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Trump White House; Koreas Tensions; A Dangerous Precedent; Concerns on Repatriation; Myanmar Violence; Rohingya Crisis Plan; Syria Chemical Attack: US and Russia Fail To Reach UN Agreement as Tensions Rise; Roma Shock Barcelona To Advance Semifinals; Bayern Munich Host Sevilla With 2-1 Lead; One-On-One With Masters Champion Patrick Reed. Aired 2-3a ET
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[02:00:01] ISHA SESAY, CNN, ANCHOR: This is CNN Newsroom live from Los Angeles. Ahead this hour, as the U.S. military weighs its options in Syria. we'll look at the humanitarian toll on the places' violence. Sources tell CNN that Donald Trump is considering firing the Deputy Attorney General as a way of curbing the Russia probe.
Plus, Facebook CEO in the hot seat, Mark Zuckerberg says he is sorry and promises to do better during the five hour marathon on Capitol Hill. Hello and welcome to our viewers around the world. I'm Isha Sesay. This is Newsroom L.A. U.S. President Donald Trump is cancelling his planned trip to South America this week as he and U.S. allies consider how to respond to a suspected chemical attack in Syria.
A team of international chemical experts is heading to Syria on a fact-finding mission. But the U.N. Security Council, the U.S., and Russia angrily squared off again Tuesday, effectively blocking each other's draft resolutions for investigations into last weekends suspected attack in Duma.
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NIKKI HALEY, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: When the people of Duma, along with the rest of the international community, looked to this council to act, one country stood in the way. History will record that. History will work -- will record that on this day, Russia chose protecting a monster over the lives of the Syrian people.
VASILY NEBENZYA, RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.: The threats that you're stating vis-a-vis Syria should make us seriously worried, all of us, because we could find ourselves on the threshold of some very sad and serious events. I would once again ask you to refrain from the plans that you are currently developing for Syria.
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SESAY: Well, CNN's Senior International Correspondent Ben Wedeman joins us now from Beirut, Lebanon. Ben, you've covered this conflict in Syria for a very long time. Were you surprised in any way that the Security Council failed to act in any meaningful way in terms of an investigation? BEN WEDEMAN, CNN, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: No, Isha, not
at all, because obviously, the United States and Russia are on opposite ends of this conflict, and more likely to agree on anything. Now we do have this delegation coming from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons going to Syria to investigate.
But as we saw after the August 21, 2013, Syrian attack on the Ghouta, which left more than 1000 people dead. The OPCW does not have a mandate to assign blame. It only does the scientific groundwork, the research to determine if and what chemical weapons might have been used. Perhaps the arrival of that team will buy some time before actual hostilities commence.
But certainly at this point, the rhetoric coming out of Washington would indicate, and London and Paris, that certainly they are seriously considering some form of military action against Syria. The question will be will it be limited in time and scope or will it be open ended. Certainly, given President Trumps a stated desire to get out of Syria within six months, it's more likely going to be short and sharp perhaps.
But as we saw of for instance after he ordered a cruise missile attack on a Syrian airbase on the central part of the country last April, after the attack on Khan Shaykhun, it may -- when all the death, dust settles, not really affect the long term course of events in Syria, Isha.
SESAY: I guess operating in the short term with this expected strike or coalition strike. Ben is it clear or do we have some sense as to what would be -- what would be targeted, what or where would be targeted with any kind of coalition strike.
WEDEMAN: Well, we've seen indications that they might be going after those military facilities in some way connected with the production or the delivery of chemical weapons. Now it's interesting that after the OPCW mission in 2013 and Syria's agreements to dismantle its chemical weapons program, it appears that they may still have one perhaps.
[02:04:53] But really we will have to wait and see. Otherwise, it could be an attempt to cripple the Syrian Air Force, which is believed to have been playing obviously the critical role in delivering the chemical weapons on Duma on Saturday night. But really, we will just have to wait and see, Isha.
SESAY: Well, we'll be doing a lot of waiting. So I guess we can wait a little while longer. Ben Wedeman joining us there from Beirut, we appreciate it, Ben. Thank you. Lina Sergie Attar is the Co-Founder of the Karam Foundation, which provides humanitarian aid to Syrians. She joins us now from Lake Forest, Illinois, Lina, thank you so much for being with us.
Let me ask you first and foremost and most importantly what you're hearing about the situation in Duma right now.
LINA SERGIE ATTAR, THE KARAM FOUNDATION, CO-FOUNDER: The situation there right now is very difficult. We've had thousands of people who have left Duma in busses that forcibly displaced some of the Syrian families from the besieged areas as we've seen time and time again in the past seven years by the Syrian regime, and we've have had about 3500 people who have left Duma and headed north towards a province on the Syrian Turkish border.
SESAY: As they head off to these different locations, what awaits them there?
