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Six People Charged Over Hillsborough Disaster; UAE Diplomat Threatens More Sanctions against Qatar; Trump to Visit Paris for Bastille Day; Former Victims Says Game Over to Traffickers; Trump Golf Courses Display Fake Magazine Cover; CNN Inside Mosul Ahead Of Final Push Against ISIS; A "Few Hundred" ISIS Fighters Remain In Mosul; Helicopter Attack On Venezuelan Supreme Court; Republicans Revising Health Care Bill After Opposition; U.S. Democrats Oppose Trump's Health Care Plan; Sophisticated Worm Infects Companies At Big Brands. Aired 3-4p ET
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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello and welcome to THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. I'm Hala Gorani.
We begin tonight with a special report out of Iraq, freeing Mosul from the grip of ISIS is closer than ever. Every day of the group's deadly reign of
terror since it took over in 2014 has been a living hell for the residents of Iraq's second-largest city. In a few minutes, I'll speak to the anti-
coalition spokesperson in Baghdad.
But first tonight, CNN senior international correspondent, Nick Payton Walsh and his team take us into the heart of the battle for control of
Mosul. Meters away from the sliver of territory that's still in the hands of the terrorists. Take a look.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The (inaudible) for ISIS you can just feel it and the normal life springing
back out of these pancake buildings yet turn one corner in Mosul towards its old city and the neolism (ph) of the very final chapter in this war
Liberation leaves little for life behind. Bodies still where they fell in the scorching heat. Senior commanders take us in in the calm before their
final storm to wipe ISIS off the map.
(on camera): And how many more days do you think that ISIS have in Mosul and in Iraq?
(voice-over): Brigadier General Asadi (ph) beckons us on to see that price. These are the last rooftops ISIS owned in Mosul. Barely hundreds
of meters to go now in the distant left. The river bank mocking where ISIS' world ends and in the dust the ruins of the (inaudible) mosque.
ISIS blew it up rather they let it be captured, a terrifying moment for the civilians held on the ground as human shields here.
(on camera): That mosque has always been a distant target for Iraqi Security Forces and now they literally are able to see from neighboring
(voice-over): He was trained. Major Salam (ph) took us into Mosul like months ago. Now he's here to see the end.
(on camera): We're at the beginning and now we're at the end of it all.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
WALSH: And so what we are seeing on the screen?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's is going over to the digital camera that we try to recount the enemy, where are they located, and we try to find -- to know
where are the civilians also. Nobody is sure exactly how many civilians there are. They located in so many different houses, many families in one
WALSH: Are you getting enough help from the Americans now because when we first met eight months ago you weren't --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: More than enough. I am so happy for all the support from Australian side, American side.
WALSH: There is the occasional stench of death here from the bodies of ISIS fighters like this one below me here left behind and also at times, an
eerie silence when the gun fire subsides.
But it's in these dense streets that you can really feel how hard the fight against ISIS has been in these final moments, but also too, how many few
meters they are away from kicking the terrorist group out of Mosul, but also out of Iraq entirely.
(voice-over): Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Mosul, Iraq.
GORANI: And joining me now is Colonel Ryan Dillon. He is the spokesperson for the Anti-ISIS Coalition and he is in Baghdad. How close are we,
Colonel, to a total liberation of Mosul?
COLONEL RYAN DILLON, SPOKESMAN FOR U.S.-LED COALITION AGAINST ISIS: That is certainly a call that will be made by the Iraqis, who have sacrificed,
who have done the fighting, and Prime Minister Bodi, we expect him to claim victory in liberation in West Mosul here closer to the days versus weeks.
We have about 2 square kilometers of area that is left inside of Mosul. There remains to be cleared.
GORANI: Two square kilometers, how many ISIS fighters in your estimation?
DILLON: We estimate there are a few hundred that remain.
GORANI: Right. And this -- these are a few hundred, but they are going to fight to the death. They booby-trapped all the alleyways in the city.
They're willing to take as many civilians down with them as possible as well. So this is a tough battle in that respect.
DILLON: It absolutely it and this is not uncommon from what we've seen already from this brutal organization. The fight in West Mosul has been
extremely difficult. It's been a very condensed and complex and urban canyon-like environment.
But the Iraqi Security Forces have progressed and have done everything that they can to get civilians to safety and the fastest way to stop the human
suffering that is continuing to go on inside of Mosul is by defeating ISIS and Iraqi Security Forces are very close to doing just that.
GORANI: And how many civilians are trapped in the old city where the fighting is going right now?
DILLON: We have heard estimates that there are about 50,000 remaining civilians that are in the rest of the ISIS-held areas inside of West Mosul
GORANI: And coalition airstrikes have killed many civilians. I mean, some organizations are calling the toll catastrophic, up to 500 in just the last
few months. Why is the coalition not able to conduct these airstrikes without killing so many civilians?
DILLON: Well, these are allegations and they are exactly that. They are allegations and allegations that we take very seriously and we look into.
However, I will say that the coalition conducts strikes only on ISIS and legitimate military targets.
