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Temporary Restraining Order, A US Federal Judge Issues A Legal Setback To Donald Trump's Immigration Policy; Sold On Facebook, Outrage Grows Over The Online Auction Of A Child Bride In South Sudan; Down Fall Of A Giant, How Nissan Plans To Move Forward After The Arrest Of Chairman Carlos Ghosn; US President Trump is due to receive the CIA's final report on the murder of "Washington Post" journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the coming hours; The leader of Yemen's Houthi rebels has dismissed a draft UN Security Council Resolution As Disappointing, But Has Expressed Support For Peace Talks; Airbnb Will No Longer Advertise Rental Listings Of Israeli Settlements In The West Bank; Malaysia's Prime Minister In Waiting Anwar Ibrahim Says He Wants To Take Goldman Sachs To Court In Every Country Possible; Seven years ago, a former Google employee left his job to start his own electronics employee country called Anker. Aired: 8-9a ET
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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST, NEWS STREAM: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to "News Stream." Temporary restraining order, a US Federal Judge
issues a legal setback to Donald Trump's immigration policy. Sold on Facebook, outrage grows over the online auction of a child bride in South
Sudan. And down fall of a giant, how Nissan plans to move forward after the arrest of Chairman Carlos Ghosn.
US President Donald Trump's hard line stance on immigration is hitting a bit of a road block courtesy of a US Federal judge. Just a few hours ago,
the judge issued a temporary restraining order blocking the President's asylum restrictions of immigrants who illegally cross the US border with
Mexico. Mr. Trump's ban was issued earlier this month as he railed against a so-called migrant caravan that he claimed without evidence included
criminals.
And at a court hearing, the US Justice Department argued that the President has the right to suspend entry by individuals in the US if he thinks it's
in the nation's interests. But the judge disagreed, ruling that, quote, "Whatever the scope of the President's authority, he may not rewrite the
immigration laws to impose a condition that Congress has expressly forbidden." All of it comes as CNN has learned that President Trump is
expected to give new authority to his troops to protect border personnel if they are attacked by migrants. That's according to Defense Department
officials.
Nearly 6,000 troops are stationed in the region, but they cannot currently assist unless Border Patrol needs to act in self-defense. But the order
will authorize the protection of Federal property. Let's get right to the White House, it's where we find CNN's Joe Johns. And Joe, this ban, how
big a political setback is this for Donald Trump?
JOE JOHNS, SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, Kristie, this is a temporary, temporary restraining order. It's only supposed to late until
December 19th or until the judge issues another order. But important to say that a judge can't put a temporary restraining order in place unless he
believes the people bringing the motion are likely to eventually succeed on the merits of the case and the people who have brought this motion are
immigration groups. So that's very important to say.
The judge made it clear in his view that the administration was trying to rewrite the immigration laws passed by the United States Congress and that
a President cannot do that. But I think if you dig just a little bit deeper, you also have to note that much of this has been done because of
the concern about that caravan headed toward the United States' southern border and what we're told so far is the people are beginning to converge
around Tijuana, Mexico, which is a legal port of entry.
The administration's rule applies to people trying to enter the United States illegally. All of that points to the fact that most of the
reporting seems to be consistent. This is a peaceful group and not trying to essentially break the laws, an invading horde attempting to enter the
country as the President seems to have falsely claimed.
The question of course is whether it all turns out to be a fizzle because so many people here in Washington, DC of course suspect much of this was
politically motivated anyway, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, the migrant caravan was a huge rallying cry for Donald Trump before the midterms. You know, since then, it's gone kind of quiet
for the last two weeks, but after this judge's decision and the ban, it's come up to the surface again, so should we expect President Trump to swing
even harder on the issue?
JOHNS: Well, you know immigration has been the President's signature issue since the very day he got into the campaign running for President of the
United States. We don't expect him to drop that issue, however, it's pretty clear from this judge's ruling and even from what some military
officials have said on and off the record, there are limits to what United States military can do in a situation like this more likely, the
administration will continue to press in the courts once they get a final ruling from this judge out on the West Coast and perhaps even try to push
to the Supreme Court to get a favorable ruling for the President as he continues to push his tough hard line immigration policies.
