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MAUREEN WALGREN, MOTHER: My husband and I -- we never got a note.

ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST (voice-over): As teen suicide plays front and center on the hit show "13 Reasons Why," a devastating case plays out in

Illinois.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was, like, Wait, wait. I said this is -- my head is spinning right now!

BANFIELD: Crushing news as parents learn their 16-year-old son killed himself after a meeting at the school.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it scared him pretty good.

BANFIELD: Now Mom and Dad are suing, claiming both the school and police scared him to death.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When this fine young man thought his life was over, he went and killed himself.

SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: Hello?

BANFIELD: The terrified voice of America`s sweetheart, Sandra Bullock.

BULLOCK: Someone has broken into my house. I`m hiding in the closet.

BANFIELD: On the phone with 911 as a stalker breaks into her home.

BULLOCK: I think it was a man.

BANFIELD: But will the man who crept through her hallway in the middle of the night do any time behind bars?

BULLOCK: I`m in my closet. I have a safe door in my bedroom, and I`ve locked it and I`m locked in the closet right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that`s how deviant those folks really are.

BANFIELD: Sheriff Grady Judd (ph) exposing 39 mug shots, all caught in an undercover sex sting..

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said on line they thought it was a setup. They still showed up.

BANFIELD: Nineteen busted for attempting sex with kids!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re so focused on trying to find children, your children, they`ll disregard their common sense.

BANFIELD: The sheriff joins me live to talk predators and how to catch them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are deviants and they`re criminals, and they`re after your children.

BANFIELD: Ever notice how big those boxes of candy are getting? Ever notice how there`s not quite as much candy inside as you thought? Now a

man is suing Hershey, saying it`s gypping its customers, underfilling boxes and ripping people off. And he wants you to get your money back.

Rampant racism in a Walmart aisle, insulting an American citizen from Mexico and hurling an "N" bomb at a woman defending her. Guess who can

kiss her invitation to Walmart good-bye?

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BANFIELD: Hello, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. This is PRIMETIME JUSTICE.

There are more than 13 reasons why you should watch the runaway hit show of that same name on Netflix right now, if only to get inside the head of

teenagers today and understand what drives them to the brink. That controversial show, "13 Reasons Why," has stirred a national conversation

about teen suicide, some school systems, including my own son`s, sending letters home warning parents not to let your children watch it at least

without some guidance.

It also tackles rape and bullying and the failure of adults to recognize their kids` concerns, and it ends with the parenting suing the school after

their daughter commits suicide because the school brushed off her sex assault.

Tonight, there is a story out of Illinois that echoes many of these same themes. I want you to meet Corey Walgren, 16 years old, a hockey-playing

honor student with good grades and no disciplinary record, and his parents say he was very involved at the school. So when Corey was called to the

dean`s office, he probably wondered why. What had he done wrong?

Or maybe he knew. You see, the police suspected that Corey, a kid with no criminal history, had an X-rated recording on his phone of a consensual sex

act that he had with a teenage classmate. To top it off, there`s an allegation that he played that recording for other students to hear.

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TERRY EKL, WALGREN FAMILY ATTORNEY: ... consensual sexual relationship with a girl. They began to interrogate him and accuse him of having child

pornography on his phone.

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BANFIELD: Once inside the dean`s office, Corey was questioned about possessing child pornography. And according to the family`s attorney, he

was allegedly threatened that he could be put on the state`s sex offender registry for possessing that audio.

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EKL: They threatened him and scared him by providing him with false information without any justification, literally threatened and scared him

to the point where this fine young man thought his life was over.

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BANFIELD: One of the school`s deans called Corey`s mom and then put Corey into a nearby office to wait until she arrived. But a short time later,

school officials say, Corey disappeared, left campus on his own. His mom Maureen told "The Chicago Tribune" what the school officials told her when

she got there.

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[20:05:12]WALGREN: He looked at me and he goes, Ma`am, do we have reason to be concerned for his safety? Under normal circumstances no, but I think

you scared him pretty good. So yes, I said, I do think we have reason to be concerned for his safety.

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BANFIELD: Her worst fears were realized a short time later. Corey had left the school and walked a mile to a parking garage in downtown

Naperville. And then Corey jumped from the fifth floor.

Now his parents have filed suit against the school and the city of Naperville, upset that he was questioned without either of them being

present. They`re accusing the school and the police of scarring their son to death.

Stacy St. Clair is a reporter with "The Chicago Tribune." She has interviewed Corey`s mother, and she joins me now from Chicago. Stacy, why

is it that the parents believe that this suit could go forward, that the school somehow shares in the blame of what happened to their son?

