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Teacher Jailed After Criticizing Superintendent's Raise; Report: Wahlberg Paid $1.5 Million, Michelle Williams Paid $1000; Would Talks Between Trump & Kim Jong-Un Korea Be Good Idea; Trump Meeting with Lawmakers a Series of Extraordinary Moments. Aired 2:30- 3p ET
Aired January 10, 2018 - 14:30 ET
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[14:33:38] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: A teacher is shocked that a school superintendent was slated to get a raise while hardworking teachers and cafeteria workers and others like herself are missing out on that. So what does she do? Stood up and spoke out at a school board meeting. Instead of being heard, she was ultimately handcuffed, and the whole thing was captured on video. Watch this.
DEYSHIA HARGRAVE, LOUISIANA TEACHER: You are making our job even more difficult.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Teacher Deyshia Hargrave spoke up during public comments.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: Her issue, the superintendent's new contract.
HARGRAVE: A superintendent or any person in a position of leadership getting any type of raise, I feel like it's a slap in the face to all the teachers, cafeteria workers, or any other support staff we have.
UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: She received a warning, it was public comments only, not a question-and-answer session. Although board officials were answering her questions.
After being called on a second time, that's when a city marshal stepped in.
HARGRAVE: Excuse me.
UNIDENTIFIED CITY MARSHAL: (INAUDIBLE)
HARGRAVE: Is it against policy to stay in?
HARGRAVE: This is the most disgraceful thing. UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hargrave left the meeting, but in the
HARGRAVE: What are you doing? What are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you explain this?
HARGRAVE: What are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED CITY MARSHAL: Stop resisting.
HARGRAVE: I am not resisting. You just pushed me to the floor.
HARGRAVE: I am way smaller than you.
[14:35:07] UNIDENTIFIED CNN CORRESPONDENT: Superintendent Jerome Puyau telling KATC no charges were filed against the teacher. It's unclear if the deputy Marshal was acting on his own accord or was called on to have Hargrave removed.
Her removal did not go unnoticed.
LAURA LEBEOUF, VERMILION PARISH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER: The way this happened tonight and the way females are treated -- (INADUBILE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on.
UNIDENTIFIED VERMILION PARISH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER: I have never seen a man removed from this room. I have never. I have never seen a man removed from this room.
BALDWIN: All right. That teacher was booked into jail and released on bond soon after.
But at least one member of the school board is defending her treatment.
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ANTHONY FONTANA, PRESIDENT, VERMILION PARISH SCHOOL BOARD: She was interrupting the board meeting. She wouldn't allow that to happen in her classroom. A board member was recognized and a board member was getting ready to speak and she cut into them. That's when the officer acted. And I think he acted properly.
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BALDWIN: Let me bring in ladies here, Chloe, Rachel, Angela Rye.
Angela Rye, what was that? ANGELA RYE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: What was that, Brooke? I
mean, it's uncalled for. And all I can think of is what I've been saying since the 2016 election, frankly, and that is what is it coming to? How are folks who are paid by taxpayer dollars, are elected by the people in some instances, and school districts all over the county, how do you get to a point that you don't answer to the people? This is a teacher who is saying we know that we are overworked and under paid and we just want to know why there is room in the budget for you to get a $30,000 increase. What does she do that required, like criminal treatment? What did she do? She literally just asked a question. And in fact the clip that you showed has her making a statement. She is sharing her opinion. And they can decide to respond or not. But nothing about that officer's conduct was OK.
BALDWIN: Yes. You know, Rachel, there was a woman in the piece who said, I've never seen a man dragged out of here in this particular parish. And I also am wondering in the last however months would she have said that, would she felt she could speak up --
BALDWIN: -- everything that's been going on, you know?
RACHEL SKLAR, COLUMNIST, CHANGE THE RATIO: It absolutely fits that, too. And you know she was a woman speaking up. And you heard the gentleman defending the action saying she was interrupting. Women -- you know, the crazy thing about it is that she was completely in order. She had been called on. She was speaking. She was recognized within the process governing that proceeding.
BALDWIN: But his perception was interruption.
SKLAR: How dare she question and challenge.
CHLOE MELAS, CNN ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER: Yet, she kept her composure entire time until she was handcuffed.
I wanted to talk to you, switching gears off of this Louisiana teacher, about Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams, and this movie had to do the reshoots because of Kevin Spacey and Christopher Plummer and the incredible difference in the money the two made.
MELAS: I know. This shocking story from "USA Today" comes in the midst, Brooke, of this "Me Too" movement. Two of Hollywood's biggest stars went back to reshoot "All the Money in the World," because Kevin Spacey, after our story at CNN broke, was recast. So they go back to reshoot these scenes.
BALDWIN: Like 10 days-worth of reshoots.
MELAS: Yes, in November. And turns out, Mark Wahlberg reportedly $1.5 million to shoot this and Michelle Williams made less than 1 percent of that. Comes down to, Brooke, $1,000 reportedly. That comes up to about $80 a day. Now, they are both ironically represented by the same talent agency.
