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HALA GORANI TONIGHT
Military Rehearse In Windsor Ahead Of Wedding; Couple To Ride Through Windsor By Carriage; Meghan Markle From Girl-Next-Door To Royalty; Indian Entrepreneur Attending Saturday's Wedding; Hamas: 50 Members Killed In Violent Protests; Palestinians Feel Betrayed By Trump And Arab Leaders; Trump: U.S. Not Following Libya Model With North Korea; Royals Strained Relationship With Tabloid Media; Royal Nuptials Carry hefty Price Tag; Planners Estimate Wedding Will Cost $1.5 Million; What Will Meghan Markle Wear To Her Wedding; British Designers Favored For Royal Weddings. Aired 3- 4p ET
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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello and welcome, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. Tonight, a special program. We're live in the historic town
of Windsor as the anticipation ahead of the royal wedding reaches fever pitch. We have been out there. We've seen the people already gathered in
anticipation of the big day.
There's less than two days to go. Now it's official, Meghan Markle will marry Prince Harry without her father by her side. In a statement earlier
she said, "Sadly, my father will not be attending our wedding. I have always cared for my father and hope he can be given the space he needs to
focus on his health."
Meanwhile, we got a taste of the spectacular pomp and ceremony we can look forward to as members of the British Armed Forces took to the streets to
rehear their roles. There they are not far from our position.
Also, in attendance in Windsor, the happy couple. They were driven up the long walk, as it's called, into the castle grounds. Remember that image
because it will be the final leg on Saturday's procession route.
Let's go to Bianco Nobilo. She is outside Windsor Castle with more. Talk to us about these rehearsals and what do they reveal about what to expect
on Saturday, Bianca?
BIANCA NOBILO, CNN REPORTING: The rehearsals were mainly focused on the procession, which is going to happen after the wedding ceremony. The
wedding happens at 12:00 noon local time. The procession in the carriage is going to start at 1:00 p.m. It's about two miles long.
And it's going to passed exactly where I'm standing now all along the high street, which I can tell you is just teeming with people. I know you've
seen it today, Hala. There are just throngs. It's growing every single day. So, it's going to continue and then go down that very long walk.
Of course, everyone has put their fingers crossed the weather is going to be good because the carriage is intended to be open so that Harry and
Meghan can involve people in their special day.
They want to be able to reach out to all of those who have traveled from far and wide to be here. I have been speaking to those who are camping out
on the streets that have traveled for hours, if not days to be here.
And they are so happy and so excited to be a part of this special day. So, the excitement is really ramping up and you can feel it.
GORANI: What about issues with security? I mean, there are going to be so many people gathered and huge crowds. How are they preparing for that?
NOBILO: There's a huge police presence, which you can see almost everywhere you go. Even if you go slightly outside of the area of the main
procession or near the castle, you can't walk a few feet without bumping into police officers, police officers on horses, police officers in cars.
There are vans stationed here. When you look at any estimates about how much this wedding will cost, security is usually the largest part of that
budget because, of course, it needs to be very closely monitored.
It's not something people are talking about too much today. They are focusing on all of the happiness, all of the souvenirs that they can buy.
In fact, a lot of people have been buying these t-shirts, Hala, and replica rings, which I have here too.
So, the mood is really jolly today. There are so many people. The police are doing a great job in fact trying to keep this chaos at bay.
GORANI: Yes, absolutely. I have seen -- I actually overheard someone saying, I'm going to park my car. I found a spot two miles away. We are
talking -- we're Thursday. The wedding is Saturday. He said I will park my car two miles away and walk the rest of the way to make sure I have a
good spot. So, that's how excited some royal watchers are. Thanks, Bianca.
It's been a hectic buildup to the wedding for the couple. Let's get more perspective with Kate Williams, a historian and CNN royal commentator. So,
Meghan issued this personal statement about her father not attending today.
KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, very personal. There has been a lot of speculation how is Meghan feeling, the uncertainty, the fact that
her father wasn't coming to walk her down the aisle. One minute he said he wasn't coming, next he said he was, and then he's now in hospital, which is
a very stressful time for any bride, waiting up to a wedding.
Particularly now that your father's ill and also, he is not able to come with her. So, we don't yet know who is going to walk her down the aisle,
which is (inaudible) to be her mother, Doria, who arrived today.
And apparently today, has had tea with Charles and with Kamila and with Harry and Meghan, and it was a very jolly occasion, I understand. She's
met the family. But we do think that she's going to be walking Meghan down the aisle on Saturday.
She's already accompanying her from Cliveden House, the hotel they will be at. So, there will be there together, and although, her father isn't going
to be there, I think Meghan and the royal family and everyone, all the friends are really going to rally around them to make sure it's the best
day it can be possible can.
[15:05:12] GORANI: And the couple today drove past reporters and tourists and royal watchers. They are rehearsing -- I presume she must be
rehearsing her walk. He must be rehearsing his walk. They were wearing -- she was wearing white.
