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SNL Offers Trump A Game Show Style Shutdown Deal; Atlanta MLK National Park Reopens Thanks to Grant From Delta; New Gillette Ad Takes on Bullying and Toxic Masculinity; Trump Offers Dream Deal in Return for Wall Funding; MAGA Hat Teens Taunt Native American at Indigenous Peoples March; Nearly 50 Million People Under Winter Weather Alerts. Aired 7-8a ET

Aired January 20, 2019 - 07:00   ET


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- something they didn't have to think about.

[07:00:03] It looked as though in the case of Kurt Cobain, he did his shopping at second-hand stores.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was the beginning of vintage becoming popular and in today's world, vintage becoming expensive.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's coming in stores like this and doing your thing and putting it altogether.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These guys weren't trying to create a fashion trend. They had put all their heart and soul into music. They didn't have money to buy stuff. They are thrifting and, eventually, because of the power of their music, it transformed from what was not intended to be a fashion movement to truly a worldwide sensation.



DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is a common sense compromise both parties should embrace.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Trump now offering to extend temporary DACA protections in exchange for more than $5.5 billion for a border barrier.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can't negotiate by keeping the government hostage.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want 5 billion for my border wall and in exchange I'll extend DACA, and I'll release the kids from cages so they can be free-range kids.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A mob of MAGA hat-wearing high school students surrounding a Native American.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see that group of people in front of me and I see the angry faces and all of that, I realized I had put myself in a really dangerous situation. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY WEEKEND with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.


A nonstarter. That is what Democrats call President Trump's offer to reopen the government before he even officially made the offer.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes. The president put forward a three- year deal to protect immigrants brought to the U.S. by parents. In exchange for that, he would get his border wall funding.


TRUMP: This is a common sense compromise both parties should embrace.


BLACKWELL: Well, the Democrats did not embrace it. They held the line, urging the president to drop the wall demand and reopen the government. Now, on the other side, hard liner in the president's own party said he had gone too far, offering what they say is an amnesty deal.

PAUL: OK. So, look, what happens next at this point. Let's go to CNN national correspondent Kristen Holmes live at the White House.

What are you hearing from there this morning, Kristen?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi and Victor, the hope here is that this will bring both sides to the negotiating table. As they stand, these Democratic bills, as well as this proposal from President Trump are essentially dead on arrival. Mitch McConnell has said he will not bring anything to the floor that President Trump won't sign off on. President has said he will only sign off on something that has border wall funding, and House Democrats say they aren't proposing any bills that have that funding. Now, as far as the president's proposal goes, Democrats, as you said, calling it a nonstarter.

But I want to take a step back here and look at what exactly was in this proposal and, of course, it is a negotiation, so let's talk about it in terms of what everybody gets. President Trump getting 2,750 border agents as well as law enforcement professionals, 75 new immigration judges, but still, again, that $5.7 billion for a physical border wall.

Democrats getting, as you mentioned, that three years of extended protection for Dreamers and for those with temporary protected services as well as $805 million in drug detection technology.

Now Democrats, of course, already say they don't like this and many enraged because of the fact that President Trump is the one who ended that DACA program, the one who ended that TPS program in the first place.

I want to pull up here a statement from Nancy Pelosi. You take a look here, and I just want to read the last line. For one thing, the proposal does not include the permanent solution for Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and deserves.

So this was really the worst of both worlds for President Trump. Did not move the ball forward on the shutdown and, in addition to that, angered his far right base who is calling this plan amnesty. So, the big hope, again, is not necessarily just that it will open the government immediately but, instead, that this at least brings everyone to the negotiating table. Back to you.

PAUL: All righty. Kristen Holmes, thank you so much.

BLACKWELL: All right. We have to fact check the president's speech yesterday because there were several misleading statements. Let's start with this one.


TRUMP: There is a humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border that requires urgent action.


BLACKWELL: All right. So, in 2018, there were about 397,000 people who were stopped at the southern border. That is near 2017's historic low when the number was around 300,000. Now, let's compare that to the early 2000s when almost 1 million people were caught every year.

[07:05:01] Now this one.


TRUMP: Walls are not immoral. In fact, they are the opposite of a moral because they will save many lives and stop drugs from pouring into our country.


BLACKWELL: OK. Stopping drugs from pouring into the country. The president claimed that heroin, alone, kills 300 Americans a week, 90 percent of which comes across the southern border. That was his claim.

