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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Police in New Zealand say that the mosque shootings could have been even worse, as the gunmen was on his way to attack more people before he was stopped. Plus security footage reveals how he targeted his victims.
Theresa May's uphill battle with Brussels is now at a critical juncture. She will have to convince the E.U. to agree to a delay.
Plus the aftermath of cyclone Idai. The damage from the powerful storm is being assessed, amid fears the death toll will reach staggering levels.
Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world, I'm Rosemary Church and this is CNN NEWSROOM.
CHURCH: New Zealand is laying the first victims of last week's mass shooting to rest, while the prime minister offers comfort. Jacinda Ardern met with first responders Wednesday praising their quick action on the scene. She plans to announce her proposals on gun law reform soon.
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JACINDA ARDERN, PRIME MINISTER OF NEW ZEALAND: We have a large number of loopholes in our laws. And many New Zealanders will be astounded to know that you can access military style semiautomatics in the way that you can here.
There are a range of things that need to be fixed. And I guess if I were to say if New Zealand were blueprint for anything, in some ways, it's a blueprint of what not to do.
My hope is that, going forward, we will demonstrate what you can do if your starting point is similar to ours. We do have a road to travel, though, and I will be announcing further details very soon.
One of the things that was shared with me was that a family that was affected was Syrian refugees. I can't tell you how getting it is to know that a family came here for safety and for refuge and they should have been safe here.
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CHURCH: The two Syrian refugees, a father and son, were the first of the 50 victims to be buried. Hundreds of people attended as heavily armed police stood guard.
TV New Zealand reported the country's biggest Muslim school held a special assembly on Wednesday, the school is attached to a mosque, so it is guarded by security officers.
Ivan Watson is in Christchurch, he joins us now live.
As we reported, some of the victims are being laid to rest today, several days after the attack. The prime minister has said that she feels the anguish of the families due to the delay involved. Talk to us about all of that.
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's just taking days for the authorities to cope with the sheer loss of life as of Wednesday night -- Tuesday night, rather, the police say they have identified 21 of the victims and thus the family of the father and son were able to bury them this morning in Christchurch.
The New Zealand here telling students at the school, where at least seven people connected to the school were killed or wounded, that it is OK to grieve and informing the rest of the country that there will be a moment of silence on Friday, one week after the attack. Take a listen.
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ARDERN: There is a desire to show support to the Muslim community as they return to mosques, particularly on Friday. There's also a desire among New Zealanders to mark the week that has passed since the terrorist attack.
To acknowledge this, there will be a two-minute silence on Friday. We will also broadcast, nationally, via TVNZ and Radio New Zealand a call to prayer.
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WATSON: And, Rosemary, we continue to see New Zealanders, coming to the makeshift memorial with tears on their faces, showing their respect in their own ways. For example, we just had 100 motorcyclers right past, revving their engines in their own sign of support, some of them waving heart signs with their hands -- Rosemary.
CHURCH: An incredible response there in New Zealand, certainly leading the way for the world. And Ivan I want to ask you too, because --
[02:05:00] CHURCH: -- police have given new details on the investigation.
What are they revealing?
What is the latest on that?
WATSON: Well, CNN has obtained surveillance video that sheds more light on the deadliest terrorist attack in New Zealand modern history. This video was recorded at a property very close, about 300 meters away from the Al Noor mosque.
We think it is newsworthy and I want to warn viewers that some of the images here may be disturbing. So they may want to turn away if you don't want to see this.
WATSON (voice-over): Security camera footage from what was soon to become New Zealand's darkest day. This video from March 15th shows people casually strolling past at 1:42 in the afternoon. It is film from a camera on a hotel located around 300 meters from the Al Noor mosque.
There's a series of gunshots that ring out, from what appear to be two different types of firearms. And even though this is the start of a deadly terrorist attack, passersby still have no idea what is unfolding nearby.