WILLIAMS: She was wearing white, so she was wearing white outfit. He was wearing white, too. They came in. The queens is (inaudible) residence, we
believe. We've seen the flag and see her coming in.
And we do think the rehearsal is going on at the moment and all kinds of rehearsals need to be looked at, how you walk, walking back and forth. The
queen, for example, when she was rehearsing her wedding, she had dust sheet tied around her waist so that the train could be checked to (inaudible)
could be adjusted.
So, there are a lot to rehearse, walking there, walking back, taking the vows, trying to make sure that when the eyes of the world are upon them,
not a single mistake is made.
GORANI: Now, in terms of the guest list, some cousins who you would have expected to be on that guest list are reportedly excluded from this wedding
such as the children of Prince Michael of Kent and other more distant cousins.
WILLIAMS: Yes, they are cousins of Prince Harry. They know him well. They are very fond of him. We understand they are upset. They had
expected to go, but certainly, Prince Harry and Meghan had a small wedding by royal standards. The chapel can hold 800. They are only having 600. A
lot of family and friends --
GORANI: Also, there are 200 places that are empty.
WILLIAMS: They could squash in a -- they have chosen to make it more intimate and we aren't seeing Mrs. May, our prime minister because she has
been told only friends family. So, I think they really are limiting it, making it small, intimate, none of what we would call the minor royals are
invited. We expect to see Victoria and David Beckham, Elton John.
GORANI: Who are they with, with Prince Harry?
WILLIAMS: Prince Harry and particularly they went to William's wedding. They are friends of him through football, Olympics. They've got some of
the royal family in general.
GORANI: OK, and let's talk a little bit about the media here. It's the "Mail" on Sunday so "The Daily Mail" essentially that published this report
on Meghan's father staging that paparazzi photo shoot. Meghan is going to have to get used to a paparazzi, a tabloid media scrutiny. This could be
her life from now on.
WILLIAMS: Huge amounts of scrutiny. This is going to be her life. Prince Harry has said he found it difficult that girls can take him on and we see
why. It's not just the fact that you are going to get scrutinized. It's the fact that your family are going to get scrutinized.
Skeletons come out of the cupboard and also, in the case of the Markles, they find it very difficult to know how to behave. The father has been
chased by paparazzi. He has been photographed everywhere. Huge amounts of pressure put on him.
He, of course, has blamed the heart attack on the stress, and really, Meghan, her life has completely changed --
GORANI: She was an actress. She's used to being on red carpets and things like that, but her family is not used to this type --
WILLIAMS: It's very different. The Middletons, they were used to it. They were familiar with the British press. They knew William very well.
The Markles are thrust into it overnight. We understand also that some of the family arrived, even if they don't have invitations, they're hoping to
get them. They don't have them, but there's words they might be reporting for various channels. That's not what the royal family wants.
GORANI: The half-sister?
WILLIAMS: The half-sister, her children and -- the half-sister is in America. She's broken her foot. The half-brother, Thomas Jr., his wife,
their children have apparently arrived. He drove with lots of luggage. They are set to make their point known.
GORANI: I'm sure that's -- not news Meghan Markle wanted to hear. Thanks very much, Kate Williams.
So, how did Meghan Markle go from Hollywood actress and also an activist for things like gender rights to a member of the royal family. CNN's Jason
Carroll chronicles her story.
JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Meghan Markle's life began here in Los Angeles. It's the city where she was born. Her
mother, Doria, a social worker is African-American and her father, Thomas, an Emmy Award-winning lighting director is white.
(on camera): Even at an early age while growing up in Los Angeles, Markle started showing early signs of speaking up about issues that would later
help define her as an adult namely her biracial identity and gender equality.
MEGHAN MARKLE: It's right to grow up thinking these things that just mom does everything.
CARROLL (voice-over): Markle was offended by an Ivory dish detergent commercial because it focused on women doing housework.
MARKLE: And I said, wait a minute, how could somebody say that?
CARROLL: So that then 11-year-old Markle wrote to Proctor & Gamble.
MARKLE: I was wondering if you would be able to change your commercial to people all over America.
[15:10:08] CARROLL: Her letter worked, Proctor & Gamble changed their commercial. Around that same year, Markle took a stand on racial
background. She told "El Magazine" that while in class, she was asked to check a box for the census, Caucasian or black.
She wrote, "My teacher told me to check the box for Caucasian because that's how you look, Meghan, Markle refused. Her father later telling her
to draw her own box.
(on camera): Markle's parents eventually enrolled her at Immaculate Heart. It's a private all-girls middle school and high school. Some of her
teachers here still have fond memories of her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My first thought actually was he is so lucky.
CARROLL (voice-over): Maria Polio (ph) was Markle's theology teacher. She talked about Markle wanting to volunteer at a soup kitchen in downtown
L.A.'s skid row and the advice she offered to help Markle overcome her fear of volunteering in a dangerous neighborhood.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to simply put the needs of others above your own fears. Meghan says that she's remembered that conversation ever since.