Now, the order is correct. The number of deaths, but Trump's claim, the president's claims that a border wall will prevent this is false, because according to the DEA, a majority of the heroin that comes across the southern border is smuggled in privately owned vehicles and tractor-trailers at legal points of entry.

Here is Glenn Kessler's take on the idea of that wall would cut crime and drugs. Here is "The Washington Post" chief fact checker. This is what he tweeted: Even after two years of Trump, I still am amazed that a line like this would end up in an official speech. Statements with no credibility undermine everything else in the speech.


PAUL: CNN political commentator Errol Louis, political anchor for Spectrum News, and CNN senior media correspondent Brian Stelter, host of "RELIABLE SOURCES".

Good morning, gentlemen.


PAUL: With us here to have a little conversation. Good to see you this Sunday.

So, Errol, let's listen together here to Congressman Jim Himes because he says he saw a bright spot in all of this.

OK. I apologize. We don't have that. I want to read you what he said.

It is a nonstarter but let's step away because I think there is some good news to be gleaned from this and that is this, there is a negotiation going on.

Errol, the president made this announcement after Pelosi rejected it. Is there a negotiation going on?

ERROL LOUIS, POLITICAL ANCHOR, SPECTRUM NEWS: Yes, I don't think so. The congressman is entitled to his optimism and that is probably a good thing in general in life, I suppose. But the reality is the Democrats and Republicans are very far apart. And there's very little room to see where they're going to sort of get together.

I mean, what would probably be a more realistic attitude, I think, is that the American people are not going to allow the government to remain shut for too much longer. The trash piling up in the national parks, the humanitarian problems, coast guard families showing up at bread lines, nonprofit organizations not getting the resources they need for things like feeding seniors and increasingly low income families, it's simply not going to be sustainable much longer. And I think that is probably the only good news that to me suggests they are going to arrive at some kind of accommodation in the future.

PAUL: They have to for these people.

Brian, let's listen to the president, because there is one thing he said that has -- might be having people say, are we moving? Are we evolving here in some way here? Listen to this what he said about the wall.


TRUMP: This is not a 2,000-mile concrete structure from sea-to-sea. These are steel barriers in high priority locations.

(END VIDEO CLIP) PAUL: OK. So, he is backing down on the wall, the wall, the wall, the wall, not from one side to the other, necessarily. Is there a possibility that will move the needle in any way?

STELTER: I say something I rarely say. Trump is being more honest on this particular issue. Typically, there is a lot of dishonesty when he talks about immigration. He is trying to be very threatening with his language, but he is being more honest what border patrol agents actually want and what is realistic at the border.

Obviously, there's lots of barriers across the borders and lots of areas without barriers. Trump wants more barriers instead of "the wall", which was a concept made up to keep him on his message in the campaign trail in 2015. He is talking in a more honest way what would be installed here, 230 miles of barrier according to this proposal.

I think he was trying to set the Sunday agenda by giving this speech on Saturday afternoon, but I'm not sure it worked. As you mentioned in the setup here, we are already seeing some Trump's far right wing supporters criticize him. Ann Coulter, for example, saying we voted for Trump but we got Jeb instead. And Ann Coulter is not the only one saying that. Steve King, the congressman who's being in the news recently for being denounced for his racist statement, he is calling this proposal amnesty and he is criticizing Trump for it. Other far right figures are as well.

And the headlines in "The New York Times" front page this morning says Trump is trying tock beyond his base but no one is happy as a result. So, I wonder if he is going to react to the backlash to this proposal he had set out.

In the meantime, let's be honest, this program NEW DAY is doing more to show leadership than the president is now. Victor is calling for food banks -- to try to get people to donate to food banks. That is leadership and they did in huge numbers. The president didn't acknowledge those workers yesterday in his speech. He didn't even acknowledge the pain and suffering the shutdown is causing in his speech yesterday.

[07:20:03] PAUL: So, here's that other thing, Errol, as we watch all this play out, President Trump promised change in Washington. Yet, he is saying you cannot have any shutdown being alleviated without my border. The two don't go together. They -- when you're putting two separate issues in one bill, that is not a change in Washington, is it?

LOUIS: Well, it certainly is disruption. That was the big thing that he did promise coming into office was that he is going to shake things up and those who voted for him said we need to end business as usual.

