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Actress Heather Locklear Arrested Again; Dad Mysteriously Killed In Camping Trip; Cold Case Breakthrough; "Call Girl" Wanted For A Second Death; One More Thing; Naked Drunk Man Runs Wild In Casino. Aired 6-8p ET

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HOST, HLN CRIME AND JUSTICE: Good evening everyone, I`m Ashleigh Banfield, this is "Crime and Justice." Tonight, a big name from

the small screen has been put behind bars yet again, Heather Locklear arrested for kicking a cop and an EMT, just months after near identical

arrest. Justin Freiman is tracking this story. What has she done this time?

JUSTIN FREIMAN, SR. PRODUCER, HLN CNN: We are trying to disserting pattern we are seeing here. She is accused of actually kicking a Deputy, and then

kicking somebody, a medic, who`s helping her. The sad thing is, it`s not the first time we`re hearing about something like this.

BANFIELD: All right, Justin, we`ll go over the list of what`s been going on with Heather Locklear and where she may be headed in a moment.

Also, tonight, the hunt for a killer after a dad was shot dead while camping in a tent with his little girls sleeping beside him. Michael

Christian is covering this very dark mystery out of Malibu. What happened?

MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, SENIOR FIELD PRODUCER, HLN: Ashleigh, this is such a tragic story, but all accounts, this guy was an amazing husband and an

amazing father. He was the only who was shot and killed at this campground. And we`ll tell you what police are saying about who may have

shot him and why.

BANFIELD: And those two little, little girls. I mean really small. All right, look forward to the details on that one. Thank you Michael.

Also tonight, we hear from the called girl killer, the young woman who injected heroin into a married Google exec, but then left him to die on his

yacht. Kyle Peltz has been covering this. Kyle, she is telling her side of the story all at the same time we`re getting some pretty big breaking

news about another death that she is connected to.

KYLE PELTZ, CRIME AND JUSTICE PRODUCER: That is right, she pleaded guilty in the death of that Google executive back in 2015, but Ashleigh, just

minutes ago we found out she is now wanted on two new murder charges. You`ll never believe who she is now accused of killing. And this is just

hours after she sat down for a TV interview.

BANFIELD: Oh, my goodness. All right. We`ll look forward to that. Thank you for that, Kyle, stick around.

Also caught on camera, the man who wore his birthday suit to the casino. Rest assured, this was no party. What a video.

First of all, I want to take you to Thousand Oaks, California. The L.A. suburb that the entertainment elite call home, including the resident bad

girl of nighttime soaps. On dynasty, she was Sammy Jo Carrington. The (inaudible) attire wrap up in fur. On Melrose Place, she was Amanda

Woodward, the ruthless guest star who seduced her way to the top, but if you talk to local police, Heather Locklear, doesn`t just play a bad girl on

TV. Watch what the Daily Mail.com caught today.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right ae you going to comment on what happened last night?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No comment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No comment it is true? Heather, how are you doing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We heard you assaulted a police officer, Heather.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any comment at all, Heather?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give us a little space, guys, come on. A little courtesy here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How was your night in jail, Heather?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Make no mistake. That was Heather Locklear underneath the hoodie. She was put behind bars last night. And she was charged with two

counts of battery after she allegedly kicked a cop, and an EMT. And they weren`t in the neighborhood coincidentally either. They were responding to

a domestic disturbance call from her house, the second call of that kind that very night, and it`s the second time that she has been accused of

assaulting an officer in merely a matter of months.

I want to bring in my panel, Alexis Tereszcuk, a senior reporter for radaronline.com. On the phone with us is Sergeant Eric Buschow, from the

Ventura County Sheriff`s Office. Addiction expert Adi Jaffe, is with me and defense attorney, Darren Kavinoky joins me as well.

First Sergeant Buschow, maybe you can just sort of walk me to a little bit of what exactly happened at the Locklear residence starting yesterday 6:00

Local Time in the evening? Walk me through it.

SGT. ERIC BUSCHOW, VENTURA COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE: Sure, so at about 6:00 p.m. we received a 911 call of a disturbance at Ms. Locklear`s

residence. Deputies went to the location, contacted the parties who were there, including Ms. Locklear, and determined that no crime had been

committed. So they left. Again, at about five minutes after 11:00 p.m. Last night Local Time, we receive another 911 call of a disturbance.

Deputies went to the scene, determined that it appeared there was a domestic violence situation going on between Ms. Locklear and another

party. And as is standard protocol in a domestic violence investigation, the deputies went to separate the parties to get their statements.

[18:05:06] As they did that, Ms. Locklear kicked one of the deputies and was quickly put in handcuffs. She was extremely intoxicated. She was very

uncooperative. And they summoned medical help to get her checked out because of her extreme intoxication and her behavior. And when an EMT went

to examine her, she kicked the EMT, so at that point, she was taken to the hospital, medically cleared, and then booked into jail for two counts of

misdemeanor battery on emergency personnel.

BANFIELD: So before we get to the, you know, the issues surrounding Ms. Locklear, are the officials OK, the Deputy who was kicked and the EMT, are

they all right?

BUSCHOW: They are all right. Nobody suffered any injuries. Had they been injured, it would have risen to the level of felony charges.

BANFIELD: Who was there with her? I mean, when they arrived at the scene at her home, we`re seeing other party, but who was it?

BUSCHOW: We`re not identifying that party, because of the domestic violence situation. We typically don`t identify the other parties

involved. Those who are not arrested. My understanding is, at the 11:00 p.m. call it was just the two of them at the residence. I don`t know

exactly who was there during the 6:00 p.m. call.

BANFIELD: Do you know if they were different parties from 6:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m., those two different calls?

BUSCHOW: I don`t have that specific information, no.

BANFIELD: And is it -- and I`m not sure that you can say this. But I will try anyway. Were these family members who were with her? Because there

was, I believe, a boyfriend reported in an incident back in February where almost near identical circumstances played out. So was it the same --

possibly the same party, or a different party, possibly family members, any idea?

BUSCHOW: I`m not going to comment on the specific relationships at this point.

BANFIELD: I understand, I understand. So we`ve seen this video today from the Daily Mail.com. They were there when she came out of the lockup. She

posted bond, and her lawyer came out with her. She is wearing pajamas and a big hoodie sweatshirt. She appears to have flip-flops and socks on her

feet. Is this the state in which she was brought in last night when she was arrested at her home?

BUSCHOW: I don`t know exactly what she was wearing when she was brought in to jail. So, I couldn`t specify that.

BANFIELD: Also, it`s kind of inconsequential, but people are usually curious, what kind of bond was posted, how much?

BUSCHOW: Her bail this morning was $20,000. Normally for that charge it would be $10,000. However, it`s doubled, because she is already out on

bail for the same kind of crime. From an earlier case back in February.

BANFIELD: Wow. So normally 10,000, but this time she had to post a 20,000 bond?

BUSCHOW: Correct.

BANFIELD: Don`t go anywhere, Sergeant. If I can hold onto you for a second, I want to bring in Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter for

radronline.com. Alexis, where is heather Locklear now, do we know?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, SENIOR REPORTER, RADARONLINE.COM: We have reported on Radar Online that she has checked into a hospital. She is going to get

evaluated. And is really seeking treatment. This has been a really difficult time for her friends and her family. And they just want Heather

to get better. And so she has agreed, and she has checked into a treatment facility, may not be the right word, hospital is the right word, because

she needs to be medically evaluated.

BANFIELD: All right. I mean, it`s so -- it`s such tender language that should be used when it comes to what`s been going on with Heather Locklear,

because just last Sunday, a call came in about heather Locklear, and I`m not just going to play the dispatch call, two dispatch officials are

discussing the call that they`re about to make. And our audience can be the judge. Have a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is been drinking for two days. And she is extremely agitated and violent. We do have a hazard on file for that

address.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What is that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is Heather Locklear`s house. And she threatened to shoot deputies if they responded to her residence. She was arrested on

2-25-18. And she indicates that she has one handgun registered to her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So that was just on Sunday, Alexis. And I think it can`t be forgotten that we`ve -- I feel like this is a bit -- here we all are over

again, it was just February, feels like yesterday, but it was just February where there was a domestic incident allegedly between Heather and her

boyfriend. Her boyfriend, I think, had blood on his nose. Do you know the details of what happened in February?

