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Innocent Child Killed by Own Parent; Tonya Harding Playing as a Victim. Aired 6-8p ET

Aired January 09, 2018 - 18:00   ET

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[18:00:00] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST, HLN: Good evening. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. It is 6 o`clock Eastern and these are your headlines.

Health officials in Utah warning people tonight about a possible Hep-A outbreak from a 7-Eleven store in Sal Lake County. They say that upwards of

2,000 people, 2,000 may have been exposed to Hep-A because a worker infected may have handled items in the store. A 7-Eleven has since been

sanitized but recent customers are being advised to get a preventative injection.

Alabama took down UGA last night in a college championship game layered with some stunning moments from President Trump`s appearance for the

national anthem where some say it appeared he forgot the words to the 41- yard overtime touch down film by a freshman quarterback late in the game at half time.

There was even an on-field proposal by one of the players after the game. It looks like she said yes.

Breitbart announced just hours ago that Steve Bannon is stepping down. Former White House strategist turned executive chairman recently under fire

for comments he was said to have made about the president in the bombshell book "Fire and Fury."

Former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio has announced today that he`s running for U.S. Senate. He says it is for, quote, "one unwavering reason to support

the agenda and policies of the president, Donald Trump, and his mission to make America great again," end quote.

The president pardoned the immigration maverick, you`ll remember, that was back in the summertime, after he was convicted for criminal contempt for

racially profiling Latino people.

North and South Korea are continuing to make nice. Officials they are meeting face-to-face today for the first time in over two years. North

Korea agreed to send teams to the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang next month and to talk to Seoul about easing military tensions. So, big movements

there.

Mudslides caused by a rainstorm in Southern California, have already taken the lives of five people, as thousands are ordered to evacuate their homes

just weeks after wildfires wreaked havoc on their communities.

And we have breaking news for you tonight. A young couple is charged with murder, their alleged victim unthinkable. A 4-year-old baby girl who bears

a remarkable resemblance to another tiny murder victim, Casey Anthony`s daughter, Caylee Anthony.

I want to show you Gabby Barrett, 4 years old, and it is hard not to notice the uncanny similarities to Caylee Anthony. You`ll remember that Caylee was

just two years old when she was murdered in Florida back in `08. Her mother Casey was tried and acquitted of her murder.

Gabby`s mother Candice Diaz and her boyfriend Brad Fields went on the run right before family members found Candice`s daughter near death inside

their trailer home on New Year`s Day. All of this happening near Detroit, Michigan. Gabby was found clinging to life with obvious signs of horrible

abuse. And tonight Gabby is dead.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just wanted to hold her one last time. Like, it was so hard like to hear being gone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was an angel to me, she meant the world to me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Gabby`s mother, Candice and her habitual offender boyfriend are now facing charges of murder, child abuse and even torture after taking off

on the road in a black Chevy cavalier. But tonight, they`ve been arrested a thousand miles away from their home and away from that crime scene.

Zahra Huber is a reporter with WWJ Newsradio 950. She joins me from Detroit, Michigan.

Zahra, can you tell me a little bit about how they found this little girl? What condition was Gabby in?

ZAHRA HUBER, REPORTER, WWJ, NEWSRADIO 950: From what I understand, I mean, this was a terrible, terrible tragedy. Apparently, somebody from inside the

mobile park where Gabby lived called 911. Police got there, they found Gabby unresponsive, family members, it`s not clear who, but family members

were performing CPR on the young 4-year-old.

She had severe burns all over her body, and again, she was unresponsive. She was taken to the hospital where she died. Two days later, the medical

examiner, he ruled her death as a homicide. And he said that there was evidence of multiple traumatic injuries and signs of battered child

syndrome, with multiple injuries on multiple sites through different ages.

So you can you see that, you know, she has probably lived a horrific life in this house with her mother and her mother`s boyfriend.

BANFIELD: You know, I`m looking at her face, and she just looks so angelic.

(CROSSTALK)

HUBER: Like an angel.

[18:04:56] BANFIELD: I can`t stop thinking. I mean, honestly -- but I cannot stop thinking about the resemblance to Caylee Anthony. And I think

that`s part of the reason why the Casey Anthony saga was so intense and was so pervasive throughout culture, because the pictures of Caylee. I mean,

it`s really hard to tell the difference between these two.

The pictures of Caylee just broke into the hearts of millions across America. And here is Gabby Barrett. When you say that she was found with

these injuries, it was characterized as scalding burns. I don`t know if you have any further information, was she -- do we know if she was scalded with

water. Do we know if there was there an implement used? Do we know anything about how she received these injuries?

HUBER: The police department is actually staying quite mum on this right now, I think because they`re still -- it`s pretty early in this

investigation. But what they are just continuously saying, like you said, scalding burns. They were severe burns all over her body. All over her, I

mean, he arms, legs. Just all over her.

So, I mean, I can imagine that it might have been water, and not a tool being used, but of course, they`re not releasing all those details just

yet.

BANFIELD: Zahra, do we know if they left her for dead? It`s such a confusing crime scene because there were family members found doing CPR

when the police arrived. But mother, Candice, and boyfriend Brad had gone on the run and they were on the run for the better part of, I think at

least 24 hours, maybe even more. Maybe clear that up for me. Did they leave her for dead or what were the circumstances?

HUBER: It definitely sounds like they left her for dead because they were already gone by the time police were there. It`s not clear if family

members maybe were coming to check on them, or neighbors maybe called the family, again, they`re not releasing those details. But when police did

arrive, both Candice and her boyfriend were nowhere to be seen. It`s believed that they were actually already on the run.

BANFIELD: And now just doing the math again, this was New Year`s Day, I mean, they`ve been on the run for a good week plus.

HUBER: Yes. Over a week.

BANFIELD: So do we know anything about the odyssey, I know they`ve been captured in the last couple of hours 950 miles away. Do we know anything

about what they did in those days that they were missing?

HUBER: No, again, they`re staying very mum about the details of this investigation, but it sounds like they just started to head south. They

were caught in Lake Park, Georgia, very close to the Florida line.

From what I understand tips definitely helped in this case, police told me, that actually through a local tip in that city, police saw and spotted the

two coming out of the rest area and in conjunction with the U.S. Marshal service they arrested the two coming out of that area.

So it sounds like perhaps they were -- they were believed to be in the metro Detroit area a few days after this happened, and then as soon as the

U.S. Marshalls got involved it sounded like they actually left the state. So they probably just started to head south hoping to get away from police.

BANFIELD: So how long did that little girl survive as those two were on the run? Do we have any idea how long she was in that home suffering?

HUBER: I believe she was living there -- do you mean the day that it happened or just her whole life? Because she was living there her whole

entire life from what I understand. Her birth father did not have custody of her, but he was allowed to visit her.

But if you`re referring to the actual where she was clinging to life, I understand that she was in that home and then when she was taken to the

hospital she was pronounced dead almost just hours later.

BANFIELD: So we have no idea how long she had been in that tortured state by herself with her mother and the mother`s boyfriend on the run heading

south to Georgia. We don`t know how long that little girl was in that condition, we only know that she was found near death on New Year`s Day,

correct?

HUBER: Yes, in the morning, at 10.45 in the morning on New Year`s Day.

BANFIELD: I do understand that they were able to very quickly name the mother, is that just because she was absent? Or did they have some really

good evidence that they were able to collect immediately?

HUBER: I think they were very quickly able to name the mother and her boyfriend because they were not there, they were not presents, and I`m sure

by talking to family members and maybe witnesses, and, you know, I`m sure you guys know too, that there was a police report involving the two of them

knowing that this home was just horrific. So, I`m sure police immediately put the two and two together and realized that the parents were most likely

responsible for this.

BANFIELD: So let`s talk a little bit about that. The police report I think you`re referring to, something happened in 2016. There was an incident at

this home, in which Candice called the police on her boyfriend Brad, saying that Brad had assaulted her, saying that Brad shot her dog, saying that

Brad shot himself in the leg, it turned out he faked that, it was a fake injury. Apparently he used ketchup or something to make it look like he had

been shot in the leg.

[18:09:56] But the neighbors had a lot to say about the frenzy that that mobile home park was in when this happened.

Have a look at this interview that was taken with a neighbor back in the 2016 incident?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They evacuated the whole street, and the man was inside the house with guns, and SWAT came in and he ended up not being there, and

he was on the run for a while.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So that`s a neighbor talking about how the SWAT members were involved. Yet, apparently Candice decided she didn`t want to go forward and

help in any prosecution, she claimed the guns that they found in the home were hers, they were illegal. So she faced charges for that, they also

found blank prescription, you know, forms, which she was also charged with, yet she still not only had that little child Gabby, you know, in her home,

but the two of them had another child together.