STACY ST. CLAIR, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE" (via telephone): Well, it starts with what Illinois law says, and that`s that juveniles in Illinois, if they`re

in police custody, cannot be interrogated without their parents being notified. And the police reports are clear that Corey was interviewed by

police for 18 minutes, at least, before they tried to reach his parents.

BANFIELD: And as I understand it -- and correct me if I`m wrong -- not just interviewed by the police but by the dean, as well, for that 18

minutes. How is that any different from any of us being hauled down to the principal`s office and being asked a lot of questions before things

escalate, your parents are called and then maybe you start talking about the possibility of charges?

ST. CLAIR: Well, in this case, it was that there was a police officer there. I mean, the law is very clear in Illinois about what police

officers can and can`t do. It has to be almost a dire emergency for the parental notification not to take place. And the difference is if -- in

Illinois, if Corey felt that he couldn`t leave that room, if he didn`t have permission to just end an interview and get up and leave the dean`s office,

then he was in police custody, and that law should have been applicable.

BANFIELD: What is the school saying, if anything, understanding now with the specter of a lawsuit -- very difficult to make any kind of

communication or comment, but how is the school responding initially?

ST. CLAIR: Right. Well, the school has said from the beginning, at least to my question -- in answer to my question to them, is that Corey`s death

is a tragedy and that everyone in the high school is suffering, but that they have reviewed the procedure that took place that day and they believe

they are in compliance.

BANFIELD: Hold for a moment, if you will, Stacy. I want to bring in Terry Ekl. He is the attorney for the parents of Corey Walgren, and he joins me

from Lisle (ph), Illinois.

Terry, thank you for joining the program tonight. I think I have the same question for you. Why is it that your parties believe they could prevail

against the school, when many would say he should have been brought to the principal`s office? He should have been questioned if he had that kind of

material on his phone.

EKL: Well, first of all, when they brought Corey down to the office, he was escorted in there to the presence of a police officer and someone from

the school, and they then began to interrogate him. They were required under Illinois state law to advise his parents of that before they began

the questioning This was a criminal investigation that was being conducted.

He was also entitled, because he was not free to leave, to his Miranda warnings. They didn`t do that, as well. And to make matters even worse,

they took the telephone, they looked at it, and they knew there was no child pornography on it. At the very most, there was an audio recording of

a sex act. That is not child pornography. It is not a crime.

So what they proceeded to do, after having full knowledge that he had not committed child pornography and therefore could not be a registered sex

offender, they proceeded to threaten him with that charge and tell him the consequences could be lifelong registration as a sex offender. And this

young 16-year-old who had no prior police conduct was literally scared to death. Now...

BANFIELD: So Terry, I`m just going to jump in only because from a practical standpoint -- I understand your legal argument, but from a

practical standpoint, kids are brought into the offices of the principal, the vice principal, resource officers every day multiple times across this

country, and sometimes, those resource officers are police officers, as well.

[20:10:03]What is the difference between bringing a kid in to get to the bottom of something and what you`re claiming is a criminal investigation

requiring Miranda rights?

EKL: Well, first of all, if they`re just merely looking for infractions of school rules, minor disciplinary matters, they can bring a student in and

they can question him. If they`re conducting a criminal investigation, which is what this was, a serious criminal investigation, it`s an entirely

different situation.

BANFIELD: I guess, Mr. Ekl, how do you know that this was a criminal investigation, because as it turned out, there was no intention, as the

school has said, to actually charge him with anything, just to let him know this is serious? And when you have the kind of material on the phone that

allegedly existed, you can be a registered sex offender at age 16. You can have your life ruined.

What would be wrong with the school saying that? It`s true.

EKL: The point is that`s not what happened here. What happened here is they brought him down to the office to conduct a criminal investigation.

BANFIELD: How do you know that that`s what they did? How do you know that they weren`t just starting to find out what happened?

EKL: Because it`s in the police reports that we`ve seen. They were acknowledging that they were conducting a criminal investigation, and it

was being done by a police officer. And there`s no question but that`s what they were doing. If you`re investigating...

BANFIELD: But Terry, what would be -- what would have been the appropriate procedure for the school to do, call Corey into the office, not say a word

to him, call parents and have them arrive before letting them know what it was all about?

EKL: Absolutely. If they were going to conduct a criminal investigation, they could bring him to the office, they should have called his mother,

just like they did after they had interrogated him, given the mother the opportunity to come down there to be present. And that`s simply what

Illinois law requires, and they didn`t do it.

