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Democrats Reject Trump's Offer to End Shutdown; Suspected Car Bombing Rattles Northern Ireland; At Least 73 Killed in Mexico Pipeline Blast; Police Advise Prince Philip for Not Wearing Seat Belt; CNN Goes to Southern U.S. Border but No Crisis; Native American Elder Faces Off with Teens; Interview with Human Rights Advocate Derreck Kayongo; Kenyans Mourn 21 Killed by Al-Shabaab; Injured Turtles Wash Up on Israeli Shores; "SNL's" Shutdown Game Show. Aired 5-6a ET

Aired January 20, 2019 - 05:00   ET




NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): With the government shutdown reaching day 30, President Trump offers his version of a compromise on border security. But Democratic lawmakers swiftly reject it.

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Plus investigators in Northern Ireland work to uncover what was -- who was behind a suspected car bomb. We have a live report from the scene ahead.

Also this to tell you about --


ALLEN (voice-over): Outrage over this now viral video showing high school teenagers harassing a Native American elder. What he says scared him most about that confrontation.


HOWELL (voice-over): Live from CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta, welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I'm George Howell.

ALLEN (voice-over): I'm Natalie Allen. CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.


HOWELL: At 5:01 on the U.S. East Coast, a forceful no from Democrats to the Trump White House after the president's latest proposal to end the government shutdown fell flat.

ALLEN: Mr. Trump offered to temporarily lift the threat of deportation hanging over 1 million undocumented immigrants but only if he got his border wall. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The plan includes $5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers or a wall. This is not a 2,000-mile concrete structure from sea to sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations.


HOWELL: The top U.S. Democrat, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, rejected the deal before it was even offered. She said the president was just recycling old ideas that had already been turned down.

In the meantime, some 800,000 federal workers still waiting and wondering what happens next. This partial government shutdown lingers on now in its 30th day. Our Sarah Westwood has more now from the White House.


SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: President Trump on Saturday rolling out a proposal that he described as an attempt to break the logjam that has dragged this partial government shutdown nearly a month.

The president proposing from the White House a deal that would net him $5.7 billion in funding for his border wall as well as millions for other security measures, like more immigration judges, more detention space at the border, even more Border Patrol agents.

And in exchange, Trump says he would agree to a one-time, three-year renewal of DACA protections for those young undocumented immigrants known as DREAMers as well as a three-year extension of temporary protected status for the roughly 300,000 immigrants currently covered under that status.

But they are facing the prospect of their TPS expiring. The White House is defending this proposal on Saturday against criticisms from both sides of the aisle, responding to charges from the far right that this bill would amount to amnesty.

Vice President Pence said that a pathway to citizenship right now is not on the table, claims that the bill would not constitute amnesty for the DREAMers. Pence also acknowledging that the president in the past has said he would not support this kind of trade, DACA for wall funding, by saying that the president came around to the idea after hearing from rank and file members on both sides of the aisle.

Now the White House is hoping to move quickly on this bill with a vote in the Senate as soon as next week. But it's not yet clear whether the bill has the ability to make it through the Republican controlled Senate, let alone the Democratic controlled House -- Sarah Westwood, CNN, the White House.


ALLEN: And congressional reaction to the White House proposal broke mostly along party lines. Democrats saw nothing to like about it.

Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer tweeting this, "It was president Donald Trump who singlehandedly took away DACA and TPS protections in the first place. Offering some protections back in exchange for the wall is not a compromise but more hostage taking."

HOWELL: The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, pitched it as a bipartisan breakthrough.

He said, quote, "Compromise in divided government means that everyone can't get everything they want every time."

He goes on to say, "The president's proposal reflects that. It strikes a fair compromise by incorporating priorities from both sides of the aisle."

ALLEN: That theme was echoed by fellow Republican senator Mitt Romney.

He tweeted, "The president has put forth a reasonable, good faith proposal that will reopen the government --


ALLEN: -- "and help secure the border. I look forward to voting for it and will work to encourage my Republican and Democratic colleagues to do the same."

