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Very Different Reactions In Many Major U.S. Cities, Reactions To Today's Historic Confirmation And Swearing In Of The Newest U.S. Supreme Court Justice; Brett Kavanaugh Sworn In As Supreme Court Justice; Cop Found Guilty Of 2nd-Degree Murder In 2014 Shooting Of Teen; Indonesia Disaster Toll Rises; First Lady "Glad" Kavanaugh & Ford Were Both Heard. Aired 8-9p ET

Aired October 6, 2018 - 20:00   ET



[20:00:26] ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST: You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Ana Cabrera in Washington. Thank you for being with us.

Breaking news right now on CNN. Very different reactions in many major U.S. cities, reactions to today's historic confirmation and swearing in of the newest U.S. Supreme Court justice.

To Seattle, Washington and New York City, and the nation's capital, angry, frustrated protesters not accepting the elevation of Brett Kavanaugh to a seat on the highest court in the land. This was the moment when it became official.

Judge Kavanaugh now justice Kavanaugh swearing in to his new position on a family bible. His wife and two daughters by his side.

President Trump just a few minutes ago taking the stage in Topeka, Kansas, trumpeting his victory, the success of his nominee, and slamming those who took to the streets in anger.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is unthinkable, unthinkable. In their quest for power, the radical Democrats have turned into an angry mob. You saw that today with the screaming and the shouting. Not from the 200 people or less that were -- you know what, those people, they couldn't fit in the front row. Look what we have here tonight. They threw away and threw aside every notion of fairness, of justice, of decency and of due process. Nobody has seen anything like it.


CABRERA: CNN's Sarah Westwood is there where the President is still speaking.

Sarah, the President fired up. His crowd fired up. What more are you hearing?

SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, Ana, justice Kavanaugh's confirmation was the first topic out of President Trump's mouth tonight. He commented the Republicans who refused to back down in the base of what he described as a Democratic plot to destroy his nominee. And he previewed what will likely be central to his messaging over the next 30 days as he keeps up this packed political schedule, campaigning for Republicans and that is using the example of this bitter confirmation battle that Kavanaugh just endured in the Senate as a way to fire up GOP voters, as a way to warn about the consequences of what might happen if Democrats retake Congress in November, which is a very real possibility based on polling trends and history.

Take a listen to what he had to say tonight about that.

He compares Democrats to arsonists who might burn down the country if they were given the matches of power by joining Congress. He even said that he had been urged by aides not to come here and campaign tonight because of the historic events unfolding in Washington, but he decided to come anyway to campaign on behalf of gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach and on behalf of congressional candidate Steve Watkins who he introduced on the stage. He was clearly eager to take the victory lap, not just talking about Kavanaugh but also his trade deal, also the strides that he has made on deregulation which are won't hear more of his victory lap that tonight unfold -- Ana.

CABRERA: Right. Sarah Westwood in Topeka, Kansas for us, thank you.

CNN's Phil Mattingly, meantime, s on Capitol Hill right now where Brett Kavanaugh raised his hands a short time ago and went from judge to justice -- so.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ana, Brett Kavanaugh has been confirmed, Brett Kavanaugh has been sworn in. And the big question now at least here on Capitol Hill is what happens next? What happens next to the Senate? What happens next to the Supreme Court? What happens next in the country?

When you talk about the Senate itself, what's been kind of striking over the course of the last couple of days is how you have senators in both parties acknowledging things are in a bad place. It's something that I actually asked Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell about. He said look, the Senate will get through this, the country will get through this, he says this is a good day for Americans. Democrats obviously disagree entirely and will be able to voice their opinion on based on any number of things in the midterms, just about a month away. It's a big question now of what impact this will have. And if anybody is being honest with you, they will tell you they don't actually know. But this was McConnell's view. Take a listen.


SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R), MAJORITY LEADER: Our base is fired up. We finally discovered the one thing that would fire up the Republican base, and we didn't think of it. I was talking to two of my political advisers yesterday about the advantage that these guys by their tactics have given to us going into these red state competitive races. And we are pretty excited. They managed to deliver the only thing we had not been able to figure out how to do, which is to get our folks fired up. The other side is obviously fired up, they have been all year.


[20:05:07] MATTINGLY: Now, that endpoint that McConnell was made is a key one as well. That Democrats and their base have been fired up now for months if not the better part of the last year and a half. And so, how does this all turn?

Obviously, the House and Senate are two very different chambers that are more or less looking at very different voting blocs. And I think people are pretty convinced at this point in time that Democrats fairly have the advantage to retake the House and the Senate. The map looks a lot better for Republicans particularly if their base comes out.

But it all also comes back to the broader point. The election will give some answers. But look at the protesters, you look at the protesters over the course of the last two weeks, you look at how divisive the entire debate has been, how divisive this moment has been, and you have to ask the question that I think a lot of senators are asking, at least one in particular have asked me, are we at rock bottom? I think at least to some senators the answer is yes. Will that clear up in the future? That's a question nobody seems to have an answer to -- Ana.

CABRERA: Phil Mattingly on Capitol Hill for us, thank you.

Never before have we seen such contention and opposition to a Supreme Court nominee. The ACLU, more than 2,400 law professors, newspapers, the national council of churches, a retired Supreme Court justice, and many others, all voicing their opposition to Brett Kavanaugh. And yet he is confirmed. He is now justice Kavanaugh tonight.

Joining us now, CNN Supreme Court reporter Ariane De Vogue, president of the center for American progress Neera Tanden, Anita McBride, American University center for congressional and presidential studies and CNN political analyst Jackie Kucinich.

So wow, we just listed all the opposition. And yet he is confirmed. I'll start with you, since we just heard from the President, we heard from Mitch McConnell. You are the Democrat on the panel here with us, Neera. What's your reaction? How did we end up in this spot?

NEERA TANDEN, PRESIDENT/CEO, CENTERS FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS: Well, I mean, we ended up in this spot because Republicans control the majority, and Mitch McConnell was able to get the vast majority of the Republican party to vote for a conservative justice.

But I think the truth is that, you know, I came into politics through the Anita Hill hearings. That was 30 year -I mean, 27 years ago now. And I think this could really be a pyrrhic victory for Republicans, in the sense that I think this is going to be a turning point for activism. People have talked about the activists and how much active -- how active Democrats are. But I think there is a whole generation of women who could really enter politics for the first time.

And I don't think this was a political moment. I think this was really a national cultural moment where a woman came forward with credible accusations. And there was really a rush to get to the signing. Comments like Lindsey Graham's which were really insulting to Dr. Ford I think have energized women even more. And there are different kinds of races. We will see in red states versus blue states. But I think in a lot of part of this country, women are going to be active in a way that we haven't seen before.

CABRERA: If you listen to what the President said earlier today though, he seemed to think this was more of a moment for him and the Republican Party. And he really framed it in the sense that he believed that justice Kavanaugh is there because there was more support for him. And the feeling that he was treated unfairly. The President even saying he thought his comments about Ford and sort of going after her accusations and how she presented those accusations at the hearing, Anita, really rallied support more, more support for Kavanaugh. Is that how you see it?

ANITA MCBRIDE, AMERICAN UNIVERSITY CENTER FOR CONGRESSIONAL AND PRESIDENTIAL STUDIES: I wish he hadn't done that. There are a lot of things I wish he wouldn't say because I think it inflames things unnecessarily. And you know, I hear from senator McConnell that this is a good day. It may be a good day but at what cost? I mean, I think the country is really reeling and suffering in a number of ways. This has been a grueling 14 weeks. And I think it has been synthesized so perfectly in a 42-minute speech by Susan Collins who truly took the time to research not only his record and so many of those organizations supported judge Kavanaugh as a judge before this process and before this process started to fall apart.

