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[18:00:00] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST, HLN CRIME AND JUSTICE: Good evening, everyone, I`m Ashleigh Banfield, welcome to "Crime and Justice."

David Copperfield wows hundreds of thousands of people on a nightly basis. He brings in millions of dollars on ticket sales, but now, he is having to

reveal how his grand finale number actually works, give up the magic, or at least most of it. Producer Justin Freiman is covering the less than

magical lawsuit. Justin, how much will he have to cough up?

JUSTIN FREIMAN, SR. PRODUCER, HLN CNN: He is going to have to cough a quite a bit, but maybe not everything. You know, we know him as a master

of illusion, but is he a master of that witness stand. At times, he seemed to be playing entertainer more than defendant.

BANFIELD: We are going to go inside that courtroom, and we are also going to do a few magic tricks of our own. Also, the drastic search tonight for

this Kentucky mother of two who went missing in the mud, in the woods, in the swamp, her ex-, and another man somehow made it out. But three weeks

later, she still hasn`t. Producer Michael Christian is on the case. Where is she?

MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, SENIOR FIELD PRODUCER, HLN: We don`t know, Ashleigh. She was last seen on March 28th. Where she is been since then is an

absolute mystery. We`ll tell you everything we know and we will tell you why the missing woman`s family thinks police aren`t doing enough to help

find her.

BANFIELD: OK. We look forward to it, Michael. Thank you. Also, the police chase that went from the streets to this nasty swamp where a perp

decided, he was going to hide himself in the mud.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get up. Stop being stupid, get up. Stop, stop, stop.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just shoot me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m not going to shoot you man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We ain`t going to shoot you. Stop resisting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m not resisting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give me your other hand.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop resisting.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: First, though, before we get to the perp whose k-9 capture actually led to some face licking, get to that in a moment.

First I want to get you close to a trial that is dangerously close to revealing the tricks of the trade. And these are mega million dollar

tricks in a trade that depends on mystery. It`s magic. Magician, David Copperfield, has already been forced to explain how this unbelievable

finale actually happens, how 13 members of his audience scurry through secret passageways and end up somehow in the back of the theater behind

everyone, this after being caged and hoisted above a stage. Now, let`s be clear, we all know how this happens. Right? Because now he is being sued

by one of his participants in having to say so.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DAVID COPPERFIELD, MAGICIAN: Keep it rolling. We`re good. Take them up into the air. Witnesses, make sure you can see all around the sides and

behind. Go. Go. Go. Hello, guys, hey, hello.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Pretty good stuff. We still don`t know, though, how the so- called Lucky 13, end up actually getting down from that dangling cage, right. Look, he is standing under the cage. How did they get down from

that cage? I get the secret passageway, come on, that is a no brainer. But the magic community is probably holding their breath right now.

Because if that other secret comes out in court, well, that is a problem.

Because the key to David Copperfield`s finale could be the cornerstone for other performers too. The evidence -- or at least the evidence that shows

this audience member who`s suing him, shows that he might actually care more about safety than secrecy. Because if he think he slipped and fell on

some construction dust when he was hustling from point A to point B in that trip and that Copperfield is not taking responsibility for this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I understand your defense in this case, yours, if somebody participated in the 13 illusion and they were injured, it`s their

fault, not yours. Yes or no?

COPPERFIELD: I can`t answer that as a yes or no question. It would depend on if he did anything wrong.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: And David Copperfield is saying they didn`t get anything wrong, because he reportedly walked those secret passageways himself, ten minutes

before his actual participants did, and that he didn`t see anything that was dangerous.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know that route, don`t you?

COPPERFIELD: I do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know that route.

COPPERFIELD: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As a matter of fact, it`s been a lot of talk how often you go that route. True?

[18:05:00] COATS: Ten minutes before they do, I do to inspect the entire route.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You do it?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: With me now, former prosecutor, Nicole DeBorde, also in the middle, Jesse Webber, host of the Law and Crime Network, and with us, too,

magician, Ben Nemzer, he is a performer with Monday Night Magic, the longest running of Broadway Magic Show in New York City. It is critical to

have a magician here.

BEN NEMZER, FEATURED PERFORMER, MONDAY NIGHT MAGIC: Glad to be here.

BANFIELD: The story`s important to magic. It look -- it`s fun to watch David Copperfield on the stand, in separate way, it is a big showman who is

going to court. But it`s important if the tricks of the trade have to be released, it is almost like saying McDonald`s, give me your secret sauce.

NEMZER: Yes.

BANFIELD: It`s not just about that burger, it is about that whole chain of restaurants, right? Look, this could really affect your business.

NEMZER: Well, yes, you know, and you hit the nail on the head, it`s not just David Copperfield. He has a whole team of people that he work -- that

he works with who create these illusions. So, he can`t just go and give them out, because people have this creative ownership over what`s been

created.

BANFIELD: OK. Before I get to the bones of it, and I want you to show me bones of magic that you can actually replicate in other tricks as well,

which is why you won`t well tell me, how these tricks work which is fuzzy crazy.

Jesse, the notion of seeing David Copperfield take the stand, I didn`t know what else could it get, I didn`t know if those are going to get the sober,

and articulate, and deadly serious guy or if he was going to sort of, Trump it all up and have some fun in that courtroom. It seems like he is been a

real showman in the courtroom too.

JESSE WEBER, HOST, LAW AND CRIME NETWORKS: Well, it`s been very interesting to watch for a guy who takes the stand and stage in front of

thousands of people. He was so quiet, so quiet, in fact, his defense attorney said, can you speak up a little bit? Now, at one point --

BANFIELD: Look at his smile. He is walking by the jury giving them a big grin.

WEBER: He is a performer. He is a natural performer, but I have to tell you, he is not comfortable on the stand, he doesn`t like being there, and

you can see that with the back and forth between Mr. Morelli, who is defense attorney for the plaintiff`s attorney, Mr. Cox.

Now, what was really interesting to watch is, Mr. Morelli wanted to get those answers from David Copperfield. Are you saying if somebody gets

injured, it`s their fault, Mr. Copperfield? He goes, I can`t answer that, if I did something wrong, then it is my fault and he would not give a yes

or no question.

BANFIELD: I always think it like, you know, it is sort of almost unfair for the plaintiffs, because they`ve got this witness who I think most of

the jurors are kind of staring at and wondering about and wondering about the magic and not maybe listening to the details, devils in the details.

But, I think Copperfield might have actually known that.

I want to play this one moment, I couldn`t help but noticing in court. I think they played some of his show tunes, something from one of his shows

and I want you to specifically watch David Copperfield`s body language as he himself is watching his own show and hearing his music. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

COPPERFIELD: And the music stops. Stairs over here, all the way down to the stairs over here, you ready? Are you ready? In the back, come on.

All the way back. Here comes another.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So he was bobbing his head on the witness stand.

WEBER: He loved it. He love -- that was a great night.

BANFIELD: You said he is uncomfortable. I saw a guy who has this in the bag. He is just so certain of his performance, but you`re not so sure?

WEBER: He is a natural performer, he knows how to hide any anxiety that he may have. This is a different kind of performance. And you have to see,

during his testimony he looked at the jury at some points and said, gave a face, can you believe this question I have to answer? What kind of

questions are these? Because sometimes attorneys have to ask these complicated questions and asinine question, but he is not happy to be here.

He wants to put this behind him and as you said, he wants it to put it behind for the magic community. They don`t want this secrets revealed.

BANFIELD: First, before I get to the magic, because that is coming. Trust me. Nicole, does it really matter how someone performs if he is a witness?

NICOLE DEBORDE, FORMER PROSECUTOR: It absolutely does. The impression that the person on the stand creates for the jury is critical. If a jury

doesn`t like the person who`s testifying, they`re going to have a really hard time believing what that person has to say. So, they kind a --

BANFIELD: Can they also get like razzle-dazzled by them, and not really hearing what`s being said, because they keep staring in to his Jersey cow

brown eyes.

DEBORDE: I think that is definitely a factor. And the reality is that performing on stage as a magician, the audience is looking for a positive

experience, they`re looking to be dazzled. When you`re sitting in the hot seat in a courtroom, jurors aren`t looking to be dazzled so much as they`re

looking to see if you can give good answers to tough questions. And that is a different environment all together.

BANFIELD: OK. So the thing I want to do, and I`m going to ask our control room, if we can run this tape of the perform -- of this finale, the Lucky

13, it is obviously very significant trick, because he holds it to the very end. So, it`s got to be the big wow, it is going to be the star burst of

all the fireworks, right. So, what a lousy trick for this to have happened, you know --

NEMZER: Sure.

BANFIELD: -- but what`s interesting is if you -- I`m no dummy. Look, none of us, we`re not dummies, we know that 12 people -- I`m sorry, that we know

13 people don`t disappear. We know they don`t disappear, and I kind of have an idea about Santa as well. But we`re not dummies so we know that

those 13 people somehow go through the belly of the beast and behind us, right?