HOWELL: But clearly Democrats are not buying what the president is selling here.

ALLEN: One California congresswoman explains what Democrats want regarding immigration to our Ana Cabrera.


REP. ZOE LOFGREN (D): One of the proposals is something we have been urging for a long time and frankly President Obama also didn't do what we wished, which is to increase the number of immigration judges dramatically.

We need to have dramatic infrastructure upgrades at the ports of entry. Almost all of the drugs that are coming over the land borders come from the ports of entry. They come on great big trucks. And we don't have the latest technology to detect those drugs or, for that matter, other material that could do us harm.


HOWELL: The term "humanitarian crisis," two words the president calls it, as he's been consistently using it to justify the border wall that he wants in Saturday's address, he repeated that message. Listen.


TRUMP: There is a humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border that requires urgent action. Thousands of children are being exploited by ruthless coyotes and vicious cartels and gangs.

Vast quantities of lethal narcotics are flooding through our border and into our communities, including meth, cocaine, heroin and Fentanyl. The lack of border control provides a gateway, a very wide and open gateway, for criminals and gang members to enter the United States.


ALLEN: President Trump making claims of humanitarian crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border but is he right?

Let's look at the facts. According to Custom and Border Protection data, the number of people arrested at the border is at historic lows. Nearly 1 million people were brought into Border Patrol custody annually in the early 2000s.

Compare that with the last two years, only around 400,000 migrants have been apprehended.

As for the drugs being smuggled into the country, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration, the majority of hard narcotics like heroin, opium, Fentanyl, seized by Customs and Border Protection, come through legal ports of entry, not on the open border.

The drugs are disguised with other goods and can go undetected and over six times more methamphetamine is seized at ports of entry versus other places.

HOWELL: It is important to look at the facts around all of this. The impact of 800,000 federal workers not being paid, that goes beyond the individuals and their immediate families. It has a ripple effect in local communities and it puts a big strain on society.

Food banks are popping up to provide groceries. These government workers now on the verge of missing their second paycheck doing the very best they can to cope with it.

ALLEN: One mother who works for the TSA spoke with us about running out of options.


TOYA CONHAM, UNPAID TSA WORKER: It is hard right now. It is extremely hard, having to find food from the food pantries because I wasn't eligible for food stamps, just trying to get as much as I can, unemployment, I'm having a problem with that. Said I'm not eligible for that because I'm still technically working. But I have no funds to prove that.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: How much longer do you think you can continue doing this?

CONHAM: I don't know this is the second pay period. I don't think after this, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't even know. I don't have an answer. I'm in limbo. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ALLEN: The food bank says it can feed 16,000 affected federal workers in Atlanta for now.

Let's talk about what's going on with Scott Lucas of the University of Birmingham in England, a professor of international politics, founder of "EA WorldView" and frequent visitor to our program. Hello to you, Scott.


ALLEN: We just heard right there, that worker, we just heard from, the fact you can tell she just doesn't have a solution. And she represents so many across the country. The president offered temporary support for DREAMers and the latest effort to work with Democrats but he still insists on his wall.

This was his first public overture to Democrats and it didn't go anywhere.

What is your take on his proposal?

LUCAS: Let's state some basics here. First of all, Donald Trump created this shutdown by insisting on the money for the wall, on December 21st. He's rejected repeated offers for additional border security money., not only from Democrats but from some Republicans and he now needs to find a way out of the shutdown.

But what he offered yesterday to all of those people who are being affected by the shutdown --


LUCAS: -- and indeed to immigrants was not a deal, it was not a compromise, it was giving up one hostage and keeping others. And let's just be very clear why.

Donald Trump said, OK, OK, you give me the money for the wall and then I will extend protection for DREAMers, those 800,000 young immigrants, for three years. He did not mention that he was the one who took away those protections and threatened deportation to those DREAMers last March.

He said, OK, we'll give temporary protected status to about 300,000 immigrants. He did not mention that he, his administration was the one that took those protections away and put them at risk.

And of course nowhere in the speech did he mention those 800,000 workers, half of whom are still facing trying to work without pay.

