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Guatemala Volcano Spewing Deadly Clouds of Rocks, Gas and Ash; Putin in Austria on Rare Visit to Western Europe; Philadelphia Mayor Slams Trump as "Fragile Egomaniac": Qatar Boycott Drags into Second Year; Amnesty International Says Airstrikes Breached Humanitarian Law; Tim Cook Says People Might Want to Use Their Phones Less. Aired 11a-12n ET
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[11:00:00] BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: Hello, and welcome. This is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Becky Anderson in Abu Dhabi where the time is 7:00 in the
Well, with almost no warning at all, millions coming face-to-face with things that will look like the end of the world. Let's just let these
pictures speak for themselves. You hear the paralyzing fear in these trembling voices. You're watching a terrifying panicked drive to outrun a
huge volcano eruption in Guatemala. A tsunami of molten rocks and thick heavy ash blasting out from the very core of our planet. As you can see,
faster than cars, faster than motorbikes hurdling along at hundreds of kilometers an hour. So massive it chokes off the sky and while suffocating
everything it touches on the ground. The search for survivors, hard, long, gruesome. So far, 69 people have been found dead.
I want to get you on the ground now with Nic Wirtz. He's that intrepid journalist as you can see, is just kilometers from the volcano, probably as
close as you can safely be. In fact, I think we have him on the line at present. Can't get the shot actually up. Nic, what are you seeing?
Describe what you are seeing. And how big a shock is this to you?
NIC WIRTZ, JOURNALIST (VIA PHONE): Good evening, Becky. Being in Guatemala for a decade now and this is pretty much a once in a century type
of eruption. It's actually the first time that Guatemala has experienced pyroclastic gases as well during an eruption which makes both the rescue
and recovery operations even more hazardous.
ANDERSON: Just describe what people are saying. I mean, we're looking at these terrifying images. It looks apocalyptic from here.
WIRTZ: Absolutely. It's just the ground is completely covered in this volcanic ash which is swarmed four or five communities, and the fear is
that there are dozens, if not hundreds of people left to be found once they then finally manage to reach some of these communities.
ANDERSON: Nic, I'm going to let you go because I know it's pretty hazardous stuff where you are. Viewers see we've got some new video just
into CNN. Let me show you that and let me have you listen in on one of the first moments of this eruption.
It looks and sounds like a fire breathing dragon sulking away from a long slumber. Now the question, will it and any time soon. Let's get you to
CNN's Chad Meyers, meteorologist and weather expert covering stories like this for 30 years. Chad, just describe, if you will, what it really is
that we are seeing here. How this works, and what happens next?
CHAD MEYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: What happens next is one of two things. We either have a continuation of the lava eruption, which is possible, not
as probable of what we consider a lahar. A lahar are mud slides. They will be mud slides from this on top of the ash. We will have just
centimeters of rain falling on the ash. The ash will run downhill into the same cities already affected by the pyroclastic flow. Now the problem with
the mud it's about the consistency as thick concrete. So, this is what the past couple days now have looked like after the pyroclastic flow has ended.
[11:05:00] These are gases that are rushing down. They're heavy because if there full of rocks and full of dust, ash all going downhill very, very
quickly, and then things settle. So now we have all of this ash on the mountain side that's about to get wet. That we know is going to happen.
There are tropical systems out there that are going to spread 250 millimeters of rainfall over the next four days. This is what the ash
looks like on top of buildings and then trucks.
And now we're in tropical season. So, the humidity is out there. There are a couple of potential storms, not that they would even come close to
the coast here. They likely stay offshore, but it's that moisture, just coming together here in the outside. We watch one of the eyes go that way,
another eye over here. It's the moisture coming onshore hitting the higher elevations of the volcanic peak and then that water rushes back down the
hill as a mud slide.
Will it continue? Will continue to erupt? We don't know. They didn't even know this was going to happen. There was not that much of an increase
in, like, the earthquake activity that sometimes we see before. This just went off like a bomb, and it went off at night, 4:00 something in the
morning. And then the skies were finally brighter in the afternoon. You can really see all the damage.
