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Impending Martial Law, Parts Of Ukraine Brace For A Heavy Military Presence As Russia Accuses Kiev Of A Political Agenda; Hate On The Rise, CNN's Survey Shows Worrying Trends Of Anti-Semitism In Europe; Gene Editing Outrage, China Orders An Over A Scientist's Claim That He Created The World's First Genetically Modified Babies.. Aired: 8-9a ET
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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST, NEWS STREAM: I'm Kristi Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to "News Stream." Impending martial law, parts of Ukraine brace
for a heavy military presence as Russia accuses Kiev of a political agenda. Hate on the rise, CNN's survey shows worrying trends of anti-Semitism in
Europe. And gene editing outrage, China orders an over a scientist's claim that he created the world's first genetically modified babies.
A tense standoff between Russia and Ukraine is escalating in the waters of Crimea. Ukrainian lawmakers have voted to impose 30 days of Martial Law in
parts of the country beginning on Wednesday. This includes border areas with Russia. It follows Sunday's naval confrontation in the Kerch Strait.
Take a look at this video appears shows a Russian ship ramming the Ukrainian tugboat, but the Kremlin accuses Ukraine of being the aggressor
calling the incident a quote, "dangerous provocation by Kiev." Russia seized three Ukrainian ships and detained two dozen sailors.
Now, we are following this story from all angles. We have CNN's Matthew Chance live for us in Moscow, but first, let's go to Nick Paton Walsh in
Kiev, and Nick, Ukraine is, again, preparing for martial law. What will it look like when it goes into effect tomorrow?
NICK PATON WALSH, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, we don't actually know, in all honesty. It's the first time it's being implemented
and we know that on paper we're expected to see sort of heightened military activity defenses, cyber defenses predominantly limited to 10 regions of
the country, all of which have one thing on common, they border parts of Russia where there are Russian troops or Russian backed separatists.
But given this has never happened in the country before, I think many are approaching it with some degree of anxiety here, not at least because there
are elections ahead. It should well be over before March's presidential vote, but it's sort of bringing perhaps an air of uncertainty here as to
exactly what that will do, although there are guarantees from the President that Constitutional rights will be protected.
The kremlin, though, have wasted no time, their spokesperson saying that it's a barely camouflaged overtone of a bid to try and raise tension here.
And I presume they will be suggesting the blockades may be in place towards separatist areas which will make things worse.
I have to say, there's very little doubt I think that the tension will rise once Martial Law is potentially in place albeit perhaps because Russia may
seek to exploit that. But there's an important thing to remember here, Kristie. You know, this is not an incident and is an isolation.
Ukraine has been in at war with Russia and Russian-backed separatists for four years now, on and off. And people die every week in the front lines
in the east. So we're looking at a very public, globally discussed incident here, but it's symptomatic frankly of Russia pushing Ukraine and
at times, Ukraine not quite being as internationally backed or coordinated in its response as some people might like to see.
LU STOUT: Yes, there has been this growing tension between both sides since Crimea was annexed back in 2014. Let's go to Matthew Chance standing
by in Moscow now and Matthew, your thoughts on the politics of this rising tension. Could it actually benefit Vladimir Putin whose approval ratings
there are flagging?
MATTHEW CHANCE, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, it's certainly possible, and you're right to say that Vladimir Putin's normally
sky high approval ratings which are regularly in the mid-80s in terms of percentage points have dipped over the past several months, partly because
of the economic climate and the lack of economic growth in this country.
And, of course, in the past when the Crimean peninsula was annexed by Russia back in 2014, that led to an enormous sort of nationalistic boost
for Vladimir Putin and even opposition voices in the country to a large extent. Closed ranks and supported the President in that - what we've seen
as a national effort.
And so reintroducing the Ukrainian bogeyman, as it were, may well prove to be beneficial for those popularity ratings, whether or not that was the
motivation for this I think is something for people to debate, but equally on the other side, and Nick just referred to this, the Kremlin says that
this was a crisis that was orchestrated for political reasons by the Ukrainians.
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CHANCE: The Ukrainian President is also suffering terrible polling figures. He's going into an election cycle next year. And, you know, the
speculation here in Moscow is that this was orchestrated in order to change that for him and to make him more popular. And so I think the takeout from
that is that perhaps both presidents, ironically, of Russia and of Ukraine may stand to benefit from this renewed standoff.