TERESZCUK: Yes, the police were called again to her home. This is where she goes with her boyfriend. And when they arrived she told them that he

had been choking her. He told them that she had attacked him. He did. He had a bloody nose, he had marks on his body. And so the police separated

them, again, which they did last night.

[18:10:02] This time, though, Heather went -- she was very, very angry at the police. She started screaming at them. She was using the f word

repeatedly, she was threatening them. She was saying I hope that you understand what it`s like when your house gets burned down. She was saying

you don`t know who I am. And this time, she was verbally attacking the police officers, as well, same situation, physically attacking the police

officers that were there. So she was arrested --

BANFIELD: So I do have a quote, actually, from first of all the police officers in the February incident said she was, quote, extremely

uncooperative and physically combative. And then, here is what the police officers say in that incident in February, she said to them, I`ll start

with this, and I`ve had to obviously bleep out the "f" bombs, you f-ing deserve your kids to die. You f-ing deserve it, when you find yourselves

in that position, think of me. And that is from the search warrant, at least -- yes, from the search warrant for her.

The second quote that we have from the police, again from February, I will shoot you if you come on my property and take that as a threat. And f-ing

put another count against me. They did find that she had the Smith Wesson pistol registered to her, but they didn`t find the firearm. She is --

because of that incident alone, she is facing four counts of battery on a police officer. One count of resisting, obstructing or delaying a peace

officer. And I guess we add on these counts today, battery on emergency personnel, two counts.

There was also 2012, 2010, 2008. I`m just going to put up her arrest record so the audience can get a fairly clear look at, you know, what she

is facing in the system that adds on to what happened. The first one is of course, you know, last night, 2018 is the battery, four counts. Resisting,

obstructing or delaying. 2010, she was involved in a hit and run offense. 2008 reckless driving. That was an arrest for driving under the influence,

but she pled out to guilty to reckless driving. It is a far, far cry, panel, from the person that America has come to know and really love and

love to hate, all at the same time, I mean, her terrific acting prowess. She became famous at age 20 on Dynasty and she, you know, soared even

higher on Melrose Place. Have a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re fired.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fired?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are a pathetic, excuse for a man. If my mother wants you so badly, she can have you. I don`t like the crap that comes

with you. You have five minutes to pack up and be gone. Or I will call security. You deliberately destroyed my relationship with Jake, without

coming to me, without asking for an explanation. You took Chaz`s word, check in to a very long night and plunged it into my back. Of all of your

neurotic stupid ill type antics, this is the worst.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I only said.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shut up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: How do you, Adi Jaffe, that may seem like no big deal today, but back in the `90s that was a huge deal for a woman to be that powerful, to

be an executive, to dress people down in that way. She really made a name for herself, because she did something very few people on television were

doing. And now she is doing something that very few people in her profession do as well, end up in this kind of situation. It`s very hard to

diagnose on television, but at least you can see a pattern and recognize something that maybe the average person can`t.

ADI JAFFE, ADDICTION EXPERT: Yes. You know, I want to say first of all obviously I don`t have work with Heather and don`t have any intimate

knowledge of what`s going on with her. But it`s not that uncommon to, look, from the work I`ve done with celebrities and high-powered individuals

who are actually really able to separate themselves when in they are in a professional setting. The vast majority of the time and act as if

everything is going smoothly. But it`s pretty clear that for at least a decade now there has been something brewing below the surface for Heather.

And that she is really, really struggling. I think it`s important for us not to pre-judge this. I think we fall into judging this as, you know,

Heather is an addict and therefore she is behaving this way. We have to understand it, there are biological, psychological and environmental

factors that must be going on under the hood here for us to be dealing with this sort of crisis for this length of time.

BANFIELD: Yes. And just quickly, Darren Kavinoky, you know, she is known as the bad girl on the TV and she is also known as the bad girl on the red

carpet. You know, she was married to a bad boy of Rock Tommy Lee, and bad boy rock Richie Sambora and they were seen, you know, regularly out on the

town these couples. Does that at all play into anything, you know, if and when she ends up in front of a Judge?

DARREN KAVINOKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, her personal choices, other than the underlying facts that put her in front of the court generally aren`t

going to be relevant to what`s going on there. And really it is so sad, to see this decomposition. How often have we seen people who struggle with

alcoholism, with drug addiction who -- you know, what we need to remember here, Ashleigh is, these are sick people who need to get well and not bad

people who need to get good.

[18:15:03] And that creates a real tension in the court system. Because there, the main carrot in the stick, if you will, are jail time. And

really what she needs, I`m delighted to hear she is going into this hospital setting for evaluation. Because what it sounds like she really

needs is treatment to address all of the things that your other guests referenced in terms of what`s going on underneath the hood.

BANFIELD: You know. We`re going to talk a little bit more about her, her body of work. You may say, look, what a flighty kind of role she played,

not at all. In fact, she was a trail blazer. She was one of the first people ever to star in two, you know, simultaneous programs in primetime at

one time. She was extremely hard working. We`re going to talk a little more about that during the 7:00 hour. I`m asking all of you, if you can

come back. In the meantime, Darren Kavinoky, don`t go far, I got a couple of cases I want you to weigh in on.

A family camping trip goes horribly wrong when a California dad sleeping in a tent with his two little girls, his little daughters is somehow shot and

killed in the middle of the night. And now the state park is closed and now the police are desperately trying to find out who fired that bullet and

maybe more importantly, dear god, why?

[18:20:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: It is officially summer, which means that camp sites across the country are starting to fill up so that families can get some time with

Mother Nature and a little time out of the house. That was certainly the goal for the Beaudette family, a 2-year-old little girl and her 4-year-old

sister both ready to go camping with daddy so that their mom could get a little quiet time in order to study, but the weekend camping trip ended in

tragedy when someone shot their daddy dead. In the family tent, in the early morning hours. Turning their camp site into a crime scene.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The sheriff told us, like, oh, yes, like something was happening, but I thought he was saying that just to like, to make us

not go to the rock pools. Pretty secluded. It is like everything pre -- out laid, it`s pretty quiet. I wouldn`t expect something to happen.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: The campground at Malibu Creek State Park is now closed. Quote, in the interest of public safety, end quote. This as police try to figure

out a motive for anyone who would want to kill Tristan Beaudette. We are also trying to figure out, somewhat of a haunting history of shootings at

this park. Like the one that happened last year, and still remains a mystery.

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MELISS TATANGELO, SHOT AT WHILE CAMPING IN SAME PARK: I walked around the back and at first I thought it was a joke. At first I thought someone put

a sticker on my car. Then I thought maybe I backed into something. I didn`t know. My boyfriend walked around and he was like, that is a bullet

hole. OK. It is right? We need to do something.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me now, CNN correspondent, Paul Vercammen who is covering the story. CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant

Director Tom Fuentes, and defense attorney Darren Kavinoky is still with me. Paul, first to you. You just heard Melissa Tatangelo say that last

year she got a bullet through her car, now we have a bullet through a dad sleeping beside two small children. What`s happening in that park?

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, detectives were very firm in telling me Ashleigh, that they have found no link between that shooting

involving the car and the fatal shooting in the tent. And what they are stressing is there have been incidents in this park in which, as you saw, a

bullet went through a bumper, but they were not homicides. They were criminal in their actions, but they cannot be, you know, suggested that

this was some sort of serial, you know, killer who`s haunting this campground. They want to be very careful about that, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: And you know, you never say that two incidents is a pattern, necessarily, but it`s not just two. There have been other shootings as

well. What do we know about the other shootings there?

VERCAMMEN: Well, they are investigating all of this just in case that there is a link. But they`re focusing on this one. As you pointed out,

Ashleigh, they have absolutely no motive and they told me anything is on the table right now. They say for now they`re ruling out suicide, but

what`s complicating things is, right now, who seems to be the best witnesses? These two little girls. Two and four. They are currently

having discussions with the family about bringing in one of those forensic investigators who specializes in interviewing children. And that has not

happened yet.

