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NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): A big round of applause in Pyongyang as North Korean leader Kim Jong-un welcomes South Korean pop stars.
Also a moving caravan of migrants, all with a message for the U.S. president.
And closed schools in several U.S. states as teachers take a stand over their low pay.
These stories are all ahead here on CNN NEWSROOM this hour. I'm Natalie Allen. Thanks so much for joining us.
ALLEN: We begin with carrot and stick diplomacy on the Korean Peninsula. South Korean artists gave a landmark concert in North Korea Sunday. They even had a very special guest: North Korean leader Kim Jong-un attended and was seen clapping at the event.
State media report he even took photos and shook hands with the performers. But while the pop stars hit notes, U.S. and South Korean troops were hitting targets. They have kicked off annual war games similar to these past drills that you are seeing here from last year.
The military drills are shorter this year and they come ahead of a North and South Korean summit set for later this month. For what all this means for Korean diplomacy, let's bring in CNN's Alexandra Field. She joins me now live from Seoul.
These are certainly interesting times, hopeful times between South and North Korea and for the world that matter, Alexandra.
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right you see the images of that concert. It may seem like just a concert but really it is a significant step forward because South Korean performers have not taking the stage in North Korea for more than 10 years.
So this really is representative of the moment that we're seeing here on the peninsula, which is about a thawing of relations, a very different place we're in now than the one that we were in about six months or a year ago, when you saw tensions reaching a fever pitch really.
This weekend you had these South Korean performers putting on this show with Kim Jong-un in the audience. He applauds along with the show. He clearly looks pleased by it. We understand that he even met with these performers offstage afterward and thanked then, went on to say that he hoped for a similar exchange to happen in Seoul, perhaps sometime in the autumn.
No plans underway for that at the moment. But what is underway are these annual exercises between the U.S. and South Korea. Those kicked off this weekend. Those are drills that typically enrage Pyongyang. They object to those drills. We usually see them taking some provocative actions at this time.
But this year Kim Jong-un has said that if he realizes that these drills are going to go on and so far it has not derailed the kind of diplomatic developments that we've seen coming at a very quick clip.
In fact, we've got a summit that is planned now between North Korea and South Korea that will take place at the end of the month. In order to protect sort of the climate and the conditions that have made that possible, you've got spokespeople for the U.S. forces here in South Korea, who say that there might not be much media access to these drills, if any at all.
So far members of the press have not been invited to shoot video of these drills, which is something that we would typically do and that is all really about making sure that the atmosphere is right for this summit to go forward at the end of the month.
There was also another move made by the U.S. and South Korea which was to delay the start of these drills so that it would not coincide with the Olympics or disrupt the Olympics that took place in South Korea.
And, Natalie, as you pointed out, these drills just lasting a month this year. Last year they were two years (sic). That means that they should finish up around the time that North Korea and South Korea are having that summit.
And certainly it would seem that they would wrap up before we could see a potential sitdown between Kim Jong-un and President Trump possibly as early as May. Major developments really coming quickly out here -- Natalie.
ALLEN: Absolutely. It is the nonetheless astounding isn't it, Alexandra, so very hopeful. Thanks so much.
U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted he no longer supports a legislative compromise to protect undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. The president also criticized U.S. Democrats and Mexican leaders over border security.
Mr. Trump seems to have been angered by a so-called caravan of immigrants marching right now through Mexico toward the U.S. Our Leyla Santiago reports from Mexico City.
LEYLA SANTIAGO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: More than 1,000 people are making their way north as part of the Via Cruces here in Mexico. It's something that happens every year during Holy Week. Many see it as sort of a pilgrimage or a religion march.
But it's become so symbolic that others use it as a way to make a statement. For this group in particular, they started marching on the southern border of Mexico right there with Guatemala.
And they are headed north as they make statements about immigration as well as the conditions in their home countries. Many of these Central Americans from Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala. And they want people to know they are fleeing violence and poverty --
SANTIAGO: -- from their home countries.
So the plan, according to organizers, many of them will end up at the U.S.-Mexico border and some of them will be seeking asylum when they do so.
Of course, this is something that President Trump tweeted about and said that he is not happy with that and in response, the Mexican government has also issued an official statement through the foreign minister.
He said every day Mexico and the U.S. work together on migration throughout the region. That's clearly reflected. An inaccurate news report should not serve to question this strong cooperation upholding human dignity and life is not at odds with the rule of law.
And he adds, "Happy Easter."
Now the people that are on this march say that this will be taking several more days. Right now they are near the Oaxaca area and it could be several days before they make it to the U.S.-Mexico border -- Leyla Santiago, CNN, Mexico City.