[18:10:00] Folks, you`re with me, right. I hope you are with me, but what I don`t know is when we are watching this, how they get from this raised

cage and I think this will widen out a bit so that you will see, like they`re all seated in that cage, and it goes up high off the stage before

that curtain goes around and you can see under it and you don`t see anybody`s adorable little feet jumping off into it, down into a trap door

and you don`t see any of the stage hands adorable feet jumping onto it to, you know, to wave the flashlights around because the flashlights are

supposed to signify the people inside. How do they get below it? This is the part of the secret that has not been released. And I don`t know that

it will be. Because the guy who got hurt did not get hurt there.

NEMZER: Right.

BANFIELD: He got hurt in the belly of the beast when they were running all those passageways.

NEMZER: Right.

BANFIELD: So, if they do release that really magical part, Ben, does that bode terribly for other tricks, not just of Copperfield`s, but of yours,

and everybody else at Monday Night Magic and all across the country?

NEMZER: Well, you know, everybody thinks they want to know -- they want to know how the secret works.

BANFIELD: I wanted it.

NEMZER: The truth is, you think you do. And the moment you find out, you go, oh -- you want to believe in magic. And I think, I think everybody

thinks of secrecy as a clandestine or malicious type of idea, but -

BANFIELD: But it`s delightful.

NEMZER: It is delightful, really secrecy is the most important ingredient in creating wonder and David -- yes.

BANFIELD: OK. Just, you know, for years and years everybody has always said, oh it`s all done with mirrors, smoking mirrors and I`m looking at

that stage and that raised platform and thinking can you put mirrors in there to mask those little feet jumping off?

NEMZER: No, no.

BANFIELD: So, it`s not as simple as that.

NEMZER: David Copperfield has the best team in the world working with him. And everything he does is not going to be a simplified by smoke and

mirrors.

BANFIELD: So, is he different than everybody else, meaning, has he come up a way -- again to unmask those little feet jumping off the platform. I

know they got off the platform, dammit, I know they got off the platform, I know, because 13 people every night tell you they got off the platform.

NEMZER: Absolutely.

BANFIELD: But as an audience member, looking at that video, how did they do it? And I guess, my question has to be more pointed, that part of the

trick, if he has to reveal it, does that damage, a tool of the trade that many other magicians use to mask movement.

NEMZER: You know, maybe a little bit. But I feel like a lot of David Copperfield`s secrets are so unique and they`re hidden even from other

magicians.

BANFIELD: Really?

NEMZER: Yes. A lot of magicians don`t know how his things work.

BANFIELD: Seriously? You can`t tell me I`ve got that in the bag?

NEMZER: You know, here`s the thing, I`m not going to comment on that. But I will tell you that even when David Copperfield commissions some of the

best illusion builders and designers and creative team, he`ll have one team develop one part and another team develop another part and he`ll have his

team put it together. So other magicians don`t even know all of the secrets.

BANFIELD: I don`t have any tricks on this set. We are not -- we don`t have much budget, but you`ve got a trick for me.

NEMZER: I do. I do. Absolutely.

BANFIELD: This is a simple one. We want to show you that sometimes you don`t need smoke, mirrors and millions of dollars to wow people.

NEMZER: Absolutely. This was inspired by one of the trick that I saw David Copperfield do and he is walking through the Great Wall of China

Special.

BANFIELD: OK.

NEMZER: It uses two elastic rubber bands, and it is just the slight of hands which is the most difficult type of magic, because it just uses your

hands and ordinary objects, and you will notice and no matter what I do, I can twist and I can turn and I can`t get to the other side, but if I uses

magic, they can pass right through each other.

BANFIELD: What if I am holding it?

NEMZER: Let us do it again, let us do it slower and I`ll even let you hold it.

BANFIELD: No.

(CROSSTALK)

(LAUGHTER)

NEMZER: Go like this, good choice in fingers. Close that tight. And on of it reach across to Jesse and put your left finger right through there.

Close that tight. Perfect you are going to hold it just like that.

BANFIELD: OK.

NEMZER: This time, I`m going to let go.

BANFIELD: Wait, I want it against the black jacket. So that they can really see.

NEMZER: There you go.

BANFIELD: Just focus -- like get yourself positioned so those bright lights behind you aren`t masking this.

NEMZER: Now If I let it go --

BANFIELD: Do a little bit more, yes.

NEMZER: You can see, I really am on the --

BANFIELD: He is on the outside, I will attest to it, if you can`t see it at home he is absolutely on the outside of our elastic band.

NEMZER: If I go over, I`m stuck, and now I`m telling you I`m going to go right through the middle. You can feel when I pull this way?

BANFIELD: Yes.

NEMZER: You can see I`m on the other side, feel this way, if I use magic it still goes right through?

BANFIELD: Do it again.

(LAUGHTER)

NEMZER: I`ll do it, but just for you. I`ll do it halfway at a time. OK?

BANFIELD: Do I have time before -- I`m going rogue here, friends. I`m all Sarah Palin on you.

NEMZER: here is the first half, right? You could see that ring right on there.

BANFIELD: Oh come on.

NEMZER: And the second half, I have to cheat a little bit, if I juts -- pardon me, there we go. You know, maybe that was cheating too much. Let`s

put that one right back together.

BANFIELD: Whoa, hang on.

NEMZER: Just like magic.

BANFIELD: Oh, come on. Show that again, hold it up against your black jacket.

NEMZER: One, two, three.

BANFIELD: Oh my God.

WEBER: Wow.

[18:15:00] BANFIELD: That was so great. Can we change and do a magic show?

NEMZER: I`m in.

BANFIELD: I`ll bet you`re in. OK, so we know got the resident magician to weigh in on the facts of the case, the evidence of the trial, and all about

the magic part. Does he really know his stuff? Can he make Jesse Weber disappear?

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: That is next.

[18:20:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Welcome back, we are still talking about that magic show finale that has wowed hundreds of thousands of people only now it may not wow as

many people, because we`re starting to learn pretty much how it happens, how 13 of David Copperfield`s audience members, who are suspended in a cage

above the stage, somehow disappear from sight, but then end up positioned in the back of the theater, behind the audience. Well, obviously they

don`t really disappear, right? Sorry to break the bubble here. They hustle through a series of passageways. That is the stuff that Copperfield

and this team have had to cough up in this courtroom, because it`s in one of those passageways that a British tourist right here with the glasses on

says, he slipped and fell on construction dust. He says he is been seriously injured in that fall as well.

But David Copperfield won`t take responsibility for it, instead taking the stand he has been defending his magic. And also distracting from the piece

of the puzzle that he hasn`t been forced to reveal yet. And of course it`s what we all want to know. How the hell do those Lucky 13 get out of that

dangling cage, up there on the stage in front of our very eyes and somehow virtually disappear before our very eyes?

Still with me, former prosecutor, Nicole DeBorde, Jesse Weber is here too, host of Law and Crime Network and magician, Ben Nemzer, a featured

performer on Monday Night Magic, one of the longest of Broadway running shows -- magic shows in New York City and the reason is so important to

hear from a magician. This isn`t just about David Copperfield. Yes, David Copperfield, stands to lose a lot of money, if he has to give up his trade

secrets. He is already cancelled that last finale, the Lucky 13 -- he doesn`t run anymore.

WEBER: It`s not there anymore.

BANFIELD: When? When did that happen?

WEBER: As probably as soon as all this happened. I mean, how could you have that trick still going on when it`s based upon a pending litigation?

But we talked about it actually the other day, which was interesting is, that trick had to be reeled, because 100,000 people already know how it

works. They already know how it works, but the judge, I want to make this clear, the judge put in an order and saying, I`m going to make sure that

none of your other tricks are revealed in court. I understand this is your livelihood, I understand what this means for the whole community. I want

to make sure none of your other tricks get revealed. However, this trick is the basis of this entire lawsuit. So, it`s interesting, Ashleigh when

you said we you don`t know how they get off the platform, because that part really wasn`t the basis of the lawsuit. It`s really going through those

passages -- passage ways, where he did he slip or trip?

BANFIELD: Right. So, interestingly, I can see it`s all connected, and I`m sure Nicole, you probably feel this way too, as a litigator, you would say

look, it is all one big act, this is a hurried motion, this participants get up on the stage, there`s music and fireworks and flashbangs, get down,

quickly, go this way, go that way, get down here, so it could be considered all one part of one big motion. The magical part that we don`t know, which

is, how did they get off the platform and then all the running through the passageways. Could you argue to the Judge, by the way, Jesse just

confirmed he is still on the stand. He is not done yet and he hasn`t cough up that first magic part.

WEBER: 45 minutes he was on the stand yesterday. He is coming back to court on Tuesday.

BANFIELD: So would you, Nicole, force him as he gets back up on the stand, smiling as he does at the jury, to have to cough up that other stuff, that

really magical stuff on stage, even though the injury happened down in the passageways.

DEBORDE: It`s possible. It`s going to be up to the Judge to determine whether that part of the testimony, that part of what happen is relevant to

how this injury happened. You hit the nail on the head earlier when you said, is this important to when he tripped and fell and where he tripped

and fell? If the Judge thinks so, that evidence is coming in.

BANFIELD: So I want to play a little bit of David Copperfield on the stand again, because I just like to see how he does under pressure. The

plaintiff`s attorney is pretty grilling, like he interrupt at a time.

