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[01:00:00] JOHN VAUSE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. Ahead this hour, what was usually a guaranteed applause line at one of Donald Trump's rallies was instead the source of much merriment at the U.N. General Assembly as world leaders open in laughs when he started to brag about his first two years in office.

America's Dad serving the first night of his prison sentence to a sexual assault in a milestone for the #MeToo Movement, a court has sentence Bill Cosby of up to ten years in jail. And Pope Francis admits the obvious. The clergy sexual abuse of children is driving the faithful away from the Catholic Church.

Hello everybody, great to have you with us. I'm John Vause, this is NEWSROOM L.A.

It has never happened before, a U.S. President, the so-called leader of the free world laughed at during his annual address to the United Nations. Never before is U.S. president addressed the General Assembly without being interrupted by applause but Donald Trump scored that milestone as well. Donald Trump though did continue with a long line of inaccurate statements and then later attacked the women who accused his Supreme Court nominee of sexually inappropriate behavior. Here's CNN Jim Acosta reporting in from New York.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: On the world stage at the U.N., President Trump injected himself into the court of public opinion on the fate of Brett Kavanaugh, all but dismissing allegations made by a second woman Deborah Ramirez who told The New Yorker the Supreme Court nominee sexually abused her at Yale University.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The second accuser has nothing. The second accuser doesn't even know -- she thinks maybe it could have been him, maybe not. She admits that she was drunk. She admits time lapses, there are time lapses.

ACOSTA: The president told reporters he too watch Kavanaugh's interview on Fox offering the judge his full support. TRUMP: You know, when he said that really what he was focused on was

trying to be number one in his class at Yale, to me that was so believable. His wife is devastated. His children are devastated. I don't mean they're like oh gee, I'm a little unhappy. They're devastated.

ACOSTA: Mr. Trump's comments seemed to run counter to Press Secretary Sarah Sanders openness to hearing Ramirez testify next to Kavanaugh's first accuser Christine Blasey Ford at a hearing set for Thursday.

SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Certainly we would be open to that and that process could take place on Thursday.

BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE NOMINEE: I'm not going to let false accusations drive us out of this process and we're looking for a fair process.

ACOSTA: The White House is firmly behind Kavanagh whose personal life has been exposed in full detail.

KAVANAUGH: I've never sexually assaulted anyone. I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years thereafter. And the girls from the schools I went to and I were friends.

ACOSTA: The Kavanaugh saga has temporarily overshadowed the other White House melodrama whether the president will fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein after he allegedly offered to secretary record Mr. Trump.

TRUMP: I'm meeting with Rod Rosenstein on Thursday. Today I'm doing other things as you probably --

ACOSTA: At the U.N. there was a clear signal of how some parts of the world view the Trump presidency as the president bragged about his accomplishments foreign leaders couldn't help but laugh.

TRUMP: In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country, America is so true.

I didn't expect that reaction but that's OK.

ACOSTA: It was a reminder there is a Trump tweet for everything. When Barack Obama was president, Mr. Trump tweeted we need a president who isn't a laughingstock to the entire world. We need a truly great leader. During the president's U.N. speech, German officials could be seen chuckling when Mr. Trump accused them of being dependent on Russian energy.

TRUMP: Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.

ACOSTA: The President later insisted he didn't mind the laughter.

TRUMP: It was meant to get some laugh. It was great. ACOSTA: And the Trump administration is ramping up the rhetoric on

Iran with the National Security Advisor John Bolton saying that Iran will have hell to pay if it crosses the U.S. But it can be argued that was not the most shocking comment of the day as the President once again stood with the accused not the accusers in the case of Brett Kavanaugh. Jim Acosta, CNN New York.

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VAUSE: Joining me now here in Los Angeles Talk Radio Host Mo'Kelly and Republican Commentator DeAnna Lorraine. OK, so let's stick with Iran for the moment. Here is exactly what the President said to the U.N. about Iran. Listen to this.

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[01:05:12] TRUMP: Iran's leaders sow chaos, death, and destruction. They do not respect their neighbors or borders or the sovereign rights of Nations. Instead, Iran's leaders plundered the nation's resources to enrich themselves and to spread mayhem across the Middle East and far beyond.

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VAUSE: But you know, just hours earlier the President tweeted about Iran saying that you know, he simply the leader that despise regime. He described him as a lovely man we put the tweet up there. So you know, it could be argued that you know, maybe the president was being sarcastic. Maybe he's sort of being giving a joke, maybe is trying to rule over Hassan Rouhani with some flattering words, but at the end of the day, you know, the end result is it simply highlights what is an inconsistent U.S. foreign policy especially it seems when it comes to Iran.

MO'KELLY, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It seems like they just want to hurt -- go ahead and get the war going. Honestly, if you listen to what John Bolton is had to say, if you listen to what the president has said today and what he said more recently about Iran, it's almost like they're looking for a reason to have regime change in Iran. If that's the case, then let's go ahead and do it because pulling out of the Iran deal was the first step and everything since that has been consistent with that.

