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Massive Manhunt for Serial Bomber Targeting Trump Critics; NYPD Investigating Suspicious Package in Tribeca. Aired 6-6:30a ET

Aired October 25, 2018 - 06:00   ET

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. This is NEW DAY. It is Thursday, October 25, 6 a.m. here in New York. And we are here.

[05:59:33] We have breaking news on a nationwide search for a serial bomber, a domestic terrorist, someone who wanted to perhaps kill, or at least silence, or at least scare a number of people with one thing in common. As "The Washington Post" puts it, "targets of Trump's words become targets of bombs."

As you know, one of the bombs was sent here to CNN, and if the goal was to silence or scare us. I'm happy to report this morning it did not work. We are here with you live to deliver the news and the facts. So here they are.

There is a nationwide manhunt this morning and a search for more pipe bombs that may have been sent. We know of at least seven so far. Law enforcement officials tell us they are trying to locate a suspicious package sent to former vice president Joe Biden. The other bombs went to billionaire Democratic donor George Soros; former secretary of state Hillary Clinton; former president Barack Obama; California Congresswoman Maxine Waters; ex-CIA director John Brennan; and former DNC chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She received an explosive device that was intended for former attorney general Holder.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: The president went to a political rally overnight. He pledged to find whoever sent these bombs. He called for unity, and then he blamed the victims.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Any acts or threats of political violence are an attack on our democracy itself. No nation can succeed that tolerates violence or the threat of violence as a method of political intimidation, coercion or control.

The media also has a responsibility to set a civil tone and to stop the endless hostility and constant negative and oftentimes false attacks and stories. Have to do it. Have to do it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BERMAN: So we'll get to the president's speech shortly. The unity, the irony and the contradictions. We will get to how much responsibility for the poisonous rhetoric the president accepted himself. In a word, none.

But first, what the person or persons who sent the bombs might have wanted to keep from you: the news.

So let's begin our coverage with CNN anchor and national security correspondent, Jim Sciutto, who was on the air with Poppy Harlow when our New York offices were evacuated yesterday.

Jim, terrific job doing the work, as always.

JIM SCIUTTO CNN ANCHOR/NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Listen, the president just said last night false stories, the media -- no? We work damn hard to get the facts straight, and we had a whole team behind us and all around us yesterday. And that was a demonstration of what they tried to do every day.

Just that point there. On the investigation today, the focus very much, there are more packages out there, because this -- remember, this has developed over 24, 48, 72 hours. You had a package sent on Monday. You had more sent yesterday. And law enforcement here, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force focused on finding the person who sent the packages, with attention to the possibility there could be others out there. So a massive manhunt under way.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK): This is political terrorism. This is American terrorism. This is red versus blue terrorism.

SCIUTTO (voice-over): This morning an intense manhunt is under way for the person or persons who sent at least seven explosives over the past three days, targeting two former presidents, a sitting congresswoman, a Democratic donor, a number of former high-profile government officials, and CNN. All of whom have been vilified by President Trump.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hillary is a very dishonest person.

I think Brennan's a very bad guy.

And, of course, the legendary low-I.Q. Maxine Waters.

SCIUTTO: Postal inspectors are now trying to track down an additional suspicious package sent to former vice president Joe Biden, which authorities believe is now in Florida after being misaddressed and returned to sender.

On Wednesday night, a second bomb, intended for Congresswoman Maxine Waters's office in Los Angeles, was intercepted at a central mail facility.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have to operate under the assumption that there are more out there.

SCIUTTO: Authorities say some of the pipe bombs were sent by first- class mail. All of the packages similar in appearance, all in manila envelopes with six stamps and bearing the return address of former DNC chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz's Florida office.

A law enforcement official tells CNN that at least one of the pipe bombs had broken glass as shrapnel. A source says that this device, sent to CNN, contained suspected white pyrotechnic powder. The package sent to CNN was addressed to the former CIA director, John Brennan, his name misspelled. Brennan is an NBC News contributor.

JOHN BRENNAN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: I think we're at a very fortunate stage of our national history.

SCIUTTO: That package was discovered in the mail room at CNN's New York headquarters around 10 a.m. Tuesday morning.

