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Trump on Federal Workers; Golden Globe Awards; Eagles Beat the Bears; Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired January 07, 2019 - 06:30   ET

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[06:30:00] JOE LOCKHART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Republican field, don't pay any attention to me, I'm playing politics. But -- but I think it does -- it is -- it is the first and most important thing to happen in this race because if Biden gets in, you then have an establishment candidate. You have -- you'll have an attractive candidate. He's uncle Joe to a lot of people in this country. But it then becomes, who can position themselves as an alternative? Who is younger? Who's more progressive? Who's a person of color? Who's a woman? And it really will start to shake the field out.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: He becomes a target. And I'm not sure that's where he wants to be for his -- what could be his last political act, or it could be the way he gets to the White House.

LOCKHART: Yes.

BERMAN: We'll see. But it's interesting. He has that decision to make.

Joe, Scott, Nia, thank you all very much. Great to have you on.

CAMEROTA: The United States is now in the grip of its second longest shutdown in its history. President Trump, a billionaire, of course, says he can relate to the 800,000 furloughed workers who are not getting paid. Do they agree? We ask some of them, next.

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[06:35:09] ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: The partial government shutdown enters day 17. Hundreds of thousands of federal workers are going without pay. Of course they're facing tough decisions. So President Trump claims that he can, quote, relate.

CNN's Suzanne Malveaux is live in Washington with reaction from some of those federal workers.

What did you learn, Suzanne?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

One of the remarkable common threads among the federal workers who we talked to is that they are very reticent to take political sides as to who gets the blame for this. What they do say is that the president just doesn't get it. To be a government employee is to be a civil servant, which now President Trump is as well. And that means it's not about a Republican or a Democratic agenda, it is about coming to work to provide a service.

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MALVEAUX (voice over): President Trump says he understands what the hundreds of thousands of federal workers coping with the uncertainty over when they will receive their next paycheck are going through.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I can he relate and I'm sure that the people that are on the receiving end will make adjustment. They always do.

MALVEAUX: But some affected by the government shutdown aren't buying it.

ERIN KIDWELL, FURLOUGHED U.S. FOREST SERVICE WORKER: I have a hard time believing that someone who's been a millionaire since childhood can relate to having your family's income taken away and with no notice.

MALVEAUX: Erin Kidwell and her husband both work for the U.S. Forest Service in Oregon, working to prevent and reduce the risk of wildfires, like the ones that devastated the region last year. But with neither receiving paychecks, Erin has resorted to applying for unemployment and looking for temporary jobs to support her family.

KIDWELL: I'll have to make those decision on what bills we can pay and, you know, you have to take out loans. I don't know, I'm just really hoping this isn't very long.

MALVEAUX: Three hundred and eighty thousand federal employees remain furloughed and another 420,000 continue to work without a paycheck.

CHARMAINE BLAKELY, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR WORKING WITHOUT PAY: It's ironic that the people who are making the decisions are still getting paid. But we have to not get paid and still do our job.

MALVEAUX: TSA agent, Brian Turner, has been determined an essential employee, meaning that he has to work but he hasn't been paid since mid-December.

BRIAN TURNER, TSA AGENT WORKING WITHOUT PAY: I live about a half hour from work and it's going to come to a point where you say, do I put gas in my car or do I feed my family.

MALVEAUX: Brian and his wife Rachael had a baby five months ago and say they will run out of money by the end of the month. Without a solution, they fear they will lose their house.

RACHEL TURNER, WIFE OF TSA AGENT: Our child care payment is more than our mortgage. We're already stretched thin with that. And without the paycheck, it's just almost an impossible situation.

MALVEAUX: Despite these hardships, President Trump continues to insist that shutting down the government over his demand for a border wall is worth it.

TRUMP: Many of those people that won't be receiving a paycheck, many of those people agree 100 percent.

MALVEAUX: Erin adamantly disagrees.

KIDWELL: As a union rep, I have not heard anyone that agrees with this shutdown and not receiving a paycheck.

MALVEAUX: Isaac Ortiz, a senior correctional officer in El Paso for 27 years, says he has a message for the president.