VAUSE: We have also this confusion though. So yes, there does seem to be this you know, one part of the White House which is very hawkish on Iran. We have the John Bolton side of things the other which it -- which wants to sort of give you a little more measured. But you know, Secretary State Mike Pompeo, for example, was putting it out there, (INAUDIBLE) that Donald Trump you know, would sit down, would have talks with the Iranian president. Trump in that earlier tweet actually claimed that you know, he turned down the Iranians who wanted that meeting. Also, Trump called for respect for national sovereignty. He said the U.S. would never tell anyone how to live their lives. He went on to call for international isolation of Iran. So DeAnna, you know, the Trump doctrine, if you like, seems to be whatever pops into the president's head at a particular time. DEANNA LORRAINE, REPUBLICAN COMMENTATOR: I wouldn't say that's always

true. I mean he does sometimes go back on certain things and is it emotional sometimes or impulsive but I think that for the most part he's always been critical of Iran in this case. He's been critical of Iran and from the end of the Iran deal since day one, right, and he's been very critical of Obama giving them aid since day one. So that has been really consistent.

I'm not sure where his head's at as far as his comments earlier today or to the U.N. as far as Iran goes, but I think that he's critical and critical for a good reason and he wants anyone who is going to be a part of this to be respectful to the U.S. and be beneficial and not have any more deals that are going to be bad to the U.S. and really to the world on a whole. And he wants to isolate those countries that might be dangerous or harmful.

VAUSE: OK. So keep in mind the President had tweeted but despite repeated requests for meeting which he apparently turned down, this is what the Iranian leader said when he was asked specifically about that.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you requested a meeting the President Trump?

HASSAN ROUHANI, PRESIDENT OF IRAN (through translator): Not this year, nor last year. We have never made such a request for a meeting with the President of the United States.

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VAUSE: So now, given the track record of the U.S. president when it comes to credibility and honesty, benefit of the doubt has to go to Rouhani I guess on that one. But -- so why would the president say this?

KELLY: I don't -- I don't know why he would say that. I don't know why either side would ask for a meeting if only because pulling out of the Iran deal would send to a message to Iran and other nations that we're not an honest broker when it comes to making these multinational agreements. And to your point when you say that Iran, this is a bad deal for everyone, well, we're the only ones who pulled out. We're the only ones who seemingly felt it was a bad deal. We're the ones who are alleging that Iran broke the deal they're in. So I don't know what's the point of meeting.

VAUSE: And to answer that point, well Donald Trump was saying you know, he's very you know, strong -- that very strong criticism of Iran. You know, all these other countries in that room, they still doing business with Iran. The U.S. is the only one that's not.

LORRAINE: But John, isn't it true that just because other people are doing business with other countries or just because they're sticking in a bad deal, does that mean it's actually good for a country. I mean, Trump is also pulled out of some other deals that were bad for a country or --

VAUSE: So is the world wrong, Donald Trump right?

LORRAINE: Not necessarily but I think that he sometimes sees things that he's willing to take a stand and he's willing to be an outsider, he's willing to pull ourselves out of a bad deal in other countries just want to stick together. And let's face it, America has been the strongest nation for quite some time.

So isn't it -- if we have to sometimes do some unconventional things to restore our country and to restore our strength, isn't that OK? Why is that not OK? Why do we have to work in lockstep with all other countries?

[01:10:01] KELLY: Well, presupposes that were weak.

VAUSE: Right.

KELLY: That we need to be restored.

VAUSE: Yes, that's a good point.

LORRAINE: Well, we keep talking about the fact that we -- I mean look at our economy before Trump took office.

KELLY: You're not going to blame that on Obama?

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LORRAINE: Yes, I am actually.

VAUSE: Because that's the question. You know, making it great. It seemed like the place is pretty good to begin with. Anyway, stay with us because you know, while Iran was the focus of the President's eye at the U.N. General Assembly, last year remember little rocket man Kim Jong-un was being threatened with annihilation. Not this year. This year we're good. In fact, we're better than good.

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TRUMP: I would like to thank Chairman Kim for his courage and for the steps he has taken though much work remains to be done.

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VAUSE: Let's get to Paula Hancocks live in Seoul for more. Paula, when the U.S. praises the North Korean leader for taking the courage to (INAUDIBLE). What exactly does he see that no one else actually sees? Because all the intelligence of the last six months suggests the North Koreans are increasing their stockpile of nukes.

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, John, U.S. intelligence agencies are also believing the same that there's no sign of any denuclearization, as you say the exact opposite. What Donald Trump has been listening to recently is a very positive message for example from the South Korean President Moon Jae-in. He just had a three-day summit with Kim Jong-un in Pyongyang.

He has just traveled to New York and had a meeting with Donald Trump and passed on all these messages that Kim Jong-un wants the second summit. He has expected the fact that certain North Korea destroyed Hungary nuclear tests example. But that was only in front of a handful of journalists. It wasn't in front of international experts so it's not something that the U.S. so or much of the world at this point thinks is completely verifiable.

So potentially, he is listening to this very positive note that the South Korean President is sending. And he asked the South Korean president to be the chief negotiator between the U.S. and North Korea until hey have more active dialogue. So as it looks at this point, the second summit could well go ahead. One U.S. official familiar with the matter telling CNN that but Mr. Trump wants it in the U.S. What they're thinking about now is would Kim Jong-un travel that far? Would he be able to travel that far?

