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GOP To Activate Nuclear Option If Judge Gorsuch Is Filibustered; News On Undisclosed Speaking Fees Paid To Michael Flynn; America's Drug Epidemic; FOX Settles Sexual Harassment Claims Against Bill O'Reilly; 254 People Killed In Colombia Mudslide; Severe Storm Threat In The U.S.; Bob Dylan Received Nobel Prize In Private A Ceremony Aired 6-7a
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[06:00:09] VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: New information that we're learning about the former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. What will certainly be scrutinized are three different sources of income that Flynn received from Russian sources.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Showdown is brewing on Capitol Hill over President Trump's Supreme Court nominee.
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SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The filibuster has never been the norm.
MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We will overcome the obstructionist and the United States Senate will confirm Judge Neil Gorsuch.
JEFF IMMELT, CEO, GENERAL ELECTRIC: By and large, CEOs should keep their head down and do the work. And I think we're cowards if we don't take a position occasionally on those things that are really consistent with what our mission is.
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PAUL: The Nobel Prize Committee has absolutely been looking for Bob Dylan.
PAUL: Well, good morning. We are so grateful to see you on this Sunday morning. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: Starting with some good music, I'm Victor Blackwell.
Well, the Trump administration is gearing up for a really crucial week that could bring a big win. That's if Judge Neil Gorsuch gets confirmed to the Supreme Court.
PAUL: Despite outspoken opposition from the democrats, Vice President Mike Pence says the, quote, "obstructionists won't be able to stand in the way." BLACKWELL: Meanwhile, more revelations about the administration's
ties to Russia potentially are making it hard to move on. We have new details this morning about previously undisclosed speaking fees paid to the former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
PAUL: And all this is the deadline for a budget deal looms. If you take that recess into account, Congress has just seven working days to reach an agreement before the government runs out of money at the end of the month.
New White House financial disclosure forms raising more questions this morning about Michael Flynn's alleged ties to Russia.
BLACKWELL: The former National Security Adviser is now confirming he received thousands of dollars in speaking fees from three Russian companies. Our Ryan Nobles reviewed the documents and he has this for us.
RYAN NOBLES, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The White House has just released financial disclosure forms from former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. The forms tell us quite a bit about where Flynn made his money in 2016. He took in a total of $1.5 million. And he also had three different income sources from speeches. Among them, the television network RT which is a state-run television network, also a cargo company and cyber security firm. Now, each one of these speeches paid Flynn at least $5,000, that's the minimum necessary to be reported on these forms. But we know through house democrats that the speech that he gave to RT allowed Flynn to make as much as $45,000. Now, what's interesting about these three expenditures is that Flynn did not report these income sources on his February form but then added them on his March form. Now, the RT speech in particular is something that we've known about for some time but we originally been told that the income from this speech was given through a speaker's bureau, not from RT directly. This updated financial disclosure form shows that the speech was, indeed, paid for by RT specifically. Now, you can bet that this information is going to become a big issue for democrats in particular as they continue to investigate the Trump campaign's connection to the Russian government as the Russian government's attempts to intervene in the American election. Ryan Nobles, CNN, Washington.
BLACKWELL: General Flynn's lawyer released this statement to CNN. I'm going to read it here.
"General Flynn had only just begun the financial disclosure filing process at the time he left the White House. He filed a draft form explicitly listing his speaker's bureau contract and expected to engage in the usual process of consultations with the White House to office - White House Counsel's Office and Office of Government Ethics regarding what he has expected to disclose. That process was suspended however after he resigned. When the White House asked him this week to complete the process and to itemize the specific speaking events, he did so.
PAUL: Well, Russia is now blasting the Pentagon condemning U.S. military action in Iraq. CNN International Correspondent Paula Newton live for us in Russia. Paula, I know this has to do with the loss of civilian casualties in the U.S. bombing. Some pretty biting bold verbiage though from Russia this morning toward the U.S.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Christi. You can say that again. And obviously, it comes within the context that - you know, we were just talking about in terms of those investigations that go on in Capitol Hill. I mean, Christi, you can expect to hear this escalation in language throughout the weeks and months to come.
