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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST (voice-over): She died in a way no one would expect.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can`t imagine it. I can`t fathom it. Can`t put it into words.

BANFIELD: Can the wife of a fire chief really die in a house fire?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family has taken a hard hit.

BANFIELD: Turns out not all is as it seems. Forensics say she died from a bullet.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was part of our extended family.

BANFIELD: Could it be ruled a suicide? And is her family being blocked from the truth?

When a teenager goes missing, it`s a desperate race to find them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We was picking up red flags from the very beginning.

BANFIELD: But when Savannah Leckie disappeared, there was a whole different vibe.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tried to get them to come back to the scene, and they wouldn`t.

BANFIELD: As cops battle Mom for answers, Savannah`s bones emerge from a fire pit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re going to investigate every possible angle.

BANFIELD: Married within days, her bags all packed, the mom is now facing murder.

A teenager accused of driving 100 miles an hour while high.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you want to say anything to the family about what happened?

BANFIELD: Her out-of-control car smashing into a house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your child is home. They`re in the living room. You know where they are. You know what they`re doing.

BANFIELD: Inside, two sisters just watching TV are suddenly crushed to death.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And then within a matter of seconds, they`re gone.

BANFIELD: To make matters worse, four other terrified kids were inside that speeding car.

One month away from her very first baby, Savannah Grenwin (ph) is suddenly gone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Looking forward to my first grandbaby. Now I don`t know.

BANFIELD: Family says she stepped out of her apartment just to go upstairs.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s very unlike her to just up and disappear like that.

BANFIELD: But how can anyone disappear on a flight of stairs? Or is there much more to this story?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My heart`s broke. I mean...

BANFIELD: And what do you suppose happened to this guy? Looks like quite the victim, right? Would you believe cops say he tried to rob three

football players? We`re talking carjack karma.

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BANFIELD: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. This is PRIMETIME JUSTICE.

Every job has its perks, right? Benefits, freebies, access, special treatment. And you`d think being the wife of the fire chief, you`d know a

lot about fire safety. More than most, anyway. But Nanette Krentel, the wife of fire chief Steve Krentel, either didn`t know or didn`t care about

fire safety when she died at home engulfed in flames.

Or maybe Nanette had no choice because at Nanette`s funeral, her family got a call that Nanette died from a bullet wound and not because of the fire.

And there`s where the mystery truly begins tonight. Her family and friends just can`t believe it.

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ERICA BOOGAERTS, FAMILY FRIEND: Nan was wonderful, compassionate, sweet, caring. I can`t imagine it. I can`t fathom it. I can`t put it into

words.

KRIS HINES, DIST. 12 FIRE PREVENTION CHIEF: It`s really rough right now. You know, I mean, the family`s taken a hard hit, the fire department

family, of course. She was part of our extended family.

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BANFIELD: There is still a lot of mystery to be left untangled here in these Louisiana woods, and it doesn`t look like it`s going to be easy

because a canyon seems to be widening between Nanette`s family and Nanette`s husband, the fire chief.

I want to go to Michelle Southern Plumlee. She is the assistant news director for the Louisiana Radio Network. Michelle, why is the there a

chasm between Nanette`s family and Nanette`s husband? You`d think they`d all want answers together.

MICHELLE SOUTHERN PLUMLEE, LOUISIANA RADIO NETWORK (via telephone): Well, that remains a mystery, actually. I mean, even authorities on the local

level are telling us that the investigation into Krentel`s death is ongoing and that there really is nothing that they can say at this time that

wouldn`t compromise what is going to be a very lengthy investigation. I mean, really, there are more questions than answers in this case.

BANFIELD: And one of the big questions has to do with her family. They want another autopsy. Hearing that news at her funeral, that Nanette

didn`t die in the fire, she actually had a bullet to her head, you`d want another autopsy. You`d want a few more opinions, at least a second

opinion.

And I`m not sure I understand why, Michelle, they had to actually launch court action in order to get an agreement from Nanette`s husband, the fire

chief, to allow that body to be looked at again.

[20:05:12]PLUMLEE: Yes, and that`s another thing that they really are being very mum on. But even we in the media were told initially that the

fire chief`s wife had died, along with her pets, in this house fire. And it wasn`t until later that we even found out that she had died from a

gunshot wound. But another big mystery here is why the coroner has yet to officially classify, you know, the death as, say, something like a

homicide.