BANFIELD: And just to be really --

VERCAMMEN: Yes?

BANFIELD: Yes, just to be really clear about how this played out, Paul, it`s a crowded campground, about 60 different camp sites. There were some

ear witnesses who heard a shot go off around 4:45 in the morning Local Time. Do we know anything beyond that? Meaning, did someone come running

out to this tent and hear two little girls crying, or hear a man gasping for air? Is there any other description of how this played out, especially

as pertains to those little babies?

VERCAMMEN: Well, this sounds like a combination of factors. Because, one, as we said, detectives are -- they`re very serious in saying this.

[18:25:03] I mean, sometimes you get the line. But they said, they just absolutely don`t have any leads. Not a vehicle description. Nothing like

that. And as you point out, 4:44 a.m. So this happens in the pre-dawn blackness in this rural campground. This is 25 miles away from Los

Angeles. And it is sprawling, Ashleigh, there`s some 25 miles of hiking trails through here. So that is what they`re --

BANFIELD: I`m glad you mentioned that. Because this is a strange place, this is not just any kind of state park. There`s a real storied history to

this location. This was made famous, because 21st century Fox actually owned this property. It was used quite frequently, in fact, as a

background location for movies. And maybe one of the most famous scenes that people will recognize is the opening credits to MASH. I want to play

it, so people know exactly the area that we`re talking about. Have a look.

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(MUSIC PLAYING)

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BANFIELD: So that was supposed to look like South Korea. However, that is the area that we`re talking about here, Paul. It`s just kind of eerie to

be to believe able to see that and put the area, you know, put this exact location in other words into image. Real quickly, what else do we know

about his wife. Because Tristan`s wife was apparently studying for an exam. That is why he took the girls camping? But I can only imagine that

police have to look at everybody including family members.

VERCAMMEN: Well, they are looking at her. We understand that she was studying to be a doctor, and we also seem to get an understanding this is a

very smart family. I mean, this -- Tristan himself is a Ph.D. recipient from Berkeley, University of California at Berkeley. He is a senior at

Allergan, the company which is now mourning his loss. So, this Ph.D., this genius is someone who had a high impact in the pharmaceutical industry was

based in California.

We know that the couple was planning to move and start new jobs in the San Francisco bay area. Let me read from a statement that was given to us by

Allergan of course, they say first and foremost, they`re trying to help the wife and the family, but it says, Tristan will be remembered as a talented

scientist who was admired by all who knew him, and a meaningful contributor to our company`s research and development efforts. So as you said,

Ashleigh, they`re going to fan out and try to quiz anybody who might know anything about what is a murder mystery in an idyllic, highly popular state

park.

BANFIELD: So strange. Maybe Tom Fuentes, you can lend a little help here in terms of where do you begin? I mean, this is weird. It is in the

middle of nowhere. You saw that "MASH" sequence. That is exactly where this happen. You have two little girls in a tent with their dad at 4:45

a.m. So, you know, what is law enforcement analyst brain start thinking now? Where do you start with this investigation?

TOM FUENTES, CNN`S SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST AND FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: In the first place, Ashleigh, I would like to know more about

what forensic work was done at the crime scene at the time of the event. Did that bullet come from outside the tent, did somebody stick their head

in the tent, stick the gun in the tent and shoot him that way?

Maybe they were all three asleep at the time it happened. Were their footprints outside, where there tire prints, or any other fibers, or other

material evidence around the camp site that might lead to information about this? Then after the forensic work, and then, of course, the work on the

victim, the recovery of the bullet. Can they identify what caliber gun it was?

Can they identify, is there a bullet casing that was semiautomatic pistol, a bullet casing laying in the dirt nearby that would reveal the possibly

the caliber of the gun also? And would be able to be identified to a specific firearm at a later date if they recovered one in the

investigation?

BANFIELD: Yes, well, there --

FUENTES: Then of course, you look all at the personal factors of the people involved.

BANFIELD: Of course. That is always part of the deal. Well, they`re not releasing a lot of information yet. But we`re going to keep following

this, you know, to see what we can, you know, glean of it. It`s just a weird mystery. I feel like I know that area having watched "MASH" almost

every day of my life growing up. Paul Vercammen, thank you. Tom Fuentes, thank you as well. Darren Kavinoky, I am going to ask you to stick around.

Tonight, a sign of the times, as Washington State police get too huge break in cold case investigations that go back decades. 66-year-old Gary

Hartman, making his first court appearance after an arrest for the murder in 1986 of 12-year-old Michelle Welch, this is the second cold case arrest

in a month for the Tacoma Police Department.

In May, 60-year-old Robert Washburn was pulled in, arrested and charged for the murder of 13 year-old Jennifer Bastian, strangely enough, Jennifer was

also killed in 1986.

[18:30:00] Pierce County prosecuting attorney says as more people are participating in all these genealogy websites trying to find their family

links, they just so happen to be providing the keys to cracking these cases. And by the way, they`re issuing a warning to anybody out there

hoping to get away with murder.

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MARK LINDQUIST, PIERCE COUNTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY: Today, we`re at a point where if you`re a criminal and you`ve left your DNA at the scene, you

might as well turn yourself in now. We will catch you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: These two arrests and the April arrest of the Golden State killer, allegedly James Joseph DeAngelo, highlight the fact that police

investigations have really, really turned the corner. So it`s probably worthwhile to echo Mark Lindquist`s warning to rapists or murderers out

there hiding in plain sight thinking it`s ages ago, they will never find me.

It turns out there is no escape and there is no recourse because your DNA is linked to somebody, and those somebodies want to know who they`re

connected to, and the police want to know about you.

We also have breaking news tonight. California`s call girl killer, now facing murder charges in Georgia. It is the second death she`s connected to

and this is breaking news just today. All of the years after pleading guilty for the overdose death of her millionaire sugar daddy on a Santa

Cruz yacht. Yes, it sounds like a movie. And we`ll break it all down, next.

[18:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: It had all the makings of an R-rated movie. An expensive call girl, bag full of drugs, a million-dollar yacht. Throw in the rich

executive with the wife and kids, five kids. And you got yourself a blockbuster. Only in this story, the Google exec ends up dead with an

armful of heroin and the call girl gets pinned for the crime.

It probably didn`t help that she was caught on surveillance sipping some wine before packing up her things and leaving that yacht without calling

911. And it probably didn`t help that a cop had to pose as yet another sugar daddy in order to get her into handcuffs seven months after the fact.

Well, now, Alix Tichelman is out of jail and she is telling her side of the story. All at the very moment that we`re getting breaking news about yet

another death, eerily similar, only she has yet to face the rap on this one because it`s looking like the girl who was known as the "harbor hooker" or

the "call girl killer" depending on what story you`re reading, is going to have to get used to defending herself.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anyone that knows me or has known me knows that I would never intentionally hurt someone. And so for the police to like so

sensationalize it and, you know, try to portray to everyone that I`m some kind of serial killer, it`s just dumb. I especially don`t like the name

"harbor hooker." It just -- I get like a vision of a girl walking around the harbor looking for fishermen.

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BANFIELD: With me now, a couple of panelists who are going to help me sort this out but not before we get to the breaking news on this story which our

producer, Kyle Peltz, has just unearthed. Kyle, this is very strange. We were looking at doing a story about a woman who served her time, was

deported, and was going to tell us her side of the story.

And then all of a sudden, it started getting a lot bigger, shall we say, today. What happened today that changes everything for this young woman?

KYLE PELTZ, CRIME AND JUSTICE PRODUCER (via telephone): That`s right. It happened literally minutes before we went to air. She was speaking out on

TV telling her side of the story about the death of that Google executive. But right before we went to air, Ashleigh, we found out that she`s been

slapped with two murder charges in the state of Georgia.

BANFIELD: Two murder charges. As I understand it, this was something we knew about, but we certainly didn`t think that the authorities were at this

stage of the game. We knew that there had been another boyfriend in her past who had died of an overdose. Correct?

