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Trump Hunkers Down In Camp David As North Korea Summit Looms; Japan: Don't Reward North Korea For Simply Agreeing To Meet; Kim Jong- Un Letter To Trump "Carefully Examined" For Toxins; Gun Violence Has Now Fallen For 15 Straight Months; DHS: Cellphone Surveillance Detected Near White House; Driver Accused Of Fatally Shooting Passenger On Highway. Aired 6-7a ET

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I think it's going to be very successful. They're incredible people. I think it's going to be a great success. We will see you on June 12th.

SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MAJORITY LEADER: I think for these situations to work, you have to not want the deal too much. You could get snookered.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're no longer seeking speedy denuclearization. We are now seeking a "get to know each other" session. That's alarming in and of itself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Despite China's statements to the contrary, the placement of weapons systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sources say the White House is working on a possible summit between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.


PRESIDENT TRUMP: She's doing great right there. She's doing great. She's just looking at her right there.


CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, and welcome to your weekend here. President Trump is waking up in Camp David this morning, likely planning for the restarted summit with North Korea.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: South Korea is already calling this the meeting of the century by the U.S. allies -- century, but U.S. allies are not so optimistic. Take Japan warning against history repeating itself. They said overnight, "Do not just reward North Korea for agreeing to show up at a summit." We're live in Singapore where that meeting is now just ten days away. We're also at the White House where the president met for more than an hour with -- right there in the oval office with Kim Jong-un's top lieutenant. We start there with Ryan Nobles -- Brian.

RYAN NOBLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Victor, good morning. And, if there's one thing we learned yesterday that there may be many voices and opinions coming out of this White House, but there is only one that matters and that's Donald Trump's.

Despite the fact that there were many in his administration, even some prominent Republican members of Congress that cautioned the president against pushing ahead with this summit on June 12th, especially after it was the president, who initially canceled the summit, the president instead forged ahead saying that he wanted to get it done and that he was going to make it happen.

So, after coming out of that meeting with one of the top lieutenants to Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, the president surprised everyone by announcing that June 12th summit is back on.

And the way that the president was able to pull this off is by dialing back expectations in a big way. Initially, the summit was designed to begin talks of denuclearization on the Korean Peninsula perhaps even calling for an end to the Korean war.

But now President Trump and his associates describing it a bit more as a "get to know you" meeting. An opportunity for the two leaders to get together and talk about their common goals and then set up a process for major talks to begin after.

So, instead of this being kind of the final meeting, this is instead going to be the beginning. Now, today the president is at Camp David. He is there with members of his family, his son, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump is there, as well.

He's said to be discussing plans for the summit, preparing for it, deciding exactly what he's going to say to Kim Jong-un when he goes into that summit, which is now just a little more than a week away. Not joining him at Camp David, though, is his wife, Melania Trump.

She remains here at the White House as she continues to recover from a procedure that she had done not too long ago. Of course, the big question that many have this morning is, how exactly will the president pull this off and be able to declare it a success, especially after he was the one that set such lofty goals at the very beginning when this summit was announced. That's a question that is still very much open -- Victor and Christi.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Ryan Nobles for us at the White House. Thank you, Ryan.

BLACKWELL: President Trump confirmed the summit is back on. This was after that meeting, as Ryan mentioned, with Kim Yong Chol. The ex-spy chief who hand delivered a letter from North Korean Leader Kim Jong- un. Now for more on what the letter entailed, what was there which we know the letter was examined for toxins before it was delivered.

Let's go to CNN correspondent, Will Ripley, in Singapore. Will, hello to you, what do we know about the letter?

WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Victor. Well, we know that it was a letter from Kim Jong-un to President Trump. We know that it was delivered in a very formal, official way, and we know that President Trump obviously liked what he read because he's pushing forward with the summit.

In fact, he announced he was going to push forward with the summit before he even read the letter. He did that because apparently it was a favorable meeting in the oval office with Kim Yong Chol, North Korea's ex-spy master.

It shows how really far things have come just -- within the last week. I mean, North Korea and the United States were trading bombastic rhetoric. Then the summit was off. Now, the summit is back on here in Singapore.