This is the most precise air campaign in the history of warfare and we never ever target civilians and we will always minimize and look --
GORANI: They are more than allegations. I mean, these are numbers that the U.N. is coming up with, but also the joint task force has confirmed
that several hundred as well have been killed accidentally obviously. But there have been many, many civilian deaths. It's not certainly not as
precise as the coalition would like it to be.
DILLON: We take all these allegations and we have a very rigorous process that we look at. We interview pilots. We interview people on the ground
and a lot of these accusations and allegations and critics I do not have that.
They take single source information and they present that as an allegation and we --
GORANI: You are saying there have been no civilian deaths as a result of coalition airstrikes against ISIS?
DILLON: That is not what we are seeing. We have (inaudible) very forthright and have been very open and transparent with those that we have
had stripes that have resulted in casualties. We own up to it and we are very forthcoming with that in a monthly civilian casualty report.
GORANI: So -- and exactly that, the monthly civilian casualty report does indicate several hundred deaths, though?
DILLON: That is correct.
GORANI: But they are not allegations?
DILLON: Those are -- I'm saying that the allegations the numbers that she would talked about our allegations. We look into those and that we are
credible and we will own up to that and we are very forthright and transparent in saying just that.
GORANI: Right. Just the nature of the battlefield itself, dense, civilian populated areas like the old city in Mosul. I mean, inevitably it's going
to present challenges here. They're not open field.
You have the same issue with Raqqa as well. This is going to be a city that will be defended to the death by these ISIS fighters. They consider
it the capital of the self-proclaimed caliphate of theirs. How are you going to approach Raqqa?
DILLON: Well, I would offer what is the alternative. The alternative is to not allow and support our partner forces to defeat ISIS and we have seen
the brutality in the reporting that you were organization has done on these atrocities that ISIS has been it has done.
Snipers go up hundreds of people women and children as they try to flee. Those that are trying to plea and who are captured or executed so we cannot
sit there and allow this to happen.
The quickest way to stop human suffering is by defeating ISIS so that we can get the aid and the central services and free the civilians.
GORANI: All right, Colonel Ryan Dillon, thanks very much for joining from Baghdad. We appreciate it.
DILLON: Thank you, Hala.
GORANI: Thank you.
Before we leave the fight against ISIS this hour, I want to show you a video that Kurdish fighters was shot in Raqqa today. Take a look.
GORANI: That's a female sniper. She fired then you immediately hear another shot that lodges in the wall right above her head, an incredible
near miss. What has caught people's attention, though, is the expression on the fighter's face.
You could see her smiling wide maybe out of shock after that brush with a bullet point. At one point, she looks up. She realizes just how close a
cut to her head. She won't soon forget that day.
To Venezuela now where the crisis there is intensifying after a brawl in front of the National Assembly Tuesday. We saw incredible pictures of a
police helicopter flying over the Supreme Court building in Caracas while shooting off gunfire and grenades.
Our Patrick Oppmann is following all of this for us. Tell us more about how today unfolded and how this crisis just keeps getting worse and worse
PATRICK OPPMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It does and you think it couldn't get any worse but then you have these images that really just capture the
attention of Venezuelans who have already gone through so much have become frankly numb to the violence that unfolded in front of the nearly every
And then you have all this incredible moment the lasted for two hours of a helicopter not just a helicopter but a stolen police helicopter from
boarding of the center of Caracas the building where the Supreme Court and other government buildings are located a full on attack -- Hala.
OPPMANN (voice-over): Called it coup attempt by the Venezuela's government, the attackers rained down grenades and gunfire on government
buildings in the capital city, Caracas.
No one appeared to be on injured, but the aerial bombardment further unsettled the country already on the brink. For roughly three months
protesters have clashed with police enraged over the lack of food and medicine and the socialist government's refusal to call elections.
At least 75 people have died in the unrest. Some Venezuelans have called for the country's military and security forces to step in and end the chaos
in the oil rich country.
The government blames the attack on this man. Before the attack he took to social media and identified himself as Oscar Perez, a police officer and a
pilot. He demanded that Maduro step down.
This combat is not with the rest of the state security forces he says, it's against the impunity imposed by this governments against security.
Following Tuesday's attack, Maduro vowed to respond to violence with violence.
"If Venezuela was plunged in chaos and violence, and the (inaudible) Revolution destroyed, we would go to combat," he says, "we would never give
up" and that's going to be done with votes. We would do with weapons. We would liberate the fatherland with weapons.
But some in Venezuela's opposition wonder if the helicopter attack was in a setup to justify a heavier hand from the government. Among other things
pointing to the fact that no one was killed and the chopper circled the capitol for about two hours. It was not shutdown.
The man who identified himself as a pilot said he is not affiliated with any opposition group. But he frequently post on Instagram where he now has
hundreds of thousands of followers.
Reportedly a canine trainer in this video, Perez jumps from a helicopter with a German shepherd strapped to his chest. In another, he uses
(inaudible) apply makeup to shoot out a target over his shoulder.
And in 2015, Perez even played the role of a hero cop in the movie, "Suspended Death." Venezuelan officials have vowed to hunt him down.