PELTZ (via telephone): That`s right. It happened about two months before the death of that Google executive. It was a former boyfriend of Alix`s.

His name was Dean Riopelle. And like you said, the medical examiner back in 2013 ruled his death an accidental overdose from heroin and alcohol. But

now she`s charged with his murder.

BANFIELD: And so they -- the Georgia authorities, after the California case wrapped up with the Google exec on the yacht, the plea, the time

served and the deportation of Alix, the authorities in Georgia said, you know, this doesn`t smell right.

So they took another look at the overdose case of the boyfriend.

[18:39:58] And, I mean, as I was working all day, the status was that the results of the investigation had been turned over to the prosecutors and

it`s a wait and see game. And then boom, like you said, within the last hour or so, she has got - is it two charges or two indictments for felony

murder?

PELTZ (via telephone): That`s exactly right, two charges of felony murder. And actually both relate to the same former boyfriend of hers. One charge

is, you know, the grand jury has said that she distributed heroin, which caused his death. He was also intoxicated with alcohol. And the other

charge, they say oxycodone that she distributed caused his death.

BANFIELD: It`s just unbelievable. Amy Larson, jump in here if you will, because you`re the digital media manager for CNN affiliate KSBW. You

actually did the interview. Darren Kavinoky, I`ll you about this in a minute.

But Amy, we didn`t expect this to be the story tonight. We expected to talk to you about your interview with Alix. She has got her life going in a

whole new direction. Did you have any idea, A, while you were doing the interview, that this was about to come down? And B, did she have any idea

this was about to come down as she was saying all these things to you?

AMY LARSON, DIGITAL MEDIA MANAGER, CNN AFFILIATE KSBW: I truly had absolutely no idea. I did a series of four interviews with Alix last week.

And very candid interviews, which you can find on KSBW.com. And wow, I`m truly stunned. She talked to me about Dean`s death. And she told me she

wasn`t even at home at the time that he overdosed on drugs.

So, I`m stunned. I just reached out to Alix within the last 10 minutes. She`s stunned. She had no idea. She unfortunately, you know, just found

out. And she`s at a loss for words just like I am. Truly stunning.

BANFIELD: I don`t know about unfortunately. I sort of look at this woman as having caused a death of another man and possibly, allegedly, a death of

yet a second man. So I sort of think, wait for the RCNP to come knocking on your door in Canada because they are apparently working with the Canadians.

This is very difficult, extradition from Canada when you`re a death penalty state and felony murder can be death penalty crime. It gets very, very

ticklish. Let`s just say pardon the pun.

So real quickly, I want to play a part of your interview, Amy, where I`ve got to be honest it sounds like Alix gives a million different reasons for

why she had a few sips of that wine, stepped over the body of Forrest Hayes as he was OD`ing and walked out of that yacht, putting the blinds down and

moving on. It sounds like she`s giving a million reasons for it, none of them I`m wrong. Have a listen to how she put it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When he fell unconscious, I did try to revive him to no avail. And I was very upset. I was crying and trying to wake him up. And

the police said that I was coldly and calmly walking around the boat. And that`s not the case at all. I was like -- I was in a complete panic.

And in that world, you know, with seeking arrangement, discretion is the most important thing. And I did know that he was a married man. Though it

was not the correct choice, I was inebriated as I had, you know, I was on valium. I had injected myself first.

I was not thinking correctly. And I figured that I didn`t know that he was in immediate distress. It looked to me like he was still breathing. It just

looked like he had passed out. I know that in the past I`ve done drugs and passed out, not woken up until 24 hours later.

And so I figured it was something like that, which was wishful thinking. And, you know, I just wanted to make it look like no one had been there so

that I didn`t get him in trouble with his wife or the police or his workplace.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Well, that`s a whole lot of reasons as to why she`s now telling us she`s not a murderer. And she is not. She pled to involuntary

manslaughter. But now she`s facing two counts of murder. Hold on, Amy, for a second. She mentioned the seeking arrangement business.

That`s how they caught her. That`s how she ended up with that victim. But how do you suppose they`re going to catch her now? Because murder? Well, it

doesn`t get more serious than that in Georgia.

[18:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: We`re still talking about the so-called "call girl killer," the young California escort who met her older married John on his yacht and

then injected him with heroin before he collapsed and she left him to die. She has done her time behind bars to that night. And now she`s speaking

out, saying there`s a whole other side to her story.

[18:50:01] Just as we learn that Alix Tichelman is now facing murder charges for a totally different death with totally similar features. My

panel is still with me. I want to play this piece from your interview, Amy Larson, where Alix sort of tells us when she knew the jig was up and that

she was being arrested. Have a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The moment I realized that I was going to be arrested was when I hugged him in a way of greeting, and he didn`t hug me back. And

I felt the bullet proof vest underneath his shirt. And I knew right then that I was going to jail.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Amy Larson, when you just talked to her about this whole brand new state of charges, two felony murder charges, did she say she knows

she`s about to be arrested again? Did she say she`s going to turn herself in? Did she say anything?

LARSON: She was shocked. She had no idea. I sent her the press release from the district attorney that just came in a few minutes ago. She had no

idea.

BANFIELD: Wow. Darren Kavinoky, weigh in on this. From a legal standpoint, she`s in Canada because she was deported. But it`s real hard to get people

back out of Canada when you try to extradite into a death penalty state. This makes it complicated.

DARREN KAVINOKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, we see this happen all the time, Ashleigh, where when somebody is extradited from a country that does not

have the death penalty to the United States and in a state that does, oftentimes there will be something in the extradition agreement where the

country that has the person will only return them if that state agrees not to pursue the death penalty.

But what`s really interesting to me in this particular case is that Georgia appears to be taking a very expansive view towards this felony murder rule

to be able to tease this into a murder charge.

Normally the felony murder rule applies where there`s a killing, whether intended or not, during the commission of an inherently dangerous felony,

something like burglary, arson, robbery, rape, kidnapping.

So, for example, let`s say you and I decide to hold up the liquor store and I shoot the store clerk even though you have no intention to harm anybody,

you can be charged with felony murder because we`re engaged in inherently dangerous activity.

So it`s a very -- as I said, expansive notion to say, well, she was involved in drug distribution. And at some point this individual overdosed

from those drugs. They`re not engaged in the commission of a felony at the time of the overdose based on how I`m understanding the facts. And drug

distribution in and of itself is not an inherently dangerous felony, blank --

BANFIELD: Yeah, but you know what, Darren? You know what? If you do something illegal and then you are in the commission of a felony and the

person dies, doesn`t have to die right then, they can die eight months, 10 months, 10 years later, you can still face the music for it.

KAVINOKY: Of course, I understand that. But I think one of the interesting threads that we have between this story and some others is the unintended

consequences that often befall people who are engaged in drug-related offenses.

BANFIELD: Surprise, surprise. It happens. I`ve got to leave it there. But I need you guys to come back on this one because this was all breaking as

we came to showtime. But Amy, keep the phones hot and let us know what happens when you next speak with Ms. Tichelman. Be curious to find out if

there`s a knock on the door from the RCNP. Thank you both. Appreciate it.

I got three words for you, drunk, naked, and casino. And one thing, the video is next.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[18:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: Got one more thing for you tonight. We have heard about gamblers losing their shirts. But everything else? Well, that`s pretty much what

happened at a Louisiana casino.

Bossier City police say that the naked guy in question was an agitated fella, certainly in an agitated state, was throwing chairs at the officers.

They tried pretty much everything. They tried shutting him down with pepper spray, no dice, didn`t work. So they fired bean bags at him.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on the ground.

BANFIELD (voice-over): And then went flying through the casino like that. So he took off, he jumped over gaming tables, he dashed behind the slot

machines. Five cops were in hot pursuit.

Terrence Roquemore is now facing what you call a laundry list of charges, including public intoxication and aggravated assault on a police officer.

Not to mention being mercilessly mopped for the rest of his life because this stuff is on the internet.

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BANFIELD: And the internet is forever. Next hour of "Crime and Justice" starts right now.