[06:04:54] Specifically though, as you point out, this was quite biting. This was of course about the U.S.-led coalition and its airstrikes in both Iraq and Syria. And the Defense Ministry basically saying that the explanations for the loss of life on the part of the U.S. was absurd. I want to show you something else. I'll just put it up here. What are - this is from the Russian defense ministry now, a statement. What are the motives of the American command putting the veil of confidentiality and keeping secret the crimes of terrorists from the international community?
What they're getting at there, Christi, is basically alleging that the U.S. is in some way complicit with ISIS in the way it conducts those air strikes on the ground in both Iraq and Syria. This time, most specifically pointing to the loss of life, very controversial there in Mosul. You know, Christi, this follows up on very stern comments from both Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and of course Secretary of Defense Mr. Mattis both saying that Russia' actions have been aggressive and that there wouldn't expect to be a normalization of policy in any way shape reform or dialogue until Russia backs off on what it calls its aggressive actions. You can expect to hear a lot more of this from Moscow, Christi.
PAUL: No doubt. Paula Newton, thank you so much for breaking it down for us.
BLACKWELL: Well, let's talk now with Gabby Morrongiello, a White House Correspondent with the Washington Examiner and CNN Contributor Julian Zelizer, who's also a Historian and Professor at Princeton University. Good morning!
Male: Thank you.
Female: Good morning!
BLACKWELL: So let's start with former NSA Michael Flynn here and this - what could be delayed at best disclosure now of payments from RT. These are missions, Julian, do not have been in a vacuum. Of course, the retroactive filing as a foreign agent, misleading the administration about his communication with the Russian Ambassador. What more do these disclosures now tell us about potentially this relationship with Russia and General Flynn?
JULIAN ZELIZER, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, they don't tell us any more details. They do tell us that the administration officials have not been totally forthcoming in the extent of the contacts and the speeches and the communication that existed. I don't think this revelation gets us any closer to whether there was collusion over the 2016 campaign, but it does go against the famous lesson in American politics meaning that the cover-up often is the worst part of the political crime. And I think that is the question this kind of revelation raise.
BLACKWELL: Gabby, does this tell us more about the vetting or lack thereof done by transition official, campaign officials as they moved into the White House?
GABBY MORRONGIELLO, THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. I - absolutely does. And I think it's important to clarify, first, that a lot of the top senior White House officials, including the Press Secretary Sean Spicer, haven't said whether or not they were aware of many of these ties that Mike Flynn had prior to him entering the White House. It was just as much a surprise to them to see that he was registered as a foreign agent as it was to the press corps last month when we figured that out. As it was, when we found out that he had significant ties to and had been working for a Turkish-owned company. And so, I think that it is definitely a glare - there was a glaring lack of vetting that took place with General Flynn and with others in this administration, and those who were involved in the campaign like Paul Manafort. I mean, Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort have come up again and again over their Russia - connections to Russia and either things that likely would have come up if the vetting had been more thorough.
BLACLWELL: Yes. You know, Julian, let me bring you back here because when Gabby just mentioned Paul Manafort, and mentioned them - Sean Spicer. I want to play for you, this was March 22nd during the White House briefing there, questions to Sean Spicer about what the White House knew and comparing at that time to the discovery that Mike Flynn - rather that Paul Manafort had received money from a Russian billionaire. But here is what he said about Mike Flynn and disclosure at that time.
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SPICER: He filled out forms under the penalty of law. I don't know what was on his forms or what not on his forms. Remember, what the President let him go for was not being truthful to the Vice President, not necessarily for what was on a form which I do not know what he filled out or did not fill out. If somebody fills out a form here, an SF86 security clearance form or another employment document and lies on that form or misleads, then they're going to face the penalty of law on that.
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BLACKWELL: Any expectation that there are further - I mean, he's already been fired, but any further consequences for General Flynn?
ZELIZER: Well, look, at this point, I couldn't say that there will be. I think - look there's two different issues. One is the disclosures and one is the sloppiness in the vetting.
BLACKWELL: Yes. ZELIZER: And it's unclear whether anyone is going to do anything about this new revelation. He has been fired at this point. And the second is the big issue. And the big issue is the investigation into the collusion and this is just one more piece of evidence that will be part of the discussions that there were more extensive interactions between Trump officials and Russian organization and Russian government officials than we knew. And I think at this point, it's the latter where the biggest damage will happen.