It isn't until nearly four minutes later that pedestrians shows signs of alarm. And then this car appears. The driver honked his horn to get pedestrians' attention and then shoots through the passenger side window at a man on the sidewalk.
The hotel owners say they shared this footage with the police. The police will not comment on the video during the ongoing investigation.
The camera films this stretch of sidewalk and the footage reveals too important details about the deadliest terrorist attack in New Zealand's modern history. First, within moments of the first recorded gunshot, you can hear sirens, backing up police statements that they were rushing to the scene within minutes of the first emergency call.
But second, the gunman was so desperate to kill, that he stopped right here and shot through the window of his own car at victims while en route from the first mosque down the road to a second mosque. And the ground here is still littered with glass from his vehicle.
Police say this were the action of a lone gunman, whose rampage began with the attack on the Al Noor mosque and subsequently the Linwood mosque.
MIKE BUSH, NEW ZEALAND POLICE COMMISSIONER: We strongly believe we stopped him on the way to a further attack, so lives were saved.
WATSON (voice-over): Police are now revealing additional details about the suspect's plan.
BUSH: I'm not going to go into those details, I don't wish to traumatize others. So that will form part of the court case. But we absolutely believe we know where he was going and we intervened on the way.
WATSON (voice-over): The security footage shows the suspect rushing away from the roadside shooting.
Roughly 15 minutes later, he was detained. His rampage lasted less than half an hour, cut short by a swift police response. Yet it wasn't enough to stop this determined killer from claiming at least 50 innocent lives.
WATSON: Truly chilling to hear from the police that the suspect was planning to attack some other target and, fortunately, they were able to stop that from happening. Authorities say that the security forces are still on high alert, on the lookout for possible copycat acts of violence.
CHURCH: So disturbing and chilling as you pointed out, Ivan Watson, thank you so much for your live report. We appreciate it.
Well, it is a big ask. British prime minister needs Theresa May a Brexit delay and she is writing to the European Union to beg for one, with no guarantee that she will get. With just nine days ago until the U.K.'s increasingly messy divorce from the E.U., only now does Downing Street concede this is a full-blown crisis.
The big question now is how will the E.U. respond?
CNN's Erin McLaughlin brings us the story from Brussels.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Don't assume a Brexit extension is automatic, that's the message from Irish foreign minister Simon Coveney out of a ministerial meeting here in Brussels.
The meeting paving the way for a critical summit on Thursday, in which all 27 E.U. leaders are expected to gather to consider the question of whether or not to give the U.K. a Brexit extension, short or long. Coveney said he wants to see a detailed plan from the U.K. on how to get a majority for some form of Brexit out of Westminster. Take a listen to what he had to say.
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SIMON COVENEY, IRISH PRIME MINISTER: If there is going to be a request for a long extension of Article 50 by the U.K., there will need to be a very persuasive plan to go with that to explain why that is needed --
[02:10:00] COVENEY: -- and how they would use the time to conclude the outstanding issues that have not been able to be agreed in London in the context of the Brexit process.
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MCLAUGHLIN: We also heard that message from the chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier. According to Coveney he was also related to David Lidington, the cabinet office minister, to take back with him to Theresa May in London, who's drafting a letter to the E.U. on the topic that is expected within the next 48 hours.
Once received, it's fair to assume that E.U. leaders will be going through that letter line by line. The key question being, will E.U. leaders be willing to bite the no Brexit bullet if Theresa May's plan is deemed insufficient?
We heard from German chancellor Angela Merkel say that she doesn't know how this is going to play out but she will do everything in her power to avoid a chaotic and disorderly Brexit in the minutes up to March 29th, 2019, the Brexit deadline -- Erin McLaughlin, CNN, Brussels.
CHURCH: And CNN's Anna Stewart is standing by live in London, she joins us now live.
So Anna, the E.U. was sending a clear message to Theresa May, that she can't assume an automatic extension to Brexit.