BANFIELD: So that leaves the cause of death open at this point, manner of death open at this point. Was there ever a gun retrieved at the scene? Do

we know anything about a gun in this story?

PLUMLEE: There`s nothing about a valid gun in this story that I have seen. There`s, you know, not been anything released on this investigation in the

form of a news release. You know, it`s mostly just what we`re seeing, you know, like you said, even in other local media about this lawsuit where the

family is filing to preserve the body. They want to do their own independent autopsy.

I mean, clearly, they feel that something is afoot and that they aren`t receiving cooperation from this woman`s husband, the fire chief.

BANFIELD: All right. So Nanette`s sister`s name is Wendy (ph). And Nanette`s friend`s name is Lori. And they had this to say about how a fire

chief`s family member doesn`t know how to escape a fire. Have a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Knowing my sister, I just couldn`t fathom that she didn`t have the resources and the gumption to get out of that fire. So I

knew from the start that it was foul play.

LORI RANDO, NANETTE KRENTEL`S FRIEND: We are very eager for them to, you know, turn over every stone that they can turn over to find out, you know,

what happened to her, and more importantly, who did this, and bring them to justice.

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BANFIELD: I want to bring in the attorney for Nanette Krentel`s family. Yvette D`Aunoy joins me now from New Orleans. Yvette, maybe you can help

me answer some questions here. But there are rumors floating around, there are reports out there that Nanette`s family was getting more and more

worried that the coroner was going to call this a suicide, and ultimately launched legal action, hired you to put a stop to any kind of cremation,

and hopefully, get a second opinion. Am I right?

YVETTE D`AUNOY, ATTORNEY FOR NANETTE KRENTEL`S FAMILY: Well, yes. Yes and no. What happened was the family was receiving information by way of rumor

and third parties. Stephen Krentel is her next of kin under the law, so that`s the person that the coroner and everyone else communicates with.

There was not an open line of communication between Nan`s husband and her biological family. So the information wasn`t flowing. The family was

receiving information from all different directions, didn`t know if what they were being told was true or not true.

They had heard from someone that the death was going to be determined a suicide and that the remains would be released to Mr. Krentel and that he

was going to immediately cremate the body. I have found out from the coroner that the investigation is still open. It`s not been closed. It is

not likely that there will be a determination as to whether it`s a homicide, suicide or whatever it is any time very soon.

The coroner is working cooperatively with Nanette Krentel`s biological family to have a second autopsy done. They`ve agreed to it. They have no

opposition to it.

BANFIELD: Yes, but all of this took litigation, as I understand it.

What I was very confused is why on earth wouldn`t Nanette`s family just call Steve, call her husband, and say, Hey, we want a second opinion.

We`re all in this together, right? But as I understand it, multiple texts, e-mails, phone calls all went unanswered, and they grew increasingly

nervous and called you, a lawyer, and said launch the action. That doesn`t sound like there`s a lot of love lost between these two families.

D`AUNOY: Well, you have to understand that the coroner`s hands were tied because he...

BANFIELD: Coroner`s not the part of this. It`s Steve, the fire chief, and Nanette`s family. They`re not communicating, and they`re on the same side,

or they should be. Why aren`t they communicating?

D`AUNOY: I don`t know why they`re not communicating. I can tell you that...

BANFIELD: Why did they have to hire you? Why did you have to actually file a lawsuit to make sure that Nanette wouldn`t be cremated before they

could get a second look, another autopsy?

[20:10:00]D`AUNOY: I can tell you that there was not a lot of communication after the initial incident where she passed away between her

family, you know, her biological family, and her husband. There was not a whole lot. There was communication in the beginning. Then the

communication stopped. We didn`t know if the numbers were not good. We didn`t know if the e-mails weren`t any good. Nobody really knew. All they

knew was that they had tried to contact him and did not receive a response.

There was a concern that possibly evidence could be lost. The coroner was open to having a second set of eyes look at it, but his hands were tied.

So we filed a legal proceeding to make sure that that second autopsy could be done, and that in the event we can find any new information with that,

that it would be preserved.

