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GEORGE HOWELL, HOST, CNN: From people being locked up and separated in America to migrants being barred from Italy and then shipped off to Spain, a tale of two immigration stories, life and death consequences. We're covering all angles.
ROSEMARY CHURCH, HOST, CNN: Plus, tit for tat. India strikes back with tariffs of its own on dozens of U.S. goods.
HOWELL: And Mexico shocked the world with an upset win over Germany. World Cup coverage continues next. We are live from CNN world headquarters in Atlanta. We want to welcome our viewers all around the world. I am George Howell.
CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. This is CNN Newsroom.
And we begin with immigration debates playing out across the globe. In the United States outrage is growing as thousands of undocumented children get separated from their parents after crossing the border illegally. It's a result of the Trump administration's recently implemented zero tolerance policy.
HOWELL: In the meantime, in Europe, Spain is considering the asylum requests of hundreds of newly rescued migrants who endured a grueling journey across the Mediterranean.
And in Germany, immigration is front and center as Chancellor Angela Merkel is under pressure to adopt a more isolationist's policy.
On Sunday, U.S. Democratic lawmakers toured some of the immigration facilities housing undocumented immigrants. And after that they called the practice of separating families un-American.
CHURCH: Our Diane Gallagher also went inside one of the centers and we want you to take a listen to how she described it.
DIANE GALLAGHER, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: I am in McCowan, Texas. Behind me there you see the Rio Grande Valley centralize processing center. They have a greater intake when it comes to processing undocumented people coming into the United States than any other in Texas. And as it stands right now under this new zero tolerance policy from
the Trump administration they at right now since that policy went into effect say that 1,174 children have been separated from their families while leaving this facility just since that policy went into effect.
Now I went inside and I took a tour myself. And look, we should go ahead and say, and this was a tour guided by border patrol agents. So we saw what they wanted us to see in this case, but we did get a chance to talk to people who are being held in what I can really only describe is cages. We're talking about 12 foot chain link fences here. Some of them housing single adult males, others housing single adult females.
And then you go into a warehouse room where you see families that are together, younger children are with either a father in one sort of pen area or a mother in another sort of pen area there.
You see also we had a pen inside where there were so many young boys. Now some of them were undocumented minors, we're told, others were teenagers they were keeping out of those family units.
But at this facility they are only here for they're supposed to be maximum 72 hours, and some of the people I spoke with told me they've been here four or five days. But this is a temporary facility. They move on to either federal court if you're an adult or under the zero tolerance policy, the children move on to a government holding area or group home or some other facility to hold them until they can either, a, be reunited back with their parents, or, b, figure out what the next step is.
Now when I spoke to a few people in here one woman, a 24-year-old from Guatemala and she had her 1-year-old daughter with her, she had been separated from the group that she came across the border with, she said she that was unaware of the zero tolerance policy and she started to cry saying that it just been a very difficult journey here, and she was worried about the people that she came with that she felt like she'd been left behind and separated.
There's some high emotion in there. A lot of the children, those unaccompanied minors that I spoke to, they told me they were there by themselves and they were happy to be out of the elements, one boy said. But they are just kind of sitting there and it's a little sad to see young children, three, four, or five years old with their father or mother just sitting on a concrete floor or metal bench while they have these mattresses that are piled up in these 12-foot chain link pens.
[03:05:03] So the senators came down here as well touring, they are touring another facility in another part of Texas. They are trying to bring attention and awareness to see if they can put political pressure on the president to put an end to this policy or just to essentially say stop doing it because it's not a written law at this point.
CHURCH: Diane Gallagher with that report. And first lady, Melania Trump, made a rare statement on the policy to
weigh in on the immigration crackdown. The spokeswoman tell CNN Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws but also a country that governs with heart.
HOWELL: And we are also hearing from the former first lady, Laura Bush, also blasting the practice of separating families. In a scathing column in the Washington Post she compared it to the Japanese American internment camps during World War II.
She wrote this. "This zero tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral and it breaks my heart. Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in the deserts outside of El Paso."
CHURCH: And Europe's debate on immigration played out during a grueling journey for hundreds of migrants on the Mediterranean.
HOWELL: That's right. When they arrive in Valencia, Spain on Sunday after more than a week at sea, they celebrated by singing and dancing. They were rescued off of coast of Libya last week but were turned away from ports in both Malta and Italy. Spain will now review their requests for asylum.