And even worse, even if they`re in good faith conducting this investigation because they think it`s something serious, they had the telephone. They

looked at it, and they knew he did not have child pornography on his phone.

BANFIELD: So to that question, Terry, I want you to hold for a moment because Danny Cevallos is with me, as well as Areva Martin. They`re both

extraordinarily skilled attorneys.

Danny, I want to get to the bottom of that. As a parent, I don`t want the school to call me before they have done at least the initial query of,

What`s your side of the story, young man, because if there`s a perfectly legitimate explanation for it, I expect them to do that before I`m called

down for anything like this. But Mr. Ekl says from the get-go, it was a criminal investigation. Is that true?

DANNY CEVALLOS, HLN/CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I agree. As a defense attorney, I agree with the point that the police shouldn`t classify this as

an interview. This was a criminal investigation.

But there are a number of factors that go into deciding whether or not a juvenile`s interrogation or any statements he makes are voluntary. And

counsel has to acknowledge that even in Illinois, while it`s ideal to notify the parent, the court will look at a number of factors, and it`s

possible that a juvenile can give a confession without his parents` presence. It is possible.

But here`s the catch. Even if what Terry is saying is true, even if this was a violation of his constitutional rights, it`s the proximate cause, was

it reasonable and foreseeable that violating these Miranda rights would lead to suicide? That`s where I think the case has its challenges.

BANFIELD: And Areva Martin, I want you to weigh in on this quickly, your thoughts about not only the essence of what Terry Ekl`s saying, but also

that the second step, where that child was put in a room but he of his own volition left.

AREVA MARTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, the school had an obligation. No doubt they owed a duty to this young man, and they failed this young man.

They shouldn`t have been questioning him. Eighteen minutes later, they called his mom. So what was so dire that they couldn`t wait 18 minutes

before the mom arrived to begin this questioning and this investigation?

And think this family obviously has already talked to experts. They already know that they can prove proximate causation between the scare

tactics and the abrasive kinds of allegations that were made towards him and his ultimate death. And I think the school should be held accountable

for that because they shouldn`t bring kids in and threaten then with information that could have lifelong consequences.

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MARTIN: ... particularly when they know that information is false.

BANFIELD: I think there`s a lot of information that still has to come out. Areva and Danny, want you to stand by. And also, Terry Ekl, thank you for

being on the program. This is a suit at the minimum of $5 million.

And listen, we could all be having this conversation now because a young woman might have committed suicide because of what might have been played

to other kids around the school. There could have been so many other outcomes from this. It`s very complicated, but I think this will be a

fascinating look at what happens. So again, my thanks to Terry Ekl.

[20:15:02]Actress Sandra Bullock alone, unarmed in her own home as an intruder breaks in.

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SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: Someone has broken into my house. I`m hiding in the closet.

911 OPERATOR: They`re in the house now?

BULLOCK: Yes, yes, they are.

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BANFIELD: Her stalker has his day in court but won`t be seeing a moment behind bars. What can be done to keep this man away from his idol?

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BANFIELD: Even if you haven`t seen her movies, there is a really good chance that you know Sandra Bullock. She`s America`s sweetheart, starring

in "Gravity," "Speed," "Miss Congeniality." She even won best actress for "Blind Side."

And though she does not do horror movies, she has lived one when a real- life stalker broke into her home. Sandra barricaded herself in her bedroom and dialed 911 immediately.

[20:20:08]I want you to listen to part of her phone call to that operator. You`ll have to ignore an automated voice in the background giving constant

timestamps throughout the call. Instead, pay close attention to what Bullock is telling the dispatcher.

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BULLOCK: Someone has broken into my home. I`m hiding in the closet.

911 OPERATOR: They`re in the house now?

BULLOCK: Yes, yes, they are. I just saw them walk under the attic. I have a...

911 OPERATOR: Is it a man or a woman?

BULLOCK: I think it was a man. (INAUDIBLE) I`m locked in my closet. I have a safe door in my bedroom, and I`ve locked it and I`m locked in the

closet right now.

911 OPERATOR: OK, don`t hang up on me. I`m going to be dispatching the police, OK? Don`t hang up on me.

BULLOCK: OK. And I`ll give you the gate code.

911 OPERATOR: One second, OK? You`re not going to hear me, but I haven`t hung up on you.

BULLOCK: OK.