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LU STOUT: Joe Johns, reporting live from the White House, thank you.
Now, it did become a rallying cry for Donald Trump during his 2016 presidential campaign. Remember when he repeatedly said this about his
rival, Hillary Clinton.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thirty-000 missing e-mails. Think of it, 33,000.
She should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with e-mails.
She doesn't even remember whether or not she was instructed on how to use e-mails. Were you instructed on how to use it? I can't remember.
Hillary Clinton can't keep her e-mail safe, and you know what, folks? She sure as hell can't keep our country safe.
She deleted the e-mails. She has to go to jail.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: And you heard those "lock her up" chants. Yes, by the way, they continue to this day, so for all that talk about the e-mails, you probably
think that e-mails would be the last issue for anyone in this administration, but you would be wrong.
For much of the last year, Ivanka Trump, the President's daughter and top adviser used her personal e-mail to discuss and relay official White House
business. That's according to a nonpartisan watchdog group which released the documents, but when it comes to any claims of hypocrisy or comparisons
to Clinton, an attorney for Ivanka Trump is firing back saying in part this, quote, "She did not create a private server in her house or office.
There was never classified information transmitted. The account was never transferred or housed at Trump Organization and no e-mails were ever
deleted," end quote. For its part, the White House had no comment on Ms. Trump's e-mail use.
Now, US President Trump is due to receive the CIA's final report on the murder of "Washington Post" journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the coming hours.
The agency's initial assessment was that Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman personally ordered the killing at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
A high ranking Republican tells CNN that Congress will respond with additional pressure on Saudi Arabia if the administration does not name the
Crown Prince as part of its sanctions.
Jomana Karadsheh is outside of the Saudi consulate for us in Istanbul. She joins us now. Jomana, will the Khashoggi report reflect what we already
know from the CIA assessment and will it sway Donald Trump?
JOMANA KARADSHEH, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, we'll have to see, Kristie. It's unclear if it's going to be enough to sway President Trump. What we
do know from that initial assessment from the CIA, as we have learned from sources over the weekend, is that the CIA concluded that the Crown Prince
Mohammed Bin Salman ordered the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, and the way they put this together is not just based this on the audio recordings,
whatever evidence they got from Turkey.
It is also based on the CIA's own assessment on their own intercepts, their own intelligence and also what we've heard from US officials for weeks now,
that something like this, an operation like this could not have taken place without the knowledge of the de facto rule of Saudi Arabia, especially that
it involved members of his inner circle.
Now, when it comes to President Trump, I think he's made his position clear. You know, over the weekend, also saying that he did not believe
that the Crown Prince was involved in this. When asked why he believes that, he said it's because Mohammed Bin Salman told him about five times
that he had nothing to do with the killing of Khashoggi, and again, he's also made it clear that for President Trump, the priority is his alliance,
his relationship with Saudi Arabia. That spectacular ally as he described the Saudis and also his business/economic interests when it come to the US
relations with Saudi Arabia.
So we'll have to wait and see what comes out of this report, whether it's enough to change the President's mind and as you mentioned earlier, US you
lawmakers have made it clear that if the administration is not going to take real action, they will.
LU STOUT: Jomana Karadsheh reporting live for us from Istanbul. Jomana, thank you.
Some much needed rain will soon bring relief to the devastating wildfires raging across Northern California. Up to 15 centimeters of wet weather is
expected later this week and should help ease the smothering heat and smoke from the flames, but the news is not good.
Experts warn that the rain may bring flooding as well as mudslides. Our CNN's Paul Vercammen is live for us in Paradise, California, and Paul, the
Campfire, it is still burning. It is still taking lives, what's the latest on effort to put it out?
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PAUL VERCAMMEN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, Kristie, they now say it's 70% contained and you talk about that rain on the way. What they are worried
about in terms of the firefighting effort is, it could make roads muddy and ashy and that could put first responders in jeopardy as they try to drive
their trucks and their vehicles, their rigs on these twisty mountain roads.
And so as I said, 70% contained, the death toll rising. Two more found dead, one inside a structure, one outside, so it's at 79. They say more
than 15,000 structures have burned, just astounding. This is both the most deadly and devastating wildfire in California history.
LU STOUT: And Paul, in addition to that horrific human toll, has this also become a growing animal crisis?