ALLEN: His offer fell flat with Democrats and immigration hardliners, too, Scott, from his base, some of whom incensed with his offer for temporary protection for DREAMers. Here is Ann Coulter's tweet.

"Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb." She said this on Twitter, "100 miles of border wall in exchange for

amnesty, millions of illegals, so if we grant citizenship to a billion foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall."

She is someone who has an impact on the president. And it doesn't seem he's getting support from the Left or the Right on this.

LUCAS: Right. But here is the significance, Natalie. That is last March there was a deal on the table that Trump initially supported, which was, OK you get money for your wall but you give a path to citizenship for those DREAMers and stop threatening them with deportation. And he was going to agree to that deal.

And then hardliners inside the White House, Stephen Miller, went to him and said, look, all these conservative commentators like Ann Coulter, they're saying you're weak and Trump reversed course.

What that means now is that Trump cannot go as far as to offer citizenship, which would be a possible way out of the crisis because he fears, more than the Democrats, more than those federal workers who are unemployed or, sorry, without pay, he fears people like Ann Coulter and James Carafano of the Heritage Foundation.

Because when Carafano said this is amnesty, you know what vice president Pence said, oh, don't worry, we'll never give them a path to citizenship.

ALLEN: Democrats continue to say they'll only negotiate border security once the government is reopened. The president appears to be boxed in, Scott.

How does he get out of this now?

LUCAS: With any other president, I would say you find your way around this to get part of what you want -- enhanced border fencing, improved technology on the border, more judges to deal with immigration cases, more border guards -- because, with previous presidents and with previous Congresses, you don't take this to the point of paralyzing the government for more than a few weeks.

But this guy's different. This is his Holy Grail. This is his vanity project. And until someone takes the words "the wall" out of his mouth, we're stuck.

ALLEN: Scott Lucas, we appreciate your insights. Thank you.

LUCAS: Thank you.

HOWELL: Police are investigating a suspected car bomb that exploded in Northern Ireland. This happened in Londonderry, also known as Derry, Saturday night. At this point, no injuries reported.

ALLEN: Police haven't given information about any suspects and no one has claimed responsibility. But the incident has sparked fear in the city that there could be a resurgence of sectarian violence.

HOWELL: Live now to Nic Robertson, following the story in Derry.

Nic, this being described by many as terrorism.

What more do we know at this point?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: George, we have new details from the police. And they certainly give an indication more precisely what happened. They say 7:55 pm yesterday evening, when the town here would have been busy, the police spotted what they thought was a suspicious vehicle outside of the courthouse, which is just up the street behind me.

They then began to make investigations about it. But as soon as -- pretty much as soon as they spotted it, within five minutes, there was a warning call then, a bomb threat warning called in to them; 10 minutes after that, they say the bomb went off.

In the meantime, the police were evacuating people in the area. They had 150 people gathered in a local hall there, were evacuating them. At a nearby hotel, they evacuated those residents as well a little later.

They also say there was a children's club in the area that they evacuated. The area remains cordoned off. The police forensics team went in about an hour ago, first light here.

But the police are also giving us a better understanding of the vehicle itself. They're saying it was hijacked locally, just shortly before the attack, and then taken and put on the -- and put --


ROBERTSON: -- outside the courthouse. So the indications here, the hijacking just before, clearly it appears having a bomb ready to go to put into that vehicle, the warning called in, do point to some level of organization for the group or people that were behind this.

It is symptomatic of the way that -- what is known here as dissident Republican -- splinter Republican groups have acted in the past.

HOWELL: A bit there on the past. This is a city that has seen this type of violence before.

Is there any sense of why, Nic, this could be happening now?

ROBERTSON: You know, when we talked to people last night, in the town here, they said they were not frightened by this but they were angry. And when we asked them why they were angry, they said, look, in this town, we didn't vote for Brexit.