[06:10:11] BLACKWELL: Gabby, let's turn to Congress. And they're going to have to send a funding bill to the President to sign just as he rounds out his first 100 days in office. And there's a strong likelihood they're going to need some democratic support to get that bill to the President. I want you to listen to democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and talking about one specific item that democrats will not support. Let's listen.
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NANCY PELOSI, UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MINORITY LEADER: The issue is spending billions and billions of dollars on 2,000 mile wall or something like that. It's immoral and decent and ineffective and so ridiculous. So but - beyond that, we have to see the substance of what is in the bill. But it's always been a negotiation and they have never been able to pass one without democratic votes.
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BLACKWELL: All right. So democrats are not going to be on board for funding the wall. Healthcare didn't get a vote. The travel ban 1 and 2 ensnarled in the courts. I mean, what's the potential that the President would trade off funding for this wall in this bill or that it would even get that far?
MORRONGIELLO: Well, I don't think that President Trump, right now, with the state that his administration is in, wants to see a government shutdown occur. That is probably the last thing that his administration wants in term of optics right now, especially with all of these questions going on about Russia, the failure of the healthcare bill, all of the complications that they'll face going into tax reform and infrastructure. So I think this might be an area where he actually is willing to make some concessions in order to win democratic support to avoid that. It doesn't seem like that's the case. He has spoken directly to House Speaker Paul Ryan, as confirmed by the White House last week, about the government funding bill and it seems like there is something that, you know, ongoing discussions are occurring and a government shutdown is the last thing he wants to see happen.
BLACKWELL: Very quickly Julian, what's the potential that there really is a democratic support up for grabs at all for anything the President proposes?
ZELIZER: I don't think there's much support. I think the only place is - a little support is with Gorsuch. We already know two democrats have supported that. But on the spending, I think democrats are going to hold firm. You have a republican President right now who is on the defense so many democrats are saying, why should we concede to anything at this point? Let the republicans struggle, let the republicans fight among each other and possibly let the republicans implode.
BLACKWELL: All right. Julian Zelizer and Gabby Morrongiello, thank you both.
MORRONGIELLO: Thank you.
ZELIZER: Thank you.
PAUL: General Electric CEO is talking about President Trump. Jeff Immelt says, "he tries to stay out of politics, but he thinks it's necessary to stand up against some of Trump's policies." Listen to what he told CNN's Fareed Zakaria regarding the President's rollback of environmental regulations.
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FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN FAREED ZAKARIA GPS HOST: You have done something unusual in the last couple of months though. You have twice, to your employees, come out essentially in opposition to something the administration did on the travel ban, you expressed concerns and on climate change policies, you expressed concerns in memo where you essentially disagreed with the Trump administration. Talk about how crucial it was that the U.S. continue to be a world leader on climate change. Why did you feel the need to do this?
IMMELT: You know, Fareed, I say, by and large, CEOs should kind of keep their head down and do their work. And in many ways, I agree exactly with what President Trump is doing. But we also are stewards for companies, we're stewards for brands, we're stewards for people. On the travel ban, look, we have a lot of people that live in the middle east. We have a lot of people that travel. It's my duty to stand up for them. Clearly, you want the country to be safe. But it's also my duty to kind of stand up on their behalf. On climate, look, for 12 years we have been investing an initiative called Ecomagination which is really talked about driving energy efficiency in everything we do and we have been doing it consistently. We've booked over $300 billion of revenue in that initiative last 12 years. I just think it's insincere to not standup for those things that you believe in. so, I don't think it's something we should do every day but I do think we're also stewards of our companies. We're representatives of the people that work with us. And I think we are cowards if we don't take a position occasionally on those things that are really consistent with what our mission is and where our people stand.
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PAUL: Hey, don't forget. You can watch that full interview this morning on Fareed Zakaria GPS, it's at 10:00 a.m. Eastern right here on CNN of course.
BLACKWELL: Well the Senate is gearing up for the final battle over Trump's Supreme Court pick next week. The ten democrats who could change the court and the future of Supreme Court Nominee.
PAUL: Also, why some businesses here in the U.S. are now hiring refuges as opposed to some Americans.
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[06:15:10] CARY QUIGLEY, STERLING TECHNOLOGIES INC.: The immigrant workforce that's here has filled a void that we had, that we were unable to fill with our local labor pool that we were drawing from.
