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[11:00:00] LYNDA KINKADE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello and welcome to CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Lynda Kinkade in Atlanta. Becky Anderson is on her
assignment. We'll hear from her in just a moment. Well, Mike Pompeo is hitting a ground running as President Trump's new Secretary of State. He's
just arrived in Israel where he's being meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Pompeo is fresh from Saudi Arabia where he met with
King Salman topping his agenda in both places, the war in Syria and the Iran Nuclear Deal. So what's the view from Saudi Arabia on all of this?
Host of CONNECT THE WORLD, Becky Anderson has more from the Kingdom.
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: Well, Mike Pompeo has arrived in Saudi Arabia just days after being sworn in as the new U.S. Secretary of State. We have
his first stop from one of his regional tour that will take him to Israel and to Jordan. He was warmly greeted on the tarmac by the Saudi Foreign
Minister Adel al-Jubeir. Now, his visit comes as President Donald Trump is set to decide whether to pull out of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, the
Kingdom's main regional rival and is no doubt confronting Iran was a key subject in Pompeo's talks with King Salman and the Crown Prince Mohammad
bin Salman. Washington and Riyadh both maintained that Iran's regional activities needs to be curved. Activities such as supplying groups like
Houthis in Yemen with missiles and that are fired in Saudi targets on a regular basis, even on the same day is Pompeo's arrival here. But Iran is
not the only issue of concern as growing consensus in Washington that achieving goals like confronting Tehran or stabilizing Syria and fighting
ISIS will require a more robust and unified Arab response.
And that means Saudi Arabia and its allies may need to settle their own growing dispute with Qatar which is home to America's biggest regional
military base. And then there's the ongoing war in Yemen and the humanitarian crisis there that as far as the Trump Administration is
concerned is not helping the kingdom's image on Capitol Hill and taking its focus off Iran. So a lot to discuss for Saudi's leaders and America's top
diplomat, a man who those who have known for the first time and for the moment at least the full backing of Donald Trump in Washington. Becky
Anderson, CNN, Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. Well, Ben Wedeman is in Amman, Jordan, Oren Liebermann is in Jerusalem. Good to have you both with us. I
want to go first to Oren with the new Secretary of State has just given some remarks that he jokes that he's only been in the job a few hours. He
hasn't even been to his office. How significant is it that he's making his trip to Israel when the last Secretary of State who is in the job for over
a year didn't even go there?
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I would say it's very significant and that's exactly the message that the Secretary of State and President Donald
Trump want to deliver, that with this new position, it was essentially strait to Israel as well as straight to Saudi there. you correctly note
that the former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on the trip to the Middle East skipped Israel. So Mike Pompeo coming here is very much a statement
about how this will work and the ties between the U.S. and Israel. In terms of what was on the angenda, that considerably be described in one
word. This meeting was all about Iran. That's exactly what Pompeo wanted to keep, as well as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu has been
the most vocal, the most outspoken critic of the Iran nuclear deal. Recently he started saying fix it or mix it, urging the U.S. to change it
some way or scrap it altogether. Trump indicating that he's leaning towards mixing it at this point with two weeks until he has to recertify
that the Iran is in compliance with the deal. So this meeting very much focusing on Iran but not only the nuclear deal, also Iran's presence in
Syria as well as its ballistic missile program. That is exactly where Netanyahu is wanted to focus as he keeps lobbying against Iran essentially,
not only with the U.S. but with also other signatories to the Iran Nuclear Deal.
KINKADE: Thanks Oren. I want to go out to ban because prior to coming to Israel, Mike Pompeo came to Saudi Arabia, and we heard from the Saudi
Foreign Minister saying that the U.S. and Saudi Arabia have a lot in common. He described it almost as identical. But there are a lot of
differences. Becky alluded to some of them in her pace. Was Saudi receptive to Pompeo's message?
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Certainly the Saudi Arabians were receptive to his message regarding Iran. However, there are
other areas where they might not see quite eye to eye. For instance, their dispute which started last summer with Qatar. There the Saudi Arabians
continue to push this dispute. They publicly pondered the possibility of for instance digging a mote along their border with Qatar or perhaps
turning their border area into a nuclear waste dump. The American feel that this spat is really a waste of time. They would like to see the Gulf
States join together for some sort of united front against Iran. In addition to that, the Americans have reservations about the Saudi led war
against the Houthis in Yemen which is now three years old and at this point appears to be unwinnable.