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[19:00:04] BANFIELD (voice-over): She has been on and off your TV for decades.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have become this big presence in my life.

BANFIELD: But she has also been in and out of handcuffs for years.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was drunk in the market. She got in the car.

BANFIELD: And tonight she has been arrested again.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s extremely agitated and violent.

BANFIELD: Did Heather Locklear really attack another officer just months after a similar arrest?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ether she refuses to take medication or it`s not working.

BANFIELD: And what happened before the call to the cops?

Tonight, the hunt for a killer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s pretty quiet. I wouldn`t expect something to happen.

BANFIELD: Who shot a father dead in his tent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Campground was nearly full, it`s summer vacation.

BANFIELD: He had been camping with his two little girls.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I saw a bullet hole.

BANFIELD: But it`s not the first time it`s happened at this campground.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whoever it was walked up and shot into my car.

BANFIELD: She was known as the call girl killer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I did know that he was a married man.

BANFIELD: After she shot up a sugar daddy with heroin.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was very adamant about doing the drugs.

BANFIELD: As he ODed, she sips some wine, gathers her things and left him to die.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is not the case at all. I was in complete panic.

BANFIELD: But tonight she` is telling her side of the story.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It seemed like the police had this hatred and anger towards me.

BANFIELD: The question is, does she deserve her own happy ending?

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BANFIELD: Good evening, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield.

Welcome the second hour of CRIME & JUSTICE.

It is not every day you have got an actor that plays a bad girl on TV and in real life. But Heather Locklear is used to playing the villain, ever

since we got to know her as Sammy Jo Carington, the revolutionary (INAUDIBLE) on Dynasty who redefined the role of the TV bad girl with

diamonds and fur or who could forget Amanda Woodward, the boss bitch of Melrose place. And when Heather Locklear got hitch to rough rockers like

Tommy Lee and then Richy Sambora, she just cemented her status as the queen of Hollywood`s naughty list.

But Locklear`s legacy and pictures might center less around her star- studded career into risque red carpet appearances at her robe`s gallery of make-ups smeared mug shots. And tonight there is one more to add to the

exhibit. Locklear was put behind bars last night and charged with two counts of battery after she allegedly kicked a cop and kicked an EMT. And

they weren`t in her neighborhood just by coincidence either. They were there because of a domestic disturbance, a domestic that came from her

house. The second call, in fact, the second call of its kind yesterday. And the second time that she`s been accused of assaulting an officer in

just a few months.

The dailymail.com caught up with her as she was coming out of jail today.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Heather, do you got any comment on whatever happened last night?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No comment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No comment at all?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Heather, how are you doing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We heard you assaulted a police officer, Heather.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any statements at all, Ms. Locklear?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any comment at all, Heather?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give us a little space, guys, come on, a little courtesy here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How was your night in jail, Heather?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Want to bring in my panel, Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter for radaronline.com. On the phone, Sergeant Eric Buschow from Ventura County

sheriff`s office. Also addiction expert Adi Jaffe is with us and defense attorney Darren Kavinoky.

Sergeant, if I can begin with you. Can you just give me the rundown on what exactly happened at Heather Locklear`s house?

SGT. ERIC BUSCHOW, VENTURA COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE (on the phone): Yes. So we responded out to her house at 6:00 p.m. yesterday evening on a

disturbance call. And when deputies arrived on scene, they quickly determined that no crime had occurred. So they left. Then at about 11:05

p.m. last night there was a second call. And this was more specific as to a domestic disturbance. So when deputies got there, they determined a

domestic disturbance was occurring between Miss Locklear and another party.

And as standard period deputies separated the parties so they could get statements from each of them. And as they did that, Ms. Locklear kicked

one of the deputies. She was quickly handcuffed and arrested. And she was very intoxicated, extremely uncooperative with the deputies. They called

for EMS to come and check on her because of her intoxicated and agitated state.

When an EMT went to evaluate her, she kicked the EMT. So ultimately she was taken to the hospital. She was cleared for booking. Taken to jail.

And booked on two counts of battery on emergency personnel.

[19:05:12] BANFIELD: But she spent the night in the jail, right?

BUSCHOW: She did. Yes, she bailed out at about 9:00 this morning.

BANFIELD: So the normal bail is about $10,000. And that was not the case this time round.

BUSCHOW: No. Her bail was doubled in this case because specifically because she is already out on bail on another criminal charge, which was

the case from February. Actually, multiple charges of battery on a peace officer. So because of that fact that she is out on bail in a preexisting

criminal case, her bail is doubled on the new case.

BANFIELD: So no accounting for any kind of ancillary issues here? I mean, you are just the facts man, right? You level those charges as you see

them, and it`s not about whether somebody has an addictions issue, or perhaps an issue with mental illness, that`s not what it`s about for you,

right? You call them as you see them, and you let the rest of the process play out?

BUSCHOW: Well, not necessarily. I mean, it can be. You know, if people are having an addiction problem or they are in distress or they are

displaying signs of mental illness where they are incapable of caring for their own well-being, we will intervene in other ways. But once they cross

the line and commit a crime in front of us, unfortunately, you know, their decision is made for them at that point when they commit a crime. And it`s

time to go to jail at that point.

BANFIELD: Yes, not much you can do about it when you have an EMT and a cop who has been kicked. Are they OK, by the way, the police officer and the

EMT, are they hurt?

BUSCHOW: They are not. Fortunately they didn`t suffer any injuries. Otherwise that would have resulted in felony charges against Ms. Locklear.

BANFIELD: OK. So I`m just going to go back to last Sunday because just a week ago, literally one week to the day there was this dispatch call

discussing Heather Locklear. And as you listen to this dispatch call, you will hear discussion about something called hazard on file. And what that

means is that they are actually referring to something from February. Meaning, these responders know that they have got somebody who might be

aggressive because, you know, the allegation here in this call is that she`s been aggressive before, so watch yourself. So this is the dispatch

call from last Sunday. Have a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Suicidal SUBJECT. She has been drinking for two days. And she`s extremely agitated and violent. We do have a hazard on

file for that address.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What is that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is Heather Locklear`s house, and she threatened to shoot deputies if we responded to her residence. She was arrested on

2/25/18. And she indicates that she has one handgun registered to her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: OK. Important to note, she did have a handgun registered to her, smith and Wesson, but there was no firearm actually ever located.

But sergeant, I`m curious about this. So last Sunday, a week ago, on June 17th, there`s this dispatch call about, you know, someone extremely

agitated, violent, drinking for two days, suicidal, right. And hazard on file from the incident from February where she also allegedly kicked a

police officer. So when the police were responding yesterday, did they have a similar hazard on file, meaning they kind of knew what they were

coming into?

BUSCHOW: Yes. And that`s the standard thing. If we go to a location and there`s a history where someone`s posed a threat directly, or made threats

to officers or, you know, there`s a reasonable likelihood that that person`s going to be a danger to those deputies and we have that

information, we will broadcast that every time deputies go to that house. Because you can have different shifts, different personnel responding and

they need to know what they are going into.

BANFIELD: Yes. I want to bring in Alexis Tereszcuk on this. Because. Alexis, the incident from February is just so frighteningly similar that I

find it tragic. I find it sad that somebody with such great skill and such a wonderful, you know, history of work. I mean, she really was a really

hard-working actress for three decades. But the February incident is where we all sort of get an idea that something is terribly wrong with Heather

Locklear. Can you wrap up for me what effectively happened in February? What the circumstance was and what happened to her in terms of charges?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, SENIOR REPORTER, RADARONLINE.COM: So the police were called in February, again, it was a domestic dispute, the police arrived.

She told them that her boyfriend had been choking her. Her boyfriend said she had hit him. He had a bloody nose. He had marks on his chest. Police

arrested her. But she did not go peacefully at all. And I, too, am a huge fan of Heather Locklear`s. I love her. I loved "Melrose Place." But she

started cursing at the police. She physically attacked them. She actually threatened to f-ing shoot them.