Zahra, do you know anything about their baby, there`s a second child in play here, who is not dead, and we don`t know if that child is injured. We

don`t know the age of that child, all we know is that CPS now has this infant child between the two of these culprits.

HUBER: Yes, at the time of that police report that you just mentioned, that child was not born yet, so it sounds like she was actually -- Candice was

actually pregnant with that child. I`m not sure if it`s a girl or a boy. But from what I do understand, the child is one year old now. Was not

injured, but was taken from the home, from CPS.

BANFIELD: It`s difficult to believe they had custody of their own baby and of Gabby.

Let me just go over of some of the things that one I got. I think you`ve seen the list, but I just want to read over the items that were found in

the home, when they went through that whole distress call and the dog was shot, Candice called the police.

There were the two guns, there was also a stun gun. A bag with knives. Crack and marijuana pipes, Xanex, hydrocodone. And this is what the police

noted in their report. Let me just read what the officers who responded to this home said about it.

"The smell in the house was quite foul due to old garbage, decaying food, unclean dishes, dog urine on the living room floor. Dog feces in in the

children`s room, a rabbit with unchanged wood shaving and general uncleanliness. There were flies of all sorts in the air throughout the

house."

Do we know if the condition of that house changed at all, when they came in to find Gabby in the condition that she was in this time around?

HUBER: I was reading a little bit from other media sites as well who talked to her father, her biological father, who said that he knew the conditions

weren`t, quote, unquote, "great in the house," but he didn`t think that anything bad would ever happen to his daughter. So it didn`t sound like

things got much better in the home since then.

BANFIELD: Clearly, sounds like they got much worse. Don`t go anywhere. I want to bring in CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant

director Tom Fuentes who joins me now live from Fairfax, Virginia.

Tom, it is always hard to talk about cases like these, and we know that they don`t happen in a vacuum. But honestly, you just heard about the

incident in 2016. You heard what the home was like in 2016. Yet, this couple had another baby, and this couple had, you know, Gabby living with

them as well.

How does that happen? How can they be involved in criminal activity like they were, living in the conditions of filth like they were, and still

continue to have custody of two little kids, one of them now dead?

TOM FUENTES, LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST, CNN: Ashleigh, there are people on this earth that are just trash. They live like that, they have no regard

for anybody around them, including their own children. So my question in that isn`t how the parents or the mother and her boyfriend could be so

horrible.

That`s -- you know, we encounter that all the time in law enforcement. What astounds me is that when the police went into that trailer, found those

conditions, knowing a young child was there, why that child wasn`t removed and turned over immediately to the Child Protective Services, whatever that

organization might be in the state of Michigan. So that`s what I don`t understand, is how is that child allowed, how did the police leave those

premises and just let it go and not protect that child.

BANFIELD: It`s unbelievable. It`s unbelievable. Real quickly, I want to bring in defense attorney Parag Shah who joins me live as well now. Parag,

I just want to go over that list of charges that this pair is facing.

Homicide, felony, murder. Homicide, murder, second degree child abuse, first degree, and torture. And all I can think, Parag, is that when you get

in front of a jury, and you show pictures of little Gabby Barrett, and she looks just like Caylee Anthony. That is not going to be lost in the jury

and neither is the headline - torture. It does not bode well for anyone facing charges like this.

PARAG SHAH, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I completely agree with you. I think the only saving grace that these defendants have is that Michigan does not have the

death penalty, which means the most severe penalty they can face is life without parole. And you know, that`s probably the best that`s going to

happen in this situation.

[18:15:00] And one thing about second degree murder. They don`t have to prove that it`s premeditated. Second degree murder means that the act was

done recklessly. So simply the fact of being more than just a bad parent.

BANFIELD: Yes.

SHAH: This is being more than just a bad parent but being reckless and disregarding her life is what the crime is here.

BANFIELD: I still can`t get over these pictures and how much she reminds me of Caylee Anthony, I actually had to separate the pictures because at times

I couldn`t tell the difference.

My thanks to all of my guests. I want to move on. Tonya Harding she is back in the headlines, hailed as a hero by Hollywood. But then lashing out at

Piers Morgan on live TV, is she a victim or a villain? Or is she the best comeback story ever?

[18:20:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: She was everywhere for all the wrong reasons. Tonya Harding became a national headline, and then a national punch line. For her role in

the 1994 attack on her Olympic skating rival Nancy Kerrigan. Her life has spiraled downwards ever since amid the culture that has vilified her.

But now, a new movie and an ANC special have catapulted Tonya back into the news. And just may be changing what some people think of her.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TONYA HARDING, SKATER: I was the best figure skater in the world at one point in time.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You call that a clean skate? Stop talking to her. That girl is your enemy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who is that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jeff was my first date ever. And my mom came.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to see a wholesome American family.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t have a wholesome American family.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: The movie is a sympathetic look at the very hard life of abuse and rejection that Tonya endured before. The notorious assault that got her

kicked out of skating. She always maintained that she knew nothing in advance at a plot to attack Nancy Kerrigan and eliminate her from

competition, that it was the half-witted conspiracy of her husband, her ex- husband and three others. But then came this jaw-dropping admission on ABC last week.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I knew that something was up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You never said to Jeff let`s do this?

HARDING: No. I did however, overhear them talking about stuff where, well, maybe we should take somebody out, so we can make sure she gets on the

team. I go, what are you talking about?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Well, what the hell, indeed. The clig lights have been all over Tonya, including a front row seat at Sunday night`s Golden Globe. A little

tour down the red carpet and a nod from the stage by actress Allison Janney who played her mom in the movie.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALLISON JANNEY, ACTRESS: Tonya Harding is here tonight and I just some...

(APPLAUSE)

I`d like to thank Tonya for sharing her story with Steve and allowing him to tell all the different sides of the story. And what I love about this

movie what this entire Sebastian, Julian, everyone in this movie did is tell a story about a class in America. Tell a story about the

disenfranchised. Tell a story about a woman who was not embraced for her individuality. Tell a story about truth and the perception of truth in the

media.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But with the return to the spotlight comes the hard questions, especially from Piers Morgan on his morning show, ITV`s Good Morning

Britain where Tonya nearly walked off the set.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HARDING: I respect you for trying to ask these questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

HARDING: However, I`m really here just to talk about the future and what it means.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.

HARDING: My movie now, to me is going to help so many people to realize that it is OK to ask for help. It took me so long to be able to ask for

someone to help me.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tonya, let me just interrupt you for a moment. Do you think...

HARDING: That`s why I`m here speaking to you today.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe it suits you to play the victim. But the victim in all this wasn`t you, it was Nancy Kerrigan, who had her Olympic dream

shattered quite literally in her legs.

HARDING: We -- I believe that we all -- thank you so much, I appreciate being on your show, but I think I`m going to have to say, have a good

night.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So it looked like she was going to leave, but she didn`t. At least not at that moment anyway.

I want to bring in CNN`s sports analyst and USA Today sports columnist Christine Brennan. She was there at the U.S. national in 1994 when Nancy

Kerrigan was attacked. Also I want to bring in Jennifer Peros, an editor for Us Weekly.

Ladies, thank you so much for being here. Christine, first to you. I`m getting a little lost in the whole narrative of Tonya. I`m getting the

push-pull of watching the film "I, Tonya" which is unbelievably good. And then seeing Tonya kind of playing the victim again. And I need you to get

me on track. Where should we be with Tonya Harding?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, SPORTS ANALYST, CNN: They talked for some time, they knuckle heads around Tonya including her live in ex-husband, Ashleigh. They

talked about killing Nancy Kerrigan. You don`t see that in the movie. In the movie it`s a letter writing campaign to scare her, maybe send her death

threats.

But they actually, these idiots talked about killing Nancy Kerrigan. And the idea that were all giggling and laughing, yes, there were ridiculous

moments in the movie, there were ridiculous moments in the story 24 years ago. I covered every second of it every preposterous second.

[18:25:00] But the idea that now Tonya is some kind of victim or some type of -- being rehabilitated by Hollywood, it is absolutely ridiculous. Tonya

Harding said, as you guys just of course alluded to, she said on ABC that she knew something was up. And she didn`t stop it.

And to think that at the Golden Globes where they`re talking about Me Too and the assault of women, that Allison Janney is up there actually thanking

someone who was involved in the assault on Nancy Kerrigan.

