Return to Transcripts main page

CNN Newsroom

President Trump Preps for United Nations Debut; U.S. Army Frontline Unit in South Korea; Interview with Senator Mike Rounds; Facebook Trying to Learn Extent of 2016 Russian Ad Buys; Protesters Take to the Streets of St. Louis for Third Day; Georgia Tech Student Shot Dead after Police Confrontation; U.S. Bull Market Notches New Title; Trump's Chuck and Nancy Phrase Goes Viral. Aired 6-7p ET

Aired September 17, 2017 - 18:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[18:00:03] BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM, I'm Boris Sanchez filling in New York for Ana Cabrera this weekend. We appreciate you joining us.

We start with President Trump in New York City right now after spending most of the weekend at his golf resort in New Jersey. It's just hours before the president again takes the international stage hosting several world leaders ahead of the United Nations General Assembly. He's scheduled to speak there on Tuesday. His first ever appearance before the general assembly .

Most analysts are expecting the president to address the pressing nuclear threat from North Korea that should dominate his address to the world body.

Our global affairs correspondent Elise Labott is with us now.

Elise, what are people expecting from the president's speech?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Boris, this is really the first time that the whole international community will be able to take a measure of President Trump and I think it's going to be as much about America's role in the world and how America -- if America is going to lead under President Trump than it is going to be about all of these pressing issues, North Korea among them.

I think, you know, when we asked ambassador -- U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley about the president's speech she said he's going to slap all the right people and hug all the right people. So I think you can definitely expect a little slap on North Korea because of its provocative behavior and these missile launches as well as Iran and some other pressing concerns.

Take a listen to Ambassador Haley with Dana Bash on "STATE OF THE UNION" this morning talking about the U.S. strategy towards North Korea.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NIKKI HALEY, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: I think we all know that basically if North Korea keeps on with this reckless behavior, if the United States has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way, North Korea will be destroyed and we all know that and none of us want that. None of us want war.

But we also have to look at the fact that you are dealing with someone who is being reckless, irresponsible, and is continuing to give threats not only to the United States but to all of their allies, so something is going to have to be done.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LABOTT: So there you have it. You know, look, there's an increased kind of military rhetoric coming from this administration about, you know, we're kind of -- that they say they are kind of at the end of the road, you can't kick the can down the road anymore, Boris. And that's why I think you have this amped up rhetoric from the administration on a military option towards North Korea. Kind of a military deterrent, if you will, a message to North Korea that if you continue this provocative behavior, if you take this too far, if you launch a missile against the U.S., Guam or any of its allies, this will not go well for Kim Jong-un.

This will be suicidal and it's also a message to countries like China. If you don't, you know, get your act together on this diplomatic solution, if you don't implement those sanctions and bring North Korea to the table, we could be running out of time.

SANCHEZ: All right. Elise Labott, we thank you for the perspective.

The U.S. National Security adviser H.R. McMaster says the North Korean leadership has only one option. That is to get rid of their nuclear weapons. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

H.R. MCMASTER, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: He's going to have to give up his nuclear weapons because the president has said that he's not going to tolerate this regime threatening the United States and our citizens with a nuclear weapon.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABS NEWS' "THIS WEEK": So you're saying that if he doesn't give up those nuclear weapons the president will strike?

MCMASTER: He's been very clear about that, that all options are on the table.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Military analysts and retired generals say there is no military option that is not ugly and devastating to populations on both sides of the Korean Demilitarized Zones.

CNN got an exclusive look at the American military units that would be directly involved if something were to happen. Here's Ian Lee in South Korea.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A war in Korea could start like this. Volley after volley of North Korean artillery raining down on Seoul. Thousands of weapons are currently pointed at the South Korean capital, home to more than 10 million people. Defending it is priority number one for her generals and politicians.

The U.S. Army granted CNN exclusive access to the Sixth Battalion 37th Field Artillery, the unit's workhorse, the M-270 Alpha 1, also known as steel rain. Staff Sergeant Kavon Isabell gives me a tour of the MRLS, the multiple rocket launch system.