How will she persuade them to give it to her when she writes asking for a delay and how will they respond?
ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So she's going to formerly request a delay fro the E.U. the today and she needs to be clear about what the U.K. will do with this delay, what kind of delay they want. The problem, Rosemary, is in Westminster there is a lack of clarity about what kind of extension is going to be asked for and what the U.K. will do with the time.
Will be a short, technical extension, taking the U.K. to the end of June?
That would just allow for May's deal to be passed into legislation.
Or will a much longer extension be required to totally reopen the whole Brexit renegotiation situation?
Now yesterday, pressure was ratcheting up on the prime minister as the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, suggested that he could get a deal with the E.U., perhaps easier than she could.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JEREMY CORBYN, LEADER, U.K. LABOUR PARTY: I think an extension to the end of June gives time for at least a discussion about this, a basic set of negotiations about what we'd achieve in the future.
But I have already been to Brussels many times during the past couple of years. But more recently to put forward our proposals, which are as outlined, customs union and market access and rights protection.
Without agreeing to them the E.U. said this is the basis for negotiation, a basis for discussion and indeed we will put those forward again. What Theresa May's deal does is protects none of those things, is basically a leap into dark.
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STEWART: Corbyn's version of Brexit is a much softer Brexit, an entirely different Brexit if you will. There's no reason to suspect that would have any more support in Parliament but it would certainly suggest that the E.U. would need a much longer extension.
So a lot is hanging on whether the prime minister is able to get her deal through Parliament and the Speaker of the House of Commons, she can't keep putting the same deal through for more and more votes. And we're nine days out.
CHURCH: Still fumbling around, the E.U. wants a detailed plan from Britain but with only nine days to go until the deadline, there is absolutely no sign of one just yet.
So crashing out of the E.U. without a deal it's looking more likely. Isn't it?
What other options are there?
STEWART: It isn't just likely, that's the fallback option. Legally, unless the deal is reached, unless an extension is both asked for and agreed, not just from the E.U. 27 members, that has to be unanimous, but also from Westminster, it has been voted by MPs there too.
If all these things were to happen and that's entirely possible, the current fallback is that the U.K. leaves March 29th, in Brussels without a deal with all the economic and financial consequences that come with it. Yesterday, the E.U. chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier made very clear that he thinks Britain should keep planning for a no deal Brexit.
CHURCH: The situation across Europe, there's a lot of people laughing at the Brits right now. They do need to get their act together, time is running out fast. Anna Stewart, many thanks to you, that live report from the U.K. Parliament.
The U.S. president is making it clear when it comes to the crisis in Venezuela, all options are open. Donald Trump's latest tough talk came during a joint news conference with Brazil's president Jair Bolsonaro --
CHURCH: -- CNN's Paula Newton has the view from Caracas.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There was a lot of agreement in the Rose Garden about what they want to happen, but still no clear path on how to get there when it comes to policy in Venezuela.
One thing that was startling was that President Trump seems to be starting to come to terms with the fact, it will take much longer than he had wanted despite some very tough sanctions already on the table and that includes an oil embargo from the United States.
And that Donald Trump hinting that in fact, tougher sanctions could still be on the way. Take a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm not being told any specific time, they've been there a long time, to him and his predecessor. At some point, I would imagine things will change.
But we really haven't done the really tough sanctions yet, we can do the tough sanctions and all options are open, so we may be doing that. But we haven't and the toughest sanctions as you know.
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NEWTON: Now specifically, I want you to hear the fact that it could take much longer. Now coming to some kind of agreement and most likely they've also heard this from Brazil. If they want that peaceful transition here, it is going to take some time and everyone just starting to acknowledge that.
We should mention as well, that earlier Tuesday, the U.S. representative on Venezuela, Elliott Abrams met with deputy foreign minister from Russia. they both concluded their meeting saying nothing had been agreed to, in fact what they said was that they had a fulsome frank discussion about what the disagreements are.