[11:05:17] KINKADE: And while the sort of talks are going on, this very important trip is happening, I understand, Ben, obviously this threat of
terror never far from the mind of people in the region. You recently visited the Jordanian Desert. How are they preparing for a possible
WEDEMAN: Well, let's also keep in mind, Lynda that Secretary Pompeo's last stop on his trip to the Middle East is here to Jordan. And Jordan over the
last few decades has whethered storms from Israel and Palestine, from Iraq, from Syria and as we saw in the Jordanian Desert. They and their American
friends are preparing for more storms.
WEDEMAN: The roar of heavy machine guns fire, crackle of small arms, the boom of tanks, all fired not in anger but in preparation for what might
come. This is Eagle Lion 2018, Jordanian-American War Games in the desert. U.S. and Jordanian forces have been holding joint exercises like these for
years and during those years the scenario was fairly generic. With the passage of time however, the scenario they're working on seems to look ever
more like Syria. The troops are simulating an assault on an imaginary refugee camp that has fallen under the control of extremist.
LT. GEN. MICHAEL GARRETT, U.S. ARMY CENTRAL COMMAND: Syria is you know, on the border and Syria and the refugees that are coming towards Jordan is a
WEDEMAN: This actual refugee camp Rukban sits on the Syrian side of the border with Jordan. In recent years, ISIS' targeted Jordanian forces from
Rukban and officials here worry ISIS' cells have multiplied there.
BRIGADIER GENERAL MOHAMMED AL-THLAJI, DIRECTOR OF TRAINING, JORDANIAN ARMY: We have -- in Jordan, here, we have to get prepared for all scenarios,
actually, whether it's Rukban Camp, whether it's another camps, whether it is the southern you know, influx of the Syrian you know, refugees again
from our border or from Damascus or from any other part of Syria and to Jordan.
WEDEMAN: More than a million Syrians have fled to Jordan in the past seven years putting strain on their already weak economy. Yet another source of
instability warns analyst Amer Alsabaileh.
AMER ALSABAILEH, ANALYST: I think Jordan might suffer from having bad economic conditions which might turn to social profits and at this stage,
there's a new strategy for terrorist group to seize any social profits and trying to radicalize it.
WEDEMAN: And so there are also practicing for unrest sparked by the hypothetical intensification of U.S. strikes in Syria. These aren't real
protesters by the way, but rather Jordanian military personnel drafted to play the part. Complete with a simulated evacuation of U.S. embassy staff,
they were then flown to ships over at sea. And no exercise with Syria in mind would be complete without a simulated chemical attack. Training also
focuses on the possible use of biological and nuclear weapons.
MAJOR GENERAL JON MOTT, U.S. ARMY CENTRAL COMMAND: Everything has to do with Syria and Iraq and the whole regions. So it's the culmination of all
of those things.
WEDEMAN: A culmination of an array of possibilities, none of them are less remote.
WEDEMAN: And when Secretary Pompeo meets with Jordanian leaders, he's going to hear they don't agree with United States on several important
points. For instance, the U.S. decision to move their embassy to Jerusalem. Lynda?
[11:10:02] KINKADE: All right, Ben Wedeman for us in Amman, Jordan, some good reporting there and Oren Liebermann for us in Jerusalem, thank you
very much. Well, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is also talking about North Korea on his one on one meeting with the leader of North Korea Kim
Jong-un. Now the two met secretly, only this month while Pompeo was still head of the CIA. These are pictures of that meeting released by the White
House. Pompeo went public with the details just a few hours ago in an exclusive interview with ABC News' Jonathan Karl.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MIKE POMPEO, SECRETARY OF STATES, UNITED STATES: We talked about serious matters. He was very well prepared. I hope I matched that. We had an
extensive conversation on the hardest issues that face our two countries. I had a clear mission statement from President Trump. When I left there,
Kim Jong-un understood the mission exactly as I've described it today. And he agreed that he was prepared to talk about that and to lay out a map that
would help us achieve that objective. Only time could tell if we can get that done.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Well, we're also learning more about promises made in priced landmarks summit of Korean leaders. South Korean officials saying Mr. Kim
is planning to close North Korea's Nuclear test site next month with foreign witnesses welcomed. The South says Mr. Kim has declared that the
North will have no need for nuclear weapons if no aggression can be promised. That, of course, hinges on the meeting between Mr. Kim and U.S.
President Trump. Well, let's get the details on that. Our Paula Hancocks reports from Seoul.