CARROLL: Markle ended volunteering on skid row for years. She also performed in school plays -- this rare footage is from her sophomore year
solo as Little Red Riding Hood in the production of "Into the Woods."
Markle went on to Northwestern University where she continued her love of drama. She double majored in theater and international studies. But
acting was her passion and once back in Los Angeles, she landed minor guest roles in shows like CSI New York before being cast as a regular on the USA
drama "Suits" in 2011.
Shortly after the show's launch, she married longtime boyfriend, film producer, Trevor Angelson. They've divorced less than two years later. In
2016, a mutual friend of Markle's and Prince Harry set them up on a blind date.
PRINCE HARRY: We met once and then twice back to ck in two dates in London. It was I think about three, maybe four weeks later that I managed
to persuade her to come and join me in Botswana.
CARROLL: The two bonded while camping in Botswana and after about a year and a half of courtship came the proposal.
MARKLE: It was so sweet and natural and very romantic.
HARRY: Of course.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it an instant yes from you?
MARKLE: Yes. As a matter of fact, I could barely let him finish proposing.
CARROLL: Markle has since become a household name, a fashion icon, style watchers closely eyeing every look. Not all has been well. English far-
right tabloids have attacked the 36-year-old because she's American, divorced and biracial.
Prince Harry and the palace have defended Markle and called for an end to the public abuse of her and her family. Markle has won the hearts of
millions including the heart of the one that matters most.
GORANI: Well, around 600 people will be attending the wedding in the castle behind me here. It's a pretty coveted ticket. One person who is
going is (inaudible), who knows Meghan Markle, Suhani Jalota. She is the founder of Myna Mahila Foundation, a charity that supports women in
Mumbai's slums. Meghan Markle is a supporter of the charity and here they are together in India and joins me live. Hello. You just came from India.
SUHANI JALOTA, INDIAN ENTREPRENEUR: Right, just now.
GORANI: So, tell us how excited you are.
JALOTA: Super excited. I think this is really a dream come true, something you could have never anticipated. It's really been an honor to
be a part of this. I think it's not just for me but also the other women from Myna Mahila Foundation who have been invited to attend the wedding as
GORANI: How many are there in total?
JALOTA: So, there are four of us in total. Two people who have never sat on a flight before. The first flight they will sit on is to London and to
the royal wedding.
GORANI: That is amazing, and you'll be inside the chapel with -- you and that five other young women who are with you?
JALOTA: They will be in the picnic area and I'll be inside the chapel and then I'll join me anytime.
GORANI: So, when did you receive the invitation?
JALOTA: Received the invitation about a month ago at least now and as soon as we received it, I think I first took it to my grandparents who were all
crying because for the entire family I think it was something, you know, for lifetime.
And having gotten early in life I think it really helps us with our credibility as an organization, which is very small, but yet we are working
on a very important topic of women empowerment and menstrual hygiene, which is something that we are now hopefully bringing to a more global platform.
GORANI: Well, certainly, I'd like to talk to you about that. How did your involvement with Meghan Markle start? I mean, how did she become
interested in your initiative?
JALOTA: Yes, we met in 2016 April at (inaudible) College Woman of the Year award ceremony and this was when they've given awards and each person was
(inaudible) with a mentor. She was a mentor for another girl, but that's how we kind of interacted and she found out about the work that we were
doing in India.
After that, she and I reconnected again. She came down in January of last year for two days to be with all of the women. See what we are doing on
the ground in person. She was having conversations with young girls to understand how menstrual hygiene affects their lives, going to school,
And then also with older women understanding why is it that they are having to be self-employed and earning money for themselves.
GORANI: And so, when you received the invitation, was it an envelope with -- what form did it take? I'm just curious how -- without expecting it, I
presume, this arrived, that made its way to you.
JALOTA: I think the first time was on call. This was when they were telling us, that, you know, you are one of the seven charities that's been
chosen to receive donations in lieu of wedding gifts for the royal wedding.
And then alongside that, you know, you are also invited along with a few people from Myna Mahila Foundation to attend. This time, we were all in
shock. We were like, wow, what is this really mean for us? This is huge and something that could really be a huge turning point for us.
GORANI: So, people are asked to donate. You are one of the charities that can receive donations in lieu of wedding gifts. How is that going to work?
Tell our viewers how that works.
JALOTA: Yes, so, essentially if anybody wants to support the royal wedding, whether it's in terms of giving gifts to them or showing support
in other ways, they can also donate money to one of the seven charities that they have chosen.
GORANI: And you are one of them.
JALOTA: And we're the only one that's chosen outside of the U.K. So, it's (inaudible) they've chosen these seven based on different causes and ours
is the women empowerment and menstrual hygiene related cause that they've chosen. So, that's kind of how - if anybody wants to give support, they
can give donations directly to us.
JALOTA: To Myna Mahila. Finally, what are you wearing? I have to ask you.
