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Border Agent Stops U.S. Citizens for Speaking Spanish; Official Pushes Back on Trump's Cell Phone Use Saying It's Secure; Critics: Serena Williams Being Punished for Having Baby; Trump Says North Korea Summit May Not Happen in June. Aired 2:30-3p ET

Aired May 22, 2018 - 14:30   ET

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[14:30:00] UNIDENTIFIED BORDER PATROL AGENT: Just name, date of birth -

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because of our profile, right?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED BORDER PATROL AGENT: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Racial profile.

UNIDENTIFIED BORDER PATROL AGENT: It has nothing to do with that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED BORDER PATROL AGENT: It has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Spanish in the store.

UNIDENTIFIED BORDER PATROL AGENT: -- in a state where it's predominantly English.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

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BALDWIN: The woman's voice you hear, she's from El Paso, Texas. Her friend is from California. She wants the ACLU to investigate. CNN reached out to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection for a response, and they sent this statement, quote, "They have the authority to question individuals, make arrests, and take and consider evidence."

So what's Ana Navarro thinking, our CNN political commentator?

When you saw this, what did you think? ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I thought, I pity the fool who goes into a racist rant or who detains people for speaking Spanish if they ever come to the 305 in Miami where I am. God forbid they come to Hialeah, they'll never get out or have a heart attack before they do. Unless you're speaking native Cherokee, I don't know why it would raise suspicion if you're speaking other languages. We're a land of immigrants. You can hear Spanish, Russian, Yiddish, I mean, you name it, you hear it in the United States. It is part of what makes us a very wealthy country, what enriches our social fiber. Diversity makes us stronger, not weaker. And I wonder to myself, you know, is this happening more now because of all the rhetoric we've been subject to the last two years or is it that people don't leave home without their iPhone and can take videos when they want to. Since when did waiting while black or speaking Spanish become the type of evidence that gets you detained and arrested? It feels wrong. It feels un-American.

BALDWIN: The woman's daughter actually saw the video and she questioned whether or not she should be speaking Spanish. This is what the woman told her.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's like we can't speak Spanish anymore? So I feel very sad. When I decide I'm going to -- you know, to bring this to somebody else for help, the ACLU, because I told her, you need to be proud. You need to be proud because you speak Spanish and you speak English. You are very smart. You speak two languages. And you need to be proud to speak Spanish. How can you explain to a 7-year- old this?

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BALDWIN: What would you tell her 7-year-old?

NAVARRO: Mamita -- (SPEAWKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE). Be proud of who you are, be proud of your roots, be proud of your heritage. I would tell her it's not her problem. It's the problem of the people who cannot tolerate difference. We can't change who we are because somebody, you know, who is an ignorant person, an intolerant person, and threatened by people who look different or sound different or are different wants us to go away. No, that's not America. That's not what America is. And whether people like it or not, whether elected leader like it or not, whether the Border Patrol likes it or not, this is America, and this is as much our country as it is anybody else's country. This is a country of immigrants. And no matter how much some people try, you can't erase history. You can't erase what holds America together.

BALDWIN: Ana Navarro, thank you.

NAVARRO: Thank you. Gracias.

[14:34:20] BALDWIN: Thank you.

Coming up next, how security is President Trump's personal cell phone line? Trump now being accused of something he has repeatedly criticism Hillary Clinton of, being careless with technology and possibly putting himself at risk to hackers? We'll get you that information next.

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BALDWIN: There's new reporting today that indicates President Trump is using a White House-issued cell phone that's not equipped with sophisticated security features, which could potentially expose him to hacking or even surveillance. The White House totally disputes the reporting. And an official tells CNN they're confident the security protocols are in place. Officials say he uses at least two iPhone, one for making calls, and the other has a Twitter app and a handful of news sites.

Let's talk to Nate Jones about this. He's a former director of counterterrorism on the National Security Council under President Obama, and the founder of Culper Partners, a consulting firm.

Nate, welcome to you.

On the phone issue, the same sources say that the aides have urged the president to swap out the phone you use for Twitter on a monthly basis. He said it's too inconvenient. It was a struggle for President Obama as well. What does it take to keep a president's cell phone secure?