And we know that there are teams from the U.S. and North Korea on the ground here right now making preparations for that summit. Finalizing where the hotels are going to be, where the summit will be held, where each leader is going to stay, along with their all their delegations and security. A whole lot of details to be worked out over the next ten days -- Victor and Christi.

[06:05:08] PAUL: All right. Will Ripley, we appreciate it so much. Thank you.

Now intelligence officials are doubting North Korea's major show of goodwill here, when the regime claimed to destroy their nuclear testing site in front of a select group of journalists. Will Ripley was one of the journalists who was there, no experts, remember, were invited. Questions about what exactly was destroyed still linger.

BLACKWELL: Joining us, Ivan Eland, senior fellow at the Independent Institute. Ivan, good morning to you.


BLACKWELL: So, after the North announced that they were going to demolish those tunnels there at Punggye-ri, President Trump tweeted out calling it a very smart and gracious gesture. Question here, does this further undermine Kim's credibility ahead of the talks now that we know that this was a little more than propaganda?

ELAND: Well, I think it does and this is a history of North Korea as, you know, pocketing concessions, not following through. Of course, the U.S. has had its lower moments in some of the agreements, too, and not following them.

I think North Korea is the bigger culprit here. And I think that this is one indication that President Trump out to be very careful. I think you saw another, Mitch McConnell doesn't say too much, but he was warning the president of not wanting the deal too much. I think that's probably a big risk here.

BLACKWELL: Yes, let's play that, the word of the day, "snooker," which is one I don't use often. Let's listen to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and his advice for the president.


MCCONNELL: It's going to be quite a challenge. And I think for these situations to work, you have to not want the deal too much. If you fall in love with a deal and it's too important for you to get it and the details have become less significant, you could get snookered.


BLACKWELL: So, what's your view on that? The president's balancing being open to a deal with North Korea without, as the majority leader there says, being too or wanting the deal too badly. Has the president balanced that properly?

ELAND: Well, of course, Kim has already won by getting a summit when there's been very little groundwork for the summit. We've had this problem in the past where leaders go off into the woods like Gorbachev and Reagan at Reykjavik and come back with something that the national security bureaucracies are horrified by.

So, I think that's a possibility in this case. Now Kim has won by the summit itself. I think we could get too down in the weeds there. I mean, compared to what we had before when -- when Trump was threatening to use nuclear weapons against North Korea with fire and fury or my nuclear button is bigger than yours, both sides were going back and forth with nasty rhetoric that could have led to war.

This is a better alternative than that. So, I think we're, you know -- I support him trying to do this. It is very unorthodox and there are high risks involved.

BLACKWELL: Let's talk about expectations, what the expectations were and what they are now. First, we're going to hear from the president back in the Rose Garden. This was April 30th, and then what the president said just yesterday. Watch.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I think the summit is going to happen. They very much want it. We certainly would like to see it. I think the summit will happen. And personally, I think it's going to be a success, but we'll see.

I will say this -- if it's not a success, if it's not -- get rid of the nuclear weapons. If it's not a success, I will respectfully leave. It will be a beginning -- I've never said it happens in one meeting.


BLACKWELL: So, the president saying in April, he thought it would be a success. That getting rid of the nuclear weapons in the single meeting. Now he's saying that he never said that it would happen in one meeting. What is a reasonable expectation from the June 12th meeting alone?

ELAND: Well, I think it is going to be a "get to know you plus" session. This is going to be wider scale-back expectations. I don't think North Korea will ever give up nuclear weapons.

And that may not even be the most important thing for the United States. For the United States, the most important thing is to get rid of those long-range missiles or you know, prevent their further testing because that's what gets the nuclear weapon here.

And so, I don't see any commitment in advance to North Korea denuclearizing. In fact, that's what blew up the first round of attempts to get the summit. And so, I think we need to -- Trump can get something useful out of the meeting, I think.

We've got to go to a partial type of victory, maybe getting rid of the missiles or eliminating the missile program.

BLACKWELL: What would Kim wants -- and he said several times is that he wants a denuclearization of the entire peninsula, reportedly, which would include requirements for the U.S. to pull out some of its forces, missile defense systems there in the south.