Mr Trump has said he would be happy to have it at the White House. But there are concerns within the Trump administration that an Oval Office meeting would not send the right kind of message at the same time as you do have intelligence showing that they're increasing their stockpile.

VAUSE: Paula, thank you. We appreciate you being with us. I'm going to go back now to and DeAnna. But Mo, clearly it seems that Donald Trump, his politics at play here in the way he talks about North Korea and Kim Jong-un.

KELLY: Yes, and I understand he's maybe speaking in an aspirational sense in a way that he wants to butter up Kim Jong-un. But at the same time I understand the need to say something when you want something from someone but I would want him to be consistent in regard that he treats our allies such as Angela Merkel in the same way if he wants Germany to pay more in a defense since.

VAUSE: OK, politics also might be at play with the Senate Judiciary Committee now pushing forward with the vote with Brett Kavanaugh. He's been nominated to Supreme Court. This is now tentatively scheduled for Friday which will be about a day after one of his accusers actually testifies before the committee. The President has taken time out of the UNGA to lash out at the women who's accusing Kavanaugh of sexually inappropriate behavior.

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TRUMP: That they once come out of the woodwork from 36 years ago and 30 years ago, never mentioned it, all of a sudden it happens. In my opinion it's totally political. It's totally political.

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VAUSE: OK. So DeAnna, probably that is the President's opinion not based in fact. This is some kind of you know, political setup or whatever. This is the question I asked you last time. Are Republicans willing to take the risk that no more women come forward, that no more evidence is presented in either one of these cases, that this Supreme Court nominee will not be tainted in some significant way, maybe not now, maybe not by Friday, but in the weeks and months ahead?

LORRAINE: I think that they're confident that he has not done anything. I think they're confident of his record. I think they're confident he's going to get confirmed. So I don't think that they're worried about anyone else coming forward but I do think that it gives enough time. I mean, we have some other women with uncorroborated claims coming forward, right? And I think that that we are worried about these stall tactics continuing to increase.

You know, now, the Republicans have elected a female sex crimes prosecutor, right, to discuss this case and there's already -- a letter already going out from Ford's attorney saying that this is inappropriate and there's complaints coming up against that. So I think no matter what they do, the Democrats are going to find something wrong with it. So I think it's time to just move on with it and this is becoming a political charade where I think #MeToo victims, real me two victims, in the end, are going to suffer for this.

VAUSE: Right.

[01:15:00] LORRAINE: And then, and their credibility is going to suffer.

VAUSE: I just wonder, Mo, surely, isn't there like a never-ending supply of white angry conservative judges who don't have the possibility of sexual assault allegations hanging over the head?

They're like solar power -- you know, the endless.

KELLY: I don't think -- I don't think this really has to do with whether Judge Kavanaugh has done anything. The Republicans have made a decision. They are willing to lose the House if need be, so they can shape the court for the next 35 years.

And if you keep that in mind, then everything else is secondary. It doesn't matter whether Kavanaugh has done something or not. It doesn't matter if the other accusers who may come forward. This is about getting someone confirmed, so they can mark the direction of this court for the next 35 years. Because they can always get the House and the Senate back in two years.

VAUSE: OK.

LORRAINE: I think the Democrats are the ones that are really short- sighted about all this. They are trying everything in the book to delay this, install this, and block the confirmation.

VAUSE: They are saying anything bad behavior on both sides.

LORRAINE: Yes, there has been. And I think anyone who can't decipher this for what it is which is -- which appears to be a political stunt, at least, everyone could admit that this appears this is bad optics for the Democrats, right? It is bad optics and I think a lot of people can admit to that and if you don't, it's pretty naive and a lot of people are going say that bull left has been a suffer from it.

VAUSE: OK. Here's part of Jim Acosta's reporting. "Trump's comments on the accuser Debbie Ramirez, today did not sit well with some GOP Senators per a senior GOP aide who said, 'Republicans from the president down have to tread incredibly lightly this week not make it harder for the more moderate Republicans to vote with them."

And here's one of those sort of more moderate Republicans who could actually decide the fate of Kavanaugh's nomination.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should there be a full FBI investigation into these allegations from Kavanaugh's past?

SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R-AK), CHAIRMAN, ENERGY AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE: Well, it would sure -- it would sure clear up with the questions, wouldn't it?

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VAUSE: DeAnna, sure would clear all the questions when he have the FBI investigation?

LORRAINE: Well, I think they had 35 years to investigate. And if she really wanted something extremely thorough, why not 35 years ago, why not 10 years ago? Why?

VAUSE: As the allegations didn't come up until they said, last week.

LORRAINE: What I'm saying, well, why didn't she bring this up years ago? What are the FBI -- was the FBI going to find that they can't find after this trial.

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VAUSE: She was thinking (INAUDIBLE). Who knows!

KELLY: Who knows?

LORRAINE: Right? I mean, they don't have a (INAUDIBLE).

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VAUSE: They don't want to clear Kavanaugh's name, then? Is it when that be better situation to be?

LORRAINE: I think, why can't he clear his name through a -- through a hearing?

VAUSE: Because this is (INAUDIBLE) to clear his name, this is -- there is no investigation. The witness is being called.