911 OPERATOR: OK, so could you tell what the person was wearing, what color shirt and pants?

BULLOCK: All I saw was, like, a dark sweatshirt and dark pants going up the stairs to my attic. And I have a door to my bedroom that`s a safe

door, and I just hit the button and I`m hiding in the closet right now.

911 OPERATOR: Do you have any weapons? Are you armed?

BULLOCK: No, I`m not.

911 OPERATOR: OK. And are there any animals in the house?

BULLOCK: No. No, not right now, and my son`s not here, either, right now with me.

911 OPERATOR: What`s your name, ma`am?

BULLOCK: Sandra Bullock.

911 OPERATOR: All right, Sandra. I`m going to stay on the phone with you until the officers get there, OK?

BULLOCK: OK.

911 OPERATOR: I want you to let me know if you hear anything at all.

BULLOCK: I`m in my closet. I don`t think he can see anything. But I will, I promise. Oh, the doors downstairs are locked, but I heard somebody

break in so -- tell them to walk around. I heard noises, so I know that they broke in. They had to have gotten in somehow. So tell the officers

just to walk around and see where they came in. I couldn`t hear what door it was. It was just a large crack.

I hear them. I hear someone banging on the door.

911 OPERATOR: To your bedroom?

BULLOCK: Yes. I just thought it was the wind blowing one of the windows shut, and then I saw the person. So obviously, that wasn`t it.

911 OPERATOR: The officers are about two minutes out, OK?

BULLOCK: Thank you.

911 OPERATOR: OK, there`s an officer pulling up now. Do not go out there.

BULLOCK: Do what? I`m sorry. What should I...

911 OPERATOR: I said do not go out there.

BULLOCK: OK. Just have them walk -- I`ll stay right here...

911 OPERATOR: They will tell me when they`re coming in, and I will tell you, OK?

BULLOCK: And I`m up in the bedroom up the main stairs right to the left. They`ll just see a white door shut, and that`s where I am. And I`ll open -

- you tell me when to open up. I don`t know when to open. Is that them knocking on my door? I hear them. I hear them. And tell them I saw the

guy go upstairs into my attic, which is on the third floor.

911 OPERATOR: Stand by. Stand by. Suspect is in custody.

BULLOCK: Oh, they found him? It`s only one? I thought it was two people!

911 OPERATOR: Only one person.

BULLOCK: Someone`s knocking on my door. Is that them?

911 OPERATOR: Go ahead and open the door.

BULLOCK: OK, OK, OK. OK, it`s them. It`s them. It`s them.

911 OPERATOR: All right, Sandra, you can hang up. Thank you, ma`am.

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BANFIELD: Terrifying. This is the man that police arrested. Joshua Corbett was right there on the scene. He was charged with burglary and

stalking and he faced nine years behind bars. But that is not going to happen. He didn`t get that. He didn`t get any of it.

Corbett pleaded no contest to the charges, and it turns out he`s going to avoid all jail time. Instead, he`s getting just five years probation,

supervised, a 10-year protective order, cannot go near her for those 10 years, and he has to continue his treatment at a mental health facility.

Alexis Tereszcuk is a senior reporter for Radaronline.com, and she joins me from Los Angeles. I think the natural question, Alexis, why no jail time?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: That is a question that I have for the prosecutors, too. This is amazing. This is a man who stalked her. He was

found with a notebook of love letters to her. He thought he was married to her. He was calling her his wife. And then they give him no jail time at

all, 10 years protective that he has to stay way from her.

We know repeatedly women over and over again are attacked by people that are told to stay away from them. It hardly ever works. This is really a

shocking travesty of justice for poor Sandra.

BANFIELD: So I get it. I get why oftentimes, a mental illness is the reason why perhaps incarceration isn`t the answer, and instead, the five

years of supervised probation in which he has to be guaranteed to be taking his medication and tested for that.

But what about her? What if he for a few days goes off that medication? How is she to be guaranteed to feel safe again if he`s still out there?

TERESZCUK: Exactly. There`s no guarantee. This man was very clever. He -- she had a huge wall, a fence at her house with barbed wire, and he

managed to scale it. He got into her home that was very formidable, and managed to get all the way up to her bedroom. Luckily, she was so

protective that she had this safe room and immediately pressed the button and locked herself in.

[20:25:00]But there`s no protection. She`s a public person. She`s often out in the public. She has two kids. She takes them to school. She goes

to the mall. She goes to movies with them. She`s somebody that could easily be found, and so this is really worrisome for her.

BANFIELD: What did Joshua Corbett say to the police when they got there? Because he hadn`t left. He was still milling about the property.