Whatever his true motives this would be revolutionary is now starring in the role of a lifetime.
OPPMANN: And Hala, Venezuelan officials insist this was for real that it was a terrorist attack and they are hunting down this officer, anybody who
may have helped him, and of course, looking for the stolen helicopter.
Whether this will lead to other officials, members of the military rising up as well, nobody can say, but each day seems to bring worst news from
Venezuela. A situation that just continues to deteriorate -- Hala.
GORANI: All right. And feeling a police helicopter doesn't sound like to be something easy to do, but there you have it in Venezuela where the
situation is getting worse. Thank you very much, Patrick Oppmann.
Still to come this evening, polls show the controversial U.S. health care bill is very unpopular in America and nine Republican senators say they
will vote against it. So now it's being rewritten. Could there be political consequences? I will ask a Democratic congressman.
Plus cyber experts say ransomwares is infecting computers around the globe, some major brands are affected. We'll tell you how it could impact you
have after the break.
GORANI: The Republican Party in America controls the White House, the House, the Senate, and most states, but it has not yet delivered on its
biggest single promise repealing and replacing former President Obama's health care law, better known as Obamacare.
The Republican Leader Mitch McConnell has delayed a vote in the Senate after nine Republicans said they would oppose the bill. They can't afford
that. They can only afford two GOP senators opposing it. Still though just hours ago President Trump sounded hopeful.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Health care is working along very well. We're going to have a big surprise with a great
health care package. So (inaudible).
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: Donald Trump promising a great, great surprise. While Republicans are revising the bill to gain support, many are heading home to their
district for the holiday weekend where they may face angry voters in scenes like this.
GORANI: Protesters earlier today at congressional offices and lawmakers have reasons for concern. Look at this new poll showing only a 17 percent
public approval for the Senate Republican health care plan, 55 percent disapprove.
Critics of the plan say cuts too much in Medicaid leaves too many people uninsured. It does not result in cheaper coverage and gives massive tax
cuts to the rich.
As for the public's opinion on Obamacare, well, polls show that most voters want to change to only 17 percent said it should stay as is. Joining me
now from the U.S. capital is Democratic Congressman Jim Himes who voted for Obamacare that passed in 2010 from Connecticut.
Thanks for being us. So Donald Trump, the president, promised a big, big surprise. What do you think that surprise is? Does he know something we
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES (D), CONNECTICUT: Well, Hala, those of us in Washington have learned to take the president's pronouncements with a grain
of salt. You know I'm also told that ax reform is doing really, really well here in the capital, which is news to most of us here.
And look, the Republicans have just a terrible, terrible problem after seven or eight years of promising to repeal Obamacare. They've got two
just absolutely horrible options.
On the one hand, who knows? Maybe they'll succeed in getting this bill done, which will allow them to claim a legislative victory. But you know
as the Congressional Budget Office, this is the impartial arbiter of the effects that legislation has.
As the CBO has ruled 22 million Americans including 15 million Americans next year would be thrown off of their health insurance. So, look,
senators and congressmen, if there anything they are sensitive to whether they are making their constituents lives better or worse.
And that's why you see a great deal of resistance to actually getting this thing done. It would be -- should they pass it, it would be not what the
president promised. In fact, it would be politically catastrophic.
GORANI: But most Americans according to polls are unhappy with Obamacare as well, how would you change the current healthcare law so that it
benefits the most number of Americans in the United States?
HIMES: Yes, it's -- that's a really good question and you know, the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, has always sort of bounced along between
kind of 45 and 55 percent popularity.
But there some really interesting things there. I mean, there are interviews on the street with people who absolutely hate Obamacare and want
to see it fully repealed.
But you know, that Affordable Care Act, that is actually pretty good. You know and -- but from a policy standpoint there's no question that the
Affordable Care Act did some good things.
It covered some 20 million Americans. It took away insurance companies abilities to turn you down if you have pre-existing conditions, but yes, it
has problems. Every major piece of legislation that has ever passed in this building has had some problems.
And so Democrats like myself are saying once you get over the fever dream of a repeal that would be so devastating to many Americans, let's get
together and talk about those areas in which we could make real improvements to the Affordable Care Act.
GORANI: So what would it take for you to get together because the U.S. system has become so hyper-partisan and obviously I'm talking to from the
U.K. where -- believe me the U.K. has its own political problems.
But one thing that most Western democracies agree on is that government- funded healthcare is a given. It's the right as long as you're a citizen of the country. What would it take for the two parties in America today to
get together and come up with a common plan?
HIMES: Well, you know, what you just said this sort of common agreement in most modern nations that, you know, healthcare is a right that government
should make sure is provided to everybody.
That, of course, is far from accepted by the Republican Party here in a United States and they sort of believe given all evidence to the contrary
that there is a free market solution.
But what it will take to just answer the political question, it will take a failure of this bill for Republicans to realize that what they have been
promising repeal of the Affordable Care Act, if it were to occur, all of a sudden the Affordable Care Act would look an awful lot better, you know, as
it was threatened then it look to people who are getting benefits from it and may not even know that.