This town is about 100,000 people; the border is just a couple of miles away, a lot of people have family, holiday homes across the border. They cross over the border all the time routinely. They said we didn't vote to leave the European Union, we didn't vote for Brexit but we were willing to accept Theresa May's plan. Now they say they feel let down by those Northern Irish MPs who refuse

to accept Theresa May's plan. This falls across the principal divides here in Northern Ireland. The nationalist aspiration for a united Ireland and the Unionist aspiration to keep Northern Ireland closely tied with mainland Britain.

These are the old fault lines of The Troubles, the violence that happened here several decades ago.

So people say that essentially they are angry with those Unionist MPs, who turned down Theresa May's deal and that opens up politically some of the old wounds.

But people we have spoken to in recent days here say they're very worried about what is happening with Brexit, that nothing is really clear and they're worried, they have been telling us in recent days, about a return to violence and this will undoubtedly, undoubtedly heighten those concerns.

HOWELL: That deal you speak of, Nic, soundly rejected in Parliament and now Theresa May looking for plan B. We will have to see where that goes. Nic Robertson live for us. Thank you.

ALLEN: Mexico's deadly pipeline blast was a major crisis and it exposed a big problem affecting many in the country. Ahead, hear how rampant fuel theft is costing Mexico billions.

HOWELL: Millions across the United States getting hit heavy with snow. Take a look at that. Freezing cold temperatures as well. Ahead, the forecast of this fast moving storm.





ALLEN: Some 200,000 customers are without power in Chile following a 6.7 magnitude earthquake. It struck Saturday night near the port city of Coquimbo.

HOWELL: The earthquake rattled buildings there and it forced people to rush out of their homes. You can see in this video how terrifying it must have been for so many people. Officials say there was no tsunami threat, despite initial concerns there.

Mexico continues to investigate the cause of Friday's pipeline explosion, an explosion that killed 73 people. Officials say it happened as people were trying to steal gasoline from the line.

ALLEN: And it may have been sparked by static electricity. As CNN's Rafael Romo reports, the blast highlights how problematic fuel theft has become in Mexico.


RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SR. LATIN AFFAIRS EDITOR (voice-over): Firefighters stand by helplessly as a giant fireball engulfs a pipeline in Mexico. Dozens are dead in the blaze in the state of Hidalgo, just 120 kilometers north of Mexico city.

Officials say the cause of the fire is under investigation but it happened after a raid by fuel thieves, who drill illegal taps into the pipelines. It is a crime that has become widespread in Mexico and one the President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has vowed to stop.

ANDRES MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR, PRESIDENT OF MEXICO (through translator): We will eradicate this gas black market. It not only causes material damages or damages to our nation but the risk, the danger and the loss of human lives.

ROMO (voice-over): In December, Lopez Obrador launched a crackdown on fuel theft, saying it caused the country around $3 billion last year, with some estimates saying the pipelines were raided an average of 42 times a day.

The government has since deployed additional troops and federal police to protect refineries and shut down some of the pipelines, delivering some of the fuel by tanker trucks instead.

Authorities say this latest fire was extremely deadly because several hundred local residents were on the scene, siphoning up the spilling gas. Lopez Obrador says he will work closely with investigators to prevent incidents like this from happening again.

LOPEZ OBRADOR (through translator): We are saddened by what has happened, by this tragedy and we want before anything else to give our deepest condolences to the families of the victims.

ROMO (voice-over): Rafael Romo, CNN.




ALLEN: Here is one for you, how do you kind of scold a prince?

I don't know.

HOWELL: Not easy.

ALLEN: Not easy. Police in Norfolk, England, say they have had a word with one of the area's most famous residents, Prince Philip.

HOWELL: Had a word?


(LAUGHTER) ALLEN: Police say they offered the Duke of Edinburgh what they call "suitable words of advice" after he was pictured driving without a seat belt.

HOWELL: How was that advice received?

A source at Buckingham Palace tells CNN the 97-year-old British royal passed a vision test Saturday, it comes just 48 hours after he crashed his vehicle, sending two people to hospital with minor injuries. Prince Philip was unhurt in Thursday's accident near Sandringham estate, where he and the queen spent part of the winter.

ALLEN: Buckle up, Prince Philip.