I mean, this is the same as Pompeii. A pyroclastic flow is what killed the people of Pompeii so many years ago. In this lahar very as much dangerous
to the people that are either trying to rescue people that may be still trapped our buried under something, but still alive. Because when this mud
comes downhill, it moves fast as well. Not hundreds of kilometers per hour though, 20 or 30 At 20-30.
ANDERSON: Stay with me. I just want the viewers to get some of the most recent footage that we got from Guatemala. We think you viewers should see
the ground, so throbbing hot, almost impossible to stand on the thick boots of firefighters. We are told, melting as they walk on it. Here, well, I
mean, a brave rescuer suddenly finding and rescuing a baby, amazingly looking almost totally unharmed, surely almost a miracle.
And let's get you up in the air, viewers, to get a sense of the scale of the damage here. As far as the eye can see, turned gray, all color soaked
up in the ash. This village suffocating under it. The bottom of your screen, folks, rescuers looking for survivors. Large equipment moving the
ash out of the way. And Chad, we are also watching another volcano blast into life in Hawaii. CNN's Scott McClain has been on this story now for
days right by it as molten lava pours into this cool ocean. Viewers just get a look at some of his most recent reporting. Have a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SCOTT MCCLAIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You can also see that dark smoke there over to the right side. Those are houses burning, structures. Keep in
mind, this is an entire neighborhood. This is the Pahoa vacation land area, and there's several hundred homes, several hundred cottages, all of
them most likely will be in the way of the lava at some point. Because this entire stretch is about a half a mile wide, and, really, it has
nowhere else to go but through these homes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: So that's Hawaii. We've been talking Guatemala. The images are staggering. Chad, are these two linked at all here?
MYERS: No, absolutely not. Because where Hawaii is -- Hawaii is over a hot spot in the center of the Pacific Ocean. Where Guatemala is on what is
well known as a ring of fire, it's not a technical term, but it's all of the volcanos that are around the Pacific plate. So, no, not attached at
all, and, in fact, two completely different types of volcanos. Where Kilauea is oozing lava coming out. It will spout at some time, but the
strata volcano that went off like a bomb in Guatemala, that was a completely different type of volcano whatsoever. The one in Hawaii just
pushes lava out and out and builds the mountain. That lava has built the Hawaiian Islands just like the other island chains out there as well.
Hotspots in the Pacific make islands. Volcanos over the Pacific subduction plates make explosions.
ANDERSON: Chad Myers, always a pleasure having you in the house, Sir. Thank you.
MYERS: Thank you.
More on that story as we get it, and as soon as we get these images in for you, the newest images, we will, of course, bring them to you. Remarkable
Now, moving on, Vladimir Putin does not visit Western Europe too much, so his current trip to Austria is naturally being closely watched by that
[11:10:02] The Russian President was greeted by his Austrian counterparts in Vienna earlier. This is Putin's first visit to Western Europe in almost
a year. Trade and economic cooperation are officially on top of the agenda there, may be some appreciation for Austria there as well.
The country drew criticism when it refused to expel Russian diplomats after an ex-Russian spy was, you'll remember, poisoned in the U.K. CNN's Matthew
Chance is live in Moscow for us. And this trip making headlines for a myriad of reasons, Matthew, explain.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right. I mean, first of all, the choice of Austria as the first country for Putin
to visit since his re-election as Russian President back in March is an interesting one. Because Austria as you mentioned is one of those European
countries that is seeing as having adopted a much softer line towards the Kremlin than some of its European Union partners.
This for instance, Austria was not one of the countries that expelled Russian diplomats from its territory following the poisoning in Britain of
the Skripals, the former spy and his daughter that which took place some time ago. And so, it broke ranks with the European Union in that sense.
And, of course, one of the coalition partners in the Austrian government, which is a right-wing party, a far-right party, has routinely come out and
expressed its opposition to the regime of sanctions that's been imposed on Russia by the European Union because of conduct in Ukraine and Crimea and
And so, again, Austria is one of those places where Russia feels that it's got a much more of an ear of the government, and so I think there's been
lots of interest in why he would choose Austria to go to this time. There is an interesting interview that was carried out by Vladimir Putin with the
Austrian state television. And he was asked specifically about that, is this an opportunity, is this a way of rewarding Austria for its sort of
loyalty, was essentially the question asked him. And he said, no, we're not involved, we're not interested in dividing Europe.