STAFF SGT. KAVON ISABELL, 37TH FIELD ARTILLERY, U.S. ARMY: It's all about being able to provide support fires in an extremely timely manner but being very precise at the same time.

LEE: The MRLS can fire 12 rockets or two missiles up to 300 kilometers with GPS precision. And its ability to shoot and scoot makes it hard for the enemy to target.

ISABELL: This one I have more fire power so I can hold two pods and it's tracked so I can pretty get anywhere that I need to. It's very -- it's not very common that these get stuck.

[18:05:11] LEE: Lieutenant Colonel Will Hsu is in charge of this live fire exercise just kilometers away from the border with North Korea. It's his responsibility to make sure that the unit is ready to fight tonight.

LT. COL. WILBUR HSU, 6TH BATTALION, 37TH FIELD ARTILLERY: For us it's really about going out, continually to train and practice and make sure that we have mastered the fundamentals and make sure that this thing can shoot far and shoot fast.

LEE: Hsu's artillery unit is part of a bigger picture of advanced aircraft and missiles protecting Seoul, according to Assembly Member Kim Jong-dae.

KIM JONG-DAE, NATIONAL ASSEMBLY MEMBER (through translator): When North Korea fires its long range artillery, we can analyze the trajectory and calculate the point of origin within a short time. That data is linked to our artillery with fires self-propelled and multiple launcher targets to destroy the target.

LEE: But the National Defense Committee member worries that tens of thousands of potential shells could carry a deadly passenger.

KIM (through translator): What's scarier is that North Korea is storing about 5,000 tons of chemical weapons. They are also thought to have biological weapons like anthrax. Long range artillery can be used as a delivery method for these weapons of mass destruction.

LEE: If North Korea prepares an attack, Kim says it's up to Hsu and his troops to help deliver a silencing counterpunch. Failure could turn Seoul into what both North and South Korean officials describe as a sea of fire.

Ian Lee, CNN, Cheorwon, South Korea.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Ian Lee, thank you for that reporting.

Joining us now, U.S. Senator Mike Rounds. He's a Republican from South Dakota. Also a member of the Senate Armed Forces Committee.

Senator, thank you so much for joining us this Sunday. Earlier today U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, said the Security Council is out of options when it comes to dealing with North Korea.

The White House has suggested that they will cut off trade with countries that do business with the DPRK. According to the White House's own estimation, some 90 percent of North Korean trade comes from China.

Is the White House ready to cut off our biggest trade partner?

SEN. MIKE ROUNDS (R), SOUTH DAKOTA: I think that's the next step. It's unfortunate because it will impact the U.S. economy as well. But I think we have to be in a position to measure whether we want to take some short-term harm versus the long-term impacts if we don't do anything.

It is getting down to the point where we are running out of other options. We'd like the Chinese and the Russians both to be more helpful in resolving the situation. Diplomacy is always the right thing to do whenever possible but if that does not work and if these sanctions are not successful, we simply cannot have a nuclear armed North Korea with the intent that they have expressed.

SANCHEZ: And, Senator, you mentioned China being more helpful. How specifically do you think they can alter the course that Kim Jong-un is apparently on?

ROUNDS: They are the largest trading partner for North Korea. They have relationships not just in terms of the amount of trade but they've also overtly tried to create business relationships with people that are in North Korea. They have relationships there today.

The regime in North Korea understands how significant that relationship is. But I think people have to realize that I don't think China is necessarily happy with North Korea and the relationship and the way they've taken advantage of China over the years. They are a counterfeiter of not only U.S. dollars but also of currency within China as well.

They are part of the problem when it comes to the corruption that they find in a lot of provinces near the Korean border. China is working hard to eliminate that corruption in their own party system. Korea -- North Korea is part of that problem. So I think there are some real reasons why China wants to see a stable border there.

They just simply don't want to have U.S. troops on that border. They'd prefer to have a neutral country or at least some sort of a buffer between themselves and South Korea. I think we have to make it very clear to them that we have no interest in occupying North Korea and that we are open to some sort of a middle ground when it comes to their interests in having their border protected. I think we have to respect that as well.