WEBER: As he is supposed to be. He did not get the answer that he wanted. He wanted a yes, he wanted a no. And David Copperfield, it depends, I am

trying to be truthful to the jury. He says you want to be truthful to the jury, wait until your attorney cross-examines, not on my questions.

BANFIELD: The information in this part of his testimony is interesting, but it`s really his demeanor and -- well, look, you be the Judge of how

David Copperfield performs on the stand. But this is where he is asked about you ran down ten minutes before, doing another trick, he was down in

(inaudible) of the theater, you ran that route with like blinders on, hey, did you happen to notice a big old dumpster.

No one is alleging that the dumpster was part of the accident, but it`s one of those things that the lawyer`s trying to say, if you didn`t even see the

dumpster, how could you have seen something that might have made my guy trip? I think, that is where they`re going with this. But let`s watch the

performance, take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You go like a horse, with blinders on, correct?

COPPERFIELD: I was focusing on the path where the audience would eventually go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were like a horse with blinders on. You said tunnel vision. Is that what you mean by that?

COPPERFIELD: I am not focusing, tunnel vision, only thinking about the audience going through this space, making sure it was clear.

[18:25:06] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. You weren`t thinking about -- you weren`t noticing everything, your peripherals weren`t in use at that time.

COPPERFIELD: I was looking for the tape, the cup, the things, all those things that I used.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You did not notice the dumpster that was, like you said today, very big, I would have noticed it, but you didn`t notice it, did

you, yes or no, did you notice it that night?

COPPERFIELD: I can`t answer a yes or no question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: I can`t take my eyes off those big old puppy dog eyes, I`m sorry, I love David Copperfield. But he was actually, Jesse, at one point

described to have puppy dog eyes. One of our producers who is watching all the testimony said he kept looking over at the jury and addressing the jury

with these giant puppy dog eyes. I`m kind of wondering if that is part of the magic in the courtroom.

WEBER: I think it is for twofold, one, you want to be like fall on the jury, plus he gets a new audience members for his show, I think it is a

win-win for him for the eye.

NEMZER: New audience members, he is one of the most famous magicians and one of the most successful live entertainers in the entire world. And you

brought up the point that, you said, oh, you think he is a little uncomfortable and you brought up the point that he stands to lose a lot of

money. And I would honestly disagree with both points. I see him laughing there. And I think he is above all of this. You know, he is worth almost

a billion dollars.

BANFIELD: What if he has to cough up that magic part? Again, I`m going to just tell my audience again, I don`t believe that 13 people disappear and

reappear. I know they run through a tunnel. That part`s been coughed up. That doesn`t wow me.

NEMZER: Here is the thing.

BANFIELD: What wows me is how he got them off that platform. If he has to cough that up, does that cost him?

NEMZER: I think he is bigger than the secrets.

BANFIELD: Really?

NEMZER: He has so much under his belt.

BANFIELD: Wow.

NEMZER: That he might even scrap this trick entirely and come out with something better. But the truth of the matter is, when you`re worth over a

billion dollars and you agree rather than paying a settlement for $400,000. $400,000 he could spend on lunch.

BANFIELD: He doesn`t have to be on the stand?

NEMZER: He don`t have to be on the stand at all, he could have made this go away like that. I think its ethics versus principle, and I think he has

something to prove that --

BANFIELD: Did you just say, he could have made it go away like that, right? I really believe you. I want you to show me another trick. Again,

it`s all about the secrecy, right? It is all about the secrets of magic and whether you can actually see-through when you are this close.

NEMZER: So, watch closely.

BANFIELD: OK.

NEMZER: So you can see what we can do. We`re going to do a card trick here. I`d like everybody to participate. So let`s agree on a card, rather

than picking a card. So would you tell me, red or black, what color would you like?

BANFIELD: Red.

NEMZER: Re, so there are 13 different red cards, you choose hearts or diamonds?

WEBER: Hearts.

NEMZER: Hearts, and then any heart you like, Ace, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, --

DEBORDE: Jack.

NEMZER: Jack of Hearts, here`s how I`m going to find the jack of hearts, I`m not going to look through the deck trying to find the Jack of Hearts,

I`m just going to turn about half the deck the wrong direction, and I`ll do this nice for the camera, you can see some cards are face up, some cards

are face down and they`ll actually interlace nearly every other card.

BANFIELD: Yes, OK.

NEMZER: You see those going in there?

BANFIELD: You`re very good at that.

NEMZER: Oh, thank you very much. So now we don`t know where your card is.

BANFIELD: We didn`t know where it was before.

NEMZER: Exactly. You arbitrarily named a card, and now cards are all facing all different directions, face up, and face down, finding any card

in here becomes, well, pretty much impossible. I will do the best I can, so you said, red, hearts and -- the king of hearts, you said?

DEBORDE: I said jack.

NEMZER: Oh Jack of Hearts.

DEBORDE: Yes.

NEMZER: Like this.

BANFIELD: We`re doing well here, guys.

NEMZER: Now, every single card in the deck is facing the same direction.

BANFIELD: How did you do that?

NEMZER: Except for one of them.

BANFIELD: No way. Not a chance.

NEMZER: Yes way.

WEBER: Wow.

BANFIELD: Oh my god.

(APPLAUSE)

NEMZER: Thank you very much.

BANFIELD: Holy cow.

You should hear the control room, they`re all like can`t breathe. I don`t even know what that instruction was. How many minutes do I have left? Do

I have -- OK, can you do another one? I`m like a kid at a magic show.

NEMZER: You know, it is funny, when you talk about kids and secrets I was performing at a cocktail party, at the (inaudible), a younger boy and the

older sibling, who was being celebrated. They said how did you do that? I said I could tell you, I have to kill you.

BANFIELD: That is really what this kid is about.

NEMZER: Smartest kid I ever met, looked at me and said, tell my sister.

BANFIELD: That is awesome.

NEMZER: So, let us do one more.

BANFIELD: Yes, let`s do another one.

NEMZER: If you don`t mind me reaching, would you pull out a card for me.

WEBER: This one appears in my pocket --

NEMZER: I`m allowed to see what it is. That is the 10 of hearts.

BANFIELD: And the audience can they hold it out so they can see.

DEBORDE: A 10 of hearts.

NEMZER: And I would like you to write your name nice and big on that for me.

DEBORDE: OK.

NEMZER: So in this way in the end, if we forget what card is, all we have to do is, find your name. And you pull out a card as well, please.

BANFIELD: I still can`t believe the jack of hearts thing. I`m so blown away. How did you do it?

NEMZER: Well, I can`t tell.

BANFIELD: Once again, it`s what the story is all about.

NEMZER: I`ll take them back and I will show them to the camera again in a moment. Thank you so much. All right. You`re going to be in charge. So

the first card is the six of clubs, can everybody see that.

BANFIELD: That is Jesse`s.

NEMZER: And I would like you to hold that in your fist like this. Nice and tight. Let me ask a question. On a scale from one to 10, how sure are you

that it`s still the six of clubs?

BANFIELD: A hundred percent.

NEMZER: Hundred percent. What do you think?

JESSE WEBER, HOST, LAW AND CRIME NETWORK: It`s not, it`s not.

NEMZER: Not.

(LAUGHTER)

NEMZER: And you?

NICOLE DEBORDE, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Fifty percent chance.

NEMZER: Fifty percent. Turn it over.

BANFIELD: Oh, God.

NEMZER: Of course it is, I didn`t do anything.

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: Six of clubs. Girl wins, OK.

NEMZER: This card is Nicole`s card, with her name right there, I`ll hold that to the camera as well.

BANFIELD: OK.

NEMZER: And we`re going to switch the cards. So all I want you to do is without looking, tell me, do you think you know what card is in your hand

without turning it over?

BANFIELD: Yes, I think it`s Nicole`s card --

NEMZER: OK.

BANFIELD: -- because I was looking at your other hand to see if you are slipping another one.

NEMZER: OK, good.

BANFIELD: And I can still see there`s not another card.

NEMZER: I`m going to switch even slower.

BANFIELD: Oh, my God. Seriously?

NEMZER: Have you lost track yet?

BANFIELD: No, I have Jesse`s card.

NEMZER: This is the part that tricks everybody. I wish I had Jesse`s card.

(LAUGHTER)

NEMZER: All you have to do is tell me which card is which.

BANFIELD: This is Nicole`s.

NEMZER: So, for the record, she says the top one is Nicole`s.

BANFIELD: This is Nicole`s on the top. And Jesse`s is below.

NEMZER: Have a look.

BANFIELD: OK, so this is Nicole`s.

NEMZER: That`s the ace of diamonds.

BANFIELD: OK, that`s crazy.

NEMZER: And the other one.

BANFIELD: I have not let go of this, I haven`t. Oh, my God.

NEMZER: There`s the ace of hearts. Just for playing, I`m going to give out some prizes. A consolation prize. I have it end up in my back pocket.

BANFIELD: No.

WEBER: No way.

BANFIELD: No. No.

NEMZER: Would you open that for me?

BANFIELD: This is not -- no, this is impossible.

NEMZER: There`s my metro card, that`s how I got here.