BANFIELD: Can I ask this? We were able to get ahold of Steve Krentel, the fire chief in this story. And we got a statement from him, and I want to

read that to our viewers.

He said, "The first I was made aware of the petition" -- that would be the petition to get that second autopsy -- "was Friday afternoon. I

immediately gave the coroner my permission. I have no problem with a second autopsy. The petition made it seem like I was fighting it, but that

is not at all true. The petition was the first I heard about it. I am in the dark just as much as everyone else. Nothing has been shared with me as

to the facts of the case. I welcome the second autopsy and would hope the family would share the results with me as soon as they receive them."

That sounds like a guy who`s in the same boat as your clients, Nanette`s family. Do you think he`s a guy in the same boat as Nanette`s family?

D`AUNOY: I have no way to know. All I know is my clients were not able to talk to him, that he wasn`t responsive to telephone calls or texts, and

that they were interested in having a second autopsy. They received some information that he was requesting that the body be released to him for

immediate cremation. They received information from someone else that he had said that the death was a suicide and none...

BANFIELD: Was there a gun? Was there any gun that we know -- I mean, a suicide, think about it. If there`s a house fire and you want to kill

yourself and you shoot yourself and set a fire beforehand, well, the gun can`t burn. If you shoot yourself, the gun`s still there, and

theoretically, it would be pretty darn close to the body.

Do we know anything about a gun potentially close to the body?

D`AUNOY: What we -- we do not know anything officially. I can tell you that her family tells me that both she and Steve owned handguns, so

handguns would have been present on the premises. Whether they were found near the body or not, we don`t know. We believe that handguns were found,

but that doesn`t necessarily mean anything because we all know who`s been connected to the case, including her family members, that she and her

husband both owned handguns. So...

BANFIELD: And we want to be really clear that the fire chief in this story, you know, Steve Krentel, is not a suspect. He`s not been charged --

well, he`s not a suspect, that we know of, that`s for sure. The police aren`t saying so. He has not been charged in this story. For all we know,

he could be just as much a victim as Nanette`s, you know, other side of the family.

I want to bring in Robert Rowe real quickly, if I can. He`s fire investigator, and he`s the president of Pyrokop (ph), Incorporated. So

Robert, look, it doesn`t take, you know, a rocket scientist to put together a crime scene. If somebody commits suicide with a gun, it will be there

regardless of any kind of fire. Fire`s your expertise. So I`m not wrong, right?

ROBERT ROWE: No, you`re not wrong. I mean, I`ve investigated fires where a suicide was involved, and we did retrieve a weapon near the body. So

yes, the evidence is preserved. It`s just a matter of seeking -- searching through the debris and making sure that you complete a thorough

investigation.

BANFIELD: And the thorough investigation is not always shared immediately, and I understand that, as well, Robert. But when you have that kind of

discovery, isn`t that the kind of investigative evidence you would share with family members sooner rather than later so there just isn`t this kind

of angst that the Krentel family seems to be going through right now?

ROWE: Well, that`s a tough question because there`s certain things that, you know, until your investigation is complete, that you don`t really want

to share right away because new information may come up that may prove you to be incorrect in your outcome. So you know, that`s a very sensitive

topic, and you have to be able to make sure that you go through your scene thoroughly, make sure you gather all of the evidence before you actually

come to a conclusion. That`s a very important aspect of fire investigation.

BANFIELD: And we are often very much on the outside of that, you know, sphere of influence when it comes to what all the facts are as a complete

picture. Michelle Southern Plumlee, you know, as far as the folks collecting information in the media, do we know anything, Michelle, about

the story of gasoline? This is something the family has heard through third references, that this was gasoline where the body was found. Do we

know anything more about that, whether that`s confirmed or whether that is just rumor?

[20:15:10]PLUMLEE: As far as I`m concerned as a news reporter in Louisiana, that is just rumor. And you know, we are obviously friends with

all of our contacts at the state fire marshal`s office, and when they tell us, We can`t tell you anything right now, we have to hang up the phone.

And that is the answer that we have been given throughout the duration of this investigation.

BANFIELD: Well, we remain as confused as ever. And I think there`s still a lot more questions than answers in this story. We`re going to continue

to look through it. Michelle, Yvette and Robert, thank you so much.

