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GEORGE HOWELL, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Terror on the streets of Paris. Investigators working to find out more about the suspect who carried out a deadly knife attack in France's capital.
Plus Israel says it's stepping up security along the Gaza border. This, as the U.S. president prepares to officially move its embassy to Jerusalem.
And later this hour, the trumpets, the cavalry, rehearsal preparations underway for the royal wedding.
We're live from CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta. Welcome to the viewers around the world. I am George Howell. CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.
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HOWELL: Around the world, good day to you. We start with the investigation of the deadly stabbing attack that took place in Paris on Saturday. A judicial source now tells CNN the attacker was born in 1997 in Chechnya, Russia.
He was shot dead by police after killing one person and wounding four others. This video from social media appears to show the aftermath of that brutal attack, people there running for help while a victim lies bleeding on the ground.
The attack happened in Central Paris, in an area popular with both Parisians and tourists and it is full of bars and restaurants. And it is not far from the opera house. ISIS is claiming responsibility, claiming online that the attacker was its soldier. It did not provide proof to back that up.
Let's get the very latest now with CNN's Melissa Bell, live near the site of the attack.
Melissa, what can you tell us about what happened, how all this played out behind you? MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're learning a little bit more, as you say, George, about the man himself. He was born in Chechnya in 1997, also that his mother and father are now in police custody but also that was what the French call (INAUDIBLE), that is he was on a list of people suspected of having radical ideas who might go on to pose a threat to security.
Now there are more than 10,000 people on that list and we've seen time and time again over the last few years the difficulty that authorities in keeping track of those people and preventing them from going on the rampage.
That is exactly what happened here yesterday on this street corner here in Paris. We know that he came at the corner and was killed by police just behind me. One man, a British man who owns the restaurant just in front of where the young man was killed after having killed one local man and wounded four others with a knife, we heard from Oliver a little while ago. He told exactly what he had seen last night just before 9:00 pm.
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OLIVER WOODHEAD, L'ENTENTE RESTAURANT: We first heard a police car went past and parked just here, in front of Daniel's bar. My barman and I heard cries. So he ran out first. I followed him out. And at that moment, the police men were on foot.
At that moment we -- I saw the attacker coming just down this street here with blood on his hands, carrying a cutter and with his arms open, gesturing to the three police men who were here.
And they managed to sort of encircle him. They Tasered him several times, too, I think missed him. He managed to isolate one of the police men and move down the street. And as he went in with the -- went in, the police men shot twice and he fell just 2 meters in front of my restaurant.
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BELL: You can hear from the tone in that man's voice of the shock of anyone who would have been around here last night and this would have been an extremely packed neighborhood on a Saturday night.
There would have been plenty of people milling around who will have seen what happened. As well as we met with the mayor of Paris, who came to meet with locals and see the scene herself, Anne Hidalgo.
She said a special center has been opened in Paris town hall for any who might have been affected, who wants to seek psychological counseling. But she did say this has been a terrible tragedy. Our first thoughts go to the family of that young man who so tragically died here last night.
But she said Paris is still standing -- George.
That leads to the other question I wanted to ask you, a city that has seen so many attacks, Melissa, what is the overall mood of people, given what happened?
BELL: There is almost a sense of sad habit to this. This is something that people are no longer terribly surprised by. There have been a lull in those terror attacks. We've seem many of them over the last few years. Indeed, the death last night brings the total to 249 people killed since 2015 in France in terror attacks.
But what we've really seen over the course of --
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BELL: -- the last 18 months or so were security forces specifically targeted often, by lone assaults, police men and women, the military personnel that police the streets of Paris and other cities around France.
We hadn't seem so many cases of civilians being attacked. And then last October, two young women were stabbed outside Marseille train station. And of course in March, the latest terror attack with that hostage situation that we saw in the south of France.
But here again in Paris, civilians attacked as they went about their daily life as Paris once again went about a usual Saturday night, with people enjoying life, enjoying the bars and the restaurants. Paris is very much in shock and what has happened once again here.
HOWELL: Melissa Bell live in the French capital. Thank you for the reporting. We will keep in touch with you for context on this.
I spoke earlier with Fawaz Gerges, who is the chair of contemporary Middle East studies at the London School of Economics and political science. I asked him specifically what we can glean from what investigators are saying about the suspect's background.