[06:10:10] Do you envision a scenario at all where that's plausible for the U.S. to pulls it forces, its resources out of the south?

ELAND: Well, I think, you know, actually that may be able viable option, but I don't think the national security bureaucracy is going to stand for it. And so, I know that both Jimmy Carter and Donald Rumsfeld in two different administrations had made statements that said, you know, our -- our military presence there is outdate.

Certainly, we could look at a wider type of settlement, but you'd have to include China, as well, if the U.S. were to withdraw its forces from Korea. Because I mean, the South Koreans, this is not 1950 anymore.

The South Koreans had an economic miracle and have 40 times the GDP of the destitute North. They ought to be, over a period of time, we ought to be able to wean their defense back to them instead of us providing it.

So, that would be something they could trade away, but I don't think the U.S. national security bureaucracies will allow that type of a bargain.

BLACKWELL: All right. Ivan Eland, senior fellow with the Independent Institute and author of "Eleven Presidents." Good to have you.

ELAND: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: New this morning, the "Wall Street Journal" reports that President Trump is planning another meeting. This time with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Reportedly on the table here, Syria, Ukraine, nuclear arms control. President Trump has always said he wanted to improve relations with Russia.

This would be the third meeting between the two. Earlier this week, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was in Pyongyang meeting with Kim Jong-un ahead of the North Korean's leader summit with President Trump.

PAUL: Breaking overnight, the U.S. is accusing China of intimidation and coercion. Defense Secretary James Mattis saying Washington is concerned about Beijing's militarization of the South China Sea islands. Mattis said last month China's Air Force landed bombers and deployed military hardware on those disputed islands as part of a training exercise. Raising alarm bells in that region, though. Take a listen.


JAMES MATTIS, DEFENSE SECRETARY: China's militarization of artificial features in the South China Sea includes the deployment of anti-ship missiles, surface-to-air missiles, electronic jammers, and more recently the landing of bomber of aircraft at Woody Island. Despite China's claims to the contrary, the placement of these weapons systems is tied directly to military use for the purposes of intimidation and coercion.


PAUL: Mattis added that the U.S. does not plan to abandon its role in the region.

BLACKWELL: Spy technology near the White House, a scary thought for many, but new government studies say that it is happening, it's there. They found cell phone surveillance devices near the White House. We'll tell you what else they found.

PAUL: Listen, crime in Chicago is down, but President Trump continues to slam that city using it as his favorite punching back to talk about gun laws.

BLACKWELL: Also, a fatal uber ride lands a driver in jail. What happened in that car.

Plus, CNN takes a closer look at ride-share companies and investigates the vetting process for drivers.



BLACKWELL: According to the Chicago police, gun violence and some violent crimes are down for the 15th month in a row.

PAUL: But that isn't stopping President Trump from slamming the city. He claims that crime is up despite tougher gun laws. CNN's Ryan Young walks us through the details here. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RYAN YOUNG, CNN WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Chicago's struggle with crime continues to be one of President Trump's favorite targets.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: We all know what's going on in Chicago, but Chicago has the toughest gun laws in our country.

YOUNG: On Twitter last week, the president called out Chicago's mayor and accused the city of preventing police from doing their job. The killings are at a record pace, and tough police work which Chicago would not allow will bring things back to order fast. The killings must stop.

MAYOR RAHM EMMANUEL, CHICAGO: This is a Trump-free zone. We will facts. This is what matters -- the matter is what happens on the street. We're making progress. We're not where we need to be. We do have a strategy that generally people buy into.

YOUNG: Mayor Rahm Emanuel tells CNN the police department is turning the tide against violence. According to Chicago Police data, for the last 15 months, violent crime has been on the decline. So far this year, about 500 less shooting victims than in 2016 during the same period, and about 50 fewer murder victims.

EMANUEL: And while we've added hundreds upon more officers and will continue that for a thousand more, the biggest thing I'm happy about is we have 32,000 kids, a record high in our summer jobs program.

