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Calls to Cancel Trump/Russia Summit after Indictments as Trump Still Claims Probe a Witch Hunt; National Intelligence Warns Russia Threat Far from Over; DOJ Charges 12 Russian Agents Ahead of Trump/Putin Summit; Manhunt Under Way for Protester Paragliding over Trump; Trump Administration Has New Plan to Reunite Immigrant Families; 2 Georgia Officers in Hot Water for Using Coin-Flip App; Thai Soccer Players Send Messages to Rescuers. Aired 1-2p ET
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[13:00:00] MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: Let's get started with the political chaos that's surrounding that highly anticipated Trump/Putin summit. The meeting is still on. And the White House says that the two leaders will speak to the press after their sit-down.
All of this after Special Counsel Robert Mueller's latest indictments in the Russia probe. Those indictments have sent cries throughout Washington for the president to cancel his summit. Top senate Democrats just sent a letter to President Trump asking him to not meet Putin alone, saying he's, quote, "not a friend of the United States."
And all of this as President Trump weighs in on the latest indictments by blaming former President Obama instead of condemning Russia. The president still calling the probe a witch hunt. But it's important to note Mueller's probe has now brought 191 criminal charges and 35 defendants.
CNN's White House correspondent, Abby Phillip, live in Glasgow, Scotland, and the president is nearby at his golf club. CNN global affairs correspondent, Elise Labott is live in D.C. And CNN crime and justice reporter, Shimon Prokupecz, is standing by with the details on the indictment from Mueller's team.
We'll start with Abby Phillip.
Abby, what are you hearing from the White House there?
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORREPONDENT: Hi, Martin. The president is not too far from here at his golf course, and has spent some of the morning tweeting about these indictments from yesterday. Remember, the White House yesterday released a statement on those indictments, the latest in a string coming from the Mueller investigation. By not acknowledging in any way that there was an attack on the United States perpetrated based on some of the evidence by Putin and his associates, and President Trump continues that trend. In a tweet this morning, blaming President Obama for not doing enough to stop the attack while it was happening, he said, "The stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday took place during the Obama administration, not the Trump administration." He says, "Why didn't they do something about it, especially when it was reported that President Obama was informed by the FBI in September, before the election?"
But President Trump isn't mentioning that there were several steps that the Obama administration attempted to take before the election to try to address this. The then-CIA Director John Brennan talking to his counterparts, warning them to cut it out before the election. President Obama, in a meeting with Vladimir Putin, did the same. And Obama officials tried to warn state-level election officials that they should be on the lookout for potential intrusions before the 2016 election.
Now, of course, the president has a point. Because some Obama administration officials do say that they wish they had done more. But at the same time, it's clear here this was an attack. The Mueller probe is now producing 32 indictments of individuals. Three companies indicted. And President Trump still seems hesitant to call Putin out on it.
The White House is also saying he's going to go forward with this summit in Helsinki with Putin. They're going to have some kind of news conference, but it's not clear if President Trump is going to take questions with Vladimir Putin or not. But either way, lookers both in the United States and elsewhere are looking to see how forcefully President Trump is willing to address this issue. But it seems, Martin, based on his comments on Twitter today that he is not willing to frame this in the way that a lot of folks would like it to be, as something that needs to be confronted directly with Putin in a face-to-face meeting -- Martin?
SAVIDGE: All right, Abby Phillip, there in Glasgow, Scotland. Thanks very much. Getting a view from there.
CNN's global affairs correspondent, Elise Labott, joins us.
Elise, there's been little time to plan for this summit, especially given the complexity of the diplomatic issues that are happening. Is there kind of a diplomatic effect happening, a fallout, if you will, because of these indictments?
ELISE LABOTT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Marty, there's a lot to unpack just there. Because obviously, President Trump has a lot of issues to talk about with President Putin. Our understanding is he really hasn't spent that much time prepping, dealing with his advisers, kind of, you know, his attention span on the kind of nitty- gritty of those particular issues not very long. And so I don't think advisers think he's going into this with a real grasp of the issues. That's number one.
And then you have the indictments themselves. Listen, for President Trump, right after the indictments, to continue to blame President Obama, blame, you know, what he calls a witch hunt in this investigation, goes into the meeting with President Putin, suggesting that he doesn't think it's a problem, it's an almost invitation for President Putin to continue not just interfering in the elections in the United States, but some of the other places that President Trump is supposed to be getting tough on President Putin for his meddling. And that's in elections across Europe, whether it was post-Brexit, whether it was Italy, whether it was France. A lot of concern about his election meddling across the spectrum.