A 16-year-old girl disappears in the middle of the night, her mom says. Mom reports her missing, saying, The last time I saw Savannah, she was in

bed. Why investigators say not only was that mother uncooperative, she was hiding something and that there was a firepit nearby with some answers.

That story`s next.

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[20:20:10]BANFIELD: Sounds like something straight out of a horror movie - - tiny bone fragments, teeth, a meat grinder, bottles and bottles of lye, which, if you know, can make human tissue dissolve more quickly. But this

is not something coming to the big screen. It is in fact how police say 16-year-old Savannah Leckie`s life may have ended.

When she was born, her mother, Rebecca Ruud, gave her up for adoption. But nearly a year ago, Savannah came back. She left her adoptive mom to come

back and live with Ms. Ruud.

But then Savannah suddenly goes missing. Two weeks later, burned remains are found on her mom`s 81-acre farm in Missouri. Those burned remains were

in a burn pile. It just so happens to be the same day that her mom and her mom`s boyfriend got married. Rebecca Ruud was arrested at a bus station as

she was apparently trying to skip town with a lot of luggage. And now she`s charged with her own daughter`s murder.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anger is the only thing I can figure out. We will not stop until, you know, everybody that`s involved in this has been

prosecuted.

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BANFIELD: I want to bring in Sheriff Darrin Reed from Ozark County, Missouri. Sheriff, thank you so much for being with us. We`ve spoken

about this story before, but since we`ve spoken, there have been so many more details that have come out. What was Savannah`s life like right

before she disappeared, with this biological mother, Rebecca Ruud?

DARRIN REED, OZARK COUNTY SHERIFF (via telephone): Savannah lived on a (INAUDIBLE) maybe one-acre farm. She lived in a small camper. Her mother

and boyfriend stayed inside of a pretty good-size metal barn with no electricity.

BANFIELD: And that was her living conditions. But what was her treatment like at the hands of her mother? And admittedly, according to police

documents, what did her mother do to her?

REED: Her mother admitted to, basically, the way I look at it, torturing the child. She -- over a pet (ph) wound, she had her use alcohol and salt

to rub on that wound twice a day for two weeks, even scraping the scabs off, also taking and rolling (ph) around in like a pig pen, and then

bathing off in a pond.

BANFIELD: Why did she...

REED: (INAUDIBLE) some of the things...

BANFIELD: Why did she admit to these things, knowing full well the situation at hand? Her daughter`s burned remains are in a burn pile

nearby, and she is a suspect. Why would she say these things?

REED: You know, Ashleigh, I think, you know, in her mind, somehow, she thought this was the proper way for her to discipline her child. I think

she made a comment that`s the way she was disciplined whenever she was growing up.

BANFIELD: So she didn`t think there was anything wrong with that kind of treatment...

REED: No.

BANFIELD: ... rubbing alcohol and salt into a wound and rubbing until the scabs come off, throwing her in a hog pen, forcing her to crawl through the

hog pen and then throwing her in a pond and using a cold hose on her -- she didn`t think there was anything abusive about that?

REED: No. She just -- it was kind of like a matter of fact to her. You know, it was just -- didn`t seem like it was a big deal.

BANFIELD: So where are we with this investigation? What was the condition of the remains that have now turned the out to be Savannah`s? What did you

find?

REED: We found -- I think we found enough skeletal bones that the head can be restructured, so we can find out whether Savannah had taken any blows to

the head or anything. We`re working on that now. We had a lot -- this is just the beginning in stages of this investigation. There`s so much work

that has to go into this here in such fine detail that this is just the very beginning stages.

And as you said, we picked her up because we felt like she was a flight risk. We arrested her at the Greyhound bus terminal, and we had 24 hours

to get (ph) charges. We filed charges on her. And we`re not going to stop until this investigation is complete.

[20:25:04]BANFIELD: She had a bus ticket to Memphis, and her brand-new husband had a bus ticket to Kansas City. And Sheriff, as we`re seeing the

reports, she married that husband, Robert Peat, the day those bones were discovered. There`s a lot of speculation as to why she may have done that,

the marital privilege issue, et cetera.

Has she talked about that? And is she protected, is he protected with the marital privilege when it comes to this investigation?

REED: You know, on the marital privileges, you know, that works in a lot of cases, but whenever you have a victim that`s 18 years or younger, then

that doesn`t go into play. So you know, they can testify against each other since we have a victim that`s under the age of 18.