JALOTA: We are wearing an Indian sari, all of us. We've decided that we really needed to show something that was representing India because
(inaudible) we represent India as well.
GORANI: That's wonderful to hear. Suhani Jalota, you are the co-founder or the founder?
JALOTA: I'm the founder.
GORANI: The founder of Myna Mahila Foundation. Thanks for joining us.
JALOTA: Thank you so much.
GORANI: And have a great time on Saturday.
JALOTA: Thank you.
GORANI: Still to come tonight, U.S. President Trump spoke about North Korea a few moments ago as we turn our attention back to that story. Could
the so-called Libya model be applied there? North Korea certainly doesn't want that to happen. We will hear what Trump had to say after this.
GORANI: Welcome back. A senior member of Hamas says 50 of the people killed by Israeli forces during Monday's protests were members of its
[15:20:08] Israeli officials have seized on that comment saying it supports what they've claimed all along, their narrative that Hamas is the one that
orchestrated the violent demonstrations. It comes as Israel says its fighter jets struck several Hamas, quote, "terrorist targets" Wednesday in
Many Palestinians are turning their anger toward President Trump insisting he and other world leaders have turned their backs on the people of Gaza.
Our Ben Wedeman reports from inside Gaza City.
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The finishing touches go up on Gaza's latest mural. Portraying the struggle
against today's perceived villains. Since Trump declared he was moving the embassy to Jerusalem, everything turned upside down, says this artist.
Since March, Israeli troops have killed more than 100 Palestinian protesters, journalists and medical staff among those killed and injured
along the fence that separates Gaza rom Israel.
Unlike in the past, the U.S. hasn't issued the usual calls for Israel to exercise restraint. While Arab leaders have put out mild denunciations,
going through the motions of indignation.
Shoppers in Gaza City's main market on the eve of Ramadan, suspect the Arab regimes have turned their backs. They have agreed with Trump under the
table, says (inaudible). Their condemnations are just for show.
For years, it's been difficult for Palestinians to leave Gaza and for outsiders to enter. Already isolated it now feels abandoned by Arab
leaders who once paid lip service to the Palestinian cause.
It's as if they have never heard of a place called Gaza says Selma (ph). They condemn what's going on, but nothing comes of it. Says bookstore
owner, Salema Rayes (ph), I feel the Palestinian people are alone. No one supports us as they did in the past.
On a visit to Chile in the days leading up to Monday's bloodshed, even Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas didn't let the storm gathering back
home, they (inaudible). The strong men and the weaker (inaudible) aren't flexing their muscles for Gaza.
(Inaudible) Mahir, a worker at the electricity company, there is Sisi, Mohammad bin-Salman, they are all the same, he says, watching as Gaza goes
by. Ben Wedeman, CNN, Gaza City.
GORANI: President Trump says he is still planning for that summit with North Korea even though Pyongyang has thrown it into doubt. Mr. Trump and
Kim Jong-un are supposed to meet June 12th in Singapore.
But among other things, North Korea is taking issue with comments by the new U.S. national security adviser, John Bolton, likening that country to
Libya, which gave up its nuclear arms program and, of course, that's something North Korea is not quite happy with.
We all know how Moammar Gadhafi ended. Now listen to what President Trump said about that idea from his national security adviser just moments ago.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The Libyan model was a much different model. We decimated that country. We never said to
Gadhafi, we're going to give you protection, we're going to give you military strength, we're going to give you all of these things.
We went in and decimated him, and we did the same thing with Iraq, but the model if you look at that model with Gadhafi, that was a total decimation.
We went in there to beat him. Now that model would take place if we don't make a deal most likely.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: All right. For more, let's bring in Stephen Collinson from Washington and it's interesting what the president is saying because this
deal with Libya was done in 2003, 2004. The decimation he's talking about is when western powers essentially turned against him and aided the rebels.
And from the North Korean perspective, if you say you are embracing the Libyan model, that means that any promise you make to the leader in place
won't hold if there's any opposition to him down the line.
STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Right, Hala. It's very interesting. Two days ago, the North Koreans threw the summit into doubt
with a pair of statements, one of which directly hit out at John Bolton, who is on U.S. TV at the weekend saying the Libya model was the model that
the administration would follow in the summit with Kim Jong-un.
Thereby, you know, trying to force him to hand over all of his nuclear weapons without getting any immediate concessions. Well, now the president
is coming out in this very interesting appearance in the oval office and basically saying that Bolton was wrong. That is not the model that he
intends to follow when he sits down with Kim Jong-un in Singapore on June 12th.
[15:25:11] So, it almost seems that the president is negotiating directly with Mr. Kim via television. Very, very interesting. And I think what it
does show that the president really is very committed to getting this summit on, to making sure it's still takes place and he seems to be making
a concession there right on live tv to meet some of the concerns of the North Koreans.