BANFIELD: Show to camera. Make sure they can see what you`re doing. OK.

NEMZER: Oh, look, here`s your card.

BANFIELD: Oh, my God.

NEMZER: I`m going to pass -- that should be the six of clubs.

BANFIELD: Oh, my God.

NEMZER: How did we do with that ten of hearts?

BANFIELD: Seriously, are you kidding? Oh, my God.

(LAUGHTER)

WEBER: Oh, my gosh.

BANFIELD: That is crazy. And, you know what? It`s not like I haven`t seen magic before, but when it`s this close.

WEBER: Oh, thank you.

DEBORDE: Awesome, thank you.

WEBER: That`s amazing, wow.

NEMZER: My pleasure. My pleasure.

BANFIELD: I`m only going to tell you, people, none of this was done beforehand. I met you when I got up on the set about what, a minute and a

half before showtime. I had to shake his hand barely looking at him. That`s amazing.

NEMZER: Thank you very much. It`s a pleasure to be here.

BANFIELD: I hope you never have to give those tricks up --

NEMZER: Me too.

BANFIELD: -- because I hope you continue to amaze. And I hope that they can settle this amicably in Vegas. And I really hope they don`t tell me how

it works. I really don`t think I want to know. You`re right. It`s the magic of it all. What seems like magic. But I they`re running, that part I know.

(LAUGHTER)

BANFIELD: Thank you. Ben, great job. Ben Nemzer, I`m going to give you the plug again. Monday Night Magic, featured performer in New York City.

NEMZER: There we go.

BANFIELD: So Google that next time you`re coming. And Jesse Weber, you`re not going anywhere either because you got to continue covering this. Thank

you.

(LAUGHTER)

WEBER: Absolutely.

BANFIELD: All right. I got another piece here on the docket that I want to bring to your attention. Police say three weeks ago, a woman named Samantha

Sperry, she went into the Kentucky woods on an ATV, and she was out looking for her suicidal ex-boyfriend.

The ex-boyfriend has since returned from those woods, dehydrated and suffering from hypothermia, but not Samantha. So what happened there?

[18:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Kaler Bottoms is a wildlife area in Western Kentucky, 1,900 acres of woods and swamps that pretty much turn into mud every spring. That

is reportedly where Samantha Sperry went three weeks ago, riding on an ATV with another man.

She`s a 25-year-old married mom of two and she was out searching for his suicidal ex-boyfriend. And that`s where Samantha Sperry went missing.

According to her family, police would only start looking for her a whole week later.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TONY ARTIS, STEPFATHER OF MISSING WOMAN: Monday, this whole parking lot was full with people, with compassion, helping us look for my daughter. Not

one officer was in those woods on Monday. I`m thankful for the officers that got involved since Monday. But before then, nothing.

DEWAYNE REDMON, SHERIFF, GRAVES COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE: I don`t have a problem with them blaming us or saying we`re not doing everything that we

can. But I`ll have to say that we are. We`ve probably put more time and effort into this particular missing person`s case than any others that

we`ve had.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But the only missing person that we`re looking for right now is Samantha because her ex-, well, he made it out of those wetlands. He was

dehydrated. He was hypothermic. But he made it out alive.

[18:39:56] And the other man who Samantha was reportedly riding with, well, he told police that she just went off and walked to a relative`s

house. But Samantha did not show up at that relative`s house.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARTIS: I can`t sleep, knowing that my child could be out here somewhere. A man doesn`t want to see his family hurt. And I feel that I`ve let my

daughter down.

I just hope that we do find her alive. I mean, you know, I hope she`s not in these woods. I hope she`s somewhere else alive. I mean, that`s what hope

is.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me now is Shelley Byrne, a reporter with The Mayfield Messenger. Also with me, Tony Artis. He is Samantha Sperry`s stepfather.

Tony, maybe I`ll start with you and just if you can, let me know what the very latest is in this search for her. Are you getting any leads? Are you

any closer to finding her?

ARTIS (via telephone): Any closer to finding her, no. Yes, calls are coming in. In my understanding, they are checking the -- the sheriff`s

department are checking leads. That`s what we`re being told. So --

BANFIELD: As we understand this, Rhen apparently -- Rhen is the ex- boyfriend who Samantha went out to look for. And Rhen apparently on the day he went missing, he had an argument with Samantha. He left in her car.

And sometime later in the day, he was on the phone or in some communication with his own mom and his own sister saying that he was suicidal, had a

shotgun, took pills, and was in the woods.

And Samantha went with an unidentified man to go look for him. Do we know who this unidentified man is or are the police keeping that quiet for a

reason?

ARTIS (via telephone): Well, the information you just stated actually came from Rhen`s family. We really don`t know what happened that day. Do we know

who the other man is? Yes, we do.

BANFIELD: But obviously he`s not a suspect in any of this. He is not been named at least as such, so it`s not fair to name him in any of this.

ARTIS (via telephone): Yes, you`re right.

BANFIELD: But I`m still curious, Tony, about the process. She went missing. And Samantha`s mom was very worried and reached out to the police.

How did that go?

ARTIS (via telephone): Well, we got the call -- we got a message from Samantha`s brother about the car being abandoned, and Rhen being suicidal

and having a shotgun and going in the woods. He asked if his sister was with him, with Rhen. And my wife went to where she works, and she was a no

call no show.

She called the local police department, and asked them to do a welfare check. And they were -- she was told if they have an officer available.

They said they would call back and never called back.

BANFIELD: What happened when she asked them to file a missing person`s report because she had said, you know, she`s out there, and this ex-

boyfriend of hers is suicidal and might have a weapon, what happened then?

ARTIS (via telephone): They told her being that my daughter is an adult, it`s not illegal for an adult to go missing and blew my wife off. And that

was the local -- that was the local police department where my daughter lived.

BANFIELD: I`m going to ask the sheriff about that in a moment. First, I want to bring in Shelley Byrne, if I can. Shelley, you`re a reporter with

the Mayfield Messenger, you know this area. Give me a feel for just how frenzied the search for Samantha is right now. Who`s there? What are they

using? How much are they able to cover this swampland?

SHELLEY BYRNE, REPORTER, THE MAYFIELD MESSENGER (via telephone): The search has been intense. There have been searches the last three

weekends. There were 130 people out there on Sunday from nine different counties searching four square miles.

They were using dogs, horses, all terrain vehicles. They`ve used boats. They`ve searched with night vision goggles and they even got a helicopter

in the air for a brief period.

BANFIELD: And nothing. They haven`t found a clue, just nothing? I`m hearing that some of these ATVs that are out on the search are getting

stuck in the mud because this is such a difficult place to search.

BYRNE (via telephone): They haven`t found anything that I have been told about at all. And yes, I`ve heard that the ATVs have been getting stuck and

also some horse trailers got stuck on Sunday.

BANFIELD: I`m also finding here in some of the research that the people who`ve been out looking have been actually up to their necks in water at

times trying to search for this young woman, 3,000 acres of densely wooded area.

[18:45:08] In the meantime, while they`re searching for her, Shelley, do we know anything about Rhen Hendrickson coming out of the woods in the

condition he was in? Is he a suspect? Are they questioning him? Or is he no part of this? Or is all of it a mystery?

BYRNE (via telephone): I don`t think there`s been anything said about whether he is a suspect. I would refer you to the sheriff for that

information. I have not heard one way or another

I was told that although Rhen was early on in that area, that she and this male friend of hers had gone searching and on the ATV, and that she was

with this male friend when they got their ATV stuck and came out an a rural road, and she said she was going to a relative who live nearby.

BANFIELD: And that did not happen. All right. So, obviously a lot of questions for the sheriff in this case. And that`s who I am going to speak

to next. Don`t go away.

[18:50:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We are still talking about that young Kentucky mom who mysteriously went missing in the woods three weeks ago on an ATV, 25-year-

old Samantha Sperry, married mother of two, reportedly on that ATV heading into the muddy backwoods to search for her suicidal ex-boyfriend, who by

the way, showed up after four days, and Samantha did not.

I`m joined now by Sheriff Dewayne Redmon of Graves County, Kentucky. Sheriff, thank you for being on the program. I`m sure you are able to hear

some of my interview prior to the break. The family of Samantha is very concerned that the search for her took a week. It took a week before anyone

went out.

She`s concerned that nobody wanted to file a missing person`s report, even though there was this report of an ex-boyfriend suicidal with a gun

potentially. And she felt as though the case -- they felt that the case wasn`t taken seriously. How do you respond to that?

REDMON (via telephone): Well, the case was taken seriously. I mean, the agency they went to first, which was where she lived, not in Graves County,

didn`t take a missing person`s report at that time. But once she came into Graves County, into our office, we took the missing person`s report, and we

began to search.

I think she was reported to us missing on Thursday. We done a search that following Friday with several deputies out that day searching the area. The

problem that we were having, of course we didn`t have a -- I guess you could say a good location for a search.

You were talking, it`s kind of like an area that she went missing in is a wildlife refuge and bottomland. We`ve had a lot of rain and that area is

very flooded. So ATVs, we`re getting them all stuck and trying to wade through water. So search efforts on that particular day were very

difficult. And so since then there`s been two or three different searches that`s occurred since that time.