LU STOUT: Domestic politics play in both countries, both sides blaming the other. Matthew Chance reporting live from Moscow. Nick Paton Walsh live
for us in Kiev, thank you.
Western powers, they are furious over Russia's aggression and they are calling for de-escalation. Here is what the outgoing US Ambassador to the
UN said about the incident.
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NIKKI HALEY, US AMBASSADOR TO THE UN: This is no way for a law-abiding civilized nation to act. Impeding Ukraine's lawful transit through the
Kerch Strait is a violation under international law. It is an arrogant act that the international community must condemn and will never accept.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: And while American diplomats condemn Russia's actions, US President Donald Trump appears hesitant to do the same. Let's bring in
CNN's Joe Johns. He joins us live from the White House. And Joe, we heard a pretty tough reaction from Ambassador Haley, but why is Donald Trump
hesitant to condemn Russia here?
JOE JOHNS, SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Million-dollar question, I think. And as you know, Kristie, this isn't the first time the President
has been tepid on a response to the - if you will, aggression by Russia toward Ukraine. Let's just listen to the President's response that has
been seen as quite tepid as compared to his UN Ambassador, others in his administration as well as a number of western leaders have been quite clear
in condemning it. Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've let our position be known and we're not happy about it. We do not like what's happening;
either way, we don't like what's happening and hopefully, it will get straightened out. I know Europe is - they are not thrilled. They are
working on it, too. We're all working on it together.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JOHNS: So back to your question at the top, Kristie, why? Why is the President seemingly fairly tepid on all of this? Especially given the fact
that he's likely to meet Vladimir Putin at the G-20 in Buenos Aires later this week. Anybody's guess. We do know there has been a level of intrigue
involving this administration, this President and Russia going all the way back to the 2016 campaign, the ensuing investigation into Russian
interference in that election and anybody's guess, though, at the bottom why this President doesn't step out there like so many others, both western
leaders and even people in his own administration.
LU STOUT: Yes, and tepid is the word when we hear from the President saying, "Yes, it will get straightened out somehow." And looking ahead to
that G-20 Summit between Trump and Putin, and judging from his language and his past encounters, will Trump press Vladimir Putin not only on Ukraine,
but on other hot button issues like election interference?
JOHNS: Again, anybody's guess. We are hoping later today to get some more information about the approach this administration is going to take to that
meeting with Putin and others, whether it's going to be formal or another pull aside, as has occurred in the past.
But one thing that is clear, this President continues to be reluctant to go after Russia on a variety of different issues including Ukraine.
LU STOUT: Joe Johns, live at the White House, thank you. Now, Donald Trump is warning Apple products imported from China could be one of several
products hit with hefty new tariffs. That's if the two countries can't work something out at this week's G-20 Summit.
Mr. Trump told "The Wall Street Journal" it was highly unlikely he would accept an offer by the Chinese President aimed at averting a third round of
US tariffs on more than $200 billion worth of Chinese goods. Apple's stock fell 1.5 percentage points in after-hours trading on Monday following that
interview. It is still in the red as we approach the bell Tuesday morning in New York.
Now, President Trump also dealt a blow to a trade deal across the Atlantic on Tuesday by throwing his weight behind those criticizing the British
Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit plan. He said that the deal was unclear on Britain's freedom to trade with the US in the future. Take a
listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: Right now, if you look at the deal, they may not be able to trade with us and that wouldn't be a good thing. I don't think they meant that.
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TRUMP: I don't think that the Prime Minister meant that and hopefully she'll be able to do something about that, but right now, as the deal
stands, she may not - they may not be able to trade with the US and I don't think they want that at all. That would be a very big negative for
the deal.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Nina dos Santos joins us now from London. And Nina, Theresa May's deal roundly criticized by President Trump and not only that,
criticized by MPs in the House of Commons. How damaging is this for her and her big sales pitch going forward?
NINA DOS SANTOS, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, it's not the first time that Donald Trump has criticized Theresa May. You remember famously on the
visit, the state visit that he made to the United Kingdom over the course of this summer, he blasted Theresa May saying in an interview with "The
Sun," one of the most read newspapers that he had told her to organize Brexit, but she didn't listen to him.