SANCHEZ: Well, one of China's primary exports to North Korea is oil. Reportedly the United States has approached China about cutting down on their oil exports to North Korea but they have declined.

If China is serious about preventing a nuclear North Korea, what would it take for them to put that pressure on Kim Jong-un?

[18:10:08] ROUNDS: I think there's a couple of items. First of all, financially the banks that do business with North Korea, they also do business elsewhere. And we have not impacted their largest banks. So the financial institutions that are over there right now, we can still impact on a secondary basis. If they do business in North Korea, they are not welcome to do business with us. I think that's a big part of it.

The second part is you have to understand that if North Korea is recognizing their dependency on foreign oil, I would suspect that they will have other options that they'll try to utilize. They may very well have established oil reserves. They may very well have tried to make arrangements with Russia as an example and knowing right now our relationship with China, I suspect that Russia will be more than happy to not only irritate us but make a sale of additional oil to North Korea as well.

So the Chinese are weighing all of that in this process. I think the bottom line is, we do need their help if we're going to resolve this in a nonmilitary selection. But it is true, as terrible as it is, we do have military options available to us. They all end up the same way for North Korea.

SANCHEZ: Now you've mentioned Russia and I'm glad you did because I wanted to pivot to cyber security. You're also the chairman of the newly formed Cyber Subcommittee, the latest Defense bill indicates increased funding for cyber security.

Just this week we're learning new details about the kind of data that Facebook was able to gather on Russian attempts to spread this information during the last election. I'm sure you're privy to some of that information.

What does the U.S. need to do right now to keep Russia from moving forward with that kind of propaganda campaign again?

ROUNDS: We have two reports that have been published. One is a classified, the other is a non-classified. I've read both. The classified simply has more information how we got the information but the unclassified for individuals that want to really get into it, it's available, it's not a very large report, it's about 30 pages or so.

In the report it makes it very clear that Russia did everything they could to use the same approach that they did before the Internet came along. They used propaganda, they put out misinformation and they used all sorts of tools back then. In a lot of cases it was publications, TV and so forth.

Now they are using the Internet and what they are also doing is they figured out that if they really want to get those Internet articles in front of more people, then they will play the game of increasing the number of reads thus making it a more popular item and being picked up by the media. So they've done that.

What we have to do in the future is to be able to identify that to the American public, to let them know what is going on and to identify the third parties involved with Russia and Russia is very good at masking the individuals who are actually doing their dirty work for them. They have done it not just in the United States. They are trying to do that in Europe as we speak.

So they are not done with it. There was no real impact to the Russians as far as they were concerned. They will -- they will be trying to do it again. So you're going to hear more about it I suspect over the next couple of months as we uncover more activity where Russia has tried to get in and mess with our elections.

I should make note, the information that we have right now does not indicate that they were successful any place and actually getting into the internal operations of our voting systems but that doesn't mean that they didn't test it. Those are some of the things that we want to be able to handle.

The other thing is, when it comes to Internet connections and when it comes to cyber activity, we understand that they've done their best to infiltrate a number of different security systems, Kaspersky is a name of one of them, now you've got a warning out there publicly.

SANCHEZ: A ban.

ROUNDS: And look, they're in it. They understand that it is the fifth domain of war and they're doing everything they can to dominate that and we're going to have to fight back.

SANCHEZ: Senator, unfortunately we are out of time but I'm going to sneak one last question and specifically about health care initiative. You've been very vocal about this past week. Two of your colleagues, Senator Lindsey Graham, Senator Bill Cassidy introduced a bill that would rework Obamacare. Where do you stand on that bill?

ROUNDS: Ultimately it is a very good product and it would truly improve health care in America, but it doesn't kick in until the year 2020. We need to be able to take care of some of the problems between now and then. We are working at a bipartisan issue to resolve that between now and then. To keep the CSRs in place but also to give the states the ability to begin doing reinsurance and high-risk pools.