BANFIELD: Can I ask you? I`m so mystified by this story. Samantha goes into the woods with an unidentified man on an ATV to look for her ex-

boyfriend. The ex-boyfriend comes out, and then the story goes that Samantha and the unidentified man come out and part ways. Is the -- first

of all, can you tell me who the unidentified man is?

REDMON (via telephone): I don`t want to name his name right now, no.

BANFIELD: OK. Is that --

REDMON (via telephone): He was just a friend of the person --

BANFIELD: Of Samantha.

REDMON (via telephone): It was a friend of the person that originally went missing.

BANFIELD: OK. So it`s a friend of Samantha`s.

REDMON (via telephone): Yes.

BANFIELD: Is that man a suspect in her disappearance?

REDMON (via telephone): He is being questioned, yes. I mean, along with the person that she, you know, went looking for.

BANFIELD: So her ex-boyfriend is being questioned, as is the man who went searching for the ex-boyfriend with her, last person apparently to have

been with her, but neither one is a suspect at this time, sir?

REDMON (via telephone): Yes, I mean, you know, basically until we find a body or find her, you know, determine, you know, what has happened to her.

I mean they are both persons of interest. Like I said, they both -- like I said, they`re being questioned. One has taken a polygraph and the other one

is scheduled to take one.

BANFIELD: Oh, that`s interesting. I hope they don`t find a body. I hope they find her. But it has been freezing cold for the number of days that

she`s been gone, several weeks.

REDMON (via telephone): Yes, three weeks ago Wednesday she`s been missing, yes.

BANFIELD: Sheriff, thanks so much for being with us. My thanks to Tony Artis as well and also Shelley Byrne for reporting.

I have one more thing for you tonight. If you are ever trying to elude the police, I have one suggestion. Don`t go to a place like this. You`re about

to find out why.

[18:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: One more thing for you tonight. How far would you go to outrun the cops?

[19:00:01] Me, none, but I don`t know. How about this guy who went deep into a Florida swamp, and not only that, how about ending up neck deep in

the mud to attempt to hide from them? But they had a k-9, and that k-9 was tracking him happily. Look at the k-9 licking him. I mean, you should see

k-9 so angry, right. But this guy is like -- and it almost looks like the perp has to laugh too. But this perp is not going to be smiling for much

longer. He is actually facing a laundry list of charges. But he had a lovely moment with a puppy dog.

Next hour of CRIME AND JUSTICE starts right now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s their fault, not yours, yes or no.

BANFIELD: One of the world`s greatest magicians.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can`t answer that yes or no question.

BANFIELD: Steps into a brand new spotlight.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If someone is on the route, and they fall and get injured, it`s never your fault?

BANFIELD: But, boy does he perform, while defending the safety of his act.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It wouldn`t be my fault. I`d have to be an expert to know if it`s my fault.

BANFIELD: He`s asked not to grand stand while he`s on the stand.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is my courthouse because I pay taxes.

BANFIELD: He rankles the attorneys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can I ask if you would please not give speeches?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I don`t think it`s funny, by the way.

BANFIELD: He even bobs along to his own show tunes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But will his charm work on the jury?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have said being a magician is being nothing, if not an entertainer.

BANFIELD: And is there a mystery to his magic trick that he has not yet revealed?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Keep it rolling. We are good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can`t sleep knowing that my child could be out here somewhere.

BANFIELD: Three weeks into the search for a missing married mom.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stubborn as can be, and strong willed. I think she can survive this.

BANFIELD: Why did she go aTVing in the wetlands? And who else might have been with her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have probably put more time and effort into this particular missing person`s case than any others that any others we have

had.

BANFIELD: Is there anything to be learned from her ex showing up with hypothermia?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s a chance that we are not going to get her back alive.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. Welcome to the second hour of CRIME & JUSTICE.

Audiences aren`t stupid, right? They see everything. I could barely scratch my nose or change my eyewear without you all tweeting about it,

right. But no matter how observant you might be, I`m going to guarantee you this. You would not be able to figure out how David Copperfield gets

13 people dangling in a cage before your very eyes to somehow disappear and reappear behind you.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Keep it rolls, we are good. Take them up into the air. Witnesses, make sure you can see all around the sides and behind. Go, go,

go. Hello, guys, hey, hello.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: I know those people end up in some kind of a tunnel in some kind of hustle all the way through the belly of a theater to get where they need

to go. Right? We are not stupid. But here is what I don`t know, and I would dare say you don`t know either, how do they get from that hanging

cage down somehow through the floor and into the tunnel?

Keeping that part of the trick a secret is the key to the final act of David Copperfield`s Vegas show. That final act is called the lucky 13.

And it`s probably the key to the countless other magic acts that he performs. And also the key to magic acts for thousands of other magicians

right across America, which means if David Copperfield has to spill the beans, and tell that secret in open court, which means we put it on TV,

that`s not good.

But he may have to. He`s been accused of injuring one of the 13 people that come up on the stage. And he is going to, sadly, ruin a trick, maybe

even ruin part of an art that goes back for centuries. So this may be a bit bigger than David Copperfield.

Fortunately, for the magic community, he seems to be doing everything he cannot to tell that part of the trick, or a lot of it anyway. Though, he

might be asked to do so because he is stuck in this performance that he does not want to be in -- on the stand, in order to defend the safety of

his act.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

[19:05:25] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You believe that if someone was selected and they participated in the illusion, and they were injured, that no matter

what happened it`s not your fault?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Objection, privilege.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Privilege?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Overruled.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s not your fault.

DAVID COPPERFIELD, MAGICIAN: It would depend on what happened. If I did something wrong, it would be my fault.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Well, that`s deadly serious, now, isn`t it? Over 100,000 people have scurried through those tunnels in this exact trick without ever having

a problem. And they have helped to make that magic happen. That`s according to David Copperfield`s defense team. But now one of those

100,000 or so people says he did slip, he did fall, and it did happen in one of those secret passageways in the belly of the theater. And he says

he is less concerned about the secrecy than the safety.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you agree that the -- that certain things during the route could be dangerous? Do you agree with that?

COPPERFIELD: I don`t agree with that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: With me now to talk this through, former prosecutor Nicole Deborde, Jesse Weber, host of Law and Crime Network, and magician Michael

Chout. He is the creator and founder of Monday Night Magic, the longest running off Broadway magic show in New York City. And he is here to amaze.

That happens in a moment. OK, great tease.

First to you, Jesse, the thing that we all know is that honestly those people don`t disappear and reappear. Sorry, Michael. But what we don`t

know is that magical moment on the stage right before our eyes we don`t see all those little feet getting down off the platform. And up till now David

Copperfield hasn`t had to say boo about that. Do we think he is going to be able to keep that part a secret? It is a huge part.

JESSE WEBER, HOST, LAWS & CRIME NETWORK: Well, he sure wants to. And really, that you can`t forget where Mr. Cox got injured. He got injured in

the back when they were trying to scurry all the participants away and come back to -- as you saw in the trick when they come back into the audience.

So if he wasn`t injured during the course of getting off that elevated platform, I would argue what is the relevance of bringing that in? And

let`s not forget the judge here is very careful, and said to David Copperfield`s attorneys, I don`t want to reveal any of your tricks unless I

have to. And particularly for any other tricks that he has, I don`t want to reveal those because this is a livelihood. This is an industry, and he

understands that.

At the same time, if something about getting those participants off of that stage resulted in this man`s injuries, then we are going to have to

understand what happened here as much as David Copperfield and his defense team don`t want that to happen.

BANFIELD: So Michael, are you and your fellow magicians across the country sort of steaming mad that this is happening, that David Copperfield is

going to have to do what is so (INAUDIBLE) all magicians and that is to tell how the secret works?

MICHAEL CHAUT, CREATOR/FOUNDER, MONDAY NIGHT MAGIC: I don`t think it`s really about us being angry. I think it`s more so the people at home.

Because I don`t think people really want to know the secrets of magicians.

BANFIELD: Really?

CHAUT: Yes.

BANFIELD: But everyone is tuning into this story. It`s on Good Morning America. It is the Today Show. It is on CBS This Morning. It is on this

show al night because they are kind of curious. How does he do it?

CHAUT: I hate to bring up the fact that about 20 years ago there was a mass guy who had a TV show on another. And that show doesn`t exist

anymore.

BANFIELD: Hey, which one is that?

CHAUT: It was the masked magician. And he was on a network that I won`t mention.

BANFIELD: Was the unmasking? And I might missed it.

CHAUT: He was. He was unmasking the secrets. And when they found out was that the viewership went down every week because people didn`t want to

know. It`s sort of like telling a child there`s no --

BANFIELD: Don`t say it. Don`t say what you are about to say about that Christmas guy. But what`s the first question you get when you show

somebody something amazing?

CHAUT: How do you do that trick?

BANFIELD: How do you that?

CHAUT: Yes.

BANFIELD: So why don`t you think we really want to know?