And the only reason we can laugh about this story so many years later, is because this was the gang that couldn`t shoot straight, and this, the hit

man, the so-called hit man actually missed Nancy Kerrigan`s knee cap and he hit her on the knee, on the side of the knee. Bruised her, and it was the

most famous bruise in the history of sports and Nancy was able to recover and win the silver medal.

If they had done their job properly, this would have been a horror story. And the idea that Tonya is now being celebrated is just absolutely

ridiculous.

BANFIELD: So this is -- all comes back to this, you know, the movie lionizing her and then the ABC interview where she -- for whatever, I don`t

know why, kind of let`s that slip out that she`d overheard them talking in advance that maybe they take somebody out, what the hell she said. I want

to like butt that up to, the full question about, did she know?

Because Piers Morgan asked specifically, so, did you know? And here is her very definitive answer, have a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PIERS MORGAN, HOST, ABC NEWS: You did know? You did know what they were planning to do, didn`t you?

HARDING: No, I did not know anything prior. I did find out after the fact.

MORGAN: You didn`t have any knowledge at all, like by pure coincidence this guy you`ve been married to...

(CROSSTALK)

HARDING: No, I did not.

MORGAN: ... was going to attack Nancy Kerrigan. OK.

HARDING: No, I did not.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: And Christine, that has been the answer for 24 years. So my question is this, she plead guilty to the after the fact, cleaning up the

mess, you know, she has done her time. She was kicked at skating forever. Why is it that invariably anyone you talk to involved in skating and

involved in sports is 100 percent convinced that she knew in advance?

BRENNAN: Because she was in the same house and basically the same kitchen table where they were planning this fiasco of a plan. And also, a key

moment which you do see in the movie is where she`s calling a judge to get the location where Nancy trained. That`s where this silly -- it`s called

Tony Kent arena on Cape Cod is where Nancy Kerrigan trained.

And Tonya ridiculously wrote down Toony can arena which is a laugh-out-loud moment. It`s real.

But why was Tonya getting the location? Again, the movie has you thinking they`re going to write letters. Well, then and totally confusing you if

you`re trying to get the facts in this movie, is then you`ve got the hit man of course going to Tony Kent arena, and driving around and moving his

car in the parking lot, which is again very funny.

But the point of that is, the hit man was there to attack Nancy Kerrigan. And Tonya Harding absolutely got the address and gave it to Jeff Gillooly

so that hit man could go that...

(CROSSTALK)

BANFIELD: And those notes were found. And if I remember correctly were found in the trash can and they were Tonya Harding`s handwriting in the

arena.

BRENNAN: Yes.

BANFIELD: And not only that. The practice time for Nancy Kerrigan, in Tonya Harding`s handwriting. So there seemed to be so much evidence of a

collusion. And yet, she didn`t get convicted of that, she plead to, you know, obstructing afterwards.

Let me bring up this one moment. Because it all sort of falls back on Hollywood now. A quarter century later, as to how they`re narrating this

story for the under 35s. And there`s this one moment I think that stood out about how nasty Tonya`s mother was, which is why Allison Janney won that

award because she was unbelievable in the role.

But this is a scene that I think really nails it down for how crappy Tonya`s life was leading up to this assault. Have a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you -- when I was a kid, did you ever love me or anything?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You think Sonja Henie`s mother loved her? Poor (muted) you. I didn`t stay home making apple brown betties, no. I made you a

champion, knowing you would hate me for it. That`s the sacrifice a mother makes. I wish I had a mother like me instead a nice, nice gets a shit. I

didn`t like my mother either so why I (muted) gave you a gift.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You cursed me. You`re a monster.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Spilled milk, baby.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Jennifer, I`m trying to figure out where Hollywood may have gone off track with this. Because it is clear Tonya`s life was the pit. And

that`s good to know because it does give us the retrospective and some contacts for what happened. But what happened happened and that doesn`t go

away. I`m feeling as though the movie is making it go away, am I wrong?

JENNIFER PEROS, EDITOR, U.S. WEEKLY: No, absolutely not. Listen, this movie was just one-sided, right? We know from many people involved to the film

that they did not have Nancy or her team`s cooperation with the story. They did not help with the movie. So, really, this movie is just one-sided,

right? We don`t hear from both sides.

Also, I mean, listen, a lot of people are calling this movie fictional. It was a well done movie and it`s a great performance of course by Margot

Robbie and Allison Janney. It was of course nominated for BAFTA Award, but, yes, I do think it is a little strange how you have these actresses now

doing the international press tour praising Tonya Harding.

BANFIELD: The red carpet felt weird.

PEROS: I actually -- I did not know that Tonya was going to be there. And the second I saw her on pre-show, I thought, wow, they actually brought her

here to this night? It`s such a historic Golden Globes night where like Christine said earlier, you have women standing next to women protesting

against harassment and abuse and violence in Hollywood, and here she is on the carpet.

BANFIELD: It`s weirder because of what she just accidentally said to ABC last week. When I heard something in advance, which really put her into the

conspiracy, which doesn`t give her the benefit of what the movie suggests. I knew nothing, I heard nothing. This happened outside of my purview.

So to see her sort of walk up in the red carpet and then (INAUDIBLE), like I said, the glow of Allison Janney`s comments, I get what Allison Janney

was saying, I get it.

PEROS: I do too.

BANFIELD: But to direct them at Tonya and give her this moment, I just -- I think I`m with Christine on this, it made me feel a little sick. By the

way, what`s Nancy`s reaction? Anything? Is it like cricket?

PEROS: So I literally had e-mailed her team an hour before I came here tonight just for even one more comment. She has not issued any statement on

this whatsoever. I heard from a source close to Nancy about two months ago, the week that the movie came out, you know, I asked them, has she seen the

movie yet? Is she planning on seeing the movie yet?

The answer as of that day was no. I don`t know for a fact if she`s seen it yet. I doubt she probably will. I agree, especially considering that

Allison Janney has a minute total to stand up there for her acceptance speech.

BANFIELD: She could say anything.

PEROS: She could say anything. She could thank anybody from her family, her teammates. She spent so long just praising Tonya for being so brave, for

sharing her side of the story. And then again, to see Margot and Allison doing all the press tour, thanking Tonya for sharing her story and kind of

doing her a favor --

BANFIELD: I like the story. I always knew she was tough. She was the tough underdog. To celebrate her in this way is really uncomfortable. I do want

to mention this which I find really fascinating. Apparently Tonya is on the ice, she says, every week still trying to keep in shape. She has been

banned from skating.

Christine, if you`re still with me, can you answer me on this question real quick? Is there anyway that she could have her lifetime ban reversed? If

she could find a sympathetic judge somewhere, could that happen?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN SPORTS ANALYST: No, because it was U.S. Figure Skating that banned her, and rightly so. She brought the worst scandal in

the history of the sport into the sport. She brought --

BANFIELD: Movie or no movie.

BRENNAN: Absolutely. And also, she`s 47 years old, she`s --

BANFIELD: She could coach.

BRENNAN: And by the way, she can coach. She skated in a Reno minor league hockey game. She couldn`t do sanctioned events. She can absolutely skate

and no one is interested, of course, otherwise they would have had --

BANFIELD: I`m interested.

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: I am so fascinated by this story still. Thank you to both of you, Jennifer and Christine, I appreciate it.

BRENNAN: Thank you.

PEROS: Thanks.

BANFIELD: A frantic 911 call from the mom of a missing 2-week-old infant.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): What`s the emergency.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): I just woke up, my daughter woke me up from the couch. I have a 2-year-old and I have a 2-week-old. And my 2-week-

old is not in her sleeper. Her passy is on the floor.

BANFIELD (voice-over): But that baby is not missing. That baby was found. In a bag in the woods. And police are trying to figure out now who killed

that newborn.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[18:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Caliyah McNabb was a preemie. She only weighs five pounds when she was born, but man, was she cute. She was just 15 days old when her mom

made a call to 911 saying that that newborn baby girl had just vanished.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Newton County 911. What`s the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): I just woke up, my daughter woke me up from the couch. I have a 2-year-old and I have a 2-week-old. And my 2-week-

old is not in her sleeper. Her passy is on the floor.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): She`s not in her sleeper?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): She`s not in her sleeper. She`s not here. I looked everywhere. I looked in her clothes and everything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): The only thing that`s missing is her and her blanket?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): You didn`t talk to the dad or her grandma or anybody else?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Her dad was here with me. Dad just left and he`s walking around the park looking for her. Because my 2-year-old

said -- I asked her did somebody come in and take her and she said yes, but I -- you know, she`s two, so I don`t know if I could prove that or not.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Did you look through everything, like under the bed?

