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Five Days Away Now From Another Potential Government Shutdown If Lawmakers Cannot Reach A Deal To Fund The U.S. Government; Senator Amy Klobuchar Is Expected To Announce Her Candidacy There From Minneapolis, Minnesota Right Along The Mississippi River; U.S. Senator Cory Booker Is In South Carolina; Senator Elizabeth Warren Is Crisscrossing The State In Here First Full Day Of Campaigning As A Declared Presidential Candidate; Jury Deliberations For The Trial For Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Head Into A Second Week Tomorrow; Teachers At Denver's Public Schools Are Set To Go On Strike. Aired 2-3p ET
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[14:00:16] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me this Sunday. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.
We just five days away now from another potential government shutdown if lawmakers cannot reach a deal to fund the U.S. government. And optimism that bipartisan negotiations revealed acceptable to both sides has given away too, now concern.
Sources tell CNN partisan talks have reached a standstill and concern is growing that a deal won't be reached by the Friday deadline. White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney making it clear this morning that another painful shutdown could be looming.
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CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST, MEET THE PRESS DAILY: So is it fair to say that whatever Congress hands him he will sign, he just may not be enthusiastic about it?
MICK MULVANEY, ACTING CHIEF OF STAFF: No, I don't think so.
TODD: You are not ready to go there. You cannot definitively -- we cannot definitively rule out a government shutdown by the end of this week?
MULVANEY: You absolutely cannot.
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WHITFIELD: And despite the ticking clock, some lawmakers are holding out hope that a deal can come together.
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REP. LIZ CHENEY (Y), WYOMING: I certainly hope we're not headed for another shutdown. I think the President has been clear and the Republicans in the House have certainly been clear that we absolutely got to secure the border. I'm hopeful that this committee will be able to come up with a proposal that we all can support, that the President can sign.
REP. JON TESTER (D-MD), BIPARTISAN CONFERENCE COMMITTEE: We are not in a point where we can announce a deal. Negotiations are still going on. There are good people on this committee. So I have confidence that hopefully, we will get something done pretty soon.
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WHITFIELD: And as we wait to see how negotiations play out on Capitol Hill, another Democrat is jumping into the race for U.S. President. Soon Senator Amy Klobuchar will take to the stage in a very snowy subfreezing rally in Minneapolis to make her big announcement. It is just 14 degrees there now with a few flurries in the air. She will join the crowded group of Democrats hoping to beat President Trump in next year's election. We will bring her comments to you live as it happens.
So let's get started with CNN's White House correspondent Boris Sanchez.
So the President is getting ready to make a trip to the border tomorrow, but is that what's top of the line, the border, or is it the potential for another government shutdown?
BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Both will certainly be part of the President's rally tomorrow in El Paso, Texas, Fred. Here we are yet, again, counting down the days to another potential government shutdown over the President's long promised border wall.
Republicans and Democrats, we are hearing from sources are at yet another impasse, this time over a disagreement about the number of beds that Democrats are trying to limit that Republicans want in ICE detention centers. Republicans have balked at the figures that Democrats have offered up. Democrats, meantime, have argued that they have made concessions on other issues that Republicans wants such as funding for the President's border barrier.
The acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was asked about what he thought the most likely outcome was. Here was his answer on a Sunday morning talk show.
TODD: Whatever he sure of, is he going to find the money somewhere else? Is that what we should we expect?
MULVANEY: I think that is fair. That is probably the most likely outcome. Again, you cannot take the shutdown off the table and you cannot take $5.7 billion off the table, but if you end up someplace in the middle, yes, then what you probably see as the President say, yes OK, and then I will go find the money somewhere else.
TODD: You have been looking for the money and the budget. MULVANEY: I haven't.
TODD: There is this national emergency. Are the two the same thing or different? Do you find money without declaring a national emergency or do you need to declare the national emergency to use sums of money?
MULVANEY: The answer to the question is both. There is certain sums of money that are available to the President, to any President. And there is pots of money where presidents, all presidents have access to without a national emergency. And there are ones that he will not have access to without that declaration.
SANCHEZ: Meantime, Fred, President Trump has been busy on twitter, blasting Democrats suggesting that they are being held back by their congressional leadership, and that they have had a bad week because of his positive reviews for the state if the union address and because of the ongoing controversies surrounding the leadership in the state of -- in the commonwealth of Virginia, I should say.