CHAUT: Because, you know, people say to me, what do you do for a living? And I tell them I turn adults into children again. We did instill that

sense of wonder and hope in people. And it`s such a great thing. I was at an event on Saturday night with some of the biggest executives in the city,

and I had a guy just like a kid again.

BANFIELD: And I think you`re right. I think that we do want to be kids again. We do want to believe in men and big red suits, et cetera.

[19:10:04] CHAUT: We want to believe in magic.

BANFIELD: But David Copperfield goes even past that. And I`m going to ask the control room, if they can, I have just been looking through some of the

testimony. And I want to, if you can, grab for me sound bite number two. Because I think in sound bite number two, you see the theatrics of David

Copperfield who is going from the big stage to a very little stand. And yet he is still got some of that performance magic where he is razzle-

dazzling, if that is (INAUDIBLE) the jury. Have a look how he responds to question. And I`m not going to tell you what he is asked about. It`s just

about an employee issue. But look how he testifies.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever call them your employees? Either you did or didn`t.

COPPERFIELD: In the same way this is my courthouse because I pay taxes, in the same way that MGM is my hotel because I love being there. I don`t own

the hotel.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So apparently, Jesse, he has been doing a lot of this, and it`s really pissing off the plaintiff`s attorney. He is like not to able to

reign him in, is he?

WEBER: Sure. Well, actually, and he gave some glances over to the jury at some point and said, do you like the questions that I am being ask? He

gives this looks. And look, we talk about this before that the idea is he is a professional. He goes on stage every night. And if he feels anxiety,

if something is bothering him, he has to shield it. So might --.

BANFIELD: Look at this smile. Look at him going by the jury giving them the old grim.

WEBER: He is David Copperfield. He is extremely charming. I believe everything he says. And that`s the key here. The jury has to like him and

they have to believe what he is saying. But we can`t forget the fact of he is in the middle of a very important lawsuit.

BANFIELD: It is.

And Nicole, it is important - look. I liken it to McDonald`s special sauce, yes, OK, it`s sauce on a burger, but it is a massive secret. And if

somebody chokes on it, do they have to give up the recipe?

NICOLE DEBORDE, FORMER PROSECUTOR: It doesn`t seem like they should have to. And in this case, the trick itself, how the trick is done isn`t

relevant to the point in time during which this person was ultimately injured. So the judge is going to have to be really careful about making

sure that what information goes to the jury, has relevance to the claim. And that claim is about an injury.

BANFIELD: OK. So you can`t have a magician on the set without saying, do some of this stuff where your trade secrets will remain your trade secrets

and there`s a reason for it. Because even this close, it`s hard to see what you are doing.

CHAUT: Yes, it is.

BANFIELD: Got a trick?

CHAUT: I do.

BANFIELD: OK.

CHAUT: I noticed you have a really cool ring on your finger over there.

BANFIELD: Just got married.

CHAUT: Can I borrow your ring?

BANFIELD: No. Yes, of course, you can.

CHAUT: I`ll give it back.

BANFIELD: You are going to give it back, right? Because if Chris is watching, he is not going to be thrilled with this.

CHAUT: You have some viewers watching, too. So in any case, can the camera pick that up?

BANFIELD: Can you see the ring close up?

CHAUT: You see the ring? OK, great.

BANFIELD: He did a good job, didn`t he?

CHAUT: Yes, I did.

BANFIELD: I mean Chris.

CHAUT: Me too. All right, Ashleigh. When I say three, you say go.

One to three, go.

BANFIELD: Go. No, come on. Come on. Listen, it was really --

BANFIELD: Oh, God, it`s not in your other hand either.

CHAUT: No, no. It was really nice meeting you.

BANFIELD: Yes. Sure it was.

CHAUT: No, no. Don`t laugh, I really don`t give them back.

BANFIELD: OH, my God.

CHAUT: That was from yesterday, no, I`m kidding. I`ll tell you what I`m going to do. I`m going to give you the keys to my car as collateral. This

way you know I`m not going to run off with the ring. Can you open my key case?

BANFIELD: OK. Are you kidding? Seriously? OK.

CHAUT: Let me show you which key it is, so you know. Look, this here, that`s the key to the house. That`s the car. There`s the office. That`s

the mailbox, and that must be --

BANFIELD: I can`t believe that.

CHAUT: -- the key to your heart.

BANFIELD: How did you do this?

What`s the first question you get asked, when you wow someone, what is the first question you get asked?

CHAUT: You know you have done your job when they say how did you do it? Now, here. I want to ask you a question, with all these witnesses here and

the viewers at home. Is that ring you gave me?

BANFIELD: Yes, it is.

CHAUT: Very generous of you.

BANFIELD: You`re doing a Copperfield, aren`t you?

CHAUT: My lawyer says I get to keep that now, watch. Do you know where it is?

BANFIELD: I don`t.

CHAUT: It`s right back on your finger. Oh, that would have been so cool.

BANFIELD: He had me going.

H CHAUT: e would have gone down. No, no, I`m kidding. I actually have a spare. It`s right over here inside my key case.

BANFIELD: Come on. Come on.

CHAUT: Now, you have had two chances so far if you`ve been following along. I`ll tell you what, hold onto that, so close. Not to worry. I do

have an insurance policy. It`s a magician`s insurance policy. It says, if I can`t find your ring, I have to give you the contents of my wallet upon

the termination of the magic trick. Not the little wallet, this other wallet.

BANFIELD: Come on. Come on.

CHAUT: You never know what you`re going to find in a magician`s oh, look, it`s an envelope --

[19:15:03] BANFIELD: No, this is not happening.

WEBER: No way.

CHAUT: Do me a favor, put your hand out, put your other hand next to it. Yes, it is definitely.

BANFIELD: Oh, my God. OK, we are sitting right beside him watching every one of these moves, and that is without question --

WEBER: Wow. I`m a kid again.

BANFIELD: I am. And, you know, as much as I do want to know, maybe you are right. Maybe I don`t. Maybe I don`t, because is it simple?

CHAUT: I wouldn`t say it`s simple. But it`s -- you know, magic can be learned. We have -- you had ben on in the previous hour. Ben actually

teaches classes to young would be magicians.

BANFIELD: I just can barely -- can I do another block on this? Can we do another block? Yes, OK, don`t go anywhere. Have you got another trick you

can do?

CHAUT: I do.

BANFIELD: I`m not supposed to be doing this. We will be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:20:53] BANFIELD: We are still talking about the latest performance from one of the world`s greatest magicians, David Copperfield. Copperfield

is sitting here looking pretty serious, and he should. Because he is having to defend his magic in a Las Vegas courtroom. And to do that, he

does not want to reveal the secrets that make his disappearing act happen. He doesn`t want to say that they are dangerous.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

COPPERFIELD: Keep it rolling! We`re good. Take them up into the air. Witnesses, make sure you can see all around the sides and behind. Go, go,

go. Hello, guys, hey, hello.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Pretty amazing. And that`s why over 100,000 people have reportedly been part of that lucky 13 trick. Now on them, that man in the

glasses, is forcing David Copperfield to share the secrets behind the illusion because he says he was gravely hurt when he was part of that

disappearing act.

Back with me, former prosecutor Nicole DeBorde, as well as Jesse Weber, host with Law and Crime network and then magician Michael Chaut. The

creator and founder of Monday Night Magic, the longest running off Broadway magic show in New York City. He has already wowed me by making my

engagement ring disappear before my very eyes like three times, somehow zipped up in his wallet and his key chain. If you missed that. You have

got a little bit more for us.

CHAUT: Sure.

BANFIELD: I want to ask you to do a trick, but not before I ask an important question.

Nicole, I get it. They have to run fast through dark hallways. But 100,000 plus people did this trick before and ran through those hallways

and didn`t have this happen. That, to me, as a layperson says, oh, Copperfield`s got it in the bag. But this guy fell and he did hurt

himself. Does it matter that he is on that property in that show, and it doesn`t matter whether he tripped on a piece of grass, or a giant brick?

DEBORDE: Well, I think it does matter. And I think historically they know that this has been done safely many, many, many -- thousands of times.

BANFIELD: Over 100,000.

DEBORDE: Over 100,000 times. And so, it does matter because there`s no reason for them to expect that there`s anything particularly dangerous

about what it is they are doing. If, however, there is something that they should have noticed in these people`s path, that could make a difference.

So it really does matter statistically that this appears to be a safe thing to do.

BANFIELD: And, I know Jesse that there`s a lot of hay being made about some construction dust and everything else that was along this passageway.

But David Copperfield has been pretty clear that he ran that just ten minutes before in another trick, right, and that he was keeping his eyes -

here is a look at the passageway, all sorts of producers along the way, they do ask all these participants, are you pregnant, let me look at your

shoes, can you communicate in English, if you are part of the media? We don`t want you. To do this, because we don`t want to reveal the trick.

Here`s a moment, though, if it`s all about the details, it just might be lost on this jury because this guy knows how to razzle-dazzle. And I just

want you to watch this piece of testimony. It sound bite number six for our control room. He is being asked about the first time he ever met his

executive producer. It`s kind of a mundane question. But wait till you hear how he answers and how he is to watch at work. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it love at first sight, you know?

COPPERFIELD: Well, if you`re starting rumors. I don`t think my fiance would appreciate that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would say you were instant friends?