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BLACKWELL: Also, a mudslide kills more than 200 people in Colombia. We'll take it to the desperate search happening right now to find hundreds who are still missing.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fired up? Are you ready to go? Are you fired up? Are you ready to go?
BLACKWELL: Demonstrators here in New York and in across the country fired up in protest of President Trump's Supreme Court pick Neil Gorsuch. Now, this is happening as the Senate battle over his nomination heats up this week. Tomorrow, the Senate Judiciary Committee is set to vote on Gorsuch's confirmation. If it's - if it's clear there, the final vote moves to the Senate floor that's scheduled for Friday.
PAUL: The republicans are hoping to reach that magic number 60, of course. In order to do so, they need at least eight democrats on board. Right now, they just have two. But that is two who are pledging to vote yes. Vice President Mike Pence at Ohio, yesterday, assured Americans they don't have to worry about it, though.
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[06:20:17] PENCE: For the sake of our Supreme Court, for the sake of our country, for the sake of our constitution, we will overcome the obstructionists and the United States Senate will confirm Judge Neil Gorsuch one way or the another.
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PAUL: CNN Legal Analyst and Criminal Defense Attorney Joey Jackson. So Joey, we know that he may utilize the nuclear option in order to reach the number of votes that they have to reach in order to make this go through. But by using the nuclear option, does that at all diminish the credibility of the vote?
JOEY JACKSON, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Good morning Christi. I think it diminishes the credibility of the institution, if i could go as far to say that. I think, you know, ultimately, what does everyone want? You want an institution in Washington that is working cooperatively, that's working together for the good of, remember, the people. And so when you go and - you know, I should say this also. To the victors who does go to spoils, in the event you win and you're the ruling party, and as your - you know, the graphic just showed, certainly there's a 52-48 majority, republican versus democrat in the Senate. But you know, rules are what they are. Precedent in the Senate is what it is. And if you look back at Obama and you look at, you know, Kagan, for example, and Sonia Sotomayor, you know, this are nominees that were able to gain super majorities. You know, 68 for Sotomayor votes and 63 for Kagan. And so, certainly you would want to see that continue. But I think it's so polarized now that I think the republicans have decided that they are going to do what they must in order to get him moved forward and confirmed. So when you talk about credibility, Christi, yes, I think it diminishes the credibility of the institution when you simply change the rules to get your way but, at the same time, you know, if there's gridlock, batters need to move forward and I guess what the republicans have considered and deciding. You know what? He's going to get on no matter what.
PAUL: OK. So Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia of course and Heidi Heitkamp, North Dakota. They are the two dems who have committed a yes vote for this. And they're also up for re-election in 2018 and says that they did vote for Trump. Despite that, they've said we will vote for him. What are the chances that will entice any other democrats to follow suit?
JACKSON: You know, Christi, I think it's about politics. I mean, there's the legal issues and then there's the political issues. From a legal perspective, you know, I think that you're going to see a confirmation. And whether that means that there's only 51 senators as that takes to do it, of course, they have more votes than that as you just mentioned with the two democrats. You know, it gets them up to the 54. But I think from a political perspective, you know, it's a different issue. And that's to your question. I mean, the reality is that whether other democrats are enticed to vote for the nominee because they're up for re-election next year and they're in states that were carried by, you know, the President now, Donald Trump, yes, it could entice them. But people generally, you know, they could be pretty independent and they could decide that - you know, for many reasons. And you know, in talking about this, we should also mention a lot of it relates to Merrick Garland and how he was treated. Right? You remember Obama attempting to fill that vacancy left by Antonin Scalia who unfortunately passed last year. And he wasn't given the consideration. So in light of that, you see the democrats saying well, look at what you did to our nominee. This is what we are going to do to yours. So, could others follow suit and because these two senators have decided to vote do the same? Yes, they could but, at the same time, they could say you know what? We are opting out and we believe, based upon how you treated our nominee in the past and based upon general principles, we are not going to move forward because many do believe that Gorsuch was evasive during the Supreme Court confirmation hearings.
PAUL: OK. Real quickly because I only a couple of seconds. But I mean, there are a lot of people though that say, look, this guy is - he's worth it to vote for him. You know, I mean, he's totally -
JACKSON: The real deal.