And obviously now, he's making the point that he believes that she has got a raw deal. That is something that obviously is resonating with MPs, even
before Donald Trump waded into this hot debate. We knew that the House of Commons was bitterly divided, even her own party is bitterly divided on the
deal that she's managed to come back with from Brussels.
So, obviously, we've got less than 15 days to go before UK MPs actually vote on this. Aside from all of the minutia of the Parliamentary math,
just broadly speaking, it's looking at though we've got about 90 members of Theresa May's own party who are likely to rebel against this even though
the whips are in action trying to get them back on board. The opposition Labour Party, who she may well try and get some votes from, they've made it
clear that it doesn't meet their criteria and we've also got regional parties who are feeling alienated by this, as well.
That brings me to what Theresa May is doing today. She is spending much of the day in places like Wales, also Northern Ireland. In Northern Ireland,
obviously, she's relying upon the support of the Northern Irish Party, the DUP, to try and get many of her bills through Parliament because she's lost
her majority, so that is particularly sensitive.
And she is also trying to rally the business community behind her cause, as well. Now, we have got the Treasury that is going to be publishing a big
report on Brexit tomorrow. That could be sobering because they're going to be testing what a no deal scenario would mean for the UK. Theresa May
trying to get business leaders to tell MPs that the deal she's got is the best one they're going to get and that they should vote it through in two
weeks' time. Kristie.
LU STOUT: According to that Parliamentary math as you laid out, it is a tough road ahead for the British Prime Minister. Nina dos Santos,
reporting live from London. Thank you.
A remarkable development in the special counsel's investigation to Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential Election. Prosecutors say
President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, breached his plea agreement by lying to the FBI on a variety of matters. Manafort's
side denied that, but both sides asked the judge to move Manafort's case to sentencing. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy in witness tampering back in
September and agreed to cooperate with the prosecutors on the Russia probe.
A scientist in China claims he has helped create the world's first genetically edited babies, why the international community is now up in
arms. Also ahead, we talk exclusively to Uber's CEO at times of retribution across Silicon Valley. We ask Dara Khosrowshahi some tough
questions, next.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back. This is "News Stream." Chinese health and ethics officials are investigating a scientist's claim that he helped create the
world's first genetically edited babies. He Jiankui with his video announcement on YouTube shocked and horrified the international scientific
community.
There is an international agreement not to edit the genes of human embryos intended for pregnancy. He says twin girls were born earlier this month
using in vitro fertilization. The embryos were modified before implantation using CRISPR that's technology that allows scientists to
modify specific genes in the DNA.
The hospital named in his ethical approval documents has denied involvement in the procedures. His purpose, he says, was to make the babies resistant
to HIV.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HE JIANKUI, SCIENTIST: Right after we sent her the husband's sperm into her egg, we're also sending a little bit of protein and instruction for
gene surgery. When Lulu and Lasla was just a single cell. This surgery removed the doorway through which HIV enter to infect people.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Now, some scientists are calling the research monstrous and they're warning of unintended consequences. Off target effects as they're
called, like diseases later in life that we may not know about. More than 120 Chinese scientists condemned the research on the social media platform
Weybo saying in a joint statement that the trial is a huge blow to the reputation of Chinese biomedical research.
They write this, quote, "Directly experimenting on humans is nothing but crazy. As soon as a living human is produced, no one could predict what
kind of impact it will bring."
Joining us now is Benjamin Hurlbut, Associate Professor at Arizona State University School of Life Science. He is here in Hong Kong for the Genome
Editing Summit where He Jiankui is set to speak on Wednesday.
Sir, thank you for joining us here to lend some clarity on this mind boggling story. If his claims of these gene-edited babies are true, does
this open a sort of Pandora's Box?
BENJAMIN HURLBUT, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LIFE SCIENCE: You know, yes and no. It is a first and it's a significant
first and it's a worrisome first. Yet at the same time, it's simply a single instance and there's still ample opportunity for the wider
certificate community and indeed the wider world to consider what is at stake here and set limits if necessary.