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FAWAZ GERGES, DIR. MIDDLE EAST CENTER, LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS: Thousands of Chechens have been radicalized. Throughout the 1990s and even now, thousands of individuals from Chechnya have joined not only the so-called Islamic State but even Al Qaeda.
Top leaders of ISIS are from Chechnya. In fact, one of the most celebrated military commanders of ISIS is a Chechen. So we should not be surprised that some individuals from Chechnya have been radicalized.
But what is fascinating about this particular attack, I mean knife wielder, he is not part of a larger cell. He did not have access to deadly firearms, again, a lone wolf. It seems even though ISIS has claimed responsibility, ISIS has claimed responsibility for every attack that has taken place in the world since 2013.
I am not suggesting that ISIS ideology is not very potent. My take on it -- and I hope I am right -- that the trend, this particular wave of ISIS, has become less potent, is not as potent as it has been in the past four years. (END VIDEO CLIP)
HOWELL: Again, that was Fawaz Gerges, the author of "Making the Arab World."
Now to Israel. Security there is especially tight right now as the United States prepares to officially relocate its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. That ceremony set to take place on Monday and as part of enhanced security, a 1-km tunnel in Northern Gaza was blown up Saturday by Israeli forces.
It is the sixth Palestinian tunnel to be destroyed in six months. The opening of the embassy on Monday coincides with the anniversary of Israel's founding in 1948, a date that often inflames passions among Palestinians, referred to as a catastrophe for their people.
Tensions in the Middle East are especially high after the U.S. backed out of the Iran nuclear deal. That happened last week, Iran's Foreign Minister has arrived in Beijing in a last-ditch effort to save that deal.
On Tuesday, Javad Zarif travels to Brussels to lobby European officials to keep the agreement alive. CNN is covering the story with our correspondents across the region in various angles are Fred Pleitgen is live in Tehran but let us start with Oren Lieberman, following the story live in Jerusalem.
Oren, Monday certainly a big day. Tell us more about the significance of this move.
OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This is a move that presidents, both Republicans and Democrats, have promised they would make, recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moving the embassy from where it has been in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
And yet it is a promise that has never gone fulfilled until president Donald Trump made that promise during the campaign, fulfilled part of it by recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in December and is now moving the embassy officially opening tomorrow.
Even if this, it is just a symbolic step, especially a changing of the plaque to call what has been a consular services building to the embassy and having the ambassador work out of here.
And yet symbolism here is so incredibly significant. It comes on the 70th anniversary of the State of Israel, that when Palestinians mark what they call Nakba Day, what they consider the catastrophe of the creation of the State of Israel 70 years ago, when some 750,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled from their home in historic Palestine.
That all contributes what is likely to be an incredibly volatile week, with thousands of Palestinians in Gaza preparing protests for tomorrow and the next day against the Gaza border fence. On top of all that, the day is Jerusalem Day, where Israelis mark what they consider the reunification of the city. That celebration includes a parade of Israeli Jews through the Muslim
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LIEBERMANN: -- of itself a very provocative day. And on top of all of that, this week will mark the beginning of the month of Ramadan, which brings its own set of tensions between Israelis and Palestinians.
George, in short, there are any number of days this week that could set off much wider protests and demonstrations. It will be an incredibly volatile week with so many flashpoints, both here in Jerusalem, throughout Israel, Gaza and the West Bank.
HOWELL: You tell a story that gives me the indication both you and our Ian Lee might be quite busy this week, Oren. Thank you so much. Stand by for us. Let's now bring in Fred Pleitgen, following the story in Tehran.
Fred, look, this move raises concerns about U.S. policy in the Middle East for sure. Just days after President Trump backed out of the Iran nuclear deal, could the relocation of this embassy make things worse?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, just on top of all the volatility that Oren was just talking about, it certainly could, to a certain extent. I think you are going to hear some protests here from the Iranians, certainly from the Iranian government, the Iranian religious leadership as well as far as that embassy move is concerned.
But I think right now the main focus for the Iranian government, also for the Iranian religious leadership, George, is going to be that move by the U.S. president to get the U.S. out of the nuclear agreement.