BANFIELD: And we`re looking at the picture of Rebecca Ruud right now and her daughter, Savannah Leckie. But what about Rebecca`s brand-new husband,

Robert Peat? He hasn`t been charged in any of this. Is he a suspect in any of this?

REED: He`s definitely a suspect in this here. And like I said, it`s a very early stages of this investigation. And all those that need to be

charged in this investigation will be charged.

BANFIELD: I need you to clarify one more story that we`ve been hearing, and I just need confirmation on any or all of it. And that is that days

before Savannah went missing, her mother, Rebecca, called the fire department, said she needed help putting out a fire. And when they got

there, the reports say Rebecca had an injury, the mom had an injury that needed to be treated.

And when those responders said, Well, where`s your daughter? And we`ll see if she needs treatment, too. The response was, Well, she`s in the shower.

She`s just fine.

Is that true, and that two days later, they got the call Savannah`s now missing?

REED: Yes, we understand that she would not let the firemen anywhere close to where Savannah was supposed to be at. The firemen wanted water to

drink, cold water to drink, in, like, 100-degree weather, and she denied them access to her -- to the living quarters area and to get water and --

very suspicious.

BANFIELD: So on a day where she calls the fire department, says, I have a problem with a fire, I need your help, my daughter and I have both been

involved in this fire, but you can`t come inside my house in 100-degree- plus weather to get some water because my daughter`s in the shower. Is that correct?

REED: Yes. You know, you have to understand there`s no electricity at this place, so that doesn`t even make sense to me. There has to be a

generator started in order to get water going. And you know, she says that Savannah was injured during -- or you know, burnt during this fire, as

well, and she, you know, wouldn`t let the first responders go down there and check on them. We found out about this here a little bit later, after

the fact.

BANFIELD: And is it also true that -- I mean, you can`t make this stuff up -- that Rebecca, the mother, along with her 16-year-old daughter, Savannah,

were volunteers for the fire department?

REED: Yes. Savannah was a junior volunteer for the fire department, and then Rebecca was a volunteer fireman and...

BANFIELD: You know, let me -- let me bring in our fire investigator. This will be a really good opportunity to weigh in on this. Robert Rowe is

still with me.

Robert, you`ve been hearing the conversation that I`ve been having with Sheriff Darrin Reed about all of this. There is this firepit and the bones

are found in the firepit. They are skeletal, a couple of fingers intact, some teeth. And as you heard, the sheriff potentially a way to get that

skull reassembled to determine if there`s some blunt force trauma to her head. But there`s also this report that the bones may have been burned a

few times.

Can you help walk me through how anyone could possibly know that?

REED: Well, you know, I`m not close to that investigation, and I don`t know exactly where they`re going. But nonetheless, once -- you know, bones

are evidence, and you know, there`s testing that can be done on the bones to positively identify a body.

But the degree of burning is something that investigators will look at. I mean, if there`s a prior fire that affected the bones, then obviously,

that`s something that`s going to be considered, as well. Did they try to reburn the evidence?

BANFIELD: I mean, that`s obviously something that needs to be considered. I want to bring Jonna Spilbor in. She is a defense attorney. And I think

you`ve looked at a lot of cases where you find out what life was like before an incident, and you work backward to see if there`s any motive. I

want to add a few things to see if that tweaks your interest as an attorney.

The reports indicate that Savannah`s adoptive mom got a lot of information from the biological mom. It`s the biological mom that`s under arrest right

now and facing murder. That apparently the bio mom said called her and said, I can`t deal with this kid. I can`t deal with her. She`s costing me

time. I have to fix things that she breaks.

She`s costing me money. I`m afraid I`m going to lose my farm. I mean, she had a lot of complaints to the adoptive mom, who I guess has a boyfriend

that Savannah didn`t get along with and that`s why she went back to her natural mom. But does that give them fodder or just give them a story for a

jury?

JONNA SPILBOR, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think what it`s going to give investigators is basically a motive. Because no matter how they lived --

and listening to the lifestyle that we just heard -- they`re not like me and you, right? They live in this sort of no electricity out on this farm,

they rub salt and alcohol in the wounds, I mean, just not like many people live.