So if their repeal effort fails, I do think there may be an opportunity not necessarily to come together for bipartisan legislation, at least to have a
more same conversation, a less sort of religious belief driven conversation about the future of healthcare here.
GORANI: So you are sitting on the sideline here saying to yourself, All right, this thing -- this is twice that really it hasn't worked out the way
they wanted. I mean, the first piece of legislation that passed the House then was abandoned by the Senate.
They wrote their own. This too isn't getting the support it needs. Are you kind of sitting on the sidelines looking at this whole process and
thinking, all right, I'm just going to enjoy this right now and watch it fail over and over again?
HIMES: Well, there is nothing enjoyable about it. I mean, there is still a very real risk that this thing will pass and again as the impartial
arbiters have said, 15 million Americans next year will lose their Medicaid.
Medicaid, of course, is the American program that provides healthcare to the poorest Americans, that provides an ability -- and by the way, 40
percent of all American children are on Medicaid.
So there is nothing enjoyable about this. There is the prospect that this will fail and once it fails, maybe this institution's sobers up a little
bit and we can have a real conversation about advancing the cost of health care.
And by the way, doing what the president promised, you know, I'm no big fan of this president, but this president promised on the campaign trail
universal coverage, lower premiums, and lower deductibles.
Hey, if he's serious about that, there is a lot of Democrats in this building willing to work with him.
GORANI: Jim Himes, overall, though, the Democratic strategy as well this is something we've observed because the sixth congressional district race
in Georgia got a lot of international attention. We covered it here on CNN International as well.
But it was a failure and a defeat really in these four special elections. What's the Democratic Party getting wrong in terms of its strategy of
trying to gain back some of these grounds that loss in congressional districts across the country?
HIMES: Yes, there is no doubt. Look, in the nine years I've been in politics, the Democratic Party has gone from having the presidency, the
Senate and the Congress, most state houses, most governorships, to being in the minority across the board.
And there is a whole bunch of reasons for that. The Democratic Party politically we do have work to do. You know, it's clear from the election
that we lost an awful lot of what we've come to call white working-class communities in places like the Midwest of the United States, Ohio,
Michigan, and Wisconsin.
There are a lot of reasons for that. We become sadly a coastal party, a couple party of, you know, we're accused of being the coastal elites and
all of that. I do think that we need to do an awful lot more to appeal to people who are honestly feeling very, very threatened.
And Donald Trump, look, he spoke to them. He lied to them. He said we are bringing back coal mines. We are going to bring back those manufacturing
jobs. But he spoke to them, he appealed to their sense of disenfranchisement and of anger in a way that frankly the Democrats stopped
doing. We have a lot of soul searching to do about that.
GORANI: Right. And also in terms of your leadership, I mean, Nancy Pelosi on Capitol Hill some have criticized her and said really it's under her
leadership that the Democratic Party has registered some of these losses. This is what she has said in response to calls from some for her to maybe
step aside. Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REPRESENTATIVE NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: You think I'm worth the trouble so frankly. I love to say I'm not disrespectful of people's
views. I respect any positive things that people want to say or even negative as long as it's constructive.
But when it's blatantly self-serving and beyond the normal competition that the press so enjoys focusing on instead of wouldn't be better if all the
press were focusing on the Senate heartless mean-spirited deal.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: Jim Himes, is the Democrats' problem its leadership? Is that an issue for you do you think?
HIMES: You know, relative to the larger issue that we were talking about before, which is to say that we have been perceived in traditionally
Democratic areas like Ohio. Working-class communities that we have been perceived as
somehow out of touch with those communities and the polling shows that we are.
Relative to that challenge I would tell you who's running the show in this building is pretty small beer. We do have an awful lot of work to do to
understand how it is possible, and by the way, what's happening this week may help us in that regard.
How is it possible that a party that brought forward the Affordable Care Act which expanded coverage for lots of vulnerable Americans that we have
lost touch with people who are kind of hanging on by their fingernails, whereas the Republican Party which is now trying to pass a bill which would
throw 24 million Americans off of their coverage.
If you're me, if you're a Democrat, you say how is it possible that we have sort of lost that contest of ideas and I think that where our focus needs
All right and you don't have much time before 2018. Jim Himes, thanks very much, a U.S. House Democrat from Connecticut. We appreciate it.
HIMES: Thank you, Hala.
GORANI: Let's turn our attention now to that big cyberattack we told you about yesterday. Europol says there is still no way to disable that
malicious bug infecting computers around the world.
The massive ransomware attack has hit big companies like the Russian gas giant, Rosneft, BNP Paribas as well the bank. The ransomware infects
computers and locks down there hard drive and it demands a $300 Bitcoin ransom.
Europol says companies should never pay the hacker. The infection is a type of worm that moves from computer to computer by taking advantage of
CNN Money investigative reporter, Jose Pagliery, joins me now live from New York. Is it my understanding that these companies that were attacked just
hadn't updated their Microsoft operating system? It was something as simple as not installing patches?
JOSE PAGLIERY, CNN MONEY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, with what we knew late yesterday that seemed to be the case, but now a different picture
starting to emerge here, Hala. Well, just in the last few hours, it seems like what initially looked like a criminal enterprise using ransomware to
extract ransom, extract money from these victims.