We have heard from sources as far as how Democrats want to move forward on this, that they would potentially present a bill in the House of Representatives that would fund the department of homeland security through September and other government agencies. No telling whether Republicans would actually take that up in the Senate, though, Fred.
WHITFIELD: All right. Boris Sanchez, thank you so much from the white House. Keep us posted.
All right. Let's talk more about this. Joining me right now, congressional reporter for the "Washington Post" Karoun Demirjian and national political reporter for the "Washington Examiner' Salena Zito. Good to see you both.
All right. So Karoun, you first. What happened to all that optimism leading into the weekend?
KAROUN DEMIRJIAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, leading into the weekend you really had people heading into the most intense part of the negotiations. And it seemed through the weekend like they might be hovering towards - getting towards a deal that hovered around that $2 billion figure for the border.
But it's interesting that the border wall itself is not really what is the main sticking point here and that it's this additional issue of the detention centers and their capacity that is really making these on the ground. I think it is timing, really, you know. There is a big difference between the Friday before the really crunch weekend and negotiations and they will coming out of it, knowing what the Senate schedule is and the procedural jujitsu (ph) that has to happen to get any bill across the floor, how little time there actually is.
So I don't think anybody is saying, OK, strap and guaranteed government shutdown now, but it's more of a possibility than it was last week. And I know, I think everybody remembers the very recent history of how dramatic and difficult that last shutdown was. It didn't go well for anybody, especially not the President. So that's why you are not hearing people speak of it in tones that are embracing the idea, but it's back on the table as a possibility.
[14:05:52] WHITFIELD: So Salena, detention centers, it's also down to wall funding, you know. The President has threatened this national emergency time and time again, but you heard Mick Mulvaney who says it's really not that simple. There is some money that is available nearly immediately and then some money that he would have to seek approval as a result of this declaration of national emergency. So, is there any way in which to detect where the priorities are for the President?
SALENA ZITO, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Well, you know, I think he wants a win, but I also think both the President and the Senate in the House also do not want to go through this shutdown again. I don't think anybody benefited from it very well. Supporters might say, you know, the President might have loved it or supporters for the Democrats might have loved it, you know, for saying, you know, we are fighting. They are fighting for the things that we believe in. But at the end of the day it helped no one and it just sort of kept that idea that Washington doesn't work prominent in the minds of voters.
WHITFIELD: Right. Still at issue was funding for the wall. The President has said, you know, he wants that $5.7 billion, but is he indicating that he has, you know, that he is willing to budge on that?
WHITFIELD: Yes? How?
ZITO: Absolutely. I think so. So when you saw Mick Mulvaney, who is the acting chief of staff, as well as North Carolina Congressman Mark Meadows, who is the chairman of the freedom caucus, very conservative wing of the Republican Party, both have said today on the Sunday shows, you know, he is going to get his money one way or the other.
I feel like that "or the other" was that wiggle room. That I don't know if we know what that is. But it tells us that the potential for a shutdown doesn't happen. And that there's other ways that the President is exploring to get what he wants.
WHITFIELD: So Karoun, you know, Democrats have said, and particularly Nancy Pelosi has said, you know, there is no - there is no money for, you know, the wall. She, you know, joked that maybe she just give $1, you know, in the past several reports suggesting that latest negotiations center around this $2 billion figure for border barriers. The President has in the past said he doesn't want to budge. Is this the occasion in which perhaps he might?
DEMIRJIAN: Well, like Salena was referencing, he can budge if he thinks he has other money elsewhere, and that's what Mick Mulvaney seems to be saying, more than a hint really, this morning, almost saying that's what he was going to do. That in that situation, it behooves the President to take the deal as long he can take the deal and meet in some phase. $2 billion is more than the $1.6 billion that people are discussing several weeks ago. It is less than what he wanted but it would be something that Senate Republicans could agree to. And that really seems like it is going to be the main sticking point.
Can the people in Congress, the Republicans and the Democrats actually decide to agree to something? They would never agree, Senate Republicans would never agree to a zero dollars for the wall figure. But if they can agree to something that seems reasonable in between the numbers that were out there in the table for, OK, you can get through a Congress.