Italy's interior minister made good on his party's promise to crack down on the influx of migrants.
For more on that let's bring CNN's Delia Gallagher following the story live from Rome. Delia, the question that I have for you, the government has clearly shifted to the right. Is it bringing a sense of satisfaction for people there to see instances like this where ships are turned away?
DELIA GALLAGHER, VATICAN CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, you know, George, it's interesting, there was a poll just on Saturday, an Italian poll that 59 percent of Italians supported this move by the interior minister and the new government and that's not just people of their party, the right wing party that also includes one in three left wing voters.
So there is a kind of broad support for what has just happened in this past week on the part of this new government, and I think that focus, George, is on Europe and trying to change E.U. regulations and trying to put this discussion at the center of the E.U. meetings which will happen at the end of June.
Already Prime Minister Conte met with the French President Macron on Friday and he will be meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel later today. So, the sentiment here, George is, yes, there is support for what the government has done because it will, they think and they hope, forward the discussion in Europe. George?
HOWELL: I ask you this question, so clearly we understand the prevailing political mood among politicians there in Italy which is not in line with the Vatican, the pope's message of reaching out with an open hand to people in need, does religion if at all present a moral dilemma for people?
GALLAGHER: Well, certainly the pope has been very outspoken in terms of accepting migrants for all countries. I think he recognizes since he has said that there has to be a political solution to this, but obviously he's the pope and so he sides on the humanitarian part.
And certainly in discussions here in Italy, you will hear a lot about the need for welcoming immigrants and the humanitarian issue, the moral issue if you want, but equally it's the politicians that have to deal with the influx and the pressure that puts socially and economically.
So, for most people here it has become a discussion about European regulations and Europe sort of taking their responsibility as well, and indeed other European partners say that the regulations need to be looked at again in terms of quotas. You have countries like Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland they don't want to take in their quotas.
There are number of discussions particularly on the Dublin regulation that's the rule that says that the country that the immigrants land is, that's the country that is responsible for them. So obviously that puts a great amount of pressure on countries like Italy where they first arrive.
So those are discussions that are going to be happening at the European level later on this month, George.
HOWELL: Delia Gallagher, thank you so much for your reporting and the perspective on it. We'll stay in touch with you.
[03:09:55] The immigration policy debate is also threatening the German Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition. Her Bavarian partners the Christian Social Union will decide later on Monday on a plan to limit immigration at the German border.
CHURCH: Germany's interior minister wants Germany to be able to reject migrants who have already registered in another E.U. state. Mrs. Merkel opposes any move that would reverse her open door policy.
For more on this we turn to Atika Shubert who joins us now from Berlin. So Atika, just how dangerous is this proving to be for Angela Merkel politically and how likely is it that her open door policy will be changed in the end?
ATIKA SHUBERT, CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, she's already made compromises on her open door policy, but what the current dispute is about, really, is what seems to be a minor point, but it really has wider E.U. repercussions and that is her interior minister, Horst Seehofer, wants to be able to turn away any asylum seekers that already put in their application status in another E.U. country, but specifically at the border.
And the reason that's important, of course, is the E.U. has this borderless system and if Germany starts to unilaterally start turning away people at the border then Merkel is afraid that other countries will start doing the same.
And so what we are waiting to find out today is whether or not Seehofer will actually put out what he is calling his migration master plan independently, unilaterally of Angela Merkel. She has previously said she did not want him to put it out. Now if he does put out this plan, it puts her in a very awkward position, she either has to back down or she's going to have find a way to dismiss her interior minister, which could threaten her coalition.
And just to give, put into perspective just how solid this coalition is, you know, she -- this Christian Social Union and the Christian Democrats under Merkel have been together for 70 years and they've often met together, they caucus together. So to have this kind of rupture is very serious but it's not clear at this point whether it actually threatens her as chancellor. We'll have to wait and see how the meeting turns out. It's going to start in about an hour and then a few hours after that we do expect a press statement from Seehofer.
CHURCH: Well, we'll be watching for that, of course, but is there any way to gauge at this point how much support there is for this new plan?
SHUBERT: Well, I think there is a lot of support from the public to crack down on immigration. There is no doubt that sort of public opinion has turned against the open doors policy that Merkel had. Initially it was welcomed, in fact, there was a whole term around it called willkommen culture, a welcoming culture to asylum seekers, but over time it's clear that the public felt that Germany was more and more overburdened, and now it does seems, according to the latest polls that they support more of the plan that has been proposed by the interior minister.