Russia has been routinely accused of' fueling anti-European parties and funding them. We want a strong and prosperous, united Europe, Putin says.
Because it's our main trading partner. Sort of repeating the sort of Kremlin line it often repeats when it's confronted with those allegations.
But at the same time, it does fund anti-European parties to the tune of millions of dollars as well, so Putin's actions or the actions of the
Russian state on unnecessarily matched by his words -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. Officially and economically, of course, Russia and Austria celebrating a 50-year energy relationship, and Austria still
importing a third of its gas from Russia. All right, Matthew, thank you for that.
We are, folks, just a week away from that historic sit-down between Donald Trump and North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. Much-hyped but it's clear from
the President's Twitter feed today that he -- well, he's more focused on controversies at home. One is of his own making. Mr. Trump has abruptly
cancelled an event to honor the Super Bowl Champions, the Philadelphia Eagles, which was today at the White House, after learning many of the
players weren't going to attend. He cited the dispute over some NFL players kneeling during the National Anthem as a fact that, in his
decision, even though no Eagle player did that last season. Well, it did not take long for Philadelphia's mayor to fire back in a blistering
statement. He called Mr. Trump a fragile ego maniac obsessed with crowd size. He also says the President is not, and I quote, true patriot and
he's acting like a child who just wants to take his ball and go home. We'll have a listen to exactly what he said.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JIM KENNEY, PHILADELPHIA MAYOR: Unless you kneel to me, unless you pay homage to me, as President of the United States, I going to disinvite you
from the people's house. That's not what the presidency's all about. The presidency is about every common person who looks up to that office and
wants to be treated as an equal American, and he does not want to treat people equally, only the people who support him are the people he considers
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Let's bring our White House reporter, Jeremy Diamond for more. This is absolutely of Donald Trump's own making. Remember folks, Mr. Trump
also calling players who kneeled during the national anthem as a former protest, sons of bitches who deserved to be fired.
[11:15:00] Jeremy, let's be clear, no Philadelphia Eagles player has publicly knelt in demonstration during the national anthem, correct? What
is the message that Trump is sending, not only to NFL players here, but all of America?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, you're right about that, Becky, that no Philadelphia Eagles player in the last season at any point
knelt during the national anthem, which is the issue the President has been railing about for the better part of the last year. So, he would like you
to believe the message that he is sending to America is that people, players, NFL players in particular, should respect the national anthem,
should stand for the national anthem. He tweeted just this morning, we'll proudly be playing the national anthem and other wonderful music
celebrating our country today at 3:00 p.m. -- that's when the Eagles were supposed to be here. The White House, with the United States Marine band
and United States Army Corps is honoring America. NFL no escaping to the locker rooms.
That's a reference, of course, to the NFL's recent decision that players must stand during the anthem if there on the field, but they can remain in
the locker room. But, again, because no Eagle player has knelt for the national anthem, that's not really what this is about. What this is about
today is the fact that the Eagles said they were going to have a very small delegation of players that was actually agreeing to come to the White House
today for this event. When the President learned that yesterday, he was infuriated, and he decided to cancel the event all together.
So, the real message that he sending to America here is that he does not want to be embarrassed on national television by a small delegation of
players coming to the White House instead of the full team. So clearly, what the President here is worried about is the optics of that potential
visit, more so than this actual issue of the national anthem and paying respect to the flag.
ANDERSON: Jeremy Diamond is in Washington for you. Thank you.
Still to come tonight, it was a diplomatic bomb shell. Several nations in the Middle East cut ties with Qatar. Well, next we'll look at how the tiny
country is faring one year on.
ANDERSON: Well, 19 minutes past 7:00 in the UAE. This is our Middle East broadcasting hub here in Abu Dhabi, and I want to remain here, as it were,
rather than move elsewhere on stories and turn to a crisis right here in the Gulf.
[11:20:00] Qatar says it is doing fine despite a boycott by several Arab nations that began exactly 12 months ago. It was a momentous move that
pitted key U.S. partners against each other.