So when you take that along with the fact that President Trump leaves NATO with a real division from U.S. allies, he isn't really going into the meeting with President Putin having the upper hand, which if he had handled these issues differently, could go into the meeting in a much stronger position to get what he wants from President Putin -- Marty?
[13:05:10] SAVIDGE: Elise, let me ask you this, you were on the plane with Secretary of State Pompeo yesterday as he flew back from Mexico. So what was his reaction after the indictments were handed down? Did he think maybe they should change the dynamic?
LABOTT: Not at all. I mean, he said he had a chance to speak to President Trump about the indictments. The president was abroad. He was with several other cabinet officials in Mexico. But he said he believed that the meeting should go ahead. He thinks the U.S. will be in a much better place with Russia after this summit. Marty, he didn't say why or offer any evidence to that. But he does think that the meeting should go ahead.
SAVIDGE: Yes, he's obviously sticking with the administration.
All right. Elise Labott, thank you very much.
Even as these indictments hang over this Russia summit, there's a new warning from the head of the national -- U.S. National Intelligence, that the threat is far from over.
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DAN COATS, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: It was in the months prior to September 2001 when, according to then-CIA Director George Tenet, the system was blinking red. And here we are two decades, nearly two decades later, and I'm here to say the warning lights are blinking red again.
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SAVIDGE: Joining me now, Josh Rogin, a CNN political analyst and columnist for the "Washington Post." Matt Viser, a CNN political analyst and deputy Washington bureau chief at the "Boston Globe." And Alina Polyakova, a Russian expert at the Brookings Institute.
Matt, I'll start with you.
The head of the National Intelligence said right there the threat from Russia is not over, but in an administration that appears to be, well, in denial over election meddling, will anyone heed Dan Coats' warning?
MATT VISER, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: There has been some efforts on the state level. Secretaries of state have started getting security clearance to coordinate a little bit with the Department of Homeland Security officials. Some states are actually considering going back to paper ballots, either as a sort of catch all for prohibiting any electronic tampering, and have that ready. So there's some action being taken place. But when the head of the government, President Trump, is still denying somewhat the impact of election meddling, it does make it hard to take it seriously up and down the government.
SAVIDGE: Alina, let's switch now, you know, to the summit that is going to take place. And what is Vladimir Putin, what does he get out of this?
ALINA POLYAKOVA:, RUSSIAN EXPERT, THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE: Well, Putin has everything to win and nothing to lose in the summit. Just the optics, the Russian president sitting across the table from the American president is a huge win from the Russian point of view, two great men, deciding about the fate of the world. He also has a lot of potential concussion concessions he will try to get. Putin has been a savvy reader of characters, a very savvy reader of previous American presidents. He will certainly try to use President Trump's affinity towards him to try to get some concessions on whether they be NATO military commitments or commitments to Europe as well.
SAVIDGE: Alina, do you think they should meet privately as they're going to so?
POLYAKOVA: I think meetings and dialogue between the United States and Russia are a very good idea and they should happen at all levels. The strange thing about the summit is we're see everything happen in reverse. Usually, you would have the meetings from the bottom up and the very last meeting is a meeting of the two presidents. And this administration's doing everything backwards. I think that's the troubling part here.
SAVIDGE: Josh, I read your article. You're very concerned that Trump and Putin are going to discuss Syria and there actually could be some kind of deal that is struck out of this and that it could be a very bad deal for both the people in Syria and for the United States. What are you worried about?
JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, that's right. President Trump has been very clear he wants to pull U.S. troops out of Syria. About 2,200 U.S. troops in the north and another couple hundred in the south. And the deal that he's discussing, which was also discussed with King Abdullah, of Jordan, who has discussed it also with Vladimir Putin, would involve handing over large parts of Syria to the Assad regime, the Russians, with a promise to push out the Iranians, a promise not backed by any real enforcement mechanisms. For President Trump, that may achieve his goal of getting the United States out of Syria. For the people in his administration and the people in Syria and the people around the region, it creates a huge risk that the Assad regime, Russia and Iran will actually expand their control, expand their atrocities, resulting in more extremism, more refugees, and a greater threat to the region, Europe and the United States. Now, we don't know if he's going to strike that deal. We don't know if they're going to move towards that deal. That's what's being discussed. And that will have huge implications. Again, not just for Syria, but for our national security. And because of the Trump -- President Trump has been so determined to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, the concern, again, amongst his own top national security officials is that he'll do so in a reckless and haphazard way that will make the problems worse, extend the war, extend the atrocities, and make our national security even more imperiled.
