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[08:00:07] KRISTIE LU STOUT, NEWS STREAM ANCHOR, CNN: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to News Stream. Unprecedented power,
Turkey's President extends his 15-year rule with the opposition warning that he's in now in charge without check. No judges or court cases, U.S.
President Donald Trump calls for immediate deportations as demonstrators rally in support of families split up at the border.
And two royals on tour, which is Prince William meets with the Jordan's Crown Prince Hussein on the first day of a historic trip to the Middle
East. Defiant, emboldened, and more powerful than ever, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been declared the winner of Sunday's snap
election. In doing so, he strengthened his grip in power in Turkey, winning the right to rule by decree, to intervene in the legal system and
impose a state of emergency.
These powers were established in a controversial referendum earlier this year. The opposition has accepted the results of the election, which also
saw the President's coalition, retain control of the parliament, but warned Turkey is now under single man rule. For more on the follow up from
Sunday's vote, Sam Kiley joins me live from the banks of the (Inaudible) in Istanbul.
Sam, Erdogan has extended his authority, expanded his powers at the same time. What does it mean for Turkey?
SAM KILEY, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, it means initially that he now has a democratic mandate, further to the democratic mandate he got last year from
forcing through that referendum, that did concentrate powers in the presidency, to act with those powers. Now the only beneficiaries, really,
in terms of the opposition to this whole process of being the HDP, mainly Kurd party, they have managed to win more than 10 percent of the vote,
which gives the Kurds some kind of vested interest in the political process in Turkey.
But for the rest of the opposition groups, this has been a very bad time indeed. (Inaudible), the main opposition candidate saying that Turkey is
under some kind of existential threat, nonetheless, though, as far as Mr. Erdogan supporters and 53 percent of the country voted for him, this is a
moment of great celebration, and that's what we saw last night, Kristie.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KILEY: Political ecstasy at the re-election Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. In their moment of glory, his supporters reveling in an
outright victory for the man who has led his country for the last 15 years, by claiming to have won almost 53 percent of the vote. He announced his
victory that avoided a presidential runoff before any official results had been published.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After thousands of his political opponents forcing through a change in the constitution, which consequence power in the house
and the presidency, and stifling the free press, this is what victory looks like to President Erdogan.
KILEY: Erdogan survived a coup two years ago. His follower's hope he'll stay in office long enough to lead the next generation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our nation has given me the mandate for the presidency, along with the people's alliance. A great responsibility has been placed
on our shoulders by our nation by these results.
KILEY: Some of the President's voters were almost incoherent with joy. A different scene at the headquarters of the opposition's main candidate,
Muharrem Ince, its leadership initially convinced that they had been robbed of a Presidential runoff, but their own count later confirmed the Erdogan
win, which was greeted by jubilant crowds in Ankara, and pretty soon Mr. Ince conceded defeat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And in the documents submitted to us by our officials are different, not significantly different than those announced by the
(Inaudible) the supreme electoral council. They're not such that they would change the results.
KILEY: Close to 60 million Turks were registered to votes. Erdogan said turnout was nearly 90 percent, and that his coalition had also won control
of the 600 seat parliament. He now has complete executive control of Turkey, the right to rule by decree, and to pick his own cabinet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Turkey did not only choose one President and 600 MPs, it changed the whole system of government. We will get this working fast
and perfectly.
KILEY: But for his opponents, this is a moment of political agony that holds little prospect that Erdogan can heal a nation that remains bitterly
divided.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[08:05:02] KILEY: Kristie, now Turkey of course, is prosecuting a war against the PKK, the Kurdish Workers Party inside Turkish territory and in
northern Iraq. It's also absorbed a huge number of Syrian refugees. Many people may well have voted with a small C, conservative. No change is
better than any kind of change that could risk stability in a country that is already under extreme pressure, Kristie.
STOUT: You mentioned Turkey's state number of overseas conflicts, highlighting the greater geopolitical impact of this vote that took place
over the weekend. (Inaudible) but also in a region, so what are your thoughts on the impact it's going to have on security in Iran, in Syria, as
well as the migrant crisis?
KILEY: Well, in many ways, Mr. Erdogan sees him as an heir to the ottoman tradition. And that means that Turkey is a central player, bridging as it
does east and west. So it has good relations with Iran, for example. They're involved with the Russian peace process and Iran on Syria, for
example, it is also a member of NATO.