ISAAC ORTIZ, SENIOR CORRECTIONAL OFFICER WORKING WITHOUT PAY: If I was to have a time to talk to him, I would tell him, look, we understand the agenda of border security, but don't put government employees in the middle of it.

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MALVEAUX: Isaac also says it's ironic that the federal inmates he watches ever are working inside the prison and they're getting paid while he and the other correctional officers are not.

John.

BERMAN: All right, Suzanne Malveaux, thanks very much. Reality for some 800,000 people who will miss a paycheck this week.

The Golden Globes kicked off the awards season. We have the shocking results. Shocking. I am shocked. Next.

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[06:42:53] CAMEROTA: A big upset at the Golden Globes last night. "Bohemian Rhapsody" won best drama.

BERMAN: It wasn't even good, let alone best. It's like -- like -- like -- how can something that's not even good be best?

CAMEROTA: I didn't get to see it. I don't know. We're going to find out.

BERMAN: All right. Sorry.

CAMEROTA: "Green Book" earning top honors in the best comedy or musical category.

BERMAN: I will note that "Bohemian Rhapsody" is a musical also. So how is it that it was even in the drama category?

CAMEROTA: You have a lot of strong thoughts.

BERMAN: I'm sorry. Am I jumping on here.

CAMEROTA: No, you have a lot of strong feelings.

BERMAN: You are only (ph) trying to read here. Go ahead.

CAMEROTA: Co-host Sandra Oh making history as the first person of Asian dissent to host the awards and for being the first Asian woman to take home the best actress award in a TV drama in nearly 40 years.

Joining us now, our CNN chief media correspondent Brian Stelter and CNN contributor and "Entertainment Tonight" Nischelle Turner.

But I don't know why we need guests --

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: I mean --

CAMEROTA: Because you can just --

TURNER: Coming in hot.

CAMEROTA: He's coming in hot. He's going to start at an 11.

OK, Nischelle, what was the headline to you?

TURNER: Well, what you just said, one of them, "Bohemian Rhapsody," winning best picture. I'm not as far over as John is with that one, that it wasn't even good, but I don't think it was the best picture of the year. I think that Rami Malek was outstanding. The last 20 minutes of the film were worth the price of admission. But best picture?

I will tell you, Hollywood forum (ph) press loves Rami Malek and they love a musical type of film. So, I mean, I guess I could see where they were coming from, although I don't know if this one will translate into the rest of the awards.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: But that's what this group is for, right, to give us something to argue about at the start of the award season.

TURNER: That is true. They love to zag when we all zig.

STELTER: I would have liked to see "A Star is Born" and "Black Panther" and some of these big tent moves that everybody had seen actually be celebrated.

TURNER: I agree.

BERMAN: Some of these good -- good movies.

STELTER: Yes, something like that. But, hey, that's what the Oscars are for.

TURNER: Right.

STELTER: Hopefully we'll have Oscar nominations in two weeks.

CAMEROTA: You're really sticking to your criterion of good.

BERMAN: I know. I just think, if you're going to be best, you have to meet that minimum bar of being good. CAMEROTA: Good.

STELTER: Ah, I see.

CAMEROTA: I understand.

BERMAN: Yes.

CAMEROTA: You're making it -- OK, Christian -- there -- it wasn't terribly political. In fact, it seemed like Andy Sandberg and Sandra Oh really steered away from it.

STELTER: Yes.

TURNER: They did. They did.

STELTER: Yes, make it about Hollywood, not about D.C., yes.

CAMEROTA: Yes. But Christian Bale didn't.

TURNER: Nope.

CAMEROTA: So here's that moment.

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CHRISTIAN BALE, ACTOR: He said, I've got to find somebody who can -- who can be absolutely charisma free and reviled by everybody. Thank you so Satan for giving me inspiration on how to play this role.

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[06:45:10] STELTER: He's trying to sell a few more tickets there, reminding people what "Vice" is all about. "Vice" has been a polarizing movie.

TURNER: Yes.