Well, we have ended business as usual. We have ended business of all kind. We have shut down the government. The president now is trying to substantively negotiate the wall, at the same time this increasingly larger issue of what to do with hundreds of thousands of federal workers and their families who are now going through these kind of personal problems, as well as larger economic crisis that spills out from it.

So this is what the president wanted. I don't think anybody who supported him could claim to be surprised at this point. Of course, looming over all of this is put aside the fact that Mexico was supposed to pay for this wall. Looming over all of this is why during the last two years there was unified Republican control, why wasn't he going on television? Why wasn't he offering these kind of deals? Why, on the other hand, were Republicans, including those from border districts, consistently rejecting these ideas?

PAUL: Errol Louis and Brian Stelter, we appreciate both of you gentlemen so much. Thank you for being around.

And listen, Brian is around. Stelter is going to be here, of course, for "RELIABLE SOURCES" later this afternoon, 11:00 a.m. Eastern today, right here on CNN.

BLACKWELL: President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani is Jake Tapper's guest later this morning on "STATE OF THE UNION". Also, joining Jake, 2020 hopeful, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. "STATE OF THE UNION" at 9:00 and noon, right here on CNN.

PAUL: There is a disturbing video out there online that shows a group of teens harassing a Native American elder and Vietnam War veteran. It's gone viral. That veteran is speaking to CNN, what he is saying.

BLACKWELL: Plus, several homes destroyed. The people who live there pulled from the wreckage after a tornado, yes a tornado in mid-January ripped through the southeast. We will have the latest on the weather that is just making a mess across the country.


[07:16:34] PAUL: Well, a Native American elder and Vietnam War veteran is talking to CNN after a disturbing viral video shows a group of teens harassing and mocking him in Washington.

BLACKWELL: Here is the video that is garnering so much outrage online. Nathan Phillips, he's on the right and beating his drum and singing American Indian protest song. This was Friday on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial when he saw a clash erupting between a group of teenagers and four African-American young men he says are preaching about the bible and oppression.

PAUL: Phillips says he immediately sensed a danger.


NATHAN PHILLIPS, NATIVE AMERICAN ELDER/VIETNAM WAR VETERAN: When I was there and standing there and I seen that group of people in front of me and seen the angry faces and all of that, I realized I had put myself in a really dangerous situation, you know? It was like, here is a group of people who were angry at somebody else and I put myself in front of that and, all of a sudden, I'm the one who is all of that anger and all of that wanting to have the freedom just to rip me apart, you know? That was scary. And I -- I'm a Vietnam times veteran and I know that mentality of there is enough of us, we can do this.


BLACKWELL: Then, Phillip described the moment. He said they were pretty tense that you're seeing being played over and over online, when a young man got right in his face. This is what he said about that.


PHILLIPS: When I started going forward and that massive groups of people started separating and separating and moving aside to allow me to move out of the way or proceed, this young fellow put himself in front of me and wouldn't move. And so if I took another step, I would be putting my person into his presence, into his space, and I would have touched him, and that would have been the thing that the group of people would of needed to spring on me.


PAUL: Well, CNN's Sara Sidner asked Phillips what bothered him most about Friday's confrontation.


PHILLIPS: Fear. Not for myself, but fear for the next generations, fear where this country is going. Fear for those youths, fear for their future, fear for their souls, their spirit, their -- what they are going to do to this country. What they were doing wasn't making America great, it was just tearing down the fabric that was -- that the whole idea, the spirit of America, that wasn't it. You know?


BLACKWELL: Well, newly elected Representative Deb Haaland is among the first Native American elected to Congress and she reacted to Twitter this way. This veteran put his life on the line for our country. The students display of blatant hate, disrespect and intolerance is a signal of how common decency has decayed under this administration.

[07:20:03] Heartbreaking.

PAUL: CNN did reach out to the school that the teens attend. The school has not returned any phone calls, voice mails, or emails just yet.

BLACKWELL: But they did delete their Facebook and blocked their Twitter page. The Roman Diocese of Covington has condemned the actions.

PAUL: I don't know what you're seeing outside your window right now, but take a look what's happening in Alabama. Just wild weather slamming not only the Southeast but the Northeast. And we are hearing reports of tornadoes, yes, tornadoes in January, with some damaging winds whipping across Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama. But that is one street in Alabama.

BLACKWELL: Yes. And so, while you're seeing all this in the south, there is an inch of ice and an additional foot of snow that's causing problems in the Northeast.

CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar in the CNN weather center with the latest.

How often do we see tornadoes in mid January in the South?

ALLISON CHINCHAR, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It's rare. Although if it's going to occur, it was likely to be in the Southeast. But, again, even for this area, it is rare in January. Their peak is more in the spring, March, April, May, those typical months.

But we did -- we had actually not one but three reported tornadoes from this system that slid through yesterday. Numerous wind reports causing tree limbs and things like that to come down as well. But we also had storm reports further north from the same system but those were a different type of report. Those were actually snow reports and some of them quite significant.

Two Rivers, Wisconsin, which is just on the side of Lake Michigan, picking up over a foot of snow. The Buffalo Airport in New York picking up nearly a foot of snow. The key there is that it's still snowing across much of Upstate New York, including areas of Buffalo.

It's also snowing heavily across areas of Vermont, New Hampshire, ice, freezing rain, sleet for Massachusetts, New York, as well as Connecticut. We do still expect additional snow on top of what we have already had. The highest amounts are for portions of interior New England and especially off to the north.

Ice is also still going to come down and accumulate for cities like Portland, stretching down towards Boston and it could be an additional half of an inch on top of what has already fallen. This will still likely cause travel delays for places like Boston and New York even today and potentially tomorrow because look at this, Victor and Christi, see all of this cold air coming in? That is going to keep all of that snow and all of that ice in place for days, not to mention look at this, over 50 million people under a wind chill advisory going forward because of how cold those temperatures are going to be in the next 24 hours.

PAUL: Wow. All right. Buckle up there.

BLACKWELL: All of the good news Allison Chinchar has for us this morning. All of this good news.

PAUL: Just stay in. Light a fire. You know? Stay in your PJs. You're allowed, right?

That is not what CNN correspondent Polo Sandoval is doing.

BLACKWELL: No. PAUL: He might be in his PJs on that. I don't have any idea under that coat. But he is in Hartford, Connecticut. He -- I don't know if he wants to get out of the car.

But how are the roads there this morning, Polo?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Christi and Victor. Let's get you some pictures now to go with the description that Allison just laid out for you. These are the streets of Hartford, Connecticut, as you mentioned.

If people aren't iced in, they are certainly snowed in some parts of the city here. We have seen snowplows working through the night and this morning. So far, of course, they focus on some of the main streets. Not necessarily on some of these neighborhood roads.

But, yes, you will see them from time to time. The main warning right now that is coming from officials, not just here in Hartford but really throughout the Northeast for millions of people affected by this is stay inside if you can. Of course, we are able to use our roving vehicle to safely provide you the pictures of what this situation is like for many people here in the Northeast.

None of this snow was here yesterday. The snow moving in overnight and then turn into some of that precipitation which froze and that is a big concern here, those frigid temperatures. It is what comes after the snowstorm that really worries people because there is that potential for ice, not just on tree limbs, but also on power lines and that is why for the last few days, we have seen utility crews staged throughout the Northeast ready to move in when and if some of those blackouts begin to be reported.

Finally, I should mention, bringing it back to Connecticut here when Ned Lamont, the governor of the state, activated his emergency operation center. It is active right now as they monitor the situation. But again, the main warning from everybody, Christi and Victor, from officials, if you don't have to be out in this, stay home. It's a Sunday morning.

BLACKWELL: And you're not in your PJs under all of that?




PAUL: Want to be, though. Thank you, Polo.

BLACKWELL: Polo Sandoval, thanks so much.

SANDOVAL: You bet.

BLACKWELL: It was President Trump versus Congress on "Saturday Night Live" in "deal or no deal government shutdown" edition.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Earlier in the day you went on TV and you told the American people that you want to make a deal.

[07:25:05] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's right, Steve.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. So we decided to do this in the only format that you can understand. A TV game show with women holding briefcases.



BLACKWELL: All right. Today starts another week without any guarantee of a paycheck for federal workers because of this partial government shutdown. President Trump is offering the Democrats a deal. Temporary legal protections for Dreamers in exchange for full funding. The $5.7 billion for his border barrier.

PAUL: The Democrats say they are not buying, though. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling the proposal a nonstarter. Now, as lawmakers in Washington quibble, "Saturday Night Live" has their own spin-off on the shut down.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In your briefcase here, you got the deal that Congress offered you in December.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I said no deal!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Nobody was excited about that.