[18:40:00] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Yes, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): In bathroom?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Yes, ma`am.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: It took hours for police to find little Caliyah, but they did not find her alive. She had been beaten in the head, and she had been buried in

the woods behind her family`s mobile home in Georgia. Again, she was only 15 days old.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): What would you tell whoever did it?

TIM BELL, GRANDFATHER OF BABY: That you`re going to hell. That`s where you`re going. Killing a young like that, something that little and tiny and

defenseless, you are going to hell.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Tonight that desperate grandfather knows who may have killed his granddaughter, because that little girl`s dad, this man, reportedly took

off running on foot, the moment the police found the baby`s body. And now both mom and dad are charged with the murder of Caliyah. Mom is looking at

decades in prison. Dad is potentially facing the death penalty tonight.

Tina Douglas is an anchor and reporter for News Radio 106.7, and she joins me live from Atlanta. Tina it is hard to believe a 15-day-old baby could

have suffered the kinds of things that that baby is reported to have suffered. Take me back to the 911 call, was that the first clue that police

had that something wasn`t right in this story?

TINA DOUGLAS, ANCHOR AND REPORTER, NEWS RADIO 106.7: From what we understand, it is. The story was kind of hard to believe initially because,

you know, a 2-week-old baby just doesn`t get up in the middle of the night and walk out the door.

And there were apparently no signs of any forced entry or anything like that. And another telling sign to me after listening to the 911 call was

how matter of fact the mother sounded.

BANFIELD: Matter of fact and there was something else, Tina. I don`t know if you noticed it, but I sure noticed it. While the mother, Courtney Bell,

is on the 911 call, she`s yelling out loud for her newborn --

DOUGLAS: Yes.

BANFIELD: As though the newborn might be a toddler who could respond. I mean, think about it for a minute. A 15-day-old baby --

DOUGLAS: Right.

BANFIELD: -- can barely even respond to a pacifier being put in her mouth, let alone calling out her name, like, Caliyah, are you there?

DOUGLAS: Right.

BANFIELD: And yet this mother calls out her name as though she`s looking for her around the house. Have a listen to what it sounded like. I want the

audience to be the judge. Take a listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): OK, you said you were sleeping and woke up and she was gone?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Yes. My 2-year-old came and woke me up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): OK.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): I was asleep on the couch.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): OK.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Caliyah!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): How old is she, ma`am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Two weeks old.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: Again, that`s not the only time that Courtney Bell called out for her 15-day-old newborn to possibly respond. I don`t want to get in the mind

of a mother who may have lost her baby or a mother who has no idea what`s going on, but it did seem odd. And I wonder if the police are having those

whisper rumors around their office as well.

DOUGLAS: Well, I`m sure that they, you know, looked at that and listened to that. That is odd for a mother to be calling out a 2-week-old baby, who

really can`t respond to her. And just the story itself, the dots just didn`t connect with a lot of what her and her boyfriend were telling

authorities about what happened that night.

BANFIELD: So about 24 hours later, Tina, they actually found this baby behind the home?

DOUGLAS: Right.

BANFIELD: What was the condition? What did they actually find?

DOUGLAS: The baby was inside a cloth bag. I don`t think it had really started the decomposition, but there was some there. And her boyfriend, Mr.

McNabb, I guess, once he realized that they had found the child, he was on the run.

BANFIELD: So real quickly, let me bring in Parag Shah, defense attorney, author of "The Code." Parag, it took several months for them to charge mom.

Why this discrepancy in terms of when to charge dad and when to charge mom? It would seem that you have the evidence right there in front of you. Dad

has bolted and mom has that very telling 911 call.

PARAG SHAH, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think part of it is that they still don`t know what happened in terms of who caused what. They know there`s

blunt force trauma to the back of the head, but we don`t know how it happened. The dad, it`s a lot easier because flight is the consciousness of

guilt.

The mother, they charged with second-degree murder. In Georgia, what that is, if there is criminal negligence with how you`re handling the child. So,

she`s charged differently than the husband.

BANFIELD: That husband, well, a father, anyway, you show up in front of a jury with a face full of tattoos like that,

[18:45:00] it doesn`t bode well. People have actually begged for judges to give them make-up to cover up tattoos in their clients because it just

doesn`t look good and a trial is a show.

Parag, I am going to ask you to hold right there. Thanks to Tina Douglas as well.

A dog owner is in the doghouse tonight after police officer find a dog cowering in the trunk of his car.

[18:50:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Imagine you`re standing at a car wash, and a guy pulls up next to you and asks if you want to buy a dog, 25 bucks. That`s what police say

this guy, James Combs, did the other night, just north of Columbus, Ohio.

But the officer say he didn`t stop there. When said dog jumped out of his car, witnesses say Combs punched and kicked the pit bull and then someone

reported him to the police.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): He came up and he rolled down his window and he as like, do you -- dog for sale, 25 bucks. I said I don`t have 25

bucks. He was like I`m going to go and shoot her.

Well then as he went like to get change for like his money, the dog jumped out. And as the dog tried to run, he chased the dog down. And then grabbed

by the leash and was like throwing him up against his car and stuff like that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Poor little guy. Police caught up with him a short time later and this is what happened when James was pulled over. All of it was caught on

the officer`s dash cam.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got a report of you abusing a dog.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): She bit me, my dog, she`s in the trunk. I`m taking her home now. I wasn`t abusing her, I just put her in the trunk.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Keep your hands on your steering wheel. Here is the deal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): I wasn`t abusing her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s not what we were told. We are told that you were going to try to sell it. If you didn`t sell it, you`ll take it home to

shoot it. And then you threw it against and then you kicked it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): I didn`t kick at it. I did tell a guy I would sell her to him. I was just mad though. I didn`t hurt her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything else in the car?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): No, not at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why does it smell like weed coming from your car? Do you let other people smoke? Do you smoke?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The dog`s in the trunk?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know what animal cruelty is?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Yes, but I`m not being cruel to her. It`s for my protection. I didn`t kick her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was an attempt there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): I knew I wasn`t going to hit her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He might come back to get her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He might come back.

BANFIELD (voice-over): So, that little girl was taken to a local shelter. We are told that the puppy dog is doing OK, according to reports. James

Combs on the other hand has been charged with two counts of animal cruelty. Police say he had just bought that dog four days prior, and claims that he

was trying to give her back to the person that he had bought her from.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: I want to bring in Parag Shah, defense attorney. So here`s the thing. Even if they can`t get him on the whole kicking and the witnesses

seeing that other business, they found a dog in the trunk of a car. Please tell me that it`s enough for an animal cruelty charge?

SHAH: Well, in Ohio, it`s whether you transport it in a cruel or inhumane manner. And I think it could be argued that putting the dog in a trunk

where they don`t have any air, it`s cold outside, that`s an inhumane way to transport a dog. The last thing I will say in his defense, he could say,

look, she tried to bite me, I couldn`t put her in the car, there was nowhere else for me to put her to transport her back.

BANFIELD: Yes, if I`m the police officers, well, she seemed awfully sweet to us as we opened the trunk, didn`t try to bite us, and wouldn`t we be the

most scary things with the bright light, opening up with these dark vests and hats, but, no, she didn`t. she seemed awfully sweet. Parag, thank you

for that. I`m going to just cut it off there because I hate those stories, just hate them.

All right, I want you to take an icy street and then some awesome snow bank. Pair of skis and a car. What could possibly go wrong?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD (voice-over): Yes, that will get you on the show "jackass." The police are actually now looking for these thrill seeking skiers for real.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[18:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: One more thing for you tonight. People who get around town on skis after a huge snowstorm. That`s not such an unusual sight, but someone

being pulled by a car down the street on skis. Now, that is something pretty weird.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, yes.

BANFIELD (voice-over): I wouldn`t say oh, yes. Oh, no. Police in New Hampshire are looking for this daring duo because even though it seemed

like a good idea at the time, and it always does, this is actually against the law, folks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can tell you if that`s something an officer observed, the driver would be cited for that, it`s not an arrestable offense, but

clearly there`s reckless operation.

[19:00:00] BANFIELD (voice-over): Plus, it`s dumb.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: And it hurts. Yes, like, that skier actually could have been seriously injured, but we don`t know.

Straight ahead, a Michigan mother and her boyfriend are charged in the torture and death of a 4-year-old girl who bears an uncanny resemblance to

a famous murder victim in Florida, Caylee Anthony.