VERCAMMEN: A massive animal crisis. This is a rural county. There's a lot of commercial livestock production going on here, but there's a lot of
people who own small ranchettes and they keep a couple of horses and maybe some cows, goats, whatever.
All of a sudden, all of these animals were stranded, abandoned, wandering the streets even, at the County Fair where they were once handing out
ribbons for prize livestock, they are now trying to save their lives.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NATHAN WILKINSON, ANIMAL RESCUE VOLUNTEER: At any given time, there's up to 2,000 animals in the shelters. We've had more animals in shelter care
than people. And so it takes an army to care for these animals. People can't get their animals in a home if they don't have a home.
So the least we can do for them is care for their animals until they can take them back.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VERCAMMEN: And it was great to see in that shelter, they were helping out pet duck and so many other animals in there, doing anything to revive them.
Veterinarians volunteering doing their duty and that man that talked, Nathan Wilkinson, perhaps very well equipped to do this. He was an army
sergeant. Back to you now, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, it's wonderful to see, yes, just so heartwarming to see the outpouring of support to all victims of the fires in California. I mean,
we know that rain is in the forecast and it is needed, but is it going to lead to dangerous mudslides there in the fire zone?
VERCAMMEN: Well, one thing I do need to point out is unlike the Thomas fire and then the mudslide that ensued in California earlier this year, you
had a situation there where you go from three or four thousand feet to sea level in just a few miles. In this burn area, where I'm standing right
now, we are actually on what's called a hill, so you won't have that gravity-type flow.
Nevertheless, as we pointed out, there is a real concern that anybody who is in a canyon will be endangered and of course, the first responders, the
firefighters, the rescue crews, the people who are combing through this stuff, they are the ones that are going to have to worry about and they are
the people who have to navigate these roads and their trucks and various other rigs.
So they'll cross their fingers and they may have to just shut them down them flatly because it's getting too dangerous.
LU STOUT: Absolutely. This fire is burning the, the danger certainly not over yet. Paul Vercammen reporting live for us from the town of Paradise,
California.
Paul, you and crew, take care. Thank you very much, indeed. You're watching "News Stream," still ahead, right here in the program, once again,
Facebook's monitoring practices are under fire after a family successfully auctioned off their daughter as a child bride. What Facebook says it's
doing to stop this from happening again.
And Airbnb removes Israeli, West Bank settlement rental listings from its website dividing opinion in a divided part of the world.
[08:15:00]
LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, welcome back. This is "News Stream." Now, there is outrage and fierce condemnation of Facebook after a
family in Africa successfully used the site to auction off their teenage daughter. Plan International is a charity that works for children's rights
says five men placed bids for the child bride and some of them were high ranking government officials of South Sudan.
And by the time Facebook took down the post, it was already too late. Let's get straight out to CNN's David McKenzie who is tracking developments
from Johannesburg, and David, I mean, this is just enraging that this could take place. How was a girl sold off to a winning bidder on Facebook?
DAVID MCKENZIE, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, it's very disturbing and what it is doing is, Kristie, taking a disturbing local practice there in South
Sudan that is also prevalent in other parts of the continent and elsewhere of selling off daughters, getting a dowry, getting a payment often for
families that might be struggling financially.
But in this case, taking on a whole another level for what Plan International calls a barbaric use of technology. I want to bring you the
latest information. According to the National Alliance of Women's Lawyers there in South Sudan, they said the family itself did not put this auction
up on Facebook as it were, that it was community members that did this, didn't stop the bidding, and that according to the same lawyer that CNN
spoke to, that the mother of the child or the young woman was not happy about this but that, quote, "Her hands were tied."
And Kristie, this points to the lack of agency, the lack of power and the lack of respect women and girls have in this community. It's very
disturbing to both those who fight for women's rights and others.
Facebook, for its part, which it appears took some time to take that page down had this to say, "Any form of human trafficking whether post, pages,
ads or groups is not allowed on Facebook. We removed the post and permanently disabled the account belonging to the person who posted this on
Facebook."
Obviously with such a massively popular social network, it's extremely difficult to target every post like this, but Facebook, Kristie has been
accused in the past of not paying attention to issues of human and child trafficking on its website.