You've already mentioned that Javad Zarif, the country's foreign minister, has embarked on his trip to essentially try and save that agreement. He's in China today. By all accounts that is probably the easiest part of that trip. The Chinese very much on board with this agreement, the Chinese are already doing major business here in Iran.
He'll then go to Russia and then comes the really hard part, which is in Europe because the Iranians certainly are expecting a lot of the Europeans. It's interesting because it seems to us as though the moderates and the hardliners here in Iran right now, very much in lockstep as to what they want if this deal is going to be saved.
They said they would like the agreement to be preserved but they want to make sure that Iran's interests are preserved and protected as part of that deal, which means that they want investments to come here to Iran.
They want companies, especially from Europe, to be able to come to Iran, to invest here, to bring jobs here, to bring money here without having to face retribution from the United States, which means those companies would have to be protected by European governments, which means European governments would have to go essentially against the United States.
It is no secret that the leaders of many European countries, of course, especially Germany and France, were not happy by President Trump's decision to pull out of the nuclear agreement. The big question now is how far are they willing to go to save that agreement and can they find some sort of way forward together with the Iranian government.
The Iranians have said if everything falls apart, they are more than willing and capable to start uranium enrichment once again and they said it will be on an industrial scale and without any restriction -- George.
HOWELL: Fred, stand by.
Oren, the question to you, it's no secret that Israel has never supported this deal, has always been against the framework of the deal as it stood.
So the question, does the failure, the potential failure of this deal, could it bring these two nations closer to conflict?
LIEBERMANN: We've talked about this quite a bit, especially in the last few days, where Israel and Iran have drawn closer to each other. We talked about essentially their proxy wars, which is Israel fighting with Hezbollah, the Iranian proxy in Lebanon.
But direct conflict had never been something we talked seriously about until the last few weeks and especially the last few days, when the Israeli military says Iranian forces in Syria fired some 20 rockets on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
There was very much a collective holding of the breath not only in the Middle East but also Europe, the U.S. and Russia, to see if it would escalate from that point. Israel responded furiously with rockets and surface-to-surface missiles, hitting what they say were dozens of Iranian targets in Syria.
And then it was the question of would it escalate, would we see an all-out war between Israel and Iran?
And that leads to questions of where do Russia and the U.S. fit into that, into what be an all-out war there and where does it go?
Thankfully, we saw a dissipation of the tension, as the international community stepped in and tried to get everybody to take a step back in and to hold off. And that is what we have seen holding so far.
It is worth pointing out that the Israeli Defense Minister, Avigdor Lieberman, announced a short time ago on Twitter that he would be investing some 6.5 million shekels, which is $1.8 million in protection for communities up north. He has recently said communities up north are not ready if hostilities break out.
So the north very much the focus of, is there more escalation possible? Yes, absolutely. As everyone tries to step in, that is the
international community, to avoid that exact scenario.
HOWELL: Fred, this question to you. Always interested to get your insights from the people on the ground there people in Tehran and throughout that nation. You're looking at the potential for this deal to fail. You're looking at the reality of increased tension, certainly in Syria, with Iran's presence in Syria, with Israel.
What is the feeling among people in Tehran --
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HOWELL: -- about what we are seeing right now, the table as it is laid out now?
PLEITGEN: I think there is a lot of people who are very concerned about the situation. It really depends on who you ask. A lot of the very conservative hardliners here, they say, look, Iran is certainly not going to back down.
They say essentially they would be ready, if anything sort of escalates, probably less so in the Middle East but much more so as far as the economy is concerned. But nevertheless, when you speak to the vast majority of people here in Iran, many of them want the nuclear agreement to work.
Many of them fear that, if it does not work, that they could face economic hardship. And if you look at what has already happened in the run-up to President Trump pulling out of that nuclear agreement, the currency here, the real has essentially tanked.
It is very difficult for people to exchange money here at the moment because the government wants to keep hard currency inside the country, businesses are having a lot of trouble. Unemployment is a big problem as well.
So a lot of people want to preserve this nuclear agreement and also, on a different level than the economy altogether, I mean, essentially, there are many Iranians who are saying this nuclear agreement, the talks about it, it was essentially the first time that Iran and the United States were really talking face-to-face and trying to hammer out an agreement together.