And that principally the disagreements remain about who is the legitimacy -- legitimate president here and how to move forward.
In the meantime, here on the ground, Juan Guaido continues what he has been, a tour of Venezuela continuing to try and have that momentum really trying to take a lot of power, quite frankly, from the streets in terms of showing how many people still back him here in Venezuela.
President Maduro, for his part, has been busy actually trying to reconstruct his cabinet and being very blunt that he intends to restructure his government. And we expect to hear more about that in the days to come -- Paula Newton, CNN, Caracas.
(END VIDEOTAPE) CHURCH: And more on President Trump's meeting with Jair Bolsonaro. The news conference where he aired grievances and where he peddled a new theory.
And we will go live to Mozambique on the cyclone that devastated three countries with the death toll in the hundreds. We will get to that next.
CHURCH: At least 200 people in Mozambique have died after a cyclone swept through the region last week. That number is expected to --
CHURCH: -- rise by a lot. Many the members are still clinging to rooftops, waiting for rescue. Thousands have been left isolated by the storm. And concern is growing, that 500,000 residents of Beira; 90 percent of that area was destroyed. Some describing what's left as an inland ocean. And relief groups worry that there is an increased risk of malaria and cholera.
CHURCH: Let's talk more about this with Saul Butters, he's assistant country director for CARE Mozambique and joins me now from the capital, Maputo. Thank you so much for being with us.
SAUL BUTTERS, ASSISTANT COUNTRY DIRECTOR, CARE MOZAMBIQUE: You're welcome.
CHURCH: So, what is the situation on the ground there?
And how difficult has it been to get food, clean water and medicine to those most in need?
BUTTERS: Yes. The situation is extremely difficult, as you said the cyclone hit on Thursday night and cause widespread damage to the city of Beira, which has left power outages, no phone lines, clean water. It's been dwindling, as well as fuel supplies in the city.
So moving around city and getting a clear picture of the extent of the damage was very challenging initially and this has been complicated by the continuing heavy rains in the area as you've said we've seen rivers bursting, banks. And now we're seeing images through aerial assessments of rivers stretching 70 kilometers across now.
So, these rivers have blocked access into the city of Beira, which is why gaining access is very difficult. Luckily, yesterday the airport was grabbing for cargo and flights. There were cargo flights delivering aid into the city yesterday. But CARE's humanitarian supplies which are on the road no longer able to reach the city by road and we have to reassess the situation and we are now trying to bring our aid supplies in by helicopter into the city.
It's very difficult situation. The situation is evolving and the situation seems to be worsening as we continue to experience these heavy rains.
CHURCH: And as you've been speaking with us, we were looking at those aerial shots and also the people being rescued. And you mentioned all of the challenges that lie ahead. It is difficult to sort of understand how you can sustain some of the care that's needed for all of the survivors who have lost homes, they've lost everything.
BUTTERS: Yes, that's right. The team has been working literally day and night on the ground since the landfall of the cyclone.
Our team is working with the government and there's a really good coordinated effort on the part of a humanitarian community to basically work together and come up with a clear strategy of the best way of addressing these problems.
And as you say, accessing the population affected is going to be one of the biggest challenges. People have lost everything. They've been displaced from their homes; their homes have been washed away. They've been clinging on for life in trees, on rooftops.
And trying to find a -- trying to develop a system whereby we can access the maximum amount of people, is the current challenge that we're working on.
CHURCH: And how many people would you estimate you still haven't been able to make contact with, do you think?
BUTTERS: Our search and rescue effort are ongoing. It's really difficult to put a number on that. But I think the search and rescue efforts are going to be continuing for a number of days.
And we expect the situation of the flooding probably to get worse. So now our key part of the response as we move forward over the next few days. It's too early and too difficult to put a number on exactly how many people are still missing.
CHURCH: Right. And again, as we speak, we're looking at some of these images and its total devastation in some of those areas, so much has lost. It will take a long time, moths, possibly even years to return to some sort of normalcy.