ALLEN: Let's explore this with our political commentators and get both sides on this issue here. Democratic strategist Dave Jacobson and Republican consultant John Thomas joining us from Los Angeles.
Thanks, guys, for being with us. Well, apparently a caravan of asylum seekers set the president off, calling his angry tweets. He's ready as a result to end DACA, threatened to do the same to NAFTA.
Is this rhetoric or is this real?
Let us start with you, Dave.
DAVE JACOBSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think the president's being reckless and heartless on the day of Easter. The reality is over 90 percent Americans, poll after poll, support a DACA deal.
They believe that these folks should either be able to continue the DACA system or perhaps with a pathway to citizenship moving forward. And that's why Republicans in Congress like Lindsey Graham had worked with Dick Durbin, a Democrat in the Senate, to put forward a plan and cut a deal with the president.
At the end of the day, it's the president who has refused time and again to cut a deal and move forward on this. The most reckless and it looks like he's irresponsible.
ALLEN: John, let's get your feedback and first I want to read a tweet from former presidential candidate and Republican governor John Kasich, who kind of mirrors what you just said, Dave.
"A true leader preserves and offers hope, doesn't take hope from innocent children who call America home. Remember today is Easter Sunday."
John, your take on this.
JOHN THOMAS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Today isn't a matter of compassion, it's a matter of law. The matter border security and what we're seeing with these over 1,000 migrants just literally breaking American immigration law and they know that if they can come in and get through our borders that they can get through perhaps that catch and release program.
And the president was right in that they think that it can be part of this DACA deal. And what that means and what they're hoping is, number one, in the catch and release program, they won't show up to their -- in front of the judge to be deported. So that happens I think over 90 percent of the time. They just illegally stay in the U.S.
And the other is in part of a DACA deal could have been chain migration, meaning if some of these thousands of migrants had existing DACA recipient family members in the U.S. that they could by extension benefit from their status as DACA members to become citizens.
Mexico and its citizenry is making a mockery of our American laws. And I'm proud of President Trump for standing up. And quite frankly, it reiterates the need for some kind of border security on our southern border.
ALLEN: Dave, is this an opportunity that the president deserves to take as kind of shake down Congress on new immigration policy?
JACOBSON: Look, I think the president is emblematic of a racist and that's the racist that we saw when we (INAUDIBLE) latch on. This is a guy -- let's not forget -- at his New York tower for his announcement of his presidential campaign, said Mexico is bringing rapist. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing weapons. They're bringing crime.
That is Donald Trump. Look, the fact of the matter is 20,000 of the DACA recipients are classroom teachers; 900 of these individuals are risking their lives, these DACA recipients, risking their lives to serve in the United States military. The fact of the matter is Donald Trump, he looks like a coldhearted, you know, mean spirited president who is doing he can to bring that -- to not bring this country together.
He is divisive and it has no place in the White House.
ALLEN: John, I'll let you respond to that. Certainly, this president has gone back and forth and back and forth on DACA has had some racist undertones to things he has said about the people coming into this country.
THOMAS: The president went far and above --
THOMAS: -- beyond just standard DACA recipients in offering a deal prior to this. He expanded it to even the DREAMers but he wanted some consolations, like ending chain migration. He wanted a merit- based lottery system.
But Congress, particularly the Democrats, were unwilling to deal. And now you've got thousands of illegal migrants that are just thumbing their nose at us, crossing our borders illegally, trying to take advantage of the system and I think President Trump is just going enough is enough. He is taking away that bargaining chip.
And I think he's going to get even tougher because we saw in those tweets, Natalie, that he's talking if Mexico does not participate in securing its borders on our southern side, that he'll repeal NAFTA because there has to be penalties.
We are a nation of laws and right now in places like California and others, you see this attitude in a way that it's rewarding people for breaking our laws, not punishing them.
ALLEN: Is he, though, John, walking into a dangerous territory here?
This adds, as Dave points out, most Americans support the DREAMers, the DACA program and we have midterm elections coming up.
THOMAS: Well, he will probably come back to DACA. I think he's sympathetic on that issue but he needs leverage. He didn't -- he made an offer. It wasn't accepted. And I think if the conversation going into the midterms is that President Trump is standing up for Americans in trying to secure our border.
I think that's a pretty good conversation he wants to have.
ALLEN: Dave, your response.