And to Neera's point about emboldening women, I agree with that and on both sides. Because I have to say there are a lot of us who quietly and effectively sort of banded together as women and stood up with each other but stood up for Brett.

A dividing moment for me in the 14 weeks, I will just say, is when Senator Booker said if you stand with Brett Kavanaugh, you are complicit with evil. And I have to say that really struck me. And it struck a lot of people like me pretty hard.

[20:10:00] CABRERA: I just wonder where we are going from here, Jackie. Because this division is so raw, it's getting deeper. You talked about Cory Booker's words. We heard the President tonight essentially making Kavanaugh the hero and Democrats the villain. And the quote that Sarah had referenced earlier was, you don't hand matches to an arsonist and say and you don't give power to an angry left wing mob.

JACKIE KUCINICH, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, the President loves to vilify the other side. That is something he has done, be it on his Republican opponents during the primary, be it Hillary Clinton, be it anyone who has stand in between him and something he wants. That's very much rhetorically what we have seen. Now, we will see if this continues into the midterms. I think it

might in certain races because it worked. It has worked for the President so far. I mean, I hate to say it, it really, it has dragged politics down to this, as senators were saying, this bottom of the barrel level. But at this point, the midterms are really going to tell us whether or not what the President is doing, what he says, whether his rhetoric is acceptable to voters. It's the ultimate test.

ARIANE DE VOGUE, CNN SUPREME COURT REPORTER: It's extraordinary how much he has used the court, though. I mean, early on, before he was nominated, he got on to this and he said, I'm going to have a retirement and I want to change the face of the court and he did. Not only has he had these two huge seats but he has the lower courts. And there you see him again tonight, he is campaigning on the courts. And he is not talking the divisions in the country. And he is promising one other thing as we heard earlier. He said, well, I may have more retirements. So he is not backing away.

TANDEN: I only think I say to that is the energy on the Brett Kavanaugh hearing before Dr. Ford, I think most people, most experts recognized the vast majority of the calls going into Congress were against Kavanaugh. All the rallies, energy was against Kavanaugh. Dr. Ford, the energy over the last two weeks has been really against Kavanaugh. There haven't been that many calls for Kavanaugh.

It's been a challenge. And I do think Mitch McConnell is right that some Republicans have been energized by this. But I think what Mitch McConnell is also admitting, just to make this point, is before this, Brett Kavanaugh wasn't energizing Republicans, wasn't energizing the base. And I think the real challenge is going forward, Republicans now have the 5-4 majority.

As suggested earlier, they won this victory. It's my experience in politics that the victors are not the people angriest into the election, it's the defeated. And the truth is, on this issue, we have not seen widespread protests in the country in favor of Brett Kavanaugh, even in the reddest parts of the country. We have only seen it in the - we have only seen really progressives and Democratic base progressives gets concern about.

CABRERA: The President is arguing that the protests we are seeing tonight are relatively small.

TANDEN: OK. I say the anger and intensity on the hill over the last two weeks matched the affordable care act. It didn't have the same result but it matched that level of intensity. I think most honest Republicans and Democrats would tell you on the hill that the calls of (INAUDIBLE) into Congress was ere pretty one-sided and it was all anti-Kavanaugh.

They control the Senate. The Republicans control the senate. And I think the question really will be, in this defeat, will women hear a message that their concerns are not met by, again, that overwhelmingly male picture of the Senate Judiciary Committee and will they be become more active than they otherwise would.

MCBRIDE: I think women on both sides will, I really do.

KUCINICH: I was just going to add, what I was hearing, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, from Republicans, if this had stayed perhaps with Christine Blasey Ford and perhaps Deborah Ramirez and their allegations, that would have been one thing. But when it started to feel like a pile-on, when you started -- people started digging into, and there are very legitimate stories from people about, you know, his drinking habits. Some of the stories from college, from high school. It started to feel like a pile-on. And it united -- it had the effect of uniting Republicans behind this nominee in a way perhaps there was a little bit of nervousness on the -- when Christine Blasey Ford's allegations first came out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Particularly on the Avenatti claims.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Republican senators have been talking about that all week.