So -- and it's working strategically to extend its influence into Africa. So in that context, Mr. Erdogan sees himself as very much a peacemaker and
a figure head, if you like, of small L liberal political Islam. He is an Islamist, but he's not an extremist. And that's the sort of position he's
trying to establish.
But in the shorter term, he does have this perennial problem with an insurgency from the Kurds in the southeast of the country, which he's
trying to push into neighboring territory. Whether that causes more instability or less, remains to be seen, Kristie.
STOUT: Five more years of President Erdogan, a number of challenges ahead. Sam Kiley reporting live from Istanbul, thank you. Donald Trump is
refusing to back down, despite facing massive fallout over his now reversed policy that separated children from their parents at the U.S. Mexico
border. The U.S. President is tweeting that anyone who enters a country illegally should be deported immediately with no judicial proceedings.
Abby Phillip reports from the White House.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ABBY PHILLIP, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Protests intensify as the Trump administration struggles to reunite the thousands of children still
separated from their parents. Democratic lawmakers touring detention centers at the border, blasting the conditions they saw inside.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a disturbing picture. There are children by themselves. I saw a six-month-old baby. They're all on concrete floors,
in cages. There is just no other way to describe it.
PHILLIP: But despite the public outcry, President Trump ramping up his hard line immigration rhetoric, suggesting that those who crossed into the
United States illegally should be sent back immediately without due process or an appearance before a judge. The New York Times reports that President
Trump complained to aides about why he could not just create an over- arching executive order to solve the problem. Those aides explained to him that immigration overhaul are beyond his powers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The problem with his executive order is it's in direct contradiction to the standing order and ruling from the judge in 2015. My
guess that stroke of a pen does not survive three weeks before this court overrules it.
PHILLIP: The President blaming Democrats for failing to pass immigration reform legislation last week, and calling his party to focus on immigration
in the fall, not now.
PRES. DONALD TRUMP (R), UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: I like the issue for the election too. Our issue is strong borders, no crime. Their issue is open
borders. Let MS-13 all over our country.
PHILLIP: President Trump's comments leaving Republicans confused on how to move forward.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I did talk to the White House yesterday. They say the President is still 100 percent behind us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know how in the world we're going to fix this in the short term. It's really a big mess.
PHILLIP: This as the Department Homeland Security and Health and Human Services revealed their plan to reunite immigrant families separated at the
border. Children will remain in custody of Health and Human Services based on the results of their parents' immigration proceedings. If the parent is
released, they can apply to be the child's sponsor, a process that could take weeks.
If the parent is deported, the child will be reunited before they leave the country. But it's still unclear who will link the parents with their
children. Backlash over the crisis hitting home, as Press Secretary Sarah Sanders was kicked out of a Virginia restaurant Friday night. Sanders,
firing back on Twitter, her actions say far more about her than about me.
I always do my best to treat people, including those I disagrees with respectfully, and will continue to do so. The owner of the Red Hen saying,
I explained that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty and compassion and cooperation. I said I'd like to
ask you to leave.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[08:10:08] PHILLIP: And here at the White House foreign policy's on the agenda, President Trump will host King Abdullah II of Jordan and Queen
Rania Abdullah here at the White House. Later this afternoon, he leaves for west Columbia, South Carolina where he's going to campaigning on behalf
of Governor McMaster. This is the eve of a runoff election in that state, Kristie.
STOUT: Abby Phillip there. Now, a group of lawmakers, they are expressing outrage over what they're seeing at these children's detention facilities.
Our Polo Sandoval joins me live from Los Fresnos, Texas outside one of these processing centers. And Polo, U.S. lawmakers, they've been touring
these, again, detention facilities. What have they seen firsthand?
POLO SANDOVAL, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: They have toured this facility behind me. We can't take you (Inaudible) gates here. Obviously, the officials
not allowing our cameras into said facility. But yes, Democratic lawmakers have been touring these kinds of locations all along the border, calling
for the expedited reunification of some of these separated children.
And this morning, we can tell you that that seems to be happening according to the information that has been put out by the U.S. government.
Approximately 538 children now reunited with their parents. These are kids that were separated due to the enforcement of President Trump's zero-
tolerance policy, but still there seems to be much more to be done at least another 2000 children still separated from their parents.