SERGEI ATTAR: Really, a lot of uncertainty. We're talking about a situation here where there have been over 100,000 people who have been displaced from Eastern Ghouta in the past week or so. Some of them went to Damascus. Most of them went to northern Syria. There is still tens of thousands still besieged inside Eastern Ghouta and in Duma.
And what awaits them really is uncertainty, where to live, where to begin, putting together your lives, where to send your kids to school. This is what we've been working with day in and day out with our team on the ground. And it's devastating because we're seeing inside Syria displaced people helping more displaced people and these waves of displacement, and on the way of becoming refugees is very difficult thing to have.
And it's no way to be able to build a life and build a future.
SESAY: The President of the United States' frightening response to what happened in Duma at the weekend. What's the view of Syrians there on the ground? What's the view of any action taken by the U.S. at this stage? We know more than seven years later since the thing began.
SERGEI ATTAR: I can tell you tonight are a very tense night for every Syrian. We have been waiting, waiting for something for any kind of response to counter this kind of brutality and this inhumanity that Syrians have been facing for over seven years from the Syrian regime and their allies.
And we are waiting for any kind of accountability of using chemical weapons against civilians, against children. And what people really need to understand is when you see these images of Syrian children suffocated to death on chemical weapons or Syrian children who are being hit with barrel bombs, as you've also seen today on Idlib.
And we've seen over the past years, you have to imagine that these kids grew up under siege, grew up under bombs, are growing up in this war. Some of them have never seen a fruit. Some of them have never had a real meal. We've had a case with our team on the ground to -- went to visit -- to get one of their families off of the buses and the child told our team member do you have a bakery here and he said yes, we have a bakery and the child start to cry, a little boy because he said he couldn't believe that he was going to actually have bread.
SESAY: Goodness.
SERGEI ATTAR: This is a situation.
SESAY: Lina Sergie Attar, we thank you for joining us, and giving us a reality check. Thank you.
Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen says the FBI raid on his home office and hotel room were upsetting to say the least. He spoke to CNN Tuesday, calling the FBI agents extremely professional, courteous, and respectful. But he admits he's worried especially about the impact on his family. Cohen says everything he did in regard to paying the adult film star Stormy Daniels for the nondisclosure agreement was legal.
The raid has rattled the President as well. Sources say he's considering firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Special Counsel investigation. Another source says the President and his aides have discussed firing Robert Mueller for months. CNN's Pamela Brown reports.
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[02:09:52] PAMELA, BROWN, CNN, CORRESPONDENT: In the days since the raid on Michael Cohen's office and hotel room, we've learned the FBI wasn't just looking for record about payments to porn star Stormy Daniels, but also documents on a deal between former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal and the elders of the National Enquirer to buy and bury her story about her alleged affair with Trump, an affair the White House denies.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The President has been clear. He has addressed this several times. I don't have anything else to add.
BROWN: We've also learn the raid included a request for documents related to Cohen's ownership of New York City Taxi Medallions. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein who was nominated by Trump had to sign off on the raid.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you thinking about firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein?
BROWN: Trump wouldn't answer questions today, instead, taking to Twitter to declare attorney-client privilege is dead, and to call the investigation led by his own Justice Department a witch hunt.
DONALD TRUMP, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: It's a disgrace. It's frankly a real disgrace. It's an attack on our country in a true sense. It's an attack on what we all stand for.
BROWN: Trump, also again, publicly turning on his Attorney General Jeff Sessions who has the power to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller but recused himself from the Russian investigation.
TRUMP: The Attorney General made a terrible mistake when he did this, and when he recused himself, or he should've certainly let us know if he was going to recuse himself. And we would've used a -- put a different Attorney General in.
BROWN: And firing a warning shot to Mueller himself.
TRUMP: Why don't I just fire Mueller? Well, I think it's a disgrace what's going on. We'll see what happens, but I think it's really a sad situation when you at what happened. And many people have said you should fire him.
BROWN: The threat of firing Mueller has leaders in the President's own party sending warnings of their own.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that would be a mistake.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He should be allowed to finish the job he was appointed to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it would be suicide for the President to fire him.
BROWN: But announced today that the President believes he has the power to fire Mueller, the White House said this.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He certainly believes he has the power to do so.
BROWN: With Trump saying we're at a boiling point, news of the President's hastily cancelled trip to South America and the departure of Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert. A source telling CNN there is a deep sense of anxiety and uncertainty in the West Wing as aides wonder what's next. CNN has learned Bossert was pushed out by newly installed National Security Advisor John Bolton just days after an appearance on television on behalf of the administration.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the President's got a point that's been very clear, and I'm going to reiterate that point.
BROWN: With his departure, nearly half the top level staff inside Trump's White House has turned over, according to a Brookings Institution study. But the President's trip to South America has been cut short. The White House said that is because he wants to stay back to focus on the U.S. response to the apparent chemical weapons attack in Syria.