CNN takes a tour of the U.S. southern border in Texas. Coming up, a congressman there says it is safer to walk around at night in his border town than it is to walk around in Washington.


NATHAN PHILLIPS, NATIVE AMERICAN ELDER, VIETNAM WAR VETERAN: The whole idea, the spirit of America, that wasn't it. That wasn't the American spirit there that they were putting out there.


HOWELL: On a weekend dedicated in the U.S. to a man of peace, another man of peace stands face to face with bigotry. Details ahead plus a live interview.





HOWELL: Welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. You are watching CNN NEWSROOM live from the ATL. I'm George Howell.

ALLEN: I'm Natalie Allen. Here are the top stories.


HOWELL: The U.S. president characterizes it as a crisis on the U.S. southern border that only a wall can fix. He's even threatened to declare a national emergency if Congress doesn't approve his funding.

ALLEN: But the reality along the border hardly resembles a crisis. CNN's Kaylee Hartung is there.


KAYLEE HARTUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: On Saturday, we heard President Trump address what he calls a humanitarian and national security crisis along the border, a culture he says is filled with drugs, violence, murder and crime.

I spoke with Congressman Vicente Gonzalez not long after Trump's remarks, a man who represents the 15th Congressional District, that's 40 miles running along the border with Mexico. He described the reality he sees in life for him and his constituents.


REP. VICENTE GONZALEZ (D), TEXAS: I take walks around my neighborhood late at night, something I won't do in Washington, D.C. As I said, it is one of the safest cities in America. We have zero murders in 2018, we had great law enforcement.

And our border is a different issue. He talks about a wall. That doesn't stop 75 percent of the migration that is coming across because they're asylum seekers. They actually go to areas where there is a wall already and go up to a camera and wave at them so agents come and pick them up and they can apply for asylum.

I think we should have cutting-edge technology on our border. We should have more immigration judges to process those asylum claims faster. It shouldn't take two years or one year the way it does now. If you don't qualify and you have to be deported, we send you home in a family unit, in a humane way, the way America has always been.


HARTUNG: There's no denying that immigration reform is needed to address the problems faced in this country. But as Congressman Gonzalez suggests, a virtual wall would do more to protect this country than a structural one. The pillars of that virtual wall, though, technology, as opposed to the see-through steel structure that President Trump has described.

A reminder as this government shutdown continues, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents among those who have been working without pay for nearly a month now. -- Kaylee Hartung, CNN, in Hidalgo, Texas.


HOWELL: Kaylee, thank you.

A Native American elder and Vietnam War veteran has spoken to CNN after videos of a group of teenagers harassing and mocking him went viral.

ALLEN: It is disturbing. Here's one of the videos.


ALLEN (voice-over): This happened Friday on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. Nathan Phillips was beating a ceremonial drum and singing a Native American protest song when he saw a group of protesters about to clash with four young African Americans, preaching about the Bible and oppression.

The situation came to a head when that young man there, wearing a make America great again hat, got right in his face and didn't move.



NATHAN PHILLIPS, NATIVE AMERICAN ELDER, VIETNAM WAR VETERAN: When I was there and I was standing there and I seen that group of people in front of me and I seen the angry faces and all of that, I realized I had put myself in a really dangerous situation, you know?

It was like, here is a group of people who were angry at somebody else and I put myself in front of that and, all of a sudden, I'm the one who is -- all that anger and all of that wanting to have the freedom to just rip me apart, you know?

That was scary. And I -- I'm a Vietnam times veteran and I know that mentality of, there is enough of us; we can do this.


HOWELL: The students attend Covington Catholic High School in the state of Kentucky, which is part of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington.

It released this statement that reads as follows, quote, "We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students toward Nathan Phillips --


HOWELL: -- "specifically and Native Americans in general. We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips.

"This behavior is opposed to the church's teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person. The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion."

We're joined now with human rights advocate Derreck Kayongo. Derreck also served as the CEO of the Center for Civil and Human Rights here in Atlanta.

Derreck, thank you for being with us to talk about this.


