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Trump Heads To Ohio Ahead Of Crucial Special Election; Trump Dismisses "Russian Hoax" At Pennsylvania Rally; Senate Votes Down $250 Million Election Security Effort; "Manhattan Madam" Interviewed By Mueller Team; Financial Handlers Testify On Alleged Bank Fraud; Turkey Retailers Slaps Sanctions On U.S. Officials; Pompeo: North Korean Official Meet At ASEAN Summit; BMW Considers Ways To Counter Impact Of Trump's Tariffs. Aired 7-8a ET
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[07:00:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We continue to see a pervasive messaging campaign by Russia to try to weaken and divide the United States.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In Helsinki, I had a great meeting with Putin.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As I have said consistently, Russia attempted to interfere with the last election.
TRUMP: Now, we're being hindered by the Russian hoax.
JOHN BOLTON, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR OF THE UNITED STATES: The president has taken decisive action to defend our election systems from meddling and interference.
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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning to you and welcome to Saturday. I'm Christi Paul.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Martin Savidge in for Victor Blackwell. President Trump wakes up at his New Jersey resort this morning preparing to do what he does best -- rally the base.
PAUL: Yes, the president is heading to Ohio this afternoon for a campaign rally just days before the state votes in a crucial special election there, Tuesday's race. A key to Republican efforts to maintain control of the House. Of course, CNN's Sarah Westwood live in New Jersey near the president's resort. So, Sarah what are we expecting from the president as he goes to Ohio today?
SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we know that President Trump feeds off the energy from those crowds at his rallies, and we expect today will be no different when he heads to the Columbus, Ohio area, ostensibly to campaign for Troy Balderson, a Republican who's locked in a dead heat in that special house race. But lately, President Trump has been more interested in playing to his base than boosting Republican candidates.
Earlier this week, Trump rallied in Pennsylvania on behalf of Lou Barletta, who is waging a long shot campaign to unseat Democratic Senator Bob Casey. But during that rally, Trump spent more time rallying against the media, lifting his own accomplishments. And when it came time to actually talk about Lou Barletta's opponent, President Trump described that as the boring stuff.
Now, sources tell CNN that in recent days, Trump has become increasingly frustrated with the Russia investigation -- the fact that it continues to drag on and has seemingly produced no evidence of collusion, but is far from over. Trump's legal still negotiating the final details of a potential sit-down interview with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
White House aides are saying that they hope potentially filling Trump's schedule with these kinds of political events will help take his mind off the investigation and improve his mood, and certainly, the Ohio special election provides Trump with the crucial opportunity to do just that, as Republicans are really hoping to avoid another Democratic victory in a district that Trump carried easily in 2016, Christi.
PAUL: All righty. Sarah Westwood, thank you so much.
SAVIDGE: And there is a new poll that shows why Republicans are so concerned about this race in Ohio. The latest Monmouth University poll shows the candidates neck and neck, and that is a big swing from a little over a month ago, when the Republican led by ten points. Joining me now, Senior Political Correspondent from The Hill, Amie Parnes. Good morning, Amie.
AMIE PARNES, SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, THE HILL: Good morning.
SAVIDGE: So, let's talk about this. You've seen the poll numbers. Early voting, I believe, is already underway in Ohio, and looks like the Democrats, at least number of ballots that have been cast so far, more Democrats. So, how worried should Republicans be?
PARNES: A little worried. I mean, Donald Trump won this area by 11 points. Republicans outnumbered Democrats 2-1 over there. So, I think, you know, this was sort of a safe seat for them. I think that it came as a big surprise that it was very close. But you know, O'Connor, the Democrat, has been really trying to make inroads in appealing to people who have been a little bit upset with the way the Trump administration has handled policy, the tone and tenor of his administration.
And so, he's really tried to capitalize on that, and he's appealing to people who like the governor, Governor Kasich, and also people who, you know, also progressives. So, I think that he's really trying to make inroads and try to appeal to independents and people, Republicans who aren't as satisfied with the way things are going.