YOUNG: Michael Frederick, a longtime southside resident and business owner, believes so much potential has been taken by gunfire.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You tend to want to stay in the house because there's so much shooting going on. This past weekend there was a shooting near the park early in the day. They taped it off. Later in the day, there was a shooting at the expressway, this way, on state. It's taped off. You can't commute back and forth.

YOUNG: After a violent 2016, the city started adding social services. Additional police officers and state-of-the-art technology to assist officers in the 13 most-violent neighborhoods.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shot spotter is probably key to the -- to what we're doing here. Shot spotter, it detects gunshots and notifies our officers, a lot of times, before 911 is called. In fact, a lot of times 911 wouldn't be called. Officers get the notification right away to cell phones that they have with them in the cars, and they're able to respond to areas.

YOUNG: Officers say as the numbers dip more, community members are engaging with them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love this town, man. I love this town. I'm in hopes that it will get better and different and sometime real soon. [06:20:10] RAHM: And if we have to work at it every day, we're doing it now slowly but surely with a little more wind at our back rather than at our face.

YOUNG: Ryan Young, CNN, Chicago.


PAUL: Well, could the president's cell phone be a target of spies? Yes, according to a new government study.

BLACKWELL: It found that cell phone surveillance devices have been detected near the White House and other sensitive locations in D.C. and it could be a potential national security threat. Here's CNN's Jessica Schneider.

JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A study just released is now revealing the presence of cell phone spying devices all around Washington, D.C., including near the White House. Now this spying technology which is often known by its brand name "Sting Ray," it was discovered by the Department of Homeland Security during a study in 2017.

It had been previously reported that some devices were discovered around D.C., but this is the first time we're hearing they were also near the White House. Now these devices, they essentially act as fake cell phone towers, as mobile devices connect to them, the people or the entities operating them are able to snoop on the traffic that goes right through them.

That means they can track phones. They can intercept phone calls. They can access some text messaging that isn't encrypted. They can even plant malware on the phones that they pick up.

And this is creating particular concern because of our reporting from multiple sources that the president has increasingly been using his personal cell phone to talk with friends and even to tweet. A senior White House official, though, insists that the president's phone is secure.

But a Democratic senator, Ron Widen, he's demanding that telephone companies and the Federal Communications Commission act to stop any potential spying, especially because as he puts it, the president and his personal phone could be a target of foreign intelligence services.

The FCC, though, declined a previous request from Democratic lawmakers to investigate other devices that were found around Washington. The FCC at that point said there was no evidence yet that the devices were being unlawfully used.

Now when it comes to all of this and these cases, law enforcement has already done some investigation. They've determined that at least some of the devices and the signals came from legitimate devices.

It appears, of course, there are lingering questions about whether any foreign entities may have set up any of the spying devices. Jessica Schneider, CNN, Washington.

PAUL: All righty, thank you to Jessica there.

Still ahead, an Uber driver accused of shooting and killing his passenger on the interstate. What his wife is telling CNN about her husband and his history with the ride-sharing company.

BLACKWELL: Plus, have you seen this video -- this Georgia doctor, she's facing new complaints by almost 100 women now after she's seen here dancing and singing during cosmetic surgery.



PAUL: Welcome back. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. An Uber driver is under arrest accused of fatally shooting a passenger. Police say 29-year-old Michael Hancock shot and killed a man who appeared to be his passenger.

Now according to court documents, a 911 call have said an Uber driver told him, his passenger tried to attack him, and the driver shot him. At least 10 bullets were fired. The man who was hit multiple times was found lying on the floor board of the front passenger seat.

BLACKWELL: So, let's talk about policy. Uber's official policy prohibits riders and drivers from carrying firearms in a vehicle while using the app to the extent permitted by local laws.

Now in a statement, the company says it is deeply troubled by this and the suspect's wife tells CNN, her husband has never been to jail, a five-star Uber rating, and no complaints.

PAUL: Uber told a CNN affiliate that it did background check on Hancock according to Colorado laws, but there have been questions about whether Uber is properly vetting these drivers.

BLACKWELL: Here's CNN's Drew Griffin.