LORRAINE: There they're both -- they're both under oath, they're both going to testify, they're both going to say what their experiences, and you know, and I think that that's going to be the end of this. KELLY: And they could have the vote regardless.

LORRAINE: House wants to say that this FBI investigation isn't going to turn into another two-year-long witch-hunt, right?

KELLY: Oh, it's a witch hunt already.

LORRAINE: Yes, I'm just saying. I mean, what about believe her, this #believe her statement that's coming out. You know, why are we blindly believing someone and we haven't even heard them yet under oath? We haven't seen the evidence.

KELLY: I see.

VAUSE: I want you to get to Rush Limbaugh who is you know the -- this is item number nine, guys. Yes, this is the conservative talk radio guru, MacDaddy of them all. He knows exactly what's to play here and what's going on. There he is.

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RUSH LIMBAUGH, CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, THE RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW: If the Republicans do not get this vote taken and have Kavanaugh confirm, you can kiss the midterms goodbye. You can kiss goodbye holding the House and you can kiss goodbye holding the Senate.

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VAUSE: For Mo, Rush's speaks the truth.

KELLY: The MacDaddy is right on this but there's only one party in power, so there's only one party with anything to lose. Yes, they've made the political calculation that the willing to risk it. But there are consequences if they do lose the House and possibly the Senate.

VAUSE: Big consequences. So, DeAnna, last word to you.

LORRAINE: Well, I think that we need to just move on. With it and I think that we also have to be really concerned about the long-term consequences, like I said, for women and for genuine assault survivors. And that's what's going to be the consequences of this shortsightedness I think from the left.

VAUSE: OK. I thank you both for being with us. It was a good discussion. Big Daddy the U.N. General Assembly but I guess not quite so much as the president thought it might turn out to be.

KELLY: You said, MacDaddy.

VAUSE: MacDaddy.

LORRAINE: MacDaddy.

VAUSE: You know, I love the guy. OK, when we come back, the milestone for the MeToo movement. America's dad, Bill Cosby led the way and handcuffs are being sentenced to prison for sexual assault. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[01:21:49] VAUSE: In recent years, more than 60 women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby of sexual assault. And after all of those accusations, all of those harrowing accounts, the court has finally sent him to prison.

The 81-year-old is now officially classified a sexually violent predator and will serve between three and 10 years for attacking a woman who once considered him to be a mentor. A Camila Bernal, reports.

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KEVIN STEELE, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MONTGOMERY COUNTY: For decades, the defendant has been able to hide his true self and hide his crimes using his fame and fortune. Finally, Bill Cosby has been unmasked and we have seen the real man as he is headed off to prison.

CAMILA BERNAL, CNN BILINGUAL NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A Pennsylvania judge has ordered Bill Cosby to spend 3-10 years in state prison. Denying the defense attorneys request for house arrest. They had argued Cosby is blind and only a danger to himself. The 81-year-old known for decades as America's dad was convicted in April of drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004.

Before he was sentenced, the judge labeled Cosby as a sexually violent predator. The classification means he will have to register with State Police and attend sex offender counseling for the rest of his life. His accusers say it's a punishment fit for the crime.

GLORIA ALLRED, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: They feel that what was done to them was sexually violent and that the person who did it to them is a sexually violent predator.

BERNAL: His lawyer says, they plan to appeal the conviction.

ANDREW WYATT, SPOKESPERSON OF BILL COSBY: Mr. Cosby's defense team is preparing a motion to address Mr. Steele use a falsified evidence, Mr. Cosby clearly has been denied his right to a fair trial.

BERNAL: In Norristown, Pennsylvania. I'm Camila Bernal, reporting.

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VAUSE: And with us now from Pennsylvania is Caroline Heldman. Caroline is a regular guest on CNN, but usually as a Democratic strategist. But she's also an advocate for survivors of sexual abuse. She was in the courtroom when Cosby was sentenced. Caroline, good to have you with us.

CAROLINE HELDMAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Great to be here, John. In the courtroom, more than a dozen Cosby accusers were there as the sentence was handed down. They never got their day in court. But obviously, they were relieved, they were pleased with the judge's decision. Is it a little bit too trite there to say justice for one is justice for all?

HELDMAN: Well, I think that a lot of survivors actually do see this as being a significant case because it's the first legal case of the MeToo movement, and the jury ruled in a way that -- you know, benefited survivors -- believed to survivors, And then, the sentence today, it ranges from 3-10 years and 10 years was the maximum.

So, it was a victory today I think for a lot of survivors even if he weren't in that courtroom because of its symbolic significance is the first case in the MeToo movement.

VAUSE: Here is a little more from Andrea Constand victim's statement which the judge read from in court. This part you're about to hear deals with her emotional state just a few days after the attack. "The shame was overwhelming. Self-doubt and confusion kept me from turning to my family or friends as I normally did. I felt completely alone, unable to trust anyone, including myself."

And then, she writes about the years that went on. She said, "I've never married and I have no partner. I live alone. My dogs are my constant companions, and the members of my immediate family are my closest friends."

How difficult is that experience as she writes about there and is there an acceptance out of just the lifelong impact of sexual assault?