There has to be a motive. Why did the biological mother kill her daughter or why did she allow the boyfriend to kill her daughter? Somebody involved

in that daughter`s life is responsible for this. Putting the pieces together is going to be the hard part or at least going to be the slow

part.

But you know darn well that the death is connected to the mother or the boyfriend. What investigators are going to have to do is try to get the

mother to talk and see what she knows and if she is willing to --

BANFIELD: Or --

SPILBOR: -- implicate the boyfriend.

BANFIELD: -- or get the boyfriend to talk because he`s not charged yet.

SPILBOR: Right.

BANFIELD: And if he is facing down a murder rap and then a death penalty rap, I`m just looking for the state here, Missouri, death penalty state?

I`ll have to look that up. Isn`t it the squeeze play? You squeeze one against the other, right?

SPILBOR: But usually you`re squeezing the one whose already got there, the thumb on them, which right now is mom.

BANFIELD: It is a death penalty state. We`ve got our crack team to confirm that. Thank you (INAUDIBLE). We are going to keep our eye on this one, find

out what happens next. I do want just to remind you that Robert Peat, this new husband, while the sheriff says, oh, you bet he`s a suspect. He hasn`t

been charged in this. He`s not been charged yet. We are going to watch to see it.

A teenage driver with four other kids in the car loses control, maybe because the car was going more than a hundred miles an hour. Crashes right

into this home. Inside that home, two sisters killed. The factor that pushed prosecutors to send her to adult court is next.

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BANFIELD: Probably fair to say we`ve all made stupid, even reckless mistakes when we were 17, but Alia Sierra is going to be hard pressed to

use that excuse when she fights a reckless homicide charge. When you hear what police say that 17-year-old did, you may very well agree.

Here`s Alia being walked through the courthouse in Indiana after being accused of driving her car over 100 miles per hour with four terrified kids

inside. And if she looks devastated and terrified, maybe even remorseful, well maybe she should be. Because while the four kids in the car survived

that catastrophic crash after Alia plowed into this house, two sisters who were inside that house were not as lucky.

Callie and Haleigh Fullerton, ages 8 and 17, died in their living room after being crushed by that car under their sofa. Their brother couldn`t

save them even though he saw the whole thing happen. Their mom couldn`t save them either, even though she was hospitalized after this crash. Alia

Sierra was allegedly high on opiates while behind the wheel. As she`s led into court to face adult charges, the reporters tried to get some kind of

an answer.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you want to say anything to the family about what happened?

BRIDGET FULLERTON, MOTHER OF VICTIMS: There was this loud like thunder noise, and then it was like an explosion. And the wall just like starts,

you know, there`s debris everywhere. I got thrown down. And I was hurt, but I was like, get up, get up, you know, because of the girls. And I realized

the car is on top of the couch where the girls are.

We were yelling for the girls. And there was nothing. Jacob was trying to pull his little sister out from underneath the car. I always said as long

as mommy`s in the house, you have nothing to be afraid of. And I just hated it because I couldn`t do anything to help them. She does have to do time,

her mom can still go see her. We can`t see our children. We have to go to the cemetery.

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BANFIELD: I want to bring in Bridget and Todd Fullerton, the parents of those two young girls who were killed. Bridget and Todd, thank you for

being with us and sharing this story with us. There is a lot that you are processing right now. Not only the unbearable damage your family is

suffering, but also the prosecution of another. Are you following the process? How are you managing this?

[20:40:00] TODD FULLERTON, FATHER OF VICTIMS: We are following the process. We went to the first court hearing, and heard the charges read off. And my

wife was disappointed that they didn`t even say the girls` names. They just read them off as initials and she felt hurt by that. But, yes, we are

following the process.

BANFIELD: Can I ask you about that fateful moment when this car came crashing into your house. You knew what was happening. And then Alia Sierra

and those four other kids literally popped out of that vehicle. What happened next?

B. FULLERTON: My -- I yelled for Jacob to come downstairs. And my father- in-law jumped up on the porch. And I said, the girls, the girls. And so they were trying to lift the car up off of the girls. And I had been

injured. And I went out and called 911. And they just kept trying to get the car off the girls.

My father-in-law even waved some car down to, you know, have some more help because the car was just so heavy. But then as soon as the paramedics got

there, they made me get in the ambulance. And then they ended up life (INAUDIBLE) me.