But sources tell us that the President had been groveling to aid in recent days about going on the trip in the first place. It wasn't something he particularly wanted to do. And we're also told that he is not going, in part because he is so angered by the raid on his personal attorney's office in and home, and the fact that he needs to figure out the next steps at his own Justice Department.
So it appears that there are a number of factors as to why the President is not going on this trip. Pamela Brown, CNN, the White House.
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SESAY: Well, Ethan Bearman is a California Talk Radio Host and Lanhee Chen is a Research Fellow and Lecturer at Stanford University, gentlemen, welcome. The President is not packing his bags. He is not going to South America. He shall be staying put in Washington D.C. while he sees certain fumes and foams. What comes next?
That's the question within the White House. Lanhee, what comes next?
LANHEE CHEN, STANFORD UNIVERSITY, RESEARCH FELLOW: I mean this has been the hallmark of his Trump presidency, which is that no one can predict what's going to happen. And whether it is personnel changes, whether it's the President himself expressing a point of view on Robert Mueller, nobody seems to know. And that's what makes it tough to govern.
At the end of the day, that's what makes it tough for decisions to come out of this White House that actually can be executed on, because no one knows where the President's head is at. No one knows what's coming next. So I expect that pattern to continue.
SESAY: Ethan is your expectation that someone may lose their job in the next couple of days.
ETHAN BEARMAN, CALIFORNIA TALK, RADIO HOST: I think that that's pretty easy to come to that conclusion. But the problem really comes down to -- we have chaos happening in Washington right now. We have person after person in this administration -- who is going to hire the best and the brightest from the business world.
They were going to be phenomenal, the greatest cabinet we've ever seen. We've never seen such turnover. So where are these great people who are taking over in the White House? And why doesn't he listen to the advisers that he hires? But more importantly, we have real issues happening in South and Central America that the United States needs to be addressing.
You know he wants to attack Honduras and Guatemala and Mexico, and ignore what's happening in South America with Ecuador, among many other countries. There are real issues that the United States should be leading on. It's our hemispheric influence. And he is acting like it doesn't matter and that we should just be mad at them and build a bigger wall.
[02:14:55] SESAY: I mean, Lanhee, that is in keeping with the Trump presidency, which seems to be just about retreat and turning inwards, and really owning engaging to fight if you are going to win this rhetorically. Or as Ethan said, putting up a wall and -- but coming back to the issue of the Special Counsel, you know, those on Capitol Hill, that they're saying now more than ever.
They need the legislation to protect Special Counsel Mueller. Mitch McConnell seems to be saying that you know, he doesn't need it -- he thinks will be safe. Will he be safe? I mean what's your sense? Should they be enacting this legislation? Should they be rushing it through?
CHEN: Well, look, first of all, I don't think the President is going to take the step of firing Mueller at this point. Now that doesn't mean that he wanted to take down the road. But talk about him replacing Rod Rosenstein I think is troubling, obviously, because Rod Rosenstein is the bulwark. He is sort of the floodgate, if you will.
And if you allow him to be breached, if you allow the President to put in that place somebody who potentially could interfere with the Special Counsel investigation, I think that's a big problem. So part of the thing is that Republicans in Congress don't want to act until they absolutely have to act. I think that's part of the challenge that we're running into.
And so at this point, the issue is going to be how much more does the President need to actually do before Congress...
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BEARMAN: -- abdication on the part of the Republicans in Congress at this point. Their responsibility to the American people to provide some stability in all of this, and to put a bulwark in place now, when have a President who acts in on an emotion as opposed to on logic and with good information from advisers.
Look, Trump -- it just came out again today, that just the other day again he was talking about firing Mueller. So I don't have the confidence that he does, that President Trump isn't going to wake up tomorrow morning when he's busy tweeting from the toilet, says Robert Mueller's fired according to me today and we have a constitutional crisis in the United States.
SESAY: I mean what about point about the abdication that the GOP on Capitol Hill owe it to the American people to put in place a ring fence that will ensure that this investigation carries on unimpeded.
CHEN: Yeah, I think what they are focused on is they're trying to figure out look, when do we need to act if we need to act. I think they believe that if he President takes a step of actually firing Mueller...
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SESAY: To the President if they did...
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CHEN: Well, first of all, I don't think there are any messages to be sent to the President. I think if the President's going to fire Robert Mueller, he's going to fire -- it doesn't matter what the Republicans in Congress do. The fact of the matter is this, if the President were to fire Robert Mueller today or tomorrow anytime soon, it would precipitate a serious backlash.
And I do Republicans in Congress then would be forced to do something. Now again, that would be after-the-fact, but the point is that at this point in time, at least for Republicans in Congress, there's not just not enough incentive there. There just isn't.