However, very few people also want to see a new election, which could happen if the coalition breaks up. So, the real question is how much damage is this going to do to Merkel, would it cause a rupture of the coalition. I think one thing to keep in mind here is that the Bavaria is going to have its own election, regional election in October, which is one reason we are seeing this ratchet up at this point in time, Rosemary.
CHURCH: All right, many thanks to our Atika Shubert keeping an eye on those matters from Berlin where it is nearly 9.15 in the morning. Many thanks.
HOWELL: Well, let's talk more about this with James Davis. James the dean of the school of economics and political science at the University of St. Gallen live in Switzerland with us this hour. It's good to have you with us, James. Immigration, certainly the topic at hand.
JAMES DAVIS, DEAN, UNIVERSITY OF ST. GALLEN: Good morning, George.
HOWELL: Let's start here in the United States. There are images, we have this image that is surely shocking the world, this little girl screaming, terrified, separated from her parents. Surely there has been a great deal of push back, but the question here, James is this. President Trump has stated that he doesn't like the optics like that, he doesn't like the images of these family separations but do you get a sense that he is in fact counting on images like this, this optics of separations to work in his favor in the long one to put pressure on Democrats to work with him?
DAVIS: Well, I think the president is clearly weaponizing children to reach some kind of political goals, its goals vis-a-vis, the Democrats in Congress, its goals vis-a-vis, Latin American countries. He is trying to deter further immigration; he is trying to force the Democrats into a corner to solve a problem of his own creation.
And it's a policy that has the Catholic bishops in the United States have pointed out is immoral. It's a policy, as Laura Bush has pointed out reminds us of the worst periods of our history.
[03:15:00] And I think your comparative perspective, you know, comparing that American debate with that in Europe suggests that we really are in a period that looks a lot like the 1930s or 1940s when countries were following narrow national interests instead of thinking about how to solve a problem collectively.
And it shows once again what the costs are of a loss of American leadership, if we had American leadership in pursuit of multilateral solution to what is basically a global problem, we might be in a different place than we are now.
HOWELL: Here in the United States immigration has certainly been a topic that has been discussed and debated for decades, I guess at this point the question, greater question to what end do we go to solve that problem, a question that people are trying to figure out. The first lady of the United States is also--
DAVIS: Well, it means that, George, that--
HOWELL: Sure, go ahead.
DAVIS: No, George, I was going to say, I mean, that the problem is, of course, that, you know, just solving the symptom, which is immigration, is not going to be a long-term solution. What we have to do is solve the problem and the problem is of course the lack of perspective for people in the global south.
DAVIS: We have people in Latin America fleeing under development, fleeing poor governance, fleeing civil wars, and we have people leaving Africa and the Middle East for the same reasons. And so this calls out for a global multilateral solution, and the only way we could get that is through the enlightened American leadership.
The president of the United States historically has used the levers of American power to create a consensus in pursuit of the global good, but we have now who is president using the levers of the American power to create a narrow solution for the United States and that's what I think is at the heart of all of this unraveling of the rule based order that the president seems to be all too willing to turn his back on.
HOWELL: All right. I want to ask you this question very briefly and then I want to get on to Europe. The first lady of the U.S. she's also weighed in, essentially saying that the laws should be obeyed but she hates to see children separated from their families, do you see that statement in contrast to the president or not?
DAVIS: Yes, I think -- I mean, the first lady has shown time and again that she is willing to stake out a somewhat independent position, and whether this is a subtle way of indicating her descent from the president's position or perhaps a subtle attempt to soften the image of the president, I can't say.
But I mean, I think she speaks for all Americans when she says that it breaks our heart to see children torn away from their parents to make a political point.
HOWELL: I also want to talk about what's happening in Europe, the ships delivering migrants to Spain turned away from Italy and Malta. Is there a concern that the anti-immigrant sentiment is growing stronger with far right governments gaining ground as we've seen in Italy, and how is the E.U. to handle that?
DAVIS: Yes. I mean, the situation is somewhat similar. What you have is a populist elements in these countries, using the immigration crisis to create fear, to stoke fear in public, to turn politics into a question of identity rather than problems, and that leads to the kinds of outcomes we are seeing.