And so, they took swift action. They hauled her right down to jail because they are not going to do this. And that`s the thing about the gun

incident. It is not just that she has a gun. Plenty of people own guns. Believed she has a permit and is registered, but she threatened to shoot

the police. And that is why they are so cautious now and so apprehensive.

[19:10:19] BANFIELD: Yes, that`s bad. The quote was extremely uncooperative, physically combative, threatened the officers, kicked an

officer`s shin, kicked an officer`s groin. These are the allegations she is facing back from February. And here are the quotes that they actually

put in the warrant.

Heather Locklear to the police said in February, you f-ing deserve your kids to die. You f-ing deserve it. And when you find yourselves in that

position, think of me. And then the next quote she`s alleged to have said to police, I will shoot you. If you come on my property and take that as a

threat. And f-ing put another count against me. So that kind of image and that kind of dialogue is a far cry from the kind of behavior that made her

so famous.

Again, bad behavior, but all acting on "Melrose Place." I want you to take a look at this like really great and I got to say ground-breaking work

because not many people on TV, not many women on TV were tough and powerful and getting away with it. But she was in the `90s on "Melrose Place."

Have a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are lying and everyone here knows it. They are probably in on it, in fact.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sounds like marijuana to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s an obvious indicator of marijuana usage.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s right. Enjoy the moment, Peter, because guess what, this game is not over. It`s my move. And I`m going to be handing

you your jewels on a silver platter.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: So that`s Amanda Woodward. I mean, that`s how I always think of her. But I also think of her as Sammy Jo from "Dynasty" where she started

the bad girl role with such plank (ph). Have a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I won`t be satisfied until I never see you or hear your voice again. I really wish I had time to jerk you around, Alexis. I

would love to let you throw money at me, trying to outbid Mr. Carington for Danny.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did one tramp here what the other tramp just said?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: I mean, this was famous stuff, guys. This is what everybody talked about. This was huge. And it really launched her into the

(INAUDIBLE) as did this famous marriages to the bad boys of rock and roll. She was married Tommy Lee for better part of a decade. And when that

marriage crumbled, boom, Richy Sambora was up next. And she was married to him for about 13 years or so. They were seen on so many red carpets. And

really, I mean, they were sort of this famous bad boy/bad girl couple. And now the bad girl arrest record is pretty palpable.

The June 2018, that`s the one from last night. Battery on emergency personnel.

February 2018, battery on peace officer, four counts, resisting, obstructing or delaying a police officer, one count.

2010, she was involved in a hit and run, crashed her car into is a street sign near her home, failed to report the incident, the early morning wreck.

And in 2008, reckless driving was the guilty plea. But she was arrested for driving under the influence.

So it`s been a rough road.

Adi, you heard, you know, you heard the officer, Sergeant Buschow said it is something they take into account, someone`s mental state, someone`s

addictions. I`m not suggesting that I know what`s happening with Ms. Locklear, but the pattern seems like we have seen this before.

ADI JAFFE, PH.D, ADDICTION EXPERT: Yes, sure. I mean, and as you pointed out, it`s been going on over ten years. It seems like it is being

exacerbated to some extent. And I would really -- I`m not involved with Heather myself. But I would be really interested in finding out what it is

that`s been causing this exacerbation over the last, you know, six or seven months or so.

We typically find that there are changes in the environment, change in psychology and some of this biology when we see these events getting worse

and worse. You show that -- you know, we heard that tape, the dispatch tape about somebody being suicidal.

What I think is really important to keep in mind as we look at somebody like this, you know, these people who get into these very high-profile jobs

live in this coon where they are actually not allowed to show vulnerability. From the work that I have done with celebrities and people

along the line of this work, what you find is that they really, really struggle with how to live a normal or seemingly normal life when you can`t

be vulnerable at all. And typically, I see it get exacerbated in moments of high stress, high trauma through situations like this.

BANFIELD: So real quickly, Darren, just weigh in on this, I have about 30 seconds left. Do you think that she is really going to face jail time? I

mean, these are very serious crimes, make no mistake. And the sergeant was very clear about that. But we also see a pattern of where she could be

something very seriously wrong with her mental state or at least her health in some way.

DARREN KAVINOKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, she certainly has the risk of significant jail time. She has five counts in that open previous case, all

of which come with a year of potential custody time. Now, she has got two new ones, plus the additional trouble of committing a crime while you are

on bail from another crime.

And it`s just so sad. Hopefully, I think the question is going to be whether the Ventura County court system is going to recognizes what this

is, and makes sure she gets the mental health she needs. And there are several legal vehicles that allow them to do so whether they are going to

be benevolent enough to allow that is another question.

[19:15:23] BANFIELD: We will have to watch and see. I didn`t even get to her work on T.J. Hooker, or on Spin City. But she has got a real body of

work, and you know, what, she needs to be respected for that for sure.

Thank you all. Alexis Tereszcuk, Thank you. Do appreciate it.

Sergeant Eric Buschow and Adi Jaffe, thank you very much.

Darren, I`m going to ask you to stick around.

Tonight, the desperate search for the gunman who shot and killed a California dad who was camping with his two young daughters in a popular

California state park. Well now that park is closed as the search for the triggerman intensifies and the question of why gunshots have rung out there

before makes it all the more mysterious.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:20:52] BANFIELD: It`s officially summer, which means that camp sites across the country are starting to fill up so that families can get some

time with mother nature and a little time out of the house. That was certainly the goal for the Bodette family, a 2-year-old little girl and her

4-year-old sister both ready to go camping with daddy so that their mom could get a little quiet time in order to study.

But the weekend camping trip ended in tragedy when someone shot their daddy dead in the family tent in the early morning hours, turning their camp site

into a crime scene.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The sheriff told us, like, oh, yes, like something was happening. I thought he was just saying that to make us not go to the

rock pools. Pretty secluded, like it -- everything is pretty spread out like it is pretty quiet. Like I wouldn`t expect something to happen.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: The campground at Malibu Creek state park is now closed.

Quote "in the interest of public safety," end quote.

This as police try to figure out a motive for anyone who would want to kill Tristan Bodette. They are also trying to figure somewhat of a haunting

history of shootings at this park like the one that happened last year and still remains a mystery.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MELISS TATANGELO, SHOT AT WHILE CAMPING IN THE SAME PARK: I walked around the back and at first I thought it was a joke. I thought someone put a

sticker on my car. But I thought maybe I backed into something I didn`t know. Then my boyfriend walked around and said it`s a bullet hole. And I

said, OK. It is, right? So we need to do something.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: Joining me is a CNN correspondent Paul Vercammen who is covering the story, CNN law enforcement analyst and former FBI assistant director

Tom Fuentes, and defense attorney Darren Kavinoky is still with me.

Paul Vercammen, first to you, you just heard Meliss Tatangelo say that last year she got a bullet through her car. Now we have a bullet through a dad

sleeping beside two small children. What`s happening in that park?

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, detectives were very firm in telling me, Ashleigh, that they have found no link between that shooting

involving the car and the fatal shooting in the tent. And what they are stressing is, there have been incidents in this park in which, as you saw,

a bullet went through a bumper, but they were not homicides. They were criminal in their actions, but they cannot be, you know, suggested that

this was some sort of, you know, serial killer who`s haunting this campground. They want to be very careful about that, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: And you know, you never say that two incidents is a pattern, necessarily. But it`s not just two. There have been other shootings as

well. What do we know about the other shootings there?

VERCAMMEN: Well, they are investigating all of these just in case that there is a link. But they are focusing on this one. And as you pointed

out, Ashleigh, they have absolutely no motive, and they told me anything is on the table right now. They say for now they are ruling out suicide. But

what`s complicating things is, right now, who seems to be the best witnesses, these two little girls, two and four. They are currently having

discussions with the family about bringing in one of those forensic investigators who specializes in interviewing children. And that has not

happened yet.

BANFIELD: And just to be really --

VERCAMMEN: Yes?

BANFIELD: Yes. Just to be really clear about how this played out, Paul. It`s a crowded campground, about 60 different camp sites. There were some

ear witnesses who heard a shot go off around 4:45 in the morning, local time. Do we know anything beyond that? Meaning, did someone come running

out to this tent and hear two little girls crying or hear a man gasping for air? Is there any other description of how this played out, especially as

pertains to those little babies?