[13:10:33] SAVIDGE: When you say a haphazard way, kind of like the deal he struck with the North Korean leader?
ROGIN: We compare it to the way Obama pulled U.S. troops out of Iraq in 2011, which seemed like a political win but was followed by a resurgence of al Qaeda in Iraq, which then became ISIS, which then created a huge problem for the United States, which had to come back in the region in 2014. That's what Trump is risking, that he'll get us out but create a much worse problem and we'll find ourselves back in the region with a much worse problem on our hands only a couple years from now.
SAVIDGE: Mr. Viser, I know I mispronounced your name. I'm sorry.
The president said he will discuss election meddling. Do you really believe he's going to do that with any kind of force?
VIZER: I believe he'll bring it up, but probably without much force. He said yesterday that don't expect, you know, don't expect a Perry Mason moment. He will ask Putin if he meddled and Putin will say no. The problem with that is President Trump shouldn't really have to ask Putin if he did it. If he believes American intelligence information, and if he believes these indictments that were handed down yesterday, he doesn't need President Putin to admit to it. We know, based on our own U.S. intelligence, that the type of meddling and how it was done. So the question is, is what we want Russia to do about it. And, you know, I don't have great confidence that anything is going to come of that. It's almost like a check-list item that President Trump wants to dispatch with at the top of the meeting.
SAVIDGE: Alina, how much of, you know, a fly in the ointment are these indictments? They come just days before the two men meet. They're extremely serious. And they would have thought they had everything all set and ready to go and now they've got to face this. How big a problem is it for these two leaders?
POLYAKOVA: The timing certainly does not seem like it was a coincidence.
SAVIDGE: No, it doesn't.
POLYAKOVA: It seems very much strategic on the DOJ to send a very clear warning shot to Russia, to Mr. Putin, specifically, that the United States is continuing the investigation and that, in fact, U.S. intelligence knows exactly what the Russians did in the 2016 elections.
I think for President Trump, since he seems set to continue to have this meeting with President Putin on Monday, he should use this as leverage to really push Putin on interference and also push him in other items, like Ukraine, like this deal in Syria, that Putin's trying to propose as an olive branch but without any real enforcement or compliance assurances behind it. I would like to see President Trump take a much stronger stance and use these indictments as leverage against Putin. SAVIDGE: And if the president doesn't take a tougher stance, Josh,
could Congress impose for the sanctions, say, on Russia, or on these Russian oligarchs as a result of the indictments?
ROGIN: I think you'll see increased activity in both chambers, in both parties, to assert the will of Congress on behalf of the American people, to encourage and, in fact, pressure the president of the United States to reinforce America's position on things like NATO, trade, Russia, Putin, you name it, OK. It's not having an effect, OK. The Congress can pass all the bills it wants. It's very hard for them to force the president of the United States to do anything. If President Trump is determined to make huge concessions to Vladimir Putin or not take election meddling serious, there are some things Congress can do, but they can't overcome that obstacle. Congress is making its voice known. It's better than nothing. I think if you see a terrible summit where the president of the United States continues to obfuscate and deny and play down what is now his own Justice Department calls a very severe attack on American democracy, I think that will reinvigorate Congress to do even more. But they can't change Trump and they can't change Trump's mind. As long as the president of the United States refuses to defend America from this attack, that will be a huge problem that neither Congress nor anyone else in this country will be able to solve.
SAVIDGE: Matt, real quick, you get the last say. Do you expect any surprises out of this summit?
VISER: I think there's always surprises with President Trump. I mean, we've seen that throughout his trip that there's a lot of unpredictability about what he does. I think the actions yesterday from the Department of Justice certainly raise the gravity of the meeting and --
SAVIDGE: But he knew they were coming?
VISER: He did. But we didn't. You know, so I think that moment and the anticipation for how these two men meet and what comes out of it is even greater than I think it already was. It already was pretty high.
[13:15:10] SAVIDGE: Yes, you're right about that.
Josh Rogin, Matt Viser, Alina Polyakova, thank you very much.
The White House says the latest indictments in the Russia probe have nothing to do with President Trump. Next, we'll look at the potential legal jeopardy for the president and his inner circle.