The question before was always, will the President sign it? Now it seems the answer that question is, yes, OK, as long as it's relatively reasonable, he will sign it. But that doesn't mean he is not going to make this emergency declaration or find other money. And then it becomes a new stage of this potential crisis. And I know this is prognosticating past where we are, but if we look at that point, then the question is, OK, where is he taking that money? Because he can maintain support within the Republican Party if he takes it from places that Republicans don't consider sackrasacing (ph). As long as he starts - as soon as he starts looking rather as certain military construction projects or certain forms of disaster relief, he is going to get pushback within his own party. So if we get through this week, with not the $5.7 billion figure for the wall, but without a government shutdown, that's the next thing that is coming that is going to really cause a lot of internal tension as well as interparty tensions as we see it every stage of the game.
And then, Salena, adding to the hypotheticals is what if? I mean, he and his advisers have to be thinking about so what if another government shutdown? I mean, the polling after that showed that majority of Americans felt that the President was to blame, not the Democrats for that shutdown. The President doesn't like, you know, approval ratings in that kind of class, you know, taking a dip.
So what is the answer to the "what if" that he and his advisers are thinking about? If there is another government shutdown, you know, at what cost? Why would that be a win for him?
[14:10:24] ZITO: I don't think personally it would be a win for him. Here is what I'm looking for. I'm looking to see what he says at the border wall or at the border tomorrow with the rally that he is holding. I suspect that more of what we are talking about right now that we don't have the answer to, he may reveal there. And he may reveal that he is willing to compromise, he may reveal that he isn't willing to compromise.
WHITFIELD: There was no sharing of a willingness at the state of the union. That could have been an opportunity. Why would all the eggs be in one basket at the border? He would announce those kinds of details.
ZITO: It's a rally and he loves rallies.
WHITFIELD: But a rally audience wouldn't want to hear that. Would they, compromise from him?
ZITO: No. I think actually, you might be underestimating the American people a little bit. They are willing to compromise. People are very, you know, if you look at the polling data on the DACA kids and border funding, people are much more willing to have a compromise on the situation, because basically people have to compromise every day in their life. Every time you pull out from a parking lot, you are compromising if you can get in and get out.
And so, I think people are, I think, we over estimate or maybe underestimating people's willingness to compromise on issues. So I think tomorrow actually is going to be really telling - I think it is tomorrow, right.
ZITO: The rally is tomorrow - yes. I think that we will have more information after that moment.
WHITFIELD: All right. Karoun, do you want to punctuate that?
DEMIRJIAN: Well, I was just going to say, if we are coming out of the weekend with some sort of a deal, tomorrow would have been the point, of course, we would have seen how the President is going to spin it for his own base, which has been extremely critical of any sort deal- making or budgeting from the line. Now, if he's going to be able to take that conciliatory position, he is going to have to do some pretty depth maneuvering to be able to sell what is not a done deal but his own willingness to compromise from a position point that is still has negotiating position potentially from the party.
It is more difficult for the President at this point. And as we know at rallies, he tends to feed off the crowd. So if the crowd is cheering for the tougher lines, we may see him laughs to a more stringent position again bout border security that lines up more with money for the wall and potentially there is still that open question of where there will be a reach of his declarations? Will he see something else that then complicates this negotiation process even more since it's now not where they hoped it would be?
All right, Karoun Demirjian, Salena Zito, thanks to both. Appreciate it.
DEMIRJIAN: Thank you.
ZITO: Thank you.
WHITFIELD: All right. Still ahead, defiance and denial. Virginia's top two leaders both facing scandals, refusing to resign. This as we are getting a clear picture of how Virginia voters feel about their embattled leaders.
And we are also standing by to hear from Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar. Yes, look at those snow flurries and it is 12 degrees. She is expected to announce that she is getting to the 2020 race for the White House. And her crowd is there to support her. They are braving the conditions there and they even have been passing hot chocolate and hot apple cider to keep warm. We will bring you the comments as it happens.
[14:17:40] WHITFIELD: All right. Live pictures outs of Minnesota right now. You are looking at a place called Boone Island. It's a part that just along the Mississippi River there in Minneapolis so it is really cold.