CABRERA: I want to show you what we are now seeing in a tweet from Congressman Steven King. He writes, soon babies like this little angel will be protected in the womb by law, referring there to Roe v. Wade, you know.

Other Republicans, you mentioned Susan Collins, and she sort of made the case for more of a moderate perspective. We know Roe v. Wade was important to her. She has presented herself as more, in her words, I guess, pro-choice. But she said or expressed sort of an assurance from Kavanaugh that that is established law. But then you have a tweet like this from King. Is Roe safe or not?

MCBRIDE: Well, I think and I'm glad that you brought up Susan Collins in this as sort of the measure for women who are worried about this, because there is no doubt in her entire career in the Senate that has been very important to her. And she is a pro-choice senator. She does not want Roe v. Wade to come under attack and be at risk. She spent probably more time understanding his record.

When I heard her say how she not only spent two hours with him directly but researched his 300 cases, had the congressional research service come in and sit with her and go through his opinions, his law articles --

[20:015:43] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But you know him personally.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is Roe safe or not? What do you think?

MCBRIDE: He is a catholic like I am and I think Roe is safe. I absolutely do.

TANDEN: I mean, this is one of the challenges here, because Republicans, one of the reasons why Republicans are so active about the courts is because -- or conservatives are so active about the courts is because -- and the federalist society says this, is because they wanted to overturn Roe. So this is really the challenge here, is that the conservative activists, the conservative activists who came on board for him were mostly pro-life groups. That's the energy behind this. And so I think that there is a real wink and a nod that's happened here.

If you really look at his opinions and you look at what Susan Collins said, he has had, you know, his own emails from the White House. There's a plenty of evidence that he does not consider Roe settled law. In fact, he basically wrote that when he was White House staff secretary. He sees Roe as not settled law, despite what he said.

So I think this is at least an open question. I think the idea that Susan Collins knows for sure that he will not be or has really feels assured by that is disingenuous.

CABRERA: We also know, Ariane, the Supreme Court does sometimes change settled law and did in the last couple of years.

DE VOGUE: Well, just last term they overturned 40-year-old precedent. So that's what the other side says to Susan Collins. Look, they are overturn President.

But I have to say as the person who covers the Supreme Court and as a person who doesn't cover politics, to listen about the impact of this on the midterms and who will change and what will change, one thing that is not going to change now is the Supreme Court's conservative majority.

We are looking at decades and decades. If he stays on the bench, you know, if he reaches 80, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's age, we are talking about 2050. That's a long time. So the political process may feel this impact back and forth, but the court now has this solid 5-4 and it is a gigantic victory for President Trump.

CABRERA: Absolutely. And it's going to inspire a lot of people to become more active in politics.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree with that.

CABRERA: But that's not going to impact the Supreme Court.

MCBRIDE: And I think beyond her leeway, the conservatives really do care about an encroaching administrative state. And also the fact that the Congress needs to do its job better. Some of these things don't even have to come to the Supreme Court.

CABRERA: Jackie, I want to give you the last word. Do you hear from Democrats, are they going into the midterms now with a united strategy and is Kavanaugh and the courts part of that strategy?

KUCINICH: In part. I mean, I think you are hearing a lot about health care and how some of the Democrats, among like Claire McCaskill, decided to vote against Kavanaugh because of healthcare. I think as far as a united strategy, Neera was speaking about, there doesn't really seem to be a united strategy. They don't have the same --.

TANDEN: Because they are Democrats.


TANDEN: Totally effective in bringing a lot of people --.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are vocal, that's for sure.