SAVIDGE: You know, what's very interesting about the 12th district here is that, of course, it incorporates the affluent suburbs of Columbus, Ohio, and it's that group there, especially, that seems to have become since 2016 -- Republicans, I mean -- that maybe are not as happy with the president as those in more rural areas. So, this is a real test here to see if Trump is losing some of that strong appeal he once held.
PARNES: Exactly. And I think that's why you saw the Vice President, Mike Pence, go out there the other day. He went out there another time. You're seeing the president go there today. This is something that Republicans are taking very seriously. If they are losing Republicans support in that area, that could very well spell out what's going to happen in November, and they don't want that.
SAVIDGE: Mm-hmm. We want to show you just how President Trump's endorsed candidates have fared so far, and we're going to ask you, basically, is his endorsement enough to cinch to the race? But he's got a pretty good track record, although he did, actually, in this particular race come out and endorse the wrong candidate. He quickly fixed that. So, I'm wondering, is the president showing up today? Could it make a dramatic swing in the polls and in the outcome?
PARNES: I think they think that it will on the ground. I think that's why he's making a last-ditch effort there. But I think what's really fascinating there, Martin, is that the candidate is not only just appealing to Trump voters. He wants Kasich voters, too. And you know, these two men are very much at odds with one another. They were in 2016. They are now. And so, I think he's really trying to make a play for both. He kind of wants both sides, both Republicans to sort of support his candidacy, and that's what we're seeing on the ground.
[07:05:49] SAVIDGE: One of the things I find interesting about the Republican message here is they're not running on, say the economy or tax cuts, but in fact, running more to Trump real issues such as immigration, getting tough on those who are in this country illegally and then also talking about the wall. So, he's going very Trump-like.
PARNES: Oh, yes, and that's why I think you're seeing the president come in there and say double down on that. He really wants to emphasize that more. This is sort of a call, a rallying and cry for the base. They think that the base will come out and strongly support him, and I think that's why they're going and doubling down on these issues, because they think that's the most effective strategy.
SAVIDGE: Real quick before I let you go, is it possible we put just too much on this one special election?
PARNES: I don't think so. I think, you know, a lot of people are looking for little signs of what's to come right now and that's why you're seeing people want to know is there such a thing as the blue wave? Is that a thing? Is that going to happen? And so, I think Ohio is always important in elections, and that's why I think people are focused on this one and they want to see what the outcome is.
SAVIDGE: Yep. I know Ohio well. Amie Parnes, thanks very much for joining us this morning.
PARNES: Thank you. PAUL: So, one thing that we are not hearing about at the president's
campaign events is the widening gap between the president himself and his own intelligence chiefs on the threat posed by Russia. Are the midterms safe from interference, or is it all a big hoax? Asha Rangappa, CNN Legal and National Security Analyst and former FBI Special Agent is with us right now. Asha, thank you for being here. Answer that question for us first and foremost. Is there a way to get clarity on this?
ASHA RANGAPPA, CNN LEGAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, I think we can listen to what the intelligence chiefs said on Thursday. And you know, they basically warned of both a short-term and a long-term threat. The short-term threat is about the elections, and the infrastructure. So, there's a few different ways that the Russians can influence.
They can pack e-mails, which is what they did in 2016 and tried to use the information that they get, if it's embarrassing, for example, to change preferences about a candidate. They can hack into the actual election infrastructure. And then, there is the disinformation campaign going on.
With regard to the hacking, both in the e-mails and in the infrastructure, part of that is going to be candidates taking their own precautions on their private information. And the infrastructure, that is up to the state, mainly, to take advantage of funding and services offered by the Department of Homeland Security to address any vulnerabilities in their system.
Those are the short-term threats. The long-term threat is the disinformation, and that's a little bit harder to identify and patch. It's not just, you know, a loophole in your, you know, the way that your voting system works. This is really about information that voters are being bombarded with that can distort their thinking and their way of approaching candidates.