Plus, two Georgia police officers under scrutiny right now for an arrest after their game of chance using a coin-toss app.
[13:19:44] SAVIDGE: The White House is vowing to keep President Trump's meeting with Vladimir Putin despite the growing evidence that Moscow is directly involved on infiltrating the 2016 U.S. election. On Friday, the Justice Department announced the indictments of a dozen Russia intelligence agents, charging them with multiple accounts from identity fraud to money laundering.
Joining me now, CNN crime and justice reporter, Shimon Prokupecz.
Shimon, we've made a lot about the diplomatic potential fallout from all of this, but this indictment actually gives us a very interesting and significant view into how the Russians carried this all out, right?
SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN CRIME & JUSTICE REPORTER: Yes, quite significant. There's so much detail in terms of how this military operation, the intelligence operation here, some senior-level people within the Russian government, were part of this. They essentially put together this team, you know, in talking to officials -- they call them hacking squads. Some 12 people who really were very well organized. And that's where the sophistication lies in all of this is the organization and persistence of this group to try to get inside systems of the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was their persistency is what surprised government officials in that they tried for months. They tried, some 300 people, who they sent these fake e-mails to, hoping they would click them. Therefore, which would then allow the Russians inside their e-mails and their servers.
The other thing here is the Russians tried to cover their tracks. They had a server in Malaysia that they built and they hired and were paying for. They had a server in the U.S. that they were -- that they had purchased and were paying for. While they were trying to, in many ways, mask who they were, in the end, what this shows us is our capabilities, the U.S. government's capabilities is strong as well in trying to track this. Marty, what's happening here is we know that the U.S. government, the FBI in our intelligence partner certainly were all over this group at some point. They knew everything they were doing, from the details as to what each person in this group was responsible for, to their communications, to how they were celebrating the success of their operation. All of this is really stunning and tells us that the U.S. government's capabilities are pretty good in this situation.
SAVIDGE: And given that, what happens now?
PROKUPECZ: Well, this criminal case just kind of lies in wait. You know, if one of these military officials ever travels to a country where they can get extradited, certainly, our folks would be in contact with those countries. Look, their travel will be monitored. They'll get flagged if they get on a plane somewhere and perhaps it's to a country where we can extradite them from. That can happen. But if they never leave Russia, the chances of us ever getting them without the president putting any kind of pressure on Putin is just not going to happen. There are many Russians, certainly, computer hackers, other kinds of fugitives, that the U.S. government wants. These guys will on the top list. Without pressure from the president, who, as we know, is going to be meeting with Vladimir Putin on Monday, nothing will happen.
SAVIDGE: All comes back to that. Shimon Prokupecz, thank you very much for the update.
Now I'm joined by CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, Shan Wu.
More Russians indicted. We didn't hear of any Americans in this latest indictment, at least so far. What conclusions do we draw?
SHAN WU, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I think the conclusions we can draw for now are that the extensive detail that Shimon was just mentioning really does a great job of tracking and blueprinting exactly how the Russian agents were doing this. I think the missing piece and the million-dollar question is, is there a second half of this investigation? Will there be more focus or perhaps more criminal charges on domestic people, some of the unnamed but widely speculated about identities in the indictment? Might not be, but it's possible it could happen.
SAVIDGE: And the president has made much out of the fact that, so far, at least no Americans are charged or named in these latest indictments. But Rod Rosenstein said yesterday that the special counsel's investigation is ongoing. So, you sort of allude there's another shoe to drop here, there's more to come, obviously.
WU: There certainly could be more to come. It's interesting, at that press conference, Rosenstein introduced the chief of the National Security Division. And I'm sure that the president's people will spin that as it's a handoff, Mueller's winding down, but it's also a message that, even were Mueller to be fired, for example, main justice, the National Security Division would continue to do this. It's a handoff to them. Mueller has done that a couple of times now.
SAVIDGE: It will continue to give it life.
There's at least one American, a former campaign Trump adviser, Roger Stone, and he believes that he's being looked at in the Mueller probe.
We want to have you listen to his defense, when he spoke with CNN's Chris Cuomo. Take a listen.
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ROGER STONE, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ADVISOR: I have testified under oath to the House Intelligence Committee that I certainly had a 24- word exchange with the persona Guccifer 2.0 over Twitter, direct messages. Any person who would read that exchange, which is included in the indictment, will see that, based on content, context and timing, it's benign, it's innocuous. So in retrospect --
STONE: -- I think I probably am the person referred to.