GORANI: Well, he certainly wouldn't want this summit that he essentially touted as proof that he is the master, you know, deal maker to fall through
at this point. I mean, this wouldn't be -- this wouldn't be great for him.
COLLINSON: No. Certainly. He has a lot of political sort of -- politically at stake with the summit. The administration is using it not
only as an argument that, you know, it's time to wrap up the special counsel investigation, which is a year old today because the president has
got far too many bigger things to worry about.
But Republicans are also trying sell a peace and prosperity campaign going into the midterm elections. If the summit doesn't take place, that takes
that all away. What's also very interesting in that oval office appearance a few moments ago, the president said that he was prepared to offer Kim
Jong-un very strong protections.
He is talking about security guarantees that would perhaps help Kim to -- sort of convince himself and his North Korean generals that it would be
feasible for him to hand over the nuclear program. So, really, very interesting open sort of source negotiating going on by the president
GORANI: All right. We'll wait to see how North Korea reacts. They issue statements sometimes completely unexpectedly through their state news
agency. So, we will see if we get one of those in the coming hours. Thanks very much, Stephen Collinson.
Still to come tonight, we return to events here in Windsor where the town is a buzz with excitement. I can confirm. I saw it with my own eyes ahead
of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding in less than 48 hours. We'll be right back.
GORANI: Here in Windsor, England, where in less than 48 hours, Prince Harry will marry American actress, Meghan Markle, it's where we are coming
to you from this evening.
[15:30:04] The couple arrived earlier today in Windsor along with other members of the royal family. These occasions are, of course, all about
pomp and ceremony and a few ago, members of the military rehearsed their procession for the wedding of the year.
Now, all of this can be quite expensive, but I'm like a lot of young couples, price is no object for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Samuel
Burke works out the numbers.
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Everyone knows weddings are pricey. Meghan Markle's upcoming wedding to Prince
Harry in the U.K. will take things to the next level. First, the dress, it's still a royal secret, but a leading contender is Ralph & Russo, the
high-end British brand behind the dress Markle wore in her official engagement photos, at a reported $75,000 price tag. Estimates put a
wedding dress from this designer at around $340,000 and there's a good chance she may wear a second dress to the evening reception.
Food and drinks don't come cheap when you're hosting 600 guests for and another 200 for dinner. It's estimated the queen, who is hosting the
afternoon reception will spend $135 per person for her 600 guests for a total of $81,500. The evening reception hosted by Prince Charles to cost
around $340 per head for 200 guests, adding another $68,000 of cost. London pastry chef, Claire Ptak has been chosen to supply a lemon elder
flower cake for the big day, while the bakery decline to comment on their prices, it's not unusual for elaborate wedding cakes of this type to cost
thousands of dollars
Flowers are often a budget busting expense. London florist, Philippa Craddock is decorating the chapel for the ceremony. Her plans to use white
garden roses and peonies. Many of the plants will be sourced from royally owned gardens, according to the palace. One estimate predicts floral work
for an event of this scale could cost at the very least nearly $70,000. The great part about being a royal is you already have great venues. And
the families which means there shouldn't be any rental fees. The ceremony and the first reception will be on the grounds of Windsor castle. The
evening party will be held at the estate vast country home, Frogmore House.
Even so staff and logistics considerations for the three different events could add significant cost. Added altogether and seasoned wedding planners
estimate the wedding could have a grand total of around $1.5 million.
GORANI: Well, Samuel Burke joins me now. So, who's going to pay for all of this?
BURKE: Well, it's interesting, because everybody keeps on saying that the royal family is going to be the one who foots the bill, Hala. And that is
true, except for the most expensive part of the wedding.
GORANI: Which is?
BURKE: The security cost. That's going to be a reported $8 million. And that's going to fall on the British taxpayer. And you and I don't have
British accents, but we pay our taxes and full here in United Kingdom. So just like the queen, you and I, will be paying for the wedding.
GORANI: Right. And so -- but the rest Of course, you don't have to -- you don't have to rent a wedding hall. You have a castle and a chapel.
BURKE: That thing right behind you would be very expensive if you were renting it. When the queen gives it to you, ain't that bad.
GORANI: But everything else that is then paid for by the royal family?
BURKEL: Exactly, by the royal family. So the actual ceremony from start to finish, that is all them. It's all the other stuff that you've bene
reporting on that's going around here. Basically, it's officers' overtime, that $8 million. We're expecting 100,000 people to descend upon Windsor.
You got to have a lot of officers working before the clock, after the clock, that's where the real money is going.
GORANI: And of course, this generates revenue for Windsor and for England. I mean, everywhere you look in Windsor, especially you can buy Harry and
Meghan mugs and masks and plates and mouse pads and whatnot.
BURKE: Yes. If I were -- if I could invest in souvenir shops right now, I would definitely be there and in a Harry and Meghan lookalikes. Those
impersonators are making a lot of money. And you have to see --
GORANI: They don't all look like them.
BURKE: Close enough from a distance.