And in the long term, just how we relate to each other, sowing discord, making us fight, lose faith in our institutions. And I think that is really, for me, the most troubling threat of all.
PAUL: Let's listen here to Leon Panetta, of course, and what he had to say about this.
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LEON PANETTA, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: I have never, in my lifetime, seen an administration that is presenting such a confused message when it comes to a national security threat. And the fact is that it's sending a very mixed message to both our enemies and our allies that the United States does not have a clear policy when it comes to Russia.
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PAUL: Does this make the U.S. vulnerable on an international stage? RANGAPPA: Absolutely. And I would even go farther than Mr. Panetta
and say it's not just mixed messages. I think that on the international stage, and Russia in particular, are paying attention to what the president says. And his lack of response, and indeed, his continued denials that there have been any -- there's been any election interference at all, in my opinion, is really giving Russia the green light to continue and to, you know, basically have a field day with interfering both in our democracy, long term, and in our short-term elections. And I think that that is very problematic. I hope that to the extent that our agencies can take measures, like the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, that they can at least address some of the threats, but it does need to start from the top.
[07:10:35] PAUL: OK, so, that was my question, because earlier this week we know that the Senate voted down a $250 million appropriation to fund state election security. It failed right down party lines. But with that said, can you secure anything, even just the equipment? Can you make any decisions and secure anything if the president himself is not on board?
RANGAPPA: You can. It does take funding. So, if the federal government isn't providing enough funding, that's a problem. But for example, election experts have said that states should replace paperless voting machines with voting that produces voter-verified paper ballots that can be verified after the fact, if needed be. So, I think that there are sort of smaller steps that can be taken. It's not, you know, all or nothing. But I do think as a policy, in terms of sending a message, you know, before Obama left office, he expelled 35 spies who were here posing as diplomats. I mean, there have to be certain, sometimes symbolic steps. There can be sanctions. There has to be some kind of cost that Russia needs to endure for doing these kinds of things, and that's the step that only the president can take.
PAUL: All righty. I think at the end of the day, when people go to vote, they just want to know their vote counted, and they just want to be confident of that.
PAUL: Asha Rangappa, we appreciate your insight so much. Always learn from you. Thank you.
RANGAPPA: Thank you.
SAVIDGE: More details into Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. They emerged overnight with new details about the woman known as the Manhattan Madam. Kristin Davis once ran a high-priced prostitution ring and went to jail for it. She's now agreed to an interview this week with Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team.
PAUL: Now, on the surface, she doesn't appear to have a connection to the Russia investigation, but she does have a close relationship with Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to President Trump. Sources say, her testimony suggests Mueller might be building a case against Stone here. SAVIDGE: Meanwhile, prosecutors slammed Trump's former Campaign
Chairman, Paul Manafort, during the fourth day of his trial, showing that he lied to his accountants and trying to prove that he also lied on his taxes. The jury saw evidence to support bank fraud charges and heard from a witness who said she discussed creating fake documents with Manafort and longtime Deputy Rick Gates.
Gates is the prosecution's star witness. He is expected to take the stand early next week. Manafort's attorneys have pointed to Gates as the man behind the alleged fraud. Prosecutors say they will show evidence that Manafort's own lawyer said Gates was not involved with certain bank records.
PAUL: Will President Trump's rally in Ohio tonight be enough to secure a win in the special election? We're going to ask GOP Congressman Ryan Costello about that.
SAVIDGE: Plus, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and North Korea's foreign minister shook hands and smiled at the cameras this morning, as a U.N. report says North Korea is still going ahead with its nuclear program.
PAUL: Also, a migrant mother's illegal status in this country is posing a threat to her health.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're literally pushing themselves to the brink of death.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To get this treatment. Am I overstating that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, not at all.
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[07:18:05] SAVIDGE: The relationship between the U.S. and Turkey is headed south. This morning, Turkey's president froze the assets of the U.S. justice and interior ministers in Turkey -- that's if they have any.