NATE JONES, FOUNDER, CULPER PARTNERS & FORMER DIRECTOR OF COUNTERTERRORISM, NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL: I mean, I think number one, you as the president, you have to listen to the experts who are telling you how to address the situation. The reality is that there's no foolproof measure of security that can prevent our adversaries of getting in. We know countries spy on each other. We know our foreign adversaries are persistently trying to get information about our capabilities, plans or intentions to gain strategical or tactical advantage over the United States. There's no bigger target than the president of the United States. That's particularly true of this president, where he has shown a tendency to stray from the advice of his advisers. And I think more and more people are getting the impress that, if you want to know what the U.S. is planning to do, the only way you can figure that out is by going straight to the top.

BALDWIN: How --

JONES: So he's got a target on his back.

[14:40:34] BALDWIN: Can you know for sure a president's cell phone is secure? Is it possible it could be compromised and they don't know it?

JONES: Absolutely. Yes.

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BALDWIN: Wow. Go ahead, go ahead.

JONES: No, I was going to say, I think it can. We have very sophisticated security measures. It's both a combination of technical and practical things, right? President Obama talked regularly about not being able to take his cell phone into the situation room. Is that an inconvenience? To some degree, yes. But that's a reality of having these kinds of responsibilities. And I think there's no technical way to guarantee you've not been compromised. You can put all the security measures you want, and the U.S. government is pretty good at doing that, but that's one of the reasons that you saw what happened in the last White House is President Obama would regularly have his device switched out, his device changed, and accesses changed, and he had strict protocols on his device and there are a variety of ways you can try to protect yourself. Nothing's fool proof but when you're in the position that the president is in of having not just classified information but regularly having conversations with people over the device, electronically or with the device in your pocket, or you know that an adversary can get in at any time, and even being compromised for ten minutes or two days --

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BALDWIN: You can't take that chance.

JONES: -- later and do something about it. You can't take that chance. Exactly.

BALDWIN: You can't take that chance, inconvenient or not.

Nate, Nate Jones, thank you for that.

JONES: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up, the White House press briefing about to begin as President Trump says China is behind the sudden shift in tone from North Korea, calling President Xi a world-class poker player. More on that ahead.

Also, next, she was the number-one-ranked tennis player when she stopped competing to give birth to her daughter. And now Serena Williams makes her professional return. Why some say she's being punished for having a baby.

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[14:47:20] BALDWIN: Serena Williams facing a rough return to her first major since the birth to her daughter. The French Open just announced the three-time winner of the event will not be seeded this time around. Organizers base their decision on current WTA ranking. It means the 23-time grand-slam champion now faces a risky battle because there's a higher chance she'll have to play some of the best players in those early rounds. The move is being panned by a bunch of critics. "USA Today" sports columnist, Nancy Armour, writing, "Serena Williams is being punished for having a baby. That's the only way to see the decision not to give her a seed for the French Open, her first major tournament since giving birth to her daughter, Olympia, in September."

Rennae Stubbs is with me. She's a former Wimbledon and U.S. Open champion, and she's now an analyst with ESPN.

Pleasure to have you on, first and foremost.

RENNAE STUBBS, SPORTS ANALYST, ESPN & FORMER WIMBLEDON & U.S. OPEN CHAMPION: Thanks for having me.

BALDWIN: Secondly, do you think this is fair?

STUBBS: Look, I disagree with Nancy. The only reason is because the French Open has never changed their seeding throughout the entire existence of the French Open. Wimbledon does because of the grass and some players are much better on grass than others so they've really taken their opportunity to change the seedings. The French Open has never done that. Prior to 2005, folks, the WTA had the ability to be able to change seeds, put Monica Seles.

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BALDWIN: But rules matter. But taking the rules aside, the fact that she almost died giving birth, the pulmonary embolism, the blood clots and now you have all these people coming forward for saying she's being punished for having a child. Did you thin do you think that's fair?

STUBBS: Victoria Azarenka (ph) is coming back from a baby, she's not given preference treatment. Lindsay Davenport has come back and not given preference treatment. Do I think she should have been seed? Yes. I think she should have been seed in the second part of the 16 seeds. I think she should have been seed lower because it's really difficult now for the top players. She could play Venus first round. She could play Halep (ph) first round. So as far as that is concerned, I think she should have been seeded somewhere.

The second of that is, I've spoken to lot of players in the last few hours about --

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BALDWIN: What did they say?

STUBBS: Some players say she should have been seeded, some said not. So there's a discrepancy even among the tour players about what she should have been given.

BALDWIN: All this noise out there and I'm just wondering, rip through the noise, do you think Serena is thinking, you know, seed me at 453, like I got this, this is ridiculous that everyone is talking about this or what?