COPPERFIELD: Quickly. We were friends. I`m not sure that I love the whole buddy aspect of it because, you know, as, you know, we are friends,

but also we are friends over here, but when we work together over here we are professionally doing things for safety and for business and for

marketing and so forth. It has nothing to do with us being buddies and friends over here.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[19:25:09] BANFIELD: Well, there was a little bit of the showmanship off the top. But honestly, Jesse, he has been jersey cowing the jury all the

way through this, and kind of mesmerizing them.

WEBER: Well, he is extremely likable. That`s why people keep coming to see his show and I think that`s really a key component. But he was coached

by his attorneys before you get on the stand, this is what you have to -- how you have to answer these questions. And every answer he gives is as

well manufactured and well-oiled as the machine he puts on, as the show he puts on. And he is looking at those jurors every time because he wants

them to side with him, not the defense attorney, plaintiff`s attorney Mr. Morelli. He wants them to side with him, look, guys, I put on a show.

BANFIELD: He`s working his magic.

WEBER: Exactly. Nobody`s gotten hurt before. And really, the question is, is this a slip or a trip? And his attorneys and their attorneys for

the MGM want to say this was a trip, one guy got hurt.

BANFIELD: So there`s been a lot of hay made about being selected for a magic show or being a volunteer for a magic show.

I`m going to tell you right now I was once in this huge audience in Orlando at Universal Studios, where they have a regular blue man group show, great

show, love it, and they picked me, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why they picked me, I was looking down, I was trying to get my kids to

volunteer, but they picked me. And it was hilarious. I didn`t want to be on stage. I actually would never have volunteered for that moment, but I

really did feel like I had no choice.

When you are doing your magic, Michael, does this chill you? Like what`s happening to David Copperfield, does this chill you about bringing, you

know, average Joes up on the stage, whether by choice or by coercion?

CHAUT: I don`t think he ever coerces anyone to come up. It`s not -- it wouldn`t be good for his show. I know for my show if I ask someone to join

me on stage and they say no, I will move on to the next person.

BANFIELD: You move on, and they do that.

CHAUT: And the reason is, because they are not going to be helpful on stage.

BANFIELD: Yes. Just so everybody knows the selection process, and I want to get you to do a trick right away because I love your magic.

They throw these balls out into the audience. And so, the balls bounce around the audience, and you are told beforehand whoever ends up with the

bouncing ball, you are going to come up on stage. So if you don`t want it, throw it. So you are a volunteer, by virtue of the fact you grab the ball.

You keep it. And you think, goodie, I got it. I`m part of the deal. So that is an interesting part of this as well.

To the rest of the trade secrets, and as you are getting ready to do your next trick, I think it`s critical that there are still some secrets that

apply to a lot of tricks, meaning you give up a secret to one trick, you may have blown it for others as well.

CHAUT: You know, you had asked me that during the commercial break. There are 17 different concepts in magic. I think that they have counted, you

know, object disappearing from one location and reappearing in another, solid through solid, they call them magic principles. And while David uses

certain methods for doing this trick, there are many methods of doing many different tricks. In fact, I was told once that David said, and I don`t

know -- I got this second hand, that he didn`t mind if people knew how he did his magical effects because he changes methods all the time. So they

don`t -- it doesn`t really --

BANFIELD: I have four minutes. And I want you to do another trick for me. And I don`t even know if I can get two tricks in in four minutes. But

let`s try. We have got three minutes.

CHAUT: OK.

BANFIELD: Two strikes in three minutes? OK.

CHAUT: I will try.

BANFIELD: Let`s try with you first.

CHAUT: I brought coins with me. I want you to take them, because you don`t have pants with you. Make sure that -

BANFIELD: I don`t have any.

CHAUT: Well, you don`t pants and pockets.

BANFIELD: OK. Right, no pocket.

CHAUT: So is that a real coin?

BANFIELD: It`s a real nickel, yes.

CHAUT: Great. I want you to put your initials on both sides. Both initials, both sides.

BANFIELD: OK. Can everybody -- let me show the camera. That`s that side and that`s the other? OK. Do I give it back to you?

CHAUT: Yes, please.

BANFIELD: There you go.

CHAUT: So when I was a little boy, you would see a magician, take a magic wand, and pull the quarter out of the air, touching the coin, et cetera.

Now you have got to do something a little more extreme. Watch.

BANFIELD: That`s still the coin, by the way. I can see the initials on it.

CHAUT: You can see your initials on it?

BANFIELD: I can see it, yes.

CHAUT: Can the camera get the initials?

BANFIELD: There you go. There. You can still see the A sticking out of his thumb. I was looking for that. You just switched it on me.

CHAUT: Tricky?

BANFIELD: No, it`s still mine.

CHAUT: OK. Here we go. Watch. It`s -- you can`t bend metal with the power of your mind.

BANFIELD: Oh, my god. OK. That`s happening right before --

CHAUT: Put your hand out for me.

BANFIELD: Oh, my Lord, can you see this, everyone. Can you that --.

CHAUT: So I have good news for you, hold onto that.

WEBER: Whoa.

BANFIELD: That`s nuts. And it`s still the AB on both sides.

CHAUT: You hold onto that. That will bring you health and wealth. It`s clear you have long lasting love.

[19:30:02] BANFIELD: I was asked to bring a $20 bill to the set. Do you want it?

CHAUT: Yes, please. Give me the $20 bill.

BANFIELD: I brought this from my own wallet, so I know it`s not a tricky thing. We have one minute left.

CHAUT: OK. Can you see the bill here? I don`t know if you can --

BANFIELD: Yes, got it.

CHAUT: Yes, great. I`m going to take this pen, I`m going to take the pen, run it right through there. That`s the White House on the back there.

It`s going to come through Jackson`s head. Don`t worry, it`s just an illusion, and it`s OK if I mess up, it`s not my money. As I say go, when I

say three -- one, two, three.

BANFIELD: One, two, three.

CHAUT: Say, go.

BANFIELD: Go.

CHAUT: Oh, so sorry, I got him in the eye.

BANFIELD: Oh, man.

CHAUT: (INAUDIBLE) the camera. Don`t worry, it`s just an illusion. See, my theory is if you can poke a pen in the bill, you should be able to just

poke it out. Check it out.

BANFIELD: OK, that`s crazy. That`s pretty impressive. That`s pretty good. You`re good at this, fella. Holy, Moses. Wow. How did you do it?

CHAUT: I wish I could tell you.

BANFIELD: Because that pen looked just like mine.

CHAUT: It is just like yours, actually.

BANFIELD: OK. What do you think`s going to happen? Nicole, do you think he`s going to win, or do you think the plaintiff`s going to win?

NICOLE: I don`t think the plaintiff is going to win. I think Copperfield`s going to win.

BANFIELD: You don`t? And you don`t think he`s going to have to cough up the secret?

NICOLE: I don`t think he`s going to have to cough up the secret.

BANFIELD: That you hope he doesn`t have to cough up the secrets.

CHAUT: No, I hope he -- I agree, yes.

BANFIELD: Michael Chaut, thank you for everything. For your perspective and the tricks. I appreciate that.

CHAUT: Thank you.

BANFIELD: And that Jesse, as always. Nicole, thank you as well.

NICOLE: Thank you.

BANFIELD: Police say three weeks ago, a woman named Samantha Sperry went into the Kentucky woods on an ATV looking for her suicidal ex-boyfriend.

That guy, he got out, he`s since returned from the woods, but this girl, not so much. While the ex-boyfriend was dehydrated and suffering from

hypothermia, Samantha was nowhere to be found and still isn`t. That`s next.

[19:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Kaler bottoms is a wildlife area in Western Kentucky, 1,900 acres of woods and swamps that pretty much turn into mud every spring.

That is reportedly where Samantha Sperry went three weeks ago, riding on an ATV with another man. She`s a 25-year-old married mom of two and she was

out searching for her suicidal ex-boyfriend. And that`s where Samantha Sperry went missing. Though according to her family, police would only

start looking for her a whole week later.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TONY ARTIS, STEPFATHER OF MISSING WOMAN: Monday, this whole parking lot was full with people with compassion, helping us look for my daughter. Not

one officer was in those woods on Monday. I`m thankful for the officers that got involved since Monday. But before then, nothing.

DEWAYNE REDMON, SHERIFF, GRAVES COUNTY SHERIFF: I don`t have a problem with them blaming us or saying we`re not doing everything that we can. But

I`ll have to say that we are. We`ve probably put more time and effort into this particular missing persons case than any others that we`ve had.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: But the only missing person that we`re looking for right now is Samantha. Because her ex, well, he made it out of those wetlands. He was

dehydrated, he was hypothermic, but he made it out alive. And the other man who Samantha was reportedly riding with, well, he told police that she

just went off and walked to a relative`s house. But Samantha did not show up at that relative`s house.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ARTIS: I can`t sleep, knowing that my child could be out here somewhere. A man doesn`t want to see his family hurt. And I feel that I`ve let my

daughter down.