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Some fresh information coming out this Sunday by summit on Friday between Kim Jong-un and Moon
Jae-in. Now we've heard through the Blue House that Kim Jong-un has said that he's going to shut down the nuclear testing sites of Punggye-ri in the
northeast of the country. Now, this is the first time we've had a timeline, and he's also said according to the spokesperson at the Blue
House that he is going to invite experts, he will invite journalist from South Korea and from the United States in the interest of transparency. He
also refuted the claim that have been made recently by Chinese Geologists that that site was obsolete anyway because it had practically collapsed
from previous nuclear test, all six test were carried out there. He said that was simply not true. He said there were two more tunnels that nobody
knew about and they were in very good condition, but he was prepared to shut those down. We heard from the Blue House that President Moon
immediately welcomes that call. He also had an interesting comment saying that he was not the kind of person that would launch a nuclear missile
against South Korea or against the United States. Now clearly, in the past, there have been threats of this exact nature from North Korea. There
have been some very bellicose remarks threatening to wipe out Seoul, to wipe out Washington, New York and a number of other cities. So certainly
this a very different Kim Jong-un that we are seeing. One more thing as well that was discussed here, he said that he has decided to change time in
Pyongyang. Just a few years ago, North Korea decided to move their clocks half an hour before the clocks here in South Korea. And he said that as he
was in the peace heights of the DMZ, where these talks took place, he noticed the two clocks on the wall Seoul and Pyongyang time and decided
that it was important to at least unify the time, so another issue that he's decided on that. So certainly, they are getting a lot more
information about what happened in this summit. The cynicism though in South Korea is still there. Although there is cautious optimism that we
are talking about these level of peace, we're talking about this level of timeline as well with the shutdown of the Punggye-ri nuclear test site that
many people taking a wait and see approach to see if there's much more beyond that. And of course, the issue now looking to the next three or
four weeks according to the U.S. President Donald Trump. That is when he is expecting his summit with Kim Jong-un to take place. Paula Hancocks,
KINKADE: Well, still to come --
MICHELLE WOLF, COMEDIAN: There's also, of course, Ivanka. She's done nothing to satisfy women, so I guess like father like daughter.
KINKADE: Well, the Trump Administration got slammed at this year's White House Correspondents' Dinner. The President was miles away surrounded by
his most ardent supporters. But now, Mr. Trump is lashing out at the event and its host.
[11:15:00] KINKADE: Welcome back to the United States where the country's political divide was on full display Saturday night in what you could call
a tale of two Washingtons. President Trump held a campaign rally in Washington Township, Michigan going head to head with the White House
Correspondents' Dinner in Washington D.C. It's the second year in a row Mr. Trump skipped the event in favor of time spent with some of his biggest
supporters. The annual media dinner was hosted by Comedian Michelle Wolf who's remarks met with laughs, gaps and sometimes silence. Well, in usual
Trump style, the President took to social media to praise his rally as a big success and slammed the Correspondents' Dinner as a big boring bust,
adding that the so-called comedian really bombed. Let's bring in Larry Name. He is the Director of the Center for Politics at the University of
Virginia and joins us via Skype. So good to have you with us Larry as always.
LARRY SABATO, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR POLITICS, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Thank you, Lynda.
KINKADE: Well, Trump -- President Trump front and center went to his base, doing what he loves, talking about his achievements while we saw what we
see in D.C. a comedian ripping into him, ripping into his team as well, and one thing that stood out quite a bit last night was the crowd, when they
began to chant when he was talking about his achievements bringing the two Koreas together. Let's just take a listen to that.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
AMERICAN CROWD: Nobel! Nobel! Nobel! Nobel!
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's very nice, thank you. That's very nice. Nobel.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: President Trump's base there calling for him to be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize. And of course, we've also heard from some Republicans
like Lindsey Graham once called Donald Trump crazy and unfit for office saying if there is peace on the Korean Peninsula, then this President
deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. What are your thoughts?
SABATO: Linda, first of all, it's completely premature. Let's wait and see what happens. The North Koreans have a long pattern stretching from
the Clinton Administration and George W. Bush's Administration of reaching agreements and then violating them once people look elsewhere. So it's
completely premature. What I thought was significant was the typically modest, humble Donald Trump posed the question to himself last night, who's
responsible for all this? I am 100 percent. It's always him. He's the center of everything. So maybe the Nobel Committee will see fit to give
him the award or maybe they won't. But it's premature and I don't think it's going to have any real effect on the political scene in America.
KINKADE: Right. And well certainly have to see how that plays out. We are at the very beginning of what, no doubt months, if not years of
discussion on the Peninsula. I want to turn your attention to D.C. where we heard the comedian at the White House Correspondents' Dinner are ripping
into President Trump, his team. People that were sitting just meters away from her. Let's just take a listen what she have to say.