Officials saying that only about 17 percent of all of the children in the care of Health and Human Services were actually separated because of
President Trump's zero-tolerance policy, the rest of them have come across the U.S.-Mexico border, unaccompanied, Kristie. And it's important to
point that that is an issue that we have been following for many years, this trend of many of these families from the central American countries
mainly, send their children to the United States, hoping to send them away from the violence.
And of course, the poverty that has stricken those countries, but in the meantime, that's what we are seeing right now on the ground. Here in south
Texas again at this particular location that is considered by the federal government as the key processing and also reunification center for these
efforts.
STOUT: And ahead of the reunification of 2,000 children who are still awaiting that moment when they are returned to their parents, there were
reports of migrant children who are leaving these detention facilities. Are people not being responsible for these children even before the.
(CROSSTALK)
SANDOVAL: Yeah, actually what happened over the weekend here, not far from where we are, the city of Brownsville, Texas, this was a facility owned and
operated by southwest key programs, which is contracted by the government to take care of these children. We understand based on information coming
from officials that a 15-year-old Honduran boy walked off that facility here.
You may wonder why -- how that was possible. Well, that organization released a statement, saying that they are not a detention center. They
are simply a care facility for these children. So they are not allowed to even put their hands on these children, simply ask them to remain on the
premises, but those children are free to come and go, which brings up a very important issue.
If these kinds of private entities, these private caretaking organizations that are assuming responsibility for these children, then should they at
least have that authority to force these children to remain in place? So that is certainly part of the debate that is happening here. We can tell
you however, that that 15-year-old child, according to information from sources close to the investigation, did make it across the border to
Mexico.
We're told that this child is speaking to his relatives and is in the process of making his way back to his native Honduras.
STOUT: Yeah. Very good and very heartening to hear, but still it raises some serious questions about who is responsible for the safety of these
children. Polo Sandoval reporting live for us the U.S.-Mexico border. Thank you so much and take care. Now, E.U. meanwhile, they are talking
about the migrant crisis there.
And they are still bitterly divided on how to respond to large numbers of African and Asian migrants heading to Europe. Sixteen heads of state, they
held (Inaudible) weekend in Brussels, little sign of consensus though. All 28 member states will gather on Thursday to discuss the E.U.'s mechanism
for sharing migrants around the region.
All this is nearly 350 migrants are stranded on two boats in the Mediterranean with nowhere to go. It has been two weeks since Donald Trump
signed an agreement with Kim Jong-Un, the one in Singapore. Now the U.S. is getting ready to pus push North Korea on a timeline for carrying that
deal. We're going to have details on that live from Seoul next.
[08:15:01] Also ahead, Britain's Prince William is on a historic tour of the Middle East. We'll also be live in Jordan after the break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
STOUT: It's the beginning you have a new week here in Hong Kong. Welcome back. You're watching News Stream. Now as you recall, it was all hand
shakes and promises when Donald Trump and Kim Jong-Un signed that agreement in Singapore. And now the U.S. is about to give North Korea a timeline on
what it needs to make good on the pledge of complete denuclearization. A senior official says the U.S. will be able to see if North Korea will
operate in good faith.
Alexandra Field joins me now from Seoul with the latest. And Alex, the U.S. is planning to press for a denuclearization timeline. Is Pyongyang on
board with this?
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, look, Kristie, if any of this was easy to agree to, then presumably it would have been agreed to before
the summit ever happened, when you had that flurry of meetings which we (Inaudible) the U.S. officials and North Korean officials. So certainly,
the timeline is something that both sides are going to want to weigh in on explicitly.
They could have very different ideas about how the timeline works. None of that was spelled out in the so called comprehensive agreement, as President
Trump put it. That was signed with him and Kim Jong-Un in Singapore. All they essentially agreed to do was to work together toward denuclearization,
but they tasked the heavy lifting on that to their administration officials in the U.S. and to counterparts in North Korea.
We know that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will essentially be leading those efforts. But what it comes to between the U.S. and North Korea is
what denuclearization means, how quickly it actually can happen, to what extent North Korea is actually willing to do this, and how do go about
verifying this. So this top U.S. defense official says that the U.S. will have specific demands and that they will have a specific timeline when they
present their concept for implementation, says that there will also be data points, which means that the U.S. would be able to tell rather quickly
whether or not Pyongyang was following through and had any sort of goodwill intent here to make good on the declaration or the agreement rather that
was signed in Singapore, Kristie.