MELAS: We are not sure who negotiated these contracts. We are not saying Mark knew that he was making more or Michelle knew what was going on.
BALDWIN: But Scott saying we are not taking a lot of money.
MELAS: -- nobody was getting paid, so we are not sure, again, why this happened the way that it did. We don't have all the details this is a report from "USA Today." We've reached out to their reps and haven't heard back. But this pay gap adds to the conversation as to what is going on. Michelle Williams, Golden Globes winner, she definitely deserves to be making just as much as Mark. But again, we don't know how many scenes were shot, whether or not she just had --
SKLAR: That is how this is going to be parsed out, and people are going to say, well, he had a better agent. Enough. There should not be such a divergence between the market rate for what a man does and the market rate for what a woman does. Like that's the pay gap, is a different pay structure for men and women doing the same thing. This is a very clear and very instructive example of that.
[14:40:09] MELAS: It is ironic that no one has commented yet. And this has erupted in the last few hours on social media coming to her defense.
MELAS: She hasn't said anything, and it's strange Mark hasn't either.
BALDWIN: I think of other Hollywood actresses on the red carpet on Sunday at the Golden Globes, bringing up the E! host in her dream job, up for negotiation, and finds out he made double.
BALDWIN: She said dues to E!, because that's not OK.
Angela Rye, to you, how do we, I mean, women, how do we improve this? Also, what we make is one of the few taboo things. We don't talk about it, but it seems like we should be.
RYE: We absolutely should be, Brooke. And part of the only way that we'll ever solve the gender pay gap is by being transparent with what we make. Whether for me what I make as a CNN commentator or my contracts with clients when I get to do special projects with other networks, I'm absolutely about sharing what I make so it can empower other people, not just here, but other networks, not just with my clients but with other spaces of political strategists doing the work, speaking engagements, what are we getting paid to do this work. And how are you justifying those disparities. It is time out for that. Our voices matter just as much as men. Our voices matter just as much as the majority if we are black and brown people or indigenous people in this country or Asian folks. It all matters. And we have to be accountable for it. It's time for all of it. Time is up for this mess. That's where I am.
BALDWIN: Angela Rye, thank you so much.
Thank you so much. Rachel Sklar, Chloe Melas, thank you so much ladies, all of you.
Next, here on CNN, South Korea's president is creating President Trump for getting North Korea to the negotiating table. And President Trump just weighed in on where the talks go next. Christiane Amanpour, live, next.
[14:46:21] BALDWIN: President Trump today suggesting the U.S. may be open to talking with North Korea under the right circumstances, a potential step towards resolving the crisis over the rogue nation's nuclear weapons. This comes as South Korea credits Trump for this week's landmark talks between North and South Korea, the first in more than two years.
Here is President Trump describing his 30-minute phone call today with South Korea's leader, President Moon.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I just spoke to President Moon. He's very thankful for what we've done. They are having talks with North Korea. We'll see how that happens. He felt that the original, that the initial talk was extremely good, had a lot of good comment. It was so reported today, that we were the ones -- without us our attitude, who knows if that would have happened. Who knows where it leads. Hopefully, it will lead to success for the world, not just for our country, but for the world.
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BALDWIN: Here is the leader of South Korea, President Moon, lavishing praise on President Trump.
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MOON JAE-IN, KOREAN PRESIDENT (through translation): I think President Trump made a huge contribution to make the Korean talks happen. I'd like to express my gratitude.
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BALDWIN: Christiane Amanpour is here, our chief international correspondent and host of "AMANPOUR." Always a treat getting you.
What do you make of the fact that President Moon is heaping so much praise on President Trump?
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: First and foremost, this is good news that the presidents of North and South Korea are talking. It is obvious that strong allies are going to want to give each other credit for helping come to this place. And President Moon is being very pragmatic and diplomatic. And actually pretty real in saying, yes, this united strong front that we had with the United States has potentially caused North Korea to come and talk to us. So he did the right thing. He thanked his ally. President Trump thanked President Moon. And what are they are doing is not just being nice but being pragmatic and showing North Korea in a way they cannot drive a wedge between America and South Korea. That's very, very important.
But also, remember, that President Trump had cast dispersions against President Moon. But now is an important moment and important to see the United States and South Korea together. And to hear President Trump say that United States would also have talks with North Korea under the right circumstances in the right conditions, very important.
BALDWIN: What's the risk and reward for that?
AMANPOUR: There is it always a risk. The risk is the talks happen without all the requisite preposition, that they happen just to happen. That can't happen. They have to be talks with specific choreography, with a specific set of guidelines, aims and what they want to get to, what the finish line is.
The other risk -- and this is really important to internalize -- is that the United States shouldn't look at negotiations, if it ever gets to that point, as zero endgame. In other words --
BALDWIN: With the North.