LU STOUT: Yes, Facebook is under a lot of scrutiny here. Also, the practice of child marriage in the country of South Sudan, how pervasive is
it there?
MCKENZIE: It's very prevalent. More than 50% of young girls are married before eh age of 18. That despite the fact that the law in the country is
18 and below is illegal, but it's a law just on paper and it's an issue that is pervasive in parts of Africa, Southeast Asia and elsewhere.
Groups like UNICEF, of course, Plan International say that the key here is respecting the rights of young women and girls getting them into education.
The context of South Sudan dealing with a very protracted Civil War insecurity and food insecurity all means that families sometimes face
pressure to sell off their girls, as horrible as that sounds, to try and gain some access to capital.
And so, it is always more complicated than it seems, but certainly, in this case outrage that this auction and bid for a human being took place on a
website on a social media platform that so many of us use around the world, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes. Facebook certainly has the means to stop this, right? David McKenzie, reporting live for us. Thank you. Earlier, I spoke with
the regional chief of communication for UNICEF. His name is James Elder. UNICEF says some 650 million girls and women alive today were married as
children and he explained why this is still happening and what he thinks social media and Facebook should do about it.
[08:20:07]
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JAMES ELDER, REGIONAL CHIEF OF COMMUNICATIONS, UNICEF: The dowry system is very strong in a lot of countries and it really comes strong. Marriage
comes around because of poverty, because of this whole perception that somehow they are protecting children because as we see and David mentioned
in South Sudan, really, the whole country coming unstuck because of conflict.
I think what's really important when it comes to Facebook and other social media sites is that their penetration in this part of Africa where I live
has grown exponentially in the last years, but media literacy isn't really up to par.
So it's absolutely critical that they make sure that their content is not harmful, is not hurtful, but Facebook really spend that time and have
responsibility to curb anything that is toxic. Because while the rest of the world, on as I say, where children stay, dedicate this time to how do
we empower girls? How do we make a safe place for them if we see that social media sites are able to then exacerbate these problems for girls?
Then we start going backwards, instead of using the internet and social media to expand opportunity for these kids.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: And that was James Elder there calling for social media platforms to understand the enormous responsibility that they have. The
leader of Yemen's Houthi rebels has dismissed a draft UN Security Council Resolution as disappointing, but has expressed support for peace talks.
Now, the UN Resolution drawn up by the UK calls for a ceasefire in the conflict, but the Iran-backed rebels are concerned that the resolution has
been watered down after Saudi and US pressure. CNN's Sam Kiley is in Abu Dhabi, he joins us now, and Sam, just how much progress is there to
actually achieve a truce in Yemen?
SAM KILEY, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, there is grounds for a little bit of hope, I think would be the best way to describe it because notwithstanding
the allegation made by the Houthi leadership that in the last 24 hours, the Saudi-led coalition that is attacking them notably around the port city of
Hodeida, but also around the town of Sa'adah have increased the level of attacks that they've seen recently.
There had been a brief near pause, if you like, in the fighting, but there is an allegation now that the Houthis have come under renewed attack.
Nonetheless, they are dismissive of to the content of some of this draft resolution going to the UN Security Council, but they nonetheless say that
they are trying to be committed to not only a unilateral ceasefire offering to not fire missiles and drones into Saudi Arabia or in the UAE, and
against other targets inside Yemen, but also that they want to try to get towards a peace process.
The Yemeni government on the other side has said the same thing. Meanwhile, of course, the Saudis were irritated by attempts by the United
Kingdom to establish a sort of level of equivalence between the warring factions arguing, not surprisingly, that they are in support of the
internationally recognized legitimate government in the Yemen.
Human Rights groups have been highly critical in the past of the Saudi-led coalition's air campaign. And more recently the Well Food Programme has
pointed the finger very firmly at Houthis, too, for failing to allow full humanitarian access, Kristie, in an environment in which 14 million people
are said to be threatened with starvation. And 400,000 children according to the UN Children's Fund on the brink of death by starvation.
So in that context, I think there is some glimmer of hope, but a lot of hope will be pinned on whether or not this resolution goes through. It is
nonbinding, but there is an earlier resolution that also calls on the Houthis to dial down the level of violence as a precondition for peace
talks and they do seem to be doing that, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, there is a glimmer of hope for truce in Yemen, and Yemen needs it desperately. Desperately, needs it. Sam Kiley, reporting for us.