PAUL: - got - yes, I mean, he's got everything that you need essentially. Do you take a risk because if he doesn't get it, who else are you going to bring up next? And that was the same argument that was made with Merrick Garland. Are we going to see a nominee appointed do you think at some point soon?
JACKSON: I think you'll see the nominee appointed. And I also think, you know, look, as we talked about before, if you're the ruling party, the President has a right to appoint a republican - I guess if you will, Supreme Court Nominee. That is that person who favors the values that would relate in the ideology that would relate to conservatism. The democrats can do likewise. But ultimately, what you'd like to see is a mainstream person who can garnish support from both sides.
JACKSON: And so you look at it and you say, in the event that you do block Gorsuch, do you get somebody worse than him moving forward? Or do you get somebody potentially who could be better? And just briefly, Chris, you remember, we have a graying Supreme Court.
[06:25:12] PAUL: We do. Yes.
JACKSON: You look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg, right? You look at other members of the court, they're getting up there and age. And so, what can we be talking about in the years ahead?
JACKSON: Trump may very well be appointing other justice to come.
PAUL: A lot of politics at play (INAUDIBLE). Joey Jackson, thank you so much.
JACKSON: Thank you Christi.
BLACKWELL: One of Judge Gorsuch' former law clerk says, his record as being warped by the political fights surrounding him. I spoke with Teresa Warden earlier. Watch.
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BLACKWELL: Let me refuse something we're getting from a democratic senator who has released this weekend that she will not be voting to confirm Judge Gorsuch. This is from Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill. And she released a statement saying in part, I'll read just a sentence or two. "I cannot support Judge Gorsuch because a study of his opinions reveal a rigid ideology that always puts the little guy under the boot of corporations. He is evasive but his body of work isn't. You say to that what?
TERESA WARDEN, JUDGE GORSUCH FORMER CLERK: I would say take another look at the record. Judge Gorsuch as a Tenth Circuit Judge sits with two other judges on a three judge panel. So all of the cases that he's deciding, he sitting with two other judges. Many of those judges were appointed by democratic presidents, many were appointed by republican presidents. He was in the majority meaning - you know, 2 out of 3 agreed, 98 percent of the time when he voted and there were - I believe 97 percent of the time those opinions were unanimous. So Judge Gorsuch is extreme and needs the entire 10th Circuit as well
BLACKWELL: He is at the center of this discussion over the potential for republicans to use the nuclear option saying that that will take just 51 votes to break a filibuster instead of 60 on a nominee to the court. Based on what you know about his record, are you surprised by his record and this judge coming to the center of this fight?
WARDEN: I am surprised. You know, I am a democrat. I can't claim to be any sort of political expert. So, you know, I can't comment on exactly what's going on but I am surprised to see Judge Gorsuch portrayed as extremist or ideological because I know him to be so fair minded, so independent. He really respects the judicial branch and the role that it plays in our government. And he sees that role as being limited. And that's to interpret the law.
BLACKWELL: All right. Theresa Warden, thanks so much for your perspective.
WARDEN: Thanks for having me
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PAUL: When we come back, more evidence this morning of just how dire America's drug crisis is. The U.S. businesses hiring refuges over Americans because Americans are failing drug tests.
PAUL: It's always good to see you on a Sunday morning. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good morning to you.
PAUL: You know, this week there is a House hearing on federal respond to the opioid abuse crisis. Opioid of course is a gateway drug to heroin.
BLACKWELL: A new study reveals there is a spike in heroin use among young white men with lower education and incomes and that's why in Pennsylvania business owners there say they prefer to hire refugees with no drug record.
CNN's Dan Lieberman has the story.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You want it right here? Where did Adam go? This is Ali. Ali, he's from Syria.
DAN LIEBERMAN, CNN DIGITAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Hi. How are you? Salaam -- salaam alaikum.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): Sterling Technologies in Erie, Pennsylvania, is an American company that needs workers, but has had trouble filling the jobs because local residents are failing drug tests.
CARY QUIGLEY, STERLING TECHNOLOGIES INC.: I would say we've probably had 20 percent every time we run a random test, 20 percent of the people are failing.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): That's pretty high.
QUIGLEY: Yes, it's pretty high. We're seeing positive tests anywhere from marijuana to amphetamines, right all the way through crystal meth and heroin.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): And it's not just here. The percent of employees in the U.S. testing positive for drugs has increased steadily over the last three years, reaching the highest level in a decade.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): So how many -- how many people here are refugees?