JACOBSON: I just think this (INAUDIBLE) acting isn't going to play well (INAUDIBLE). The fact of the matter is Donald Trump wants to limit legal migration. That's out of the mainstream. It is extraordinarily extreme and I think that's why you see moderate, level-headed Republicans in Congress saying, hold up, President Trump.
We're not going to minimize or restrict legal migration. We want a comprehensive immigration plan and frankly that's why you saw the U.S. Senate just a couple of years ago on a bipartisan level put forward a common sense, comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship.
It didn't get through the House but the fact is Jeff Flake's tweet is accurate. There are Republicans who want to work with Democrats, who want to get not just a DACA deal done but a broader comprehensive immigration reform plan done.
And the challenge is Donald Trump refuses to act (INAUDIBLE) scorched earth mentality. He's digging his heels in.
Because all he cares about is delivering that darn border wall. And frankly, Congress isn't going to fund it. So he's threatening our allies like Mexico, which is just flat out irreparable.
ALLEN: Yes, how much of this, John, do you think is his frustration over the border wall?
THOMAS: I do think there's a lot of frustration there. But remember President Trump was the one that went even further than what the Democrats asked for on DACA and went 600,000 or 800,000 recipients, he went over 1 million people that, immigrants, illegally, that could have a pathway to citizenship.
So Donald Trump understands the (INAUDIBLE) negotiation. Deals cannot last forever, OK, they can -- if you want leverage, they have to expire at a certain point. I think Trump is right. He's frustrated, especially as we see Mexico with aiding illegal migration across our border.
ALLEN: I want to thank you both. We always appreciate your spirited comments and debate. John Thomas, Dave Jacobson, thanks for your time. We've had a nice holiday weekend.
JACOBSON: Thanks, you too.
ALLEN: China is raising tariffs on more than 100 imports from the United States. The Chinese finance ministry says it is because new U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum imports have seriously damaged Chinese interests.
In order to balance their losses, they say they are levying a new 15 percent tariff on 123 products and a 25 percent tariff on eight pork products. British authorities believe they have a clue that points to the nerve agent attack against a former Russian spy straight to the Kremlin. Last week officials revealed they think whoever poisoned Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, put the nerve agent on the front door of Skripal's home.
Now a source briefed on the investigation tells CNN they believe a move like that was too sophisticated for a rogue agent and likely needed Kremlin approval.
Doctors, meantime, say Yulia Skripal is improving rapidly. Her father remains in critical condition.
A long journey home, China's uncontrollable space lab's fiery fall to Earth. We will discuss its demise with a former astronaut coming up here.
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MICHAEL TURNER, SPECIAL ED TEACHER AND VETERAN: I've helped at food banks. I've helped deliver food. I help do all those things. I honestly never thought I would be on the receiving end. I have to swallow my pride a lot.
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ALLEN (voice-over): Also ahead here, schoolteachers in the U.S. talk with CNN about how they --
ALLEN (voice-over): -- struggle to make ends meet as many prepare to walk off the job to demand better pay. Their stories ahead here on CNN NEWSROOM.
ALLEN: China's out of control space lab has met its fiery end. China's space agency said Tiangong-1 or Heavenly Palace has plummeted now back to Earth right into the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It lost contact with Earth two years ago and had been falling out of orbit ever since.
Former U.S. astronaut Leroy Chiao flew on four space missions. He joins us now from Houston, Texas, with his insights on this space lab that has now plummeted back to Earth.
Leroy, thanks for talking with us. So the Chinese space lab is down without incident.
What can you tell us about where it ended up and how it came down?
LEROY CHIAO, FORMER U.S. ASTRONAUT: Well, from all reports, it looks like it went down in the South Pacific, which is not surprising. Most of the world is covered by water. So that was expected.
In fact, I would be surprised if any major pieces survived the entry because the Tiangong-1 was not that big of a spacecraft --
CHIAO: -- as they go. And it was not -- it didn't have heat shield on it. So I would bet that most of it, if not all of it burned up in the atmosphere during entry.
ALLEN: Will those who tracked it down be able to tell us that, be able to figure out how many pieces it came down in and when that happened?
CHIAO: Right, so I'm sure their radar was tracking it from the different agencies around the world but anything smaller than the size of a softball I don't think anyone can track. And especially at those altitudes. So if something bigger than that came down, I'm sure they could find it.
But it would be at the bottom of the ocean by now.
ALLEN: Is it unusual that a man-made object falls from the sky and it is out of control like we saw this one, no way to guide it down?
CHIAO: Right, well, the original plan was to guide it down in a controlled manner much like the Mir space station was. There's a specific place in the ocean called the spacecraft graveyard, where all nations tend to put their pieces of space -- the things that have run out of useful life, try to de-orbit it in an orderly fashion.