[01:25:21] HELDMAN: I've -- John, I'm glad that you brought up the lifelong impact because what Drey described in that statement was echoed after the trial or after the sentencing by a number of other Cosby survivors who met a few blocks away from the courthouse.

Sunni Wells, for example, talked about how -- you know, she was -- perhaps, the first victim of Bill Cosby, 50 years ago. And that she has had trouble in her relationships and feels very isolated and alone. And many of the other survivors describe the same scenario.

It is very typical for survivors to have issues in terms of PTSD, about half of sexual assault survivors end up having some sort of anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder which interferes with all sorts of things in your life. Whether it be sleeping, being able to stay in school or in relationships.

So, unfortunately, what Drey is describing is quite common. And a verdict or a sentence like what was handed down today, I think brought closure to a lot of Cosby survivors. But at the end of the day, they still have to live with the trauma that really is lifelong.

VAUSE: In that courtroom, Cosby was labeled a sexually violent predator. You know, he was very visibly stripped off, you know, his trappings of power if you like, his wall that was taken away, he was handcuffed. How important is it for a victim or victims to see all of that?

HELDMAN: Well, unfortunately, the Cosby survivors who were in the courtroom weren't allowed to watch the handcuffs being put on. They were actually escorted out the courtroom and was cleared because they were worried about safety concerns. And a lot of survivors in the courtroom that I spoke with wanted that closure.

But you know, then seeing the images of him walking out that did mean a lot to them. Because for a lot of them, you know, he has imprisoned them in their own lives and their own trauma. And so, seeing him in handcuffs really brought -- you know, a bit of healing a new stage of healing that they haven't had before.

And I think it's important to note that even as Cosby was about to be handcuffed, he was jovial, he was joking, he was laughing. He rolled up his sleeves with his P.R. person Andrew Wyatt. And they were just having a good all time.

And the judge said, that his -- Cosby's lack of -- you know, remorse or taking responsibility weighed heavily in giving the 10-year sentence.

VAUSE: You know, the same year that Cosby sexually attacked Andrea Constand, he delivered what is now known as his infamous pound cake speech. Here's part of it.

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BILL COSBY, CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER: I'm talking about these people who cry when this understanding there in an orange suit. Where were you when it was two? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18? And how come you don't know he had a pistol.

These are not -- these, these are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake.

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VAUSE: Yes. Well, you know, that's just one of many patronizing speeches with this moralizing turn which were highly critical of African-Americans which Cosby delivered over the years. He's never admitted to do anything wrong in the Constand case. And even outside the court, his publicist said -- you know, Cosby was being deliberately persecuted here and compared him to Jesus.

I -- this seems just totally delusional. Is it typical of sexual predators?

HELDMAN: I -- unfortunately it is. Right, a lot of sexual predators suffer from narcissism or a sociopathic or psychopathic personality disorder. And so, they are unable to take responsibility. It is remarkable though, that Bill Cosby who has been criticized for years for moralizing and blaming impoverished African-Americans for systemic racism and other things that produce poverty and criminality in our culture.

I mean, it is a strange that he dedicated so many books and speeches and talks to criticizing -- you know, young African-American men in particular. And here he is in an orange jumpsuit.

I think that there's a big disconnected that we saw in the courtroom today that he really doesn't think he did anything wrong, even though to date, there are 62 women who have gone public, either named or unnamed, who described a disturbing pattern of behavior that he was engaging in at the very same time that he was giving these moralizing speeches.

VAUSE: Yes. It's bizarre and ironic and a whole bunch of things which we could get into. But let's leave it there, Caroline. Thank you. Thank you so much for being with us. Really appreciate it.

HELDMAN: Thank you, John.

VAUSE: Still to come here -- Pope Francis acknowledging what many Catholics already know. At the same time, it seems, he might be defending the cover-up of the sexual abuse by the clergy at least in the case of past accusations of sexual abuse.

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VAUSE: Welcome back. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles.

I'm John Vause. The headlines this hour --

Donald Trump has rejected globalism during his address to the United Nations saying the world is best served when countries focus on their own self-interest. He was also laughed at when he claimed his administration has accomplished more than almost all of his predecessors.

The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a Friday vote on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh at a day after they'll hear from the woman who has accused the judge of sexually assaulting her three decades ago.

The committee has hired a female attorney to question that woman, Christine Blasey Ford.

Disgraced comedian Bill Cosby will serve three to ten years in prison for drugging and sexually assaulting a woman 14 years ago. This sentence represents a symbolic victory to the dozens of women who accused Cosby of sexual misconduct. Cosby's lawyer plans to appeal the conviction.

The Catholic Church has officially released a report into the sexual abuse by clergy in Germany and there is a staggering number of victims. The investigation was commissioned by the German Bishops Conference and found over seven decades nearly 3,700 children were abused. And as Atika Shubert reports, the actual number of victims might be a lot more than that.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The most powerful man in the German Catholic Church -- bishops, archbishops and cardinals attend morning mass at the St. Salvatore Cathedral to open their annual meeting with a prayer to forgive the weakness and sins of the church. CARDINAL REINHARD MARX, GERMAN CATHOLIC BISHOPS CONFERENCE (through

translator): It is shameful. We are always shocked and deeply shaken to find this happened and may still happen in side our Church committed by priests and clergy -- people of god who were given the task of watching over us.