HOWELL: So I want to talk more that video, if we could take that video in full, because it captures a moment. This is something that is happening now in the United States, we'll get more into that in a moment.

One of most troubling things here, to me, when I look at this, laughter in the background and this kid in the front, thinks it's somehow acceptable to stand in the face of this Native American man and he has this emboldened smirk on face.

KAYONGO: That speaks volumes about not just the kid but all of us as a society. We're supposed to help our young understand the value of who we all are and the value of the culture of the country.

My feeling today, I have an 18-year-old son. And if I don't deliver the cultural norms and guard rails in how he behaves in this country, then I have failed all of you. So when I saw that young man belittle that situation, I felt that we all were not stepping up to the plate to educate our very young.

And that's going to be a big moment, not just for that young man, not just for the Catholic diocese but for all of us. That's where I think I am really passionate about.

ALLEN: And it is not just him that disturbs me, it is the others, it is his schoolmates there, that are having fun with it. They think it is funny. They're laughing. It is so disturbing. It has gone viral, 3 million views. It has got worldwide reaction.

We want to listen to the spokesperson for the Indigenous Peoples March talk about this situation.


CHASE IRON EYES, CEO, INDIGENOUS PEOPLES MARCH: It is emblematic of, I think, where we're at in terms of race relations in our country. We feel that President Trump is giving license to some of this behavior in his rhetoric, in his behavior. He sets the tone for a lot of our citizens in this country.

And when he says things like using Pocahontas as a racial slur, time and time again, making light of our genocide at Wounded Knee, where my family literally survived that massacre, it is unfortunate. But it shows us where we're at and shows us how much work we have to do.


ALLEN: You can see his pain there.

Do you agree that the president is setting a foul tone when it comes to racism?

KAYONGO: You know, many people have acclaimed that. And I think that the point here is not so much that the president is one of those people that is perpetuating that particular volume but that all of us in some way have been playing with this particular naughty idea that the Other is not important.

And so the value here is that all of us are responsible to bring an environment, a milieu in which we respect each other. As a human rights advocate, I can tell you, when human rights are abused, it's hard to reverse them.

So when you call people names, using people's culture and using a beautiful name like Pocahontas to appropriate, you know, this incendiary behavior, then you give license for others to actually start using that same kind of negativity to describe a very important group of people. Native Americans have done a lot to accommodate all of us here.

ALLEN: Right.

KAYONGO: They have done a lot. And all of us should really see this moment as an opportunity to go back and sort of atone for what has happened to that particular group of people.

So I think this is an important moment for all of us, not just the church, not just the young man, but just you and I, the president has to step in and speak at -- about this moment and say, this is not acceptable.

HOWELL: The president really saying nothing. Recently with Representative Steven King, Steve King and his comments around white nationalism, mum is the word from the White House, there have been several other incidents that have come to light, this lawsuit filed in the state of Ohio, a GM plant where workers say racism was prevalent, nooses and "whites only" signs hung to intimidate there.

And this video posted to Twitter, this from Oklahoma -- the state of Oklahoma, OU students there wearing black face and allegedly, possibly saying a racial slur. All of this on the heels of Martin Luther King's day. It is one of those things where some people thought this sort of thing was gone. But really it is always.


KAYONGO: And that's why I think that this is interesting it happened at this time when we're actually just about to talk about Martin Luther King's work. Those of you who are in places of leadership, you need to really take this seriously.

Monday is an important day. And I think this particular behavior we see from these young people is going to be an option for difficult for people like me. I will stand here and tell you, I'm ready to go to Covington High School and speak to them about this beauty of diversity and inclusion and the power of that particular spokesmanship.

So rather than critique them, we should offer an opportunity to educate them. This is a conduct (ph) moment for education. And I think that I'm so proud of Martin Luther King's work and this is an opportunity for us to actually show how important that work was. So let's do it.

ALLEN: Right. And he calls for a day of service and that would be a very good service to conduct, would it not?

Because you've got to look at solutions. I remember a while back, someone was saying, around the Thanksgiving table if you hear someone in your family say something racist or negative, don't take that anymore. Start a discussion that is constructive.