VERCAMMEN: Well, this sounds like a combination of factors. Because, one, as we said, detectives are -- they are very serious in saying this. I

mean, sometimes you get the line. But they say that they absolutely don`t have any leads. Not a vehicle description. Nothing like that. And as you

point out, 4:44 a.m. So this happens in the pre-dawn blackness in this rural campground. This is 25 miles away from Los Angeles. And it is

sprawling, Ashleigh. There`s some 25 miles of hiking trails through here. So --

[19:25:08] BANFIELD: I`m glad you mentioned that because this is a strange place. This isn`t just any kind of state park. There`s a real storied

history to this location. This was made famous because 21st century FOX actually owned this property. It was used quite frequently, in fact, as a

background location for movies. And maybe one of the most famous scenes that people will recognize is the opening credits to "M.A.S.H." I want to

play it so that people know exactly the area that we are talking about. Have a look.

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BANFIELD: So that was supposed to look like South Korea. However, that is the area that we are talking about here, Paul. It`s just kind of eerie to

be able to see that now put the area, you know, put this exact location out of words and into image.

Real quickly, what else do we know about his wife? Because Tristan`s wife was apparently studying for an exam. That`s why he took the girls camping.

But I can only imagine that police have to look at everybody, including family members.

VERCAMMEN: Well, they are looking at her. We understand that she was studying to be a doctor. We also seem to get an understanding this is a

very smart family. I mean, this Tristan himself is a Ph.D. recipient from Berkeley, University of California at Berkeley. He is a senior at

Allergan, the company which is now mourning his loss. So this Ph.D. genius is someone who had a high impact in the pharmaceutical industry, was based

in California.

And we know that the couple was planning to move and start new jobs in the San Francisco bay area. Let me read from a statement that was given to us

by Allergan. Of course, they say first and foremost they are trying to help the wife and the family. But it says Tristan will be remembered as a

talented scientist who is admired by all who knew him and a meaningful contributor to our company`s research and development efforts.

So as you said, Ashleigh, they are going to fan out and try to quiz anybody who might know anything about what is a murder mystery in an idyllic,

highly popular state park.

BANFIELD: So strange. Maybe Tom Fuentes, you can lend a little help here in terms of where do you begin? I mean, this is weird. It is in the

middle of nowhere. You saw the "M.A.S.H." sequence. That`s exactly where this happens. You have two little girls in a tent with dad at 4:45 a.m.

So you know, what does your law enforcement analysis brain start thinking now? Where do you start with this investigation?

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, in the first place, Ashleigh, I would like the know more about what forensic work was done at

the crime scene at the time of the event. Did that bullet come from outside the tent? Did somebody stick their head in the tent and stick the

gun in the tent and shoot him that way? Maybe they were all three asleep at the time it happened? Were there footprints outside? Were there tire

prints? Were there any other fibers or other material evidence around the camp site that might lead to information about this?

Then after the forensic work, and then, of course, the work on the victim, the recovery of the bullet. Can they identify what caliber gun it was?

Can they identify, is there a bullet casing that was a semiautomatic pistol, a bullet casing laying in the dirt nearby that would reveal

possibly the caliber of the gun also, and would be able to be identified to a specific firearm at a later date if they recovered one?

BUSCHOW: Yes.

FUENTES: In the investigation. And then of course you look at all of the personal factors of the people involved.

BUSCHOW: Of course, that`s always part of the deal. Well, they are not releasing a lot of information yet. But we are going to keep following

this, you know, to see what we can glean. Although, it`s just such a weird mystery. And I feel like I know that area having watched "M.A.S.H." almost

every day of my whole life growing up.

Paul Vercammen, thank you.

Tom Fuentes, thank you as well.

Darren Kavinoky, I`m going to ask you to stick around.

Tonight a sign of the times, as Washington state police get two huge breaks in cold case investigations that go back decades. 66-year-old Gary Hartman

making his first court appearance after an arrest for the murder in 1986 of 12-year-old Michellea Welch. This is the second cold case arrest in a

month for the Tacoma police department.

In May 60-year-old Robert Washburn was pulled in, arrested and charged in the murder of 13-year-old Jennifer Bastian. Strangely enough, Jennifer was

also killed in 1986. Pierce County prosecute attorney says as more people are participating in all these genealogy websites, trying to find their

family links, they just so happen to be providing the keys to cracking these cases. And by the way, they are issuing a warning to anybody out

there hoping to get away with murder.

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[19:30:02] MARK LINDQUIST, PIERCE COUNTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY: Today, we are at a point where if you`re a criminal, and you`ve left your DNA at the

scene, you might as well turn yourself in now. We will catch you.

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BANFIELD: These two arrests and the April arrest of the Golden State Killer, allegedly James Joseph DeAngelo, highlight the fact that police

investigations have really, really turned the corner. So, it`s probably worthwhile to echo Mark Lindquist`s warning to any rapists or murderers out

there hiding in plain sight, thinking, it was ages ago, they`ll never find me. Turns out there is no escape and there is no recourse because your DNA

is linked to somebody, and those somebodies want to know who they`re connected to. And the police want to know about you.

We also have breaking news tonight, California`s Call Girl Killer now facing murder charges in Georgia. It is the second death she`s connected

to. And this is breaking news just today, all of it years after pleading guilty for the overdose death of her millionaire sugar daddy on a Santa

Cruz yacht. Yes, it sounds like a movie. And we`ll break it all down, next.

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[19:36:14] BANFIELD: It had all the makings of an R-rated movie, an expensive call girl, bag full of drugs, a million-dollar yacht. Throw in

the rich executive with the wife and kids, five kids, and you`ve got yourself a blockbuster. Only in this story, the Google exec ends up dead,

with an armful of heroin, and the call girl gets pinned for the crime. It probably didn`t help that she was caught on surveillance sipping some wine

before packing up her things and leaving that yacht without calling 911. And it probably didn`t help that a cop had to pose as yet another sugar

daddy in order to get her into handcuffs seven months after the fact.

Well, now Alix Tickleman is out of jail and she is telling her side of the story. All at the very moment that we`re getting breaking news about yet

another death, eerily similar, only she has yet to face the rap on this one because it`s looking like the girl who was known as the "Harbor Hooker", or

the "Call Girl Killer," depending on what story you`re reading, is going to have to get used to defending herself.

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ALIX TICHELMAN, ALLEGED CALL GIRL KILLER: Anyone that knows me or has known me knows that I would never intentionally hurt someone. And so, for

the police to like so sensationalize it and, you know, try to portray to everyone that I`m some kind of serial killer, it`s just -- it`s just dumb.

I especially don`t like the name "Harbor Hooker". It just -- I get like a vision of a girl walking around the harbor looking for fishermen.

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BANFIELD: With me now, a couple of panelists who are going to help me sort this out, but not before we get to the breaking news on this story, which

our producer Kyle Peltz has just unearthed. Kyle, this is very strange. We were looking at doing a story about a woman who served her time, was

deported and was going to tell us her side of the story. And then all of a sudden, it started getting a lot bigger, shall we say today. What happened

today that changes everything for this young woman?

PELTZ (via telephone): That`s right. It happened literally minutes before we went to air. She was speaking out on T.V. telling her side of the story

about the death of that Google executive. But right before we went to air, Ashleigh, we found out that she`s been slapped with two murder charges in

the State of Georgia.

BANFIELD: Two murder charges. And as I understand it, this was something we knew about, but we certainly didn`t think that the authorities were at

this stage of the game. We knew that there had been another boyfriend in her past who had died of an overdose, correct?

PELTZ: That`s right. It happened about two months before the death of that Google executive. It was a former boyfriend of Alix`s. His name was

Dean Riopelle. And like you said, the medical examiner back in 2013 ruled his death an accidental overdose from heroin and alcohol. But now, she`s

charged with his murder.