DREW GRIFFIN, CNN SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When Colorado's Public Safety commissioner heard about a man who was allegedly assaulted by an Uber driver, he demanded a list from Uber of all its drivers with disqualifying records.

DOUG DEAN, COLORADO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER: Frankly, we were shocked by what we found.

GRIFFIN: The list Doug Dean got from Uber included 12 Uber drivers convicted of felonies and others with DUIs or driving on suspended licenses.

(on camera): What does that tell you about the background process? DEAN: It tells me that the background process as it is in law right now doesn't work.

GRIFFIN (voice-over): According to Uber, the company's policy disqualifies drivers convicted of felonies, violent crimes and sexual offenses, as well as major driving violations. Yet, in case after case, convicted felons have been approved to drive anyway in Maryland, California, and Massachusetts.

Government agencies did additional screening and found what add up to thousands of drivers with disqualifying criminal records even sexual offenders approve to work for Uber. In Texas, approved Uber drivers included a murderer on parole.

And a convicted felon once accused, though, not convicted of seeking to smuggle rocket launchers into the Middle East. He is now sentenced to 25 years for sexually assaulting a passenger.

Uber sexual assault victims like this woman say Uber must improve how it screens drivers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If they really want to put themselves out there as the safe ride home, they should really make sure that they are putting these people out there they're going to get you home safely.

GRIFFIN: Uber's response to the problems in its background checks is that the company has made significant investments and improvements and will continue to work with state and local governments to get it right in the future.

To conduct its background checks, Uber and Lyft both use a company Checker which uses a potential driver's name and Social Security number to search federal, state and local courts and other databases for disqualifying records.

Regulators tell CNN that is not enough and that government-run background checks that include fingerprinting potential drivers would go further in discovering histories of violence. But Uber says fingerprints don't offer a complete picture of arrests and convictions and Uber has gone to great lengths to fight any government-run background checks.

MATT DAUS, FORMER CHAIRMAN, NEW YORK CITY TAXI & LIMOUSINE COMMISSION: That's their game plan in every single city, every single state. We're going to get a law passed that's just for us. It's their own special law for Uber and Lyft.

GRIFFIN: A CNN investigation tallied more than 400 lobbyists across the country hired by Uber, mostly to fight stricter oversight. In many states, even writing the laws. CNN's investigation reviewed all 43 states that have laws or rules on driver background checks. And they are strikingly similar. All but Massachusetts leave background checks up to Uber. And in 31 states, the laws passed reflect Uber's recommended wording on driver screening, in some cases almost word for word. This e-mail from an Uber lobbyist to a Wyoming lawmaker shows just how

influential Uber can be. The Uber lobbyist writes they have two major issues with a draft of the bill, including the criminal background check provision. The lobbyist tells the lawmaker, "Change it back to the model language." It was.

Three former Uber employees who worked on policy tell CNN Uber wants to control its screening process to get drivers on the road as soon as possible.

Georgia legislator Alan Powell, says Uber's attitude is states have no business screening its drivers.

STATE REP. ALAN POWELL, (R), GEORGIA: It's, I don't know, we're above the government, we run our own background checks.

GRIFFIN: In response to its lobbying efforts, Uber says, "Everybody lobbies and we're proud to work with elected officials to develop common-sense regulations for a new industry."

Drew Griffin, CNN, Denver.


CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you to Drew there.

Now still to come, nearly 100 women are now accusing that so-called dancing doctor of malpractice while under her knife. What we've learned her credentials and the facility that's allowing her to continue to practice.


[06:37:10] VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, nearly 100 more women now are coming out with complaints about that Georgia cosmetics surgery doctor who's shown on video singing and dancing around her patients under anesthesia.

Actually it's pronounced Boutte. Her name is Dr. Windell Boutte. There are now five malpractice lawsuits against her. She's reached four settlements already and these women say they were victims of Boutte's unprofessionalism and unsafe work practices.

PAUL: Now all of this is sparking a national conversation about doctors' credentials and the facilities that allow them to perform procedures that aren't necessarily qualified to do.

CNN correspondent Kaylee Hartung has more.