LU STOUT: Yes, so let's consider that. He Jiankui says that this twin girls had their DNA altered to make them HIV resistant. What other kinds
of gene editing could this lead to?
HURLBUT: Well, I mean, I think there's a vast range of possible applications, all the way from correcting disease-causing genes, single
gene that's cause diseases often in some cases very severe diseases, to much more frivolous applications.
LU STOUT: You're talking about designer babies, altering eye color, even IQ.
HURLBUT: Well, to be clear, there are many features of our bodies that are encoded in our genes, but in extremely complex ways. So only the sorts of
changes that can be affected through a change to a single gene or a relatively small number of sites in the genome will be possible. Yet that
still remains a fairly large number of different types of traits.
LU STOUT: Got it. And you know, fears of designer babies aside, is there any good that could come out of this? For example, if there were strict
international regulations because eliminating inheritable diseases, that's a good thing, isn't it?
HURLBUT: Well, I think one important good that can come out of this is a broader, more robust and in a sense more urgent conversation about what is
at stake here. Because in my view, what is at stake here is not simply whether this technology is safe or even whether it's appropriate to apply
it in this particular way but, rather, the ways in which we relate to our children, the kinds of procreation that we engage in, the ways in which
they become projects for us or not.
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LU STOUT: Now, human beings and the human genome will continue to evolve. But do you think, from this point on, we will evolve at a more hastened way
because technologies like CRISPR?
HURLBUT: I don't buy into that kind of speculation. Although, yes, I mean, there is the possibility that with the application of these sorts of
techniques, it will change us. It will change the face of the human species in important ways. But I think the changes are actually more
significant on a sort of a social level than they are on a biological level.
Let me give just one example. So in this case, there's essentially no medical reason for making this alteration. The reason that the researchers
gave is that the father of these children has HIV and, therefore, apparently faces forms of discrimination and sigma in Chinese culture and
wishes for his children to never find themselves in a circumstance where they have to face those same problems.
But that's not a biological problem. That's a social problem. This is a genetic fix to a problem of social stigma and that is a dangerous door to
open. There are many features of our appearances that have, you might say, stigma attached to them and yet, sort of accepting that and dealing with it
by making changes to our appearance instead of our attitudes towards diversity ...
LU STOUT: Absolutely.
HURLBUT: ... is a serious concern.
LU STOUT: Professor Hurlbut, we'll leave it at that, but you leave us with a lot to consider. Thank you.
HURLBUT: Thank you.
LU STOUT: The founder of Alibaba, Jack Ma, has been outed as a Communist Party member. The revelation came in an article in the party's official
newspaper, "The People's Daily." About 100 people who have helped transform China's economy. The Communist Party requires putting the
party's interest above all else. Alibaba is a $30 billion company that trades on the New York Stock Exchange. Washington has showing a growing
suspicion of Chinese companies looking to expand overseas and Jack Ma's membership in the Communist Party could add fuel to that.
Turning to the UK now where a top Facebook executive appeared before lawmakers from nine different countries as part of this international
hearing on disinformation. But the star witness was notably absent. Mark Zuckerberg was repeatedly asked to attend, but the social media giant sent
Richard Allan instead. He is the company's Vice President of Public Policy for Europe.
Members of the committee stopped short of releasing documents that Facebook has been fighting to keep from the public. Now, in an exclusive
conversation with CNN, the CEO of Uber says tech companies must take responsibility for the reckoning that is rippling across Silicon Valley.
Dara Khosrowshahi says the public must trust but verify whether big tech is truly making the world a better place. Now, let's bring in our senior tech
correspondent Laurie Segall. She joins us live from New York. And Laurie, you spoke with him. How does the Uber chief plan to move his company
forward?
LAURIE SEGALL, SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT, CNN: You know, I think he's done quite a bit in the last year and he has quite a few plans for the
future. It is interesting talking to him about this. It's a fascinating moment for the company. This is a company that's hit - that had this win
at all costs reputation. It was hit with so many different scandals.
But Dara Khosrowshahi is the new CEO. It's who they brought in to replace the old CEO and try to repaint their image. He is an Iranian immigrant.