Politically, first of all, they would risk running a foul of Donald Trump. Second of all, they run the risk of running a foul there on voters in an election year. I think that's the challenge we're running into. This is an election year at the end of the day. That drives a lot of this dynamic. BEARMAN: Principles don't matter anymore. So let's worry about the
midterm election. And let's worry about offending the mercurial President that we have in the White House. Let's not do what's right for the American people. That's the world in we're -- we're living with this Congress.
SESAY: As you've wrapped it up so neatly, entirely and put a bow on it. We're going to end right there. Ethan Bearman and Lanhee Chen, thank you. Thank you.
A quick break here, U.S. lawmakers are considering regulating social media, what Facebook CEO had to say about that in his appearance before the U.S. Congress.
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[02:20:00] SESAY: Well, in his first appearance before Congress, lawmakers grill Facebook CEO about user privacy, Russian influence, and whether social media should be regulated. Mark Zuckerberg's first day of testimony comes after reports that affirm ties to President Trump's 2016 campaign got access to millions Facebook use this data without their knowledge.
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MARK ZUCKERBERG, FACEBOOK, CEO: We didn't take a broad enough view of our responsibility and that was a big mistake. It was my mistake. And I'm sorry. There are people in Russia whose job it is to try to exploit our systems and other internet systems and other systems as well. So this is an arms race, wherein they're going to keep on getting better at this and we need to invest in keeping getting better on this too.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that you have an ethical obligation to notify 87 million Facebook users?
ZUCKERBERG: Senator, when we heard back from Cambridge Analytica that they had told us that they weren't using the data and they deleted it. We considered it a closed case. In retrospect, that was clearly a mistake. We shouldn't have taken their word for it. And we've updated our policies and how we're going to operate the company to make sure that we don't make that mistake again.
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SESAY: We turn to the government's questions that put Zuckerberg on the spot about the importance of anyone's privacy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would be comfortable sharing with us the name of the hotel you stayed in last night?
ZUCKERBERG: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you messaged anybody this week? Would you share with us the names of the people you've messaged?
ZUCKERBERG: Senator, no. I would probably not choose to that publicly here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that maybe what this is all about, your right to privacy, the limits of your right to privacy, and how much you give away in modern America in the name of "connecting people around the world."
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SESAY: Mark Zuckerberg is hours away from his second appearance before a House Committee. CNN Money and Technology and Business Correspondent Samuel Burke joins us now from Jerusalem. So Samuel, in your view, did Mark Zuckerberg exceed expectations with his appearance on Tuesday on Capitol Hill?
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN, MONEY AND TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Definitely exceeded or at the very least met expectations. Investors clicked like. They liked what they saw here. Sometimes, you can just use the stock price to judge these types of things. So if we look at the stock price Tuesday, it went up 4.5 percent for Facebook. That's $20 billion of value added back to the stock price of Facebook.
Remember, they've lost tens of billion dollars throughout this scandal. But what's interesting to me here is really the fact that at the heart of all this, what we see Cambridge Analytica on the surface, but you probably know better than most. What drives people toward a story like this is the underlying possible connection to the Donald Trump 2016 campaign.
So, so many of the questions came back to Trump, came back to Russia. And I think the exchange that surprised me the most is the fact that yes, Mark Zuckerberg was so prepared, except for this all-important question about Facebook being this in between possible for Russia and what they were doing in the United States and that possible connection with Donald Trump.
But listen to what Patrick Leahy, the Senator from Vermont said and how Mark Zuckerberg responded and then walked back what he said.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I assume posting service subpoenas for Special Counsel Mueller's office, is that correct?
ZUCKERBERG: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you or anyone on Facebook had been interviewed by the Special Counsel's office?
ZUCKERBERG: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you been interviewed?
ZUCKERBERG: I have not. I have not. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Others have.
ZUCKERBERG: I believe so. And I want to be careful here, because that our work with the Special Counsel is confidential. And I want to make sure that in an open session, I'm not revealing something that's confidential.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I understand. I just want to make clear that you have been contacted. You have had subpoenas.
ZUCKERBERG: Actually, let me clarify that. I actually am not aware of a subpoena. I believe that there may be, but I know we're working with them.
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BURKE: So, Isha, I just want to be clear and answer your question again. Yes, it looks like Mark Zuckerberg was very prepared. Investors thought he was prepared and did well. But on the -- arguably most important question of our time, the possible connections between Trump and Russia and Facebook being used at the intermediary, Mark Zuckerberg wasn't prepared for that question.
[02:25:07] And I think a lot of people, including Senator Leahy are very intrigued and want to know just where the tentacles of Mueller's investigation are going, including in the digital realm.
SESAY: Samuel, the question is will you take a test on whether you passed, regardless whether you get an A plus or A minus. And it seems as if he passed but did he do enough to shut the door on the conversation around a need for regulation.
BURKE: Well, he may have passed, the Chief Executive of Facebook, but in the sense of regulation, maybe it's the Senators that didn't pass the test because as we saw here, I hate to be ageist, but I think there definitely was some age showing here. Some of these Senators clearly don't have a grasp that most people are -- certainly their kids or their grandkids have a Facebook.