WOLF: Of course, Trump isn't here, if you haven't noticed. He's not here. And I know, I know, I would drag him here myself, but it turns out the
president of the United States is the one (BLEEP) you're not allowed to grab.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, we are graced with Sarah's presence tonight. I have to say I'm a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in The
Handmaid's Tale. Mike Pence, if you haven't seen it, you would love it.
There's also, of course, Ivanka. She was supposed to be an advocate for women, but it turns out she's about as helpful to women as an empty box of
tampons. She's done nothing to satisfy women. So, I guess like father, like daughter.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: There you have it, the comedian attacking Ivanka Trump and also the Press Secretary Sara Sanders -- Huckabee Sanders. There is always a
risk comedians can full flat an event like this. Do you think she missed a mark?
SABATO: Personally, I thought it was bloody awful. Yes, I know that President Trump uses vulgarities all the time. He makes fun of handicapped
people, he has mistreated women and we could go on and on. And his speech last night, Lynda was demagogic as usual but that doesn't justify stooping
to his level. I think particularly in the Trump Administration, in the Trump era where the low road is so often taken, it is critical for people
to maintain the high ground and the White House Correspondents' Dinner utterly failed to do so and I'm not equating a comment with the President.
What a President does and his sense are far more significant than what a comic says or does, but I found her presentation completely inappropriate
and you didn't include (INAUDIBLE) think but they were just outrageous vulgarities during a time when young children might be watching. I thought
that White House Correspondents' Association really eliminated themselves as legitimate critics of this very disturbing administration.
KINKADE: And so, what does it do for an event like that going forward? I can't imagine the President is going to attend it next year.
SABATO: Well, I'm sure he won't. He's come up with a formula. He's done it two years in a row where he goes out and has an event with the real
people of America and leaves the press elites in their tuxedos and gowns to do what they're going to do. I've said for years waiting for Trump and
many senior reporters have joined in this. The White House Correspondents' Association does some great things. they raise money for scholarships for
young people aspiring to be journalist, that's what they were doing last night. You know what, the dinner has outlived its usefulness. Go ahead
and raise the scholarship money. There are other ways to raise scholarship money. Get rid of this awful dinner. It was there long before Trump and
now it has gotten intolerable.
KINKADE: I want to go back to President Trump's speech at that rally in Michigan last night. There was another standout moment when he spoke about
Russian meddling in the U.S. election. Just take a listen to what he had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: I guarantee you, I'm tougher on Russia. Nobody ever thought. In fact, you -- have you heard about the lawyer? For a year, a woman lawyer,
she was like, oh, I know nothing, I know nothing. Now all of a sudden she's supposedly is involved with the government. You know why? If she
did that, because Putin and the group said, you know, this Trump killing us. Why don't you say that you're involved with government so that we can
go and make their life in the United States even more chaotic?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Larry, for a long time, Donald Trump said, there is no meddling, any sort of indication that Russia was meddling in the election is a hoax,
and now we hear this change of narrative. Who's buying that?
SABATO: Well, his base, they buy anything he says. You know, Lynda, I've been a teacher for 47 years and I've learned all the variations of the
excuse my dog ate my homework. But I have to hand it to President Trump. He's come up with some new variations. I really think that the independent
counsel, the Special Counsel Robert Mueller will have a lot to say about this. It's pretty clear we're not going to get the truth from President
Trump and we can only hope that the Mueller investigation is uncovering the truth.
KINKADE: Certainly can. All right, Larry Sabato, we'll have to leave it there for now. Always good to have you on, thank so much.
SABATO: Thank you, Lynda.
KINKADE: You can always follow the latest on President Trump and U.S. politics at cnn.com like this, during Saturday's rally, Mr. Trump slammed
the U.S. Embassy in London as being in a lousy location. The President's comments come just ahead of his planned visit to the U.K. in July. His
first since taking office. Well, for more on what's behind Mr. Trump's blatant dislike of the new embassy, go to cnn.com. Well, still ahead,
tracking a serial rapist and murderer known as the Golden State Killer. How is DNA sample helped police crack a decades-old cold case? We'll have
that when we come back.
[11:30:00] KINKADE: You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Lynda Kinkade, welcome back. Well, he terrorized California for nearly two decades.
Allegedly killing at least 12 people and sexually assaulting dozens of women. But with a suspected Golden State Killer behind buzz, we are
finding out more about how investigators cracked the case. CNN's Stephanie Elam, reports from Sacramento.
STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Entering the court while handcuffed to a wheelchair, Joseph DeAngelo, spoke softly while addressing the judge. He
did not interrupt plea to murder charges stemming from a case from 40 years ago where he allegedly killed a young married couple. And attorney for
DeAngelo, says the 72 year old is depressed and fragile. Investigators allege he is the Golden State Killer. A brutal rapist and murderer who
terrorized Californians during the 1970s and '80s.
ANNE MARIE SCHUBERT, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, SACRAMENTO COUNTY: We all knew as part of this team that we were looking for a needle in a haystack. We
found the needle in a haystack and it was right here in Sacramento.
ELAM: Investigators were able to unlock the cold case with the DNA sample left by the killer in one of the attacks.
PAUL HOLES, DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATOR, CONTRA COSTA COUNTY: We ended up generating a DNA profile from the Golden State Killer evidence. And
then, we're able to take that profile and upload it into an open source public genealogy database called GEDmatch. GEDmatch then is able to search
that profile against the other public profiles that individuals have placed in there. Once we got the initial DNA match results and found very distant
relatives, it took us four months.
ELAM: DeAngelo is a Navy veteran who served aboard a missile cruiser during the Vietnam War. He was also a police officer in the towns of
Exeter and Auburn, where officials say he was fired in 1979 for stealing a can of dog repellant and a hammer from a drugstore. For 27 years, he
worked as a mechanic at a Save Mart Distribution Center in nearby Roseville. He retired last year. The 72 year old was taken into custody
in Citrus Heights, a Sacrament suburb.
SCOTT JONES, SHERIFF, SACRAMENTO COUNTY, CALIFORNIA: When he came out of his residence, we had a team in place that was able to take him into
custody. He was very surprised by that.
ELAM: For those who survived the Golden State Killer's attacks like Jane Carson Sandler, relief mixed with shock as new details emerge.
JANE CARSON SANDLER, SURVIVED GOLDEN STATE KILLER'S ATTACK: I also lived in Citrus Heights at this times. So he very well could have been my
neighbor, which is I just can't imagine. I often wonder how long he had stalked me, where he had first seen me.
ELAM: Carson Sandler clearly remember some moment a masked man broke into her home.
SANDLER: When he ran down -- you know, the hall and had that flashlight in my eyes and that big butcher knife facing my chest, he immediately said,
with clenched teeth, "Shut up or I'll kill you."
ELAM: Law enforcement officials believe DeAngelo is responsible for 12 murders and more than 50 rapes in at least 10 counties. They say he also
terrorized some of his victims by phone.
HOLES: The fact that he would call his victims, years, since some cases afterwards just to continuously torment them, underscores the type of
person he is.
ELAM: He was the type to not leave fingerprints. Police were unable to identify their suspect until recently. DeAngelo is expected next in court
on May 14th. Stephanie Elam, CNN, Sacramento, California.
KINKADE: Well, so in the one hand, a suspected killer court and the potential of justice for his victims.
But the other, privacy advocates a warning about the method used. Now, my next guess is Peter Pitts, the founder, and president of the Center for
Medicine in the Public Interest. Last year, he worried about popular DNA testing services. And I quote, "Customers are wrong to think their
information is safely locked away. It's not, it's getting sold far and wide."
Peter Pitts, joins me now, and I should also note he served on U.S. President Obama's Healthcare FDA Transition Team after being second in
command at the agency during the Bush administration. Thanks to be your time, Peter.
PETER PITTS, FOUNDER, CENTER FOR MEDICINE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST: My pleasure, thank you very much.
KINKADE: Presumably, police got the killer through this DNA breakthrough. They had some DNA from a crime scene, it didn't match any DNA in their
database, so they looked at the cost a wide and at looking at database from these genetic testing companies. You believe this races along bells, why?
PITTS: Well, you know, it certainly does. The first, I think it's important to say that it's terrific that this hath a technology helped get
this monster off the street and hopefully in jail. But the unintended consequence is that when you send money in, and you send a swab of your
(INAUDIBLE) that in to get your genetic profile, its nice cocktail party conversation to discuss -- or people look at, at some front as Christmas
stocking stuffers, but this is serious information. And the people think that the theft of their social security number is dangerous.
Considering the theft of your genetic information, its identity theft on a genetic level. There are many implications, you're beyond the legal ones
that people having a genetic test floating rather freely around on the internet.
[11:35:23] KINKADE: But if you're innocent person, why would you be concerned? Does the means justify the answer?
PITTS: Well, I think when it comes to law enforcement, obviously, due process has to be follow. You don't want a guilty party set free because
due process was not followed relative to gathering DNA evidence, which I don't think is the case in this experience.