He has a very interesting story. He says he knows quite a bit about reinvention given his personal story and he says it's changing how he wants
to do business at Uber. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
SEGALL: At one point, the FBI came to your door in Tarrytown. This is when you moved over and said your family was going to be deported. How did
that shape you as a leader now, especially in this political environment?
DARA KHOSROWSHAHI, CEO, UBER: My mom did a great job of protecting us from those issues. But for me, it has created a true thankfulness for what we
have here in the US because we were truly lucky to come to this country during a time when immigrants were welcome. I understand what it's like to
be different and I understand what a prize we have here as American citizens.
SEGALL: You said the American dream is the greatest brand on earth.
KHOSROWSHAHI: Yes.
SEGALL: Do you think that brand is being tarnished?
KHOSROWSHAHI: I think it is at this point. I think that we have always been seen within the international community of a country, an immigrant
nation that was welcoming, that created the opportunity for success for anyone and everyone regardless of background. And, you know, this is a
personal opinion, but I think the direction that we're going in a little bit is unfortunate.
SEGALL: Can you give me anything specific about how you as a leader have kind of changed in this new era.
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KHOSROWSHAHI: You know, I have to tell you, it's an area that makes me uncomfortable. A CEO taking his personal beliefs and translating them into
the actions of a company, because in the end, I'm here to build this company. I am here to serve our constituencies, our drivers, our riders,
our customers and ultimately our investors. So why should I let my personal feelings get in the way or affect the direction of the company?
Many, many of our driver partners are immigrants that have come to this nation. It is part of the agenda of this company to provide an environment
of success for them. This public/private kind of borders, they're blurring. And I think it's a relatively uncomfortable time for CEOs and,
you know, we have got to figure out how to change them.
I'm figuring out as we go.
SEGALL: I've always been such an optimist on technology and I'm looking at the last couple of years and thinking, "Oh, my god," because this idea of
are you making the world better? I think people are genuinely questioning as Silicon Valley is doing what they promised. You guys have said trust us
for a while, and I think a lot of people don't have that trust.
KHOSROWSHAHI: I think it's fair to say trust, but verify. Our platform is a transportation platform. Facebook's platform is a digital connection
platform et cetera, and I think the hypothesis in the past was, well, we're building a platform and there are good people and bad people and we're not
responsible for what they do on the platform because we don't want to be the sensor. We don't want to tell you what to say.
But these platforms can create super powers. If you communicate something in the old world, you can get at five people. These platforms allow you to
communicate to a million and that realization has created, I think now the responsibility.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
SEGALL: And you certainly can understand what he's talking about when he talks about platform when you look at the story of Facebook and what's
happened with Facebook. So he talks about Uber not being any different.
And I will say also, I asked him about sexism at the company because there's a very high profile case of sexism against Uber and people speaking
out a year and a half ago which led to many women in Silicon Valley and in the tech industry speaking out against unfair treatment, and I said, you
know, what are we not allowed to say about the women's movement and what are we hearing behind the scenes in Silicon Valley that people aren't
saying?
He was uncomfortable with the question but he answered it. And what he said was, "You know, I think people are afraid to say certain things and I
think we need more open discourse and we need to start talking and having these uncomfortable conversations and making mistakes in order to grow."
And I think that's maybe a good lesson for Silicon Valley.
We hope they make less mistakes going forward, but it's been a really challenging time, I think in Silicon Valley and looking at the implications
of these platforms and looking at some of the other issues like sexism that have come along with this incredibly powerful and influential industry.
LU STOUT: Laurie, I'm so happy that you brought up the issue of work culture at Uber because given the issues over the years, a lot needs to be
fixed there. Laurie Segall reporting. Thank you for bringing that interview with us and take care.
And Laurie's interview, it's part of her new series. You want to watch it. It's called "The Human Code," and she sits down with the most influential
leaders in Silicon Valley who share their thoughts on where tech is headed and how it will continue to change our lives. You can find it at
cnnbusiness.com.
You're watching "News Stream." And still to come, strong reactions following CNN's exclusive poll on anti-Semitism around the world. Leaders
and lawmakers say the findings are appalling.