TERESZCUK: What he was said, Oh, Sandy, I`m so sorry. Please don`t press charges. This is my wife. I want to see my wife and I need to talk to

her. And they found this notebook of his that had this letter to her, and lots of letters and lots of details about how he had been stalking her for

quite some time.

BANFIELD: Any idea how long he`d actually been there in the house? I mean, she spotted him. She -- it was a dark hallway. She heard a crash.

But how long had he actually been there?

TERESZCUK: He had been in the home -- she heard it, so he was there about 20 minutes. But the thing is that he could have been on the property for

hours and hours.

BANFIELD: I mean, it is really scary to sort of think that he`s still out there.

I want to bring in Steve Sitkoff. He`s Joshua Corbett`s attorney, and he joins me from Los Angeles. Steve, help me off the ledge here. I get it.

You are representing him and you have to do your job, but I am afraid for Sandra. Why is that wrong?

STEVE SITKOFF, STALKER`S ATTORNEY: Well, I don`t think it`s wrong for you to be afraid for her or for anybody else who confronts a stranger in their

bedroom. Who wouldn`t be scared?

But the point here is I think everybody would agree that what we want is for this to never happen again. And if you just warehouse a person with

mental health issues in prison for however long, whether it`s a year, two years, six years, it doesn`t really matter, when they get out, they`re

going to be worse off, and the public is going to be in more danger.

This way, we can treat what`s going on, and Mr. Corbett`s never going to do this again. And he`ll be a normal functioning whole human being again, and

that`s...

BANFIELD: How can you guarantee that, Steve? How can you guarantee he`ll be a normal functioning human being again?

SITKOFF: Here`s what I can guarantee you. I can guarantee you that if your warehouse him or anybody else with certain mental health issues in

prison, they are for sure not going to be a normal whole human being. You are going to necessarily cause more havoc in society.

The way mental health issues are treated in general in the criminal justice system is awful because there aren`t the resources to do it properly. And

If you`re able to treat people properly who have mental health issues, we`d have a heck of a lot less of crime (INAUDIBLE)

BANFIELD: I don`t disagree with you one iota, there, but where I do depart is if you warehouse him, as you say, Sandra`s absolutely safe.

SITKOFF: For that period, for the couple years that he might be there, yes, you`re right. But then what?

BANFIELD: But today, how can we be guaranteed he`s going to take the meds every time he needs to take the meds and that the meds are going to keep

him balanced enough not to think that Sandra -- Sandy, as he calls her -- is his wife?

SITKOFF: Well, he does not think that anymore. He is regretful and remorseful for what he did. He understands it was wrong. And you`re

right, so long as he stays on the path of being treated, everything`s going to be fine. But again, I don`t know how to say it any different, that if

you don`t treat him and you put him in prison for a couple years, then he`s out for the next 20 or 30 years, going to hurt more people.

BANFIELD: Yes. Danny, jump in here.

SITKOFF: Much more likely he`s not going to get any treatment in prison.

BANFIELD: Well, I don`t know about that. I mean, there are some -- obviously, there are some treatments available in incarceration. But what

is the answer here? I`m going to get Danny Cevallos to jump in on this for a second, Steve. What is the answer here?

CEVALLOS: I`m with defense counsel on this. The reality is this. Most of these people are going to end up back out on the streets. So what are we

going to do about them? The reality is there just isn`t good treatment in prison or jail. That`s just not where you`re going to get it. Doesn`t

matter if we`re in California or all the way out here in New York.

So we have to ask about -- we have to set up good resources for these defendants when they get out, and if they have good family connections,

then they have a chance. But the reality is if they`re on their own, they will be back in jail.

BANFIELD: And Areva, what is the guarantee that, you know, Sandra is going to be safe? I mean, I get it. It`s not a perfect system, but why does

Sandra have to take the blunt of that?

MARTIN: It`s not a perfect system, Ashleigh. You`re right. And I agree with Danny with this caveat. There are state psychiatric facilities where

someone like this man can be locked up, and at least his initial treatment can be supervised. My fear is that he`s on his own, and although probation

is going to be following him, oftentimes people with the serious mental health issues that he has don`t take their medication. So they need more

intense supervision than I think what`s going to be provided to...

BANFIELD: That`s what I thought.

MARTIN: ... to this man. So I wish he were at least put in a state psychiatric facility for a year, two years or some period of time so that

we could have a little more guarantee that he was going to take medication and that he really was stabilized.