BANFIELD: So Jacob at the age of 15, he saw his sisters in this condition. He witnessed this, didn`t he?

B. FULLERTON: He -- he didn`t actually witness the car coming through the house. He said he thought it was an earthquake. But when I called him

downstairs, he had to actually jump over a few steps because there was a big gap where -- she hit the house so hard that it knocked off its

foundation.

So, it has to be torn down. But he was helping my father-in-law, and my brother-in-law even came over. And they were all trying to lift this car up

off the girls, but they couldn`t.

BANFIELD: And Jacob is coping with what he`s gone through at this point, I`m guessing. He probably witnessed things he should never have.

B. FULLERTON: Yes.

T. FULLERTON: Yes.

B. FULLERTON: Yes. That`s one thing, like I said, he tried pulling his little sister out. And I keep going back to the accident and living it over

and over and over again multiple times. But I don`t have that image in my head.

BANFIELD: It`s unbelievable that Alia Sierra was not hurt herself nor were the others. Anything other than, you know, what could be treated. What was

she like at the scene? Describe Alia Sierra as she got out of that car?

B. FULLERTON: She yelled holy F. And jumped out of the car. And was -- my father-in-law said she was running around like a crazy girl while they were

trying to lift the car up, you know, but kids just kept jumping out of the car. And then they were trying to get out. And my father-in-law was even

having them try to help lift the car up because the girls were underneath the car.

BANFIELD: Was she aware of what she had done? Did she say anything about what she had done?

B. FULLERTON: No, not that I know of. Like I said, as soon as she jumped out, I mean, I really wasn`t paying a lot of attention to her because I was

so worried about the girls. And then after they started lifting -- trying to lift the car up, I went out and I called 911. And so then I didn`t go

back into the house after that.

BANFIELD: So there were reports, Todd, that Alia was foul-mouthed and angry on the scene, which I cannot imagine. I`m hoping that`s a communication

error. But is that true?

T. FULLERTON: That`s what Bridget has said. And, you know, she got out and saying a lot of cuss words and, I don`t know, maybe -- my dad thought she

said I`m so sorry, but she was cussing through it. I wasn`t there. I do construction for a living and we had a water issue on a job and some

drywall was damaged and the customer called me back. So, usually I`d be on the couch with the girls watching TV and my little one and I watch TV a lot

after work.

BANFIELD: We`re seeing those pictures the of Alia walking through that courthouse, and clearly no foul language, but it does look like she knows

she`s in a world of trouble. She knows she is facing down an adult charge. When you look at that picture, what do you think?

[20:45:00] B. FULLERTON: I think she destroyed our lives by her wanting to have a good time.

T. FULLERTON: Yes. I mean, I`m sure she is hurting. I mean, I don`t know if she`s hurting for us or if she`s hurting for herself. I mean, we`ve never

gotten an apology for anything. But, you know, she acted like an adult and did something very serious and now she`s going to have to pay the price.

BANFIELD: Well, Bridget and Todd, my heart goes out to you. And I wish the best for you as you navigate this process ahead both in your family and

also in the system as the criminal charges advance. But I thank you for sharing this story with us. We`re looking at your beautiful daughters.

I just want our audience to know that Callie was going to turn nine. She would have started third grade. She loved baking and her dogs. And Haleigh,

17, about to be a senior, played volleyball, student council, on track to be the valedictorian. It is such a horrifying tragedy. I`m sorry for the

both of you. I do wish you strength as you move forward.

T. FULLERTON: Thank you.

B. FULLERTON: Thank you. It`s just hard. You think you know your kids are safe in their own home.

T. FULLERTON: And the community has been exceptional. I wanted to say that. Very happy with the school and everybody in the community. They clothed us

and fed us. We didn`t have a place to live, anything. People took care of us and we really appreciate it.

BANFIELD: Todd, Bridget, thank you, thank you for tonight.

A young woman vanishes after visiting a neighbor`s apartment, and police have been searching for days and days. They cannot track her down. The

family says she would not have run off because she is eight months pregnant.

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BANFIELD: Neighbors can be so mysterious, right? Sometimes you just can`t help but wonder, what`s going on over that fence or behind that door across

the hall? In Fargo, North Dakota, some folks in one apartment building may just have reason to be suspicious.