Saul Butters, thank you so much for talking with us from CARE, Mozambique. We appreciate it.
(WEATHER REPORT) CHURCH: The once vast ISIS caliphate in Syria, now just a sliver of land. When we return, what U.S.-backed forces are up against and their final push against the terror group.
Plus thousands of people risking their lives, trying to walk to a better life. Along the way they will have to cross through a war zone: yet, they push on. The CNN investigation coming up.
[02:30:18] CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone to CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Rosemary Church. I want to check the headlines for you this hour. Checking the welcome back everyone, I'm rosemary church. Checking the headlines this hour. New Zealand's Prime Minister says she will be announcing her plan for gun control reform soon, at a news conference following her meeting with first responders.
Jacinda Ardern say that there are many loopholes that needs to be fixed. The first funeral has been held for two of the 50 victims of the mass shootings. Britain's Prime Minister is appealing to the European Union for a Brexit delay with the deadline now just nine days away. But an increasingly impatient E.U. says it needs a concrete plan from Theresa May and the British Parliament before agreeing to any extension.
Mozambique, Malawi, and Zimbabwe are coming to groups with the death and destruction caused by Cyclone Idai. Officials say at least 200 people in Mozambique were killed in the storm but that number is expected to grow. Some inland areas remain underwater and cut off.
U.S.-backed forces in Syria say they are making major advances against ISIS shrinking its territory over the past few days. A spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces tweeted out several maps, highlighting the ground they say they've gained around the ISIS encampment in Baghouz. This map shows what ISIS controlled on Sunday, compared that to Monday. The territory was shrinking and by Tuesday all that was left for ISIS was small sliver of land. CNN's Ben Wedeman is in Eastern Syria with more on this final push against ISIS.
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces say they've taken into custody several suspects they believe members of ISIS who were involved in the planting of that that January 16th bombing in the town of Manbij where a suicide bomber killed four Americans, 10 Syrians. Among the Syrians, two members of the Syrian Democratic Forces and eight civilians.
That bombing underscores the ongoing threat posed by ISIS well away from the shrinking dwindling piece of territory still controlled by ISIS. Today we heard from a spokesman of the Syrian Democratic Forces who said that that encampment around which we've been reporting from for weeks that encampment of tents and wrecked cars, you could call it a junk yard is now under the control of the Syrian Democratic Forces.
The Jihadist apparently using some families as human shields, are now simply along a small strip of land along the Euphrates River. So it appears that perhaps the end of ISIS as a territorial entity maybe just hours or just days away. I'm Ben Wedeman, CNN, reporting from Eastern Syria.
CHURCH: Well, each month, motivated by poverty and desperation, thousands of Ethiopian's head out looking for work. But it is a journey that takes many of them directly through Yemen's war zone to get to Saudi Arabia. CNN's Arwa Damon tracked their progress.
ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: They wouldn't do this if they thought they had a choice. Home for them is Ethiopia, but that's now 700 miles away. Miles that were walked, not driven. Our country is broken, one of the young men tells us.
From Yemen he says he can get to Saudi for work to send money to his mother. It's hard to comprehend a level a poverty that would drive someone towards a war zone. Especially when the horrors of that war are found on the very same stretch of the Djibouti shoreline. Marahar's (ph) wife and daughter were killed in the mortar round eight months ago. He tells us of how he spent seven hours in a fishing boat to escape to the refugee camp.
Only to arrive to find that his son was killed fighting with the rebels. Najib (ph) and family just arrive. Over the last five years, around 25 relatives and neighbors in his village were killed. In the same area, we ask, yes, he response. Homes were destroyed, schools, mosques. You remember seeing migrants trying to across through Yemen. We would say, don't go. They would say, god is with us.