It's really a concerted operation against Ukraine and we know that because at least Microsoft has now said that this attack started by hackers
attacking a tax software provider in Ukraine. This is a company that provides tax software that is that must be used by law in Ukraine.
They infected that point and then pushed out updates to everyone who uses that software so that they could sneak into companies across the country
and the reason that this is infecting companies and agencies outside of Ukraine is because American, British, Irish companies have infrastructure
They have server farms. They do business there and so they are hit as well, but what we know now is that what looked like an amateur hacking
operation is really something that's targeted at entities in Ukraine and trying to destroy their computers.
GORANI: So when we -- so ransomware means we'll infect your computer, shut it down and you either pay us a certain number of Bitcoins or we will not
unlock it for you, is that correct?
PAGLIERY: That's right. The way that ransomware typically works is that it infects your computer and locks down all of your files and so if you
don't pay that ransom your files are gone. You cannot decrypt them. You can't unlock. You have to wipe your computer.
This is slightly different. This takes it up a notch. This is going to encrypt your entire drive that means your computer is a brick. It's
GORANI: All right. Well, do we know if they've -- if anyone's paid?
PAGLIERY: Yes, actually. We ran those numbers and it doesn't seem like a lot of people are paying. Here's why, the hackers distributed one address
that everyone can send Bitcoin to and we've checked how much Bitcoin that address has received. This is a public ledger, we can do that.
And it seems like that wallet, that electronic wallet, has only received about $10,000 worth of Bitcoin. So if we're thinking -- we are seeing
dozens of companies or hundreds of companies get hit by this, it doesn't look like many are paying.
And in fact that would mean that they're following the advice of law enforcement, which is to not pay these ransoms because there's no guarantee
you're actually going to get your computer or files back.
GORANI: Ten thousand dollars that's the totals so far. All right, interesting, considering how many computers were infected. Thanks very
much, Jose Pagliery in New York.
Coming up, criminal charges in relation to Hillsboro nearly three decades after the horrific football tragedy, we'll have reaction from the families.
Plus Saudi Arabia says its demands are not negotiable as the kingdom and its allies present a united front against Qatar, where the Gulf crisis
stands now next.
[15:32:18] GORANI: Venezuela is asking Interpol to issue a red notice for a rogue police officer suspected of launching attack on government
buildings. The helicopter that he allegedly used circled the Supreme Court and Interior Ministry, firing guns and grenades. The President, Nicolas
Maduro, called it an armed terrorist attack.
Police here in London say 80 people died or are presumed dead in the Grenfell Tower fire. The full search and recovery operation could take
until the end of this year. And that is to put a final number on the victims.
The Prime Minister vowed, again, to get to the bottom of all the questions surrounding this tragedy.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
THERESA MAY, PRIME MINISTER OF THE UNITED KINGDOM: What all of those affected by Grenfell Tower deserve is an inquiry that gets to the truth and
provides them with the truth and with knowing who was responsible. We need to do that in a careful, calm, and determined way.
We also need to use that same calm determination to ensure we get to the bottom of this wider issue, of why it is that materials had been used in
tower blocks around the country which -- appear to be noncompatible -- noncompliant with the building regulations.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: Well, the day many here in the U.K. will never forget. It was a long time ago but seared in the memories of Britons. It was the 15th of
Ninety-six Liverpool fans went to a football game at Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield, and they never came back. It's been three decades, but we
learn today that six people will be charged with criminal offenses.
"WORLD SPORT's" Alex Thomas has that story. Alex.
ALEX THOMAS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hala, the families of the 96 who died at the Hillsborough Football Stadium tragedy say they simply want
truth, justice, and accountability.
And although they have moved a step closer to it, the process has taken so long that if you take the youngest victim, 10-year-old Jon-Paul Gilhooley,
he would have been celebrating his 40th birthday next year.
So, for well over a quarter of century, the relatives have been fighting to get to this point where six individuals have been charged with criminal
offences. Here is the list of names or perhaps the most significant ones on it, a David Duckenfield and Norman Bettison.
Duckenfield was the police officer in charge of match day security at the F.A. Cup game between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest. He'd never been in
charge of policing such a large sporting fixture before.
Bettison was at Hillsborough but not on duty, yet he went on to become a senior police chief and a central figure as two competing narratives emerge
about who was to blame.
[15:34:55] After the original inquest finding of accidental death was quashed, a new inquiry which lasted more than two years, the longest in
U.K. legal history, declared the 96 Liverpool fans had been unlawfully killed.
That was in April last year. And let's noisy and emotional scenes as the families realize they have been vindicated. The reactions to this latest
announcement was more muted but no less significant, according to the leading spokespeople for the Hillsborough Family Support Group.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TREVOR HICKS, PRESIDENT, HILLSBOROUGH FAMILY SUPPORT GROUP: There are no winners in this, you know. It doesn't bring anybody back from the
disaster. But what it does do, it sends a message out of accountability as we keep saying that nobody but nobody is above the law, be it the police or
And so, you know, any organization -- and we all know of, you know, Grenfell Towers and all these other things -- that watch out because
families will come after you if you don't do your jobs promptly.