Unfortunately, Tiangong-1, the Chinese lost communication with it in 2016. So it's been a derelict for two years and orbital drag over these two years has gradually brought it down to where it finally entered the atmosphere, much like the American Skylab back in 1979. It became a derelict and there was no way to try to send it into a specific place.
But it ended up hitting Western Australia unfortunately in a very uninhabited area and there were no problems.
ALLEN: And Australia fined the U.S. $400 for littering but I don't think they ever paid that. They should have.
OK, so we know that there is water, water everywhere. The chances are very slim that somebody could be hit by space debris like this. But parts of the U.S. space lab did land in Australia. Has it ever happened before?
CHIAO: After Skylab, I believe in the early '80s there was a Soviet satellite that landed in Northern Canada it actually was a more serious deal because they had some radioactive electricity -- electricity generating devices on board. And it did hit the Earth in Northern Canada. Of course not near an inhabited area.
But the Canadians did recover it and had to take precautions to make sure that the radiation was contained.
ALLEN: We thank you for your time in helping us understand. Leroy Chiao, thanks a lot, Leroy.
CHIAO: My pleasure, thank you.
ALLEN: Public school teachers in parts of the U.S. are raising their voices in protest over their pay, which, they say, is too low. More than 20 counties in Kentucky were forced to close schools Friday after educators called out of work sick requested substitutes. They oppose a bill that would overhaul state pensions and possibly reduce their benefits.
The state legislature passed the measure; it now heads to Kentucky's governor for signing. He is expected to sign it.
Teachers in Oklahoma are planning a walkout Monday, despite a recent raise. CNN's Bill Weir shows us why they say it is simply not enough.
DONNA ROSS, TEACHER: Drum roll.
BILL WEIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For Donna Ross, the goal is to fill her classroom with such energy...
ROSS: -- give them a high five, 1-2-3.
WEIR (voice-over): -- that the kids never suspect that she works two other jobs to survive.
ROSS: So I've been up since 5 o'clock this morning.
WEIR (voice-over): She drives for Uber and caters weddings because a master's degree and 20 years' experience barely brings a living wage in Oklahoma.
TURNER: But you can see where my net pay was -- it was less than $1,200. I was being liberal. But --
WEIR (on camera): Wow, you're just over $1,000.
TURNER: Correct. And --
WEIR: And that's for --
TURNER: That's a -- that's one month.
WEIR: That's a month?
WEIR (voice over): The most desperate sell blood. And some, like this former Marine and special ed teacher, rely on church soup kitchens to eat.
TURNER: So I've helped at food banks. I've helped deliver food. I've helped do all those things. I honestly never thought I would be on the receiving end. I have to swallow my pride a lot and I hate asking for help.
WEIR (voice-over): This state has long been the state with the deepest cuts to education.
But something about the West Virginia strike helped turn Oklahoma anger to action.
ALBERTO MOREJON, EIGHTH GRADE TEACHER: I mean I got on Facebook and I typed in like Oklahoma walkout, teacher walkout and nothing popped up.
And I was like, why not be the guy that makes a group?
And now it has about 72,000 people.
WEIR (on camera): And it just started with you sending it to a couple teacher friends.
MOREJON: I sent it to a couple of teacher friends and they started inviting other teacher friends and the next thing you know, I mean, it just exploded.
MOREJON: So, I mean, you don't get -- you don't get 72,000 people in the group in three weeks if there's not a problem.
WEIR (voice over): Just the threat of a walkout was enough to force the first new taxes here in 28 years, enough to give teachers and average raise of about 6,000 bucks.
WEIR (voice-over): But it is a fraction of their demand. So they're still walking.
But for how long?
And how will this affect Arizona, where teachers there are staging the next red state revolt?
WEIR (on camera): The difference between a strike and a walkout is you're not defying the school. The superintendent is behind you.
But could it turn into a strike if things got nasty? MOREJON: A lot of the superintendents say that they support teachers
and they support what teachers want to do. So I feel like as long as teachers want to stay out to fight for what we're fighting for, I think there will be lots of support.
WEIR: Teachers are not the only frustrated public servants in Oklahoma. State troopers have to ration gasoline; prisons are overcrowded. Social workers are strapped. But, at the same time, oil drillers and gas frackers enjoy the most generous sweetheart subsidies of any state in the country.
JAMEE COMBS, MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELOR: At one point in time, our light bulbs were every other light bulb in the building.