If we can get that done, we can start to offer some semblance of relief to a lot of folks who otherwise if we don't keep the CSRs, those cost sharing arrangements in place, if we don't give congressional authorization to that, a lot of people between 100 percent and 250 percent of poverty are going to get hurt.

SANCHEZ: Our conversation to continue at a later date perhaps when the GOP takes up health care once more.

[18:15:03] Senator Mike Rounds, thank you so much for the time. We appreciate it.

ROUNDS: Thank you, sir.

SANCHEZ: Coming up, the special counsel and Congress zero in on Facebook ads linked to Russian operatives. But just how deep does the propaganda go? Apparently Facebook doesn't even know. One source tells CNN it might actually still be going on. Stay tuned.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: Following breaking news out of the Atlantic Ocean where Tropical Storm Maria has now strengthened to become Hurricane Maria. This comes as tropical storm watches have gone up for parts of the East Coast, awaiting Hurricane Jose.

In all three storms are now churning in the Atlantic but meteorologists are mostly concerned about Maria which looks like it is following the path of Hurricane Irma.

Meteorologist Julie Martin joins us now from the CNN Weather Center in Atlanta.

Julie, give us an update on what you're seeing.

JULIE MARTIN, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, you're absolutely right. Two of the three storms now hurricanes.

[18:20:03] That's Jose and Maria, watching both of them very carefully. Lee a tropical depression, no impacts to land at this point.

(WEATHER REPORT)

MARTIN: So tropical storm conditions are expected and along with those now it looks like the rain is on the increase in terms of the models. So looking at perhaps a half foot of rain here on Long Island and down to Jersey Shore, all as a result of Jose.

So certainly no rest for the weary, Boris, in terms of the tropics.

SANCHEZ: Yes. Certainly unsettling. Julie Martin, thank you.

We learned some new details this week about the extent Facebook played in Russia's election interference campaign. After getting hit with a search warrant, the social media giant handed Special Counsel Robert Mueller copies of ads linked to Russian operatives looking to spread pro-Kremlin propaganda. But here's the thing. It could be even more Russian ads still out there.

CNN's senior investigative correspondent Drew Griffin reports. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DREW GRIFFIN, CNN SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is only a glimpse inside a shadowy Russian propaganda machine. A few seconds of undercover video at a nondescript office building in St. Petersburg, Russia, taken by a former worker in 2014.

It's called the Internet Research Agency, a company U.S. intelligence officials called Russia's troll army, a state-funded organization that blogs and tweets on behalf of the Kremlin.

Facebook is one of the top sites Russians target to spread their fake messages. And that is why congressional investigators are demanding Facebook open up its own records, help track the fake Russian news, find out who was behind it.

SEN. MARK WARNER (D-VA), VICE CHAIR, SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: We're seeing more evidence of additional ads and how they are used to manipulate individuals.

GRIFFIN: What Facebook has already found and released is troubling. The company said it believes Russians with links to the Internet Research Agency paid Facebook $100,000 in advertising associated with 3,000 ads, all connected to 470 inauthentic accounts. That's just what Facebook has said so far.

Behind the scenes, CNN has learned the social media mega site is scrambling to find out the full extent Russians used Facebook to target Americans during the 2016 campaign. There may be more ad buys by Russians that haven't been found according to sources inside the company. And worse, the sources tell CNN it could still be happening.

Sam Woolley and his team at Oxford University tracked fake news and social media during the campaign and says Facebook and other social media sites should be acting much more quickly to answer questions.

SAM WOOLLEY, DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH, OXFORD INTERNET INSTITUTE: Facebook needs to be held accountable for this. They absolutely are able to track and know what's going on. They have very robust machine learning mechanisms for understanding the way that networks function and where attacks originate.

GRIFFIN: Facebook's marketing tools made it easy for Russia's Internet Research Agency or anyone else, not just to spread fake news, but spread it exactly where they wanted it -- specific states, specific voters, with specific interests. For example, posting on the pages of women between 20 and 45 from Wisconsin, who like Hillary Clinton, and it works.