What is your counteroffer to date?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want 5 billion for my border wall and in exchange I'll extend DACA, and I release the kids so they can be free- range kids.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. My offer is, whatever you want.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chuck, we're not doing it anymore. Remember, we are not caving in?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right, right, yes, projecting strength. OK. Let me put on my fiery red cheetahs.

OK. My new offer is $15 and a pastrami on rye. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, deal or no deal, Mr. President. Remember, every time you choose no deal, half a million federal employees work another day without getting paid.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aha, cool story, bro. No deal.


CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: All right. CNN's Brian Stelter is with us now.

Brian, they always seem to cleverly figure out how to make it happen.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN HOST, RELIABLE SOURCES: I was wondering who would be playing Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer now that the Democrats have some power in Washington. "SNL" is adapting to that. But I thought "Deal or No Deal" was the perfect framing to look at the shutdown.

You know, "SNL" has been off for a month, so they have not weighed in on the shutdown yet. This was really the perfect way to do it. And, of course, this is all coming on the exact two-year anniversary of President Trump's inauguration. I'm starting to think government shutdowns are his anniversary present or his anniversary wish or something, because you think back to the one year anniversary of President Trump's inauguration this day last year, we were also in a government shutdown.

That one, of course, was very short compared to this very long one we are going through now, but two years in a row, the government shutdown on the anniversary of President Trump's inauguration.

Look, I'm just glad the "SNL" are here to make us laugh. Think about what happened this week. Burger King made fun the president. Burger King, a hamburger chain. They put on a tweet for the president misspelling hamburgers on Twitter.

And Burger King wasn't the only brand out there having fun at the president's expense. Netflix announced a comedy based on the idea of a space force. The president talks about wanting a space force, Netflix is doing a show all about the workers of the space force.

So, you have all of these companies and comedians having fun with this stuff. Look, I want to say thank you for making us laugh what is otherwise a very serious time.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, it certainly is. And "SNL" we know can move public opinion on people and policy. Brian Stelter, thanks so much.

STELTER: Thanks.

PAUL: Thank you.

So the government shutdown, of course, it's affecting several projects at national parks across the country for this weekend for Martin Luther King Jr. holiday and it's really hitting home for the family itself this year.

BLACKLWELL: Martin Luther King III joins us next along with his daughter Yolanda King. They will be with us in a moment.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I tell people my story, they don't believe it, but it's true.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What would it be like if you turned the corner one day and you saw yourself?



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The first time the boys met, the three together, it was a miracle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was nothing that could keep us apart.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's when things kind of got funky.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Something was not right. I'd like to know the truth.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was always a question mark.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The parents had never been told.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are trying to conceal what they did from the people they did it to.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's still so much that we don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How could you not tell us?

ANNOUNCER: "Three Identical Strangers", next Sunday at 9:00 Eastern on CNN.



BLACKWELL: Twenty-two minutes until the top of the hour.

The nation is preparing to celebrate Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Now, Atlanta's national historical park honoring Dr. King was initially partially closed because of the government shutdown. It's a national park but it was reopened in time for the holiday, thanks to a grant from Delta Airlines.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Now, there are other national parks across the country that are affected by the shutdown. It's derailed some of day of service projects that were supposed to happen in those parks.

Well, Martin Luther King III, the eldest son of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and his daughter Yolanda Renee King, the granddaughter of Dr. King, are with us now.

Thank you both for being here.



PAUL: So, I want to ask you about the fact that Delta stepped up and opened these parts of the center that were going to be closed. What did that mean to you when you had you heard that? Can you take us into that moment?

MARTIN LUTHER KING III: Well, number one, I'm not sure we knew that that was going to happen. I think Bernice perhaps had been in dialogue with others. So, it is remarkable that that is able to happen because the holiday doesn't change its date. It's coming and it's going to be here Monday and looming large and I think will be open through the Super Bowl. But hopefully the government will be open way before then.

BLACKWELL: Martin, there was a moment I saw that was tweeted out which your sister became a little emotional at the start of the week in talking about the center, you know, preparing for the week celebration, but that some of the park services workers would not be there to celebrate potentially because of the shutdown.

[07:40:00] What are your feelings about this shutdown, those workers, and their importance to the operation of the center that pays tribute to your father?