STELTER: That's what makes it interesting. But at least it's a slightly bigger movie. You know, it was mostly a non-political night. It was mostly a night where shows you'd never heard of or movies you'd never heard of were winning awards. And I feel like that's the part of the challenge of this entertainment world where there's 10,000 things to watch. Netflix had a big night if (ph) you (ph) haven't watched everything yet.

TURNER: Well, and Mitch McConnell better get ready -- yes, Mitch McConnell better get ready because Christian Bale said he's going to play him next. So I don't know if my old Kentucky home is in the works in Hollywood.

But, you're right, I mean Brad Simpson, who is the executive producer of "American Horror Story," Gianni Versace, he went political as well, not to the point of Christian Bale. But largely everything was -- stayed away. It was like really a feel-good type of night. I mean there were a couple shots taken by the hosts, but it was -- it was a feel-good kind of night. And my favorite moment was Carol Burnett. I mean I was on cloud nine when she came out and that room was full and there was so much love in the faces of everyone for her and she nailed it once again, just sharp as ever. I loved that moment so much.

BERMAN: So, do I get to ask anything or have I been disqualified completely?

CAMEROTA: All right, go ahead. Try it. Let's try it.

BERMAN: All right. So -- I wanted to know. I'm happy to sit this one out. So the whole Andy Sandberg and Sandra Oh, they did talk about the Oscars. I mean there were two hosts for the Golden Globes. There are no hosts for the Oscars. Think we have a clip of this. Let's play it.

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ANDY SANDBERG, HOST, GOLDEN GLOBE AWARDS: We are going to have some fun, give out some awards and one lucky audience member --

SANDBERG AND SANDRA OH, HOST, GOLDEN GLOBE AWARDS: Will host the Oscars!

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BERMAN: I mean people cringing there. What's going to happen here?

TURNER: Umm, no. I think Kevin Hart will host the Oscars. I think that's -- ultimately is what's going to happen. I think that everybody behind the scenes is trying to figure out a way for it to happen. The best possible way they can. I don't know if there's a way to make it an easy transition, but I think that in some way it will happen.

My vote, actually, is for Maya Rudolph, even though I -- I think she's fantastic. She's so funny. Last night her and Amy Poehler once again killed it. I think she should get her shot do this. She's fantastic. So --

CAMEROTA: Is she a contender?

TURNER: Probably not. I think that --

CAMEROTA: You're just throwing it out there.

STELTER: Apparently everybody's a contender.

TURNER: I was going to say -- I was going to say, everybody in that room was a contender.

STELTER: They were thinking about having no host at all.

TURNER: Right. Yes. And they said they thought about having like cameo heavy -- the show be cameo heavy and no host at all. But I really do think they're going to figure out a way for Kevin Hart to host the Oscars. Although, you know, the whole plea with Ellen and whatnot, it -- I'm not sure how well that has played in the public, even though I think in Hollywood it was received well. BERMAN: We have a picture actually of the biggest winner at the Golden Globes last night.

CAMEROTA: Very glamorous.

BERMAN: Let's put there up, if we can.

CAMEROTA: Yes, watch this.

TURNER: Oh, gosh.

CAMEROTA: See how glamorous this is.

BERMAN: That's CNN's Dana Bash right there.

STELTER: Yes.

TURNER: She looked amazing, right?

BERMAN: Dana Bash was on the red carpet inside the room, easily the most fabulous person there.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely. I mean what award did she take home?

BERMAN: All of them.

STELTER: Best dressed.

CAMEROTA: That's right. Fantastic. Most glamourous.

BERMAN: Honestly, she was -- she was better, by the way, in "Bohemian Rhapsody" than anyone else in that film, OK?

STELTER: She told me --

BERMAN: And she wasn't in it.

STELTER: She told me -- we were texting during the show. She said that if Congress -- if the White House, if the aides could all get in the same room for as long as they are at the Globes --

TURNER: Right.

STELTER: And then get a little -- get a little sloppy, we'd get a shutdown solution.

TURNER: (INAUDIBLE).

STELTER: We'd get a deal done. Maybe this is the solution for D.C.

CAMEROTA: That is the answer.