But imagine if your genetic information is stolen by somebody, they call you up and go, listen, we see your previous post to multiple sclerosis, and
we're going to show your employer, and much give us $10,000 where they take your genetic information and they pretend to be you on the most intimate
There are many implications here and attention has be paid to the risks, as well as the benefit on the broad accessibility. This type of data, It's
not necessarily 100 percent secure. And even though you're told that your genetic code is anonymized, there have been many tests -- at of MIT, for
example, that show it relatively easy to reverse engineer and finds somebody's real identity. So, there are risk as well as benefit, and
that's got to be recognized.
KINKADE: People rarely read to find print when they log on to a site online, do they sites that help you track your ancestor -- ancestors, make
it clear that your information, that your genetic information could be sold or could be pass on to law enforcement?
PITTS: Unless they say, they do. But that's true for not necessarily accurate. Because when you check "I accept" at the bottom of the page,
you're allowing this companies to give or sell your information to a drug companies for research, which, of course, is a good thing to academic
institutions for research, which the good thing for an at least the confines of one of this genetic testing companies. How do they guarantee
the safety of your information? They don't control the security firewalls of their customers, or people, like give it too for free, and that's
A lot of this places especially, institutions of higher learning are notoriously leaky when it comes to protecting their internet security. So
you have to be aware that even though it may be coming from a place with the very secure internet firewalls, it's going to other places that are not
quite as secure. And of course, this information is coming to you via e- mail. And we all know that e-mail is relatively easy to hack.
So, you really have to pay attention to what's being said, and you really must read the fine print before you check, "I accept". And I would expect
that, that what should people's do.
KINKADE: In this particular serial killer case, we know authorities uploaded the DNA evidence from a crime scene using a fake name. Is this
all going to be admissible in court?
PITTS: That's a good question. I mean, think about all the Mark Zuckerberg that exist on Facebook. All but one of them is fake. So, there
are lots of fake profiles out there on social media, and now we know on genetic testing sites, it is a dangerous president. And I don't think it's
going to necessarily set the Golden State Killer fruit, or at least I hope not.
But it's something we got to pay attention to what are we going to do, not just about fake news but a fake profiles. It's a -- it's a crucial
problem. And just because law enforcement does it for the right reasons, doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. And that really brings
up the question of regulation. Should there be more strident government regulation? Should there be a more profound looking at self-imposed
regulation? Because I think is the probably the right answer at least going forward.
Because genetic testing and the science behind it (INAUDIBLE) base that it gives us, provides incredibly important information for a whole host of
things. Not the least of which is the development of new life-saving medicines. But all has to be done in the right way, otherwise, even with
all the best intentions is going to lead to bad results.
KINKADE: And so, some people who may have used this site, ancestory.com or 23andMe, and they have their donor out there. Is there a way for them to
delete their genetic information from the database?
PITTS: No, when they checked "I accept", they give these processors the right to do whatever they want with this information. So, it's -- the cat
is out of the bag, there is no taking it back. But I think, going forward is important for this places such as 23andMe and ancestry.com to be a lot
more transparent, a lot earlier in the process relative to, A, what they can do with the data, and B, what the security questions are. Because no
process is 100 percent safer or 100 percent secure. And people need to know the risks and the benefits before they check "I accept".
So, I think that these copies really need to do a much better job a front explaining in plain English, exactly, what's going to happen with their
KINKADE: All right, Peter Pitts, a really fascinating topic. Great to have you on, thanks so much for your time.
PITTS: My pleasure, thank you very much.
[11:40:01] KINKADE: Well, live from the CNN Center, this is CONNECT THE WORLD. Still ahead, scientist are divided on the dangers host by
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JURGEN SCHMIDHUBER, CO-DIRECTOR, DALLE MOLLE INSTITUTE FOR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE RESEARCH: This is going to be something that transcends
humankind itself, and even biology itself.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Why some experts say, they're playing with fire? That's story next.
KINKADE: Welcome back. Well, now we ask, will artificial intelligent robots and the like, be a blessing or a curse? There are different
opinions and this is outlook.
He's obviously a robot but he behaves in the surprisingly human way. Take a look.
Atlas is the brainchild Boston Dynamics, the group is building advance robots in teaching them to function on their own. The robots essentially
teach themselves to achieve goals with artificial intelligent.
And right after this video is released, billionaire, entrepreneur, and outspoken A.I critic, Elon Musk, tweeted, "This is nothing. In a few
years, that bot will move so fast, you'll need a strobe light to see it. Sweet dreams."