MARTIN LUTHER KING III: Well, we have had a long-term relationship with the National Park Service and it's almost like family. So, you feel like your family is not able to partake in the activity, so this is phenomenal that this has happened. And so, it's easy to understand why one can become emotional because it's almost like saying, well, they can't be there, although they have been there all of these years. So this is actually incredible.

PAUL: Yolanda, I want to get you in the conversation here. I want to play just a little bit to remind our viewers here of part of your speech last year at March for Our Lives when you were just 9 years old. Let's listen together here.


YOLANDA RENEE KING: My grandfather had a dream that his four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the concept of their character. I have a dream that enough is enough!



PAUL: So, when you look back at that, Yolanda, if you could be back on that stage today, is there anything -- what would you say if you were standing on that stage today in front of all of those people? Would you say anything differently?

YOLANDA RENEE KING: I probably would say the same, because -- but maybe a little bit more because situations are happening more like everywhere and instead of things getting better, things are getting a little more out of control, and we need to settle down.

BLACKWELL: Yolanda, your dad tweeted out a video earlier this month, just a couple of days ago, actually. This was a video that was recorded back in August at the 55th anniversary of your grandfather's "I Have A Dream" speech and you were with some kids at the border in San Diego and you said it was important to be there on that anniversary. Why was it important for you to be with kids at the border on the 55th anniversary of the "I Have A Dream" speech?

YOLANDA RENEE KING: Well, my parents and I decided that we wanted to spend the 50th anniversary and 55th anniversary at the border to show the children of all what is going on, so we decided to go up there and we decided to meet kids that are about our age. We didn't get to meet the kids in the cages because they were at school, but we did get to meet some kids from schools, so I went up there and visited with them and we had a little ceremony.

PAUL: Martin, as a father listening to your daughter talk about this and what she has seen and what is her hope, what you have seen together, as a father, talk to us about what that does to you.

MARTIN LUTHER KING III: Well, number one, you want your child to develop in the best way that they can and my wife and I have not put pressure on Yolanda. We want -- Yolanda already has her own mind made up from day one when she was very small, she was very interested in homelessness and eradicated homelessness. She's always been interested in injustice.

And so, we are so grateful and thankful because she is the only grandkid of Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King. And so, she already has a spirit of activism within. And that certainly makes us feel very, very good. We're not going to push her at all but we want to support her in whatever way we can and hopefully it will manifest itself in some level of a leadership role.

BLACKWELL: Martin, the holiday, as you know obviously, is tomorrow. What's the best way from your family's perspective to pay tribute to honor the work, the memory, the legacy of Dr. King?

MARTIN LUTHER KING III: Well, my mom often said it's really a day on, not a day off. So, although it's a holiday, which means maybe kick back and relaxing, it really is more of a day that we should be engaged in service, and particularly -- particularly this year. I don't know how we got to the point where we would stop paying workers, our government would shut down.

If someone wants to build a wall, we can build a wall and people work at the same time. I don't understand how we got to this point and I don't understand why we've not resolved this. It seems if Congress could override of a veto of a president and president still be able to work on a wall if that's what the president wants to do at some point.

But it's very strategic. It feels bad to go through an airport. It feels bad -- our Coast Guard is not working. Our first line of defense -- they're not being paid. I mean, something has got to change and give for the United States of

America. We are far better than the behavior we are exhibiting. And so, I think we've got to be engaged in all kinds of service throughout this holiday and really throughout the year. Not just this year, which is dad would have been 90 years old.

[07:45:01] It's hard to imagine he would have been 90.

PAUL: Yes. So, not a day off but a day on.



PAUL: I like that.

Martin Luther King III, Yolanda Renee King, thank you both for being here.



PAUL: Absolutely.

And, listen, as we talk about the holiday, we talk about equality, there was a lot of anger online and calls for boycotts this week when razor company Gillette released what is now a viral ad. The ad actually, is it attacking man? Is it calling out toxic masculinity as has been the criticism? Coming up, we are talking with a community organizer who works in violence prevention to ask -- what do you see in this ad?


PAUL: Forty-nine minutes past the hour.

I don't know if you saw this, this week but there's a commercial from razor company Gillette. And it has sparked some passionate debate.

[07:50:01] Not about grooming or personal hygiene but about bullying and masculinity.

Take a look at this.


AD NARRATOR: Is this the best a man can get? Is it? We can't hide from it.


PAUL: Lee Giordano, the director of education and training at Men Stopping Violence, is with us now.