KAYLEE HARTUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi, Victor, since these shocking videos were first exposed last week, one attorney tells me nearly 100 women have reached out to her office claiming that they, too, suffered under the knife of Dr. Windell Boutte. Attorney Susan Witt says some are unhappy with their results, but several others experienced serious post surgical complications due to infections. Many of these women believe these videos are evidence of the lack of

care and lack of concern that this doctor has for her patients which motivated them to come forward with their claims. At least two of these women say they have identified themselves in the videos.

Witt is already involved in litigation against Dr. Boutte and says her practices are just one example of a much larger problem.


SUSAN WITT, ATTORNEY FOR SEVERAL VICTIMS FILING LAWSUITS: I think in this day and age patients do have to be their own advocate. This has been a cautionary tale which I believe patients can learn from. One of the most important, second to checking your physician's credentials, is doing some research on the facility where these procedures are going to be performed. I would not recommend having surgery anywhere other than a hospital or an ambulatory surgical center.


HARTUNG: This is a cautionary tale beyond the Atlanta area Dr. Boutte practices in. Witt says she's received calls from women in Delaware, South Carolina, Louisiana, even one from San Francisco. We asked an attorney representing Boutte about the pending cases and the new allegations. We were told at this time they have no comment -- Victor, Christi.

PAUL: All right. Kaylee, thank you so much.

Let's talk to CNN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Joey Jackson about this.

Good morning to you, sir.


PAUL: So nearly 100 new people coming forward with complaints. I want to broaden this out because this is not just a Georgia issue. Let's take a look at some of the states here. There are seven states without laws regulating office-based surgery, which is what we're talking about. Surgeries that are performed in an office. Seven of them do have medical board guidelines but there are 18 other states that literally had no law regulating office-based surgeries.

[06:40:06] They don't even need a license to perform those surgeries. So we've got Boutte's clients who are claiming that they suffered infection, disfigurement and brain damage. Are there any legal ramifications or options for these people, Joey.

JACKSON: There are plenty, Christi. And it's such an important conversation to have, glad you're having it from a broader perspective, right? So they stay specific as it relate to Dr. Boutte and others and there is the general, as it relates to states and what they do? So let's take the general first. The issue then becomes from a state perspective is what are legislators doing to support an otherwise ensure quality service for people who are looking to get these procedures.

Are there regulations to ensure that not only medical doctors but medical doctors who are board certified in specifically plastic surgery or other issues, you know, are there those types of laws set up in various states to protect people? That's number one.

Number two, what are the staffing requirements? Are the staff who are assigned at these procedures -- do they have the requisite training skill and experience? Number three, where are the procedures being held? Are they being held in office? And if they're in office, what are the regulations, if any, or are they simply guidelines, which are nice rules, but they just mean they're rules, they're not specific guidelines, or are there requirements that they be done at hospitals and outpatient facilities?

And so those are the things that state legislators can do, right? Remember, every state is a sovereign onto itself. There are 50 of them. And every state passes its own laws that are designed to protect people, consumers and other people looking for assistance. And so when you have botched procedures, when you have, now a more specific discussion, Christi, you know, people like Dr. Boutte who optically are dancing, you're there to get a procedure and they're dancing and carrying on, that could present specific problems.

Apparently for her it did. And now the issue is how do you crack down on it to ensure that people looking for care get the care that they need without it, you know, suffering grievous injury or harm?

PAUL: Yes, so when you brought up the videos, I mean, there was nothing -- we need to point out, we need to point out there was nothing illegal about her making these videos as far as we can tell. This was on YouTube. It was promotional, we kind of understand I suppose what her intention was, you know, to gain clients. But is there anything you see that might be legally questionable in the videos, Joey?

JACKSON: Well, here's what happens, you know, from an optical perspective obviously it looks horrible, right? You show this to any jury and they kind of -- kind of say, what is she doing? So from an optical perspective it's hard to explain.

Now to be fair, let me put my defense hat on, people have what they go through, whether it's pregame rituals or things that make them feel better and things that make them perform better, perhaps this is what she does. But as it relates to her, unfortunately, that's not the only issue. The issue, as I mentioned before is looking at her staff. Were the staff that she had around her suitable and adequate in order to assist her doing the procedure.