STOUT: And today is a key anniversary that's arguably at the center of all of these diplomatic flurries, 68 years since the start of the Korean War.
And North Korea is it set to return the remains of American soldiers who died in that war?
FIELD: Well look, one way that North Korea can show that it is making a good-faith effort in the aftermath of the summit would be to start to
return the remains of U.S. soldiers. That was part of the agreement that was made in Singapore. The administration in the United States is
expecting North Korea to follow through with the return of the remains of as many as 200 U.S. servicemen.
So the U.S. has done its part by sending about 100 coffins to the DMZ, waiting for remains that have to be delivered by North Korea from there.
These remains would likely be taken to an air bass here in South Korea, and then sent on to Hawaii, where you would do the DNA and forensic to
determine whether or not these are actually the remains of the U.S. service members.
[08:20:09] Of course, these could also be the remains of service members who fought alongside the United States in that war. This would be, again,
the kind of gesture that shows that North Korea is cooperating. But, Kristie, this is important, because for decades, families have waited for
this. But we should say that this is something that North Korea has done before.
They have returned remains in the past. Denuclearization is not something they have done before. So yes, this would be (Inaudible) from North Korea,
but obviously, the United States looking for a lot more cooperation on a lot of other fronts here.
STOUT: Got it. Alexandra Field reporting live from Seoul, thank you.
Now, President Trump's senior adviser and son in law Jared Kushner is meeting with leaders in the Middle East, but noticeably not with
Palestinian authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Kushner says that the U.S. is ready to talk with Mr. Abbas, but questions if the Palestinian leader is
committed to a peace deal with Israel. He also announced that the U.S. will soon reveal its peace plan for the Middle East.
Now meanwhile, Britain's Prince William is also testing his diplomatic skills in the Middle East. In fact, today the Prince is touring a
vocational training college in Jordan's capital city before departing for Tel Aviv. This is a historic trip for the Duke of Cambridge. It is the
first time a member of the royal family will pay an official visit to both Israel and the Palestinian territories.
Our Max Foster is travelling with the Prince. He joins me now from Aman. And Max, since you're joining us, you know, it's been such -- you know
number of events (Inaudible) very busy day for Prince William. How has he kicked off this historic five-day tour? What is he doing at this hour?
MAX FOSTER, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, he's about to arrive here. This is a vocational college, as you say, so Jordanian students being trained here,
but also Syrian refugees. And we saw also this morning how he went along to see some young children (Inaudible). They were also refugees from
conflict zones around Jordan.
Really emphasizing the amount of pressure on the country in dealing with a lot of refugees and trying to integrate them into the society here, and
also interesting to see Prince William with his Jordanian counterpart Prince Hussein.
We saw them last night watching a football match together. These are two young royals who will ultimately become kings who share an interest in
football. They both went to Sandhurst College as well. This is very much about establishing a relationship between the two countries going forward
for when they are kings, and also working with young people.
So that's why they come to these events, because they're ultimately the generation they're going to rule over. So it's interesting to see, but as
you say some delicate footwork being done here, the less contentious part of the trip here to Jordan. They will go on to Israel as well, but it's
interesting to see how they highlight causes, bringing attention to the refugee problem here in Jordan and showing that actually the U.K., the
royal family is shoulder to shoulder with Jordan, and this is an ongoing crisis when perhaps we might be focused on particular conflicts in the
Middle East crisis.
STOUT: This is a very worthy visit, a historic visit, a closely watched one in a politically charged region. Does the Prince plan to remain
apolitical throughout?
FOSTER: Well, what royals do is try to stay out of politics, of course. They're above politics, particularly constitutional royals like Prince
Hussein and Prince William. But they do emphasize a message through actions more than words. So when we take into account Israel, where he's
going on tonight. That's been a painstaking process, putting together a schedule, which balances all the interests within the region, (Inaudible).
So showing sympathy with countries and their causes and their issues, but not showing any favoritism as they go through it. So it's been an
intricate process working with officials in London in the Palestinian territories in Israel as well. And it's a big test, possibly the biggest
diplomatic test that Prince William ever had to face really. Going into these countries, and through his messaging not offending anyone, but also
re-enforcing the messages that he wants to when he gets there.