KAYONGO: So the issue is going to be, what are we going to do next, what is the next step, what is the next action we're going to do?

And for us, those of us who are human rights advocates, it's an opportunity for us to offer ourselves. We're willing to come out to your schools, to your universities, to educate these young people, because they're coming into the marketplace.

And they cannot come into the marketplace with scruples and biases because that shrinks the marketplace. That young man, I think, will have a wonderful time if he learned more about Native America. I think he should go spend some time in the Native American community and learn a little bit about their work.

HOWELL: It is interesting and, to your point, people see these things and it feels like you pull to tribal. But it is more important to go out and make sure that people understand the differences. Derreck, thank you so much for your time.

KAYONGO: Oh, thank you so much.

HOWELL: We appreciate it.

ALLEN: Yes, thanks, Derreck. We can only hope that they're in the minority, hopefully, that kind of action.

We're coming right back with more news. Please stay with us.





HOWELL: The United States says that 52 militants are dead after an airstrike Saturday in Somalia. The U.S. military says it targeted Al- Shabaab fighters in the south of the country. No civilians were hurt or killed.

ALLEN: Al-Shabaab is linked to Al Qaeda. The U.S. says the airstrike came in response to an earlier militant attack on Somali government forces. Al-Shabaab also claimed responsibility for this week's terror attack in neighboring Kenya. At least 21 people were killed when gunmen stormed a Nairobi hotel complex.

HOWELL: Authorities are investigating and Somalis in Kenya are under scrutiny. Our Farai Sevenzo has more now from the capital of Kenya.


FARAI SEVENZO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since Al-Shabaab terrorists killed at least 21 people at a Nairobi hotel complex Tuesday, the investigation has escalated but many questions remain unanswered.

How did a Kenyan convert to Islam, Ali Salim Gichunge, remain undetected?

Police say they identified him through a car used in the attack and that all five extremists were eliminated. Five suspects are now being held in connection with the attack, according to authorities.

CNN visited what locals in the neighborhood of Ruaka say was Salim's rented house, 11 kilometers outside of Nairobi. This is where authorities suspect most of the planning took place. We were not allowed to film the gated Number E-9 area. We witnessed many policemen on the streets where the house stands.

And the story has understandably gripped the nation. Over 700 people were rescued from the Dusit complex on Nairobi's Riverside Drive as the terrorist attack unfolded on Tuesday.

Isa Kremgi (ph) is one of Kenya's Red Cross disaster response team and was one of first on the scene.

ISA KREMGI (PH), KENYA RED CROSS: (INAUDIBLE). For every victim that was in that place, that was left there, are 130 people still up there.

SEVENZO: And they're all contributing to this, what's happening?

KREMGI (PH): And they're all contributing.

SEVENZO: What are they saying?

KREMGI (PH): They say two of them are likely were pregnant before they stayed here (ph). The doctor now will tell them exactly what to do.

SEVENZO (voice-over): This is the bustling center for many of Nairobi's Somali community. Because of war in Somalia, many came here as refugees. Al-Shabaab, a Somalia-based terror group linked to Al Qaeda, has been known to recruit from here.

This street where we are is known as Kenya's little Mogadishu. In the hours after Tuesday's attack, security personnel would have been descending in these neighborhoods and looking for possible suspects.

Now the problem is, the Somalis that live here are Kenyan and they can sometimes be victims as well as treated as suspects.

Mohammed Abdullahi is a peace activist.

MOHAMMED ABDULLAHI, PEACE ACTIVIST: Guns are like, the horror to me is (INAUDIBLE) obvious (ph) because I'm from (INAUDIBLE) Shabaab. I'm anti-Shabaab.

SEVENZO (voice-over): On Friday before prayers, residents came out in their hundreds to condemn Tuesday's terror attack.

Hirsi Jama is a Somali community leader.