WEIR (voice over): Meanwhile, in Inola, classes are crowded, they're on a four-day week and the math teacher mows lawns.
TIM COMBS, MATH TEACHER: We do better at this than we do the -- at the -- at the school teaching as far as the money goes.
WEIR: Is that right?
T. COMBS: Yes.
WEIR: You make more cutting lawns?
T. COMBS: Yes.
WEIR: Do you service the lawns of your students?
J. COMBS: Yes.
T. COMBS: Yes, every now and then we will.
KIDS: I know that excellence is not an act. It is a habit and a way of life.
WEIR (voice over): It's a similar reality for Ms. Ross, who would like to do more teaching than driving and was spotted waiting tables by one of her fourth graders and was mortified.
ROSS: He just said that, Ms. Ross, you really work hard. You work a lot of places, don't you?
He said, you must be rich.
And I said, I sure am.
ALLEN: What a wonderful teacher she is. That's just not right. And that was Bill Weir reporting. We will stay on top of that story for you as several states are in a uproar over teacher pay.
Coming up, the data scandal widened as people in Kenya demand answers after learning their politician hired Cambridge Analytica.
[01:30:00] ALLEN: Thank you for staying with us. We're back with CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Natalie Allen. Here are our top stories. More than one thousand people from Central America are marching through Mexico. The pilgrimage is symbolic in part but some plan to apply for asylum in the U.S. U.S. President Donald Trump meantime has tweeted that he no longer supports the legislative compromise to protect undocumented immigrant brought to the U.S. as children -- the DACA program.
Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, are trading insults over Israel's response to a protest in Gaza. 17 Palestinians died in clashes with Israeli forces. Mr. Erdogan called Mr. Netanyahu a terrorist. But Mr. Netanyahu slammed Turkey for "bombing civilian populations for years."
And Costa Rica's presidential run-off election, the candidate who supported same sex marriage has won decisively with most of the votes counted. Carlos Alvarado has won with about 60 percent of the votes. He defeated the right-wing preacher who campaigned strongly against same sex marriage.
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has attended a landmark concert by South Korea artist to play from the capital, Pyongyang. This is the first time in more than a decade, musicians from the South, have played in the North. It also comes amid joint military drills between the U.S. and South Korea.
I'm joined now from California by Stephan Haggard, he's the Director of the Korea Pacific Program at the University of California at San Diego. Stephan, thank you so much for talking with us. As we just said, this would've been unheard off. How did we get here so quickly?
STEPHAN HAGGARD, DIRECTOR OF THE KOREA PACIFIC PROGRAM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT SAN DIEGO (via Skype): Well, it started with the Kim Jong-un's New Year speech where he made this unbelievable initiative to come to the Olympics and also would like to have summit with President Moon Jae-in, and then that lead to the summit with the Chinese, and now one that's scheduled with President Trump.
ALLEN: Is Kim Jong-un a new man?
HAGGARD: Good question. He certainly seems quite confident but I think he's playing a weak hand relatively well. One of the reasons I think he's come to these summits or propose is summit, is because he's facing quite significant sanctions -- not only from the United States but also from China.
ALLEN: Is there any chance that this thaw, this opening that he's -- the world is being played by Kim Jong-un?
HAGGARD: Well, of course, that's possible. And we're worried about the U.S. summit in particular because the level of preparation just doesn't seem to be there. But I think that both Presidents Moon and Trump at the current juncture have a pretty good bargain in here, because he seems very, very intent on coming to these summits. For example, he's tolerated the current military exercises which have just resumed. And in the past, the North Korean have typically made a big deal out of those exercises and condemn them.
ALLEN: So, how should the world proceed now with what is going on? We have these upcoming talks between the North and South, and you mentioned talks underway for meeting the United States. What do you hope will be on the table when it really comes down to what is Kim Jong-un going to do about his nuclear program?
HAGGARD: Exactly. So, I think that the best that we can hope from the summit is something like a declaration of intent or statement of principles about how the United States and North Korea are going to move forward on negotiating the denuclearization of the peninsula, and that's going to have to involve some concessions from the United States, perhaps, lifting some sanctions. I think in the short run, there's no reason for the U.S. to do that. It's really going to be up to Kim Jong-un to put some offers on the table that can be studied by the U.S. and South Korea, and the other allies in the region.
ALLEN: So, the door is definitely opening. What, in your opinion, could shut it?