I think the overriding message there is the Israel-Palestinian tensions are ongoing. They haven't gone away, and we need to keep considering them and
thinking about them.
STOUT: Yes. It's a major diplomatic test for Prince William. You're there to cover it all for us. Max Foster, joining us live from Aman.
Thank you so much. We will talk again soon. And now to Saudi Arabia, where for the first time women are finally legally able to drive. The ban
was lifted on Sunday after years of campaigning. But for some, the jubilation of this hard-won freedom is tempered by last month's arrests of
Saudi rights activists, including some who fought for women's right to drive.
Jomana Karadsheh tells us why this long sought change is a key part of the kingdom's effort to modernize.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOMANA KARADSHEH, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: (Inaudible) has waited her entire life for this moment. And at the stroke of midnight, she was one of the
first women behind the wheel and we got to ride along. How does it feel? Has it sunk in yet?
[08:25:08] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I'm still having like a weird feeling that somebody is going to stop me, get arrested, you know?
KARADSHEH: Did you ever think this day would come?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, never, actually never, (Inaudible) I thought it would never happen.
KARADSHEH: But many around the country say they're in no rush to get on the road just yet. They want to wait and see how one of the most
conservative societies in the world will react and some just want to practice a bit more before making their way onto territory once reserved
only for men. It's been a long and rough journey.
Women who protested and defied the ban over the years were arrested, shunned by society. Some of these women will not have the chance to get
behind the wheel yet because they're behind bars, detained recently as part of a crackdown on human rights activists. Some feel it's perhaps a message
that in this kingdom change will only come from the top down.
Many here credit their young Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman with a wave of once unthinkable changes in the ultra country and his so-called vision
2030, an ambitious plan to modernize Saudi Arabia, diversifying its economy away from oil and bring more women into the workforce.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my, god where am I? Am I still in Jeddah, in Saudi Arabia? What's happening, because every time there's something,
(Inaudible) a new decree, something new (Inaudible) wow all of these changes all of a sudden?
KARADSHEH: For more than 40 years, (Inaudible) has campaigned for women's rights in Saudi Arabia. In 2013, she was one of the women who protested
the ban by driving. She was briefly detained.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm 64 right now, and to be honest, this is not done -- I didn't do all this for me. I did it for my kids and for my grandkids,
to make sure they live in more freedom and they have their rights. I never thought I would live through it.
KARADSHEH: Nasif, like many orders, wants to see an end to the repressive guardianship law, where women no matter how old or how young, can do some
basic things like travel or work without the consent of a male guardian.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the next step, I totally am so optimistic of getting rid of the guardianship. The driving is only a door opening to a
lot of other things.
KARADSHEH: For now though, it's about savoring this moment, Jomana Karadsheh, CNN Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
(END OF VIDEO CLIP)
STOUT: What a moment it was. Now what is Saudi Arabia's leading female motorist for (Inaudible) by getting behind the wheel of a formula one at
the French Grand Prix. (Inaudible) drove a Lotus Renault E20 for a lap of the circuit (Inaudible) car ahead of Sunday's race. The first female
member of the Saudi Arabian Motor Sport Federation is also now the first Saudi woman to ever drive a formula one car on the historic track. She
says the experience fulfills a lifelong dream. Bravo.
You're watching News Stream, and still ahead, is Hollywood stuck in a bit of a franchise rut. And with the Marvel cinematic universe, new Star Wars
movies, dozens of other franchise flicks, we're going to hear from a critic on how the big screen is getting a bit stagnant.
[08:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN NEWS STREAM SHOW HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream" and these are your world headlines.
Turkey's main opposition party says it accepts defeat in Sunday's election but it warns the country is now under single-man rule. President Recep
Tayyip Erdogan won a new term in the vote. State media reports that Mr. Erdogan's coalition has also kept control of parliament.
The Trump administration is set to lay out how it's crashing down on Chinese investment in U.S. technology. The Wall Street Journal reports new
rules could bar companies with at least 25 percent Chinese ownership from buying firms involved in significant technology. The U.S. is responding to
what it calls increasing Chinese theft of intellectual property.
Thai Special Forces are desperately searching for a youth football team missing in a cave system in Chiang Rai Province. The coach and 12 boys have
been missing since Saturday after rising waters blocked the cave's entry and exit marks (ph).
Prince William is in Jordan on a tour of the Middle East. As part of his tour, he will become the first British royal to officially visit Israel and
the Palestinian territories. He will be meeting with leaders from both sides in the coming days.