Take a listen to what Senator Orrin Hatch said to Mark Zuckerberg, a very basic question that he should have known the answer to.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How do you sustain a business model in which users don't pay for your service?
ZUCKERBERG: Senator, we run ads.
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BURKE: In other words, a lot of time was spent asking and answering questions that we really are should have known the answers to. And it could have been better spent dividing this time, dividing these questions among 44 different Senators. That's a lot of people asking questions over almost five hours. So a lot of people are hoping Wednesday, Isha, that they take off the boxing gloves during the House testimony, that people are a lot stronger so we can get to the more important questions about protecting our data.
Does Facebook track you when you're not using Facebook? Many people believe, yes, can Mark Zuckerberg answer that definitively. And can the members of the House give us a clearer picture of how our data can be protected. People around the world are watching, Isha, from Los Angeles to Israel.
A lot of people are watching to see what this means for their countries and for their companies.
SESAY: Yeah, no doubt. And people want to know what ideas Congress has as well, what other ideas they bring into the table...
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SESAY: If any, exactly. And Samuel Burke joining us there from Jerusalem, Samuel, always appreciated. Thank you.
Well, a judge in Myanmar is refusing to dismiss a case against two Reuter's journalists, who were arrested while investigating the killings of 10 Rohingya men last year. The journalists who were accused of having secret government papers say they interviewed a retired Myanmar army officer who claimed he help being the mass grave for the Rohingya men.
Reuter's Editor-in-Chief says he's disappointed in the court's decision, adding this. We believe that there are solemn grounds where the court to dismiss this matter and to released our journalists. They have not violated any laws in the course of their news gathering. It was simply doing their jobs. We will continue to do all we can to secure their release.
Meanwhile, Myanmar has reportedly sentenced seven of the soldiers for those Rohingya killings. State media report that the soldiers were found guilty of after a 13 day investigation. They are now facing 10 years of hard labor. Well, the U.S. and North Korea are secretly preparing for historic talks, but there are or there maybe major obstacles. We'll explore what North Korea could demand to get rid of its nuclear weapons.
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[02:30:42] ISHA SESAY, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: And you're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. I'm Isha Sesay. The headlines this hour. The U.S. and its allies are weighing how to respond to last weekend's suspected chemical attack in Douma, Syria. An international team of chemical weapons investigators is preparing to head to Douma to set what happened there. A source familiar with the matter says Donald Trump and his aides have discussed firing Special Counsel Robert Mueller for months. Speculation is heating up once again after the FBI raided the home and office of the president's personal attorney, Michael Cohen.
Mark Zuckerberg faces (INAUDIBLE) questioning on Capitol Hill Wednesday. In Tuesday's hearing, the Facebook CEO apologized from mistakes the company made in failing to protect users' data. He did not commit to any specific regulations to social media. Well, North Korea and the U.S. maybe further along in their preparations for direct talks that many thought. CNN has learned both countries have been secretly talking about the planned summit between Kim Jong-un and President Trump, but there are still some major sticking points including what North Korea could demand to get rid of its nuclear weapons. Our Brian Todd reports.
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BRIAN TODD, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We now have the first clear indications that a historic summit between President Trump and Kim Jong-un may really happen. During a meeting of the North Korean Worker's Party, Kim, for the first time acknowledge the possibility of a meeting with Trump. According to his news agency, the dictator presented a, "In depth analysis of possible talks between his regime and the United States. This comes as CNN is told by several Trump Administration officials that the U.S. and North Korea have been holding secret direct talks to prepare for a Trump-Kim Summit. CIA Director Mike Pompeo has been leading the secret negotiations according to CNN sources. With U.S. and North Korean intelligence officials even meeting in a third-country to nail down some details.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've been in touch with North Korea. We'll be meeting with them sometime in May or early June and I think there will be great respect paid by both parties and hopefully we'll be able to make a deal on the denuking of North Korea.
TODD: Several U.S. officials tell CNN, Kim's regime has reaffirmed its willingness to discuss the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. But now, analyst warn about what that really means. For the U.S., it means North Korea would talk about giving up its nuclear weapons. But for Kim they say, denuclearization means something completely different.
LISA COLLINS, KOREA CHAIR, CENTER FOR STRATEGIC AND INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: Well, that means in practical terms is usually the removal of U.S. troops from the Korean Peninsula, a dissolution of the U.S.- South Korea Alliance and eventually a peace treaty between the United States and North Korea.
TODD: And experts say there are other sticking points that might prevent a deal between Trump and Kim, and might still prevent a summit from occurring in the first place.
DEAN CHANG, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION: North Korea has this very, very bad habit of making incredible demands. It's quite possible they're demanding cash. They're probably demanding credit recognition and end to U.S.-South Korean Military exercise. The list is almost endless as preconditions for talks.