The next hour of "CRIME AND JUSTICE" starts right now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An adorable little girl dead on New Year`s Day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wanted to hold her one last time.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: With a remarkable resemblance to Caylee Anthony.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The way she died is just unbearable.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Left for dead, her mom and boyfriend go on the run.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who could do such a thing to a 4-year-old child?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s crazy that something like this could happen so close.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We take you into their house of horrors.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She says she has been misunderstood for decades.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People don`t seem to understand what I was going through.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But is Tonya Harding playing the victim.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The victim in all of this wasn`t you, it was Nancy Kerrigan.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who was on thin ice now, the interviewer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nancy Kerrigan was the victim. She was the one that was abused.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Or the interviewee?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I appreciate being on your show. But I think I`m going to have to say, have a good night.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just 15 days old and gone without a trace.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have clothes and totes. But I have looked in them and she is not here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then her beaten little body is found in the wood.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Killing a human like that, something that little and tiny and defenseless. You are going to hell.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dad is arrested for murder.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All to him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But now Mom is behind bars too, months after making this call.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is not here. I looked everywhere. I have looked under clothes and everything.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: Hello, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. Welcome to the second hour of "CRIME AND JUSTICE."

We are going to begin this hour with breaking news. A young couple in custody after a desperate nationwide manhunt. Candace Diaz and Brad Fields

captured tonight. About 1,000 miles from home. Police say they are responsible for the murder of Candace` little daughter, an adorable 4-year-

old girl named Gabby, who bears an unbelievable resemblance to Caylee Anthony.

You will remember Caylee Anthony was just two years old when she was killed in Florida back in 2008. Her mother, Casey, beat the rap on her murder

charge.

Little Gabby was found dying on New Year`s Day in her home. It was a Michigan mobile home. She was found with multiple injuries and multiple

burns. And this is not her mother`s or her mother`s boyfriend`s first run in with the law or his first time running from it.

Police were called to their home two years ago over an incident of domestic abuse where they have discovered guns and drugs and a home that rich of

garbage.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They evacuated the whole street. And the man was inside the house with guns. And SWAT came in. He ended up not being there. And he

was on the run for a while.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Tonight, Diaz and Fields are both being charged with murder. They are both being charged with child abuse and torture. The very people who

were responsible for Gabby`s well-being now facing charges in her murder.

Zahra Huber is the reporter with WWJ news radio 950. She joins me live from Detroit, Michigan tonight.

Zahra, what were the circumstances in which they found little Gabby?

ZAHRA HUBER, REPORTER, WWJ NEWSRADIO 950 (on the phone): Unfortunately they found her like you said on January 1st. Severe burns all over her body, is

what police told us. She was unconscious, unresponsive when they found her. They took her to the hospital where she did die.

Now unfortunately, the medical examiner who did rule her, Gabrielle Barrett, death as murder. And he said that there was evidence of multiple

traumatic injuries and signs of battered child syndrome, with multiple injuries on different sites throughout her ages.

BANFIELD: And so, yes. Battered child syndrome means this wasn`t the first bought of abuse that this little baby girl had gone through all through her

four years apparently. She had at some point suffered some kind of trauma, some kind of abuse.

But what I`m trying to get my head around here Zahra is, was she just left for dead? Was she just left in this situation with these severe burns and

this couple just made a run for it, left her for dead?

HUBER: That is what it absolutely sound like because when police got there, I mean, the parents, the mother and her boyfriend were nowhere in sight.

Now this man, Brad Field is not a father. This is just the mother`s boyfriend who was living with them at the time. And it sounds like they did

leave her for dead. Maybe they called the family and said, hey, you in need to come check on little Gabby. And then when the family got there, they

were nowhere to be found and they started to perform CPR on the young girl. And she was taken to the hospital where she died.

[19:05:26] BANFIELD: And let me just tell you real quickly, Zahra. We are just seeing brand new pictures into us. These are live. They are coming to

these new shots. They look like they may have been taken in the back of a cruiser. But they come from the police department in Sumter Township.

That`s just outside of Detroit.

What you are seeing right now is Brad Fields and Candace Diaz. We are guessing this is shortly after their arrest or at some time being processed

after their arrest. But there they are.

And then this whole notion that they have been on the run since New Year`s Day. They covered some 950 miles. They were found in Georgia. Any idea what

they did along the way and if anybody helped them?

HUBER: It`s not clear if anybody helped them or where they stopped. I know that police were getting a lot of tips in this case. And they were looking

for them in the metro Detroit area just days after their disappearance and after Gabby`s death. And the U.S. Marshall Service recently actually got

involved, along with the Michigan state police detectives to help out. And that`s when they captured them in Georgia, near Lake Park Georgia which is

by the Florida line, which is, like you said, almost a thousand miles from the Detroit area. They are along 75. And through a tip, from what I

understand, local police actually spotted them coming out of a rest area in that area. And in conjunction with the U.S. Marshall`s service they were

able to arrest the two.

BANFIELD: So they were brought - and I`m guessing that they maybe are still in custody in Georgia. There will be some kind of an extradition plan for

them to come back to the Detroit area.

But before we even get to this extradition and the charges they are facing now, the living conditions for Gabby Barrett age four were unbelievable.

They were just deplorable. If any indication comes from an incident back in 2016. This couple lived in squalor and filth. It was a dangerous

environment with drugs and guns.

How was this child living like this with apparently another baby, the natural born between the two of them? Between Candace and Brad. They had a

1-year-old apparently as well as the custody of Gabby.

HUBER: Absolutely, yes. They have an infant who is actually now in child protective services custody. I believe they are investigating that. How

they were both living in these conditions like you said, I mean, these were horrific dirty, dangerous conditions that these two young children were

living in. And right now, child protective services does not have a comment to the media. I`m sure they are investigating and trying to figure out what

happened. Why these two children were even allowed to be in that home. Like you said, in that police report, they detail what officers encountered when

they walked into that home on -- when they were responding to a domestic assault.

BANFIELD: I mean, just deplorable. Feces in the children`s room, urine all over the carpet, rotting garbage, guns, drugs, all sorts of things. Just as

horrifying.

We have some new breaking news coming into us from the sheriff right of Lowndes County in Georgia, presumably, the sheriff in the jurisdiction

where this pair was brought in. This is Sheriff Ashley Paulk. I want to have a listen to what he had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ASHLEY PAULK, LOWNDES COUNTY SHERIFF: You captured people nationwide before, but to me, it`s one of the worst crimes you can ever see against

the child. I mean, a 4-year-old child beaten to death, I mean, these people need to be in jail. They need to be sentenced to life in prison or need to

be, you know, possibly get the death penalty.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Well, that is a possibility as well, although quite frankly, in Michigan, there isn`t a death penalty, is there? I have to check on that.

But I think there is?

HUBER: No.

BANFIELD: No. But he can`t - that`s right. No matter what happens, they can`t get death penalty in Michigan. And that`s the jurisdiction where this

charge will be adjudicated.

Quickly Zahra, do you have any idea of the circumstances by which they captured these two? Was it violent? Did they give themselves up freely? How

did they catch them?

HUBER: Well, they were spotted. They were spotted by some local people and the police were there at the rest area. From what I understand they were

taken in without any incident. I`m not clear of any of the details surrounding their arrest. But I do know that a lot of it helped from the

public`s tip. I mean, like you said, this was a nationwide search. This was sent out to everybody, every state, all the police departments, the U.S.

Marshalls were involved. Our state police department was involved. Everybody was on the lookout for these two and this horrific case for this

poor young girl, who sounds like she was beat to death, burns to death. Hopefully there will be justice.

[19:10:09] BANFIELD: A girl who I cannot stop thinking about Caylee Anthony because when the pictures first came in, I thought these were pictures of

Caylee. I actually had to get someone to put side bring sides with names on them, so I could differentiate between Caylee and Gabby.

It is uncanny the similarities between these two toddlers. If you look at them, I dare say you would have a difficult time deciphering the difference

between them as well. And you know, both of these children, Caylee was two, Gabby was four, suffered horrible injustice. Both of them dying. Caylee was

thought for quite some time, dying at the hands of her mother. But Casey was acquitted that have murder. Gabby will be seeking justice in other

ways. Obviously, her mother now facing extraordinary charges. Homicide related, felony murder. Second degree, child abuse first degree, torture.

Brad also charged as a habitual offender. I mean, the charges of this pair for the death of this little innocent angel.