MARGARET ASPINALL, CHAIRMAN, HILLSBOROUGH FAMILY SUPPORT GROUP: We changed the course, hopefully, for the future of the country that, you
know, don't ever give up hope. That if you carry on fighting, as the families have for all the damn years, that things can change and things
must change and this must never again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
THOMAS: Trevor Hicks lost two teenage daughters, Sarah and Vicki, and Margaret Aspinall's 18-year-old son, James, also died. Just three of the
96 tales of fans who went to watch a football game and never came home -- Hala.
GORANI: Alex Thomas, thanks very much. Now, to the Middle East.
The leading diplomat from the United Arab Emirates says his nation could impose more sanctions against Qatar. The tiny Gulf nation is already
facing a looming deadline to meet harsh demands from its neighbors.
The country's Ambassador to Russia says there is extensive evidence to prove Qatar supports terror. Here is what Omar Ghobash told Becky Anderson
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
OMAR GHOBASH, AMBASSADOR OF THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES TO THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Well, if you take simply the lists of individuals and entities
that we jointly came out with the Egyptians and Saudis and Bahrainis and the Emirates, there is a list of 59 individuals and 12 organizations, all
accused of terrorism and extremism.
These are people and entities that are based in Qatar. And so you know, one of the questions we have to the international communities, what further
evidence do you need if these people are walking around freely in Qatar and they are described essentially as guests of the government?
These are people who are listed as terrorists, you know, by the United States, by the European Union, and by the United Nation. So really, what
further evidence do you need? Surely that is enough at this stage.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: All right. Let's get straight to Nic Robertson in Abu Dhabi for more on this standoff.
So if more sanctions are imposed, I mean, what is going to -- how is this going to get resolved because it appears as though it's getting worse and
worse every day?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: You know, it's quite interesting what's been said in the interview that Becky deed because the
Ambassador went home to say that the world's top diplomat is Rex Tillerson.
And he was always have been looking to Tillerson to help solve this, but Tillerson seems to be sort of struggling with the magnitude of it, the
speed of it, the gravity of it.
And he hosted the -- he hosted both the Qatari Foreign Minister yesterday and the Kuwaitis who are sort of the intermediaries trying to negotiate
here. And the best that he could really come up with was that he hoped, you know, that both sides, everyone, could even keep an open mind and
negotiate in good faith.
The Qataris, of course, reject everything that we just heard the Emirate Ambassador is saying. The Saudis, of course, endorse what the Emirate
Ambassador is saying. And that, you know, these terms that they have laid out are nonnegotiable.
Another insight into what we can expect came from the State Minister of Foreign Affairs here in the United Arab Emirates. And he said what you
could see is a parting of the ways.
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ANWAR GARGASH, MINISTER OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: -- alternative is not escalation. The alternative is parting of ways.
Parting of ways because it's very difficult for us to maintain a collective grouping with one of the partners in these collective groupings through
this platform or -- you know, is actively promoting what is extremist and terrorist agenda.
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ROBERTSON: And the Qataris are saying anything that isn't sort of rational -- they have sort of outlined everything that's been said there as not
being rational. If it's not rational, it's going to be rejected.
So the parties are as far apart as ever. So if it really is down to Rex Tillerson to fix this, with all respect to him, of course, you know, it's
not a quick fix at all.
GORANI: Right. It doesn't look like it. Nic Robertson, thanks very much, in Abu Dhabi
You'll remember the first time the American President, Donald Trump, met his French counterpart, Emmanuel Macron. It involved a pretty tense
handshake. Well, in a few weeks, the two will have a chance to do it all again, maybe handshake number deux.
[15:40:05] Mr. Trump has accepted an invitation to travel to France for Bastille Day on July 14th, part of commemorations marking the 100 years
since the United States entered World War I.
Let's get more on this with Thierry Arnaud. He is the chief political correspondent for BFM-TV, and he joins me now live from Paris.
So what's behind this thinking, do you think, for Emmanuel Macron to invite Donald Trump on the most important public holiday in France, one could
THIERRY ARNAUD, HEAD OF POLITICAL SERVICE, BFM-TV: Well, I think he wants to be constructive, at the same time when it can, you know, provocative,
daring. Not only with the handshake, but remember what happened when President Trump announced that the United States was going to leave the
Paris agreement on June 1st.
And he came on the air and made a statement in English, basically calling others to make the planet great again, making a joke out of the President's
slogan during the campaign.
So it's quite interesting to see the first step of his diplomatic styles, so to speak. On the one hand, it can be very provocative. You know, go
after the President of the United Sates or at least give that impression.
But he tries not to go too far as well. He wants to be constructive. He realized he needs to have a working relationship with the President of the
United States, and so he extended that invitation, actually on the day that famous handshake took place. And he did so again yesterday when they had a
GORANI: And Donald Trump is terribly unpopular in France. There was that Pew survey yesterday. Only 14 percent of French people have confidence in
I don't remember the exact number for Barack Obama but, I mean, it's stratospheric. French people love Barack Obama. Over 80 percent, I think.