QUIGLEY: Almost everybody that you're seeing here.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): At Sterling, refugees have become a hiring solution to the drug problem.
QUIGLEY: The immigrant workforce that's here has filled a void that we had, that we were unable to fill with our local labor pool that we were drawing from.
LIEBERMAN: It's a dynamic that can be seen in many parts of the country, from upstate New York, to Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky. But some companies that work with refugees in these places don't want to talk about it.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): They don't want to admit that there is a problem when it comes to drug testing and refugees are filling that void.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): With President Trump's executive order putting a temporary ban on refugees and so much talk about the lack of jobs in the rust belt, businesses are in a tough spot, especially when they're in need of drug-free workers like Talib Asimel (ph), a refugee from Syria, who arrived to Erie, Pennsylvania, last summer. Within three months, he got a job at the factory.
TALIB ASIMEL, REFUGEE WORKER (through translator): In our lives, we don't have drugs. We don't even know what they look like or how to use them. Alcohol is the same. We don't drink it. I'm 45 years old, and I haven't drunk alcohol my entire life, not even once.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): In terms of business, how important are refugees to a city like Erie? DYLANNA JACKSON, USCRI: I think they're extremely important. I mean
they're the one growing group in this city. You know, it's a city that's been on decline with their population. So it's the only growing group.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): The refugees in Erie have arrived to a city struggling economically and dealing with a drug epidemic.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you like to be a teacher again in America?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The reality is when business owners are telling you that they can't find native residents who will do these jobs or they can't find enough people in the community to pass a drug test, what are they to do?
They need to seek out employees somewhere. And for now immigrants are a really good source of that labor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's from Cuba. And that man's from Syria, United States, Indonesia. Vietnam, five countries in this one room right here, yes.
LIEBERMAN: In Louisville, Kentucky, nearly 6,000 refugees have arrived in the last five years, helping companies fill jobs.
JAMIE RICHARDSON, WHITE CASTLE: When we work with, for instance, Kentucky Refugee Ministries, we haven't had any troubles at all with drug testing.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): So refugees really are filling that gap for you?
RICHARDSON: Yes. In this instance there were refugees who were available, who were ready to contribute, and we were thrilled to be able to give them that opportunity.
ANTIGONA MEHANI, KENTUCKY REFUGEE MINISTRIES: What size? Can you check what size you have? We are going to get you some shoes, OK?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Thank you.
MEHANI: OK. Good luck tomorrow.
Send us as many as you can. I hear this every single day, whether it's a small local restaurant, coffee shop, to Amazon. You know, we get flyers. We get e-mails, phone calls, we need people.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What do you remember about work shift?
MEHANI: We usually get someone employed within three days. We've had someone start within one day. That's how fast refugees are able to get employed. So the refugees are not taking the jobs. The refugees are filling the gaps.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): We spoke with locals about the struggle to find jobs because of drugs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now heroin and meth is one of the biggest problems.
LIEBERMAN: Recently in Louisville, there were 151 overdose calls in just four days and methamphetamine use is so high here, the number of people testing positive for job drug tests is 47 percent higher than the national average.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I did crack cocaine and heroin. After trying to get jobs and lose jobs, getting a job and lose a job, I said, might as well not try because I'm pretty sure people want to keep their jobs, it's just not knowing how to stop.
LIEBERMAN: In Erie, Pennsylvania, we hear similar stories.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm 36, and my drug of choice was heroin.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): What kind of jobs were you looking for in Erie that you couldn't get?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like retail. Either like small corner stores, any stores like that, they don't give -- someone like me, they wouldn't give me the opportunity. You know, they just see my background and that's all they see. They don't see me as a person.
LIEBERMAN: I mean what do you think of the fact that for these employers they've had to go to new workers because of the drug problem?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I understand completely. I mean those refugees, they come here with the American dream in their mind. You know, they come to work. Come to build their life. You know, they obviously work hard compared to a drug addicted individual that just scrapes by, does the bare minimum to get by every day. So I completely understand the business owners.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know that refugees need an opportunity when they come here and employers give them the opportunity. But people like us that live here also need an opportunity. And I'm not saying they don't deserve it. But we deserve it as well.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit American workers and American families.