And it's threatening the future of the European Union and it's not solving the problem. It's just turning away a ship from Italy and sending it to Spain, it's not going to keep further ships from coming from Africa. What we need a solution, that requires leadership.
I'm suggesting that it requires also American leadership because historically we've seen that the only times we get these kinds of solutions is when the Americans are fully engaged, in pursuit of a common agenda, the common good and not a narrow American agenda, and using all the levers of national power to get there.
And what do we need to do, we need something to have like a global Marshall Plan. We need to create perspective for people in the global south so that they don't have to leave with their children looking for a better future. People don't want to take on these journeys to risk their lives and the lives of their children to try and get out of a difficult situation they must rather stay where they are, but to do so they need some perspectives.
And that's the agenda, that's what the European Union needs to focus on, not just dividing up the number of refugees that are coming and deciding who will take them in but rather addressing the root cause of the problem, and that is under development, poor government governance and corruption in Africa.
HOWELL: James Davis, thank you today for the perspective. We'll keep in touch with you.
There are growing fears of a global trade war. The latest action planned in response to U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum.
CHURCH: The U.S. president's lawyer he's no fan of the special counsel, in fact, he now wants the investigators to be investigated. We will explain why when we come back.
[03:19:58] HOWELL: Plus, Mexico defeated the reigning World Cup champions. Germany's loss surprises some. Stay with us.
CHURCH: Here's a sure thing. People will be talking about Mexico's defeat of Germany for some time to come. But Monday's game may give fans more to focus on.
HOWELL: Let's break it down now with CNN's Kate Riley joining us this hour. And you know, let's talk about that upset first. A lot of people caught by surprise here.
KATE RILEY, SPORT ANCHOR, CNN: Yes, very much so. It wasn't the only upset of the day. Of course, Brazil's result was huge. We will talk about Germany's defeat in just a moment.
Going back to Brazil, it was first time in 40 years they didn't win the World Cup opener. But what a huge setback for the reigning world champion, Germany as you mention there, they were beaten in their very first game at Russia 2018 by Mexico, and the tournament's biggest shock so far, the four-time winners had won their first game at the last seven World Cups, but it's fair to say they really did meet their match against El Tricolor on Sunday in Moscow.
[03:24:59] Germany fans expect success from their team, but here they faced a rather passionate Mexican side desperate to make their mark on the tournament. After years of under achievement it went down to PSV Eindhoven Hirving Lozano who put them ahead and then they started to believe this was the roller coaster of emotions for the fans inside the stadium.
To increase his free kick frequently kept out by the Mexican keeper just are going for just supportive there. Germany peppered their opponent's goal but to no avail since USA '94. The Mexicans have gone out to the last 16 stadium every World Cup.
You wonder to what extent that has eroded self believe, but they held firm here and when you see they're also leading score the most famous player having Hernandez reacting like this to the final whistle where you can see all the raw emotion over everyone, Germany as well as the Mexican players. Yes, what a moment for them.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JAVIER HERNANDEZ, FOOTBALL PLAYER, EL TRICOLOR (through translator):
Emotional, very emotional. We felt a lot of positivity and basically a lot of happiness. Also what I felt and what the majority felt is that this is simply a step, we are not going to feel like we deserve the World Cup, we must be very calm, keep an even keel and starting tomorrow we have to get back to work.
JULIAN DRAXTER, FOOTBALL PLAYER, PARIS SAINT-GERMAIN: They defended very well today. Normally they try to attack earlier, but today they were waiting a little bit for us, and I think it was clever because after that they had a few good counter attacks and so that's why they scored in the first half.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RILEY: It's huge and it's a shock but it's worth reiterating, it's just one game. We have a long--
RILEY: Yes, we have a long way to go.
CHURCH: And looking forward, we know of course on Monday there are three matches. Who are the favorites? We know your favorites.
RILEY: Yes, that's obvious. The favorite is probably Belgium, they were probably going to do really well tomorrow. There will be lots of support for England in the office on Monday. We are going to check out the games on Monday for you, the 2002 semifinalist, South Korea, and actions against Sweden, like I mention Belgium.
One of the dark horse favorites will play against the tournament for the first time in Panama so plenty to talk about there, while England will make it much anticipated debut in Russia 2018 when they face Tunisian group.