KUCINICH: Right. So I don't know there's a united strategy. But certainly they are going to use this as a motivating factor going into the midterms. They are certainly going to try.

CABRERA: All right. I am told right now the President is addressing Susan Collins and her comments as he continues his rally.

Anita, Jackie, Neera, Ariane, thank you. Ladies, stay with me, because we have more to discuss including more on how justice Kavanaugh's appointment will affect the midterm races. We will dive into that deeper when we come back.


TRUMP: He was great. He worked hard. And we got ourselves the finest legal mind, one of the finest human beings. And again, what his family took, the horror that they had to endure by these people, like Blumenthal and Cory Booker who was a disaster as the mayor of Newark, New Jersey. What they had to take was a disgrace. The only reason to vote Democrat is if you're tired of winning, right? Tired of winning. We want to win, win, win. We will never get tired of winning.



[20:24:02] CABRERA: Happening right now, protests erupting over new Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh. Demonstrators showing outrage in Washington and across the nation, powerful emotions triggered by the Kavanaugh brutal confirmation fight showing no signs of subsiding, yet hundreds of protesters have been arrested after swarming the U.S. capitol and the Supreme Court. And now watch this in Seattle.


CROWD: Hey, hey, ho, ho, Kavanaugh has got to go!


CABRERA: As the vote took place on Kavanaugh's confirmation, screams and outbursts could be heard inside the Senate chamber. The President has called the demonstrators troublemakers and actors, says they are being paid. He also tweeted this, the crowd in front of the U.S. Supreme Court is

tiny, looks like about 200 people and most are onlookers, that wouldn't even fill the first couple of rows of our Kansas rally or any of our rallies for that matter. Fake news media tries to make it look so big and it's not.

Everyone is back with us.

Anita, when you see the level of anger that is out there and just passion and frustration, do you think Republicans should be worried?

[20:25:18] MCBRIDE: Well, I think that one thing I heard the President is wrong. People have a right to speak out. They are feeling passions and this is our system.

CABRERA: You don't see them as troublemakers?

MCBRIDE: I don't see them as troublemakers. But I do see that people need to -- we all need to help, any of us in our position to be talking like this or involved in this policy or political process need to do everything we can to help turn down the heat a little bit and have a discourse that actually is productive.

If you told me 17 years ago when I first met Brett Kavanaugh in the White House in January 2001 that he was going to be the person to elicit this kind of reaction in the country, I would have said you are absolutely out of your mind.

CABRERA: Do you know how he is reacting to this? Because I know you do know.

MCBRIDE: Well, you saw how he is reacting, you know. I mean, you saw in 31 hours of testimony he was the jurist.


MCBRIDE: In the hour that he spent last Thursday defending himself as a human being, as a father, as a son, as, you know, a husband, it was a different reaction. It was a personal attack. And I'm not saying it came out great for him. But I'm saying if I were in his position, I'm not sure I could do it differently. What I'm saying is, knowing him all these years and just the collegial, quiet, effective, ethical, best colleague I have ever had, and I have been in this town a long time, there's a handful of people I would go to the wall for and he is one. And I told you that last week.

TANDEN: I mean, I think the challenge here is that when he testified last week, we saw a completely different person. It was not like, you know, it was a minute or two. It's one thing to defend yourself against a charge. It's another to pretty much attack senators, to go after senators when a senator asks you a legitimate question about whether it's possible you blacked out because you have two different pieces of testimony, you say to a U.S. senator, have you blacked out.

I have never seen any behavior like by a person who is trying to be an assistant secretary of commerce, let alone a Supreme Court justice. And so, I think the problem is Brett Kavanaugh himself has done series of things that have inflame the passions. It's not like this all just happened to him. He testified, and when he testified, he was incredibly angry and he was incredibly angry at Democrats.