(on camera): Excuse me. That sounds like a fire alarm here. We'll keep you posted on that.

(voice-over): Poppy Harlow and I were covering the bomb sent to the Clintons when we were interrupted by fire alarms.

(on camera): We're going to find out what the latest is here --

POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: We'll be right back.

SCIUTTO: -- at CNN. We're going to be right back.

(voice-over): Our New York offices quickly evacuated, police mobilizing to protect the public.

HARLOW: We are outside safely. All of our CNN colleagues that we know of are outside right now. Everyone is safe, as we can see.

[06:05:03] SCIUTTO: The entire street was blocked off before members of the bomb squad entered CNN's mail room to safely remove the device.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CAMEROTA: Jim, stay with us if you would. Thank you for all that background. Let's bring in CNN crime and justice reporter, Shimon Prokupecz, who also swung into action yesterday, seamlessly; and retired FBI supervisor, special agent James Gagliano, a CNN law enforcement analyst.

James, so what -- it seems to me, as a layman, that police must have all sorts of evidence. There are six different packages and there must be DNA. Maybe somebody delivered it. They will figure out where they mailed it from. What do police do this morning?

JAMES GAGLIANO, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Alisyn, police scientists have come so far in the last couple of decades.

Think back to the FBI's most costly investigation of all time. It was the Unabomber investigation, 1978 to 1995, 17 years of terror. It took a long time and a lot of money. The forensic tools, the harvesting of evidence that we have nowadays,

the fact that we have such a huge digital imprint; the fact that, firstly, no one was hurt yesterday, which we're ecstatic about.

But secondly, we have unexploded devices that are going to be a treasure trove of information. The FBI and the NYPD, as well as the postal inspectors, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, they are fanning out. They are looking at all the surveillance-camera video, all of the digital footprint or the and asking and talking and asking the right questions of folks involved in this.

I'm going to give this a few days, but I think with the amount of evidence that they have, that they're going to close in on this person or people that did this very shortly.

BERMAN: All right, Shimon. Where are they, the bombs, what do you know?

PROKUPECZ: I don't know if they are going to close in on this person as quickly as we all would like to. I think, as of last night, let's be honest, the FBI, the NYPD, they're not telling us a lot about, in terms of where they stand in terms of locating this person.

But you can tell by -- because the FBI put out some of these photos of these envelopes, the NYPD has put it out. Other law enforcement agencies have, but they have no idea right now who is behind this. Because if they did know, they wouldn't need the public's help, and they work this and withhold evidence and information from the public, as they work this investigation.

So I think it's fair to say that from everything we know right now, they are not any closer to figuring out who's behind this. Yes, they do have a lot of evidence. The fact that they have several of these bombs that are intact. They can pull maybe fingerprints off this, DNA evidence. So we'll see today. We may learn more. But I think right now it's safe to say this manhunt is still ongoing and have no idea who did it.

BERMAN: There's a would-be a serial bomber on the loose?

PROKUPECZ: Absolutely, and this is a major concern for the FBI, for law enforcement all across this country. We don't know where this person is.

And you know, when I spoke to someone last night, they said to me, "Look, we'll wake up in the morning and we'll see." There could be more because the mail comes in the morning, in the mail; someone drops of. So we could see more of this today.

SCIUTTO: A disadvantage here, right, is this was a long-distance attack, right? It was sent through the mail.

And I was thinking of the Chelsea bombing two years ago here in New York. An advantage there it was a physical drop, and you could examine CCTV footage in the area. You built a picture. You find a line of attack, and that's -- that's how within days they were able to find that suspect there.

CAMEROTA: But wasn't there a physical drop here at CNN? Because that was some of the reporting.

PROKUPECZ: So, yes. So there's some confusion about this, that -- that what may have happened here is that this may have gone through the mail to this courier service, which works with the postal services, and then that's how it got here. So it didn't come directly from the postal services. It wasn't like the mail carrier dropped it off. It could have come from this courier, and then the courier dropped it off.

So basically, the idea that perhaps, maybe this person who's behind this went to the courier, and that's how this came here. That may not be so. It may have gone -- all of this may have been going through the mail.

CAMEROTA: It may not have been a direct link, James.