ANDERSON (voice-over): One year ago, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt broke off diplomatic and transport ties with Qatar over what they
said was Doha's support for terrorism. Allegations that Qatar denies. A list of demands including shutting down one of the most widely watched TV
networks in the Arab world, Al Jazeera, received short shrift in Doha. So, 12 months on, it's still a stubborn stalemate with nobody ready to back
(on camera): Well, the back story here is a complicated one, and depending on which side you are on, the stew of regional rivalries of sectarian
tensions of economic opportunism take on a different flavor. At the time the quartet said they simply ran out of patience with Doha after years of
ANWAR GARGASH, UAE FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER: We had an agreement in 2014, all people signed by the Amir of Qatar pledging that he will abide by
various grievances that were put in the agreement, and they have not held to that agreement.
ANDERSON (voice-over): CNN exclusively obtained documents revealing for the first-time the details of a series of those agreements in which Qatar
and its Gulf neighbors committed to not interfere in each other's politics and barred support for certain groups.
Qatar, for its part, characterized the cortex move last year as an attack on its sovereignty and as an attempt to force it to change its policies on
some regional hot button issues. Including its relationship with Iran and its approach towards the religious and political group, the Muslim
Brotherhood with all four quartet states consider a terrorist group.
MOHAMMED BIN ABDULRAHMAN AL THANI, QATARI FOREIGN MINISTER: We have stated for many times, for hundred times, that we have no ties with Muslim
Brotherhood. Are we going to list the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization? We didn't have any proof that Muslim Brotherhood as a group
which committed an act of terror, and if we have this group, then they will be listed best on the acts they have done.
ANDERSON: The United States has direct interests on both sides. Now, despite the U.S. maintaining a huge military base in Qatar with thousands
of personnel, President Donald Trump initially seemed to welcome the quartet move, which happened just after his trip to Riyadh. His White
House has also closely aligned with Saudi Arabia to contain Iran, not to mention the billions of dollars in arms sales to Gulf states.
For now, Qatar has weathered the storm and insists it's on track to host a successful World Cup in just over four years' time. There's no denying the
immensely wealthy petrol gas state is a little less wealthy now. Burning through almost $39 billion of its vast reserves in the first three months
of the crisis alone.
ANDERSON: And the International Monetary Fund has just said that Qatar's growth remains resilient, and the impact of the crisis is, they say, quote,
manageable. But for how long? We'll, CNN's emerging market editor, John Defterios, joins me now. John, is everything adding up here?
JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNNMONEY EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Well, it's fascinating to watch because it's unprecedented if you think about an economic embargo.
Three of the six Gulf states are involved in an embargo. Then you have the most populated economy in Egypt joining the embargo as well. But it's a
small country. So, it gives it that flexibility to respond quickly and I think we have to give credit to Qataris that they did so.
But I pulled up a couple of numbers I think really kind of captures the spirit of the story. First and foremost, look at the size of the GDP.
It's not a big economy, estimated by the IMF at $193 billion in 2018. But it's interesting what is fueling the growth right now, it is the World Cup.
Over several years, they are estimated to spend $200 billion. I know the head of the World Cup operations Qatar said they are trimming the sales.
They're not overspending right now, but with the elixir of spending, you're only get growth of 2.6 percent, and that is what the IMF suggests is going
to be for the next five years until 2022, and then what happens? So, if they didn't have the World Cup, you wouldn't be having the growth now.
Now they have the benefit, the Qatar investment authority's $320 billion is the tenth largest in the world. They have other ruling family funds, so
they're not short of cash right now. They have 13 percent of the global gas reserves.
[11:25:00] Ranked number 3 behind Iran, Russia, and then Qatar, but their prolific producers. So that's helped them. As soon as the embargo was
announced, Becky, to their credit, four weeks later, they said they're going to boost production in the gas field, the north field, by 30 percent
over the next several years. So, they're doing almost everything you can do to protect the Qatari citizens, so they don't have unrest on the ground
and people complaining about isolation. That's the most crucial point.
ANDERSON: So, we've reached out to the governments of the quartet, and they haven't commented. But Qatar has marked the anniversary calling this
a year of, quote, strength and development. It says the actions of the blockading countries have failed in the last year, Qatar has forged
stronger relations with allies, accelerated new policy initiatives, and created a more s sustainable and diverse economy.
John, where is Qatar finding these green new pastures and what are the implications going forward for this new strategy?