And the idea that we have a Supreme Court justice who as part of his process said what goes around comes around, and people can spin that to be about the Democratic nomination process but I think most people in the country heard it as an attack on the Democratic Party. And I think that is the reason why he is going to be a tainted justice in the eyes of a good percentage of this country if not half, for years to come.

KUCINICH: Well, and Neera, he actually -- another unprecedented thing happened as a result of that testimony, which he had to run a "Wall Street Journal" op-ed.


KUCINICH: The fact that it had to be run at all tells you how even corners of the Republican Party weren't happy about that. I mean, you talk about the tenor and the tone. One of the things - I have covered Capitol Hill for a long time. And I have never seen so many senators with capitol policemen walking around. One of the greatest things about covering Capitol Hill is that you run into these people in the halls and you can just have a conversation with them, be it a reporter, be it a citizen, be it whomever.

This week they had police escorts. The death threats to senators and their staff, I mean, it's unacceptable, it was disgusting, and that, to your point about the temperature, is something that does need to come down, because that's not OK.

CABRERA: Let me read you though what we heard from Debbie Ramirez in a statement after today's events with Kavanaugh being confirmed now.

She wrote, I feel like I'm right back at Yale where half the room is laughing and looking the other way, only this time instead of drunk college kids it is U.S. senators who are deliberately ignoring his behavior, referring to Kavanaugh. This is how victims are isolated and silenced.

Anita, I know how you feel about Kavanaugh, but bigger picture, if that's how women who have been sexually assaulted feel, do you think that this is helping Republicans with women?

MCBRIDE: I will say this, I watched a lot. I went to the gallery last night. I listened to Senator Booker. I listened to Senator Sanders. And then, and I honestly have to say I couldn't sleep. I watched a lot of this through the night. I watched today. And actually senator Murray made -- Patty Murray, made such a great comment.

[20:30:00] She said, you know, if the Republicans think that women are going to be silenced, they're not, they're emboldened.

And she's right. I think women are emboldened. And I feel for Ms. Ramirez, I feel for Dr. Blasey Ford. I know that family too. Washington is a small community. Everybody is affected by this. People are not going to be silenced, though.

CABRERA: Jackie, did Republicans in this process do anything to tell women we hear you, we support you, and we want your vote?

KUCINICH: I think on the front end, there was some of that, but there was a very conscious decision to go full on behind Brett Kavanaugh and to not -- to not take into account a lot of the fallout that this might cause.

I think they were walking a really hard line. I don't even know what to say. If they -- if you ask them, they're going to say, well, you know, these couldn't be substantiated. I'm just telling you what --

CABRERA: I don't want to suggest that all women care about are things having to do with sexual assault or anything. We know they care about the economy.

MCBRIDE: They care about fairness.

NEERA TANDEN, FORMER POLICY DIRECTOR TO HILLARY CLINTON: I think the picture here is look, everyone knows they could have done a full FBI investigation, et cetera, et cetera. But I think what really happened here in those process is -- and let's just -- let's just be honest about it, right? Kavanaugh was having a really tough time. And then -- and I think there were Republicans who had a tough time with Kavanaugh.

And then Donald Trump decided to make this a culture war like he makes almost everything a culture war. And he decided to attack Dr. Ford. And once he -- he made this a zero sum game.

CABRERA: It worked.

TANDEN: And let me tell you how it works and how it always works with him. It whips up the Republican base. It makes it impossible for Republicans to defy him. But the question is, with this and other things, does it create a bigger counter pressure in the country?

And my answer to that and my firm belief is that Donald Trump's actions and there were actions of the Republicans in congress to jam this through, to have basically essentially a party line vote for a Supreme Court justice, is going to create -- is creating, has created, even over the last 24 hours, incredible anger in the country. And it's creating people -- it's actually bringing more people to the polls and more women will vote than were even planning to vote last week, the week before.

CABRERA: Activism can be good for the entire country, ladies. I have to leave it there. Thank you for the discussion. These are tough times for this country.