We are getting into the summer blockbuster season and "Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom" topped the box office over the weekend, grossing a grand
$150 million in the U.S.
You got the heart-pounding dinosaur chases, big-name celebrities, all obviously part of the winning formula, but is the movie so successful
because it's part of the Jurassic Park franchise? In fact, the top of the box office charts are dominated by sequels, by spin-off remakes or part of
a franchise.
My guest today isn't impressed by the trend and even less impressed by the latest offering from "Jurassic World."
In fact, The Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday wrote in her piece that she is rooting for it to fail. Ann joins me now live from Baltimore.
Ann, thank you so much for joining us here on the program. "Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom" is out. It is at the top of the weekend box office. The
movie is obviously winning even though you wanted it to really fail hard. Why did you say that? Why did you want to see it fail?
ANN HORNADAY, FILM CRITIC, THE WASHINGTON POST: I know it's very painful to say that because --
(LAUGHTER)
HORNADAY: -- critics really don't root for movies to fail. I just want to be clear about that, and I kind of engaged in a little bit of swift (ph)
excess there, but it is indicative of kind of an addiction that Hollywood has had to mining the nostalgia of the baby boomer generation, the gen-x
generation.
They just are -- they've been really dependent on these remakes of old movies, old TV shows, even toys and games in this kind of desperate attempt
to cash in on the sentimental attachment to these movies that everybody watch when we were a lot younger. I mean, a lot of us remember the first
awestruck moment of seeing those dinosaurs in the original "Jurassic Park."
LU STOUT: Yeah.
HORNADAY: And that is the little piece of lightning that you cannot re- bottle, you know. I mean, you'll never be able to have that moment again. So instead, you know, they just make the dinosaurs bigger and chumpier and
stumpier, which these are in this newest iteration, but very little is really being advanced, you know.
It feels like we're in this kind of cycle. And I think audiences are -- I think it's all about meeting audience expectations instead of really
engaging their imaginations.
LU STOUT: Yeah. It is happening in a huge way. To underscore your point, let's bring up some data for you. Let's look at the top box office draws
this past weekend. Four out of the five top films are all franchise flicks.
You got the latest from "Jurassic World" at the top, followed by "Incredibles 2," followed by "Ocean's 8." "Deadpool 2" rounds out the top
five. And also you have seven of the top 10 movies for the year so far, 2018, are either sequels or part of a franchise.
There is that data for our viewers. Is this just the new reality for blockbusters, that to be big, you got to have nostalgia, you got to have a
sure fire hit here?
[08:35:05] HORNADAY: Well, you know, I do think it was interesting to me to see how well "Fallen World" did because -- or "Fallen Kingdom," I should
say, because it is its audiences, you know. I mean, if audiences -- and I do place some of the blame on us as viewers. I think we should be more
demanding.
LU STOUT: Yeah.
HORNADAY: And I think there's a certain comfort food aspect of this, that it's easier to go to something that you feel like you already know, and it
makes you less adventurous as a viewer. I mean, we are celebrating the 50th anniversary of "2001: A Space Odyssey" this year.
And if you think of, you know, how that movie really sort of unleashed a new visual language and really pushed boundaries and challenged viewers,
then you have to wonder where we -- what are we -- who are we today? You know, what are we demanding of our film artists?
And can we do better as viewers and be a little bit, you know, kind of up our own game because, you know, on the Hollywood side, they are very risk
averse. I mean, there is just so much money at stake that they want to have a kind of built-in audience.
And so they are busily looking at their own archives and their own intellectual property. It's all become I.P.-oriented, speaking of
intellectual property.
LU STOUT: Yeah. You point out that --
HORNADAY: What can we reuse and repurpose.
LU STOUT: Yeah. Also, you point out just for us as consumers, we kind of need to sort of cast a critical gaze on ourselves as well, you know, it's
we love the nostalgia, we can't get enough of the 80s nostalgia, the 90s nostalgia, et cetera.
And what is the cost here? You know, what is the cultural impact of feeding our nostalgia, this never ending stream of spin-offs and sequels? Is it
going to take a toll on great cinematic storytelling?
HORNADAY: I do think it will. I mean, I think you put it very well, Kristie. And that's my worry too. And I think there's even a larger, almost
political cultural issues in terms of like what is that say about our own intellectual capacity?