Russian Internet trolls set up this Facebook group, Secured Borders, which had 129,000 followers, and even tried to organize an anti- immigration rally in Idaho last summer. That's according to Russian journalist Andrei Sakharov who uncovered the Secured Borders' Facebook site as part of his investigation into Russian trolls. He says more than a dozen Russian-backed Facebook groups had millions of followers. [18:25:09] ANDREY ZAKHAROV, SPECIAL REPORTER, RBC.RU: Fifteen

Facebook accounts gave them about 12 million or 15 million views per week.

GRIFFIN: The fake sites, the fake stories were mostly negative about Hillary Clinton and either supported or promoted far-right conservative positions that were being pushed by Donald Trump. Experts say the overall effect was to spread so much disinformation, it all just started to look real. And attacks on the so-called mainstream media played right into the Russian's hands.

Drew Griffin, CNN, Atlanta.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Drew Griffin, thank you for that.

Let's bring in our panel, we have Josh Rogin. He's a columnist for the "Washington Post." And David Drucker, he's a CNN political analyst and a senior congressional correspondent for the "Washington Examiner."

Josh, first to you. These details emerging about the kind of data that Facebook was able to gather on the Russian attempts to spread misinformation during the last election, they turned this data over to Robert Mueller's team. Help us understand how this fits into the bigger picture? Because Mueller is looking at a lot of things. The dismissal of Michael Flynn, the firing of James Comey, Paul Manafort's finances. Put this into context for us.

JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Sure. Well, we're just getting more and more information about the scope and the scale of Russian government and Russian government supported efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. The fact that we're -- now these companies are admitting that they became used platforms for this kind of interference is really shocking and will help the Mueller team get to the bottom of the extent of the Russian interference.

It doesn't speak necessarily to the issue of collusion which is the second big part of this investigation. But it doesn't not speak to that. And the question I think going forward will be, how were these Russian-supported or Russian-sponsored initiatives able to figure out how to target these ads so specifically? Did they have help from anyone inside of the United States? Did they have help from anyone inside of the Trump campaign or the Trump organization?

Those are the exact links that investigators not just inside the Justice Department but also on Capitol Hill will be looking at as we get more information on these efforts.

SANCHEZ: And David, Josh raises a good point. It's not only who was behind these fake accounts but also who they were targeting, who they were putting these ads out for. What does this tell you about the Mueller investigation, where it's headed?

DAVID DRUCKER, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I think it tells us that the Mueller investigation is looking at as a part of whether or not there was any collusion or any misdeeds by American citizens in this campaign, exactly to what extent foreign operatives and foreign governments were involved in this and obviously specifically Russia.

And Josh alluded to this here. There have always been two questions here, right? I mean, did the Trump campaign collude with anybody. And I think that still remains to be seen. You know, we've seen little drips and drabs with the Don Jr. meeting with the Russian official at Trump Tower that may lead us in that direction.

But I think one thing that has always been very clear from the very beginning was that Russia meddled and that Russia meddled to help Donald Trump, the president of the United States. Now I don't think that's the reason Trump won. From my coverage of the campaign and my understanding of micro targeting and what you're able to do, and that's why you're able to do this sort of stuff, but I think that from the very beginning of this campaign, the summer of 2015, I reported on Russian Internet mouthpieces that are loyal to Vladimir Putin that were promoting the Trump message and promoting Trump campaign on Russian language sites as well as American U.S. English language sites.

And so I think that that has always been clear. And what this piece of information may help fill out is the way in which Russia did this and I think we also need to understand, finally, that this is not something that anybody in a basement can do. The Russian Intelligence Services, the American Intelligence Services, the Chinese, all are uniquely sophisticated. I'm sure I'm leaving a couple of countries out. But you need to have unique, sophisticated capabilities to both do this and in many cases do it without obvious fingerprints. And so I think this particular revelation helps bring some of this to light.

SANCHEZ: Yes. So it may not just be your 400 pound guy in his basement as we've heard before, right?.