The facility itself, did the facility have the proper equipment, have the -- you know, was she following a proper protocols to get people what they needed. So those are the things that will be looked at. I think that also from a defense perspective, they'll say, hey, you know, you mentioned five lawsuits, I've been practicing for 25 years, I've worked on thousands and thousands of patients, that's a very small percentage. So it's not only the video which optically is off, it's was she

performing to a standard of care which people in her care which people in her care could trust, rely upon, respect and otherwise get the services that she was supposed to provide. But I don't know how she would think that posting a video like that would garner business. I think it would garner attention of a negative variety which would make you question what the heck is going on there.

Another thing, for me to be doing videos before a cross examination or before an opening statement, quite another when you're performing surgery on someone acting in this way does not look too good.

PAUL: Very good point. So I can -- I want to talk about how consumers can protect themselves. We only have a couple of minutes here. So if you get to that, and also just to be clear, according to Georgia state medical records, Boutte is a board certified dermatologist.

JACKSON: Correct.

PAUL: She is not board certified for general or plastic surgery, and that somehow is all legal. So when I say that, how dangerous is this for people who are planning this, and why, Joey, why would medical boards have such broad guidelines?


JACKSON: Yes. I think the last question -- sure. I think the last question is people presume that if you're a medical doctor, right, that you have a certain basis of competency, that you past the requirement procedure, exams, et cetera and therefore you're qualified. However, there are specialties in everything.

And so the issue as you rightfully point out, Christi, you're board certified in dermatology, but what about plastic surgery or other things. Board certifications are significant and this is how people can protect themselves because they show. You have the training, the experience, the knowledge, that you've done the fellowships and the internships. You have the continuing legal education.

[06:45:03] You've done those things you need to do and I think the tips that you list there very important for people, great discussion to have so people can protect themselves, not be butchered by doctors when this is a great time in their life when they're looking to get better, be better and do better so.

PAUL: All right. Joey Jackson, thank you for walking us through it. We appreciate it. Good seeing you always.

JACKSON: Thank you, Christi.

PAUL: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Tiger Woods back in a big way exciting the crowds. Coy Wire is here to explain. COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Can't wait to get to that, Victor

and Christi, good morning to you. We also have a 6-year-old impersonator of Steph Curry, we have an NFL coach that jumped into Lake Eerie. We're going to show you that and this incredible shot by Tiger Woods. That's coming up right here on NEW DAY.


[06:50:00] BLACKWELL: So I'm told -- I don't know for myself -- that golf feels different when Tiger Woods is doing feel. And fans in Ohio got a pretty big treat yesterday.

PAUL: Coy Wire has some more on this morning's "Bleacher Report." He's tired but he's here and he's rearing to go.

WIRE: I am tired, I'm trying to put my tie on this morning. You guys looking sharp. Good to be back with you.

Tiger Woods had the crowd buzzing there at the Memorial trying -- it's one of his favorites. He's now just six strokes behind the lead. But it was a shot on the 11th hole that has Tiger trending on this morning. It was his third stroke on a par five. Tiger flying the ball past the hole and then like Victor Blackwell spotting a deal on some designer shoes --

BLACKWELL: All right.

WIRE: Get over here. Oh yes, Tiger Woods, with the eagle and that iconic fist bomb. Look at the crowd reaction, though. The fans are jumping, they're throwing their hats in the air. Now Tiger --

PAUL: Ohio fans for you.


WIRE: Tiger to pull up another solid round today, Christi and Victor. He'll be right there within striking distance for tomorrow's final round. He tees off at 11:20 Eastern.

Now a powerful moment for White Sox pitcher Danny Farquhar and his family in Chicago. Danny had a brain aneurysm in April but last night he threw out the ceremonial first pitch. That was the first time the 31-year-old threw a ball. Even put on a hat, he said, since collapsing that day in the dugout. His teammates, fans, grew up with, they've seen Danny take another step back towards normal season, right, well, he and his doctors thought he might never walk again or take any steps. He got his street children, his wife, his high school sweetheart Lexi by her side, and Farquhar said that his biggest steps are yet to come.