GORANI: Close enough that you know who they impersonate --
BURKE: (INAUDIBLE) people thought they had come out of the palace and all that has disagreed everybody, but it was just -- great income for one week,
after that, they might have to look for a new career.
GORANI: Yes. Well, I was going to -- well, you never know, because they'll be in the media spotlight for many months, years to come. I guess
not as much as the day before the wedding.
All right. Well, Samuel Burke, thanks very much for the numbers behind this big romantic event that certainly is capturing the world's
imagination. Thank you, Samuel Burke.
[15:35:01] This costly union might be one of the biggest media events of the year. But the press will have far less access than at previous royal
weddings. The British monarchy and Prince Harry and William, in particular, have made repeated efforts to keep the press at bay. Anna
Stewart explains why.
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was the most watched event in television history. More than 700 million people tuned in to the wedding
of Prince Charles and Lady Diana. They came for the pomp, the circumstance, and of course, the dress.
STIG ABELL, JOURNALIST: In many ways she was a reality TV star before reality TV existed. She was a Twitter star before Twitter existed. She was
just this focus of attention, not just for Britain but the whole world.
STEWART: Diana's arrival on the world stage ushered in a golden age for Britain's tabloid newspapers and the rise of paparazzi tactics that many
believed caused her death.
Photographers were chasing her in Paris the night she was killed in a car crash.
ABELL: It was the fact that photographs of her were so valuable that she was dead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the bride.
STEWART: Arthur Edwards has spent more than four decades photographing the royal family for The Sun newspaper.
His photos of Diana pushed The Sun's circulation to record highs.
ARTHUR EDWARDS, PHOTOGRAPHER: The royals will say this is private. This is intrusion, but it is fact. It's a news story. If you get a prince of
this country, a prince of the realm seeing a girl, she could be his wife.
STEWART: Today, the rules have changes for those who cover the royal family.
EDWARDS: You cannot knock a doorknocker more than once if it's on a story. You cannot harass people. You cannot follow people in cars. You can't do
any of that.
STEWART: And there are sharp (INAUDIBLE) from Diana's sons Princes William and Harry who still blame the press in part for the death of their mother.
VICTORIA ARBITER, CNN ROYAL CONTRIBUTOR: What you see today is a very guarded royal family. William and Harry have both been very clear in terms
of what is acceptable when reporting on their private life. And yet the press always takes it a step further.
STEWART: In 2016, Harry issued an unprecedented statement condemning the press when he felt the initial reporting of his and Meghan's relationship
crossed the line.
ARBITER: They've drawn a line in the sand. They've said, OK, this is enough. Back off or we'll restrict all kinds of access.
STEWART: Newspaper reporters and photographers have complained about the limited space they're being offered at the actual wedding ceremony itself.
They say they had much better access at the wedding of William and Kate and that was six years ago. Since then the royal family has grown a huge
social media presence.
ABELL: Why would you want your message to be mediated by people who are scurrilously looking for a story if you didn't have to? And I suspect
that's what they think now.
On Monday Harry and Meghan quickly responded to a scandal surrounding Meghan's father. The couple issued a statement asking for quote,
"understanding and respect." But on Tuesday morning, the story was front and center splashed across page one.
Anna Stewart, CNN, Windsor.
GORANI: Well, just in the last few days, Meghan Markle has experienced the darker side of the tabloid press. Something she has in common with
Princess Diana. But Diana was already a member of the British aristocracy when she married a royal. By contrast, Meghan is American, middle class,
mixed race. Earlier at CNN, hosted a conversation about some of the challenges Meghan Markle, specifically might face marrying into one of the
world's most famous and exclusively until now, white families.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I think her being biracial and entering this family, I think about some of the moments I have experienced as a woman of
color where you are in need that are dominantly white. And some of the statements that are made where people I guess forget you're different and
speak to some of those stereotypes and kind of like this -- ugly undertones and forgetting that you are other. And that challenge you always have of
do I speak up? Do I challenge it? And I know every woman -- I know you just go on you probably experience that in various spaces. And I wonder
how Meghan is going to cope with that, because this has been a very insular family and which is kind of like -- as we've seen in public spaces, some
dubious troubling attitudes. How does Meghan deal with that in the personal space? I wonder about that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it's important to say also because Meghan's been referred to as black and on various -- Meghan isn't a black woman.
Meghan is mixed heritage. And there is a level of privilege which just comes with having lighter skin. My experience as a mixed heritage woman is
the not the same as some of my friends who are fully black. It is not the same. Particularly they had darker skin. And to not to acknowledge that
is to ignore -- and something an ideology which is so unhelpful to all of us which has been passed down, so that is there. But she is a mixed
heritage woman who, from my experience working with her. It's very comfortable about embracing her black side. And she is willing and
courageous in using her platform to speak her truth.