[14:49:36] AMANPOUR: Right. For us to come up some sort of compromise, doesn't mean North Korea has to lose. Because right now we are in a situation where, because of decades of inability to get this situation corralled, North Korea, for all intents and purposes is a fledgling nuclear power with dozens of nuclear devices, with a very advanced intercontinental ballistic missile technology and with the potential to reach areas of the United States. The U.S. cannot allow this to stand. Cannot allow North Korea to threaten it. How do you get to a point where you can have a deal that has to be win-win, just like the Iran deal was? The United States tried for a long time to think that it could just beat Iran into submission. It couldn't. But tough sanctions brought them to the table. But that was important. But the negotiation has to be win-win. And for some people, it's unattainable. So we'll see how it goes if it gets to that point. Now it's important that at least the North and the South are talking.
BALDWIN: Christiane, thank you very much.
AMANPOUR: You're welcome.
BALDWIN: Appreciate it.
Minutes from now, by the way, President Trump will take questions as part of his joint news conference with the prime minister of Norway. This, as a major deal is looming on DREAMers and immigration. We'll take it live coming up on CNN.
[14:55:23] BALDWIN: It was an extraordinarily meeting with a series of extraordinary moments. The president allowing the media to hang out during negotiations with lawmakers over immigration and the fate of DREAMers. But we went over to the raw tape and we found the key back and forth with the crucial facial expressions that illustrated your branches of government in action. Check it out.
TRUMP: This was an idea I had last week. I was sitting with some of our great Republican Senators and we all agreed on everything. And I say let's have the same meeting but let's add the Democrats.
BALDWIN (voice-over): First, President Trump sets the stage by touting familiar themes.
TRUMP: We have greatly stiffened, as you know, and they are not giving you best names, people you don't want.
BALDWIN: Democrats draw their line politely.
UNIDENTIFIED CONGRESSMAN: Thanks, Mr. President for inviting us. We are all honored to be here.
BALDWIN: But careful to drop a key word.
UNIDENTIFIED CONGRESSMAN: Combination of the future of DACA as well as border security.
BALDWIN: Then a rare occurrence. The president tells the media stay a while.
TRUMP: So maybe the press can stay for a little while.
BALDWIN: And they did. A long while.
Then another rare moment. Talk of compromise? Apparently, no matter what.
TRUMP: If they come to me with things I'm not in love with, I'll do it.
BALDWIN: He then gets effusive praise from a former critic.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: I don't think I see a better chance to get it done than I do right now because of you. You have created an opportunity here, Mr. President, and you need to
close the deal.
BALDWIN: President then takes it a step further.
TRUMP: If we do this properly, DACA, you are not so far away from comprehensive immigration reform.
BALDWIN: The Democrat whip doesn't seem to like that line of thinking.
REP. STENY HOYER, (D-MD), HOUSE WHIP: There are some things that you are proposing that are going to be very controversial and will be impediment to agreement.
TRUMP: But you'll negotiate those things. You'll sit down and say, listen, we can't agree here, we'll give you half of that.
BALDWIN: Are we seeing the "Art of the Deal" in action?
TRUMP: I don't care. I'll take all the heat you want to give me. I'll take all the heat off the Democrats and Republicans. My whole life has been heat.
BALDWIN: But then, the key moment.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, (D), CALIFORNIA: I'd like to ask the question, what about a clean DACA bill now.
TRUMP: I have no problem. I this that's basically what Dick is saying. We are going to come up with DACA, do DACA, and then start immediately on the phase two, which would be comprehensive.
BALDWIN: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY, (R-CA), HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Mr. President, you need to be clear though. I think what Senator Feinstein is asking here, when we talk about just DACA, we don't want to be back here two years later. You have to have security, as the secretary would tell you.
TRUMP: But I think that's what she's saying.
MCCARTHY: No, I think she's saying something different.
BALDWIN: Then a serious idea from the president that gets some laughs.
TRUMP: Maybe all of you should think about a form of going back to earmarks. Because this system --
BALDWIN: The president gets nostalgic about deals over dinner. TRUMP: You can say what you want about certain presidents and others,
where they all talk about they went out to dinner at night and all got along and passed bills. When was the last time you took a Republican to dinner? Why don't you go out and have dinner today?
UNIDENTIFIED CONGRESSMAN: We can usually get bipartisan when the other guy buys.
BALDWIN: Lindsey Graham, he'll drink to that.
With dinner plans in motion, time to wrap.
But what's a Trump photo op without a little shade to a political enemy.
TRUMP: Oprah would be a lot of fun.
BALDWIN: And as president is escorted out.
TRUMP: I hope we gave you enough material.
BALDWIN: Yes, Mr. President, so much material let's do it again.
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This is CNN special coverage of President Trump first official joint news conference of 2018 at the White House. He will share the podium with the leader of Norway, key NATO ally that shares a border with Russia. And as the president opens himself up to more questions, Trump set the record straight about where he stands on his border wall. Many were doubting his position after the bipartisan talks yesterday around that same table that the media got with some pretty unprecedented access. Cameras caught 55 minutes of freewheeling, frank talks to lawmakers of both parties who were trying to solve the dilemma over DREAMers. They are these 700,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as kids.
So at his first cabinet meeting of the year today, President Trump was unequivocal that any legislation on DREAMers, also known as DACA, must be tied to his border wall.
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TRUMP: We agreed to pursue four major areas yesterday of reform, securing our border --