Well, aid of Boston Dynamics released this video of its priced robot dog named, SpotMini. He's a little more helpful than your average K9 shape
robot. To instance, he can open his door for his little friend. Now, all of this, of course, worrying people like Elon Musk, who advocate -- who
advocates a strict regulation of artificial intelligent technology.
Last August, he tweeted, "If you're not concerned about A.I. safety, you should be." Along with the picture that says, in the end, the machines
will win. So, is Musk, right? And could there be a far more sinister side to the technology? And could A.I. even lead to human extinction? CNN's
Erin McLaughlin spoke to some experts in the field.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In the peak terrace Swiss town of Lugano, scientist Jurgen Schmidhuber, works toward a
revolution. To his successful, the world will never be the same.
SCHMIDHUBER: All of -- this going to be much more than just another industrial revolution. This is going to be something that transcends
humankind itself, and even biology itself.
MCLAUGHLIN: Schmidhuber is an A.I. pioneer. His goal to create Artificial Intelligence radically smarter than humans. He'd helped developed the
algorithm to define the field as we know it now. Artificial Intelligence or A.I. is what makes serious response to your commands.
[11:45:03] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here is what I found.
MCLAUGHLIN: And enables Google to translate.
What do we have here?
SCHMIDHUBER: This is a --
MCLAUGHLIN: And Schmidhuber's labs, A.I. pushes beyond that. Cars teach themselves to park.
SCHMIDHUBER: When you now move your head and this going to follow, and you can directed.
MCLAUGHLIN: Drones learn to follow humans.
I go forward, I go backward.
A.I. even teaches itself to run.
SCHMIDHUBER: The important thing is there is no teacher. And while you see that it's trying all kinds of things. And all the beginning it's a
total failure, and the goal is just to maximize the distance covered.
MCLAUGHLIN: The next step, developing robots which can teach themselves to perform simple task. Still, none of this comes close to superintelligence.
SCHMIDHUBER: This are mobile platform --
MCLAUGHLIN: Schmidhuber believes it can be achieved in mere decades.
So, there are those who are skeptical. Who say that actually, A.I. could very well enter another sort of deep freeze period, or nothing happen.
SCHMIDHUBER: At the moment I don't see that as a possibility at on, because all the tendency is that I observed in my own lab, in other labs,
the general hand back celebration, tell me another story.
MCLAUGHLIN: Other leaders in the fields agree. Nick Bostrom is a Director of The Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford University.
NICK BOSTROM, DIRECTOR, THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY INSTITUTE, OXFORD UNIVERSITY: I think, it will affect all aspects of our lives, all of the
segments of the economy.
MCLAUGHLIN: He worries not enough is being done to prepare for the potential dangers.
Given your research, given everything you know, so far, are you optimistic about the future of humanity?
BOSTROM: Yes, I think this transition to the machine superintelligence era will be associated with some significant risk, including this existential
risk of human extinction in such. But on the other side, and this often get -- doesn't get as much sort of air time but I think, there is this
MCLAUGHLIN: Schmidhuber, said his confidence the enormous upside will prevail, but he admit, it's like playing with fire.
SCHMIDHUBER: We have to be aware of the potential dangers of fire, but we are not going to stop the further development of fire because it crawls all
the way the ground so much.
MCLAUGHLIN: And maybe unpredictable that Schmidhuber and others agree, when it comes to A.I., the match has been struck. Erin McLaughlin, CNN,
KINKADE: Well, if thinking about the rise of killer robots makes you want to grab a drink, maybe not so fast. The price of wine is skyrocketing.
I'll get this if colonies actually taking a hit. So who's the zeppelin? Well, not A.I. Something moment turn off. We'll explain next.
[11:50:10] KINKADE: Well, the all favorite bottle of winemakers more this season. Thanks to punishing weather across Great (INAUDIBLE) in Europe,
and elsewhere. In 2017, global wine production slowed to its lowest level in 60 years. Meteorologist Allison Chinchar joins me now for more on all
of this. And you and I like to have a glass of chew of wine. I don't want to hit about the price of wine is going on, say them so --
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: It is, unfortunately. The interesting pass about this is if you have one region, then maybe has a bad
weather year, it's not enough to really make the cost to be issued difference. But I think with the last year, with so many different regions
across the globe that were impacted that, that's why you really seem such a difference in this temperatures. So, let's take a closer look, OK?
So, we're talking about a couple of different options here. When you look at global wine production back in 2015, it was around a 104 million
hectoliters, down to 95 for just this past year, OK?