DEFTERIOS: It is a complex melange. So, first and foremost to your point, where are they finding the greener pastures? They have gone into the
hands, of Iran and Turkey. Those are their two allies, and they are not small allies. Now, very senior sources that we've spoken to here and in
the region, suggest we want Qatar to make a choice. Do they want to be within the Gulf cooperation council or not? Do they want to follow Saudi
policy? Probably not. And that's why they're basically isolated.
Anwar Gargash, who's the minister of state, has said several times this could go on for years. They have a 13-point checklist, I don't see any
daylight with the Qataris agreeing with Saudi Arabia. Donald Trump even tried to intervene at one point. And they said if this is going to be
solved, it'll be negotiated in Riyadh, according to sources in Saudi Arabia. That's a hard reality. But they have been nimble. I mean, we've
seen Qatar Airways established 20 new destinations. The other harsh reality is 25 percent of their traffic going into Doha came from the Gulf
states, so they are suffering a bit.
Just on a practical matter, for those of us that live in the UAE and try to travel to Doha, which I did two weeks ago, it was a 45-minute flight. Door
to door now, it takes eight hours. You have to go through Muscat or Kuwait, have a layover, we go to Doha. I see a lot of bankers on the
flight. They're trying to keep the support for Qatar, but they're lost 25 percent of their tourism traffic. So, it's been a painful transition.
I think they protected their reputation. I heard this from more than one source, both in Washington and here in the region, they spend about a
billion dollars on burnishing the reputation through lobby spending and on public relations. That's a lot of money in one year's time, but I think it
did buffer to show that they are surviving. They're growing 2.6 percent. But I think with the IMF left out, Becky, and I think it's a very important
point, they were growing 8, 9, 10 percent during the boom. This is not the Qatar we know of three, four years ago. 2.6 percent is not great, and it's
driven by the World Cup. The other thing that stands out, I'm sure you would say the same, when you are on the ground, you see many images of
Sheikh Tamim. You have the sketches on the buildings, they are trying to show support for the ruling family. Qatari citizens at the same time
saying we can survive. That's the message they are trying to send to the outside world, but it's an expensive exercise at the same time.
John Defterios in the house. As always, a pleasure --
ANDERSON: -- having you here. Thank you.
Just ahead, they ousted ISIS from their de facto capital, but at what cost? Next, the new Amnesty International report looks at the devastation left in
the wake of the fight against the terror group in Raqqa and the conclusions. Well, they're pretty damning.
[11:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD. I'm Becky Anderson. Welcome back.
Before we bring you some of the other stories that we've been working on for you today, a reminder of our top story, dramatic and terrifying scenes
out of Guatemala following Sunday's unexpected eruption of the Fuego volcano. The mountain has spewed a river of lava and plumes of smoke,
almost 6 miles into the air. Look, these images just speak for themselves. Absolutely frightening, and at least 69 people have been killed. Authority
say that number could rise. Friends and relatives now holding funerals for their lost loved ones. The President has declared three days of national
mourning. More on that, of course, as we get it.
Violent, deadly, and what the U.S. led coalition calls targeted. A scene on repeat for five months last year in the skies above Raqqa in Syria. One
year tomorrow marks the anniversary of the offensive to oust ISIS from their self-proclaimed capital. And now a new report from Amnesty
International says air strikes like that probably breached international humanitarian law and potentially amount to war crimes. Well, coalition
forces say their strikes were precise and every effort was made to prevent civilian casualties. But the reality on the ground says Amnesty
International tells a different story.
Happy moments, the Badran family of Raqqa, this home video of them baking bread, joking around, was shot shortly before they all died in a coalition
air strike. A member of the family who survived told Amnesty International, quote, we thought forces who came to evict Daesh -- or ISIS
-- would know their business and would target Daesh and leave the civilians alone. We were wrong.
12-year-old Mohammed miraculously survived another air strike rubble is what is left of his family's home.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Can you show me where was the place exactly?
MOHAMMED, 12-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR (through translator): Here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And who was killed here from your family?
[11:35:00] MOHAMMED: My family? My father, my uncle, two of my female cousins, little ones, and my uncle's relative and his daughter.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: These are just some of the harrowing stories of the over 100 Raqqa residents interviewed by the rights group for their newest report.