LIEBERMAN: When you hear that our president wants to ban refugees, what goes through your mind, especially from a business perspective?
QUIGLEY: OK, great question. I knew eventually you were going to get to that question. Twenty-five percent of our workforce are either refugees or immigrants. Without them, once again, there are probably costs that we would have incurred that would have made us non- profitable. So there certainly is an impact to that.
LIEBERMAN (voice-over): Sterling Technologies' senior management voted for President Trump and hoped to grow their business under his administration.
QUIGLEY: Do I want to see all of my people deported? Absolutely not. They're a part of this company. They have helped build this company. We can't grow without people that want to do the work.
LIEBERMAN (on camera): What can be done about it?
QUIGLEY: People need to get off drugs. It's something that in our area of the country it's really bad. Drugs are a serious problem. We're going to continue to test. But, if anything, we're going to make it more stringent. A workforce that's not doing drugs is the workforce that we want.
PAUL: Well, FOX anchor Bill O'Reilly is making some headlines. New revelations from "The New York Times" on the millions of dollars he paid women after harassment charges.
BLACKWELL: Bob Dylan has finally accepted his Nobel Prize for literature five months after it was awarded. We'll tell you why we don't have a picture of him receiving that medal.
BLACKWELL: We know the story about Bill O'Reilly. "New York Times" is reporting that the FOX News anchor and the company paid about $13 million to women who complained of sexual harassment and verbal abuse.
PAUL: Brian Stelter, CNN's senior media correspondent and host of "RELIABLE SOURCES" has been checking this out today. What are you learning this morning, Brian?
BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. Now this "New York Times" story on the top of the front page this morning.
It is an explosive story. It had been in the works for months. And it comes you think back about nine months to last summer when FOX News was rocked by the resignation of Roger Ailes, the long time founding CEO and chairman of the channel. That resignation was prompted by a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment by ex-anchor Gretchen Carlson.
Remember after Carlson came forward, other women also said they had been harassed by Ailes. Ailes stepped aside last September. So all of that happened nine months ago now you see FOX's biggest star, Bill O'Reilly, back in the news, back in the headlines in the worst way possible.
There was a lawsuit -- there was a -- there was a settlement in a case involving O'Reilly many years ago. Now "The New York Times" says it has actually been five different cases of either sexual or verbal harassment alleged by women, sometimes coworkers of O'Reilly and that there were secret settlements in these cases. As you said totaling $13 million over the years. Here is what FOX's parent company says about this. Says O'Reilly strongly denies the allegations. He says there are no merit to the allegations. Then the statement went on to say, "FOX takes matter of workplace behavior very seriously.
While he denies the merits of these claims, Mr. O'Reilly has resolved those he has regarded as his personal responsibility. Mr. O'Reilly is fully committed to supporting our efforts to improve the environment for all of our employees at FOX News."
I think what is notable here, Victor and Christi, O'Reilly is saying in a statement on his website that this is -- this is something that happens to famous people. People who are in the public eye who are maybe political figures or celebrities. There is attempt -- there are attempts to make money off those people, to make baseless charges and then try to get settlements.
So he is saying he settled these matters privately partly to keep them out of the public eye so his children would not hear about these cases. As I said, he is denying the allegations but the "Times" says this does seem to be a pattern of behavior and we know there is at least one other woman that has not reached a settlement, Wendy Walsh. She's holding a press conference tomorrow, on Monday. So this is not something that is going away for O'Reilly right away.
PAUL: If they had paid out $13 million though and of obviously -- that is a lot of money and they -- they are still standing by him, it says a lot about what they think of him, what -- you know, how FOX values him.
STELTER: I think you might put O'Reilly in the same kind of category that you would put an NFL star or an NBA star. You know, someone who -- or a huge hit musician. You know, someone who is, yes, he is a TV news host who hosts an opinion show but he is really a massive celebrity, a profit machine. In this case not for a football team or for a -- or for a label, but for a cable news channel.
O'Reilly, the biggest star on cable news, you know, for his conservative commentary. He has many millions of viewers who tune in specifically for him. And as a result, FOX makes tens -- actually hundred millions of dollars of profits thanks to his show over the years. So he is a very valuable asset for FOX News. You could say he's probably the biggest single most valuable asset for the channel and makes this really implicated for FOX, for its parent company, 21st Century FOX.