DANNY FARQUHAR, WHITE SOX PITCHER: I just need to get to that point where I can, you know, big league level compared to other levels of baseball. It's a big difference. But I think I'll be back there one day. (END VIDEO CLIP)

WIRE: I think, too, and hope. Farquhar says he doesn't remember anything from that day. The White Sox taking the Brewers 8-3.

Now game two of the NBA Finals between the Cavs and Warriors tomorrow night and you can bet bedtime will be pushed back for this kid. 6- year-old Trent Fuller. He's known as Baby Steph Curry. Kind of looks like him, right? He also has skills and can play like him, too. Now Trent is on a first name basis with the team. He served as a sideline reporter during media day. Listen to this kid.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you think of LeBron?



FULLER: Yes, I don't want


FULLER: LeBron James don't have (INAUDIBLE), right? We like the Williams.

WHITNEY FULLER, TRENT'S MOTHER: Yes. He's a natural. We never have to, like, tell him what to say. I mean, as you can see, he says whatever is at the top of his mind.


WIRE: Trent feels like he does have a career as a Golden State Warriors someday but his backup plan making ice cream, he says.

All right. Before the big game, we're giving you a 30-minute all access look at the NBA Finals right here on CNN. Allie LaForce, NBA champ Steve Smith hosting a CNN/"Bleacher Report at this afternoon at 2:30 Eastern.

Now one NFL coach jumping to Lake Eerie yesterday with some of his friends and staff. Keeping his word, Browns Coach Hugh Jackson took the plunge and promised fans in Cleveland if he wouldn't do that if his team didn't better their 1-16 record from two seasons ago, well, they didn't. They didn't win any game last year, becoming just the second team ever to go winless in an entire season. It's about that time, though. Time of the year you're getting warm, jump in the lake.

PAUL: Yes.

WIRE: Have some fun. Hopefully they can get some fun on the field.

PAUL: And again Ohio fans there, you know, they just -- they die hard.

WIRE: Yes.

PAUL: Don't matter if you're winning or losing. That dog (INAUDIBLE).

BLACKWELL: You bring one, though. Just one.

WIRE: Just one.

PAUL: This year will be the year. But this was really the year for this guy.

WIRE: Oh my goodness.

PAUL: He's became a dad. Look at little Miss Wrenn. She's smiling at Mama Claire.

WIRE: Good thing I brought this handkerchief because I may need it. Christi, you were there participate in the shower.

PAUL: Look at her.

WIRE: She makes me lose it. I mean, she just makes me want to be a better man. Commit to a higher sense of sacrifice and bettering myself every single day. It's been a true blessing. One quick funny story, well, two. I first used 15 wipes the first time I tried to change the diaper. That's no joke. That wasn't economically so I worked on my game, but you know we had that moment, mom was doing mommy things so I got to give her a bath. And she's unsure about the water.

She's crying, she's throwing a fit, and I feel heartbroken, I can't get her to stop. But I'm getting you cleaned. Taking her back to her room then all of a sudden the crying stops so I looked down and she's gazing at me. And as I look down there bare naked in my arms, I'm like this is the moment. She knows daddy was taking care of her. But it was a moment, it was a movement. All of a sudden her face crunched up and she did baby do all over me.


[06:55:01] WIRE: It looked like I got in a fight with a (INAUDIBLE).

PAUL: Coy, welcome to daddyhood.

WIRE: But I love her even more afterwards.

PAUL: And very good point to say the bare naked, he meant the baby, not him.


WIRE: Yes. Yes.

PAUL: Thank you, Coy. Thanks. Congratulations. We're so happy for you.

WIRE: Appreciate it.

PAUL: We're back in a minute.

BLACKWELL: Quick break.


BLACKWELL: Sunday on "PARTS UNKNOWN," Anthony Bourdain is headed to Hong Kong.


ANTHONY BOURDAIN, HOST, CNN'S "PARTS UNKNOWN": Chapter one, to fall in love with Asia is one thing. To fall in love in Asia is another. Both did happen to me. The star ferry to Kowloon at night. Lights of Hong Kong behind me. It's a gift. A dream. A curse.