That England's court comes into this tournament with a new set of expectation. Harry Kane, of course, you know him as the top striker in the English Premier League and he will be leading out his country as the youngest captain that England has ever seen in at the World Cup. Of course he scored his 100th EPL goal this season, so yes, he's doing quite well for himself.
So it's a new look at the three lines here, this is Gareth Southgate first major tournament as manager. The England boss played two games at the World Cup in '98 including against Tunisia. They won 2-nil that day so he will be looking to repeat history, but honestly after what we've seen this weekend, who knows?
CHURCH: It keeps it interesting.
RILEY: It does.
CHURCH: Leaving the upset, right? RILEY: Yes.
CHURCH: It's not predictable.
RILEY: I know. Our predictions leads are out the window, all our brackets are broken so we start again from scratch.
CHURCH: Yes, absolutely. Kate, thank you so much.
HOWELL: Thanks, Kate.
CHURCH: I appreciate it.
Well, major trading partners are planning to hit back at the United States. Coming up, the latest fallout from President Trump's steel and aluminum tariffs.
HOWELL: Plus, Columbia has chosen new president who is against some of the peace deals that ended the longest Civil War in Latin America. More on that story ahead as CNN newsroom pushes on.
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HOWELL: Live around the world this hour, you are watching "CNN Newsroom" live from Atlanta. I'm George Howell.
CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. Let's update you now on the main stories we have been following this hour. U.S. Democratic lawmakers are calling on the Trump administration to end its practice of separating undocumented families at the border with Mexico.
A group of senators and representatives toured several processing centers in South Texas on Sunday. Children have been separated from their parents as a result of the Trump administration's zero-tolerance crackdown on illegal immigration.
HOWELL: The first lady of the United States, Melania Trump, has weighed in on this issue with her spokeswoman. She said that she, quote, hates to see families separated. And the former first lady, Laura Bush, also penned a scathing column in The Washington Post, calling the practice of separating families immoral and cruel.
CHURCH: Hundreds of rescued migrants celebrated their arrival in Valencia, Spain on Sunday. About 630 migrants mainly from sub-Saharan Africa have been turned away from ports in Malta and Italy. Spain says all the migrants will have 45-day permits to stay and their asylum requests will be reviewed.
China and India are taking retaliatory action in the escalating trade battle with the United States. China says it will target American agriculture products, cars, and seafood with tariffs beginning July 6th.
HOWELL: And India is moving ahead with proposed tariffs on 30 U.S. products that will equal the value of tariffs on India's steel and aluminum. For more on this, let's go to Matt Rivers, joining us in Beijing. And Matt, officials here in the United States are trying to avoid that word trade war, but the question is, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it might be a trade war. Is that the perspective from China?
MATT RIVERS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, China has no qualms about calling this a trade war. In fact, that was in the language that the Commerce Ministry put out when they announced the $50 billion in retaliatory tariffs against American imports just a couple of hours after the U.S. made their tariffs official on Chinese imports.
The Commerce Ministry specifically said that the United States has started a trade war. So the Chinese government is not backing down, even if the officials in the United States don't really want to use that term. The Chinese government very much playing the victim card here, portraying the U.S. as protectionist, portraying the U.S. as going down this road of tariffs that are going to harm the global economy, and so they are more than willing to use the trade war term.
I think the big question though, George, is where does it go from here? Because at this point, there is no indication that either side is going to back down from this $50 billion in tariffs that each one is threatening with $34 billion starting on July 6th from both sides. Neither side is willing to back down.
[03:34:57] And so the fear that people have amongst those people that we speak with here in the business community, in the American business community, the Chinese business community, the fear is where does it go from there. We know that the Trump administration has threatened to put $100 billion in additional tariffs on Chinese goods. We don't know if that's still the plan, if that's actually going to happen, but the fear is, OK, we got $50 billion from both sides, but does it get worse, does it spiral out of control?
HOWELL: Let's talk about where people will feel the most punch in either country, as certainly China angling to be a leader in the world of artificial intelligence. Let's talk about that. And also here in the United States, who feels the punch the worst with the tariffs that are being considered here?
RIVERS: Yeah, I mean, I think generally speaking, what economists will tell you is that $50 billion to each economy isn't actually that huge of a number -- you know, in terms of an impact on GDP. It's not going to have a huge impact. But what both countries are doing here is targeting politically sensitive area.