The network is essentially saying, hey, O'Reilly says these claims are not true and most of the settlements were done personally -- you know, at least one was done personally he paid himself in one of these cases. And, you know, the network, apparently, recently renewed his contract with the knowledge of this "The New York Times" story was in the works.
PAUL: All right. Brian Stelter, thank you very much. STELTER: Thanks.
BLACKWELL: There is a state of emergency in Colombia as rescuers trying to find more than 200 people missing in a massive mudslide that has already killed at least 250.
PAUL: Also, where to watch for tornadoes? Yes, severe wind, even baseball-sized hail is expected today. Allison Chinchar, what is going on?
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, we already have a tornado watch out right now for portions of Texas but that threat is going to continue to push east. We'll talk about exactly where, coming up.
PAUL: Well, this morning, look at these people just digging through acres of mud, trying to find the people they love. This is in Colombia. More than 254 people were killed yesterday when that mudslide swept away dozens of homes.
BLACKWELL: More than 400 others were hurt. Now, the mud came suddenly after heavy rains caused three rivers to overflow. Roads and bridges there, they were destroyed. And authorities are still trying to account for more than 200 people who are missing. 300 families are now without a home. Colombia's president has declared a state of emergency.
PAUL: Here in the U.S., more than 30 million people in seven states at risk for severe weather today.
BLACKWELL: They could see tornado, damaging winds, even baseball- sized hail.
PAUL: Oh, gosh.
BLACKWELL: Imagine that.
BLACKWELL: CNN's Allison Chinchar is joining us now with the latest on where the worst of the weather could hit -- Allison.
CHINCHAR: That's right -- yes. So, let's take a look because this is going to be a multiday impact.
Now, here is where we have the threat area for today. You can see really that red area, that's going to be your target, your bull's eye spot for today. That really anybody in the color shaded areas has a potential for very damaging winds, large hail, yes. We are talking in excess of baseball. Which means it could be even larger than that. Say, the size of softballs and even CDs or DVDs.
You could have hail that size. We had it just barely below that yesterday. And then also very likely to have tornadoes out of that threat for today. So keep that in mind.
But it's also tomorrow. Notice tomorrow, the threat is still there. It just pushes a little farther to the east. The same threats will still be there, though. We're talking the damaging winds also the potential for very large hail and the tornadoes.
Now here is a look at the time line for this. As it continues to go forward, a lot of stuff is really going to begin to ramp back up through the day, really starting to impact Dallas and Shreveport as we get into the evening hours and then beginning to progress a little bit to farther to the east too.
The thing you have to keep in mind is this is the time of year we really start to see a lot of these peak numbers coming back in. Look at March. Notice how Texas is really the only spot that stands out. But then you get into April. Look at all of the other states that really start to come into play, especially places like Illinois, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, and also into Oklahoma.
And, Victor, Christi, a lot of those states are going to be the ones that we are concerned about for both today and also into tomorrow.
BLACKWELL: All right. Thanks for watching it for us, Allison Chinchar. Thank you so much.
PAUL: Well, new this morning, police have charged a 14-year-old boy in the alleged gang rape of a teen girl that had been streamed on Facebook live. The Chicago girl was reported missing last month after she didn't come home from the store. Her mother went to police after she saw the Facebook broadcast. Police say at least 40 people were watching that live stream and none of them reported it.
BLACKWELL: Well, three months after he skipped the official ceremony, Bob Dylan has accepted his Nobel Prize for literature.
PAUL: Well, five months after a surprise announcement and three months after the formal award ceremony that he said he was too busy to go to, Bob Dylan has quietly accepted his Nobel Prize for literature in a private ceremony in Sweden.
BLACKWELL: Why now is the question. Well, he was already in Stockholm to perform this weekend so he said, while I'm here, let's just do it.
There were no cameras allowed at the ceremony. Dylan did not speak to the media. He is the first singer/songwriter to be awarded the Nobel Prize. The Swedish Academy said that he -- quoted -- "created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition."
PAUL: No doubt about it. And thank you so much for being with us. Don't go anywhere.
BLACKWELL: We've got more ahead of the next hour of your NEW DAY and that starts right now.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New information that we are learning about the former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
What will certainly be scrutinized are three different sources of income that Flynn received from Russian sources.