MCBRIDE: Brett Kavanaugh never denigrated Dr. Blasey Ford.

CABRERA: OK. Thank you, Anita McBride, Jackie Kucinich, and Neera Tanden. I appreciate it.

In Chicago now, I want to tell you about a police officer found guilty there of second-degree murder for killing this black teenager. We'll break down the verdict, next.


[20:35:33] CABRERA: Guilty of second-degree murder. That is the jury's verdict in the trial of Chicago police officer, Jason Van Dyke. In 2014, Van Dyke shot and killed 17-year-old Laquan McDonald. Jurors say they felt Van Dyke's testimony was not credible. They felt he seemed rehearsed.

CNN's Ryan Young has more.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We the jury, find the defendant Jason Van Dyke guilty of second-degree murder.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Nearly four years after the shooting of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald, a jury found Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke guilty of second-degree murder and 16 counts of aggravated battery on Friday.

The verdict marking a culmination to the racially-charged case that became emblematic of decades of tension between Chicago's urban communities and the city's police force.

The shooting was captured on a grainy police dash cam video with no audio. Van Dyke told investigators he fired in self-defense after McDonald lunged at him with the knife. The video shows Van Dyke shooting McDonald 16 times. None of the other officers at the scene fire their weapons. It wasn't until 13 months after the incident that a judge ordered the city to release the video.

CROWD: Sixteen shots and cover-up.

YOUNG: The video ignited protest, a justice department civil rights investigation, criticism of the city's mayor and eventually the ouster of the police superintendent.


YOUNG: In an unusual move Tuesday, Van Dyke took the witness stand in his own defense.

VAN DYKE: His face had no expression. His eyes were just bugging out of his head. He had just these huge white eyes, just staring right through me.

YOUNG: At times becoming visibly emotional as he alleged the 17-year- old ignored repeated commands to drop his knife before the officer opened fire.

VAN DYKE: He waved the knife from his lower right side upwards across his body towards my left shoulder.

YOUNG: Prosecutors sparred with Van Dyke over discrepancies in his testimony, that the teenager raised his knife towards officers, which could not be seen in the dash cam video.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you ever seen Laquan McDonald do that on one of those videos?

VAN DYKE: The video doesn't show my perspective.

YOUNG: Van Dyke's lawyer says he was not surprised by the verdict and plans to appeal.

DANIEL HERBERT, JASON VAN DYKE'S LAWYER: If police officers think that they can never fire against somebody that is acting the way Laquan McDonald did when they're 12 feet away from them, I think that what we are going to have is police officers are going to become security guards.

[20:40:10] YOUNG: But for Laquan McDonald's family, they hope this verdict will finally help bring them some closure.

REV. MARVIN HUNTER, LAQUAN MCDONALD'S GREAT UNCLE: This trial today did two things again. It gave us justice of which we seek and it also set a precedent across this country.

YOUNG: Van Dyke faces a maximum of 20 years in prison for second- degree murder and six to 30 years for each of the 16 aggravated battery convictions. He is scheduled back in court October 31st.

Ryan Young, CNN, Chicago.


CABRERA: Overseas, Indonesia's devastating earthquake and tsunami more than one week ago, is now blamed for more than 1,600 deaths. Coming up, we'll hear from survivors who aren't giving up hope of finding their loved ones.


[20:45:14] CABRERA: New tonight, the death toll from Indonesia's earthquake and tsunami now topping more than 1,600. Last week's catastrophe devoured homes and buildings in an instant. Some families are still clinging to slim hopes that their loved ones will be found alive. Here is CNN's Matt Rivers.


MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's a particular agony, waiting for news you need to know but dread getting. Twenty or so people, all strangers, man this vigil outside the Mercure Hotel on Palu's ruined coastline. Their common causes lie in rubble. Each had someone they love buried when the hotel collapsed.

"We just really want my daughter to be found," says Martinus Hamaele." "My hope is to find her as fast as we can."