Will there be protests?
ARNAUD: You know, there might be. You're right, it was over 80 percent for Barack Obama. And the President is already being criticized for
extending that invitation to President Trump.
And his inner circle, his advisers, have made the point that it was not only an invitation to President Trump, but this was also a way, as you were
saying earlier, to marked that 100th anniversary of the troops of the United States getting into World War I to support the French People.
And what's very interesting is no matter how the relationship work or doesn't work between the two presidents on both side of Atlantic, this
commemoration, the fact that the United States on two occasions, World War I and World War II, came to the support of France and many Americans
obviously died in this country to save us.
That is always an extremely popular occasion.
ARNAUD: And that is always something that is celebrated here in France.
GORANI: Yes, absolutely, especially those D-Day celebrations in Normandy. A lot of gratitude to the Americans for that still.
GORANI: Now, let's talk a little bit -- and you mentioned hosting Donald Trump might not be popular. He also hosted, Emmanuel Macron, Vladimir
Putin at Versailles, so the very gilded -- the palace obviously of Versailles, the chateau there.
But he's also having a big sort of event in Versailles itself next Monday - -
GORANI: -- to lay out his vision for France for the next five years. Is that a peculiar choice, Versailles? It's the exact opposite of the symbol
of Republican France. We're talking about the big chateau of the French monarchy.
ARNAUD: Yes. Yes.
GORANI: Why choose Versailles?
ARNAUD: Well, he chooses Versailles because that is the location that is traditionally the one you have to go to and perhaps the only place that is
suited to having all of Congress together, which is a very unusual occurrence in French politics. It almost never happens.
But Emmanuel Macron, in a way, has decided -- in many ways, actually, but this one specifically, to Americanize, so to speak, French politics.
ARNAUD: And what he wants to do is make a state of the union speech, in a sense. And that's what he is going to do on Monday. So he is going to
make that first speech on the 3rd of July, and he is going to come back every year and make that state of the union speech. It's very unusual,
very -- never happened before, but --
GORANI: And there are French people happy with this Americanization of their politics.
ARNAUD: Let's wait and see. I mean, so far, what you have to just see is that he is doing very well in the polls. He's even more popular now than
he was when he got elected. He has a 65 percent approval rating, so does his Prime Minister, which is very unusual and very high.
So the way he communicates and the way he addresses to -- he addresses the issues and he speaks to the nation, so far, has been working very well for
him. But I think the hard part is about to begin but, certainly, he wants to sticks to that commitment, to make that speech every year.
[15:45:03] And it's very interesting to me that the way he almost never talks. He doesn't give interviews. He doesn't, you know, mingle with
reporters. But he shows a lot of calibrated pictures of what he does and, for example, supporting Paris' candidacy for the Olympic Game.
It's very -- to me, it's a lot -- it reminds me a lot of what Barack Obama used to do. And I think it's clearly a model for him.
GORANI: Thanks very much, Thierry Arnaud. It's always a pleasure having you on the program there to discuss Emmanuel Macron's invitation to Donald
Trump. I hope to speak soon.
Don't forget, you can check out our Facebook page, facebook.com/halagoranicnn. We'll post more of our show's contents there.
We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll have a lot more news. Stay with us.
GORANI: Yesterday, the State Department released its Trafficking in Persons report. And for trafficking victims, the statistics in the report
are all too real.
One woman in California broke free from that awful world by helping to put her pimp behind bars. Now, she is exposing the depraved control tactics
that some of these people use. Linda Kinkade has the story.
LINDA KINCAID, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a Wednesday morning, but Elle Snow is already sitting down to watch the game.
ELLE SNOW, FOUNDER, GAME OVER: I'm trying to figure out how many potential trafficking victims do we have.
Right here, Sexy Party Baby Girl, fetish. Says she's 21. There is no way that that girl is 21 years old. No way.
KINCAID (voice-over): Snow is monitoring an online classified ads service where she says human trafficking frequently takes place.
SNOW: So I always look for that when I'm looking on these ads. Do I see any identifying tattoos? And you see it a lot these days.
And brandings tend to consist nowadays of names, especially names with a crown. Huge red flag, especially if the name and the crown is on the chest
or the neck. Also anything that do with currency, diamonds, money bags.
KINCAID (voice-over): Snow founded the anti-slavery organization "Game Over" in 2016.
SNOW: Well, what happened to me was called the game, this monstrous beast that is this world of sex trafficking.
KINCAID (voice-over): A survivor of forced prostitution, Snow says her trafficker was a drug dealer who had first tricked her into thinking they
were starting a relationship. But she says when she agreed to travel from her home in Eureka, California to his apartment in Sacramento, everything
SNOW: He would come in and eventually start saying that he's not who he said he was, that he's actually a pimp, and that this is how prostitutes
[15:50:01] He had these six-inch heels, which I had never worn heels in my life, being six foot tall. And this little pink skirt, never worn pink in
life. And he wanted me to put these on, and he said I had to get to work.