TODD: North Korea wants got $500 million from South Korea just for agreeing to hold a summit with the South Korean President in 2000. Tonight, while Kim Jong-un talks about a summit, he strangely silent on another major development. He hasn't said a word about joint U.S.- South Korean military drills going on for the past week. Exercises which Kim always views as a threat.
COLLINS: The North Korean leaders is actually preparing for talks and so doesn't probably want to raise a lot of conflict or attention -- additional attention with the United States and South Korean and run out to both the Inter-Korean talks on April 27th and then the future U.S.-North Korea talks slated for either May or early June.
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TODD: Another possible complication for a Trump-Kim Summit could come in a couple of weeks when Trump meets with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at Mar-a-Lago. Analyst say Abe is expected to raise several concerns that Japan has about a possible summit. He may ask Trump to press the North Koreans to stop flying missiles over Japan in tests and to send back several Japanese citizens who the North Koreans have kidnapped over the decades. Brian Todd, CNN Washington.
[02:35:04] SESAY: Well, a failed prison break in Northern Brazil has left at least 20 people dead. Authorities say a heavily armed group used explosives to take down a prison wall. 19 of those killed are believed to be prisoners or those who try to free them. One victim was a guard. It's not known if anyone escaped. We're going to take a very quick break. Still to come move over Black Panther, a media mogul is working to bring women warriors to TV viewers around the world.
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SESAY: Black Panther, look out. Women warriors maybe coming to a TV screen near you. It shows in the work reminiscent to the Dora Milaje bodyguards to the king of Wakanda in the groundbreaking film but the new series would be inspired by the real life (INAUDIBLE) an elite all-female military union in the -- unit rather in the 19th century West Africa. Joining me from Lagos, Nigeria is the mogul developing idea, the one and only Mo Abudu, Chairman and Chief Executive of EbonyLife. Mo, it is so good to have you on the show. It is so great to hear that you're developing this idea. Tell us more.
MO ABUDU, CHAIRMAN, EBONYLIFE TV: Wow. Where do I start? Well, we'll start to the journey with EbonyLife Television. It was about changing the narrative. It was about getting out stories out there. It was ensuring that we have so much history that nobody was really talking about. The content wasn't being native about our history. So that was literally how we started this journey. So six years ago, we said to ourselves we need to start developing a number of stories and that started research of those stories and then I came across this incredible story about the Dahomey Warriors, the Amazons, and I'm thinking to myself, this existed in 1645 then there was the old King Agaja who decided that he wanted to form these warriors into elephant hunters. So that actually started with elephant hunters and from elephant hunters, there was another king called King Vaja who now himself said, I wanted them to be my personal protection unit.
Obviously, he trusted the women's guard and protects him more than he did the man. But another king came later on called king (INAUDIBLE) who said these women must become real warriors. And by the end of the 19th century, there were 6,000 of these women that -- as they were fierce. These women would take the skulls of their opponent and used them as decoration. They weren't messing around and this was (INAUDIBLE) and I looked at today and I'm saying that, OK, what are the ways, you know, (INAUDIBLE) we need these stories to relight and for us to understand that, you know, there was a time when women were out there on the battlefield fighting real battles that got into the -- into the development and the scripting, and the research, and that was the beginning of it.
[02:40:08] And then obviously, it was like, how do we find a partner that's going to take this to the global screens and write incredible part -- Sony Television.
SESAY: And so you got this partnership, you got the story which as you made the point is real, it came from Africa from, you know, many centuries ago but it shows a different side of black women of African women, but the story is coming out in this moment of Black Panther where we see women on the big screen powerful and strong and elegant, and forceful. I mean talk to me about what Black Panther means for your project and how much more excitement it manage to generate around what you're doing.
ABUDU: I think what I found in Black Panther was that the warriors existed within the Black -- I mean we know that it's a Marvel Comic. But before these warrior existing within this, you know, within Marvel, so if it -- with Black Panther, the next is to say (INAUDIBLE) how do we get them existing in other forms of TV content be it -- be it (INAUDIBLE) I think sometimes it's all about timing, Isha. It's about the fact that it was ready and it was -- it was -- we were just ready to say, listen, how do we make this happen? And I think obviously Sony realized and saw the potential and said, listen, let's really now hone this story in more on these incredible women that really, you know, lift this incredible life back in the 19th century, even before the 19th century. I mean their history started from 1645 and so I think Black Panther (INAUDIBLE) but it's a story that needs to be told and there are so many, many more stories like that, you know, that needs a couple of screens.
SESAY: I mean I think it's fascinating and so believe you're telling this true. We are having a few technical issues but I'm going to push on with just one quick question. Black Panther had a very specific -- was striking to me personally because when I saw the women on screen, they were dark skin, they had natural hair, there was a very specific aesthetic that came with which was empowering which showed the diversity in the looks of black women, will you be looking to do the same with this project?