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[13:25:24] SAVIDGE: So he's sort of ruling himself in and he seemed to be trying to rule himself out at the same time. Do you think Roger Stone should be worried?
WU: I think Roger Stone is worried right now. And any time one finds themselves so front and center in an indictment, that's something to worry about. Certainly, the defense he's making right now is a plausible one. It's logical for him to say that he did not know these were Russian intelligence agents. The question is going to be, what is the context and what else did they know and what else can they find out more with regard to his knowledge. Because it's really going to be his state of mind that makes or breaks him there.
SAVIDGE: Let me ask you this, because this is a question I wanted to ask someone with your smarts as you have. Does this give us any indication that the Mueller probe is either widening or is it winding down?
WU: I think it's hard to say. I think what it does tell us is that Mueller is comfortable with transitioning. He's comfortable with perhaps setting a transition for an emergency plan in case he gets fired. He's not an ideologue or zealot. This is not a Ken Starr investigation where he's showing he's going to be out to get the president. Mueller's out to do the job and to do it as well as he can and to get it done. I've worked with Bob Mueller in the same office, and he's a very professional man. This has been a very aggressive, very fast-moving investigation, quite extraordinarily so.
SAVIDGE: And lastly, we've seen, you know, the 12 Russians who are now indicted. I think Shimon is already alluding to the fact, the likelihood they'll ever be in a U.S. courtroom is virtually nil. Do you agree?
WU: I agree. First, there's no extradition treaty. Second, these people are seasoned professionals. They're not going to make a mistake of accidentally winding up in a country where they might get stopped and extradited.
SAVIDGE: So that being the case, what do these indictments really do?
WU: I think, very importantly, the indictments send a message, which the president may not want to convey, but that the United States knows what they did. They're naming them, they're outing them that way, saying these are the actual people and this is how he did it, and we know that. I think it's interesting, from a main justice standpoint, from the Department of Justice standpoint. The president would normally have been briefed on this long before the indictments come out. And it's possible that we're seeing this timing of the indictments before his meeting with Putin as being the only way that his Justice Department can make him pay attention to this. That he may just be ignoring it. But by putting indictments out there, he's got to deal with it.
SAVIDGE: Right, very interesting point.
Shan Wu, thank you very much.
WU: Thanks. SAVIDGE: Still ahead, the hunt's on for a paragliding Trump protester who breached security during the president's visit to Scotland. We'll have a live report on how it all happened.
[13:32:40] MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: I'm sure you've probably seen them. Anti-Trump protesters are following the president on his overseas trip. First, filling the streets of London and, today, they're gathered in Scotland.
Now, though, currently, there's a manhunt under way for a paragliding protester who hovered very close to President Trump while he walked around his Scotland golf resort.
CNN's Phil Black is following the search and he joins me now.
Phil, good to see you.
What security risk did this paraglider really pose to the president?
PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the police in Scotland are certainly very concerned about this, Martin, because of the proximity, the fact this paraglider piloted by a Greenpeace activist was able to come in so low, so close to President Donald Trump's Turnberry Golf Resort, not long after the president himself had arrived at the location.
So the pictures show it did get very close to the buildings, to the resort itself.
According to Greenpeace, President Trump was actually visible outside of those buildings inspecting the ground at the time that this flyby took place. This paraglider came in, streaming very close to those buildings with an anti-Trump banner flying behind it. Greenpeace, this was all about making sure that President Trump at least saw one protester while he was here in Scotland.
Now police are trying to find out who was piloting that, they say, because this person has broken the law they believe. There are airspace restrictions in place over the resort to protect the president, and by breaching those restrictions, they say the pilot has, in fact, broken the law.
That's just one person, one organization showing that it's unhappy with President Trump's visit to Scotland. Here on streets in Edinburgh today, there were thousands of them, police estimate 9,000 people, marching through the city, rallying. There was singing, chanting, something of a carnival atmosphere, really, families, lots of banners, chants with very blunt messages. But the overall message was certainly that there are many people here who simply do not welcome President Trump during these couple of days when he's spending some private time in Scotland -- Martin?