BERMAN: It's 88 members of the foreign press. All right, just --

TURNER: Ninety-three.

BERMAN: So just explain to people very quickly again, how is it different from the Oscars?

TURNER: Well, because there's 93 voting members for the Hollywood foreign press. There's 3,000 or so for the Oscars. So there you have it right there. I mean you could -- you could really win with like 15 votes and win a Golden Globe with like 15 votes. So, there you go.

CAMEROTA: Fascinating.

All right, guys, thank you very much.

BERMAN: Great to have you here. I apologize you had to sit through this.

CAMEROTA: Despite John's grumpiness.

TURNER: John's killing me at 6:48.

CAMEROTA: Thank you, guys.

All right, now to this heartbreak in Chicago.

BERMAN: Oh.

CAMEROTA: The Bears pounced -- bounced -- they bounced, they didn't pounce -- from the playoffs by a matter of inches. Am I editorializing, Brian?

STELTER: It was a beautiful moment (ph).

CAMEROTA: I feel like --

BERMAN: It was a bounce.

CAMEROTA: All right, more in the "Bleacher Report."

BERMAN: Donk. Donk.

CAMEROTA: Donk.

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[06:53:11] BERMAN: The Eagles continue their magical run with a dramatic playoff win on the road against the Bears.

Coy Wire, this was awful for Bears fans. I know you're in Santa Clara, I should not where you are, there for the National College Football Championship game.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, we'll talk about that in a second, John.

But, yes, a jaw-dropping finish in Chicago. The playoffs ending in heartbreaking fashion for Bears fans. Chicago was actually up with under a minute left, but the legend the Eagles backup QB Nick Foles continues to grow. A perfectly placed touchdown pass to Golden Tate to go up 16-15. But the Bears would drive into field goal range and Cody Parkey, who is tied for second most kicks this season, nails the 43 yarder. But it doesn't count. Of course Eagles Coach Doug Pederson called a time out before the snap. Parkey kicks again, but it hits the uprights, then the crossbar, and bounces outs. The Eagles say they tipped it. The defending champs are moving on. They're at New Orleans next Sunday. Cody Parkey finished the season with an astonishing six misses that hit the uprights. He was booed off his home field and all Chicago fans heartbroken after that wild, wild ending.

Now, in college football, Alabama and Clemson playing tonight for the title for the third time in the last four years. And many folks are saying this matchup is bad for college ball. You can actually get tickets on Stub Hub right now for $180. For perspective, last year the cheapest ticket for the Bama/Georgia matchup was $1,700 the day before the game. Location, a huge factor. Two teams from the southeast. I talked to several players who said their parent can't even make the trip to come see them play in the title game because it's such a big trip to the bay area.

We caught up with some players at media day, asked if they think this game is bad for football and why they think fans should even watch. Listen.

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[06:55:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The only thing better than a trilogy is the fourth time around.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you don't watch, you're missing out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a must-see thing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to give everybody a show.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can't help it that we're good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's "Rocky IV." (INAUDIBLE). I'm a senior, so I've played them every year since I've been here, you know. We've got to go out on top.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's just to powerhouses going at it and it's going to be a heavyweight fight. It's going to be a dogfight till the end.

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WIRE: One Clemson player told me that he hopes that people look back some day at this as an all-time classic rivalry, like back in the '80s, John, when your Celtics and the Lakers went at it three times and it's now considered a great, great all-time rivalry.

BERMAN: All right, Coy Wire, in Santa Clara for the championship game.

Who do you have tonight?

CAMEROTA: Who's player?

BERMAN: Alabama and Clemson. CAMEROTA: Who should I like?

BERMAN: One of them.

CAMEROTA: Well, who has the better uniform?

BERMAN: Alabama.

CAMEROTA: Alabama. OK, fantastic.

As the shutdown enters a third week, the White House is pedaling erroneous numbers on border crossings to scare people. We give you the latest details, next.

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[06:59:59] (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This president doesn't have the power to build a multibillion dollar wall on the border. He's painted himself into a corner.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: The president will compromise but he will not capitulate.