PAUL: The move comes after the U.S. did the same to Turkey's ministers, remember, over the detention of U.S. Pastor Andrew Brunson. CNN's International Diplomatic Editor Nic Robertson with us now. Nic, what are you hearing?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Well, it's not clear because Turkey hasn't named them yet, which individuals in the United States administration they're actually targeting here. When they say justice and interior, do they mean the Attorney General Jeff Sessions? Do they mean Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen? Not clear, but it could potentially be. Do they have any assets in Turkey? We don't know. But it would seem
unlikely that it's going to be a lot. So, there's something about this that looks as if it's a tit for tat, but it's a little unexpected and does hint at this deteriorating relationship. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Singapore, in the past 24 hours met with his Turkish counterpart.
The meeting was said to be positive and constructive, that they would go away to their home countries and continue discussions, although the Turkish side did say we can't fix all our problems in one day. And that's the thing here -- you know, the United States and Turkey have some pretty big issues that they could be discussing. Syria would be high on that list.
So, this is unexpected; hints that it's a deterioration. Perhaps it isn't that significant because the people involved do not have significant assets in Turkey, although we won't know until we know precisely who they are. So, it's, yes, it's sort of come out of left field a little bit, but it doesn't really seem to give confidence that Andrew Brunson, the pastor, who's just been released from jail in Turkey, put under house arrest, it doesn't seem to hint that he's going to get home any quicker, which is, of course, what President Trump wants to see.
SAVIDGE: It is, indeed. He's not alone in that. All right, Nic Robertson, thanks very much.
PAUL: Republican Congressman Ryan Costello of Pennsylvania with us now. Good morning, congressman. How are you?
REP. RYAN COSTELLO (R), PENNSYLVANIA: Very good. You?
PAUL: I'm well. Thank you. So, your reaction, first of all, to Nic's report about Turkey. Should the U.S. respond, and how?
COSTELLO: Well, that's obviously a very complicated question. I have the same concerns that everyone else does. I think I'll take a pass on saying anything too dispositive there.
PAUL: OK. I do want to get into this back-and-forth that we're seeing when it comes to national security. President Trump obviously giving a very different answer to what Russia is doing, directly contradicting what all of his national security leaders came out this week and said, that Russia is interfering. And I'm wondering, what do you tell Republicans where you are when they go to the polls? What is this doing to your party? What do you say to them to give them confidence that the president and that the Republicans and that national security is intact?
COSTELLO: That we should have faith in the administration officials that were at the press conference, I think it was two days ago. The president has missed the mark here in terms of coming down forcefully and clearly against Russia in its election interference, but the director of Homeland Security, the national director of intelligence, the national security adviser, those are the folks that we should be listening to as it relates to Russian interference in the election. I think we are well positioned to fight back against this. You had a
guest on a little while ago who really hit the nail on the head in terms of the different types of Russian election interference. What we can do, what will be more difficult to get our arms around, the disinformation campaign is going to continue to persist. There's only so much we can do about that at any one time, but making sure that every vote that is cast is counted and that there isn't anyone getting in the way of that I think is the single most important thing that we can do.
PAUL: Right. Because like I said, I think people go to the polls and they want to know that their vote is counted. So, with that said, when we know where the president stands on this, where national security leaders stand on this, what is being done to secure the voting procedures, that equipment, that the infrastructure is solid?
COSTELLO: Well, I think elections happen at the county level. A lot of this on the cybersecurity side are things that we don't know about on a day-to-day basis because it's highly confidential, but those things are happening, and that was the point of the press conference. Our intelligence community, our homeland security community, they're doing what they need to do in order to make sure that Russia does not interfere there. I have full faith and confidence in that.
PAUL: I was just going to ask, so you're confident when you go to the polls?