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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream." And these are your world headlines. Ukrainian lawmakers have
voted to impose 30 days of Martial Law in some areas of Ukraine including along the border with Russia beginning Wednesday. It follows Sunday's
naval confrontation in the Kerch Strait. Ukraine says Russia seized three of its vessels and around two dozen sailors. Both sides accuse the other
of being the aggressor. And moments ago, a report crossed on Russia state news agency RIA Novosti, it says that a court in Crimea sentenced one of
the Ukrainian sailors detained to two months detention.
French President Emmanuel Macron says he will not lower fuel prices and during a televised speech, Mr. Macron condemned violent protest nationwide
and said he would not concede anything to those who want destruction and disorder. More demonstrations are planned for this weekend.
US President Donald Trump is defending US authorities' use of teargas to disburse migrants at the border with Mexico on Sunday. Mr. Trump described
it as a very minor form of teargas and he questioned why the parents were approaching the border with children at all, suggesting some of the adults
grab children to better their chances of entering the US.
And now to a major CNN investigation revealing just how widespread and growing anti-Semitic attitudes are in Europe. More than 70 years ago when
the nightmare of the holocaust came to an end with the close of World War II, Germany as a nation vowed to never forget. Yet it seems that many in
Europe have done exactly that or even more shockingly have never even known about the atrocities committed against millions of Jews by the Nazis. All
this week, we are focusing on this shadow over Europe.
Our chief international correspondent, Clarissa Ward begins our coverage with a sweeping news survey commissioned by CNN that unearthed some
surprising statistics.
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CLARISSA WARD, CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: To give us our unprecedented look at anti-Semitism in Europe, we spoke to more than 7,000
European citizens across these seven countries. Forty four percent said they believe anti-Semitism is a growing problem in their country, with 40%
saying Jewish people are at risk of racist violence there. Sixty three percent, around two-thirds of the people we spoke to agree that
commemorating the holocaust helps ensure that such atrocities will never happen again. But awareness of the genocide seems to be fading.
Of the people in the 18 to 34 age bracket that we spoke to, almost two- fifths said they had either never even heard of the holocaust or had had just a little knowledge of it. The situation is especially bad in France;
8% of people we spoke to there across all age groups said they had never heard of the holocaust. That is around five million people in France
alone, more than double the population of Paris.
The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance spells out what anti- Semitism is with 11 specific examples. One is the myth that Jewish people control global media, economies and governments.
In Europe, 28% responded that Jewish people had too much influence in finance and business across the world, a view that was most common in
Poland and Hungary. Europe's understanding of how many Jewish people there are in the world is also way off the mark. Sixteen percent of respondents
thought that Jewish people make up at least a fifth of the global population.
According to Pew research, it's a hundredth of that, around 0.2%.
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LU STOUT: The Holocaust Remembrance Center in Israel issued a statement today saying it is deeply concerned by the findings in CNN's anti-Semitism
poll. Let's bring in Clarissa Ward. She joins us live from London and Clarissa, it never went away, anti-Semitism never disappeared in Europe.
Why?
WARD: Well, I think that part of the problem, Kristie, based on this poll and based on conversations with dozens of members of the Jewish communities
of various different European countries is that no one is really willing to accept responsibility for anti-Semitism within their own community or
belief structure. So you will have some people who would like to just say anti-Semitism is just a problem of the far right and we've seen the far
right gaining more momentum in the last few years and, therefore, it's a far right problem.
Then you talk to people on the right and they'll say no, actually, anti- Semitism is a phenomenon of the Muslim community and of elements within the Muslim community, and then you'll speak to Muslims who will say, no, anti-
Semitism is about Israel and Israel's policies.
So what you have is kind of a perfect storm where all the various different ideologies and theologies don't want to accept that anti-Semitism exists
within their communities. They are eager to sort of push or shunt the blame of onto other communities.
The reality that we found, Kristie, based on the polling, based on all the different types of people that we were speaking to across many different
countries is that anti-Semitism is complex, it is pervasive,it exists in the right, it exists in the left, it exists in Muslim communities. It
exists in many different places within Europe and until you have some kind of a sincere conversation as to the scale of the problem, I mean, you have
18% of Europeans saying outright, that's nearly a fifth of Europeans saying that they believe that anti-Semitism in their own countries is the result
of the everyday behavior of Jewish people. That is a startling fact.