As we talk about the male voice in the #metoo movement in what we see happening today. The argument -- there was a lot of passion, I say, because the argument from some people is that this was an attack on masculinity.

In fact, Piers Morgan tweeted: I'm so sick of this war on masculinity and I'm not alone. With their pathetic man-hating ad, Gillette have just cut their own throat. Let boys be damn boys, let men be damn men.

What's your take on that? What do you say to him?

LEE GIORDANO, DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION & TRAINING, MEN STOPPING VIOLENCE: That sounds like the critique in the video that this message of boys will be boys is part of what perpetuates the problem of bullying and violence against women. I saw something very different.

PAUL: Yes, what did you see when you saw it?

GIORDANO: I was inspired. I was motivated. I felt like it was a call to action. This is one of the few times I've seen in mass media positive images of men doing the right thing.

We had our organization -- our movement has often criticized the media for only advertising to men by objectifying women or demeaning us. And instead here, we have an advertisement that shows men doing the right thing, intervene with other men in caring and compassionate ways.

PAUL: I remember seeing a couple of years ago a study where -- and it was affiliated with men stopping violence, where they talked to men in prison who had been convicted of domestic violence and they said why did you keep, you know, beating your wife or doing what you're doing. And he said, well, no guy told me not to.


PAUL: What is the value of the male voice, the influence of the male voice, the power in these conversations?

GIORDANO: Yes, so what we saw in the advertisement is that from a very young age, boys are getting messages from adult men and from their peers about how you should act. How do you become a man? And a lot of those messages relate to being in control, being powerful, being dominant.

And so not only are men not intervening or not telling men they shouldn't use abusive behavior, they're doing the exact opposite of saying that to be a man, to be in control is really what you should be doing and will define you as a man.

PAUL: I want to show you another tweet that was out here in the last day or two. Well, in the last 24 hours, from Zach Braff. He said: Gillette, how soon can you guys get down there?

And he was retweeting a story regarding Covington Catholic high school boys mocking an elder with the Omaha tribe Nathan Phillips in Washington on Friday that happened. What do you say to that situation? How do you deal with those boys

that we saw standing face-to-face, that one in particular, who seemed to be taunting Mr. Phillips?

GIORDANO: Yes, that was a horrifying situation. And what we know in those situations are that there are men who are uncomfortable with what's happening who are too afraid to speak out because they are afraid of the violence or the derogatory comments targeted towards them.

So, what I would say is, you know, if you were uncomfortable with that, in that organization or in that situation, then speak up. That's what we need. And that's really the call to action. Men Stopping Violence is putting out there and that was mirrored in the Gillette commercial.

PAUL: Yes, the power of men and their voices. Lee Giordano, thanks so much for being with me.

GIORDANO: Thank you.

PAUL: Appreciate it. With Men Stopping Violence.

We'll be right back.



[07:58:24] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's 6:10 a.m. I'm a little tired. Worked late last night, but I'm on my way to go work out with my friends at November Project.

November Project is a free fitness movement, but at its heart it's a community of people that come together multiple times a week in the morning to work out and support each other.

WALT THOMPSON, AMERICAN COLLEGE OF SPORTS MEDICINE: We have seen a resurgence of group exercise. And the reason we think that's true is because people are looking for this kind of group dynamic and this social support that goes along with groups.

STEIN ESSER, HEALTH SCIENCE CONSULTANT: I didn't really know how to meet people or make these connections, right? We live in a time where like people are always just kind of plugged into their phones. November Project and other groups like them use social media as an accountability tool to encourage other people to go to their workouts.

THOMPSON: As soon as you'd say, yes, I'm going to be there. Then that improves compliance rates because you've made a commitment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give them a hug and give them a verbal, I see you at the next workout.

ESSER: This is something we all can do and it's really brought us all together. (END VIDEOTAPE)

BLACKWELL: Prince Philip has been caught on cam doing something he shouldn't be, driving without a seat belt. These pictures were taken less than 48 hours after the 97-year-old royal crashed into a car carrying two women and a baby boy.

PAUL: The police say the prince has been given, quote, suitable words of advice. Don't know what that means. And a Buckingham Palace source said Prince Philip passed an eyesight test following the crash. Buckingham Palace hasn't responded to the latest photographs yet.

All right. And with that, we want to say we hope you make good memories today.

BLACKWELL: "INSIDE POLITICS" with John King starts right now.