I just want -- it defies logic how anyone could do this to a baby. But then you think of the child`s father, Kyle Barrett. And you know, Kyle Barrett

is dealing with a hell of a loss today as well. Knowing full well he will never see his baby again. And that the mother of this baby is going to be

up on charges because of that murder. Have a listen to what Kyle had to say and how described little Gabby.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KYLE BARRETT, FATHER OF THE VICTIM: I just wanted to hold her one last time. Like it was so hard her being gone.

She was an angel to me, she meant the world to me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: That angel was living in unbearable conditions.

I just want to read for you, if I can, some of the items that were found in the home, back on May 20th, 2016 when Candace called in a domestic incident

against that boyfriend of hers. Both of them now arrested. But she called in an incident against Brad. This is what they found in the home at that

time. Sig Sauer .40 Cal, Smith and Wesson .38 Cal, a stungun, a bag of knives in it. Oh, yes, and then there was the crack and the marijuana pipes

as well as the Xanax and the hydrocodone.

And if that`s not enough of a list for you. Let me read what the police who responded had in their report as they described the scene that they came

upon in the house. And this is the house that Gabby was living in.

The smell in the house was quite foul due to old garbage, decaying food, un-cleaned dishes, dog urine on the living room floor, dog feces in the

children`s room, a rabbit with unchanged wood shavings and general uncleanliness. There were flies of all sorts in the air throughout the

house.

I want to bring in Tom Fuentes, if I can. He is the CNN senior law enforcement analyst and also former FBI assistant director. Tom joins me

now from Fairfax, Virginia.

You read about these conditions. You hear about this former incident. And you hear that little gabby had another sibling, about a 1-year-old child

living in that home with her, who is now in the custody of cps. You wonder how those kids, after the scare we had in 2016, how those kids could have

been in that home. And now how Gabby`s dead.

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Ashleigh, when I talk about these kind of stories, I try to maintain my composure, not get emotional, try to

be objective. But this story makes me so angry, I can`t stand it. How could the authorities, how could the police go in that trailer, find those

conditions, and then write a report reflecting those conditions and somehow that child is allowed to remain.

You know, if the two adult scumbags want to live together in that kind of squalor, that`s their business. But to endanger a child and have the

authorities become aware of the fact that a child is living there, and in danger and somehow the child remains, is not taken away. I don`t get it. I

don`t understand it. I would like to hear more about what happened to allow that to occur.

BANFIELD: And let`s not forget, Gabby wasn`t just living in that squalor. Gabby was dying in that squalor as well.

Real quickly, Parang Shan, defense attorney. When you hear torture as part of a charge and you see a face like that, if this ever gets before a jury,

what would a jury think? What would a jury do? What would a jury say to a mother and her boyfriend?

PARANG SHAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think a jury would be overcome with emotion, and it would be hard for them to not find them guilty. I mean,

it`s very difficult. And like you said Michigan does not have the death penalty, so they are looking at life without parole. And it would be hard

for a jury not to give them that.

BANFIELD: Boy, I will bet. I mean, look at this. We are talking about little Gabby Barrett, four years old, breathed her last breath on New

Year`s Day, 2018. Candace Diaz, 24 years old. Brad Fields, 28 years old. Both facing charges including felony murder child abuse, first degree

torture. And brad is charged as a habitual offender.

My thanks to all my guests.

Tonya Harding back in the headlines. Hails as a hero by Hollywood, but then lashing out at piers Morgan on live TV. Is she a victim, a villain, or is

Tonya the best comeback story ever.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:20:05] BANFIELD: She was everywhere for all the wrong reasons. Tonya Harding became a national headline, and then a national punch line for her

role in the 1994 attack on her Olympic skating rival Nancy Kerrigan. Her life has spiraled downwards ever since. Amid a culture that has vilified

her. But now, a new movie and an ABC special have catapulted Tonya back into the news. And just may be changing what some people think of her.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was the best figure skater in the world at one point in time.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You call that a clean skate? Stop talking to her. That girl is your enemy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who is that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jeff was my first date ever. And my mom came.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You need to see a wholesome American family.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t have a wholesome American family.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: The movie is a sympathetic look at the very hard life of abuse and rejection that Tonya endured before the notorious assault that got her

kicked out of skating. She always maintained that she knew nothing in advance of a plot to attack Nancy Kerrigan and eliminate her from

completion. That it was the half-witted conspiracy between her husband, her ex-husband and three others. But then came this jaw dropping admission on

ABC last week.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TONYA HARDING, FORMER SKATER: I knew something was up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You never said to Jeff let`s do this?

HARDING: No, I did however overhear them talking about stuff, well, maybe we should take somebody out, so we can make sure she gets on the team. I

go, what the hell are you talking about?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Well, what the hell, indeed? The cling lights have been all over Tonya including a front row seat at Sunday night`s Golden Globes. Little

tour down the red carpet and a nod from the stage by actress Allison Janney who played her mom in the movie.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALLISON JANNEY, ACTRESS: Tonya Harding is here tonight. And I just -- I`d like to thank Tonya for sharing her story with Steve and allowing him to

tell all the different sides of the story, and what I love about this movie. What this entire Sebastian, Julian, everyone in this movie did, is

tell a story about class in America. Tell a story about the disenfranchised. Tell a story about woman who was not embraced for her

individuality. Tell a story about truth, and the perception of truth in the media.

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BANFIELD: But with the return to the spotlight comes the hard questions, especially from Piers Morgan on his morning show, iTV`s "Good Morning

Britain" where Tonya nearly walked off the set.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HARDING: I respect you for trying to ask these questions. However, I`m really here just to talk about the future and what it means -- my movie

now, to me is going to help so many people to realize that it is OK to ask for help. It took me so long to be able to ask for someone to help me.

PIERS MORGAN, TV ANCHOR, GOOD MORNING BRITAIN: Tonya, let me interrupt you for a moment.

HARDING: That`s why I`m here speaking to you today.

MORGAN: Maybe it suits you to play the victim. The victim in all this wasn`t you. It was Nancy Kerrigan, who had her Olympic dream shattered.

Quite literally.

HARDING: I believe we all -- thank you so much. I appreciate being on your show, but I think I`m going to have to say, have a good night.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So it looked like she was going to leave, but she didn`t. At least not at that moment anyway.

I want to bring in CNN sports analyst and "USA Today" sports columnist Christine Brennan. She was there at the U.S. nationals in 1994 when Nancy

Kerrigan was attacked. Also I want to bring in Jennifer Peros, an editor for "Us Weekly."

Ladies, thank you so much for being here.

Christine, first to you. I`m getting a little lost in the whole narrative of Tonya. I`m getting the push pull of watching the film. Tonya, which is

unbelievably good. And then seeing Tonya kind of playing the victim again. And I need you to get me on track. Where should we be with Tonya Harding?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN SPORTS ANALYST: They talked for some time, the knuckle heads around Tonya, including her knuckle head ex-husband,

Ashleigh. They talked about killing Nancy Kerrigan. You don`t see that in the movie. In the movie it`s a letter writing campaign to scare her. Maybe

send her death threats. But they actually -- these idiots talked about killing Nancy Kerrigan.

And the idea that were all giggling and laughing, yes, there were ridiculous moments in the movie. There were ridiculous moments in the

story, 24 years ago. I covered every second of this, every preposterous second. But the idea that now Tonya is some kind of victim or some type of

-- being rehabilitated by Hollywood, it is absolutely ridiculous.

Tonya Harding said, as you guys of course just alluded to, she said on ABC that she knew something was up. And she didn`t stop it to think. And at

same time the Golden Globes where they are talking about #metoo and the assault of women, that Allison Janney is up there actually thanking someone

who was involved in the assault on Nancy Kerrigan, and the only reason we can laugh about this story so many years later, is because this was the

gang that couldn`t shoot straight, and the hit man, the so-called hit man, Ashleigh, missed Nancy Kerrigan`s kneecap, and hit her on the knee, on the

side of the knee, and bruised her knee, the most famous bruise in the history of sports. And Nancy was able to recover and win the silver medal.

If they had done their job properly, this would have been a horror story. And the idea that Tonya is now being celebrated is just absolutely

ridiculous.

[19:25:44] BANFIELD: So this all comes back to this, you know, the movie lionizing her and then the ABC interview where she -- for whatever, I don`t

know why, kind of let`s that slip out that she overheard her them talking in advance. That maybe they would take somebody else. What the hell, she

said.

I want to like butt that up to -- the full question, did she snow? Because Piers Morgan asked specifically, so did you know? And here is her very

definitive answer. Have a look.

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MORGAN: You did know? You did know what they were planning to know, didn`t you?

HARDING: No, I did not know anything prior. I did find out after the fact.