I just hope that we do find her alive. I mean, you know, I hope she`s not in these woods. I hope she`s somewhere else alive. I mean, that`s what

hope is.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me now is Shelley Byrnes, she`s a reporter with the Mayfield Messenger. Also with me, Tony Artis, he is Samantha Sperry`s

stepfather. Tony, maybe I`ll start with you, and just if you can, let me know what the very latest is in this search for her. Are you getting any

leads, are you any closer to finding her?

ARTIS (through telephone): Any closer to finding her, no. Yes, calls are coming in, my understanding, they are checking -- the Graves County

Sheriff`s Department are checking leads. That`s what we`re being told. So --

BANFIELD: So, as we understand this, Rhen apparently -- Rhen is the ex- boyfriend who Samantha went out to look for, and Rhen, apparently, on the day he went missing, he had an argument with Samantha. He left in her car,

and sometime later in the day, he was on the phone or in some communication with his own mom and his own sister saying that he was suicidal, had a

shotgun, took pills, and was in the woods. And Samantha went with an unidentified man to go look for him. Do we know who this unidentified man

is, or are the police keeping that quiet for a reason?

[19:40:28] ARTIS: Well, the information you just stated actually came from Rhen`s family. We really don`t know what happened that day. Do we know

who the other man is? Yes, we do.

BANFIELD: But obviously, he`s not a suspect in any of this, he`s not been named at least as such, so it`s not fair to name him in any of this.

ARTIS: (INAUDIBLE) Yes, you`re right. He had -- yes.

BANFIELD: But I`m so curious, Tony, about the process. She went missing and Samantha`s mom was very worried and reached out to the police. How did

that go?

ARTIS: Well, we got the call -- we got a message from Samantha`s brother about the car being abandoned, and Rhen being suicidal, and having a

shotgun and going in the woods. He asked if his sister was with him, with Rhen. And so, my wife went to where she works, and she was a no call, no

show. She called the local police department, and asked them to do a welfare check. And they were -- she was told if they have an officer

available. They said they would call back and never called back.

BANFIELD: What happened -- and what happened when she asked them to file a missing persons report because she had said, you know, she`s out there, and

this ex-boyfriend of hers is suicidable, and might -- suicidal and might have a weapon, what happened then?

ARTIS: They told her being that my daughter is an adult, it`s not illegal for an adult to go missing and blew my wife off. And that was the local --

that was the local police department where my daughter lived.

BANFIELD: All right. I`m going to ask the sheriff about that in a moment. But first, I want to bring in Shelley Byrne if I can. Shelley, you`re a

reporter with the Mayfield Messenger, you know this area. Give me a feel for just how frenzied the search for Samantha is right now. Who`s there?

What are they using? How much are they able to cover this swampland?

SHELLEY BYRNE, REPORTER, MAYFIELD MESSENGER: The search has been intense. There have been searches the last three weekends. There were 130 people

out there on Sunday from nine different counties, searching four square miles. They were using dogs, horses, all-terrain vehicles, they`ve used

boats, they`ve searched with night vision goggles, and they even got a helicopter in the air for a brief period.

BANFIELD: And nothing, they haven`t found a clue, they -- just nothing? I mean, I`m hearing that some of these ATVs that are out on the search are

even getting stuck in the mud because this is such a difficult place to search.

BYRNE: They haven`t found anything that I have been told about at all. And yes, I`ve heard that the ATVs have been getting stuck, and also some

horse trailers got stuck on Sunday.

BANFIELD: I`m also finding here in some of the research that the people who`ve been out looking have been actually up to their necks in water at

times trying to search for this young woman, 3,000 acres of densely wooded area. In the meantime, while they`re searching for her, Shelley, do we

know anything about Rhen Hendrickson coming out of the woods in the condition he was in, is he a suspect, are they questioning him, or is he no

part of this, or is all of it a mystery?

BYRNE: I don`t think there`s been anything said about whether he is a suspect. I would refer you to the sheriff for that information. I have

not heard one way or another. I was told that although Rhen was early on in that area, that she and this male friend of hers had gone searching and

on the ATV, and that she was with this male friend when they got their ATV stuck and came out on a rural road, and she said that she was going to a

relative who lives nearby.

BANFIELD: Yes. And that did not happen. All right. So, obviously, a lot of questions for the sheriff in this case. And that`s who I`m going to

speak to next. Don`t go away.

[19:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We`re talking about that young Kentucky mom who mysteriously went missing in the woods three weeks ago on an ATV, 25-year-old Samantha

Sperry, married, mother of two, reportedly on that ATV, heading into the muddy backwoods to search for her suicidal ex-boyfriend who, by the way,

showed up after four days. And Samantha did not.

[19:49:51] I`m joined now by Sheriff Dewayne Redmon of Graves County, Kentucky. Sheriff, thank you for being on the program. I`m sure you were

able to hear some of my interview prior to the break. The family of Samantha is very concerned that the search for her took a week, it took a

week before anyone went out, she`s concerned that nobody wanted to file a missing persons report, even though there was this report of an ex-

boyfriend suicidal with a gun potentially, and she felt as though the case, they felt that the case wasn`t taken seriously. How do you respond to

that?

REDMON: Well, (INAUDIBLE) second, seriously. I mean, the agency that they went to first, which was where she lived, not in Graves County didn`t take

a missing person`s report at that time, but once she came into Graves County, and to our office, we took the missing person`s report, and we

began a search. I think she`s reported this missing on Thursday. We have done a search that following Friday. Was several deputies out that day

searching the area. The problem that we were having -- of course, we didn`t have a -- I guess you could say a good location for a search. We

were talking -- it`s kind of like the area that she went missing in is a wildlife refuge and bottom land. Of course, we had a lot of rain in that

area. It was very flooded. So, ATVs, you know, we were getting them all the stuff, and trying to wade through water, so you know, making search

efforts on that particular day were very difficult. And so, since then, there has been two or three different searches that`s occurred since that

time.

BANFIELD: So, can I ask you -- I`m so mystified by this story. Samantha goes into the woods with an unidentified man on an ATV to look for her ex-

boyfriend. The ex-boyfriend comes out and then the story goes that Samantha and the unidentified man come out and part ways. Is the -- first

of all, can you tell me who the unidentified man is?

REDMON: I don`t want to name his name right now, no.

BANFIELD: OK.

REDMON: It was just a friend of the -- of the person --

BANFIELD: Of Samantha.

REDMON: A friend of the person that originally went missing.

BANFIELD: OK. So, it`s a friend of Samantha`s. Is that man a suspect in her disappearance?

REDMON: He has been questioned, yes. I mean, along with the person that she, you know, went looking for.

(CROSSTALK)

BANFIELD: So, her ex-boyfriend is being questioned as is the man who went searching for the ex-boyfriend with her, last person apparently to have

been with her, but neither one is the suspect at this time, sir?

REDMON: Yes, I mean, you know, basically, until we find a body or find her, you know, determine, you know, what has happened to her. I mean, they

are both persons of interest.

BANFIELD: Sure.

REDMON: (INAUDIBLE) they both -- (INAUDIBLE) the question. One has taken a polygraph and the other one is scheduled to taking one.

BANFIELD: Oh, that`s interesting. Oh, I hope they don`t find a body. I hope they find her. But it has been freezing cold for the number of days

that she`s been gone, several weeks. So, our prayers go to everyone (INAUDIBLE)

REDMON: Yes, three weeks ago Wednesday that she`s been missing.

BANFIELD: Sheriff, thanks so much for being with us. My thanks to Tony Artis as well and also Shelley Byrne for reporting.

I have "ONE MORE THING" for you tonight. If you`re ever trying to elude the police, I have one suggestion, don`t go to a place like this. You`re

going to about to find out why.

[19:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: In South America, the country of Bolivia has the highest rates of sexual violence against women. This week`s CNN Hero grew up there and

she suffered sexual abuse as a teenager but finally gained the courage to break her silence, and in the process of doing so, she found the strength

to take on a much bigger mission. Meet Brisa De Angulo.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BRISA DE ANGULO, CEO, A BREEZE OF HOPE: I found out that I wasn`t alone, that there were tons of girls that were also being sexually abused. And I

had to do something. I had to use the rest of my life to prevent other girls from going from what I went through. I think the biggest thing is

giving the voice back to girls and allowing them to speak up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Go to CNN Heroes to watch the full story, and you can nominate someone you think should be a CNN Hero, as well. And I just have "ONE MORE

THING" for you tonight, a suspect on the run from Florida Police decided to take off and make them chase off road -- and when I say off road, I mean

real off road -- running into this swamp, muddy swamp, ending up neck deep in the mud in the attempt to get away but his hiding place -- his hiding

place was absolutely no match for the K9 who was nothing short of thrilled to find the guy. Look at him, lick, lick, lick, lick, licking the face of

a muddy perp. When was the last time you saw a K9 do this and make the guy actually smile? Like, it`s crazy. No lunging, no barking, no snarling.

For the record, it took several deputies to actually get that guy unstuck from the mud. Oh, man. You`re no match for the puppy dog. Puppy dog

licking you into submission. See you back here on Monday night at 6:00 Eastern. Thanks so much for watching, everyone. "CRIMES OF THE CENTURY"

begins right now.

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