BANFIELD: Amen. Areva, I`m going to cut it there. Thank you. Danny, I`m going to get both of you to stay. Steve Sitkoff, thank you for your

appearance tonight. Appreciate it. Alexis Tereszcuk as well. Sometimes the long arm of the law has teeth.

And justice definitely bites for this joker. I an not kidding. This is not makeup. This is Lawrence Sullivan. Arrested on gun charges in Miami this

week and if he reminds you of someone in particular like maybe Heath Ledger`s Joker, that`s exactly what he was going for when he decided to

tattoo his face so that he would resemble Ledger`s iconic character, The Joker.

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LAWRENCE SULLIVAN, MAN WHO TATTOOED HIS FACE TO LOOK LIKE "JOKER": I was really depressed and sad, drinking, doing a lot of drugs, and in a really

depressed state and point in my life, so I just tatted my whole face to forget about how I used to look, like reborn, rebirth."

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BANFIELD: In case you were wondering what he used to look like, here he is. This is Lawrence Sullivan just back in 2013. Pretty clean. At least on his

face. Police say he was caught pointing a gun at passing vehicles. By the way, that gun had bullets in it, and he has been charged with carrying a

concealed firearm. Said he couldn`t afford the permit for the carry. So there is that.

a woman in Arkansas will be banned from shopping at Walmart after a video went viral showing her hurling racial slurs against a Mexican-American

woman and then for good measure, the woman who came to rescue her, she us the "N" word on her.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Run your mouth. Go back where you came from.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Listen, I said -- I said excuse me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go back wherever you`re from.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said excuse me. Don`t be rude.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re the one that`s rude.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I said excuse me. I`m trying to buy something.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are in American. You are in America.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So what?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you serious right now?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That is none of your business. Stay out of it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t need to stay out of it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said excuse me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re loud enough for everybody to hear. Stop being ignorant.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re calling me ignorant? Oh, my goodness.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, go back to Mexico and all that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my goodness. You are very rude.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, you`re the one that`s rude.

BANFIELD: So behold Eva Hicks, that`s her in living color. She told CNN she was trying to reach some medicine. You`re hearing Eva, her voice, the

target of all of this. She was trying to reach for medicine and that`s what started all of this.

She is originally from Mexico, but she is an American citizen, and she`s lived here for more than 30 years. She said she decided to post this video

to Facebook to raise awareness. Not entirely sure of the name of that little delight on your screen but Walmart certainly had something for her.

They responded by commending the staff, because the staff asked that woman to leave, and they also stated that the company has no tolerance for the

language or actions seen on that video and that lady is banned from Walmart.

A horrifying rogue gallery of alleged pedophiles.

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GRADY JUDD, POLK COUNTY, FLORIDA SHERIFF: He likes young children, minors, because they don`t have STDs, and they are virgins.

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BANFIELD: That`s just one story and there are so many others that will curl your hair. Thirty-nine perps in all, picked up in one heck of a child porn

sex sting. Sheriff Grady Judd has had enough. He`s the guy with all the pictures and he`s got the stories. He`s live next.

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BANFIELD: There aren`t many things more sick and twisted than child pornography except maybe the people who try to act it out for real. You

know, the kiddie predators. In Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd is doing all he can to find them and drop them out for everyone to see. In the

past week alone, his department along with several other agencies ran a week-long sting where they caught 39 people in their net.

Nineteen of them were men accused of traveling to meet someone underage for sex. Another one downloaded kiddie porn. Nineteen others busted for online

prostitution. I want you to listen to what the Sheriff Judd said when he outed these suspects and why even seasoned and trained detectives were

repulsed by what they found.

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JUDD: These people are nuts. He said he liked handcuffs and blindfolds. The good news for him is, he got his handcuffs. They are put on him. We didn`t

give him a blindfold. He lives with his mother. And she drove him to the location to have sex. Maybe she qualifies for the all-American mom. So this

guy comes on board and says hey, if you`ll let me have sex with your 13- year-old daughter,

[20:40:00] I`ll bring you $100 dollars and a six-pack beer. He likes young children, minors, because they don`t have STDs, and they are virgins.

Ladies and gentlemen, what you see on the outside is the appearance of an all-American dad. What you see on the inside is a deviant.

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BANFIELD: Sheriff Grady Judd is with the Polk County Sheriff`s Office. He joins me from Winter Haven, Florida. First and foremost, slow clap for you

because that was great. That news conference was riveting. Your story telling is unbelievable. But I am still kind of getting my jaw off the

floor because of the number. Thirty-nine in one week. That seems like a hell of a haul, but is it, sheriff?