Thank you.
Staying in the Middle East now and the decision that has divided opinion, Airbnb will no longer advertise rental listings of Israeli settlements in
the West Bank. Oren Liebermann has more.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
OREN LIEBERMANN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Kristie, Airbnb announced on Monday that it would remove listings of rentals from Israeli settlements in the
West Bank, a move hailed by Palestinians and slammed by Israelis. The decision will affect some 200 listings in the West Bank, the company said,
though Airbnb didn't specify when they would be removed.
In announcing this decision on Monday, Airbnb said, "We concluded that we should remove lists in Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank that
are at the core of the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians." PLO Secretary General Saeb Erekat called the decision to remove the listings an
initial positive step.
Palestinian leaders called on Airbnb to remove the settlement rentals nearly three years ago, accusing the company of being complicit in Israeli
settlements in the West Bank considered illegal under international law.
[08:25:04]
LIEBERMANN: In a statement after the Airbnb announcement, Erekat said, "Israeli settlements are not just an obstacle to peace, but defy the very
definition of peace." On the other hand, Israeli leaders slammed the decision and called on Airbnb to reverse it. Tourism Minister Yariv Levin
called it a disgraceful and miserable decision. The Deputy Foreign Minister said, it crossed a red line.
The Tourism Minister also said he will instruct the Ministry to work on limiting Airbnb's activity in Israel while also looking at ways to promote
rentals in West Bank settlements. Human Rights organizations hailed the decision as a positive step by the company. Omar Shakir, Israel and
Palestine Director for Human Rights Watch said in a statement, "Airbnb's decision to end its listings in Israeli settlements is an important
recognition that such listings can't square with its human rights responsibilities. We urge other companies to follow suit." Kristie.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
LU STOUT: Oren, thank you. You're watching "News Strem. And still ahead, he was credited with rebuilding Nissan over almost two decades, but it took
just one day for the company's chairman to fall from grace. Find out what might happen next to Carlos Ghosn.
I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong, you're watching "News Stream," and these are your world headlines. A US judge has temporarily blocked President
Donald Trump's asylum ban for migrants who enter the US illegally. That order was made earlier this month to stop a caravan of migrants from
crossing the border anywhere else other than official points of entry. But, in his ruling, the judge said, "Mr. Trump cannot rewrite immigration
laws to impose a condition that Congress has forbidden."
The British Prime Minister has been meeting with her new Cabinet today. It is the first time since last week's Brexit drama when two senior lawmakers
resigned. Mrs. May heads to Brussels on Wednesday where she will meet the European Commission President, Jean-Claude Juncker.
As Nissan prepares to oust its Chairman, Carlos Ghosn following his arrest, new details are emerging about some of the allegations against him.
Japan's national broadcaster, NHK, says Ghosn was given company money to fund four properties around the world and say he is accused of not paying
rent or declaring the homes on financial reports. For the latest from Tokyo, let's go to our Kaori Enjoji and Kaori, good see you, what is next
for Carlos Ghosn and his leadership rules, not just at Nissan, but at Renault and Mitsubishi?
KAORI ENJOJI, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, Kristie, new allegations, as you mentioned, are surfacing a day after Carlos Ghosn's arrest. The initial
allegations were that he may have underreported his salary by as much as half, 5 billion yen.
[08:30:05]
ENJOJI: But there are reports surfacing now that this investigation may have been prompted by a plea bargain which is a very new legal framework
that was adopted in June this year and that possibly, he was using corporate funds, Nissan money, to pay for homes in places like Rio de
Janeiro, Paris, Amsterdam and Beirut. I mean, over the last 20 years, I've interviewed Carlos Ghosn dozens of times and I've watched his
transformation literally, physically and also figuratively from being called "Le Cost Killer" to an icon of industry.
So as you can imagine, the attention now on his fall from grace matching his rock star status here in Japan.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
ENJOJI: When he arrived in Japan nearly 20 years ago, Carlos Ghosn was the CEO Japan loved to hate. In a country with few foreigners at the top, he
stood out. And when he cut thousands of jobs at Nissan, they labeled him "Le Cost Killer." But over the years, he saved Nissan from bankruptcy.