SAVIDGE: Phil Black, thanks very much for that report from Scotland. The bagpipes pretty evident behind you. Thank you. The Trump administration now says it has a plan to reunite migrant children separated from their parents at the southern. Currently, there are more than 2,500 children being held at various centers across the country. Over the next two weeks, those families will be eligible to be brought together -- or those families that are eligible will be brought together and reunite at half a dozen government facilities under this plan. Health and Human Services officials say the streamlined vetting process should speed up the reunions so they can meet a court-imposed deadline of July 26th.
CNN's Rosa Flores is covering all of this for us in McAllen, Texas.
Rosa, what more can you tell us about this new plan? It sounds good, but, really, will it work?
[13:35:37] ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, Marty, one of the things that we have learned about this process is that the number of children who were separated usually does not equal the number of children who will be reunited. Now, we learned that from the toddlers who were separated. Now we learn from the government that there are 2,551 children between the ages of 5 and 17 who were separated. And the government has agreed to a new process to expedite these reunions.
Here's what we know about it. They've chosen between six to eight facilities around the country. Parents who are eligible for reunification will be transferred to these facilities. They'll have about a 15-minute interview where officials will determine if they are, indeed, the parent of the child. They will be asked if they're willing to reunite with that child. As soon as officials go through that, then the child will be transferred to the custody of ICE. At that point, the reunification happens.
We should add that the government cautioned that they will follow this process, but that they don't believe this is in the best interest of the children and the best interest of their safety and their security.
And, Marty, you probably remember this, out of those 103 children who were toddlers who were separated, just under 60 were actually reunited. The government here arguing that that was for a reason, because some of the parents had criminal backgrounds or they were not actually the parents, or they were deported and so they were not in this country.
So the big question now is, how many children will actually get reunited? We don't know the answer. But the government trying to work swiftly to meet that deadline July 26th.
SAVIDGE: Real quick, Rosa, when they are reunited, what happens next? Do they remain in custody together or what then?
FLORES: You know, that's one of the big questions, because through this process, the Department of Justice also determined that it's going to be up to the parents now going forward. The parents will have to make that difficult decision. Will they stay in a detention center with their child? Or will they hand them over to Health and Human Services to go through the process that we've learned about a lot in the past few weeks? Then the child can go to a sponsor or a family member, be released to a parent. The parent now has to make that decision in detention.
And the other big question is, according to the Flores agreement, the U.S. government can't hold children for more than 20 days. So then the government is going to have to determine what to do with these family units. Do you keep them together? Do you release them? I can tell you that based on our conversation with immigration attorneys, what they have been seeing is that these families have been released. We've learned about at least nine families here in south Texas.
And, Marty, we're monitoring not just here in south Texas but central Texas. We know of multiple facilities where we're getting information from both inside the detention center from people and people have come out where the families are being reunited. The ones that we know about have been released with their children -- Marty?
[13:39:01] SAVIDGE: Rosa Flores, we appreciate the fact you're covering it so closely for us. Thank you.
Next, controversy after this video surfaces of two Georgia police officers allegedly using an app after pulling over a speeding driver to determine whether someone goes to jail or not.
SAVIDGE: Two police officers in Georgia are in hot water today. They used a coin-flip app after pulling over a speeding driver. The incident was captured on one of the officer's body cams. Just take a look and listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER: A heads or tails.
UNIDENTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER: This is tails, right?
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SAVIDGE: Not the usual crime-fighting tool you might expect.
CNN's Kaylee Hartung is joining me now here on the set.
Kaylee, what was going on here? What was happening?
KAYLEE HARTUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's what the police chief in Roswell, Georgia, is trying to figure out. He sees this behavior as completely inappropriate. In fact, saying he finds it appalling that any law enforcement would trivialize the decision-making process of something as important as the arrest of a person.
What we know is that this woman driver, Sara Webb, was late to work one morning in April. She was speeding down a wet road in bad conditions. She was pulled over by an officer, berated at that time as well. When this officer went back to her vehicle, called for backup, this was the solution in the moment that the two decided on. Used a coin-flip app to decide if they would arrest this woman or release her.
[13:45:08] What's interesting, when you really pay attention to the details of this exchange is they determined tails to mean they would release the driver. Yet, when the coin flip landed on release, on tails, they still chose to arrest her and charged her for reckless driving, too fast for conditions and speeding. This woman, Sara Webb, the driver, didn't know this conversation was taking place. She was arrested, very visibly upset when you see her in the back of the patrol car.
But when prosecutors saw this body cam footage that was uncovered, all charges against her were dismissed. The Roswell Police now conducting an internal investigation, Martin, and these two officers are on administrative leave.