GAGLIANO: It feels like 100 years ago. Seven months ago, we were undergoing the Austin serial bombing case. That case took 18 days. And again, it was the digital footprint. It was the fact that this person went into a FedEx facility, and we were able to track him down through photographic evidence.

I imagine with the manhunt that's currently ongoing and, to Shimon's point, I agree. We're not out of the woods in the sense that there may be other packages out there that are yet to be discovered.

BERMAN: Here's the key, Shimon, and I know you've done more work on this and, Jim if you have, too, pipe in here.

What do we know about these bombs? Are -- were they bombs that could explode? Were there explosives in them? Because if the answer to that is yes, this was attempted murder of two former presidents, a sitting member of Congress, a former attorney general, a former CIA director, and perhaps a lot of people in this very building. That's an attempted mass killing and decapitating of an entire political class.

PROKUPECZ: Yes, I think last night, we were describing it as best, these were assassination attempts, right?

Yes, I mean, these were bombs. Whether or not they could have actually gone off, that's a great question; and we don't have enough details on the devices themselves to know, was there some kind of a triggering method? Was there a timing method? Was there some other method by which this was supposed to go off? It doesn't appear right now that that is the case.

[06:1010] However, keep in mind what the NYPD commissioner said. These were live bombs, right? And as far as the bomb squad is concerned, as far as the FBI is concerned, whether they could have gone off accidentally, whether they could have gone off intentionally, whether there was a trigger method doesn't matter. The point is, this was a bomb. This was meant to hurt someone. Why it didn't go off? Probably lucky.

SCIUTTO: It was not by definition a letter bomb, right? Because a letter bomb is designed, you open it up and the thing goes boom. That's that, as the FBI and others have made clear, your police department from the beginning. It was a capable device. It was a functional device that had a detonator, had explosives, et cetera. So --

CAMEROTA: But it would have had to have had a trigger of some kind to ignite it?

SCIUTTO: It appears. It appears.

CAMEROTA: So James, one of the complicating factors is, of course, now copycat possibilities. We're hearing just now in our ear that the NYPD has just confirmed to CNN that they are investigating a suspicious package in Tribeca. That's an area, an neighborhood here in Manhattan. You know, this is -- to be expected, right? Now I mean, I can only imagine the double duty all of the detectives and investigators at the NYPD are going to have to do in terms of packages.

GAGLIANO: We cherish our civil liberties and the privileges we have in an open society. But unfortunately, an open society, Alisyn, people have access to things. We can't burn books. We can't burn "The Anarchist Cookbook," which was written in 1971, and all the open- source information is out there that somebody who's unhinged can quickly go to.

Now, one of the things about this bomb that was so interesting was it almost looked like a caricature of a bomb, like somebody was trying to put it together in such a coarse and rudimentary fashion that it would scream, "There's something wrong here."

CAMEROTA: And what does that tell you?

GAGLIANO: Well, it tells me one of two things. Either someone was doing that purposefully, just to send a message. Like, they didn't have all the components, or they didn't know how to rig it, because a bomb needs four things. A power supply, an initiator, the actual explosives themselves, and a switch. And oftentimes, one or two of those things are either hard to procure or hard to connect together.

BERMAN: Hang on, guys, for one second. We're looking at live pictures now. This is above Greenwich and Franklin in Tribeca, where we have confirmed the police are looking into a suspicious object there.

Shimon, in the last few seconds, you've been working your sources and --?

PROKUPECZ: Yes, so you know, we're working through this now, but there is concern here, again, that this may be related. So I think we're going to hold off there for now, but I think being told that there was some concern here with this, they're obviously treating it just the same way they treated what -- what went on in our building, and they're looking at this.

CAMEROTA: Have they told you who the target is?

PROKUPECZ: We don't know who the target is here, so once we get done here -- but we should probably be concerned about this at this point.

BERMAN: Real. Sounding -- but Shimon, your sources are telling you pay attention to what you're looking at the screen right now.

PROKUPECZ: Yes, this is sounding like there's some concern here at the NYPD.

CAMEROTA: And keep in mind that that's exactly what we heard yesterday from law enforcement here in New York and the FBI, was that they were concerned there would -- there would be follow-on -- or the possibility, at least, of follow-up attempts.