Allied with Renault and Mitsubishi, and turned the alliance into one of the most competitive in the world.
Throughout the transformation, though, tensions simmered repeatedly over one issue, his salary. The initial disdain wore off and Ghosn morphed into
an icon. When his $10 million payout Nissan handily doubled and tripled salaries at other Japanese blue chips, investors, even his own board
started to question whether he really deserved it.
His arrest on Monday on allegations of underreporting his salary by $44 million over a period of five years to some industry watchers was a
bombshell.
Another Nissan executive, Greg Kelly was also arrested after an investigation based on the same whistleblower report that Nissan say led to
Ghosn's arrest.
Nissan blamed the scandal on too much power concentrated for too long in one person.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TAKAKI NAKANISHI, ANALYST AND CEO, NAKANISHI RESEARCH INSTITUTE: I think Carlos Ghosn really wanted to maintain his autonomy, power and control at
risk - and of course all the governance.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ENJOJI: Ghosn took pride in being an exception. Carmakers are now competing against tech giants and their deep pockets to keep up with new
technology and Renault and Mitsubishi in particular can ill afford losing valuable backing from Nissan.
NAKANISHI: Carlos Ghosn, one of the highly respected and well accepted by Japanese people, so this is a significant damage to globalizing Japanese
society, Japanese rulemaking, Japanese corporations.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
ENJOJI: Well, the arrest means that he hasn't been formally indicted. He is likely to be held in a detention center affiliated with a Tokyo
prosecutor's office and legally that team has 20 days before they file formal charges, and so people are circling potentially December 7th for a
possibility of an indictment or a next step from the prosecutor's office here.
So until then, the three companies -- Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi -- the fate of those three companies, the French government and Japan's reputation
at large all hang in the balance, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, his downfall from grace is bringing a lot of other entities down with him. Kaori Enjoji reporting live from Tokyo, thank you.
Now, Malaysia's Prime Minister in waiting Anwar Ibrahim says he wants to take Goldman Sachs to court in every country possible. That's over the
alleged mishandling of bond offerings for Malaysia's Sovereign Wealth Fund. Earlier this month, US prosecutors filed criminal charges against two
former Goldman bankers and a Malaysian financier over the alleged theft of billions of dollars from the fund.
Speaking with Richard Quest, Anwar explains what he believes that money and more belongs to Malaysia.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANWAR IBRAHIM, PRESIDENT, MALAYSIA PEOPLES JUSTICE PARTY: It's not just 600. They have to pay the compensation, the losses, the image of the
country, the loss of years --
RICHARD QUEST, HOST, CNN: How much are you looking for?
IBRAHIM: I will leave it to the Ministry of Finance.
QUEST: You must have a number in mind? 1 billion? 3 billion? 5 billion?
IBRAHIM: I think it should be double this.
QUEST: Really?
IBRAHIM: Yes.
QUEST: Ten billion?
IBRAHIM: No, I mean, the number - what we lost.
QUEST: Oh, so you're talking about over a billion.
IBRAHIM: Yes.
QUEST: And if they don't pay, what will you do?
IBRAHIM: Go to the courts in every country possible where they were involved. Whether here in Malaysia, in the United States, sure.
QUEST: So you're determined to make as much trouble for them as you can.
IBRAHIM: No. We want enough resources back to serve our people. I don't believe that the country must suffer or the people must suffer just because
of the greed of some of these corporate leaders.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
[08:35:01]
LU STOUT: Now, Goldman Sachs, which has blamed rogue employees for the alleged crime, says it continues to cooperate with investigators.
Chinese President Xi Jinping is in the Philippines for the first state visit there in 13 years. Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has said he
wants to engage more with China despite disagreements with Beijing over sovereignty in the South China Sea. The long standing US ally hopes
Chinese funds will start flowing to the Philippines in the form of multibillion dollar loans and investments.
Seven years ago, a former Google employee left his job to start his own electronics employee country called Anker, and today, it is one of the best
selling smart phone accessories brands on Amazon, but as Matt Rivers discovers, you can launch a tech company in China as fast as the copycats.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
MATT RIVERS, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: On any assembly line, haste makes waste, but that doesn't mean that these Chinese workers are slow, far from it.