HAGGARD: I think one of the things we really have to watch for is the John Bolton appointment raises concerns with me about shutting down the negotiating channel. The Chinese have maintained sanction pressure on North Korea, and in fact, have been crucial in that regard, but in part because they wanted United States to cooperate by actually opening a channel. So, if we take a hard-lined stance and basically shut out the possibility of negotiations, there's a possibility that the Chinese will at the situation and say, United States is not interested in a diplomatic settlement, and then we're back to where we were.
[01:35:20] ALLEN: What are your hopes for President Trump. He hasn't always do what his advisors tell him to do when he talked with Vladimir Putin after his victory there in Russia. They said don't congratulate him, he did. Do you have concerns how Donald Trump will handle this meeting? This situation?
HAGGARD: Of course, and the optics on the summit will not be good. Here's Donald Trump meeting with the leader of North Korea just absolutely unthinkable. But as I said, I think that United States with the cooperation with China, Japan, South Korea, even the Russians on this issue are in the pretty good bargaining position. The main point is to try to communicate to Kim Jong-un that the only path forward for North Korea is to begin denuclearization. And I think if that's the core thing that comes out of the summit, even if the details aren't there, we will have made some progress.
ALLEN: Progress sounds good in this situation, does it? Stephan Haggard, thank you so much. Data firm, Cambridge Analytica, is embroiled in scandal in the U.S. and the U.K., and now, it's affecting Kenya. The company denies allegations that it's misused data for millions of Facebook users to influence elections. Politicians in Kenya hired the firm and voters want answers. CNN's Farai Sevenzo reports from Nairobi.
FARAI SEVENZO, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Nairobi, thousands of miles away from the offices of Cambridge Analytica. When the political consultancy firm revealed to an undercover news team that Kenya's current president was a client, they're managing director claimed. The Kenyatta campaign was pre-run in 2013 and 2017 for Kenyatta. "We have rebranded the entire party twice, written the manifesto, done research, analysis, messaging. I think we wrote all the speeches and we staged the whole thing. So, just about every element of this candidate." These are polarized election, full of animosity, and questions are being raised now over how big Cambridge Analytica's reach was.
Kenyans are painfully aware for the dangers of negative campaigning given the history of violent elections in this country. And of course, they want to know what it is, Cambridge Analytica did for their government, and what impact that had on Kenyan democracy.
Have you heard of Cambridge Analytica?
CHARLES MBUVI, FRUIT SELLER: Yes, I have.
MBUVI: Those are the guys who manipulated the -- in a way manipulated the elections.
SEVENZO: Do you think they gave Mr. Kenyatta a fair advantage.
MBUVI: I don't know if there is substance of that story. But if there is, then it's unfortunate.
JAMES ORENGO, KENYAN PARTY SENATOR AND ACTIVIST: It puts the result into question. Their whole electoral infrastructure, in relation to the elections which are held last year must be fully audited. I think we'll see the footprints of Cambridge Analytica.
SEVENZO: Images of Kenya's president appear on Cambridge Analytica's Web site, as well as on that of parent company SCL, where these images have since been removed.
NANJALA NYABOLA, POLITICAL ANALYST AND AUTHOR: Let's not absolve Kenyan politicians of their role in this because Cambridge Analytica didn't pay themselves. Who -- a foreign company to come to Kenya.
SEVENZO: This video appeared on social media. It made astounding claims about the opposition leader.
RAILA ODINGA, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF KENYA: You -- first glitching was the Raila, and all that trash about me.
SEVENZO: And do you think it contributed to ethnic tensions in the country? ODINGA: Certainly, there are loss of lives. I think there are many
innocent people lost their lives as the result of those negative ethnic campaign created by Cambridge Analytica. Somebody needs to take this possibility for this.
SEVENZO: We arrived at President Kenyatta's party headquarters to try to find some answers.
RAPHAEL TUJU, JUBILEE PARTY SECRETARY GENERAL: We hired them to do analysis or focus group discussion -- focus group discussion results because they did have that expertise, they did them on (INAUDIBLE) that they have that expertise.
SEVENZO: And that was it?
TUJU: That was it.
SEVENZO: No, sort of, strategy to the completing negative about the opposition.
TUJU: No, no.
SEVENZO: Are you doing away all these videos that were around in 2017 campaign?
KENYATTA: We had no idea. We saw them; some of them were sent out to us.
SEVENZO: Now, it's possible that in this investigation, there's going to be paper trail that leads right here to jubilee headquarters. What would you say to people who are worried about the entire land?
[01:40:08] TUJU: He isn't part of it, because in our engagement with SEO, which you say is related to Cambridge Analytica, in our engagement, I have no time of digging after to do any kind of data mining.