[14:50:10] STUBBS: I can guarantee you that you will not hear a word from Serena Williams until after her first match. She won't talk about this. I don't think she cares about it. I think it would have been nice for her to have a seed, she would have like to have had a seed, just for the fact she wouldn't have had to play the top seeds potentially in the first round. And the French Open took into consideration that Serena hasn't played since late March in Miami. She played at Indian Wells, she lost first round to a very good player, won the tournament the week before. So her results haven't been there on the way back. She knew she came back too early. Is she fit enough now? Yes, because she's into the French Open.

Bottom line, Brooke, throw the seeds in the air, throw the players in the air, put them in a bucket because that's what they do and pull them out and every seed is praying they don't play her first round. I don't think Serena cares. I think she wants to win the tournament no heart who is in her way.

BALDWIN: Which is what matters the most.

STUBBS: It will be interesting to see what Wimbledon does, though.

BALDWIN: We'll be watching. Maybe we'll have you back.

Rennae Stubbs, thank you so much. A pleasure to have you on. Thank you.

Coming up next, dangerous volcanic eruptions now threatening a power plant in Hawaii. A scientist joins me live to discuss what to expect as ash clouds reach 8,000 feet. Lava cam right there.

And back to our breaking news, President Trump now saying his summit with North Korea next month may not happen, for sure, after all. And what's the story behind this challenge coin featuring Trump and Kim Jong-Un? We're back in just a moment.

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[14:56:14] BALDWIN: Molten lava is pouring in the Pacific Ocean at at least to locations. This was the scene from earlier this morning. Ash clouds bubbling from this latest eruption that climbed to 8,000 feet. Now the lava has reached a geothermal power plant. Officials are fast-tracking plans to prevent any additional release of these toxic fumes, but another lava flow is quickly approaching the site.

With me now Marc-Antoine Longpre, assistant professor of volcanology at Queens University.

A pleasure to have you on.

MARC-ANTOINE LONGPRE, ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF VOLCANOLOGY, QUEENS UNIVERSITY: Happy to be here.

BALDWIN: People are glued to this volcano, this lava cam.

LONGPRE: That's right.

BALDWIN: We were talking in commercial break. You said the thing that really blows your mind the most is that it's now seeping, the fissures.

LONGPRE: It was erupting from the same place all this time, a look at it closer to the summit of the volcano. Now the magma is moving toward the so and that fissure. That produces the lava that we see. BALDWIN: And in doing so, it's the hydrochloric acid and these glass particles that are going along with it.

LONGPRE: Yes. That's right. When really hot lava interacts with cold sea water, it vaporizes the cold sea water, which contains salt, and that creates hydrochloric acid that goes with the steam, and there's little particles of lava that form this glass that also goes with the haze.

BALDWIN: Quickly, how long does this last?

LONGPRE: That's a good question. This is a new phase of the same eruption that's been going on for more than 30 years. But it's hard to predict exactly how long this new phase will last.

BALDWIN: Professor Marc-Antoine Longpre, on Volcanology, thank you so much.

LONGPRE: Thank you. Thank you for having me.

BALDWIN: We'll keep a close eye on that. I appreciate it.

Let's continue on and get you to Washington and top of the hour. I'm Brooke Baldwin. You're watching CNN.

We're all waiting for this White House briefing to begin any moment now. We're expecting a lot of follow-up questions after President Trump unloaded all kinds of headlines earlier today during this photo- op with South Korean President Moon Jae-in. Topping them all, the fact that you had President Trump suggesting the summit between the U.S. and North Korea may not happen as scheduled. It's set for next month in Singapore, and Trump's pullback on the summit. Some think President Moon is making a critical pitch to stay on course. Some U.S. officials believe Moon is the one who oversold how willing North Korea is to get negotiate away its nuclear program. The doubt was sowed after North Korea suddenly threatened to withdraw from talks last week.

President Trump casting suspicion right on China for this North Korea about face.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, but I think that President Xi is a world-class poker player. And I'd probably maybe doing the same thing he would do. But I will say this, there was a somewhat different attitude after that meeting. I'm a little surprised. Maybe nothing happened. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm saying maybe nothing happened and maybe it did. But there was a different attitude by the North Korean folks when -- after that meeting. So I don't think it was a great meeting. Nobody knew about the meeting. And all of a sudden, it was reported that he was in China a second time. The first time everybody knew about. The second time was like a surprise. And I think things changed after that meeting.

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