DRUCKER: No.

SANCHEZ: I did want --

DRUCKER: In a comfortable chair.

SANCHEZ: Yes. I did want to ask you about this because I found it interesting. The Senate and House Intelligence Committees requested this information from Facebook. They didn't hand it over but they did hand it over to Robert Mueller. Facebook citing privacy concerns.

Do you buy that? Is there perhaps another reason that we're not seeing that Facebook would hand this over to Robert Mueller and not to Congress?

DRUCKER: No. I mean, I think that without knowing all of the specifics here, I think that sounds reasonable enough to me. There is a huge concern in the United States about the United States government getting a hold of American's private information, private -- and this is the whole debate over the NSA and its ability to monitor phone calls. SANCHEZ: Right.

[18:30:07] DRUCKER: And so the fact that Facebook handed it over under warrant as opposed to just under request I think makes perfect sense to me.

SANCHEZ: Sure.

Josh, to you, we are hearing now that there are several figures from the Trump campaign that are going to be testifying before intelligence committees, one of them Roger Stone. We had Donald Trump, Jr. testifying behind closed doors not long ago. Roger Stone will also testify behind closed doors, even though he wants it to be open to the public.

How do you think this plays into public perception, the fact that more and more of these hearings are going on without cameras in the room?

JOSH ROGIN, COLUMNIST, THE WASHINGTON POST: Yes. I think we're entering a new phase in both congressional investigations where -- after the summer break where a lot of these committees are going to be finally hearing from a lot of these key figures.

You mentioned Roger Stone, Donald Trump, Jr. I would add Michael Cohen, who we've now heard is scheduled to testify next week. These are the key witnesses. These -- this is the key phase where we can find out what the truth behind some of this.

Now, there's a value to testifying in private because, you know, there are things that are involved in these discussions that really can't be aired publicly. They deal with classified matters.

There's also a value to be testifying in public because there should be transparency. And, in my opinion, the public should know what the defenses are and the explanations are from these key figures.

So I would encourage them to do both. I know that a lot of panel members on both sides want them to testify both in public and private. I think that's the only way we can both have a full investigation and also full confidence by the American people that these questions have been asked and answered. That's all a matter of negotiations between these subjects and these panels.

But in the end, if we really want to have, you know, an airing and a real -- a confidence that this issue has really been tackled and that these investigations really are credible, the American people are going to want to know more than just that these people spoke to these panels behind closed doors. It's not going to be enough.

SANCHEZ: And David Drucker, Josh Rogin, unfortunately, we have to leave it there. But, gentlemen, thank you so much for your perspective.

ROGIN: Thank you.

DRUCKER: Thank you. SANCHEZ: Coming up, breaking news. Protesters return to the streets

of St. Louis for the third night in a row. This is after the acquittal of a White police officer in the death of an African- American man. We'll take you there live, next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[18:36:50] SANCHEZ: We've been following this breaking news tonight, protests erupting in St. Louis for the third day. They have been sparked by the acquittal of a former police officer who fatally shot an African-American man after a high-speed chase back in 2011. He was acquitted just Friday. And since then, we have seen unrest on the streets.

CNN's Ryan Young joins us now from St. Louis.

Ryan, we saw things today, so far, going peacefully. Has that changed? Are we still seeing a peaceful march through the street?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Still peaceful but I want to say something here. Every time we see some line of authorities, that seems to hype parts of the crowd up. So we saw some of the officers in riot gear about three blocks down the way. That got people energized and had them pushing that way.

This is St. Louis University here. And you see they created a line of officers to make sure none of the protesters went toward the university. And so because of that now, you have these officers here who are put in a really bad position of trying to keep everyone out, and people are yelling at them and trying to agitate the situation.

So they've been trying to get some of the people who are at campus to come out. They've been saying, "out of the dorms and into the streets," but that line has been created.

Now, if you turn it this way, you will see that the protest has actually started going down the road here. So we will show that now as we kind of try to catch up with the back end of this.