I mean, I think we have to -- you know, we really do have to look at it and, you know, this kind of constant demand for comfort and for
familiarity, I do think has sort of, you know, you could really read a lot into that in terms of the larger social implications. But just as a movie
critic to your point, I do think it doesn't bode particularly well for innovation in the art form.
Now, I will say, alongside these big blockbusters, we are seeing some really good original storytelling that is doing well this summer. It is
something like Paul Schrader's "First Reformed," for example. It has become a real bonafide art house hit. Documentaries like "RGB" and "Won't You Be
My Neighbor" are doing incredibly well.
So, I do think that, you know, even though that the franchise model is the primary business modeling for Hollywood, that there is room for original
storytelling, especially around awards season. We are going to have a very different conversation over the winter and fall.
LU STOUT: Absolutely.
HORNADAY: But I do think that we should all take a hard look at it.
LU STOUT: I absolutely agree. I really like the point that you made just in this politically fraught world we don't want to be contemplating (ph) on
right now. Ann Hornaday of Washington Post, thank you so much for joining us in the program. I hope to talk again soon with you. Take care.
Bangladesh doesn't have a team in the World Cup. I really want you to see the story. But it's football. Mad (ph) fans are weighing in on opposite
sides of one of football's greatest rivalries. I'll explain after the break.
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[08:40:05] LU STOUT: Welcome back. Lionel Messi and Argentina, they are just one day from a life or death clash with Nigeria in the World Cup. Only
a win will pull Argentina back from the brink of elimination. And as you might expect, Brazilians have been quick to make fun of their main rivals
troubles in Russia. But as Don Riddell now reports, the emotions extend far beyond the borders of those two countries.
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DON RIDDELL, CNN NEWS ANCHOR AND SPORTS JOURNALIST (voice over): Russia is far from home for perennial World Cup favorites, Brazil and Argentina.
Dhaka is even farther. But on the streets and in the skies of the Bangladeshi capital, a sound for American sporting rivalry is playing out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, ARGENTINA FOOTBALL TEAM SUPPORTER (through translator): My name is Ani Chakraboity (ph) and all of us here are Argentina
supporters.
RIDDELL (voice over): Asian confederation (INAUDIBLE) Bangladesh won't feature in Russia, and until the team one day makes it on to the world
stage, football mad fans here have diverted themselves to Brazil and Argentina.
Joynal (ph) and his friends live on the opposite side of the world to Brazil.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, BRAZIL FOOTBALL TEAM SUPPORTER (through translator): Every four years, I color my house with Brazilian flag colors. By doing
this, I have faced many challenges. I will continue doing this as long as I live.
RIDDELL (voice over): They painted giant flags over their entire building, decked out their homes with memorabilia, all to show their support for
Brazil's stars.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I hope the news about this Brazil house will reach Brazil as the news channels from Brazil is coming. I hope
the Brazilian players will know about this Brazil house and someday they will come to Bangladesh to see this house and I will get to meet them.
RIDDELL (voice over): Brazil and Argentina feature on opposite sides of the World Cup draw, making a tantalizing final between the two South
American giants a possibility. (INAUDIBLE) and unlikely one considering the results of the stage.
Here, fans are locked in their own competition.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Like every year, we have hung a 70-foot flag and there is always big competition in our area. Who can make
the largest flag in our area? Brazil will try to make it, but I think they are late. And I hope that in the Russian World Cup, Argentina will win.
RIDDELL (voice over): Sewers are hard at work, stitching flags of Brazil's famous blue and green, Argentina's blue and white stripes, adding even more
colors to the kaleidoscopic streets. And business is bustling as Messi and Neymar lead their teams on to the field in Russia five and a half thousand
kilometers away.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, STREET VENDOR (through translator): I am selling World Cup flags. It's the World Cup season now, so world flags business is good.
Normally I sell vegetables, which is not in high demand right now, so I'm doing this business. So I sell flags only during our victory day before the
16th of December and also every four years during the World Cup time.
RIDDELL (voice over): From Rio to Buenos Aires to Moscow and on to Dhaka, teams like these prove that football truly is the world game.
Don Riddell, CNN.
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LU STOUT: And that's the spirit of the World Cup. And that is it for "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout. Don't go anywhere. "World Sport" with
Christina Macfarlane is next.
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