JUDD: Ashleigh, it`s a lot less than we used to catch, because many of them when the conversation first began and determined that the location was Polk

County, Florida said, I`m not going there, I know what happens when you go there. So there are child predators after our children on the internet 24/7

someplace in the United States.

That`s why we have to be careful as parents. This is the promise, our internet crimes against children task force, which is made up of sheriffs

and city police and state law enforcement from around this state, we proactively go after and catch these folks. Can you believe mama drove him

there and have sex?

BANFIELD: Okay, no, I couldn`t. When you said that -- sheriff, I was astounded. Especially when I found out he was, what, 41?

JUDD: Forty-one.

BANFIELD: What was Alan Lovejoy`s story? Forty-one, living with his mom, and she took him to the site?

JUDD: You know, he`s the kind of guy that you want to watch your child, right? He`s 41. Lives with mom. She drove him there. That`s an all-American

mom for you. And he thought he was having sex with a child, a 14-year-old, and do you know what he text her? Age doesn`t make any difference.

BANFIELD: Oh, terrible.

JUDD: Well, it makes a lot of difference to us, that`s why you`re in jail.

BANFIELD: It makes a lot of difference, yeah, to Sheriff Grady Judd. How about Todd Sebring, 49 years old, what`s his story?

JUDD: Our detectives are the best. They undercover (ph) to find him. He`s a computer programmer for a nationally recognized company. He had us locked

out of his computer. He is a soccer coach for 10 and under. He was a deacon at his church before we arrested him.

His company cooperated and in that quick gave us the codes to get in where we found the child pornography. He`s married. He`s got two young children

under 12 himself. You look at him from the outside, he looks like the all- American dad. You look at him from the inside, he`s the all-American predator.

BANFIELD: Okay. What about 19-year-old Matthew Booth?

JUDD: Matthew Booth went to the University of Central Florida in the criminal justice program. His goal in life was to be a police officer. He

wanted to be a K-9 officer. He was there on scholarship and as a result, he is trying to engage in sex with a 10-year-old child.

Did you hear me? A 10-year-old little girl who he sent his body parts, photographs of his body parts to, and told all the nasty he wanted to do.

He`s on the other side of the jail and that`s where he`s going to be.

BANFIELD: What about Eric Norris? Twenty-eight years old from Jacksonville? What`s his story?

JUDD: Eric Norris drove from the north end of the state over four hours thinking he was going to have sex with a 12-year-old child. He even bragged

to this 12-year-old child that he had molested children as young as 8 years old. By the way, that`s still under investigation by us.

BANFIELD: Oh, dear.

JUDD: He was a deviant.

BANFIELD: Real quick -- sheriff, I had been watching -- you know, Chris Hansen on "Dateline" without hold to catch a predator for years and years

and years. I see these things all the time. Everybody knows this is going on. Everybody knows there is a spiderweb of guys who are going to catch the

bad guys online and yet they still keep coming into your net. Why?

JUDD: Ashleigh, I interviewed one of these predators in a past operation after the operation was over and the detectives had talked to them. I

looked at him and said, does this look like the to catch a predator series? He said just like it. I said what are you doing here?

He said my common sense told me this was a police sting, but I fantasize every day about having sex with children and if there is that much chance

it was for real, I was willing to take the risk. And that is why he`s in jail.

BANFIELD: Sheriff, I am glad that you have the job you have

[20:45:00] and I do appreciate you doing the work you do, and I also appreciate you being on the show. Thanks, sir.

JUDD: Thank you. My promise is we`ll keep locking them up.

BANFIELD: Okay. Sheriff Grady Judd joining us from Polk County Sheriff`s Office tonight. Bigger is not always better. There is a brand-new lawsuit

out there alleging that those super sized boxes of candy are really just the big ol` rip off and I`m going to show you exactly why and exactly how

much candy is in those boxes.

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BANFIELD: Do you hear that? Little slice of heaven right here. Box of candy, 5:00 in the afternoon.

[20:50:00] It is like a godsent (ph), right? But if you notice that these things are getting huge, look at the size of these snacks. Huge, yes, but

is the amount of candy inside getting bigger? Or are just the boxes getting bigger? Because if you ever opened one of these babies up and actually

looked in, you might have asked, why is this thing half full?

And if you did ask that, you`re not alone. There is this guy in Missouri who was so mad that his favorite Whoppers and Reese`s were less than half

full. You will say this is a garbage. I`m not getting all my candy. And he actually decided to file a suit and it is a class action suit, so you, too,

my friend can get in on this one.