COSTELLO: Certainly. I certainly am. And to be critical here, we just have to set aside what the president may have said at a rally or at a summit overseas and place our faith in those administration officials who have been tasked with this obligation. They were very clear that Russia is intending to interfere and that they are taking all precautionary steps and proactive steps to ensure that every vote cast is counted.
[07:23:21] PAUL: I want to look at President Trump's endorsements, because he's going to be in Ohio today, of course, for this rally. When we look at, let's say his scorecard, 19 people that he has endorsed have won. There have been four losses, including Rick Saccone there in your state. How much weight does the president hold, do you think? How beneficial is he or not, to these endorsements as we head into midterms just three months away now?
COSTELLO: This weekend's rally I think is important for the following reason. This is a tight race. Everyone knows it. Democrats are coming to the polls. Republicans should be coming to the polls, but many Republicans hold very strongly favorable views of the president, and this is a get out the vote election. We're in August. Most people aren't used to voting in August. And so, getting your voters to the polls is extremely important. No one can do that better than the president as it relates to Republican turnout. This election may ultimately hinge on independent voters, where Governor Kasich coming out and supporting the Republican nominee I think is a step in the right direction. But if the president can get a couple extra thousand Republican voters to the polls, that's very, very significant in a special election. PAUL: When you talk about voters going to the polls, and we were
talking about what the Russia infiltration threat is here, how do people, or how would you convince people to disseminate between what is, you know, distinguish between what is noise and what is factual when they are deciding who they're going to vote for?
COSTELLO: It's such an excellent question. And to be honest with you, even if Russia were not interfering, that's a challenge for every candidate, just given how much noise is out there on social media, even from your opponent, right, and from a lot of the outside special interest organizations. I think you have to look at a candidate's character. You have to look at what they themselves are actually saying, what their voting record is, what their record in business and in the community is, and focus more on that than what someone else is tweeting about or what some outside organization may be misrepresenting.
That's ultimately what it comes down to, and that's why there's always a local element to every single race. You cannot discount, particularly amongst independent voters and swing Democrats and swing Republicans. They're going to look at the individual, even in this year where I think the president's going to probably be on the ballot in November for most voters. You have to make sure you're cutting your own message and you're making sure that you're leading with your personality and what your record is. That is, I think, going to be the secret sauce for winning candidates in November and next Tuesday.
PAUL: OK. And last but not least, the economy. It is certainly in the president's favor, in Republicans' favor right now. Is it going to be enough, do you think, as a campaign tactic, to make sure that people get to the polls?
COSTELLO: We're going to find out. The economy is doing very, very well. That's a big part of the Republican message, but it can't be the only part. You have to be speaking about what you're going to be doing, where you may disagree with the president from time to time. But the other thing I might say is I think the challenge for Republicans right now is when things are going well, oftentimes voters then start looking at other areas or other issues.
It's when the economy isn't going well that oftentimes the focus in an election is on the economy. When the economy's doing well, it oftentimes is on other things. So, we need to keep repeating the message of why our policies are helping improve the economy -- low unemployment, stock market, increase of wages. So, it's a tricky political environment when things are going well and you're saying this is why they're going well.
PAUL: Mm-hmm. All right. Congressman Ryan Costello, appreciate you being here. Thank you, sir.
COSTELLO: Thank you.
SAVIDGE: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and North Korea's foreign minister promise to cooperate on denuclearization this morning, but a U.N. report says North Korea is still going ahead with its nuclear program.
[07:32:25] SAVIDGE: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with North Korea's foreign minister at the ASEAN summit today. And they reaffirmed their plan to cooperate on denuclearization of North Korea.
PAUL: Pompeo also tweeted, by the way, that he had the opportunity to deliver President Trump's reply to Kim Jong-un's letter. Now, despite that friendly handshake and the meetings, there's a confidential U.S. report this morning that says, North Korea is continuing to develop nuclear and missile programs, and that it's in violation of the international sanctions.
CNN senior international correspondent Ivan Watson, live from Singapore with us right now. What are you hearing about this report and what's actually happening, Ivan?