[02:35:03] Just across the road at this transit center, there are hundreds of Ethiopians waiting to be repatriated home. Hundreds who wanted to make the trip to Yemen. 13-year-old Moa (ph) says he was stopped by the police before he could get on the boat.
Because he didn't know there was a war in Yemen. And neither did the other children here. They didn't know about the bodies of migrants that have washed up on Yemen's shores. They don't know about the bombs, bullets, mines or mortars. Even the adults, it seems, don't fully understand what lies ahead. And even if they do, it doesn't seem to matter. At the last stop before Yemen, they gather under trees for shade and protection from the wind and wait for the smugglers.
They were just saying, you know, maybe there is a war in Yemen, maybe there isn't. And I said no, there is a war in Yemen. And they said, well, then, we have to leave it up to god. This is after all a historic migrant route. And too many of these men have left relatives who that made it before. Before the war. At dusk, the smugglers arrive to herd the migrants like cattle up the hill and towards the sea.
One of them tells us, he sends groups as big as 200 across to Yemen in a day. We asked the follow but he warns us away. This is the last we see of them. Arwa Damon, CNN, Obock Djibouti.
CHURCH: Amnesty International is accusing the U.S. military of causing civilian deaths and a series of air strikes in Somalia. The strikes came in 2017 and 2018 after President Trump ease restrictions on the use of air power and the east African nation. The amnesty report alleges 14 civilians were killed and eight injured in the air campaigns. The Pentagon denies the allegations saying the targets were affiliated with the Al Shabaab militant group and that efforts are made to keep civilian safe. And still to come, Donald Trump's feuds don't stop at the graveyard.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think that's disgraceful, plus there were other things I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be.
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CHURCH: Why President Trump is still going after John McCain seven months after his death. Plus, go inside the Trump 2020 reelection campaign, we've got exclusive access. That story to come. Do stay with us.
[02:40:08] CHURCH: For the last remaining soviet hero head of state is leaving office. The president of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev announced his resignation on Tuesday. He has been in power for almost 30 years. And observers say he's was a classic autocrat. Dominating political life there. He drew the attention of international energy companies and policy makers in Washington because of Kazakhstan's cast oil and memo reserves.
His powers will now go to the chairman of Kazakhstanis until the next election. Well, a new bromance is in bloom for the U.S. president and newly-elected leader of Brazil, a man dubbed Trump of the Tropics. Joining a joint press conference between Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro, Mr. Trump heard some grievances. CNN's Abby Phillip reports.
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: President Trump today finding common cause with the man known as the Trump of the Tropics.
TRUMP: It's been a wonderful time getting to know you.
PHILLIP: Relishing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's adoption of his attacks on the media.
TRUMP: I'm very proud to hear the President use the term fake news.
PHILLIP: And using the White House as a backdrop for the airing of more grievances against the host of perceived enemies including big tech companies.
TRUMP: Something is happening with those groups and folks that are running Facebook and Google and Twitter. And I do think we have to get to the bottom of it. It's very fair, exclusive, if they're Conservative, if they're Republicans, if they're in a certain group, this discrimination.
PHILLIP: And once again, going after late Senator John McCain using his Oval Office meeting to continue a series of attacks that began over the weekend. First, slamming the McCain's vote against repealing and replacing Obamacare.
TRUMP: I'm very unhappy that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare as you know, he campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare for years and then he got to a vote and he said, thumbs down.
PHILLIP: Then leaving no doubt that his grudge against the Vietnam war hero is personal.
TRUMP: I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be.
PHILLIP: He also took a shot at Kellyanne Conway's husband George Conway who questioned Trump's psychological state in the midst of his 50-tweet tirade this weekend. Trump firing back this morning calling Conway a total loser.
CHURCH: Well, joining me now is Larry Sabato. He is director of the Center of Politics at the University of Virginia. Always great to have you with us.
LARRY SABATO, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR POLITICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Thank you so much, Rosemary.