SEVENZO: Why don't what to find out who they are and who they're paying --
TUJU: No, no, this is of necessary. It's not my business to find out who else are your business associates, is it?
SEVENZO: But is this business associate have such a terrible reputation and have (INAUDIBLE) in terms of negative campaigning. Well, you'll sure hire them again in 2022.
TUJU: No, I would not. And I'll (INAUDIBLE) because of the reputation. I would not because I don't have time to be dealing with all the side issues. I have to do deal with co-business and my co- business is to run a campaign and win an election.
SEVENZO: The fallout over Cambridge Analytica's tactics is far from over for this East African nation. And time will tell whether Kenyans get the answers they're looking for. Farai Sevenzo, CNN, Nairobi.
ALLEN: Cambridge Analytica has denied any accusations of wrongdoing. The company has suspended its chief executive officer.
Coming up, we look at life on the edge; bring you a personal look at the toll of poverty takes on young children and their families in one area of the United Kingdom.
ALLEN: Poverty in wealthy nations like the United Kingdom can be easy to hide. Politicians see it as a complex issue with many contributor factors. But as our Phil Black reports: for children who don't have enough, it's as simple as going to bed hungry.
PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: How can you tell which of these young students is quietly worried about home, (INAUDIBLE), money, and death.
[01:45:05] PRIANKA PRADHAN-LAMA, STUDENT: My name is Prianka. When in school, I feel like, being like a doctor or maybe actress.
BLACK: In a class that looks like any other filled with concentrating, often smiling faces, poverty's cruel grip isn't always obvious.
P. LAMA: My worry is that one day we might not be able to keep the bills because of (INAUDIBLE) too much for us. My mom sincerely works for a few hours; she's not paid that much, but she tries her hardest.
BLACK: A 10-year-old girl's clear-eyed assessment of a family on the financial edge. And what Prianka's describing isn't uncommon here at Stanhope Primary School is West London. Prianka is one of many students who, with instructions from mom, takes what she can from their weekly visit by a free food charity.
P. LAMA: I'd only take some vegetables and some bread rolls. And also, I bring -- sometimes, I bring some yogurt because I get them.
BLACK: Prianka's parents move to the U.K. from Nepal in the 90s. The goal: a better life. Three children later, they're getting by just.
TARA PRADHAN-LAMA, PRIANKA'S MOTHER: We should calculate if, like, we are spending more than we are earning. Sometimes, when it's too stressful, I, as a woman, I just cry, and the children get very stressed, they say they have got piggy bank that I can borrow their money, I said, that money is not enough.
BLACK: This is a home where the parents sacrifice all for their children. And you're counting every penny?
T. LAMA: Every penny, yes.
BLACK: It will make a difference. T. LAMA: Recently, even the food prices went up ten percent.
T. LAMA: Milk is supposed, one pound only. But last two weeks, it has gone to one pound and ten cents.
BLACK: Tara works part time for minimum wages. That money only covers school lunches and little (INAUDIBLE). Her husband must drive buses six nights a week.
T. LAMA: The children, they have their daddy with them -- in a day. He takes them to school, that's the time with him, and he's not there the rest of the days. So, they don't even know him totally.
BLACK: The parent's resolve means they earn enough to struggle through most days and that's too much to qualify for government health. So, while Prianka and her siblings are raised in hardship, they unofficially deprived, unlike 28 percent of the children at their school. Head teacher Sahreen Saddiqui tells me some students aren't regularly fed, which impacts learning and that ultimately alters alive chances.
SAHREEN SADDIQUI, HEAD TEACHER, STANHOPE PRIMARY SCHOOL: One girl told me that in emergency situation, she goes to school, she goes to sleep hungry, for example. And when I sort of talk to her about what that might be, that might the day that dad doesn't get any work.
BLACK: Activist describe it as modern Britain's great shame -- the steady, relentless rise in child poverty. It now affects four million children, according to a coalition of charities. One statistic shows the complexity of the problem. In more than 60 percent of impoverish family, one or more of the parents has a job. They are Britain's working poll. The charity say, complex where the factors, means their numbers are only expected to rise in the near future.
Unaffordable housing, especially London, recent price inflation, employment contracts which don't guarantee daily work and pay, and the government's decision to maintain and freeze on the benefits it pays to families in need. The U.K. government insist creating jobs and getting more people into work, is the best plan to fight poverty. Low paying work and extraordinary determination allow Prianka's parents to keep their family's dreams alive. But it's getting harder all the time, and the children know it.
P. LAMA: I feel like happy and proud that my parents are doing so much for me and they don't really do much for themselves, because most of the time, they normally buy things for us and not for them.