Many people just diplomatically saw that as a big step forward. Now it seems as though there are -- they're taking or the U.S. at least is taking big strides in the other direction. That is certainly not something that many people here in this region, in Iran, specifically, necessarily want to see because they do think that is something that could lead to some pretty big tensions in the future.
And certainly their economic situation is something that many people are extremely concerned about.
HOWELL: CNN senior international correspondent Fred Pleitgen, live for us in Tehran, Iran, and our Oren Lieberman following the story live in Jerusalem. Gentlemen, thank you for the reporting. We will stay in touch with you both.
Still ahead, a teen bride sentenced to death for killing her husband. Why people around the world are calling for her release. We'll have that story ahead.
Plus those living on Hawaii's big island are not out of danger yet. We'll give you an update on the Kilauea volcano which is viewing lava and dangerous smoke and it could get worse.
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HOWELL: Welcome back.
In Indonesia, suspected suicide bombers have killed at least 10 people at three Christian churches.
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HOWELL: This happened on Sunday in the port city of Surabaya, that's Indonesia's second largest city. The three explosions also injured 41 people, including two police officers.
Investigators aren't giving out any other details at this point about the victims at last check. There's no word on who is responsible for the attacks.
A case out of Sudan is capturing international attention and also pleas for mercy. A 19-year-old girl faces hanging for killing her husband, Noura Hussein says her husband raped her as his relatives held her down and she says she stabbed him when he tried to rape her again.
She now has less than two weeks to appeal her death sentence. My colleague, Isha Sesay, has been following the story and is live in our London Bureau.
Isha, what has the international response been so far?
And how might it have any bearing in the courts?
ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): The international response has been loud and it has been one of condemnation of Noura's plight. This 19-year old finds herself facing the death penalty for stabbing her husband in such circumstances.
I think the international community looks at this and wonders about the culture in Sudan, where the legal age of marriage is as young as 10 and marital rape is not a crime.
And it is one of outrage and it is one of condemnation that this girl should find herself here in this space. Having talked to Noura's lawyer on Saturday, he says that focus, that pressure that is being brought to bear is working and that authorities there in Sudan are very mindful of the criticism and the way that they are being viewed in this situation. For her lawyer, the focus now is on that appeal. They have less than two weeks to formally file that. The decision, which will be made by a three-judge panel, won't be made for another 3-4 months.
But Noura's lawyer is pretty confident, he said, of the strength of their legal argument. But it is also worth mentioning that the lawyer is placing his hopes on a second, simultaneous track if you will.
The husband that Noura killed, his family also have a huge part to play in all of this. They could intervene up until the very last moment that Noura could be taken from the place she is at, that prison, and taken to where she would be hanged.
They could intervene by granting her amnesty; in effect, forgiving the crime. They have that power. And the lawyer tells me there are various parties reaching out to the family in the hope that they can be persuaded to do so.
So the international pressure is working. People are very sensitive to the outside view, outside world's view of this. We just have to wait and see what the judges say -- George.
And you touch on this, Isha, but clearly the international community, people see this story differently than it is viewed in Sudan, where marital rape is not illegal but, in fact, common.
SESAY: Yes, there isn't one thought, if you will, one consensus opinion therein Sudan. It is worth pointing out that there is a significant bloc of people that stand with Noura, that have been part of the social media campaign, Justice for Noura, from inside Sudan.
There are women's groups, there are civil society groups, all up in arms, all very loudly saying Noura is the victim here, that she was forcibly married as a 15-year old and then subjected to this marital violence, this marital rape.
So for those people, very clearly, Noura should not be facing the death penalty. But then again, as you make the point, George, there are those within Sudan, which is a patriarchal society, who feel that the husband did nothing wrong here and that if anyone is guilty of a crime, it is Noura -- George.
HOWELL: Wow, it is a sad story, to say the least. Isha, we will stay in touch with you as you continue to follow your sources.
North Korea is revealing when it will dismantle it nuclear test site and it is rolling out a welcome mat for international journalists covering this unprecedented event. We will go live to Seoul, South Korea, ahead.
Plus it's not over yet. Another split in the Kilauea volcano that could cause more problems for those living nearby.
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HOWELL: Welcome back to our viewers around the world. You are watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm George Howell with the headlines we're following for you this hour.