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this wasn't -- Christi, this wasn't a formal meeting. This was a gathering of diplomats from around the world, Southeast Asian Nations. And Secretary of State Pompeo was there, the North Korean foreign minister was there. But they didn't have a formal bilateral meeting.
What happened actually was quite interesting during a group photo with these dozens of diplomats, Pompeo walked through a crowd of diplomats and reached out and shook hands with the North Korean Foreign Minister.
And then, had this letter from President Trump to North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, basically, given to him to hand off to the North Korean leader later. And so, while there were some of these diplomatic niceties, and they were trying to make nice, there was also some criticism.
Pompeo saying that North Korea's behavior has been inconsistent as he put it with Kim Jong-un's commitment to denuclearization, to getting rid of its nuclear weapons. Arguing that all these South East Asian countries that were gathered there, that they should continue to diplomatically and economically isolate North Korea.
And he singled out Russia, accusing it of helping North Korea evade United Nations Security Council Sanctions. Take a listen.
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MIKE POMPEO, UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF STATE: We have seen reports that Russia is allowing for joint ventures with North Korean firms and granting new work permits to North Korean guest workers. If these reports prove accurate, and we have every reason to believe that they are, that would be in violation of U.N. Security Council Resolution 2375.
I want to remind every nation that has supported these resolutions that this is a serious issue and something that we will discuss with Moscow. (END VIDEO CLIP)
[07:34:54] WATSON: And North Korea's top diplomat had some tough words for the U.S., take a look at this. "The United States is, quote, raising its voice louder for maintaining the sanctions against the DPRK and showing the attitude to retreat even from declaring the end of war, a very basic and primary step for providing peace on the Korean Peninsula."
He also suggested that the U.S. was making unilateral demands that deepened distrust. So, while both sides say they're still committed to the diplomatic overtures that President Trump and Kim Jong-un made here in Singapore less than two months ago, they're also kind of slinging barbs at each other about this very delicate diplomatic dance. Martin and Christi?
SAVIDGE: Yes, there's the impact back and forth. Ivan Watson, thank you very much.
PAUL: Well, a federal judge is slamming the Trump administration over the hundreds of migrant children still in government facilities this morning. The harsh warning that this judge had about these children separated from their families and what it means for them now?
PAUL: Well, mortgage rates picked up this week. Here's a look.
[07:40:35] PAUL: Boy, it is a blow to the Trump administration as a federal judge says, the government is completely responsible for reuniting the hundreds of migrant children still in federal facilities, and to reunite them with their parents.
Close to 500 parents, in fact, were deported before they could be reunited with their children taken from them at the border with Mexico.
Thursday, the Justice Department argued immigration advocacy groups should be responsible for tracking down those parents. But the judge disagreed, saying, a failure to track down those parents would result in children becoming permanent orphans.
SAVIDGE: You know, imagine having to wait until you are about to die before you can get medical treatment, it almost seems impossible. But that is the reality for some undocumented immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally and in need of life-saving care. So, what do you do?
PAUL: CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, has been following one woman's battle in particular. Take a look at this.
SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: In order to really understand what's going on here, you're going to need to suspend disbelief. Lucia is dying. Her lung's drowning in fluid. Her electrolytes are fluctuating wildly and her heart is precariously close to shutting down.
This 51-year-old mother and undocumented immigrant has end-stage renal disease full-on kidney failure.
LILIA CERVANTES, MEDICINE, DENVER HEALTH AND HOSPITAL AUTHORITY: The function of the kidneys is to filter the blood of excess toxins and excess fluid. When both kidneys stop working, people on average will live anywhere from 10 to 14 days. And so, to continue living, you need some process to filter blood which is a dialysis machine.
GUPTA: For most people, that treats the problem. But here is the thing, Lucia is allowed treatment only when she essentially arrives at death's door.