Senator Amy Klobuchar expected to announce that she is jumping into the race for the White House. Snow flurries and all. You see the supporters there braving these frigid conditions. Campaign officials have brought a hundred gallons of apple cider and ten gallons of hot chocolate to help keep people warm there. We will bring you the senator's comments as they happen.
All right. Meantime, a message of defiance today in Virginia. Governor Ralph Northam who has been embroiled in controversy since a photo from his yearbook page emerged, people in black face and KKK garments is now making one thing very clear, he is there to stay.
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GOV. RICHARD NORTHAM (D), VIRGINIA: Right now, Virginia also needs someone that can heal. There is no better person to do that than a doctor. Virginia also needs someone who is strong, who has empathy, who has courage and who has a moral compass. And that's why I'm not going anywhere.
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WHITFIELD: CNN correspondent Kaylee Hartung is in Richmond.
So Kaylee, the governor says he is not going anywhere. And now we are learning how Virginia residents are feeling about the future of him in office as well. What are they saying?
KAYLEE HARTUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Fred. And if you listen to more of that interview that Ralph Northam gave to CBS this morning, you hear a man who is not a practiced politician. You hear a man who is trying to appeal to people who put him in office. Virginians, he is not running for nationwide office.
And this new poll out from the "Washington Post" reflects how conflicted Virginia voters are at this moment. They are deadlocked. When asked the question of should governor Northam resign or not, right, a 47-47 across the board.
But for a man who won the black vote here in Virginia via a vast majority, he still has African-American support despite his admittance of racist behavior in his college days wearing blackface in costume. Fifty-eight percent of African-Americans say they support Ralph Northam staying in office.
So Fred, as you mentioned, this is a man who is holding his grab saying he is the best person for the job, helping Virginians heal now.
WHITFIELD: Meantime, then there is the issue of lieutenant governor who is facing a growing crisis and a lot of pressure for him to resign. Two women have accused him of sexual assault and they say they are willing to testify. At the same time lieutenant governor Fairfax says he is inviting the FBI to investigate.
[14:20:19] HARTUNG: He is, Fred. And while one woman who Justin Fairfax went to college at Duke University is accusing him of sexual assault, he is adding another woman who he went to college with to his legal team to help him deal with the fallout from these sexual assault allegations. But don't take that legal counsel as a sign that he is stepping down. He says he is not. He emphatically denies the allegations against him. He is calling for this investigation, asking the FBI to get involved, though, many have question the legitimacy of the FBI's jurisdiction in the matter of a case like this.
And in a statement that he shared last night, I want to read you. These are his words. He said, the one thing I want to make abundantly clear, is that in both situations I knew at the time and I know today that the interactions were consensual. Clearly, there are different understanding of consent between him and the two women who have accused him of sexual assault, Fred.
WHITFIELD: All right. Kaylee Hartung, thank you so much from Richmond. Appreciate it.
All right. Coming up next, the crowded field of Democrats with eyes on 2020 grows by the day. In moments, Senator Amy Klobuchar is expected to announce her candidacy there from Minneapolis, Minnesota right along the Mississippi River. We are live when it happens.
[14:25:55] WHITFIELD: All right. The Democratic field for President continues to expand. At any moment now we are expected to hear from Minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar live from Minneapolis where it is not just flurries anymore, it's bona fide snowing. And it is 14 degrees. And she's expected to announce her bid for president of the United States. We will take you there live as it happens.
Klobuchar will join a crowded field of candidates who have already announced their candidacy or have formed exploratory committees hoping to face off against Donald Trump in the next election. Five of the candidates have campaign events scheduled today crisscrossing the nation already.
Let's begin in a very snowy Minneapolis where we find Suzanne Malveaux, we will joining us from that location soon. And we understand that Klobuchar, who is a three-term senator who is throwing her hat into the ring, is hoping to galvanize support.
Let's look at Suzanne's report.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Klobuchar captured the national spotlight with her questioning of then Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So you're saying there's never been a case where you drank so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before or part of what happened?
BRETT KAVANAUGH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: It is - if you are asking about, yes, a blackout. I don't know, have you?
MALVEAUX: The exchange for which Kavanaugh later apologized went viral.
KLOBUCHAR: Could you answer the question, judge? That's never happened? Is that your answer?
KAVANAUGH: Yes, and I'm curious if you have.