ABUDU: Absolutely. The darker the better is what I would like to see it meets (INAUDIBLE) when those auditions come, we'll be looking for those strong, vibrant women, absolutely, we will be.
SESAY: Mo, always a pleasure. Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you. Thank you and congrats. Congrats on getting this off the ground. I can't wait to see it.
ABUDU: Thank you so much, Isha. Thank you for having me on the show today. Thank you.
SESAY: Thank you. See you soon. And thank you for watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. I'm Isha Sesay. "WORLD SPORT" is up next. You're watching CNN.
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KATE RILEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL SPORTS ANCHOR: Hello. Welcome along to "WORLD SPORT." I'm Kate Riley at CNN Center. Well, something get much more exciting than the second league of the Champions League Knockout Round.
[02:45:01] Eight of the biggest teams in Europe going head to head trying to book a spot in the semi-finals and for several of those teams on Tuesday that means all out attacking in order to make up the deficit from the first leg, so Barcelona won away go with almost certainly be enough to send them though against Roma. Did they beat for one home in the first leg? However, that won away goal to the Italian sight could end up being the difference. And it look like it might be as Roma get a quick goal, six minutes in. Daniele De Rossi's in perfect long ball fight. Edin Dzeko, who would not miss from there, 1-0, Roma.
Then, with 30 minutes to go, De Rossi convert from the penalty spot to make it 2-0. One more goal from Roma and they're through as they will get it with eight minutes to go. Kostas Manola, Barcelona, desperately need a goal which actually never came. 3-0 Roma, it ends on the night, Barcelona are out.
What an up lead shock at that. So, 4-4 it would finish on aggregate. Barcelona eliminated from the tournament at this stage for the third season running. Roma ended up producing what some are calling one of the best European comeback of all time.
There's a remarkably similar situation for English Premier League leaders, Manchester City who suffered a shock, a 3-0 lost in the first leg away to Liverpool. This is his own tasting the second leg, knowing they are needed and almost perfect performance at home before Man City. Their mandate was even calling on the fans to tell them that he had a stadium and to a cauldron.
And they got the start that they were looking for to few minutes in, City take advantage of the defensive era. Gabriel Jesus, wide open in the box, made a 1-0 to the Man City, Leroy Sane. Then, towards he has it send it the lead only for its three ruled out. Decision which incurring to manager Pep Guardiola, so much. They're center of the halftime.
And it got worse on the second half as Liverpool's (INAUDIBLE) Mohamed Salah, got the away goal the Reds were looking for and strike partner Roberto Firmino, after insult injury by giving the Reds the lead. The game, and the 2-1 on the night. 5-1, on aggregate.
On Wednesday, the two-time defending Champions League winner, Real Madrid, will be looking for to secure their semifinal berth against the team they beaten last year's final, Juventus. In the first leg, Madrid demolished the Italian giants, 3-0 in Turin. Meaning, Juventus have the mightiest of uphill climb. Ahead of them, as they travel to the Bernabeu stadium in Madrid with the old heavily start in favor of the Spanish club. They again, Zinedine, they were too for Barcelona.
Well, another team with the commanding lead is five-time Champions League winners by Munich. They also secured a crucial away win in their quarterfinal. First leg, Bayern will now host the La Liga sides Sevilla with a 2 1 advantage. But it's the Bayern boss as he suggests, it could be a pretty dangerous won as well.
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[02:47:59] JUPP HEYNCKES, MANAGER, BAYERN MUNICH (through translator): When you lose 2-1 at home, and you still hope for a chance, then, you have to risk something. Then, you have to attack, take the initiative. But I'm sure Sevilla will do that some more. On the other side, we will be the one who's trying to avoid that, and we have designed our own game. We have our own plan, and we are, of course, going to play the way at home. Whether it's just the League, the German Cup, or the Champions League.
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RILEY: Now, he might have been as the man in the spotlight on Sunday, but even the new Masters champion, Patrick Reed, gets star struck. Hear from him next.
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[02:50:44] RILEY: Welcome back. The new Masters champion has been getting used to his new fan line life. Patrick Reed, and the iconic Master's green jacket has enduring the round with the media here in the United States. Taken in the sights and sounds of New York City, he also got some down time too in sounds unite us. And need to worry about getting the best seat in the house anymore.
The garden is in green on Monday night, Madison Square Garden. That is Reed, still wearing the jacket was caught site to the New York Knicks and the Cleveland Cavaliers. And in case, you are wondering, there is no rule, banning the green jacket from being worn as a basketball game.
Just as well then, and earlier, he took time out of the schedule to think, to CNN Alex Thomas on started by asking him about his mindset, heading into Augusta.