MORGAN: You didn`t have any knowledge at all, by pure coincidence this guy you had been married to was going to attack Nancy Kerrigan?

HARDING: No. Not prior.

MORGAN: OK.

HARDING: No, I did not.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: And Christine, that has been the answer for 24 years. So my question is this. She plead guilty to the after the fact, cleaning up the

mess, you know. She has done her time. She was kicked out of the skating forever. Why is it that (INAUDIBLE), anyone you talk to involved in skating

and involved in sports is 100 percent convinced that she knew in advance?

BRENNAN: Because she was in the same house and basically the same kitchen table where they were planning this fiasco of a plan. And also, a key

moment which you do see in the movie is where she is calling a judge to get the location where Nancy trained. And that`s where this silly -- called

Tony Kent arena on Cape Cod is where Nancy Kerrigan trained. And Tonya ridiculously wrote down toony can arena which is a laugh out loud moment,

it`s real.

But why was Tonya getting the location, again, the movie has you thinking they are going to write letters. Well, then, in totally confusing you, if

you are trying to get the facts in this movie, is then you have the hit man, of course, going to Tony Kent Arena and driving around and moving his

car in the parking lot, which is again, very funny.

But the point of that is, the hit man was there to attack Nancy Kerrigan. And Tonya Harding absolutely got the address and gave it to Jeff Gillooly

so that the hit man could go.

BANFIELD: Those notes were found, if I remember correctly. Those notes were found in the trash can and they were Tonya Harding`s handwriting, the

arena. And not only that. The practice time for Nancy Kerrigan in Tonya Harding`s handwriting. So there were seemed to be so much evidence of

collusion. And yet, she didn`t get convicted of that. She plead to, you know, obstructing afterwards.

Let me just bring up this one moment. Because it all sort of falls back on Hollywood now. A quarter century later, as to how they are narrating this

story for the under 35s. And there is this one moment I think that stood out, about how nasty Tonya`s mother was which is why Allison Janney won

that award. She was unbelievable in the role. But this is a scene that I think really nails it down for how crappy Tonya`s life was leading up to

this assault. Have a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you -- when I was a kid, did you ever love me or anything?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You think Sonja Henie`s mother loved her? Poor (bleep) you. I didn`t stay home making apple brown Bettys, no. I made you a

champion, knowing you would hate me for it. That`s the sacrifice a mother makes. I wish I had a mother like me instead of nice. Nice gets you shit. I

didn`t like my mother either. So what? I gave you a gift.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You cursed me. You are a monster.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Spilled milk, baby.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Jennifer, I`m trying to figure out where Hollywood may have gone off track with this. Because it is clear Tonya`s life was the pits. And

that is good to know because it does gives us retrospective and some context for what happened.

But what happened, happened. And that doesn`t go away. But I`m feeling is though the movie is making it go away. Am I wrong?

JENNIFER PEROS, EDITOR, US WEEKLY: No, absolutely not. Listen. This movie was just one sided, right? We know from many people sponsored the film that

they did not have Nancy or her team`s cooperation with the story. They did not help with the movie. So really, this movie is just one sided, right. We

don`t hear from both sides. And also, I mean, listen, a lot of people are calling this movie fictional, it was a well-done movie. And it`s a great

performance by, of course, Margot Robbie and Allison Janney. It was, of course, nominated for five BAFTA Awards. But, yes, I do think it is a

little strange how you have all these actresses now doing the international press tour praising Tonya Harding.

ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HLN HOST: The red carpet felt weird.

PEROS: I actually -- I did not know that Tonya was going to be there. And the second that I saw her on a pre-show, and I was like, wow! They actually

brought her here to this night, such an historic Golden Globes night, where like Christine said earlier, you have women standing next to women

protesting against harassment and abuse and violence in Hollywood. And here she is on the carpet.

BANFIELD: It got even weirder because of what she just accidentally said to ABC last week. Well, I heard something in advance, which really put her

into the conspiracy, which doesn`t give her the benefit of what the movie suggests, I knew nothing, I heard nothing. This happened outside of my

purview. So, to see her sort of walk up on the red carpet, and then bask in the -- like I said, the glow of Allison Janney`s comments. I get what

Allison Janney was saying, I get it.

PEROS: I do, too.

BANFIELD: But to direct them at Tonya, and give her this moment, I just -- I think I`m with Christine on this one, it made me feel a little -- it made

me feel a little sick. And by the way, what`s Nancy`s reaction, anything? Is it like crickets?

PEROS: So, I literally had e-mailed her team an hour before I came here tonight. And just for even one more comment, she has not issued any

statement on this whatsoever. I heard from a source close to Nancy about two months ago, the week that the movie that came out. You know, I asked

them, has she seen the movie yet? Is she planning on seeing the movie yet? The answer as of that day was no, I don`t know for a fact if she`s seen it

yet, I doubt she probably will. But, yes, I agree, you know, especially considering that Allison Janney has, what, a minute total to stand up there

for her acceptance speech.

BANFIELD: She could say anything.

PEROS: And she said -- she could say anything, she could thank anybody from her family, her team, and she spent so long just praising Tonya for being

so brave for sharing her side of the story. And then, again, to see Margot and Allison doing all the press around the tour, thanking Tonya for sharing

her story and kind of doing her a favor.

BANFIELD: Yes. I liked her story, I liked -- I always knew she was tough, you know, she was the tough slugging, you know, underdog, but to celebrate

her in this way just is really -- I do want to mention this, which I find really fascinating. Apparently, Tonya is on the ice, she says every week

still trying to keep in shape. She`s been banned from skating. Christine, can you answer -- if you`re still with me, can you answer me this question

real quick, is there any way that she could have her lifetime ban reversed? If she could find a sympathetic judge somewhere? Could that happen?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN SPORTS ANALYST: No, because it was U.S. figure skating that banned her, and rightly so. She brought the worst scandal on

the history of the sport into the sport. She brought it movie or no movie.

BANFIELD: She charged right into it.

BRENNAN: Oh, no, absolutely. And also, she`s 47 years old. So, there`s --

BANFIELD: Well, she could coach.

BRENNAN: Well -- and by the way, she can coach. And she`s been able to -- she skated in a Reno minor league hockey game. And she did have comebacks,

she couldn`t do sanctioned events. She could absolutely skate and no one is interested, of course, otherwise, they already would have had --

BANFIELD: I`m interested. I`m sorry to say, I am so fascinated by this story still. Thank you to both of you, Jennifer and Christine, I appreciate

it.

BRENNAN: Thank you. Thanks.

BANFIELD: A frantic 911 call from the mom of a missing 2-week-old infant.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DISPATCH: What`s the emergency.

COURTNEY BELL, MOTHER OF CALIYAH: I just woke up, my daughter woke me up from the coach. I have a 2-year-old and I have a 2-week-old. And my 2-week-

old is not in her sleeper, her passy is on the floor.

DISPATCH: She`s not in her sleeper.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But that baby is not missing, that baby was found in a bag in the woods. And police are trying to figure out now who killed that newborn.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Caliyah McNabb was a preemie. She only weighed five pounds when she was born but, man, was she cute. She was just 15 days old when her mom

made a call to 911, saying that that the newborn baby girl had just vanished.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DISPATCH: Newton County 911, what`s the emergency?

BELL: I just woke up, my daughter woke me up from the coach. I have a 2- year-old and I have a 2-week-old. And my 2-week-old is not in her sleeper, her passy is on the floor.

DISPATCH: She`s not in her sleeper.

BELL: She`s not in her sleeper. She`s not here. I`ve looked everywhere, I`ve looked in her clothes and everything.

DISPATCH: So, the only thing that`s missing is her and her blanket.

BELL: Yes.

DISPATCH: You didn`t talk to the dad or her grandma or anybody else?

BELL: Her dad was here with me. Dad just left and he`s walking around the park looking for her. Because my 2-year-old said -- I asked her did

somebody come in and take her, she said, yes, but I don`t -- you know, she`s two, so I don`t know if I can prove that or not.

DISPATCH: Did you look through like under the bed, in bathrooms?

BELL: Yes, ma`am. Yes, ma`am.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: It took hours for police to find little Caliyah, but they did not find her alive. She had been beaten in the head and she`d been buried in

the woods behind her family`s mobile home in Georgia. Again, she was only 15 days old.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

[19:40:08] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What would you tell whoever did it?

TIM BELL, GRANDFATHER OF CALIYAH: That you`re going to hell. That`s where you go. Killing a youngin` like that, something that little and tiny and

defenseless, you are going to hell.