KLOBUCHAR: I have no drinking problem.
MALVEAUX: Klobuchar later said she was stunned by the moment which also led her to discuss her own experience growing up with an alcoholic father.
KLOBUCHAR: My dad who is 90 now struggled with it throughout his life and finally got treatment and is sober and got help from AA. And so, I was actually trying to get at the truth.
MALVEAUX: With her national profile elevated, Klobuchar coasted to reelection in 2018 with 60 percent of the vote. Winning 42 counties carried by Donald Trump in 2016.
KLOBUCHAR: You go where it is uncomfortable, not just where it's comfortable. And that's how we are going to win the Midwest.
MALVEAUX: A graduate of Yale University, Klobuchar interned for fellow Minnesotan Walter Mondale in the Senate office.
KLOBUCHAR: I thank vice president Mondale who is here with us who has been a mentor to me.
MALVEAUX: Klobuchar says Mondale's choice of running mate in 1984, Geraldine Ferrero (ph), the first woman on a major party ticket opened her eyes to the future of women in politics.
KLOBUCHAR: For me, it was a moment when I knew that anything and everything was possible for women in the United States of America.
MALVEAUX: In 1998, Klobuchar was elected attorney of Minnesota's most populist county. Eight years later, she became the first woman elected to represent the state in the U.S. Senate.
KLOBUCHAR: I left Minnesota with my husband and our daughter and loaded up our Saturn with our college dishes and a shower curtain from 1985.
MALVEAUX: On Capitol Hill, Klobuchar has partnered with Republicans on issues such as online privacy, workplace harassment and prescription drug costs, earning respect across the aisle. Bipartisan credentials Klobuchar hopes will give her an advantage in the campaign to come.
MALVEAUX: It's very loud out here. People are anticipating this announcement. There is an incredible amount of excitement. Several hundred people out here, Fred. It is a balmy 14 degrees and we have been out here for the last three days, so this is actually warm. Yesterday was minus nine. But we are expecting just moments from now the senator will come out. She will be joined here with the governor, as well as lieutenant governor and fellow senator as well as her 90- year-old father who will be here as well.
There is hot chocolate as promised, there is cookies as well and heat warmers, head warmers, but people have decided to come out here and brave the cold because we have talked to so many. And the message is very consistent, Fred. Republicans as well as Democrats out here, they love her. They love the fact that she is a moderate Democrat, that she crosses the aisle, that she worked as a Republican. She was a very good friend of the late senator, John McCain, among many other Republicans. Voted 31 percent when it came to legislation that Trump had actually supported.
But people like that, they say, she is Minnesota nice. And the question is whether or not that's going to work for the rest of the country. For people here in Washington, they know her very well. As you saw in that piece gaining national prominence during the Kavanaugh hearing. But it is really the rest of the country now that this is her breakout moment. This is her introduction for them to get to know her and meet her. And whether or not the Minnesota nice that they like here is going to be what the Democrats like in particular especially there in the in the primary season when the Democratic Party looking to a field appealing now to the much more urban centers, to African-Americans, Latinos, as well as progressives, all those different groups who are really a very big part of the party. And looking for some change, looking for a breakout candidate. A very crowded field but a lot of people in great anticipation, Fred, when this all becomes official in the next 30 minutes or so - Fred.
[14:31:30] WHITFIELD: All right, in that little flurry of activity, Suzanne Malveaux with a very enthusiastic crowd, enthusiastic about its candidate and the conditions there in Minneapolis. Thank you so much.
All right. Let's talk further about this. With me now is Briana Bierschbach. She is a political reporter for Minnesota Public Radio. Brianna, thank you so much for being with me. So Klobuchar is in a
very crowded field here. How will she differentiate herself and perhaps separate herself from the other Democratic candidates?
BRIANA BIERSCHBACH, POLITICAL REPORTER, MINNESOTA PUBLIC RADIO: Well, I think we are going to hear some of that today in her speech. She is going to talk about her Midwestern upbringing and her Midwestern values. And here ability to try to win votes in this area. She is very popular in Minnesota. She wins her elections with very quickly. She is usually the first race called on election night shortly after the polls close. She appeals to independent Republicans and she kind of has that shucks Midwestern nice about her. And I think that she is going to talk about that in her speech today and she is going to try to bring that to the campaign trail and sell that to the rest of the country.