BERMAN: And James, I've got to ask you, because the targets here all have one thing in common. These are all people or entities that the president has criticized directly by name. And in turn, many of them are folks who have criticized the president.

So there appears to be political connection here, from an investigatory standpoint, how do you look into that? The Facebook posts, groups. Is that the type of thing?

And also, based on what you know about people who carry out these crimes. Can they be influenced by rhetoric?

GAGLIANO: John, I certainly think so. That's -- that's certainly a question for the -- for the politicos to delve into.

But I can tell you, from the perspective of the FBI and other law enforcement, none of them are looking at this from the perspective of we're on the side of the red or on the side of the blue. The reason we're looking at this from the perspective of motive, because people always chide me about that, "Well, that's not important." Well, motive is important, because if you can -- if you can find out the causality, why somebody would possibly do this, you can get in front of the next one to hopefully prevent the next one.

So absolutely, motive here is important. The FBI is going to divide this, as they've always done: cut terrorism into two aspects, international terrorism and domestic terrorism. We don't, from what I've heard yet, had any indication yet which it is. Is this a violent extremist group here that was home grown? Is this somebody who was inspired and directed from overseas? All those things are being fleshed out, and I'm certain that once they get an answer on that, we're going to know soon enough.

CAMEROTA: What are you seeing?

PROKUPECZ: That is that same truck. That was outside our building yesterday.

SCIUTTO: The containment vessel.

PROKUPECZ: So this is the real deal here. You only see that truck --

SCIUTTO: Yes.

PROKUPECZ: -- from the NYPD when they actually think they have a live device, something that could explode. And obviously, that's the concern here. That is exactly the truck they used yesterday.

SCIUTTO: It's the same containment vessel. They bring it there to transport safely an explosive device away, and that's exactly what carried the explosive device away from CNN yesterday, yesterday morning. This means the NYPD is taking this very seriously.

[06:15:03] BERMAN: This is across the street from the borough of Manhattan Community College, which is a place that many people remember, because it was somewhere people ran on September 11, just geographically. I want to give people a sense there.

And Shimon and Jim, I want you -- you guys have permission to do all the reporting you need to do. So look at your phones. Call on your phones while we're here, because this is an ongoing situation.

There's that truck, which contains the explosive devices. It's designed to go and retrieve in place explosive devices, on the scene there in Tribeca. You're looking at this live operation at this moment.

And Shimon and Jim, just moments ago, mentioned that one of the biggest fears overnight into this morning is that there are more bombs out there. There is a serial bomber on the loose this morning, and there could be more bombs out there.

CAMEROTA: I mean, James, it is also possible that, although the postal service did a phenomenal job of finding all of these packages, before they -- some before they reached their intended target. They haven't gone through every bit of mail in the United States.

GAGLIANO: There's a couple things that people need to be aware of, and obviously, it's good that we put the picture out yesterday of what the package that was delivered to CNN looked like. But there a couple of things that bombers, or these type of bombers, typically are guilty of, when they're putting together a package.

One is a potential oily residue on the package, excessive postage. You know, and in this case, it was the exact same postage on each of the packages. Again, that's link analysis --

CAMEROTA: They don't want to have to go into the -- sorry, they don't want to have to go into the post office to weigh it, right?

GAGLIANO: So the follow up question would be, why would they put excessive postage on there? They don't want the package returned. They want it to reach its intended target. They'll type out the exact same misspelled words. There's things that, on the link analysis perspective, are going to help the investigators. But most importantly, we want people to see something that has

excessive tape, "Do not X-ray" stamped on it, or fragile. Those are typical things that bombers will typically do. So the people look and say, "Well, I can't drop this." You don't want it to prematurely detonate. And second of all, we don't want to get it X-rayed. Because X-rays today can tell you if those four components are in the package.

BERMAN: All right. That's very interesting. Another thing we saw, and again, to that bomb that was addressed to John Brennan. One, it's misspelled and also misdirected. If the goal was to the former CIA director at the company where he is an analyst, it would be NBC. He doesn't work here at CNN.

What does it tell you, that whoever sent this didn't know how to spell his name, misspelled it and maybe didn't know exactly where he worked?