He said that the size of the Hershey`s candy boxes actually deceive the customers who are buying them because they give them a full sense of what

is actually inside the box. Take a look at the suit. It claims that the Reese`s Pieces boxes are only 71 percent full.

Suit claims that it`s really mostly air inside and even worse he claims that the Whopper`s box is only 59 percent filled with those delicious

awesome chocolate delightful malt balls. Hershey`s response to the suit, hey, come on now, the box has clearly stated on the outside just how much

chocolate is inside.

But when you pull it open, take a look. So is what Hershey`s says defense enough? Fairly not enough to get the lawsuit thrown out. It is actually

going ahead. Danny and Areva are back with me. Areva, I`m going to go to you first. I have to admit, I get kind of annoyed when you open these

things and it`s like wait a second, was this a defect? Can you see? It looks like half. Am I.

AREVA MARTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Come on, Ashleigh. This is just people being litigious.

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BANFIELD: The judge did not think so. The judge thought there was enough merit for this to go through. I guess I`m curious because there is this

tiny little line down here that says net weight 5 ounces. Is that supposed to be enough for us to realize it`s only 5 ounces in there, guys, the box

is just crap?

MARTIN: Look, I guess these plaintiffs have been harmed in some way. I`m struggling to find how they have been harmed, maybe they didn`t get enough

sugar, so they are claiming, you know, some kind of sugar deprivation from not having enough candy. But clearly, there is something serious about

false advertising and I guess that`s their claim in this case.

I think the candy company will have a good defense. There are often packages that we buy that are not filled to the brim and it doesn`t mean

that the company is engaging in false advertising.

BANFIELD: Okay, so, I got you on there. A lot of times they call that slack-fill, like when you buy your chips and it`s really puffed out big and

the chips are about half. That`s a packaging for -- for product protection, meaning if you don`t slack-fill them, the chips will break apart.

And in this case, I`m going to show you a package of Reese`s Pieces, it`s not a slack-fill because they put them in these (inaudible). They are not

worried about them getting broken. So, Danny, real quickly. Subway has had issues, Starbucks issues, Starkist tuna, Gorilla pasta, McCormick pepper.

A lot of these companies have been taken to task, some of them successfully, for not giving you as much as it appears you should be

getting from say the packaging or the advertising. Why is that off base?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: A lot of these haven`t been successful. Here is why. There is a certain amount of

slack-fill that is allowed, that`s the difference between the amount of product and the volume in the package. And it`s understood there is going

to be a certain amount that like you said, you need for safety of the product.

Sometimes vending machines need products to be a certain size. So the plaintiff can`t just prove that hey, there is extra space, they have to

prove that this space is so much that it goes beyond what the code of federal regulations allowed. And I volunteer to test these boxes,

personally, thank you.

BANFIELD: It`s open. I`m on a diet. Areva, I`ll hand this through the screen for you.

MARTIN: I`m on a diet, too, so I couldn`t eat them either.

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CEVALLOS: Can I drink these? That`s -- technically, you can drink these.

BANFIELD: I love this case. I love this story. I can`t wait to see how it shakes out. Pardon the fun. Areva, thank you. Danny, thank you. I want to

go to Chicago for a minute if I can. I want to get serious for a minute about Chicago because violence does not know an age limit in that city.

You might think back to last year where the city saw the highest homicide rate in nearly 20 years. This week, CNN hero was on the front lines,

absolutely determined to say kids deserve their childhood. And I want you to meet Jennifer Maddox.

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JENNIFER MADDOX, CNN HERO: We are in a state of emergency here in the city of Chicago. The shooting, the killing. Five, 6, 7-year-olds, they are

losing people that they love and care about. I`m a law enforcement officer, but I`m also a mother, and a member of this community. We can`t arrest our

way out of this.

[20:55:00] Once I saw that there was another side to policing, I thought that I could do more.

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BANFIELD: It`s Memorial Day this weekend. Please take a moment to remember the many people who have died serving in our armed forces. And thank those

who continue to serve like these young men and women seen here as they arrive in New York City for fleet week. Our special thanks to U.S. sailors,

Captain Chris DeGregory of the guided-missile cruiser, USS Monterey. His first officer, Commander Terrence Frost.

And command master, Chief Ronnie Freeman, who came together aboard the Canadian

[21:00:00] coastal defense vessel HMCS Glace Bay. I joined them today. Here is the captain, Lieutenant Commander Dale (inaudible), lieutenant

commander, we would say in Canada. It`s great to see them all together. Canada, the only country.

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