WHITFIELD: She has the reputation as being, you know, a moderate. Will she be able to excite the left or get votes from the liberal base which plays such big roles in primaries and caucuses? At the same time, perhaps use to her advantage, the fact that she has, you know, voted in favor more than 30 percent of the time of, you know, Trump- related agenda, so perhaps she will be appealing to, ultimately, if she becomes a nominee, Republicans as well.
BIERSCHBACH: Yes, I think she is going to -- her biggest challenge right away is, of course, getting the nomination. And some might see that as not a good thing, right. That she has worked with Republicans and independents and Democrats alike. And she is really quick to mention her teaming up with people from all sorts of parties. She is quick to mention her friend on the other side of the aisle.
But in the fight for the nomination, it is a little bit more challenging. That's not how we seen necessarily as a good thing. She has had a number of bills signed by the President. But I think that in looking at the broader fight, if she does make it beyond the nomination, she could potential appeal to voters in the Republican Party and beyond. She certainly does here in Minnesota. If you dig into her polling numbers on her election campaign, she really does appeal more than any other candidates to people from all political spectrums. And it shows in her quick election victories.
WHITFIELD: And if she has a greater advantage in the Midwest, what might be her challenges try to appeal, you know, to voters everywhere else?
BIERSCHBACH: Well, yes. I think in the Midwest her personality works, right. It is very hardworking pragmatic. It appeals to people who say, that was just like me, you know. She had a suburban upbringing. And obviously rose from there. But that might not be a flashy in other parts of the country. And people who might be looking for someone who is a bit more fiery on the podium, Amy is very -- she likes to crack a joke. She is very focused. It works very well here. It will be really interesting to see if that really energizes people in other parts of the nation.
WHITFIELD: Is there a particular significance as to why shed is, in that location, Boone Island, you know, this part right along the Mississippi there in Minneapolis. How does that I guess fold into her message?
BIERSCHBACH: Well, on a clear day, you probably able to see the skyline of Minneapolis, but of course it's snowing pretty heavily. But it is really a beautiful place. The Mississippi river runs right behind it. It is really, the Mississippi runs through the state. It connects rural and the urban areas. And she can definitely bring that message and will probably talk about that message, but it's also just a beautiful open space where you can fit a lot of people. And it sounds like people are showing up in pretty large numbers even given the weather out there right now.
[14:35:00] WHITFIELD: Yes. They don't seem to mind that the temperature seems to be hovering between like 12, 14 and 16 degrees there and it's getting pretty blustery as well.
All right, Briana Bierschbach, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
All right. U.S. senator Cory Booker, well, he is in South Carolina, a fresh off his tour of Iowa. He is speaking right now in Winnsboro about 30 miles north of Columbia. It is one of two stops today in South Carolina which is the first southern state to hold a primary in 2020.
CNN's Rebecca Buck is there.
REBECCA BUCK, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: That's right, Fred. We are awaiting Cory Booker here in Winnsboro, South Carolina, about 40 minutes outside of Columbia, South Carolina where he is said to make his first stop in the first in the south primary state since announcing his bid for president. He came late last night straight from Iowa where he made two days of campaign appearances there.
Now focusing his energy on this key primary state, it gives us a sense of what Cory Booker views as his path to victory in this very competitive Democratic primary. It looks a lot, of course, like Obama's path of victory in 2008, starting in Iowa as a launch pad, moving on to South Carolina African-American voters comprise a large share of the Democratic electorate here.
But Booker, already facing very stiff competition. Senator Kamala Harris is making an aggressive play here in South Carolina. Of source, she too is an African-American candidate like Booker. And Democrats here tell us that Joe Biden, former vice president, if he runs, would also have a very strong base of support here in South Carolina, a network that he has cultivated over many years in politics.
Booker has been making the case that what sets him apart is his experience as mayor of Newark running a city. He has also been talking very frankly about things like race, racial justice, and of course, touting his record on criminal justice reform, something he has worked on in the Senate. So we expect to hear more about those themes here today in Winnsboro. He is going another stop later tonight here in South Carolina one more tomorrow focusing on rural areas on this trip. But we are expecting him to make many, many more stops here in this key primary state over the weeks and months ahead - Fred.