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HOWELL: We're learning more now about when North Korea plans to make good on its promise to dismantle its nuclear test site. North Korean state media says it will happen between May 23rd and May 25th.
Tunnels will be blown up and observation and research facilities will be removed. The U.S. president, Donald Trump, thanks, said this. He said, thank you, and added, "It is a very smart and gracious gesture," ahead of his summit with the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. That is set for June 12th.
Our senior international correspondent, Ivan Watson, is following the story, live in Seoul, South Korea.
Ivan, a part of the plan involves international journalists to be --
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HOWELL: -- inside North Korea to witness this happen as proof.
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That is right. The North Koreans are announcing that they'll bring in journalists from a number of different countries to witness what it is describing as a ceremony for the dismantlement of the Punggye-ri nuclear testing site.
It's in a mountain and that is where, as recently as last September, North Korea tested its sixth and most recent, most powerful nuclear weapons test.
As part of this ceremony, it says it's going to demolish the tunnels into the mountain there and kind of remove scientists and remove guards from that area and basically shut it down.
So it is not only President Trump that's welcomed it. It is also the South Korean government as well. This isn't the first time that we have seen a kind of demonstration like this from the North Koreans, during a period of discussion and diplomacy.
Actually almost 10 years ago exactly, North Korea demolished, in front of journalists -- CNN was invited; there was a U.S. envoy there -- a water cooling tower used as part of its nuclear facilities for plutonium enrichment. This was in June 2008.
And talks fell apart within a year after that. And North Korea conducted another nuclear weapons test -- George.
HOWELL: It does seem though that the momentum is building ahead of this summit, all things staying on track.
WATSON: Certainly. And another gesture that North Korea appears to have made and this is coming to us by way of the international civil aviation organization, is that they had meetings with North Korean aviation officials in Pyongyang a couple of days ago and they say they were told that North Korea pledged to no longer carry out any unannounced surprise ballistic missile tests.
If you go back to last fall, in this part of the world, we were being woken up by emergency alerts about these missile tests on almost a weekly, if not every two weeks basis. That is another signal that North Korea is sending, that it wants to reduce tension here ahead of the summit on June 12th with President Trump and North Korea's leader in Singapore.
Meanwhile, America's top diplomat is talking about a kind of grand bargain that he would like to set up with Pyongyang. Take a listen to an excerpt of what Mike Pompeo said alongside the South Korean foreign minister in Washington a couple of days ago. Take a listen.
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MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: If North Korea's takes bold action to quickly denuclearize, the United States is prepared to work with North Korea to achieve prosperity on a par with our South Korean friends.
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WATSON: So you hear there and he went on to suggest that he could -- the U.S. could really help North Korea's economy. So there are already hints about some kind of transfer of assets or aid or something in the event that North Korea does completely shut down its nuclear weapons program -- George.
HOWELL: I guess the greater question is, though, the United States offering to help a China also seems open to helping. So really it comes down to the North Korean leader, who he aligns himself with more.
Ivan, thank you so much. We'll stay in touch with you.
Moving on now to the U.S. state of Hawaii. Another fissure has just opened up on the Kilauea volcano, spewing steam and lava from the ground. Hawaiian officials are also warning of a potentially explosive mix as lava from the volcano drains toward the underground water table.
In the meantime, the U.S. president has declared a major disaster there. Several dozen structures have been destroyed since Kilauea started erupting last month.
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[05:35:00] HOWELL: Still ahead, the rapper, Childish Gambino, takes on racism and violence in America, among many other issues. We break down this very complex video that he produced. Stay with us.
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HOWELL: Musicians often use their art to comment on society, from gun violence to racial tensions, police brutality and even the role of social media today. In Childish Gambino's, "This is America," is a running commentary on all of these issues, plus many others.
The rapper, also known as Donald Glover, dropped the gritty, the graphic music video last week that so many people are watching. So far it has more than 97 million views. We're going to take a look at this but I do warn you the video is graphic. It is very direct, gets to the point.
It may be difficult for some to watch.
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HOWELL (voice-over): Despite its very frank position on violence, people keep turning to this video. They keep watching it over and over, trying to interpret the different symbolism that might have missed.