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PATRICK REED, CHAMPION, 2018 MASTERS TOURNAMENT: You know, a lot of times leading up in the majors, especially, your first -- you know, the first won of the year. You have this kind of sense the urgency that I have to go out and play well. You know, I have to make a lot of birdies had to this. And also, you just mentally psych yourself out. You just -- you build up enough so much that the moment becomes too large. And you know, I was able to just kind of -- you know, stick with my game plan, stick with that kind of mentality, just go out, play golf, it's still golf. You know, I just -- yes, it's Masters, but just go play golf. And you know, it helps me stand it mentally, and able to go out and just -- you know, wear the green jacket.
ALEX THOMAS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: But there was a lot easy set that dumb. But you certainly get it successfully. Which messages of congratulations event the most to you?
REED: You know, I got a call from Tiger Woods, got some from Tom Watson, Davis Love, Jim Furyk, you know, Lee Trevino, and you know, Bubba Watson. You know, he also greets your friend. I mean, just a lot of the guys that I have been seeing a lot of text message, just a lot of support. And it just that shows how close Nick Gruber, we are on PGA Tour, and you know, we're just one big family out there. Just -- you know, of course, we all want to win but as someone else does, we are there to support him and cheer him all along.
THOMAS: Do you already feel that you're being treated differently? Now you're the Masters Champion.
REED: Yes. You know, I do feel like I'm being treated a little differently, I mean, to finish the golf tournament flag to New York and to have the media tour going on. Going to -- you know, the next Cavs game last night. I never set courtside before, I'll always sit in courtside, next when I look to my lap it, and -- Chris rocks there.
I'm looking to my left, looking to my right. I'm like, I'm just -- I'm just a golfer. I mean, this are (INAUDIBLE) and -- you know, the ovations of the fans gave all of us, and you know, gave myself and everyday announce that they are aroused in the plays and he was awesome men. And to see -- you know, other athletes go out and play, you know, play basketball that close and up close like that. It was awesome to see.
THOMAS: We know, you're ambitious, we know your confidence. So, how would you feel then if the Masters was the only made the title you ended up with?
REED: Honestly, I'd be disappointed. You know, being 27 and having a taste on what it is in -- you know, to win a major and to be so close at PGA Championship last year, you know, finishing second. It -- you know, I've got over that hope. I've won the first one, so, I know, it can be done, you know, it's one thing to believe. It's not a thing to be I'll go ahead and do it. And you know, once you -- once you getting that winner circle, now, it's become a reality. You know it can be done and -- you know, I'd be -- I'd be disappointed for this was my only one.
THOMAS: And you talked about the camaraderie on the PGA Tour. All four majors held by Americans in their 20's, One of that say about how strong you can at be at the Ryder Cup, later this year.
REED: That's well about say. We're getting ready for prepare us to come over and -- you know, it's very for the game of golf. Because, I feel like now, we're trying to -- you know, they're passing the range from last generation. This generation to kind to take over at the game of golf. And those are -- those are some shoes I really, really hard to fill with the -- you, tiger and fill and stuff like that.
So, it's not going to be just one guy that has -- that's going to be of do that. I mean, what they achieve in the game of Golf. It's going to take a group of guys that play really so of golf. And you know, to have Rickie Jordan, Justin Thomas, myself. You know, Bruce (INAUDIBLE), quote, guys like that to come out and play some solid golf and play really well in contending with all tournaments that going to take a group like that. A full group to be I'll come out and -- you know, keep golf going.
THOMAS: And are we going to see the same (INAUDIBLE) Patrick Reed in France, was, when you're famous, they your lips. You became a sort of a bit of a (INAUDIBLE) Villanueva here. But many of the European fans actually loved it. I loved it, and so, took it as a bit of banned so really.
REED: Yes, you know, when I did that and then I came back over to plug my month later, I didn't know really what to expect in the fans are absolutely amazing overseas. I can't wait to come back. And then -- you know, I have some other tricks on my sleeves to get the fans, just to -- you know, go back and forth with them. Because it's such an awesome experience and it such a great time to go back overseas.
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RILEY: Many thanks to Patrick Reed, there. And a few needed a further reminder of his major breakthrough at Augusta National. As well as how closely came to being real in by fellow American golfers. It's all in our "ROLEX MINUTE".
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Augusta National Golf Club has a new champion. They arrived from 23 different countries. Somewhere on their first visit, some came with the experience of previous victories here. But none could overcome the (INAUDIBLE) of Patrick Reed, who held firm on the pressure to win the 82nd Masters Tournament.
It looks though like Jordan Spieth would be winning a second green jacket. A 2015 champion carded nine birdies on Sunday and pulled level with Reed on the 16th. But the bogey on the last stops him at 13 under and the third place overall. Second, went to Rickie Fowler, only one shorted drift. It's the American's eighth top-five finish in a major since 2011.
But Reed showed nerves of steel down the stretch, closing with 100 par 71, to win his first major championship.
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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Diplomatic threats and counter threats --