[15:40:17] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's comfortable doing that. Is the black community comfortable with having her on board?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's what I wanted to add to and Isha and Jessica and I were speaking about this. You come here as an African-American and
you are -- you are taught -- she's university educated and very sophisticated that there is an African diaspora. There is a panoply, there
is a world. But when you come here and you live here, you find out that you're an American. In fact, the first time I was ever called an American
was in the United Kingdom and I was quite shocked, because I heard it and I thought, are we talking about me? And, yes, with all the good, the bad and
GORANI: Well, still to come, how to dress a royal bride? We take a closer look at what Meghan might be wearing on her wedding day.
GORANI: Well, for many what Meghan Markle wears when she weds Prince Harry on Saturday is the most important detail of all and certainly for British
bridal designer and stylist, Caroline Castigliano who joins me now, that is going to be -- that reveal is going to be certainly what you're most
CAROLINE CASTIGLIANO, BRIDAL DESIGNER AND STYLIST: Absolutely.
GORANI: So, what do you think she's going to wear? What would suit her best in your opinion?
CASTIGLIANO: Well, I think lot of things will be going to suit her. She's a beautiful girl. She's got a fabulous figure, so suit isn't really what
comes into it. I think your dress really is meant to show your personality and your style. My view is she'll have two dresses. I'm certain the dress
in the day will be really more conventional, classic. Her nod to the royal family.
GORANI: We're seeing one sketch. But this is what you first thought of for her, but then you changed your mind.
CASTIGLIANO: This definitely won't happen. I just did lots of sketches at the beginning when they first got engaged. This was a full dress and sweet
GORANI: I think that's beautiful, actually.
CASTIGLIANO: Yes. I think this would suit her. It's very, very clean and I think clean really suits her. She has quite classic lines in that way.
In her styling. But I moved on from this. And I truly believe in actual fact. I am certain she's going to wear a fizzy dress. I think the dress
itself, it won't be fishtail. It will be an actual fitted.
GORANI: Really? Is that surprising though for a big royal wedding? It's not a princess kind of dress. The fitted look.
[15:45:01] CASTIGLIANO: No. But I think that she will do something that's completely different to Kate, completely different to all the past royals.
I don't think we had a fitted dress before. And then I think she'll have - -
GORANI: Something similar to this?
CASTIGLIANO: It's fitted, yes. Absolutely. That would look great on her too. I would then have a train coming from the side, where you clip them
to the side so it creates this wonderful full affect and then goes around and she'll have a really big train at the back. So the feeling as she
walks forward is that you see her figure, because she has a fitted dress on. But the train, obviously frames her. So she gets the grandness and
the fullness and that power that she'll need as she walks into St. George's Chapel.
GORANI: Because you need the train for such an occasion. You can't just walk down the aisle in a fitted dress -- and what about the -- maybe
perhaps not. This is more of an a line. More classic.
CASTIGLIANO: But a sleeve. She has a sleeve on. And I think there's no doubt that for the daytime, Meghan will have a sleeve. Still have sleeve.
She would never have a back open. I'm sure her back would be completely covered.
GORANI: You still need to be somewhat conservative.
CASTIGLIANO: Well, that's the thing. I think that the daytime dress will be conservative and her nod to the royal family, the queen, the British
people. I think she'll wear British. But then I think maybe for the party in the evening, then she'll completely change and then out will come Meghan
as she sees herself. I think then it will be in a sleeveless dress.
GORANI: but those are the more a line, sort of more classic --
CASTIGLIANO: Yes. That's more of sort of Burgan dress. Interesting, yes. These aren't dresses that I would design necessarily. For Meghan, there
you see sort of a fitted style. But I think she would have a big train.
GORANI: And your better designer?
CASTIGLIANO: Stella McCartney.
GORANI: Oh, really? Interesting. Ralph & Russo is what I'm hearing most often, because she wore one of his designs for the engagement photo.
CASTIGLIANO: Yes, where there are a couple of bottom, yes, she did. And she looked fabulous and then very, very talented people. I think they're
great. But I think that it doesn't really sort of key really with everything that they stand for and she stands for with all the things she
believes in to turn up in 150,000 pound dress. So I sort of feel surprised. Also, they've done a huge amount of press, which is very
unusual if you're going to be doing a royal wedding. Normally it would be completely quiet. I think it'll be Stella. British, into all --
GORANI: It would have to be British regardless, it would have to be British, right?
CASTIGLIANO: I believe the daytime dress, not necessarily the evening. I hope in the evening she's got an American designer on.
GORANI: And lastly, just to remind ourselves of past iconic wedding dress as of course, you have the Princess Diana one which was very much of her
time, which today seems out of place completely.
GORANI: But I found lovely to Kate dress at the time. And she obviously - - that's Diana.
CASTIGLIANO: Look at those great big (INAUDIBLE)
GORANI: And she was so young at the time. And then you have Kate who is wearing this lovely, which I loved at the time, laced traditional dress.
But it has some eternity to it.
CASTIGLIANO: Kate's dress in every way said everything about the fact he is going to be our future queen. Her position, it was the perfect dress.