While the dancing is in the foreground, that might draw your attention, it is a distraction from the chaos playing out in the background.
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HOWELL: Let us talk more about this now with pop culture critic, Miki Turner, Miki, also an assistant professor at the University of Southern California.
Thank you so much for your time today.
Where to start here, Miki?
There so many deep layers to this video, so many messages to unpack. I have to say that my wife and I, we watched it at least a dozen times and we continue to see more and more themes. We will get into those specifics in a moment.
But first, what was your first impression about "This Is America?"
MIKI TURNER, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: The first time I actually saw it, I actually saw it on "Saturday Night Live" last week. And because the lyrics are so hard to understand because of the way he's singing, you know, I looked at it more as just a great musical performance more so than -- I did not immediately understand what the underlying message was until the end. OK?
I should have captured that at the beginning when you know, he blows the head off the dummy but I instinctively knew it was about, you know, the sort of cultural divide in America, the current climate. But I did not know how deep he was going with it and that it encompassed African dance, which I do not think a lot of people realize, and his movements.
And then I actually took a look at the lyrics to have a deeper understanding of what it was really all about.
HOWELL: Right. I mean you have to look at it in its different parts. For some, they find it profound, a piece of art. Others find parts of it offensive. But again, it is packed full of messages, juxtaposed in different layers, like a scene that we want to play here, where Glover is in the foreground. He is dancing.
We will talk about that part in a moment. But pay close attention to what is happening in the background of this clip.
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There is a point there. I do not know our viewers saw it, but a person fell from the second floor, apparently symbolizing suicide, chaos all around Glover, all the while he just keeps dancing, distracting from it all and saying, "Watch me move."
What did you see?
TURNER: Right. It wasn't until I watched it about the third or fourth time that I realized that the dancers, the background performers, were actually sort of performing riot themes and reaction to all the chaos in America. So it took me a minute to realize that as well.
But you know, I will be honest, you know, initially, I was caught up in the sexuality of it because he's out there, he's dancing, he doesn't have a shirt on, I'm like, dang, Donald Glover is kind of Buffett.
So I got caught up in that initially. But then, you know, I really did start to see the symbolism.
HOWELL: It reminded me, looking at it, just that scene, it reminded me of the night that Michael Brown was shot and killed. I was a court runner in Chicago, went there that --
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HOWELL: -- very night to cover the story. And I just remember the scene, the feel of the streets there and when I saw that, that is exactly where it took me.
I also want to bring up this other moment. If we can show this full- screen image, this pose that harkens back to despicable imagery of African Americans during times of segregation in the Jim Crow South. But gun violence, that was a big topic on full display here.
And depending upon who you are, so if the slogan "Make America great again" is your rallying cry, you will see it one way. If you live on the streets of Chicago, where gun violence continues to plague those streets, you'll see it another.
The guns handled with care, people being slaughtered but the beat goes on through the video, Miki.
What do you make of that?
TURNER: That is really deep and that is really true. It seems that we've come to a point where we are kind of so desensitized to the violence that, you know, no one is really -- it's not really resonating with people, what guns are doing anymore because we're so desensitized to it. It happens almost every day.
And it kind of reminds me of 1968, when almost every day there was some sort of thing happening, either with the assassination of King, the assassination of RFK, the riots in Chicago during the Democratic convention, the Vietnam War. We were bombarded with images of violence.
And I think then it had more of an impact than it does now.
HOWELL: Miki, the last part of this, the end of the video, that moment where Glover is running with terror in his eyes. Take a look.
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HOWELL (voice-over): Miki, the whites of his eyes, terror on his face, the crowd chasing him in the background, your thoughts.
Where does this take you?
TURNER: Oh, it takes me back to the Deep South and the days when the Klan were lynching. It looks like he is running from trying to be lynched. And especially that scene, where you see the whites of his eyes. That was very spooky. I mean, that that gave me chills a little bit because that took us back to a time when those things actually happened on a daily basis.
You do not see it so much now or it's not reported but that was really chilling. I think that was more impactful than anything else in the video.
HOWELL: It is certainly more than a video, to say the very least, Miki, thank you so much for your time today.
TURNER: Thank you, George.