So in China, you got the Americans targeting industries that are part of this "Made in China 2025" plan. it's a government initiative that provides loans and subsidies to key area that the government feels are growth areas that they want to dominate in the future like A.I., robotics, I.T. and the like. So, that is what America is targeting.
China, when talking about American imports, they are looking at states where they think they can have a political impact. So, take soybean, for example. Eight of the top 10 producing states of soybean that come here to China, those are states that voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
Farmers vote. They are politically organized. China knows that. So they might be an authoritarian style communist dictatorship at this point, but they also have a pretty good understanding of the way democracy works, and so they are targeting their sanctions not only with the economics involved but also with political considerations as well.
HOWELL: So China apparently targeting these red states with a punch. Matt, thank you so much for that reporting.
CHURCH: And let's bring in Nikhil Kumar, CNN's bureau chief in New Delhi, following the story from there. Good to see you. What is interesting here, of course, is that India has moved ahead with tariffs of its own on U.S. goods that are of equal value to the U.S. tariffs on Indian products. What's the message here and what is India's likely next move?
NIKHIL KUMAR, CNN NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF: So the message, Rosemary, is quite clear. The U.S. is hitting India. The U.S. measures are going to hit India to the tune of about $241 million. That's according to India. And so New Delhi is hitting back with tariffs worth about $241 million as well on 30 American products, everything from walnuts, apples to some U.S.-made motorbikes, some U.S. chemicals and some metal products.
And the message is, you hit us, we hit you back. The number itself is much smaller than the number we have been talking about when it comes to China or other countries, but it's the symbolism that really matters here. India and the U.S. are two countries that have been growing increasingly close in recent years. Successive U.S. presidents have sort to cultivate this relationship.
They see India as a potential foil (ph) to China. And what this tariff has done, what the retaliatory tariff with India has done is that it introduced a degree of tension into a very, very important part of the this relationship which is trade.
President Obama, when he visited India near the end of his term, the U.S. at that time was talking about doubling the amount of trade it does with India in coming years. And yet here we are right now with India retaliating to U.S. measures and issuing a warning really in a document that is submitted to the WTO last week, saying that the U.S. duties goal further (ph), India will have no choice but to do the same. Rosemary?
CHURCH: So, how significant is this trade relationship between India and the U.S. and how much damage will this tit for tat action cause in the end?
KUMAR: Well, right now, the number, as I said, is quite small. And so it's less about the specific number itself, $241 million, but more about the larger geopolitical messaging. This is a relationship, as I said, that has been growing deeper for years and years now, right from President Clinton to George W. Bush all the way to Barack Obama. India and the U.S. have been cooperating in a variety of ways and, of course, trade. And so this is quite awkward. India wanted to -- from public commons and the local press and ministers here, India wanted to resolve this through dialogue, but clearly New Delhi seems to have decided that it has been left with no option but to respond like for like.
The U.S. is hitting it with its tariffs, so it must hit back. As I said, that introduces a degree of tension into a relationship that everybody expected to only grow deeper for a trade relationship that will everybody expected would only grow broader. In 2016, the U.S. sold about $40 billion worth of goods and services to India.
That number was only expected to continue growing. We don't know what is going to happen yet, what is going to happen next.
[03:39:59] But what we do know is that that narrative of a good relationship that is only becoming better, that narrative has been interrupted by the actions of the Trump administration and by the actions of India in response to the U.S. policy. Rosemary?
CHURCH: We know you will keep a very close eye on seeing what comes next here from India. Nikhil Kumar, thank you for joining us from New Delhi just after 1:10, actually nearly 1:15 in the afternoon. Many thanks.
Later this week, the Trump administration is expected to announce the formal suspension of joint military drills with South Korea.
HOWELL: That's right. The drills were a key issue during the president's recent summit with North Korean leader. Mr. Trump tweeted this on Sunday, quote, holding back the war game during the negotiation was my request because they are very expensive and set a bad light during a good faith negotiation. Also quite provocative. Can start up immediately if talks break down which I hope will not happen.
President Trump is also facing criticism for his his compliments of Kim Jong-un. He now insists that he was only kidding with those comments, but, you know, he has expressed the admiration and people have noticed it.
CHURCH: Yeah, we hear that line quite a bit from Mr. Trump. Americans have a choice about how they view their commander-in-chief. CNN's Brian Todd reports North Koreans do not, when it comes to Kim.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Very, very good.
BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): President Trump these days is full of admiration for Kim Jong-un for his strength as a leader and the deference he shown by his people.
TRUMP: He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same. TODD (voice over): The president later tried to clean up the comment by saying he was joking.
TRUMP: I'm kidding.
TODD (voice over): But North Koreans aren't laughing, unless they are told to.
GREG SCARLATOIU, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, COMMITTEE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN NORTH KOREA: Just like the grandfather and the father, Kim Jong-un, perhaps even more so has ruled through fear, the politics of fear.
SCOTT (voice over): That's especially evident in this propaganda video Kim's regime just produced to highlight the supreme leader's summit with President Trump in Singapore, showing the kind of displays of affection for Kim, that President Trump says he appreciates.
The video has a classic signature of a North Korean production, adoring crowd seen Kim off at the Pyongyang Airport. Dramatic music. And upon his triumphant return, women in colorful robes, top officials, even normally stoic generals practically weeping at the sight of him. But analysts say what you are witnessing is not spontaneous devotion, it's carefully choreographed fielding (ph).
JAMES PERSON, JOHNS HOPKINS SCHOOL OF ADVANCED INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: Mass (ph) early in the morning and standing around for hours with these flags. When the moment comes, they -- everyone knows exactly what to do, to wave the flags or their flowers.
SCOTT (voice over): In one of the first propaganda films released after he took over from his father, Kim Jong-un is seen departing on a boat. The crowd of soldiers and civilians weep hysterically, then do one better, racing waist deep into the water to see him off.
SCARLATOIU: If one does not clap for Kim Jong-un, that person is sure to be in trouble.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): Why was your applause so weak?
SCOTT (voice over): In a 2016 documentary called "Under the Sun," a Russian filmmaker captured behind the scenes footage of a North Korean propaganda film being made. The minders often did not know the cameras were rolling at factories, dance classes, and elsewhere. Minders are shown prodding, scolding film subjects to be more zealous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over): Still too gloomy. Do it with more joy. You can do it more joyfully.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They would come to the scene, and would tell the people what they have to do, where they have to sit, how they have to sit, how they have to smile.
SCOTT (voice over): But experts say we shouldn't assume all this emotion is completely fake. Many North Koreans, they say, genuinely believe that their leader has god-like greatness because they have been indoctrinated in it. PERSON: The very first things that they are taught in school is to revere the Kim family and they are taught about the sacrifices of the Kim family to the state, not just the individual Kim, but the entire family going back generations.
SCOTT (voice over): A system that thanks to America's existing democratic system, no president of the United States could ever re- create.
(on camera): While the crime of not showing quite enough joy at a rally can be punishable with reeducation or jail time for the average North Korean citizen, for top officials, that kind of thing can be deadly. A top education official in North Korea was once executed by firing squad for showing a, quote, bad attitude at a gathering of the supreme peoples' assembly.
Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.
CHURCH: A social conservative opposed to the peace deal with FARC rebels is projected to be the next president of Columbia.
HOWELL: That person, Ivan Duque, won Sunday's presidential runoff by a landslide clinching about 54 percent of the vote. His opponent, Gustavo Petro, won about 41 percent. Duque later tweeted that he was ready for a power handover (ph).
CHURCH: No one won a majority in the first round of voting last month which prompted the runoff.
[03:45:04] Duque is opposed to the deal with FARC which was aimed at ending the civil war that ravaged Columbia for more than half a century.
HOWELL: Still ahead this hour, a high speed chase in the U.S. state of Texas ends in a terrible crash and some say it is a sign that border security needs to be stepped up. We'll have details. Stay with us.
HOWELL: In South Texas, at least five people have been killed in a high speed chase involving undocumented immigrants. A local sheriff says the vehicle suspected of smuggling immigrants failed to stop when a border patrol agent tried to pull it over. It sped off, lost control and then flipped over as police chased it.
CHURCH: Twelve people were ejected. Authorities say the crash demonstrates the need for better border security.
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MARION BOYD, SHERIFF, DIMMIT COUNTY, TEXAS: This is, I think, a perfect example of why our borders need to be secure. It endangers Americans lives as well as those people from Mexico or other countries coming here for whatever reason they are coming. So it is a major problem.