BLACK: Phil Black, CNN, London.
ALLEN: And we'll be right back with more news.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [01:51:41] IVAN CABRERA, CNN METEOROLOGIST: I'm CNN Meteorologist, Ivan Cabrera, checking in on winter still hanging on across East Canada and the Northern part of the U.S., not just cold temperatures, right, but snowing. And in fact, significant snowfalls from (INAUDIBLE) getting up into Montreal as well with this system that continues to roll through. It is spring further south; nice and warm across the Southeaster U.S., but if you are, perhaps, traveling into the big apple, you're going to have some delays, I think, through the early part of the day, and that temperatures warm up -- it's just going to be a slushy mess but quite remarkable certainly for this time of the year. The contingency is temperatures, and not just that, but the snowfall that has remained.
Up here, single digit for Chicago, you're behind the system, so mostly sunny skies, likewise in Winnipeg. The notice: cold air residing there, so temperature is about tangible 12 below zero. And that cold there will eventually push. Look at how big of purple and pink, that means just another shot of very chilly temperatures and unseasonably cold air that will be whirling through across the Northeast. We're going at a wrong direction here. Single digits highs; we're going to have that warm up ahead of the front, and as it them moves through back to upper single digits, so once again, so it remained chilly. If you want the warm air, it resides, of course, further south -- great time for a vacation this time of the year with the wet season not quite moved in in earnest. So, we're looking pretty good from Mexico City to Managua. Temperatures there, very warm in the 30s.
ALLEN: Take a look at this almost mystical shroud in China. Landmark buildings in China's Jiangsu province are hidden by fog. It usually occurs during winter and spring in northern coastal cities when moist air passes over a cool surface. The cold air leaves a trail of fog and kind of eerie feeling for folks there. Let's find out when the fog will leave and what is causing it in the first place. Our meteorologist, Ivan Cabrera, digging down into this for us. Ivan, not shrouded by any fog is nice, clear video, hello.
CABRERA: Yes, indeed. Good to see you, Natalie. The problem is that looks -- it looks very pretty but what's underneath is going to be problem. So, if you are sensitive or, really, if you're just breathing and there are some particulars in the air that are not particularly healthy, this is the problem because those are all trapped along with that pretty fog that we get. Basically, what happens, as Natalie alluded too there, we get to cooling especially through the overnight hours, we get clear skies up above. That air at the surface cools very rapidly; you need some moisture as well so that air has to be humid. As it continues to cool, it reaches to what we call the saturation point, and at that point, that's when the fog develops. And then on top of that fog, you get another layer that cools, that also creates more fog and then you end up with the pictures that we just showed you there.
And again, the problem is that, it's not just water vapor there, we're talking about some nasty substance where water gets trapped at the surface. So, whatever was in the atmosphere, that what you have. Now, what happens is, with the clear conditions, also, we get light winds. So, they're also favorable for that event to happen. As we take a look right now, seeing the weather system that's going to be moving through, and so that will mix up the atmosphere, and so we're not going to have the fog, just kind of settling over the cities like that. And there's that little boundary that comes in as we head through the day on Tuesday and Wednesday. So, we wake up Tuesday morning, we may get similar repeat of the conditions that we saw in the last 24 hours. Otherwise, I think we're going to clear things out.
[01:55:05] The other story we're following, by the way, we are -- this is the hottest it gets in India, right? Because were on the monsoon, that is until May, and we're getting out of the winter season, right? And so, you get these temperatures without cool rain to help us out, and you're really start get in (INAUDIBLE). The last three months have been the driest we've had in numerous years across the India. This is serious stuff with temperatures in the 40s. In fact, no rain, zero -- 0.0 in March, and that hasn't happened since 2010. And as I mention, the monsoon, not quite there. We are going to have some pre- monsoonal rains but this is good and bad news because across the east, as the heat builds, we're going to increase the humidity. So, when you combine those two, Natalie, is going to feel very oppressive across India in the next few days.
ALLEN: All right. Ivan, thank you. One family in the state of Florida, where Ivan and I both have lived, found an unwelcomed guest, taking a late-night dip in their pool. How about a 3.5-meter long alligator? Incredible video here. The sheriff in Sarasota, Florida, says the gator made his way, her way, into the pool after busting through a screen. A professional trapper was called to safely remove the alligator from the water. Just looking for a little watery hole is probably a development encroaches on its habitat. We got to go. Thanks for watching this hour. I'm Natalie Allen. But the news continues next with my colleague, Rosemary Church. Hope you stay with us.