Hamaele got to the hotel just after it went down. He was determined to get to 20-year-old Marianne (ph) who worked inside. "We entered the hotel again and again, shouting, Marianne, Marianne, where are you? It's us."

So despite aftershocks threatening to crumble what was left, he kept going in with his son Frets, and they found six people, pulled each one out and saved each life. But no Marianne.

"I'm so sad," he says, "Because when we got here, me and my dad were able to save a couple of people. Why couldn't we help my little sister?"

That's up to the professionals now, including a French team we watched take special sound-detecting equipment inside.

It's nearly a week since the collapse and families like these are facing hard truths. And that hard truth is that Marianne is probably dead.

"It's probably impossible she's still alive but we never stop hoping," he says." At the least we can get her body and if God grants our hope, then she is still alive."

But that's just one family's story. When the tsunami rolled in and destroyed entire communities like the one that was here, it created tragedy on a massive scale. And a full six days after that event, many people still don't have basic services like electricity, food, water, or shelter.

And that breeds desperation. At the Palu airport, tear-stained evacuees gathered at a tarmac gate, freedom from an unlivable place lies just beyond. There's only so many seats on the plane. Some make it through. Some don't. This family got separated. The grandmother made sure the soldiers knew.

Eventually, they're together again and it's a rush to the plane to make sure it stays that way. All around, there's anger and frustration. And everyone is just exhausted.

The military says it's flying as many flights as it can. These people will wait for the next one.

Far from the airport, sailors brought aid to remote places on the island where help hasn't reached yet. Villagers meet them on the water. They're loud and demanding, feeling the pain and frustration of going a week without a real meal.

The ship then heads back to port where 250 evacuees are about to sail 500 miles south to another town. The destination matters little as long as it's anywhere but here.

By ship or plane, though, they can leave, because nothing holds them here. Back along the coastline, at the hotel, that's not an option. Families here know the likely hard truth. They're not naive. They know the odds. But giving up? No. No way.

Matt Rivers, CNN, Palu, Indonesia.


CABRERA: We have a sad update, CNN has learned Marianne, the woman Matt profiled in his report, has been found dead.

Staying overseas. First Lady Melania Trump wrapped up her first solo overseas trip and she had a lot to say about Brett Kavanagh Supreme Court confirmation process, his accusers, her husband's tweet. You hear from her, next.


[20:50:44] First Lady Melania Trump speaking out on the Brett Kavanaugh controversy during her first solo trip overseas. She wrapped up her first trip to Africa today with a tour of the pyramids in Egypt.

Mrs. Trump told reporters she doesn't always see eye to eye with her husband. And when asked about Kavanaugh specifically, she said this.


MELANIA TRUMP, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: I think he's highly qualified for the Supreme Court. I'm glad that Dr. Ford was heard. I'm glad that Judge Kavanaugh was heard. FBI investigation was done. It's completed. And Senate voted.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you believe Christine Ford?

TRUMP: I will move from that. And I think the old victims, they need -- we need to have all the victims no matter what kind of abuse they had.


CABRERA: The first lady saw four countries in five days including Ghana, Malawi, Kenya, and Egypt.

Well, the world's most famous synonymous street artist has just pulled off his most audacious prank to date.

One of his more iconic works known as "Girl with Balloon" sold for $1.4 million at an auction house in London. And the moment that gavel hit, to make it a done deal, a big surprise.

[20:55:01] As you can see, the piece self-destructed, shredding itself out of the frame.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) The gavel hit. The painting shredded. And after that happened, the art director said, "We just got Bansky." A short time ago that street artist posted an Instagram quote, saying, "The urge to destroy is also a creative urge." Phrase borrowed from Picasso. How about that?

Thank you for watching. I'm Ana Cabrera in Washington. What day for this nation. Take a break from reality for a moment. "ANTHONY BOURDAIN: PARTS UNKNOWN" is next.