They are making batteries for Anker, one of the fastest growing smart phone accessory brands in Shenzhen, and this is their CEO, Steven Yang, a 36-
year-old former engineer at Google.
STEVEN YANG, CEO, ANKER: About six years ago, a few colleagues of mine at Google, we thought, "Hey, why don't we just jump in and actually try to
build our own brand."
RIVERS: Sounds ambitious enough, right? But his idea was based on a very real problem. As smartphones got thinner and faster, their battery life
didn't seem to change. So he moved to China to build a solution.
Why not go through this process in the United States where you know that's where you want to eventually sell to and create a market there? Why not
stay?
YANG: If you really want to develop products, you know, fast pace, I think you have to be in China and practically have to be in Shenzhen. Anything
you have to do, like, in days or weeks elsewhere can be done in hours here. That's just the difference.
RIVERS: That speed is what attracts most start-ups to Shenzhen, proximity to the supply chain means new products can be designed cheaper and faster
which can lead to quicker growth. Anker is now one of the best-selling power bank sellers on Amazon and nearly doubled its revenue in 2017 to over
$500 million.
Do you think that you would be successful as a company if you hadn't move back to China?
YANG: I doubt we would be as successful as we are today.
RIVERS: And maybe not as fast.
YANG: Definitely not as fast.
RIVERS: But that speed works both ways in China. Copycaters can steal your product more quickly.
In China, it's quite a battlefield. If I come up with an idea, how am I going to protect it?
Anker got hit by knockoffs early on. It used to be like the Wild West Yang tells us though authorities here are getting tougher these days.
Would you like to see intellectual property rights strengthened here? Do you think they're weak?
YANG: I think it's getting better year over year and that direction is firm. It's just how fast and actually how soon.
RIVERS: And how likely it will keep up with the quick pace of innovation. Matt Rivers, CNN, Shenzhen.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
LU STOUT: And discover more of the unique and emerging tech breakthroughs developed in China's Silicon Valley, Shenzhen with Matt Rivers in a
special program called "Innovate Shenzhen," it airs Thursday, 6:30 p.m. Hong Kong time, 10:30 a.m. in the morning in London only right here on CNN.
You're watching "News Stream" and still to come, "Going Green." We meet a marine scientist who is changing the way South Africans view and value
marine biodiversity.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back. Now, South Africa's ocean ecosystems are not all protected and one marine scientist is leading the charge to preserve the
country's unique and endangered sea life. We meet Living Planet award winner Dr. Kerry Sink in her second installment of "Going Green."
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KERRY SINK, LIVING PLANET AWARD WINNER: South Africa is really a maritime nation. We have three ocean systems. So here we are in the beautiful
Table Mountain National Park in the city of Cape Town at the tip of South Africa and it's here where the Atlantic Ocean and the Indian Ocean come
together in the mixing area and that's what drives this incredible marine biodiversity.
We get to experience places that no one has ever seen before and to witness the incredible diversity of the different types of ecosystems. I mean,
people imagine in their minds that you kind of go down and as soon as you hit that dark water, it all looks the same, but it's not like that.
There is incredible deep reefs with colorful lace corals. There are gardens of thistle corals. There are areas where life is sparse. I've
been working towards the proclamation of 20 new marine protected areas that will really represent our offshore biodiversity. So the different
ecosystem types and to safeguard offshore resources.
Dance of the winged whale on humpbacks. I'm also inspired by watching the next generation of scientists meet their goals and to show to them what is
under this blue blanket and to watch children and adults experience that is very rewarding.
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LU STOUT: That's just so great. Now, for five years now, NASA has been searching for the perfect landing spot for its upcoming Mars 2020 Rover
Mission and after scrutinizing over 60 locations, they finally settled on one. It's called the Jezero crater. NASA says the crater is some 45
kilometers wide, is home to an ancient river delta. It could have collected ancient organic molecules and other potential signs of microbial
life. The mission will launch in July or August of 2020 when Earth and Mars are in good positions relative to one another for a successful
landing.
And that is "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout, but don't go anywhere. "World Sport's" Alex Thomas is next.
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