That`s because 22-year-old Savanna Greywind had just ordered a pizza when an upstairs neighbor reportedly needed some help sewing a dress. Her family

says she left the apartment, went upstairs, and they never saw her again. Making this all the more complicated is the fact that Savanna is eight

months pregnant.

And if you`ve ever been pregnant or know someone who is or was, you know at eight months, you don`t exactly head off for a long walk. P.S., Savanna`s

car, Savanna`s keys, Savanna`s wallet were all left behind. Police seemed stumped. And tonight her family is fearing the worst.

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KAYLA GREYWIND, SISTER OF SAVANNA GREYWIND: All I`ve been doing is watching the door for her to walk in. We need her home.

NORBERTA GREYWIND, MOTHER OF SAVANNA GREYWIND: It feels like a dream. My heart`s broke. I mean --

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: I want to bring in Jay Thomas, the host of "The Jay Thomas Show" on 970 WDAY in Fargo, North Dakota. Jay, what is the story behind this

neighbor upstairs? What do they know about him?

JAY THOMAS, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST, 970 WDAY (via telephone): Right now what we know about the neighbor upstairs is really not a whole lot other than

that there was claims of some issues earlier. We don`t know what those issues were. And we know that the police have searched that apartment three

times. And at this point have found nothing. That`s all we know.

BANFIELD: So, it`s a woman and family apparently says, this is according to a publication called "The Forum," that they were leery of this woman

because of some, quote, past experiences. Do we know what that meant?

THOMAS (via telephone): We don`t know what that meant other than back in June, there was a post by Savanna complaining about her clothes being taken

out of the laundry room and being worn by the person upstairs. That`s what we`ve seen on social media.

BANFIELD: So, this magazine or this publication, "The Forum," also says that Savanna`s mom sent her brother upstairs at about 2:30 in the afternoon

and nobody answered the door. And that Savanna`s dad later went to that woman`s apartment, knocked. The woman answered and said, we`re not finished

yet. And that later after that, the mom went and knocked on the door, and the neighbor said Savanna had left. Do we know if police are getting the

same story?

THOMAS (via telephone): The police are getting the same story with the exception of there`s a little -- there`s a little not known about this

brother going up at 2:30 to get Savanna, but nobody answered. I have the family on my radio show yesterday. And they did talk -- one family member

went up to get Savanna because she had to bring someone to work.

And I believe it was her brother or her sister, and they said she wasn`t done yet. So the mom brought that sibling to work. And then the mom came

back, went upstairs, and they told her, well, Savanna left. Because when the mom came home, Savanna still wasn`t downstairs. Savanna had ordered a

pizza to eat. And when the mom came back, she wasn`t there. So she went upstairs --

BANFIELD: So clearly, Savannah thought, I`m just going to be upstairs for a moment and a moment has turned into days and days. Jay, thank you for that.

We`re going to continue to watch this just to see if we can get some answers to Savanna Greywind`s whereabouts.

I want you to look at the mugshot in the meantime. Take a good look at it. Doesn`t look good, does it? Just wait until you hear about the folks that

police say this guy tried to rob.

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BANFIELD: If you`re into self-preservation, there are a couple of things you just don`t do. Like you don`t tug on superman`s cape, you don`t spit

into the wind, and you don`t carjack a car full of football players. In Albuquerque, New Mexico, this is Angelo Martinez after he allegedly tried

to do the latter. And that`s how the story ended sort of.

Police say he asked three amateur football players for a ride. They said OK. He got into the car. Police say he pulled a fake gun on them. Ordered

them out of the car. And then they laid into him. A player punched him in the face, the others joined the scrimmage. Reportedly, the police say this

is not his first carjacking rodeo, but this just might be Angelo Martinez`s last. Jonna Spilbor, will these football players get charged in this?

SPILBOR: Not a chance. This is self-defense. That`s an easy one.

BANFIELD: And don`t pull the mask off the old lone ranger.

SPILBOR: I got your reference.

BANFIELD: And don`t mess around with Jim.

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: Thank you, Jonna Spilbor. Thanks for watching, everybody. See you back here tomorrow night.

[21:00:00] Stay tuned right now. "Forensic Files" is next.

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