That was all happening right before our live shot, Boris. You know how this is sometimes with live television. That's when the rest of the crowd decided to walk up this direction.

I will tell you, the organizers have gone through a great bit of, I want to say, grief to make sure that there was no confrontation between those police officers and the protesters as they walk towards the highway. What they did is they made sure that no one got on the highway. That has been the main, I guess, objective of not only the state troopers but the police officers.

But every time there is riot gear, and I do mean every time there is riot gear, you'll see the protesters get very upset and get angry. We're going to turn this way so we can show you as they walk this direction.

Look here. You can see the protesters as they head up the street here. It has remained peaceful. The most tense times, though, is every time they get a chance to start yelling at police -- Boris.

SANCHEZ: Yes, Ryan. You mentioned that objective of getting on the highway. This isn't the only time that we've seen that from protests of this kind. And unfortunately, it's not the first time that you and I have actually had to cover protests and incidents like this.

YOUNG: Absolutely.

SANCHEZ: We should mention that about three years ago, not far from St. Louis, Michael Brown was killed in an encounter with a police officer. Are you noticing anything different this time around?

YOUNG: I think that's a great question. And, Boris, look, we walked together -- I can't count how many times now, but we definitely walked together in Charlotte.

And this is the thing, the protesters here, a lot of them are educated. A lot of them are tired of what's going on here. A lot of them want to see change. And that is like the bulk of the organizers.

But you know, you have to be honest here. There is a dark side of this where you see people who want to create some damage. So that's what's happening right now. We're going to wait to see what happens next as they start to rally to take this corner one time again -- Boris.

[18:40:01] SANCHEZ: You're absolutely right, Ryan. We have seen that dark side emerge. We saw it Friday night. We saw some of it last night. Hopefully, we do not see it again tonight.

Ryan Young from St. Louis. We'll be keeping in touch to follow you throughout the evening. Thank you.

Coming up, a deadly college campus shooting. University police shouting at a student to drop the knife just before shots rang out. Full details next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SANCHEZ: We go now to Atlanta where a Georgia Tech student was shot dead overnight by campus police. It unfolded after a 911 call about a person with a knife on the downtown Atlanta campus.

CNN's Polo Sandoval joins us now.

Polo, the interesting thing about this case is that it was caught on camera.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. We're going to see that video here in just a few moments, Boris, but let me set it up for our viewers, if I may.

This took place last night at about 11:40 when police there on the Georgia Tech campus were called to reports of an individual that was possibly armed with a knife or a gun. [18:45:02] Well, they arrived and they found Scout Schultz, a 21-year-

old student at Georgia Tech. They asked him to put down what, according to officials, was a knife. And this was the result. And again, a warning here. Some of this video is graphic.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're a student? What's your name? What's your name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) Drop it.

(GUNSHOT AND SCREAMING)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANDOVAL: So, again, you're able to see that moment where the officers have to pull their trigger, end up shooting Scout Schultz, who's a 21-year-old student. He was shot at least one time, rushed to the hospital where he later died, Boris.

But again, according to authorities, they encountered this young man outside of a residence hall. They asked him repeatedly to put down that knife that he was allegedly holding and then left with no choice, according to authorities, but to pull the trigger, shooting and killing this young man.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is handling this case. They are the ones who will ultimately have to review this case and determine whether or not this shooting was justifiable.

But any way you look at it, this certainly is a tragic situation that took place there in downtown Atlanta yesterday. The start of the school year, and now one of the students dead. The question though, what was going on in Scout's head --

SANCHEZ: Right.

SANDOVAL: -- when this was happening. And then, of course, the key question there, was the shooting justifiable or not?

SANCHEZ: Right. From what we understand, Georgia Tech police officers don't carry Tasers, so the gun may have been their last line of defense.

SANDOVAL: Sure.

SANCHEZ: It should be interesting to also see the results potentially of a toxicology report for the young man.

SANDOVAL: Absolutely. And this young man's mental state as well will certainly have to be examined.

SANCHEZ: Right. Polo Sandoval, thank you so much. Stay with CNN.