Nineteen percent of Hungarians saying flat out they have an unfavorable impression of Jews altogether. Until you can have a serious conversation
about where those attitudes come from and the depths to which they permeate society, then, obviously, you're going to continue to see this troubling
rise in anti-Semitism in, of course, the very continent where the holocaust genocide took place, Kristie.
LU STOUT: This lack of a conversation, a serious one. This lack of accountability has allowed this intolerance to fester. Clarissa Ward,
reporting live for us. Clarissa, thank you. Now, we are getting more reactions from Europe and Israel to CNN's anti-Semitism poll.
Isaac Herzog, the Chairman of the Jewish Agency for Israel says the anti- Semitism is one of the oldest diseases for which there is no vaccine. He says this, quote, "I call upon the enlightened leaders of the world to take
the gloves off and work immediately and strongly against the worrying signs of anti-Semitism that can be found in various countries." Unquote.
Israel's former Ambassador to the US and current member of the Knesset, Michael Oren says this, "CNN's survey of anti-Semitism in Europe while
revealing some positive trends confirms that the world's oldest hatred persists in the continent that invented it."
Our week long look at anti-Semitism in Europe, it focuses on Germany on wednesday. Clarissa Ward will be taking us to a right wing extremist march
on the streets of Berlin.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WARD: Christian Weisberger explains that Neo-Nazis are finding new ways to express the same old hatred. And he should know. Weisberger used to be a
right wing extremist himself.
CHRISTIAN WEISBERGER, FORMER RIGHT WING EXTREMIST: I would say that it is a form of anti-Semitism that disguises itself, so they don't talk about the
Jew any more. They talk about the Zionists or the globalists or the bankers.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LU STOUT: Now Clarissa also meets with members of the Jewish community who are questioning their future in Germany. Join us for the next report in
this exclusive series that is called "A Shadow Over Europe: Anti-Semitism in 2018," Wednesday on CNN.
Meanwhile, you can find out more about anti-Semitism in Europe and the results of this CNN survey. Visit cnn.com/antisemitism. You're watching
"News Stream." We'll be right back.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back. Now, how old are you? It's a simple question, but the answer is a lot more interesting than you think. On today's "Live
Longer," CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta introduces us to a Yale researcher who looks age beyond her calendar years. Take a look at what that means for
disease prevention and for just how long we'll live.
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SANJAY GUPTA, CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: In her office at Yale, researcher and professor Morgan Levine writes out a series of letters and
numbers on the whiteboard.
MORGAN LEVINE, ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF PATHOLOGY, YALE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE: This is really interesting mathematical distribution which basically shows
mortality rates.
GUPTA: This represents age, but not in a way that you might think.
LEVINE: In my lab, we work on a lot of different types of aging measures. One of the most recent ones is based on just blood measures that you get at
your normal doctor's appointment and we basically take those and combine them using different algorithms to get what we call someone's phenotypic
age or biological age.
GUPTA: Your chronological age is how old the calendar says you are, but what Levine and her team are most interested in is your biological or
phenotypic age, basically the age at which your body is functioning.
LEVINE: People of the same chronological age aren't all at the same risk for developing cardiovascular disease or cancer or even dying. So what
this does is it actually gives us a better idea of where someone stands for their age. So even though you're maybe chronologically 50 years old, you
might have the health risks of someone who is 55.
GUPTA: The team identified nine biomarkers taken in a simple blood test that seems to be the most influential on life span. It included blood
sugar, kidney, liver markers as well as immune and inflammatory measures.
LEVINE: We can calculate everyone's phenotypic age in this sample and then we plot the phenotypic age versus the chronologic age. And basically, for
everyone that falls on this red line, it means their phenotypic age is exactly equal to their chronological age, so they look as we would expect.
Those above this red line are the ones that are of the highest mortality risk and they look much older than they'd expect. I think the most
exciting thing about this research is that these things aren't set in stone. I think we are given the information much earlier in the process
hopefully before someone ever develops disease and then they can really take steps to improve their health before it's too late.
GUPTA: Before it's too late. That's the key here. Identifying these risks earlier can help life spans in the long run by providing doctors with
the information to help patients take the right steps toward living longer.
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LU STOUT: And that is "News Stream." "World Sport" with Rhiannon Jones is next.
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