GAGLIANO: All right. We understood that Mr. Brennan at the time was engaged in a Twitter battle back and forth with the president and just didn't -- didn't know exactly where to send it.

These are all clues. And again, John, it looks back to police are working on human intelligence and signal intelligence. In Manhattan alone, there are some, I think, 13,000 cameras, between private businesses and the ones that the NYPD has put up on bridges and tunnels and public housing areas and down in the subways. Somebody will have seen something, and on the signal intelligence side, they are going to put together a pattern; and we're going to learn a lot about this much sooner than later.

CAMEROTA: Just to tell viewers what's happening right now on the other half of your screen, and the NYPD is responding to a suspicious package they received -- this was received at a nonresidential building. This is Greenwich Street in New York. This is the Tribeca area. It is unclear to us at the moment if this package is quite similar in nature to the one received at CNN yesterday and elsewhere.

The NYPD bomb squad is on the scene as we've been talking about, if we pull out to that wide shot. You can see the containment vehicle that was parked in front of our headquarters yesterday in order to receive this suspicious package in the safest way possible.

The Tribeca Film Fest -- Film Center is located at this address. We have no idea who the recipient or the target of this one was, but Shimon Prokupecz is working his sources right now. In fact, he's on the phone. What do you have, Shimon?

PROKUPECZ: So it sounds like, obviously, a real concern here. We're seeing that containment truck there. There are similarities, I'm being told, to what we've been dealing with. I've now talked to two law enforcement officials who say there are similarities, which is why we're seeing the response that we're seeing from the NYPD.

BERMAN: Similarities in the device itself?

PROKUPECZ: The packaging, which is very key here. Some of the material that's in the packaging. And other information, basically, which indicates to the NYPD that this could be related to what we've been seeing. Obviously, the biggest fear that this was going to happen, that they were going to find another one overnight as we've been saying. Interestingly enough, that is where Robert De Niro's offices are, the Tribeca Productions.

SCIUTTO: It's actually a restaurant, the Tribeca Grill on 75 Greenwich Street. Again, police are not confirming that the target is where it was received, but that address matches up with a restaurant, I believe, by Robert De Niro. Of course, Robert De Niro has directed criticism of the president publicly.

BERMAN: We don't know exactly, if this is a mail package, who it was addressed to, though, at this point. That would be key, correct?

SCIUTTO: Absolutely. Well, again, as we've been talking for the last 24 hours, as they look to identify who's behind these packages. You profile them. First of all, you look at the device. Is it similar? Who could make this kind of advice -- kind of device? But you also look at the pattern of targets which gets to motivation. And of course, this long list of targets has included critics of the president of people who have been targets -- targets of the president's criticism.

GAGLIANO: And they're taking it seriously enough to bring one of those containment units up there to transport this, probably up to Rodman's Neck (ph) in the Bronx, where if need be, there will be a controlled detonation where they take a shape charge, they set it and they want to separate the initiator from the actual explosive itself.

Here are three things that make bombs so terrifying and so deadly. The first thing is the over pressure. That's what kills people. The fact that soft tissue happens when the explosion takes place.

The second thing is the shrapnel, and we know from the devices that we've already seen there were PVC pipes, and generally those instances, the package itself is not the shrapnel like the cast-iron rod would be. So they pack it up with nails.

CAMEROTA: Don't give too many how-tos.

GAGLIANO: No. And then lastly is the thermal effect, the fact that a lot of times in these instances, there's a fire, and somebody can get burned. They can get hurt that way. Three things, that's why they're taking this very seriously. And that's why they use vehicles like that and containment vehicles like that to move that bomb safely.

CAMEROTA: Right. I mean, I'm glad you're pointing all this out, James, because obviously, the police's lives are always in danger. I felt that way so strongly when we had to evacuate the building. And I saw all of the police standing out front of our building, ushering us out, getting us to safety. And they were in harm's way.

GAGLIANO: The run to the sound of the guns. That's how they're trained. BERMAN: I want to make one point. And one of the reasons I like you so much is we point out we don't want to give too many details of the bombs, but I do think it's important what James was saying without telling people how to do it or what substance they used.

There appears to have been, in some of these devices, shrapnel or the types of things that you put in a device to wound, to maim, to injure, which gives you a sense of what the design was, what the motive was, what the person was trying to do.