Donatella Rovera of Amnesty International conducted some of those interviews and spent two weeks in Raqqa earlier in this year, visiting
dozens of coalition strike sites and speaking to people. She joins me now from London where she is a senior crisis response advisor for the human
rights group. We've shown some of the stories. We've listened to some of those on the ground. Just describe how long you were there for and what
you found while you were there on the ground.
DONATELLA ROVERA, SENIOR CRISIS RESPONSE ADVISOR, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL: I was in Raqqa for two weeks during my last visit, and I must say that even
though I have been going around war zones for more than two decades, I haven't seen such an extensive destruction as that that I found in Raqqa.
The situation on the ground is absolutely dire. People are, obviously, desperate, because they've lost loved ones, and homes, and livelihoods.
But above all, they are asking questions as to why so many civilians had to be killed and their city destroyed only for them, the coalition, letting
ISIS fighters leave the city with their weapons and with impunity.
ANDERSON: Well, since ISIS was forced out, about 100,000 people have returned to the city. Home is not what it used to be. A U.N. team finding
that as much as 80 percent of everything there was destroyed or damaged. I'm sure that is what you have witnessed.
As we've said, the coalition maintains there are rigorous standards in place on how strikes are targeted, and they say every effort made to
prevent and avoid civilian deaths. The British Ministry of Defense also responded to your report, saying in part and I quote, given the ruthless
and inhumane behavior of Daesh and congested complex urban environment in which we operate, we must accept that the risk of inadvertent civilian
casualties is ever present.
The coalition says they are doing their best, or they were doing their best to minimize casualties then and now, but the situation in Raqqa was a
tricky one. Given what you seen and given that we've read the report, how do you propose that they target ISIS in these sorts of situations?
ROVERA: Well, I've seen the response of the coalition, and, well, what I say to them is if they did what we did and actually went to the Raqqa and
carried out investigations on the ground, then spoke to survivors and witnesses, maybe they would understand the level of damage that they
inflicted on the city. Amnesty International we don't have some utopian view of an urban conflict which would be free of civilian casualties. We
know that there would be casualties.
The question is, have the coalition forces taken the necessary and feasible measures to reduce that? And, clearly, the choice of ammunitions that they
used, the apparent not thorough enough verification of the targets, all of that contributed to a situation where hundreds and hundreds of civilians
were killed. Entire families were wiped out when the homes they were in were bombed into dust. And, you know, it -- the coalition had a choice,
what ammunition to use, where to str strike, when, and how much resources to put into verifying the targets before striking. Because, you know,
precision ammunitions are only as precise as the intelligence that is being used to identify and verify targets.
ANDERSON: OK. I hear what you're saying. There will be another claim, and I've heard this on social media today, that the two cases that you have
highlighted in this are awful. Are they representative of what you found on the ground, and why just these two-family cases as it were, can you
ROVERA: Actually, our report highlights and details the cases of four families. As you can imagine, it takes a long time to do a proper field
investigation. And we chose those four cases because they are representative of why they're patterns.
[11:40:08] I can assure anybody who walks down the streets of Raqqa, they will find no shortages of cases like this. There are unfortunately many,
many more. You can hardly walk down one street without finding collapsed buildings and houses where civilians were killed. That's why we are
calling on the coalitions to face up to its responsibility, to carry out investigations that are proper worthy of the name. Because until now, what
they have done is battle damage assessment. They have not done proper investigation, and it is imperative they do that --
ANDERSON: I mean, Yes, the U.S. saying only two requests for compensation have actually been made since 2014, your report saying that many more
deserve to be compensated. Thank you. Fascinating stuff and important story to get out. Thanks for joining us. Let's get you up to speed
viewers on some of the other stories that are on our radar right now.
Jordan's King Abdullah as officially appointed outgoing education minister, Omar Al-Razzaz, as the country's new prime minister and tasked him with
forming a new government. The former prime minister, Hani Al-Mulki, resigned Monday after the kingdom faced the largest protest in years.
Jordan has now gone through seven prime ministers in less than 10 years.
Well history in being made in Saudi Arabia as the kingdom issues its first driver's licenses to women. Ten women received licenses today. Officials
though expect another 2,000 to become legal drivers in the next week. The world's only ban on women behind the wheel ends scheduled for June 24th.