HOWELL: It's deep. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
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HOWELL: The wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle is less than a week from now and Buckingham Palace has released images showing Queen Elizabeth's formal consent.
In the U.K., the first six people in line to the throne are required to get the queen's permission to tie the knot. She actually gave her consent for the marriage back in March. But we're just now getting a look at that document. It is designed with symbols of the United Kingdom and of Markel's home state of California.
The couple will receive it after the wedding on Saturday. Now in the meantime, they have asked the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church to give the address at the service, which will be conducted by the Dean of Windsor. The Archbishop of Canterbury will officiate the marriage vows.
As we await the big day, people are also wondering what will the wedding dress look like and also what about the jewelry?
Our Lynda Kinkade takes a look.
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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When you're marrying a prince, you can expect to wear a diamond tiara on the big day. To discuss what Meghan Markle might wear, I have Kristen Maxwell Cooper from The Knot.
Now Meghan Markle is just a commoner like the rest of us. But she will likely follow British tradition, right?
KRISTEN MAXWELL COOPER, THE KNOT (voice-over): Yes. So this is one tradition that I believe Meghan will stick to. We have some tiaras here from Fine Fellow (ph), which I think are reminiscent of what she might choose.
So here we have -- this one is adorned in pearls and this is significant because Princess Diana actually wore a pearl tiara on her wedding day. So she may choose pearls to honor the late Princess Diana.
This one is a little more fashion forward. It's got pearls, it's got diamonds, it's got metal. So she sticks to something a little bit simpler for her dress, this would be a great attention grabber for sure.
Then this last one, this is the most regal of the set. This is reminiscent of one of Queen Elizabeth's favorite crowns. So this could be an option for her as well. KINKADE: So is it likely that she will choose something from the
royal collection or perhaps wear Princess Diana's tiara from her wedding day, or could one be commissioned?
COOPER: I believe that Queen Elizabeth will most likely give something to her.
KINKADE: Lovely present.
COOPER: Yes, exactly, or put something on loan for her for the day.
KINKADE: Excellent. Looking forward to see those.
These are the earrings. We obviously know that she's very understated and elegant in her selection. We also know that Kate and both Princess Diana wore earrings given to them by their parents.
Is that a tradition we'll see?
COOPER: Here's some examples of what might be given to her. So we have two pairs from Forever Mark (ph). We have something that's a little bit simpler, a little bit more understated. We also have these ear crawlers. These feel a little more fashion forward. These might be perfect for her second or third look.
Then we have two pairs that I believe a bit more regal feeling. These are from Tacori (ph). These are definitely royal wedding worthy. They are valued around $200,000.
KINKADE: A princess price tag.
COOPER: Yes. And then we have the blue sapphire, which has really been popularized by the royal family. So she may wear these as sort of a nod.
KINKADE: And of course we know the princess will wear --
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KINKADE: -- shoes and she'll be on her feet all day. She'll want something comfortable but something elegant.
COOPER: Yes. I think we're all really focused on the dress but the shoes are important, too. These are from Tamara Mellon (ph). And she's worn a pair of her shoes before. So we already know she's a fan.
What I love about these are they're a classic pump but with a twist. They've got the sexy Dior say (ph). They've got the mixed materials. I think these are perfect for the ceremony.
KINKADE: Yes, perhaps something with a little more bling for one of the receptions.
COOPER: Yes, one of the many. So these feel very celebratory. They're metallic. They've got the fun bling around the ankle strap. So these are great for maybe her second or third look.
KINKADE: And are they expecting presents at the end of this big day?
COOPER: Sure. So what they've actually opted to do is have a charity wedding registry. So they've asked their guests instead of giving us a gift, please make a donation to one of these charities that is near and dear to us. And this is a big trend.
So if you've started a traditional registry on The Knot, you can actually attach a charity to it. So every time a guest buys a gift, we actually make a donation on your behalf.
KINKADE: That is a wonderful idea and of course they do no need another dinner set --
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COOPER: Probably not.
KINKADE: That's excellent. Great idea. Thank you very much.
COOPER: Thank you.
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HOWELL: The world will be watching.
And thank you for watching this hour of CNN NEWSROOM. I'm George Howell at the CNN Center in Atlanta. A CNN special program, "A Royal Match: Meghan and Harry" is next.
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