It could never be criticized no matter what style you have in your mind.
GORANI: You look in 30, 40 years and it will still be --
CASTIGLIANO: Traditional dress.
GORANI: Like a Grace Kelly dress where it will never go out of style.
CASTIGLIANO: Exactly. And everywhere (INAUDIBLE) great bride.
GORANI: Caroline Castigliano, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate it. We'll see if it's Stella McCartney, if you're right.
More to come. The stunning chapel is where the world's eyes will be firmly on when Prince Harry and Meghan Markle say their I dos, and CNN got access
to give you a look around inside. Stay with us.
[15:50:34] GORANI: This week, we've heard a lot about Meghan Markle's walk down the aisle and more specifically who will walk her down the aisle. But
the chapel itself has a fascinating story. Nick Glass explains.
NICK GLASS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The long walk of Windsor so called because it's two and a half miles long. The one end, the entrance for visiting
heads of state. The castle has stood here on a chalky ridge for well over 900 years.
St. George's Chapel is a relatively new addition, just 500 years old crafted from cultural stone pulled the Thames in great barges in the 15th
century. Along its route a parade of heraldic beasts, originally commissioned by Henry VIII.
Meghan Markle has promised a long walk to the altar, 250 feet or so down an aisle of checkered marble. The chapel is simply one of the most beautiful
and glorious of English religious spaces. An example of so-called Gothic perpendicular, a spectacular fan-vaulted roof, choir stalls emblazoned with
banners of the knights of the Garter a reminder of its origins in the medieval age of chivalry.
A chapel then that is both architecturally thrilling and yet intimate and has been this way for half a millennium.
Ten kings no less are buried here, on most days tourists mill around the aisle, and perhaps didn't always notice the black marble slab plumbed in
the center. Henry VIII and Charles I are buried just a few feet below. Meghan Markle will walk over their joint grave although she'll tread
softly. On wedding days, the aisle is carpeted.
Elbow your way a little further on and somewhere in a special royal vault just below the altar, here lies George III. That's the George, in case you
had forgotten, who lost the American colonies.
We are told that the chapel is a special place for Harry and Meghan. He was christened here 33 years ago, and troll through the Windsor archive and
there he is, the younger son, the unmistakable royal redhead -- a great blusher in his time, a great (INAUDIBLE) faces. Naturally he was there
when his father's second marriage was blessed. Harry stealing a glance was then 20.
A few weeks after Harry and Meghan's wedding, the chapel will be the setting for the annual Garter Service, the Knights of the Garter process
down the hill in Tudor bonnets, ostrich feathers and velvet capes.
Harry is expected to join their ranks in the near future just like his brother, father and grandmother. His banner will probably hang alongside
his brother's inside.
On the great day after marriage vows are exchanged, Harry and Meghan will walk back down the aisle, back over Henry VIII and Charles I as man and
wife, and will emerge out onto the steps below the great west window. And so will have added their own joyous little bit of wedding history to a
sublime medieval English chapel.
Nick Glass, CNN, in Windsor.
GORANI: Well, that was the gravitas of the day. Now, for the fun, Britain's royal wedding means all kinds of strange products are getting the
regal treatment. Jeanne Moos reports on marriage mania.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: With Harry and Meghan about to say I do, some are saying, I can't take it. Their faces are plastered on
everything from creepy party masks to Pez dispensers to a Harry air freshener, mango scented. There have been costume contests.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everybody is going to lock in with us.
MOOS: And look-a-like contests. The winners of the easy jet competition got free flights for a year and TV anchors seem fascinated with wearing
that half a hat. The fascinator.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) really wat7ch the movie -- oh, groovy.
MOOS: It's going to my head. He bury on New York's 57th Street is seeing a boom, thanks to the royals.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How much is this?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sixty-two.
[15:55:01] MOOS: And if you don't wear hats, how about a personalized swimsuit grace with Harry and Meghan? Hope the beard doesn't scratch.
Naturally, the wedding brings out warmth and love.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because I've figured media vulture with this wedding than you. Is there, Ms. Markle?
MOOS: Ms. Markle, the bride's half-sister --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're doing a book called, the diary of princess pushy sister. You've been trashing her for two years you little vulture.
MOOS: They lose with royal trivia, we've learned the names of horses that will pull the royal carriage, Storm and Tyrone, father and son and the
names of guests.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Elton John has been invited and so are members of the Spice Girls.
MOOS: But maybe you haven't heard the name crown jewel condoms promising a royal union of pleasure. Featuring patriotic music when you open the box.
You can buy a life-size royal cutout or a bang this drum. They will soon be royal part. Markle Sparkle marijuana, marketed by a cannabis nephew of
Meghan's. And how about a bowl of cereal while watching the nuptials Harry and Meghan's wedding rings breakfast cereal. Slip one of those on her
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
GORANI: A lot more products I've seen right here in Windsor in anticipation of the big day. We continue our coverage. I'm Hala Gorani.
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