SAVIDGE: We always wondered how justice may be meted out on the side of the road. This doesn't help on the part of some officers.
All right, Kaylee Hartung, thanks very much.
The backlash over the use of a racial slur by the founder of Papa John's Pizza, well, the fallout is continuing. The pizza chain now removing John Schnatter's face from advertising materials. He has appeared on Papa John's Pizza boxes, TV ads, and he's been in the store's interior, at least his image for years. Now the fallout for the company is growing. Several professional sports teams are cutting ties with the pizza chain.
He's speaking out now, offering an apology, and his explanation about what happened. Here's what he says.
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JOHN SCHNATTER, FOUNDER, PAPA JOHNS PIZZA: It wasn't a slur. It was a strategy and media planning and training, and I repeated something that somebody else said, and said we're not going to say that. We don't use that kind of language, vocabulary. And, sure, it got taken out of context and, sure it got twisted, but that doesn't matter. I hurt people's feelings. That's what matters here. And for that, I'm sorry. And I'm disappointed in myself that something like that could happen.
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SAVIDGE: Schnatter resigned his position as chairman of the company's board after it became public that he used the slur in the conference call.
Next, a woman missing for a week after her car plunged over a cliff has been found alive. Where rescuers found her, coming up.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [13:51:45] SAVIDGE: We have good news to tell you. An Oregon woman is lucky to be alive after driving off a California cliff and then waiting more than a week for rescue. The family of Angela Hernandez reported the 23-year-old missing last week. Police and their search turned up nothing. But then a couple, walking in the area, spotted her white Jeep half submerged in the ocean off Big Sur. Hernandez told her rescuers she had gone over the cliff on July 6th and she used a radiator hose to syphoned water from the nearby stream to stay hydrated.
And then the other good news, the Thai boys who were trapped inside a cave speaking out since their unbelievable rescue. Doctors say all the boys and their coach are healthy enough now to be discharged from the hospital next week. The boys were sitting up in their beds, sending individual thank-you messages to their rescuers.
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UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Uk (ph). My health condition is good. Thank you for helping us.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Byu (ph). I'm fine. I would like to thank all people for being worried.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi, I'm Nick. My physical body is strong. I want to eat (INAUDIBLE). Thank you for helping and thank you for all the support.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Mike (ph). I'm healthy. I want to eat (INAUDIBLE). Thank you for all the support for me.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Mick (ph). I'm healthy. Thank you for getting inside to help me. Don't worry, I'm safe.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Now I am very fine. I very thank you so help me. Thank you so much.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Titan (ph). My body is starting to return to normal. I want to eat sushi. I would like to thank the SEALs for helping us. Thank you everyone for supporting us until now. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My name is Siphonjiron (ph). My nickname is Phon (ph). I am healthy. I want to eat (INAUDIBLE). I'd like to thank everyone for supporting me. And thank you all people around the world for helping us.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My nickname is Marcopupine (ph). My nickname is Mark. I'm healthy. I am ready now. I want to eat steak. I would like to thank you all people for supporting me. I will be strong and keep fighting for my life.
UNIDENTIFIED BOY (through translation): Hi. My nickname is Acapochocola (ph). My nickname is Ike. Now I'm starting to get normal. I'm healthy as usual. I can eat again. The food I want to east most is (INAUDIBLE). I'd like to thank all sisters and brothers. Thank you to all ministries that always help. Thank you, prime minister and all SEALs. Thank you very much doctors.
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[13:54:39] SAVIDGE: There you heard that common theme, obviously, food as many of them were trapped underground for so long without it. And one boy said what he's looking for most is fried chicken. Good news stories.
We have just a lot more ahead in the NEWSROOM, and it is all going to start right after this quick break.
[13:59:25] SAVIDGE: Hello. Thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge, in for Fredricka Whitfield.
We'll start with the political chaos surrounding the highly anticipated Trump/Putin summit. That meeting is still on and the White House says the two leaders will speak to the press after their sit-down.
All of this after Special Counsel Robert Mueller's latest indictments in the Russian probe. Those indictments have sent cries throughout Washington for the president to cancel the summit. Top Senate Democrats sent a letter to the president asking him to not meet Putin alone, saying he is, quote, "not a friend of the United States."
The president is weighing in on the latest indictments by blaming former President Obama instead of condemning Russia. The president still calling the probe a witch hunt. But it's important to know Mueller's probe has now brought 191 criminal charges --