We've addressed this before but we must do it more again and again.

SHUBERT: On Tuesday, the German Bishops Conference finally released an eight-year study of church files that revealed a staggering amount of sexual abuse -- at least 3,600 recorded victims, more than 1,600 priests and other clergy implicated over a span of nearly seven decades; more than half children 13 years or younger, most of them boys.

[01:35:02] Matthias Katsch was 13 when he was molested and beaten by two separate priests. He was one of the first victims to go public in Germany but because the abuse took place in a school, not within a parish his case and many others are not included in the report.

MATTHIAS KATSCH, CLERGY ABUSE SURVIVOR: The message for the survivor and for the general public is we did not want to know everything. We only wanted to know an overview of the problem.

SHUBERT: Pope Francis has championed a zero-tolerance policy on sexual abuse, past and present. But while the governments of the U.S. and Australia have initiated independent investigations, Germany's Catholic Church offered only a limited study without direct access to its archives, frustrating abuse survivors.

KATSCH: For the survivor, the urgency is we want to know the truth now. We have waited for so long time, we want it now.

SHUBERT: It has taken years for the German Bishops Conference to report even this much but the victims now hope this will be a turning point to push the Catholic Church for accountability and justice.

Atika Shubert, CNN -- Fulda, Germany.

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VAUSE: Well, Thomas Rausch is a professor of Catholic Theology at Loyola Marymount University here in Los Angeles and he joins us now.

Father -- thanks for taking the time to be with us.

REV. THOMAS RAUSCH, PROFESSOR OF CATHOLIC THEOLOGY, LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY IN LOS ANGELES: Good evening -- John.

VAUSE: Ok. The big headline from the Pope is it came during that visit to Estonia, this admission that he made came with the clergy sex scandal is driving the faithful away. I want you to listen to a little more from Francis, talking about the impact the scandal has had on young people. Here he is.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) POPE FRANCIS, ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH (through translator): In fact, some of them expressly asked to left alone because they feel the Church's presence as bothersome or even irritating. And this is true. They are outraged when they do not see clear condemnations of sexual and economic scandal by our unpreparedness to really appreciate the lives and sensibilities of the young and simply by the passive role we assign them.

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VAUSE: You know, Father -- this all seems to come directly from (INAUDIBLE) but I guess, what -- is it not so obvious Within the Vatican itself. Is this why Pope Francis said this publicly? Who's the audience here?

RAUSCH: I think he's trying to speak to the whole church system so devastated by this crisis, this sexual abuse crisis. I think really this is the biggest crisis the Catholic Church has faced since the Reformation (ph).

And for a while it was focused on the priests but now it's focused on the failures of leadership, the bishops especially, who have been so remiss in dealing realistically with these abusive priests, sometimes reassigning them, not being open about it, not disciplining them or turning them over to the authorities.

And so I think there's a great deal of anger among the people in the church. My only hope is that just as the Reformation led to a major reform in the Catholic Church, it is much too late but in response to the Reformation.

So hopefully this crisis is going to force the church finally to look at all sorts of issues like its leadership, like including more lay people in decision-making in trying to make our processes a little more transparent. That's the best that could come out of this.

Meanwhile we have all of these thousands of victims that the church needs to find some way to minister to.

VAUSE: You know, one thing which is also interesting, just as, you know, Pope Francis -- Pope Francis was making that acknowledgment about the damage this has all done to the church, he also seemed to defend the church when it came to allegations of sexual abuse. And this is admittedly -- this was way back in the past. Again, here's Pope Francis. Listen to this.

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POPE FRANCIS: In ancient times these things were covered up, they were even covered up in homes. Then an uncle raped a niece, when a father raped his children -- it was covered up because it was an enormous shame. That was the mentality in the last centuries -- in the last century.

(END VIDEO CLIP) VAUSE: So is Pope Francis making an admission here that the Church was actually involved in the cover up of sexual abuse cases at least in the past?

RAUSCH: I think he may be saying that. He was saying we didn't deal with this realistically. But certainly we've covered them up today and that's his concern today that if we find ways to realistically and with transparency acknowledge the problems of our leadership and find ways to move beyond I guess we have to look very seriously at some of our governmental structures.

VAUSE: I just want to -- just throw this at bat. Is the church -- is the Pope entitled to the "hey, everyone was doing it at the time" defense?

RAUSCH: That's not a very good defense in my opinion.

VAUSE: Ok. So it does seem that this is a pope who has struggled to get ahead of all of this, trying to work the right message and the right line of action that needs to be taken. And it still seems that they're struggling.

[01:40:03] RAUSCH: Well, I think that Pope Francis has been a little slow on two issues that have damaged his papacy, good as he has been. He has been slow in responding to this. We saw that certainly in regards to the situation in Chile which was on the news at the beginning of this summer.

And he has been I think remiss in finding ways to include women more in the leadership of the church. These are two of the issues that people will fault him on in his leadership although generally people are very impressed with his very real efforts to reform the church.

And now with this crisis that's become so global -- you know for a while people tried to say well this is a problem of the United States. And then it surfaced in Germany. And then it surfaced in Belgium. Then it surfaced in Austria. Then it surfaced in Ireland almost destroying the Irish church. So it has become a global for the Catholic Church.