The Emergency Medical Treatment Act of 1986, says hospitals in the United States must care for anyone with the medical emergency regardless of their citizenship or ability to pay, but they are not obligated to prevent that emergency from happening in the first place.
What is happening inside the body?
CERVANTES: For these patients, because they only come in once a week, instead of the three times per week, excess fluid, it stays in their body, and it goes into their lungs, goes into their legs. Separate from that, the toxins build up. One of the most important toxins being -- potassium, which at high levels can make the heart stop.
GUPTA: This is no way to live. About as close to death as you can get. And what's more? Research shows that treating patients with emergency dialysis versus standard dialysis is nearly four times more expensive because these patients like Lucia are so much sicker when they come in for treatment.
They are literally pushing themselves to the brink of death --
CERVANTES: They are.
GUPTA: -- to give this treatment. Am I overstating that?
CERVANTES: No, not at all.
GUPTA: There is no question it works.
Just look at Lucia now. After dialysis removed 10 liters of fluid from her body.
How are you feeling?
LUCIA, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT (through translator): Right now, I feel good.
GUPTA: Still, Lucia is always worried mostly about her family. Especially, her son, Alex. He watches his mother steadily decline every single week. This is their life.
How hard has is this been on, on your family?
LUCIA: It's been really hard. It's been really hard for my family. The worst is for my son, he worries about me.
GUPTA: Because just a few days from now, like clockwork, Lucia will once again go to the precipice of death, just so that she can live.
GUPTA: I tell you it's unclear how long Lucia can carry on like this. And week after week, going to this precipice of death, a kidney transplant would be something that would not only improve her life but also cut down on health care costs, she is not eligible for that.
She is, however, eligible to donate her other organs whenever she passes. That is the reality of the situation for people like Lucia.
[07:44:51] SAVIDGE: Sanjay Gupta, thank you very much for that report. Meanwhile, a federal judge has just dealt a blow to the Trump administration's efforts to end the deferred action for childhood arrivals program, otherwise known as DACA.
A judge in Washington has ruled -- and that occurred Friday that the administration has 20 days to fully restore the program that protects undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, protecting them from deportation
He said the administration failed to justify his proposal to end DACA. The Justice Department indicates that it will file an appeal saying in a statement, "It looks forward to vindicating its position and further litigation." But a judicial faceoff could be brewing since a judge in a related case in Texas is expected to rule in favor of ending the program.
PAUL: Straight ahead, one of BMWs biggest plans in South Carolina is already feeling the brunt of the president's newly imposed tariffs.
[07:50:10] SAVIDGE: German automaker, BMW, is stuck in the middle of a U.S. trade dispute the company raised prices on some of its cars it sells in China, because of the president's newly imposed import tariffs. Now, they're looking for ways to counteract those measures.
This week, the president threatened to more than double proposed tariffs in Chinese goods from 10 percent to 25 percent. I talked to some residents in Spartanburg, South Carolina at a BMW plant there where they're already very worried about the potential impact.
SAVIDGE: It may not look like it, but Spartanburg, South Carolina is a war zone. A trade war, thanks to the president, most folks here voted for. Spartanburg is home to the largest BMW plant in the world. Last year, they made more than 370,000 luxury SUVs, employing10, 000 people, pumping billions into the state's economy.
Is it safe to say how well BMW does is how well Spartanburg, County does?
JESSE JONES, RESIDENT, SPARTANBURG COUNTY: You might can say that because there's a lot of industry in Spartanburg County that are directly connected to BMW.
MARILYN SAUCEDO, RESIDENT, SPARTANBURG COUNTY: Growth jobs, and I know that that's brought in a lot of families into the area. Brings money into the area.
SAVIDGE: Spartanburg's also deep-red. Meaning, in 2016, the county voted 63 percent for Donald Trump. But President Trump has threatened to place tariffs on imported BMW vehicles and parts that could make BMWs made and sold in America a lot more expensive.