BANFIELD: And so, they -- the Georgia authorities, after the California case wrapped up with the Google exec on the yacht, the plea, the time

served, and the -- and the deportation of Alix, the authorities in Georgia said, you know, this doesn`t smell right. So, they took another look at

the overdose case of the boyfriend. And, I mean, as I was working all day, the status was that the results of the investigation had been turned over

to the prosecutors and it`s a wait and see game. And then boom, like you said, within the last hour or so, she`s got -- is it two charges, or two

indictments for felony murder?

[19:39:52] PELTZ: That`s exactly right, two charges of felony murder. And actually, both relates to the same former boyfriend of hers. One charge

is, you know, the grand jury has said that she distributed heroin, which caused his death. He was also intoxicated with alcohol. And the other

charge, they say oxycodone that she distributed caused his death.

BANFIELD: It`s just unbelievable. Amy Larson, jump in here if you will because you`re the digital media manager for CNN Affiliate KSBW. And you

actually did the interview. And Darren Kavinoky, I`ll ask you about this in a minute, but Amy, we didn`t expect this to be the story tonight. We

expected to talk to you about your interview with Alix. That she`s got her life going in a whole new direction, et cetera. Did you have any idea, A,

while you were doing the interview that this was about to come down, and B, did she have any idea that this was about to come down as she was saying

all these things to you?

LARSON: I truly had absolutely no idea. I did a series of four interviews with Alix last week and very candid interviews, which you can find on

KSBW.com. And wow, I`m truly stunned. She talked to me about Dean`s death. And she told me she wasn`t even at home at the time that he

overdosed on drugs. So I`m stunned. I just reached out to Alix within the last 10 minutes. She`s stunned, she had no idea. She unfortunately, you

know, just found out, and she`s at a loss for words, just like I am, truly stunning.

BANFIELD: Well, I don`t know about unfortunately. I sort of look at this woman as having caused a death of another man, and possibly, allegedly, a

death of yet a second man. So, I sort of think, wait for the RCMP to come knocking on your door in Canada. Because they`re apparently working with

the Canadians. This is very difficult, though, extradition from Canada when you`re in death penalty state and felony murder to be death penalty

crime, it gets very, very ticklish, let`s just say. Pardon the pun. So, real quickly, I want to play a part of your interview, Amy, where I`ve got

to be honest, it sounds like Alix gives a million different reasons for why she had a few sips of that wine, stepped over the body of Forrest Hayes as

he was O.D.`ing and walked out of that yacht, putting the blinds down and moving on. It sounds like she`s giving a million different reasons for it,

none of them, I`m wrong. But have a listen to how she put it.

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TICHELMAN: When he fell unconscious, I did try to revive him, and to no avail. And I was very upset, I was crying and trying to wake him up. And

the police said that I was coldly and calmly walking around the boat. And that`s not the case at all. I was like -- I was in a complete panic. And

in that world, you know, with seeking arrangement, discretion is the most important thing. And I did know that he was a married man. Though, it was

not the correct choice, I was inebriated as I had, you know, been -- I was on Valium. I had injected myself first. I was not thinking correctly.

And I figured that -- I didn`t know that he was in immediate distress. It looked to me like he was still breathing and just looked like he had passed

out. I know that in the past, I`ve done drugs and passed out, not woken up until 24 hours later. And so, I figured it was something like that, which

was wishful thinking. And, you know, I just wanted to make it look like no one had been there. So, that I didn`t get him in trouble with his wife or

the police or his workplace.

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BANFIELD: Well, that`s a whole lot of reasons as to why she`s now telling us she`s not a murderer. And she`s not. She pled to involuntary

manslaughter. But now, she`s facing two counts of murder. Hold on, Amy, for a second. She mentioned the seeking arrangement business. That`s how

they caught her. That`s how she ended up with that victim. But how do you suppose they`re going to catch her now? Because murder? Well, it doesn`t

get more serious than that in Georgia.

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BANFIELD: We`re still talking about the so-called "Call Girl Killer," the young California escort who met her older married John on his yacht, and

then injected him with heroin before he collapsed and she left him to die. She has done her time behind bars for that night, and now she`s speaking

out, saying there`s a whole other side to her story, just as we learned that Alix Tichelman is now facing murder charges for a totally different

death with totally similar features.

[19:50:14] My panel is still with me. I want to play this piece from your interview, Amy Larson, where Alix sort of tells us when she knew the jig

was up and that she was being arrested. Have a listen.

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TICHELMAN: The moment I realized that I was going to be arrested was when I hugged him in a way of greeting and he didn`t hug me back. And I felt a

bulletproof vest underneath his shirt and I knew right then that I was going to jail.

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BANFIELD: Amy Larson, when you just talked to her about this whole brand- new spade of charges, two felony murder charges, did she say she knows she`s about to be arrested again? Did she say she`s going to turn herself

in? Did she say anything?

LARSON: She was -- she was shocked. She had no idea. I sent her the press release from the district attorney that just came in a few minutes

ago and she had no idea.

BANFIELD: Wow! Darren Kavinoky, weigh in on this. From a legal standpoint, she`s in Canada because she was deported, but it`s real hard to

get people back out of Canada when you try to extradite into a death penalty state. This makes it complicated.

KAVINOKY: Well, we see this happen all the time, Ashleigh, where when somebody is extradited from a country that does not have the death penalty

to the United States in a state that does, oftentimes there will be something in the extradition agreement where the country that has the

person will only return them if that state agrees not to pursue the death penalty. But what`s really interesting to me in this particular case is

that Georgia appears to be taking a very expansive view towards this felony murder rule to be able to tease this into a murder charge.

Normally, the felony murder rule applies where there`s a killing, whether it`s intended or not during the commission of an inherently dangerous

felony, something like burglary, arson, robbery, rape, kidnapping. So, for example, let`s say, you and I decide to hold up the liquor store and I

shoot the store clerk, even though you have no intention to harm anybody, you can be charged with felony murder because we`re engaged in an

inherently dangerous activity. So, it`s a -- it`s a very, as I said, expansive notion to say, well, she was involved in drug distribution. And

at some point, this individual overdosed from those drugs, they`re not engaged in the commission of a felony at the time of the overdose based on

how I`m understanding the facts. And drug distribution in and of itself is not an inherently dangerous felony.

BANFIELD: Yes. But you know what, Darren? You know what, if you do something illegal and then you are in the commission of a felony and the

person dies, doesn`t have to die right then, they can die eight months, 10 months, 10 years later, you can still face the music for it.

KAVINOKY: Of course, I understand that. But I think one of the interesting threads that we have between this story and some others is the

unintended consequences that often befall people who are engaged in drug- related offenses.

BANFIELD: Surprise, surprise, it happens. I got to leave it there, but I need you guys to come back on this one because this was all breaking right

as we came to -- you know, to show time. But, Amy, keep the phones hot and let us know what happens when you next speak with Ms. Tichelman. I`d be

curious to find out if there`s a knock on her door from the -- from the RCMP. Thank you, both, appreciate it.

I`ve got three words for you, drunk, naked, and casino. And "ONE MORE THING," the video is next.

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BANFIELD: Got "ONE MORE THING" for you tonight. You have probably heard of strip poker, maybe you`ve even played it. But it was no game when a man

stripped down to his birthday suit in Louisiana casino and proceeded to run wild throughout it. Even throwing chairs at the Bossier City Police

officers who were trying to catch him. They tried everything, they tried pepper spray, no dice, it didn`t work. And so they fired bean bags at him.

Again, no dice, the bean bags, he just took off. Look at this, running. Jumping tables, dashing between the slot machines. Five cops in close

pursuit finally caught him. Terrence Roquemore is now facing a so-called "laundry list," yes, that`s a pun of charges, including public intoxication

and aggravated assault on a peace officer.

Oh, and he`s also going to have to face the internet, as well, because that`s on the internet. We`ll see you back here tomorrow night 6:00

Eastern. Thanks so much for watching, everybody. You can listen to our show anytime, download our podcast on Apple Podcast, iHeart Radio,

Stitcher, TuneIn, or wherever you get your podcast for your CRIME & JUSTICE fix. "INSIDE EVIL WITH CHRIS CUOMO" begins right now.

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