SANDOVAL: Of course. SANCHEZ: We will be right back after a short break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[18:51:37] SANCHEZ: Television's biggest stars including the lovely Sofia Vergara are dazzling on the red carpet right now in Los Angeles at the 69th Annual Emmy Awards.

This year, the competition is fierce. Among the nominees for the best lead actor in a drama series are two Oscar winners, Anthony Hopkins and Kevin Spacey. Among the heavy hitters in the lead dramatic actress category, Viola Davis, Robin Wright, and Elisabeth Moss.

In the numbers game, "Saturday Night Live" and "Westworld" reigned supreme. They tied for the most nominations, 22 in all.

And this week's "Before the Bell" report, the U.S. bull market notches a new title. Here's CNN International Business Anchor and Correspondent Maggie Lake.

MAGGIE LAKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Boris. It's in the record books. This bull market is now the second strongest ever.

The S&P 500 has soared nearly 270 percent since bottoming out during the great recession. That just beats the 1949 bull market, but it's not even close to the 1987 bull market.

At 8 years old, this bull market is also the second longest ever.

This week the Federal Reserve will be a prime focus for investors. Policy makers are not expected to hike interest rates when they meet on Wednesday, but the Central Bank could announce a plan to shrink its $4.5 trillion balance sheet.

Remember, during the recession and its aftermath, the Fed bought trillions in bonds to try to juice the economy. Now, it wants to unwind those purchases.

Wall Street is also eagerly awaiting the outlines of tax reform. The House says it will release a framework next week.

In New York, I'm Maggie Lake.

SANCHEZ: Maggie, thank you for that.

Coming up, the President on a first name basis with two top Democrats. And it turns out the Internet cannot resist Chuck and Nancy either. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[18:57:57] SANCHEZ: Finally this hour, Chuck, Nancy, and the Donald. Jeanne Moos reports on the political lovefest that set the Internet on fire.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: They may not be as big as

Elvis or Cher, but these two have also reached one name status.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chuck and Nancy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chuck and Nancy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Known hereafter as Chuck and Nancy.

MOOS: Known hereafter, after President Trump referred to Democratic leaders, Schumer and Pelosi, as if they were buddies.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Chuck and Nancy would like to see something happen, and so do I.

MOOS: Something happened, all right.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: To please his friends, Chuck and Nancy.

MOOS: Chuck and Nancy became a thing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chuck and Nancy deal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With his friends, Chuck and Nancy.

RUSH LIMBAUGH, HOST, THE RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW: With, quote/unquote, Chuck and Nancy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Chuck and Nancy show.

MOOS: Chuck was caught on a hot mic in the Senate talking about the President.

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: He likes us. He likes me anyway.

MOOS: Chuck and Nancy inspired a disloyal boyfriend meme, Trump looking wistfully at Chuck and Nancy while ignoring his main squeeze, Republican leaders, Mitch and Paul. Same meme but with faces swapped.

Chuck and Nancy has even been used as a verb, as in, maybe if at GOP calls him daddy, they won't get Chuck and Nancied again.

President Trump hasn't always been quite so chummy about Chuck and Nancy. He's called him "crying Chuck Schumer" and "head clown." As for Nancy?

TRUMP: I think she's incompetent actually.

MOOS: Chuck and Nancy have likewise slammed the President's actions.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Despicable act of political cowardice.

SCHUMER: It was heartless and it was brainless.

MOOS: Speaking of brainless, Chuck and Nancy sounds a little like a ventriloquist act.

DAVID STRASSMAN, VENTRILOQUIST: What do you want this time, Chuck?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to be a real boy.

MOOS: And, by the way, how come Chuck always gets to go before Nancy? We fixed that with a little re-edit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Nancy and Chuck show.

MOOS: Actually, the President himself opted for ladies first in person.

TRUMP: Thank you very much, Nancy, Chuck.

[19:00:00] MOOS: The question is, whose pulling the strings?

STRASSMAN: Chuck, I'm warning you.

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: It is the top of the hour --