HIRSI JAMA, SOMALI COMMUNITY LEADER: It is very bad. Murder is unhappy (ph) because we are there. It is a disaster, killing innocent people. Those people, they were here, boom, boom. And they're pushing, get a gentleman to come out from Somalia. That's the angle that people. So what is they are killing today? Every day they are killing.

SEVENZO (voice-over): Farai Sevenzo, CNN, Eastleigh (ph), Nairobi, Kenya.


ALLEN: A mystery is washing up on Israel's beaches. Dozens of sea turtles and they are not in good shape. Coming up, how a rescue organization is working to save them.






ALLEN: Dozens of injured sea turtles are washing up on beaches along Israel's coast. It has been going on for weeks and no one knows why.

HOWELL: One group is doing whatever it takes to get the sea turtles back in swimming shape so they can be released back into the sea. Our Oren Liebermann has the story for you.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Speaking foreign language).

OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They called her Haya (ph) when she arrived, stranded on the beach of Ashdod. It means "alive." It was both a name and a hope.

The 80-kilogram loggerhead turtle was bleeding from her head and the staff at the Israel Sea Turtle Rescue Centre didn't know what kind of internal injuries she had.

Haya (ph) was the fourth turtle of the day to wash up on the shores of Israel and the 50th in two weeks.

YANIV LEVY, ISRAEL SEA TURTLE RESCUE CENTRE: I hope we will be able to treat all of them in the maximum way possible, best possible way we can.

LIEBERMANN (voice-over): It is not uncommon for strong storms to strand sea turtles on the shores of the eastern Mediterranean. What is uncommon is the injuries they now have.

Of the dozens of turtles found in the last week, more than 20 were already dead. Some of those found alive have fresh chips on their shell, others are bleeding, often there is internal damage, too. It is difficult to know why.

LEVY: They all suffer from soft tissue trauma that's coming from some kind of a shock wave. It could happen from either from facing (ph) surveys or explosives under water, if it is for military reasons or fishing. But it is not common.

LIEBERMANN (voice-over): The center calls this their intensive care unit. Turtles are brought here for their first checks and treatments. The tanks here are full, the tables already taken.

The center has moved turtles to find space for more turtles. They are beyond capacity. But they will not leave a turtle stranded. In six months, they hope the stranded turtles are healthy once again to release into the ocean.

LEVY: Turtles are kind of a mirror for what we are --


LEVY: doing. We get turtles with hooks and with multiple injuries and with plastics and sacks of food that are entangling, too, and it is our garbage and we just throw it to the sea.

LIEBERMANN (voice-over): Before they were done treating Haya (ph), the center got the call. One more stranded turtle had already been found -- Oren Liebermann, CNN, Central Israel.


ALLEN: Such a sad story.

HOWELL: It's good to see that work is being done.


HOWELL: Well, you know, the comedy skit show "Saturday Night Live" returned in the United States for the first time this year. And with all of the news that has been out and new material for them, they came out swinging.

ALLEN: Would they do anything else?

Alec Baldwin returned as Donald Trump, who had to play the game show, "Deal or No Deal." This time it was a deal to end the government shutdown.


KENAN THOMPSON, ACTOR, "STEVE HARVEY": Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Nancy, how are you feeling tonight?

KATE MCKINNON, ACTOR, "NANCY PELOSI": Just normal, not like drunk on my own power or anything.

"HARVEY": Deal or no deal, Mr. President?

Remember, every time you choose no deal, half a million federal employees work another day without getting paid.

ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR, " DONALD TRUMP": Cool story, bro, no deal.

No wait, I want to open the case, from the Clemson football player.

"HARVEY": OK. That's not a briefcase. That's a crave case from White Castle.

"TRUMP": I still would like to have him open it, Steve.

"HARVEY": Oh, my God. OK, fine, open the case, please.



"TRUMP": Oh, Steve, I haven't eaten a hamburger in 15 minutes. I'm going to make that deal.

"HARVEY": You're ending the shutdown for a hamburger?

Well, I guess that makes as much sense as anything else that's going on these days.


ALLEN: Thanks for watching. I'm Natalie Allen.

HOWELL: I'm George Howell. More news after the break. Stay with us.