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BANFIELD: Tonight, that desperate grandfather knows who may have killed his granddaughter because that little girl`s dad, this man, reportedly took off

running on foot the moment the police found the baby`s body. And now, both mom and dad are charged with the murder of Caliyah. Mom is looking at

decades in prison, dad is potentially facing the death penalty tonight. Tina Douglas is an anchor and reporter for News Radio 106.7 and she joins

me live from Atlanta. Tina, it is hard to believe a 15-day-old baby could have suffered the kinds of things that that baby is reported to have

suffered. Take me back to the 911 call, was that the first clue that police had that something wasn`t right in this story?

TINA DOUGLAS, ANCHOR AND REPORTER, NEWS RADIO 106.7: From what we understand it is, the story was kind of hard to believe, initially,

because, you know, a 2-week-old baby just doesn`t get up in the middle of the night and walk out the door. And there were apparently no signs of any

forced entry or anything like that. And another telling sign, to me, after listening to the 911 call was how matter of fact the mother sounded.

BANFIELD: Matter of fact and there was something else, Tina. I don`t know if you noticed it, but I sure noticed it. While the mother, Courtney Bell

is on the 911 call, she`s yelling out loud for her newborn. As though the newborn might be a toddler who could respond. I mean, think about it for a

minute, a 15-day-old baby can barely even respond to a pacifier being put in her mouth let alone calling out her name, like, Caliyah, are you there?

DOUGLAS: Right.

BANFIELD: And yet, this mother calls out her name as though she`s looking for her around the house. Have a listen to what it sounded like. And I want

the audience to be the judge. Take a listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DISPATCH: OK. And you said you were sleeping, woke up and she was gone?

BELL: Yes.

DISPATCH: My 2-year-old came and woke me up.

BELL: OK. I was asleep on the couch.

DISPATCH: OK.

BELL: Caliyah!

DISPATCH: How old is she, ma`am?

BELL: Two weeks old.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: That`s not the only time that Courtney Bell called out for her 15-day-old newborn to possibly respond. I don`t want to get in the mind of

a mother who may have lost her baby or a mother who has no idea what`s going on, but it did seem odd, and I wonder if the police are having those

whisper rumors around their offices as well.

BELL: Well, I`m sure that they, you know, looked at that and listened to that. And that is odd for a mother to be calling out a 2-week-old baby who

really can`t respond to her. And just the story itself, just the dots just didn`t connect with a lot of what her and her boyfriend were telling

authorities about what happened that night. It`s just --

BANFIELD: So, it was about 24 hours later, Tina, they actually found this baby behind the home.

BELL: Right.

BANFIELD: What were the -- what was the condition, what did they actually find?

BELL: The baby was inside a cloth bag. I don`t think it had really started the decomposition, but there was some there. And her boyfriend, Mr. McNabb,

I guess, once he realized that they had found the child, he was on the run.

BANFIELD: So, real quickly, let me bring in Parag Shah, defense attorney, author of "The Code." Parag, it took -- it took several months for them to

charge mom. Why this discrepancy in terms of when to charge dad, and when to charge mom? It would seem that you have the evidence right there in

front of you. And dad has bolted and mom has that very telling 911 call.

PARAG SHAH, DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND AUTHOR: Well, I think part of it is they still don`t know what happened in terms of who caused what. They know

there`s blunt force trauma to the back of the head. But we don`t know how it happened. The dad, it`s a lot easier because flight is a consciousness

of guilt. The mother they`ve charged with second-degree murder. And in Georgia, what that is, is if there is criminal negligence with how you`re

handling the child. So, she`s charged differently than the husband. And I think --

BANFIELD: But then -- but that hasn`t -- well, father anyway, you show up in front of a jury with a face full of tattoos like that, and it doesn`t

bode well. People have actually begged for judges to give them make-up to cover up tattoos on their clients because it just doesn`t look good, and a

trial is a show. Parag, I`m going to ask you to hold right there. And thanks to Tina Douglas as well.

[19:44:57] A dog owner is in in the doghouse tonight after a police officer finds a dog cowering in the trunk of his car.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Imagine you`re standing at a carwash and a guy pulls up next to you, and asks if you want to buy a dog for 25 bucks. That`s what police say

this guy, James Combs, did the other night, just North of Columbus, Ohio. But the officer say he didn`t stop there. When said dog jumped out of his

car, witnesses say Combs punched and kicked the pitbull and then someone reported him to the police.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He came up and he rolled down his window, and he was like, do you -- dog for sale, 25 bucks. I said I ain`t got 25 bucks. He was

like, I`m going to go over and shoot her. Well then, as he like went to get change for like his money, the dog jumped out, and as the dog tried to run,

he chased the dog down. And then grabbed him by the leash and was like throwing him up against his car and stuff like that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Poor little guy. Police caught up with him a short time later and this is what happened when James was pulled over, all of it was caught on

the officer`s dash cam.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

OFFICER: Got a report of you abusing a dog.

JAMES COMBS, DOG ABUSER: She bit me, man. My dog, she`s in the trunk. I`m taking her home now. I`m not abusing her. I just put her in the trunk.

OFFICER: Keep your hands on the steering wheel for me. Here`s the deal --

COMBS: I wasn`t abusing her.

OFFICER: Well, that`s not what we were told. We`re told that you were going to try to sell it. Hands on the steering wheel for me.

COMBS: I`m not.

OFFICER: You`re trying to sell it. If you didn`t sell it, you`re going to take it home and shoot it, then you threw it against the car and then you

kicked it.

COMBS: I didn`t kick at it. I kick at him, I didn`t kick her. And I did tell a guy, I would sell it to him. I just was mad though. I didn`t hurt

her.

OFFICER: Is there anything else in the car I need to know about?

COMBS: No, not at all.

OFFICER: Why does it smell like weed coming through the (INAUDIBLE)? (INAUDIBLE) other people smoke -- do you smoke?

COMBS: No.

OFFICER: So, the dog is in the trunk, huh?

COMBS: Yes.

OFFICER: Do you know what animal cruelty is?

COMBS: Yes, but I`m not being cruel to it. I`m just --

OFFICER: Kicking and throwing against the car.

COMBS: I didn`t kick her.

OFFICER: Did you try? So, there`s attempt there.

COMBS: Well, I did. I knew I wasn`t going to hit her though.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

OFFICER: He might come back and get it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Might come back. OK. I`ll (INAUDIBLE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So, that little girl was taken to a local shelter. We are told that puppy dog is doing OK according to reports. James Combs, on the other

hand, has been charged with two counts of animal cruelty. Police say he had just bought that dog four days prior and claims that he was trying to give

her back to the person that he had bought her from. I want to bring in Parag Shah, defense attorney. So, here`s the thing, even if they can`t get

him on the whole kicking and the witness seeing that other business, they found a dog in the trunk of a car. Please tell me that is enough for an

animal cruelty charge.

SHAH: Well, in Ohio, it`s whether you transport it in a cruel or inhumane manner, and I think it could be could be argued that putting a dog in the

trunk where they don`t have any air, it`s cold outside that that`s an inhumane way to transport a dog. The last thing I`ll say in his defense, he

could say, look, she tried to bite me, I couldn`t put her in the car, there was nowhere else for me to put her to transport her back, so --

BANFIELD: Yes, and if I`m the police officer, I`d tell him, well, she seemed awfully sweet to us as we opened the trunk, didn`t try to bite us,

and wouldn`t we be the most scary things with the bright light opening up in this dark vest and hat, but nope, she didn`t, she seemed awfully sweet.

Parag, thank you for that. I`m going to just cut it off there because I hate those stories. I just hate them.

All right. I want to take an icy street and then some awesome snow banks, a pair of skis and a car, what could possibly go wrong?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Yes. That will get you on the show "Jackass." The police are actually now looking for these thrill-seeking skiers for reals.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:59:00] BANFIELD: Just "ONE MORE THING" for you tonight, people getting around town on skis right after a big snowstorm, that is not such an

uncommon sight, but a guy on skis being pulled down the street by a car, yes, not so much.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: That had to hurt. Police of course with New Hampshire now looking for this daring duo, because even though it seemed like a good idea at the

time, clearly it isn`t. And hey, it is against the law.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

OFFICER: I can tell you that if that`s something an officer observed, the driver would be cited for that. It`s not an arrestable offense but clearly

this reckless operation.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Reckless, yes. Evidenced there. Not to mention that that skier, by the way, could have been seriously injured, but we don`t know who he is.

Thank you for watching, everybody. We`ll see you right back here tomorrow night at 6:00 Eastern for CRIME & JUSTICE. "FORENSIC FILES" begins right

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