As the Iran nuclear deal hangs in the balance after the U.S. walked away from it. Iran has informed U.N. officials it plans to boost its uranium
enrichment capacity. The country's nuclear chief says the agreement is still in the best interest of the region and the world.
Meanwhile, right now Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is trying to rally European support against that Iran deal. He has just arrived at
the Elysee Palace. You see the shots here, for a meeting with the French President Emmanuel Macron. Melissa Bell in Paris for you. Macron not
likely to be particularly receptive to this anti-Iran tour, is he? We are well aware of where he stands, posted that meeting with President Trump at
the White House just a month or so ago.
MELISSA BELL, CNN PARIS CORRESPONDENT: But what we will be very keen to hear this afternoon when he gets up to speak alongside Benjamin Netanyahu,
Becky, at that press conference. We're expecting a little bit later on is one month on from that announcement of what he thought was a plan that
might save the deal, the sort of wider talking around the issues with Iran, of its role in the region, and its ballistic missile program, does he still
believe that that has a hope? Does he still believe that the Iran deal can be saved? It's under political pressure, not just from Teheran as you
said, but also from Benjamin Netanyahu who wants to see it scrapped. It's under economic pressure, Becky. Peugeot yesterday became the latest
European company to say, look, we're not going to risk it and we're going to see what negotiations we can make with Washington to avoid secondary
sanctions. And that is the real danger, that the trade upon which the continued survival of this deal depends might just evaporate without the
Europeans being able to do anything about it -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Melissa Bell is in Paris for you. Melissa, thank you. It is 5:43, that's 7:34 here in the UAE. Still to come, you're watching CONNECT
THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson.
You wouldn't expect a butcher to tell you to go vegan. Right? Or a used car salesman, convince you to hop on a bike. So why does the guy who makes
iPhones say he wants us to, well, put them away? Find out in CNN's exclusive interview. That's next.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TIM COOK, APPLE CEO: Maybe they could do it less.
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ANDERSON: On your marks, get set, go. Some of the world's biggest companies in a neck-in-neck sprint to be the first to cross the finish line
and be worth $1 trillion. Yes, $1 trillion. Well, Apple leading the pack now so close it can almost touch it. CNN's Laurie Segall catching up with
the man who runs a company that is as rich as a country. And you may be very surprised to hear what Tim Cook wants us to use his stuff his company
makes a lot less.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Normally at this developer's conference, you are trying to get people to pick up their phone
more and more, and you guys announced a tech addiction tool that will almost help us limit our screen time.
COOK: You know, we've never been focused on usage as a key parameter. And we're rolling out great tools to both make people aware of how much time
they are spending and the apps they are spending them in. But also, how many times they pick up their phone. How many notifications they get. You
know, empowering people with the facts will allow them to decide themselves how they want to cut back.
SEGALL: Tell me about your own tech habits?
COOK: Yes. I've been using it. And I have to tell you I thought I was fairly disciplined about this, and I was wrong. When I began to get the
data, I found I was spending a lot more time than I should.
SEGALL: Like where?
COOK: Well, I don't want to give you all the apps, but just too much. And ask themselves if they are picking up their phone 10 times an hour or 20
times an hour, maybe they could do it less.
SEGALL: So interesting. Because there's this idea of who is control, man or machine. You believe that we as human beings, we can control.
COOK: I absolutely do. I don't subscribe to the machines taking over the world, and I don't worry about that. I worry much more about people
thinking like machines.
SEGALL: Do you think that tech companies are in a position right now where they can self-regulate with the more sticky issues?
COOK: Well, that's a bit -- that's a big topic. Generally, for me, I'm not a big fan of regulation. I think self-regulation is the best. But
when it's not working, and in some cases, it's not working, you have to ask yourself, so what form of regulation might be good? And I think that it's
a fair question that many of our people asking at this point.
SEGALL: What kind you think isn't working?
COOK: Well, I think the privacy thing has gotten totally out of control, and I think most people are not aware of who is tracking them, how much
they are being tracked, and sort of the large amounts of detailed data that are out there about them.
SEGALL: Do we, as users, just have to reinvasion the idea of privacy?