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CHURCH: Authorities say the driver is a U.S. citizen and is in custody. They say 12 of the 13 passengers were undocumented migrants.
HOWELL: The U.S. president's lawyer wants the investigators to be investigated. That's right. Rudy Giuliani telling CNN he believes the special counsel, Robert Mueller's, probe, has been tainted since the start. Mueller is investigating obstruction of justice and Russia's influence in the 2016 presidential election.
CHURCH: According to Giuliani, the probe is unethical because he says it was based on fired FBI Director James Comey's notes which Giuliani believes were illegally leaked. That, says Giuliani, is ground enough for an investigation.
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[03:50:00] RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: If you fail to recognize the crimes, unethical behavior of federal law enforcement officials, you are undermining our system of justice. If you call them out and you do something about it which the Justice Department hasn't done yet but has to, then you are reaffirming that no one is above the law and that's all we want here.
We want the Mueller probe to be investigated the way the Trump administration has been investigated. We would like to see a report with the conclusions. And we will find out then is it as bad as some people think or is it what I think or is it nothing?
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CHURCH: Meanwhile, a former high level FBI agent says he is willing to speak to the U.S. lawmakers about the 2016 election.
HOWELL: The man we are talking about here, you see, Peter Strzok, who was on the special counsel Robert Mueller's team but was removed for allegedly sending anti-Trump text messages. Those messages came to light in a government report on the FBI's handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton.
CHURCH: Trump supporters say those text messages prove the entire Mueller probe is biased against the administration. President Trump weighed in on Twitter, calling Strzok a, quote, sick loser.
All right, still to come here on "CNN Newsroom," a little boy learned about look but don't touch the hard way, and his parents get stuck with a six-figure bill.
CHURCH: We'll explain.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) IVAN CABRERA, CNN METEOROLOGIST AND WEATHER ANCHOR: I'm Ivan Cabrera checking in with your weather watch here across North America, looking at severe weather potential across the mid-section of the U.S. along the frontal boundary here but really the big story, not just the isolated storms, it will be the heat.
It's summer but temperatures well above average even for this time of year and we will have heat indices well into the 40s so it's going to be a quite something here. If you want cool air, well, it's rain- cooled air, tropically rain-cooled there. We are talking about a disturbance across the western gulf of Mexico of course this time of year.
Also hurricane season, so we monitor this quite carefully here but even if it doesn't get a name and it looks like it won't get its act together for that as far as organization, we don't really need it. Look at the rain that will get pumped in here, and you can appreciate some spin there as well. It looks like a broad low pressure area opposed to something more concentrated.
Right there we will have some wind. It will have plenty of rain from Corpus Christi heading up into Houston. If you are traveling across that part of the United States, keep in mid they have some delays there. Certainly it be bumpy once it get on the road.
Montreal looking at thunderstorms because you are impacted by frontal boundary that is kind of stalled out. So of the thunderstorms especially during the afternoon and evening could be on the heavier side with some hale, damage is one potential there.
[03:55:02] If you're stepping out to New York, look at that, temperatures in the mid 30s but nice and much cooler by the end of the week.
HOWELL: The next time you see a work of art or a statue, you might want to think twice before touching it. Here's why. A young boy in the U.S. state of Kansas accidentally toppled the statue with a six-figure price tag. The security camera caught the 5-year-old playing with the display during a wedding reception at a community center last month.
CHURCH: The sculpture suddenly came crashing down and the boy's parents were told they could be on the hook now for $132,000.
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SARAH GOODMAN, BOY'S MOTHER: Maybe this is like 800 or something. No, it's $132,000. I'm sorry. We're finished here.
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CHURCH: The child's parents say the statue was not secured properly, but the city says the artwork was not meant to be touched. And I am afraid when I look at that video as a parent, that is dangerous, that nearly crushed that little boy. So I would be arguing if I were the lawyer saying it wasn't secured properly and the city might be in trouble.
HOWELL: Yeah, a 5-year-old was there. You know, that can happen.
CHURCH: But, I mean, it looks it can be easily -- someone could have just knocked into that. I mean, look at that. That was an endangerment to this little boy. Anyway, we will see what happens.
HOWELL: Thank you so much for being with us for "CNN Newsroom." I'm George Howell.
CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. More news coming your way with Max Foster in London after a short break. You're watching CNN, the world's news leader. Have a great day.
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