But it is important to know that, as there is this ongoing manhunt, as there is this ongoing developing situation. Again, what you're looking at on the screen, breaking news in Lower Manhattan in Tribeca, what appears to be a real situation, a suspicious device there. Law enforcement authorities telling CNN's Shimon Prokupecz and Jim Sciutto, sitting on the set, doing their reporting right now. This is being treated as a real situation with similarities to what we saw yesterday. We'll have the very latest for you right after the break.

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[06:26:05] ANNOUNCER: This is CNN breaking news.

BERMAN: All right. We have breaking news. Want to show you live pictures of Lower Manhattan. This is the Tribeca neighborhood, the intersection of Greenwich and Franklin, what appears to be a package with similarities to the bombs sent yesterday. Law enforcement treating this as yet another potential explosive sent to a building. This, again, in Lower Manhattan.

We have some new details coming in right now. Shimon Prokupecz, Jim Sciutto on the set with us. They've been working their sources.

Shimon, you go first. What do you know?

PROKUPECZ: So there are similarities. Police there have been there for the past hour, hour and a half or so. What we are being told, both Jim and I, is that there are similarities in the -- in what police have been dealing with in the other packages, the stamping. There are stamps on there similar to some of the stamps that we've seen in other packaging. The --

CAMEROTA: Same return address?

PROKUPECZ: Same return address, I'm being told by two sources.

CAMEROTA: Debbie Wasserman Schultz's office.

PROKUPECZ: That's correct. Everything that I'm being told indicates that this is similar to what law enforcement has been dealing with in the last three days. So this is very serious. This is exactly what law enforcement was concerned about. They suspected, they expected that they would be dealing with more of this this morning. And here we are, another situation which, obviously, has everyone concerned, parts of Lower Manhattan now closed because of this. SCIUTTO: A similar reaction to yesterday. In fact, the exact same

reaction. Bomb squad, containment vessel, et cetera. We're being told the same thing, similarities between the packages that have sent -- been sent prior.

Of course, they won't know the full details until they open it up, right? To see if it's the same device, what are the specifics of that device. But we're talking about the exterior similarities. And they are therefore treating it as an equally dangerous device of the one we received here yesterday and other public officials have received.

CAMEROTA: James, there's a serial bomber on the loose. We knew that before this. But obviously, this is what police are contending with. There's domestic terrorism happening before our eyes this morning, and I can only imagine what your folks in law enforcement are having to -- the net they're having to cast this morning.

GAGLIANO: What comforts me is that the best folks in the business are on this. It is 35,000 police officers. They have one of the best counterterrorism units in the country.

The FBI is on this. These devices are being disassembles and looked at down at Quantico. We have our best forensic scientists on it.

The thing that makes package bombs like this so unnerving is this. Bombs are not precision weapons. They are indiscriminate. So along the path, look, we don't want it to end up where they're supposed to be the intended victim or the intended target.

But along the way, the people in the mail room here at CNN, the police officers and what folks that are responding to these, going towards the sound of the guns to protect us. Those bombs are -- they're indiscriminate. And when they're as shoddily constructed as these appear to be, it makes it even more dangerous.

BERMAN: All right. Let's just put up, if we have, a map for you of where the seven bombs yesterday all went. This would be an eighth. The one you're looking at right now, live pictures from Lower Manhattan, from Greenwich, would be an eighth. I say Greenwich Ave. in Lower Manhattan, would be an eighth bomb. Seven that have been delivered already.

CAMEROTA: Went to former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua; George Soros, huge Democratic donor, in Katonah, New York; Barack Obama's home, Washington, D.C.; Maxine Waters's office, I believe, in Capitol Heights, Maryland; Maxine Waters's home in Los Angeles -- or a different office in Los Angeles, California. Eric Holder's didn't get delivered, because it had the wrong address, and went back to Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz' office. And then there was one addressed to John Brennan, which came to our offices, our headquarters here at CNN.

BERMAN: And then we're putting up on screen right now live pictures of what would be and appears to be an eighth. Shimon Prokupecz right now waving at me, because you have something?

PROKUPECZ: Yes. Here's what I'm being told. The package, exactly the same that we've seen in other -- in other packages.