WHITFIELD: All right. Rebecca Buck, thank you so much in Winnsboro, South Carolina.
All right. Now, let's go to Iowa where Elizabeth Warren is crisscrossing the state in here first full day of campaigning as a declared presidential candidate. And she shifting her tone by directly taking on President Donald Trump.
CNN national political correspondent M.J. Lee is in Iowa City where Warren is expected to speak in just about 90 minutes or so from now.
So, what is she likely to touch on?
M. J. LEE, CNN POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, we just drove over from Cedar Rapids. This was her first event of the day, of three events today in Iowa. And she came out swinging against President Trump and actually attacking him by name. And this moment was notable because he have rarely seeing do this on the stump. Let's listen to what she said and then talk about it.
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SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Every day there is a racist tweet, a hateful tweet, something really dark and ugly. Are we going to let him use those to divide us? You know, here's what bothers me. By the time we get to 2020, Donald Trump may not even be President. In fact, he may not even be a free person.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LEE: Yes, she did attack President Trump by name, but don't expect this to be actually her new strategy going forward. She actually went on to explain why she thinks it's so important to not respond to every single one of his tweets and his attacks, that she believes that there are so many problems the Democratic candidates are confronting as the 2020 race gears up, and that she doesn't want to fall into the trap of every day responding to the latest attack or the tweet from the President.
Now, as you mentioned, we are now here in Iowa City. This is going to be her second stop of the day. Later in the evening, she goes over to Davenport. Even though we have seen her on the stump for over a month now, this campaign is really just beginning for Senator Warren. She is going to be very busy making a lot of retail campaign stops over the next couple of months. Back to you.
WHITFIELD: All right, M.J. Lee, thank you so much. We will check back with you.
All right. Still ahead, in just moments, U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar is expected to announce her candidacy from that snowy location right there. We are live as it happens. Also still ahead, jury deliberations in the trial of drug kingpin, El
Chapo are about to head into a second week with no verdict in sight. So what is the holdup?
[14:44:02] WHITFIELD: Jury deliberations for the trial for Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman head into a second week tomorrow. And so far, jury is deliberating on the Mexican drug lord's fate have heard hundreds of hours of testimony. They have gone through boxes of physical evidence and some 60 pages of jury instructions. And after a week, still no verdict.
CNN's Polo Sandoval has been following the trial.
So is there any expectation of how much longer deliberations could go?
POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's hard to say, Fred. It really is hard to say.
Now, let me let you know at this point, that what we know from Joaquin Guzman is his reputation is being the alleged head and Sinaloa cartel, not just the muscle but the brains behind that criminal organization. So many people had assume, that perhaps, this would be an open and shut case. But here we are, four days of testimony - rather, four days of deliberations later, and now the fifth day expected tomorrow and still no verdict. One of the main reasons? All the testimony that they are going over. Here's some of that.
[14:45:07] SANDOVAL (voice-over): For the last two months, jurors have listened to details of bribes and bloodshed. Her testimony about notorious Sinaloa cartel boss, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman and saw rare images of the drug lord, his diamond in crusted pistol by his side. Government witnesses testify in how Guzman allegedly smuggled drugs through tunnels, cars, a semi-submersible, even inside cans of chili and fake bananas.
Details from his former associates now cooperating with the government included explosive testimony from fellows Sinaloa cartel member Alex C. Fuentes who testified about his former boss' bribes allegedly paid Mexican officials. C. Fuentes claim, Guzman once paid former Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto a $100 million on October 2012 when he was president-elect. Pena Nieto's former chief of staff called the allegations false, defamatory and absurd adding that I was Pena Nieto's administration who located, arrested and extradited Guzman to the United States for trial.
El Chapo's former IT expert, Christian Rodriguez, whose photo is shown here and obscured by prosecutors to hide his identity, revealed how the cartel communicated to a system of encrypted phones. He used spyware to capture conversations with members of Guzman's criminal organization.
Guzman is facing multiple counts including firearm and drug trafficking charges and faces life in prison. Though the list of charges does not include murder, testimony to the graphic turn when Isaiah Valdez (ph) was called to the stand. The former security guard turned pilot recalled when Guzman was involved in the gruesome murders of three rivals.