KINCAID (voice-over): Snow says she fought back for months. But every time she did, the violence got worse.
SNOW: I was beat bloody. I was strangled. I was -- he was dragging my body to a car when I woke up. My throat was so swollen and black and blue.
I still have busted capillaries in it from all that.
KINCAID (voice-over): The trafficker, David Anderson, went by the moniker, K.D., short for King David. He was given nine years for the trafficking of
a 16-year-old girl. It was the first human trafficking conviction, ever, in California's rural Humboldt County.
Kyla Baxley was the lead investigator in the case. She says Snow's testimony was instrumental in convincing the jury slavery can happen in any
KYLA BAXLEY, INVESTIGATOR, HUMBOLDT COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE: Victims of sexual assault and exploitation didn't choose this. Realizing
that it was happening here in Humboldt and having an interaction with Elle Snow, being one of the victim in this case.
She's gone on to do phenomenal things. She's raising awareness here in Humboldt. So I think it was a good thing on many levels.
KINCAID (voice-over): Since Anderson's conviction, Snow has been on a mission. In addition to investigating ongoing trafficking cases on her
own, Snow also trains law enforcement and speaks to local students.
Recently, Snow co-wrote and produced a play based on her own experiences, "Jane Doe in Wonderland."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Got to run.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can't be late!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What? Just wait!
SNOW: The community rallied around and supported the survivor voices here, especially a rural community. If you're putting posters everywhere and
everybody is talking about it, and all the teams they try and recruit say, hey, I know what a pimp is. I know those books. All of sudden, the
traffickers don't feel comfortable anymore.
And so having the community rally around is really -- it's really changing everything. It's pretty phenomenal.
KINCAID (voice-over): Proof every contribution has its role to play in helping end a brutal game.
Linda Kincaid, CNN.
GORANI: It is normal for the President of the United States to make a phone call to a country's new leader. But when Donald Trump called
Ireland's new Prime Minister, it was a conversation with a reporter in the room, in the Oval Office, that instead had people talking.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, we have a lot of your Irish press watching us. They are just now leaving the room. Yes.
And where are you from? Go ahead. Come here. Come here.
Where are you from? So we have all of this beautiful Irish press. Where are you from?
CAITRIONA PERRY, WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF, RTE NEWS: I'm from RTE News.
TRUMP: RT --
TRUMP: Oh, good.
PERRY: Caitriona Perry for RTE News.
TRUMP: Caitriona Perry. She has a nice smile on her face, so I bet she treats you well.
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GORANI: Well, that is Caitriona Perry -- you heard her introduce herself to the President -- the Washington correspondent for Ireland's RTE News
channel. She tweeted that the moment in the Oval Office was, quote, bizarre.
President Trump likes it when he gets positive press coverage and when it's negative, he famously shouts fake news. But it turns out Mr. Trump has
some very flattery fake news framed and on display at several of his own golf courses. Jeanne Moose explains.
[15:55:06] JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Which of this is a fake Trump "TIME Magazine" cover? Is it A? Is it B? Or is it
The answer is C. And you could see it hanging on the walls of at least four Trump golf clubs, according to "The Washington Post."
DAVID FAHRENTHOLD, REPORTER, THE WASHINGTON POST: Hung on the wall, very impressive looking. It's fake. It's totally fake.
MOOS (voice-over): The exclamation points are a giveaway. The "Apprentice" is a television smash! Trump is hitting on all fronts, even
But there was no real "TIME Magazine" issue dated March 1, 2009.
FAHRENTHOLD: The design is all wrong if you know "TIME Magazine's" design. You can tell for a bunch of different reasons, but in this, the border, the
placement of the headlines.
MOOS (voice-over): "TIME" confirmed that it's a fake. Why would anyone bother inflating Trump's press?
FAHRENTHOLD: Somebody felt the need to gild the lily, to add, basically, a fake extra thing on top of what was real.
MOOS (voice-over): President Trump has a love/hate relationship with "TIME." He even got pecked posing for it.
TRUMP: Look, "TIME Magazine" is no friend of mine, except they put me in the cover so much. Not because they like me, because they like selling
MOOS (voice-over): Starting in 1989, he's been on the cover 14 times.
TRUMP: I think we have the all-time record in the history of "TIME Magazine."
MOOS (voice-over): No. That record belongs to Richard Nixon, who was on the cover 55 times. The magazine says it has asked the Trump Organization
to remove the phony cover from their properties. A White House spokesman told "The Post," we couldn't comment on the decor at Trump Golf clubs one
way or another.
But the Internet is commenting with jokes like, my guess is @realdonaldtrump has a few of these in his wallet.
"Sports Illustrated" invited readers to, put yourself on the cover of S.I. So I did!
Before President Trump points fingers --
TRUMP: Fake news.
MOOS (voice-over): -- he better cover his own face. Jeanne Moos, CNN.
TRUMP: Fake news, folks. A lot of fake.
MOOS (voice-over): New York.
GORANI: Well, "TIME" has asked them to take those framed covers down. This has been THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. I'm Hala Gorani. Thanks for watching.
Quick break, then it's "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS" on CNN.