Now, it's a couple of regions, we talked about that. For example, South Africa has been dealing with so much drought to the last year, that's had a
big impact. Same thing across Europe, we've had the wildfires that have raged across areas of California. And then, also a lot of frost across
here. So we need to take into consideration all of those things, if not one, but three different regions that were impacted, and that takes its
Take a look, this is the South Africa reservoir levels. Notice, over the last several years, 2017 really was a low point for them. So, while it's
been declining for years, hitting near low point really doesn't help in terms of trying to get production back up.
Then, we turn to California. Now, yes, wildfires are common in California, that's no big surprise but look at this, three of the top 10 most
distracted wildfires in California history happened last year. So, when you have instances like that, it not only affects maybe one or two
ventures, you're now talking whole regions that are impacted by the wildfires. And then, also Europe. OK, we've had not only drought, we've
Take a look at these three particular countries. Can we talk about wholesale wine prices, but 10 percent for France, then you goes to be in 45
percent difference. And then, take a look at Italy, 74 percent. And again, you know, when you talk about wine, so these are countries people
sing to get their wine from. Especially, if you're looking for some of the European blend.
Now, take a look, the unfortunate part is, in the short term, we have not very pleasant weather moving back into some of these European countries.
Specifically, for France, for Spain, for Italy. Over the next 48 hours, we have severe weather that's going to be an impact for some of these
particular countries. Strong winds, isolated tornadoes in large hail. And hail is definitely a factor because potentially, not just damage a profit
by a crop out. So again, not necessarily the news you want to hear, but a short term and long terms.
KINKADE: So, you better stock up on wine now.
CHINCHAR: Yes, yes, absolutely.
KINKADE: I'm going to the store after this. Allison, thank you. Well, you can think about all that as you check on our Facebook page. As the
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We've heard from the American president on Twitter and at his rallies the show. It can be pretty hard to follow his outpouring of thoughts at
either. But how do you get the president to stop talking when he goes off the rails on live television? Here's our Jeanne Moos.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Like a runaway train.
TRUMP (via telephone): It's an absolute disgrace and I've been told them not involved.
BRIAN KILMEADE, CO-HOST, FOX & FRIENDS: Right, Mr. --
AINSLEY EARHARDT, CO-HOST, FOX & FRIENDS: Mr. President --
TRUMP: That just came out of the newspapers. I say that at speeches, remember?
MOOS: The president's stream of consciousness went speeding them a truck. But a president was unstoppable.
TRUMP: You know, a lot of people say oh, it was close.
TRUMP: The unemployment picture is the best -- it's been -- they're all fake news. I heard that for so long in CNN. You keep your sanity and it
works very well. But last night I did watch --
EARHARDT: Mr. President, I have one question.
TRUMP: I did watch a liar-leaker --
MOOS: But daily show describe did as when grandpa is telling the same stories again and it can't get him off the phone. The co-host even tried
to collectively interject.
TRUMP: Actually gave the questions to the --
KILMEADE: Yes, but don't worry about it now.
EARHARDT: I want to ask you --
TRUMP: No, no, but think of it. I think we're doing very well, let you what happen.
KILMEADE: Mr. President -- OK, we're running out of time.
MOOS: At least, no one said --
TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
MOOS: Though maybe the host sure to have.
KILMEADE: Let's talk about --
TRUMP: I think he'll do better than people think in the midterms.
KILMEADE: Mr. President --
TRUMP: Did you know it's very --
TRUMP: The economy is so strong --
MOOS: Finally, they resorted to the oldest trick in the book to get the president off the phone, telling him he is too busy to keep talking to
KILMEADE: We could talk to you all day but it looks like --
KILMEADE: -- you have a million things to do.
TRUMP: Well, you could have --
KILMEADE: I/m very busy to But I hope you could join us again.
[11:55:01] MOOS: The president had time to talk but not to shop when Melania's 48th birthday he admitted --
TRUMP: Maybe I didn't get her so much.
MOOS: Flowers and a card.
TRUMP: You know, I'm very busy --
KILMEADE: At this point --
TRUMP: -- to be running out looking for presents.
MOOS: But who needs to run out for flowers?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, it turns out I've got a rose card
MOOS: Until maybe President Trump, better ask her wife too.
TRUMP: Excuse me.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN --
TRUMP: Excuse me.
MOOS: New York.
KINKADE: She went those great packages. I'm Lynda Kinkade. That was CONNECT THE WORLD, thanks so much for watching. I want to leave you with a
world record set just an hour ago for the largest wave ever surfed. Take a look at that.