VAUSE: And with that in mind, you read now this report from Germany. Atika Shubert just reported on this. You have the 3,600 abuse victims -- children who were abused by clergy. I want you to listen to Cardinal Reinhard Marx, chairman of the German Bishops Conference, the group which commissioned this investigation.

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MARX: I also feel ashamed because of the many people who turned a blind eye, who did not want it to be true what happened, who trivialized things and did not want to listen. And I'm including myself. We did not listen enough to the victims.

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VAUSE: I'm just -- if we listen to what Pope Francis said just a few hours earlier as he spoke on the papal plane, now we listen to the German bishop. Is there a noticeable shift here in how the church is looking and dealing with the sex abuse crisis? Is there a deliberate attempt with the emphasis now on the victims and what they've gone through and taking their allegations seriously away from attempting to defend the church?

RAUSCH: Well, I think it has to be both. We have to be concerned, first of all about the victims. As Cardinal Marx said we have not addressed this -- he's really talking about the bishops. He's talking about the failure of leadership.

There was a survey just released two days ago that said over half of the Dutch bishops covered up the crimes of priests abusing young people in the Netherlands. And so this is a challenge to the leadership of the church like few things have been in recent history of the church.

VAUSE: Yes. I would just say Pope Francis has received, you know, high praise and good marks on pretty much everything except this --

RAUSCH: On so many things.

VAUSE: -- issue. Yes. But this is the issue which could have defined his papacy but -- so we'll see what happens.

Father Thomas -- thank you so much. Great to have you with us.

RAUSCH: Thank you -- John. Good night.

VAUSE: Good night.

A short break here. When we come back on NEWSROOM L.A. the third super typhoon in the western Pacific in just the past month heading for Japan.

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VAUSE: Well, Typhoon Trami heading towards the Ryukyu Islands of Southern Japan and could hit the mainland within days.

Meteorologist Ivan Cabrera joins us now with more. So if you have weekend plans in Japan -- when is the best (INAUDIBLE).

IVAN CABRERA, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well yes, it's going to rain very heavily. But we're going to have some strong winds.

Here's the good news -- John Vause, good to see you. This storm is weakening and it is certainly not a super typhoon any longer. In fact at the 48-hour loop (ph), you can see what has happened here. This one from a classic monster typhoon on the western Pacific -- look at that.

Towards the end of the loop there, a dry air and training into the eye, that's an indication now that it is certainly weaker. 205 kilometer per hour winds -- that what's the Joint Typhoon Warning Center is saying, probably a bit generous in my view. At the next advisory, we'll have those winds, certainly south of 200. So there's the storm now in the middle of nowhere, so that's good. But watch what happens as we put this in motion for you -- 24, 48. So in about three days just to the west of Okinawa this is going to bisect the Ryukyu Islands. It's going to go west in fact into the East China Sea and then eventually in Kagoshima, we are there Sunday morning into Sunday afternoon with a whole lot of tropical moisture which will translate into some very heavy rainfall.

So let's put this into motion. There we are. Impact Saturday morning, the strongest of the winds, the heaviest of the rain will be through Okinawa and the rest of the Ryukyu Island. And then we're looking at Sunday morning for Kagoshima and that is when we're talking about the worst effects there.

But for the rest of Japan, this is really going to be a big rain event because by the time it heads into Kagoshima, it will weaken as far as the wind field. Just look at the rainfall we're forecasting, anywhere from 100 to 300 millimeters of rainfall heading into the upcoming weekend and continue really right into Monday as well -- John.

VAUSE: Ivan -- as always good to see you. Guess I'll be seeing a lot more of you actually in the coming weeks.

CABRERA: Indeed.

VAUSE: Appreciate it.

CABRERA: Yes.

VAUSE: Thanks -- mate.

Ok the Israeli prime minister says military operations in Syria targeting Iranian forces and assets will continue despite Russia's plan if advanced anti-aircraft system to the Assad regime.

Russia has blamed Israel after one of its planes was mistakenly shot down by Syrian government forces. Moscow believes Israeli jets were using the Russian plane as cover. The Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed regret over the incident.

The U.S. airstrikes have been a deadly part of life for Syrians. And just minutes can make a difference between life and death. Now, a new app is able to warn civilians of an impending airstrike giving them precious minutes to take cover.

CNN's Arwa Damon explains.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Abdullah (INAUDIBLE) spends his time staring at the sky. He was a teacher but that was in another lifetime. He's a spotter now, part of a trained team on the ground across Syria, who report their observations on the types of aircraft they see and the direction they're headed. And he says it's about saving lives, to feel that joy of knowing he helped others defy death. His and other spotters' observations along with information on things like weather patterns and historical attack data feed into an algorithm that is part of an early warning system called Sentry by Hala System. It reaches its users via telegram and social media.

Hala is the brainchild of American John Jaeger and his team.

JOHN JAEGER, HALA SYSTEMS: This is not a new concept. So back in World War I and World War II and even after that, governments like the U.K. and the U.S. employed the use of trained civilians to act as airplane spotters. We just applied seven decades worth of technological advancement and essentially recreated that exact same system.