The company is already feeling the impact of Trump's trade war with China. Over 80,000 Spartanburg made BMW SUVs are sold in China every year. Now, China is striking back placing tariffs on the American- made vehicles. It's an economic double whammy of Trump's making, which BMW says could have negative effects on investment and employment in the United States.
In other words, BMW might have to scale back production, and lay off workers in Spartanburg.
DAVID BRITT, VICE CHAIRMAN, SPARTANBURG COUNTY COUNCIL: I feel like a help birth BMW.
SAVIDGE: David Britt is a Spartanburg County commissioner and a Trump backer.
How concerned are you now about talk of tariffs and trade war?
BRITT: I'm extremely concern because the impact the ripple effect is it goes beyond BMW in the automotive industry.
SAVIDGE: Britt is one of the few Republican politicians in the country willing to tell Trump, he's wrong.
BRITT: These tariffs could put the foot on the throat of growth in stop it. We don't need that.
SAVIDGE: Other Trump supporters we talked to here, say they support the president's policies. But some ate concern none wanted to talk on camera. And they're not the only ones reluctant to speak out.
Many South Carolina companies are also concerned but fear if they criticize the president's policies, they'll become a target of his Twitter rap, much like what happened to Harley Davidson.
TED PITTS, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE: The president has shown that you're better off working with his administration on issues to help them understand it, and allow them to get to the right answer. SAVIDGE: Ironically, Trump's tough talk on trade was part of his appeal to voters in South Carolina. Now, there's growing concern Trump's trade war is about to backfire on them. And possibly, eventually, on him.
PITTS: I don't see this issue changing voter's minds. Now, if you look down the road and their concerns.
SAVIDGE: Worries about the current trade war between the U.S. and China. There is actually good news for the BMW Spartanburg plan and that is that they're adding a new line, a new vehicle. Which means they'll be adding more jobs, about a thousand more jobs over the next few years. Christi?
PAUL: Nice already. Thank you, Martin. So, NASA just picked nine astronauts who are going to be the first to launch to space from the U.S. since 2011. We're going to tell you that permission in a moment.
[07:58:17] PAUL: About distracted walking accidents, yes, it's a thing and the number of them are soaring. Particularly, among younger people. So, take a look at how you can avoid unnecessary injuries here in today's "STAYING WELL".
JESSICA SCHWARTZ, NATIONAL SPOKESWOMAN, AMERICAN PHYSICAL THERAPY ASSOCIATION: When we're walking and texting, we either can't walk well or we can't text well. And most of the distracted walking injuries are actually from younger generations. We have seen in upwards of 50 percent increase in the last 10 years with distracted walking injuries, both in the emergency department and our clinics.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was texting, and I took down the stairs. I've got turn off part of my toenail.
SCHWARTZ: We have people coming in with hand injuries, shoulder injuries, back injuries, concussions, nearly half of all traumatic brain injuries or concussions actually derived from falls.
People have milliseconds when they fall. If you're walking and texting and about to fall, the number one thing you want to do is protect your head with your hands, and your arms, and roll into the fall, and land on the softest parts of your body.
If you fight the fall, then you tend to fall an outstretched hand or your wrist, which that essentially ends up with breaking a wrist or hand. The best thing you can do is actually be aware of your environment, which means actually drop the phone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Something keeps buzzing and buzzing, and buzzing in my pocket. It feels urgent like I got to answer this now.
SCHWARTZ: Whatever you need to do, it can always wait.
SAVIDGE: Sound advice.
PAUL: Yes, yes.
SAVIDGE: Meanwhile, NASA has selected nine astronauts to become the first to launch to the space, or to space from the U.S. soil since the shuttle program ended that was in 2011. The new seven men and two women all have military experience and are seasoned veterans of space.
They will fly in capsules developed by SpaceX and Boeing. Both companies are slated to launch their missions next year.
PAUL: NASA ended the shuttle program seven years ago after135 missions. And since it ended, NASA's paid Russia about $70 million per seat to carry astronauts to and from the International Space Station.