Former Columbia cartel lord, Juan Carlos La Chupeta Ramirez also called to court testifying. He started working with El Chapo in the early '90s. Ramirez went to work with Guzman for nearly 18 years and was eventually captured in 2007. He was so hotly pursued by authorities that he went several plastic surgeries to try to evade capture.
One constant fixture in the courtroom has been Guzman's wife of more than 10 ten year, former beauty queen Emma Coronel. Coronel helped her husband escaped from a Mexican prison according to testimony that came from a former prison guard turned Chapo's associate. She is not facing charges at this time and her lawyer had no comment about those allegations.
In a final move to convince jurors of Guzman's guilt, prosecutors showed images of the tunnel that provided his escape. A government expert described it as being just under a mile long, complete with a motorcycle track set to have been used by El Chapo and an associate where their ride to freedom.
SANDOVAL: And it is just a small sample of the 11 weeks of testimony the jurors have essentially taken in. What we can tell you now that the jury will be returning to the courthouse tomorrow to resume their deliberations. These kinds of drawn out deliberations are maybe surprising but one prosecutor says that is to be expected when you have so much material to go over, Fred. In fact, according to that prosecutor, we should be concern that they would have come back with the verdict on this immediately.
WHITFIELD: So Polo, were there any - have there been any question of perhaps jurors have said the judge and sometimes that is an indicator on what areas, you know, the jurors are kind of hung up on, anything like that?
SANDOVAL: Absolutely. They almost immediately returned with a request for some of the testimony from some of those witnesses. And that's key here and that might potentially explain why it takes so long.
When they request for some testimony from a specific witness, well, the court can't just simply pull it out the transcript and hand it over. There are sidebar conversations that happened that they essentially have to go in there and process (ph) before they get it to the jury. So they have already requested testimony from five people. And we will be back, as we mentioned, back in the courtroom tomorrow to resume their deliberations. Then ultimately, we may find out and they will come back with a verdict.
WHITFIELD: We shall see. SANDOVAL: That's right.
WHITFIELD: All right. Polo Sandoval, thank you so much.
A major 2020 announcement happening in just moments. Senator Amy Klobuchar is expected to announce her candidacy. Those are some diehard folks right there. It looks like already snow accumulation there as they are awaiting her arrival. We are live as it happens.
Plus this, Denver is so expensive, teachers are having to get creative to make ends meet. And tomorrow they are set to go on strike. Details next.
[14:53:54] WHITFIELD: Teachers at Denver's public schools are set to walk off the job tomorrow after talks broke off this weekend with the school district. The teachers are looking for an overhaul of the salary system. The union says teacher pay varies from year to year because the district's pay system uses unpredictable bonuses to compensate for low base pay. Several teachers tell CNN they have to take second and sometimes even third jobs just to make ends meet. This would be the first teachers' strike in Denver in 25 years.
So what is really going on inside the most powerful social media company on earth?
CNN's Laurie Segall got exclusive access to Facebook and the man behind it. Take a look.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Welcome to December 2007. Also known as that time Facebook ruined Christmas.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was a guy who bought a diamond ring for his wife, and all his friends had flashed up on his screen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Including his wife.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Christmas ruined, he says.
SEGALL: It was Facebook's first big privacy scandal.
[14:55:04] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thousands were outraged.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People were really ticked off.
SEGALL: Ticked off by Facebook's first real attempt to making money. It was an electronic (ph) called beacon.
NICHOLAS CARLSON, GLOBAL EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, INSIDE/BUSINESS INSIDER: The Facebook user can log into e-commerce site using their Facebook identification. And then when you buy something, all your friends are going to find out about it. And Facebook was like, this is such a cool innovated way to get involved in commerce and not be doing boring old advertising.
SEGALL: To say they got it wrong was an understatement.
CARLSON: It blew up in their faces immediately. Because when you think about it, you don't want like people to know what kind of underwear you are buying and so on.
SEGALL: This, soon after the news feed outrage. But like many bad Zuckerberg made that pay off, this was different.
CARLSON: The story of Facebook beacon is the time where Facebook got really burned.
WHITFIELD: All right. Join CNN's Laurie Segall as she talks exclusively with Facebook insiders. The CNN's special report airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern.
Much more straight ahead in the NEWSROOM after this.