DAMON: So how fast is it from the point where a spotter inputs information to a warning actually being generated?

JAEGER: Sure. So within a few seconds of us receiving an observation that is high enough degree of confidence that it would trigger a warning, a few seconds from input to an activation of an air-raid siren and potentially attack the community.

DAMON: In Syria cell phone reception can be spotty but Abdel Salman (ph) recommends Hala to his customers.

"The warnings tell you where a plane is headed, what areas it's flying over. So if there are close shelters we can run to them," he explains.

Even for those who have a shelter, if's often makeshift. Mohamed, a young father of a two-month old baby dug out his own for his family and relatives. It's not much but it's all they have.

How effective do you think you've been able today?

[01:49:56] JAEGER: In a case where we're able to measure casualties in a location that's under heavy bombardment before and after our system is put into place and activated, we've seen up to a 27 percent reduction in lethality.

ARWA: John -- a former State Department employee says Hala came about as a realization that bars somehow stopping the bomb and violence (ph). There are few options to mitigate the impact of indiscriminate killing. And it's not just about saving lives in Syria.

JAEGER: You know, I think that the world spends a tremendous amount of time focusing energy and resources on a lot of downstream issues that start with violence against civilians -- migration, displacement, socio-economic issues.

It all starts with innocent people being killed indiscriminately. If we can help mitigate the effects of that violence, we think it could help (INAUDIBLE) not just for Syria but for every other country in the world. DAMON: Arwa Damon, CNN -- Istanbul.

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VAUSE: A legal turmoil right now in Sweden after the (INAUDIBLE) Prime Minister Stefan Lofven was toppled on Tuesday on a no- confidence. Newly elected speaker of parliament and leader of the moderates will now choose a new primary. The candidates must be voted in by lawmakers in that should make for a very difficult process.

Remember that heartwarming story from Paris? The undocumented immigrant who saved the little boy from falling from a balcony? Well, he's the part that's not so heartwarming. The father of the boy has been sentenced to prison but he won't serve time. The four-year-old was saved by this man. He scaled up the side of the building just in the nick of time.

This hero was (INAUDIBLE) by the man and he was going for French citizenship and a job on the Paris fire brigade. The child's father has said he was out shopping at the time and his lawyer says they had hoped for an acquittal, I guess, you know, for some kind of child neglect, adding that, you know, this guy actually is a really good father.

Donald Trump takes the world stage at the United Nations and is greeted not with any applause but with laughter. How the U.S. President has reacted. That's next up on NEWSROOM L.A.

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VAUSE: Well laugh and the world laughs with you. But if you're the U.S. president, it seems the world is laughing at you. Brian Todd has more on the President's not-so-funny day at the United Nations.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The President's swagger was expected. The laughter in response to it wasn't.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country. America's so true.

Didn't expect that reaction but that's ok.

MARC FISHER, AUTHOR: One of the phrases to watch for when you're looking at Donald Trump is "that's ok." When he says "that's ok", he's burning up inside.

MICHAEL D'ANTONIO, AUTHOR: You can assume that underneath this effort to get along with folks and be a good sport he is already setting down in his mind an agenda for revenge. This is the man who never forgets a slight.

TODD: Those who chronicled his life say Trump is obsessed with the idea of being laughed at -- a line he often repeats. TRUMP: The world is laughing at us. The world is laughing at the stupidity of what we have done with immigration.

We're the laughing stock of the world.

The world is laughing at us.

[01:54:56] TODD: At some moments in the U.N. General Assembly the world was laughing or at least smirking at President Trump as these German diplomats did. Biographers say for Donald Trump, being laughed at strikes at certain insecurities which go back a long way.

D'ANTONIO: For his entire life, Donald Trump has been worried about being humiliated himself. He is a person who's motivated by the desire to escape being shamed. He's always worried that people are laughing at him.

TODD: never was that more stark than on April 30th 2011. At the White House Correspondents Dinner, President Obama was relentless in roasting Trump.

BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: But no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the Donald. And that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like did we fake the moon landing? What really happened in Roswell? And where Biggie and Tupac.

TODD: The audience roared, Trump seethed.

D'ANTONIO: For Trump, this was a decisive moment. This was the exact moment when I think he decided I'm going to run for president and I'm going to beat that guy.

TODD: In the ensuing years Trump would invoke the laughing stock strategy when slamming Obama in tweets. And it has since become a political rallying cry for the President.

TRUMP: The world is laughing at us --

TODD: Because it plays to his most loyal supporters.

FISHER: From the very beginning of his 2016 campaign, Donald Trump had a keen visceral understanding that the people he was appealing to felt ridiculed, felt that they were being looked down upon, condescended to by the elites in America. And so he latched on to that theme which happened to jibe with things he'd been saying all of his life about being laughed at.

TODD: Trump biographers say we can expect the President to continue his laughing stock strategy well past the 2018 midterm election cycle and into 2020. they say it might backfire with some of his moderate supporters who might get tired of the self-victimization but they say for Trump's hard-core base, they'll always get fired up when he talks about being laughed at.

Brian Todd, CNN -- Washington. (END VIDEOTAPE)

VAUSE: No one likes being laughed at.

You're watching CNN NESROOM life from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause. A lot more news here on CNN after a short break.

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