COOK: No. To me, and we feel this very deeply, we think privacy is a fundamental human right. So that is the angle that we look at it. Privacy
from an American point of view is one of these key civil liberties that defined what it means to be American.
SEGALL: It's a fundamental human right. Do you think the last year has shown that that fundamental human right could be under attack?
COOK: I think it has been under attack. And we've been saying that for quite some time.
SEGALL: Just this morning, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who refused to bake a cake in celebration of a same-sex couple. As a
leader in the community, as Apple has, you know, continuously stood in front of LGBTQ rights, what's the reaction?
[11:50:02] COOK: Well, I haven't read the opinion. And so, I reserve the right to read that and deeply understand it before a comment on it. But in
terms of the general topic, we believe that everybody should treat everybody else with dignity and respect. And that's how we run our
company. That's what we expect of each other, and that per tapes to all communities including the LGBTQ community.
SEGALL: You said today that there are people from over 70 different countries here.
SEGALL: Are you concerned at all with a lot of those stricter immigration policies?
COOK: Yes. I think my view on DACA is the Congress needs to fix DACA, and fix DACA to me means allow everyone to stay in the country and stop this
ridiculous discussion that people brought here as kids shouldn't be allowed to stay here.
SEGALL: I know that there is this fear of the impact on consumers and will iPhone prices go up if there's an escalated trade war. I'd be curious to
know, I know you said you are optimistic before, are you still optimistic?
COOK: I am, I am very optimistic. Because no one will win from that. It will be a lose-lose, and I think that when the facts are so clear like
that, I think that both parties will see that and be able to work things out.
SEGALL: Do you think that if that were to occur that iPhone prices could go up?
COOK: I don't think that iPhone will get a tariff on it, is my belief.
ANDERSON: TIM COOK, live from Abu Dhabi. This is CONNECT THE WORLD.
Up next, risking it all to survive. A journey unaccompanied minors face to Europe. A feature film inspired by their trip, tonight, is your parting
shots. Coming up.
ANDERSON: In tonight's parting shots, a tough couple of days for migrants in Europe, but today in Hungary, Parliament could be moving closer to
imprisoning people who were held asylum seekers, or illegal immigrants. While Italy's new interior minister says his country won't be Europe's
refugee camp anymore and wants to send back recent arrivals. Well, all of this is as a hundred people are feared dead after a boat headed to Europe
sank off the coast of Tunisia. And unaccompanied minors are among the most vulnerable groups as this BAFTA nominated short film lays out.
VIKA EVDOKIMENKO, FILMMAKER, "AAMIR": I am the director, co-writer, and co-producer of "Aamir", which is a short film about a Kurdish boy from
Mosul who ends up losing his home and being separated from his family only to find himself stranded alone in the largest unofficial refugee camp in
[11:55:06] We first went to the Calais Jungle in February of 2016, and it was one of the most miserable places I've ever been to. At the time, 2015
and 2016, there were 170,000 unaccompanied refugees in Europe, and the figure hasn't gone down. So, what we wanted to explore was how was the
child getting into this situation and how despair becomes anger in someone so young. We went and spoke to around a dozen children from countries all
over Africa and the Middle East. They were abused by smugglers. Their journeys had taken up to a year to reach Europe. They had suffered
enormous trauma as a result of these journeys. The moment that I felt was most important in the film, Aamir has been in the camp for a while, and he
has just met Caitlin who is a British volunteer.
CAITLIN, BRITISH VOLUNTEER: You, all right?
EVDOKIMENKO: Incredibly kind and generous, but utterly overstretched and lacking in time, and she tells him, oh, I can't help you right now. But I
can't give you this door. He needs a door for his shelter. I can't give you this door at this moment, and instead she gives him a hug. The small
kindness awakens all the memories in Aamir, and it comforts him in the moment. But it's also utterly devastating because it reminds him of
everything that he has lost.
For children like Aamir, I really hope that the environment in which they will arrive into in Europe changes, become more much understanding of the
bravery of these kids and their resilience in making these journeys, and the necessity to try and help them integrate and thrive in our societies.
ANDERSON: I'm Becky Anderson, that was CONNECT THE WORLD. From the team working with me here and those working around the world, thank you for
watching. "QUEST EXPRESS" up next.