CHURCH: So, President Trump just can't seem to shake his bitterness toward the late Senator John McCain. Why is he obsessing over a man no longer with us? And why is this happening now with so many other issues that need to be attended to?
SABATO: Well, I'm not a psychologist, I'm a political scientist but I would say essentially he can help himself. This is a byproduct, maybe a narcissism or megalomania, continuing anger towards John McCain from beyond the grave. It's really hard to explain and even some of President Trump's allies say that is just -- and it is outrageous.
CHURCH: Right. And of course, so, Mr. Trump also claims Twitter is rigged against Conservatives and not only that, he's also continuing his attack on the husband of his senior aide, Kellyanne Conway calling him a total loser in response to George Conway questioning the President's mental stage. All of this as many around the world would like to hear him condemn white supremacy and the attacks on the Muslim community in New Zealand. What's going on here do you think?
SABATO: Again, it's the fact that Donald Trump cannot control his emotions. And essentially is going to do precisely what he wants to do even when it's not in his interest. You know, he has 59 million Twitter followers. Rosemary, he would not be president (INAUDIBLE) for Twitter. I don't determine what Twitter's policy are but I'm on it a lot and I don't see the bias that he sees. They're tough on both sides as they should be when they go too far. As far as the Conways are concern, god forbid that a husband and wife would have very different opinions and both being able to express it. So, I don't know what goes on in the Conway household and I don't want to know. I would hope most people believe the same.
CHURCH: Yes. Unfortunately it is a distraction at this time. Let's go to the other side of the political aisle and there is a new CNN poll out on the 2020 Democratic camp date and the headline from that is the California Senator Kamala Harris has experienced an eight-point jump to 12 percent up against yet to be declared candidate Joe Biden at 28 percent and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders at 20 percent. What do you think is behind this new enthusiasm of the House and what might this mean for the presidential race do you think?
[02:45:15] SABATO: Well, Senator Harris had a great March. She had tremendous crowds in her home State of California. And she also had good crowds and good reaction in Iowa and New Hampshire. So that certainly has helped her to move up in the polls. As you noted Joe Biden still first although he is well below 50 percent
And behind him is Bernie Sanders, Beto O'Rourke also new candidate. It's about where Kamala Harris is. So those are four both frontrunners. I really don't think there is a frontrunner. There are so many candidates probably in the end, 15 to 20 that you're going to have other people rise from the low levels of one or two percent. There are almost too many candidates to pole about. You can't even what the names.
CHURCH: Yes. And of course the big question for Democrats is which candidate can beat Donald Trump? Because that's what they're looking for here. Who might that be do you think in that mix?
SABATO: Actually, out of the 15 to 20 that I can imagine running. I can see six to 10 who under the right circumstances could in fact beat Trump. Now, those circumstances may not occur, maybe the economy continues to roll along. Maybe Trump somehow learns to control himself more so that he doesn't generates so much animosity that he doesn't need. And there are others things that could happen this way one way or the other.
But Trump has built an opposition that actually is about 52, 53, 54 percent of the electorate. The best way for him to win is to have a strong third-party candidate who enables him to win with 45, 46 percent just like he did in 2016.
COURIC: Larry Sabato, always great to get your analysis. Thank you so much.
SABATO: Thank you so much, Rosemary.
CHURCH: And as we mentioned a little earlier, Mr. Trump lashed out on Facebook and Twitter for what he says is collusion against him and other Republicans.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: It seems to be if they're Conservative, if they're Republicans, if they're in a certain group, this discrimination and big discrimination. I see it absolutely on Twitter and Facebook. And I will tell you, there is collusion with respect to that because something has to be going on.
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CHURCH: But his reelection campaign is depending on Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites for another win. In a rare exclusive look inside the Trump 2020 reelection campaign. CNN's Chief Political Correspondent Dana Bash sat down with the President's campaign manager to find out what the strategy is.
DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Across the Potomac River in this sleek Virginia office base, the Trump campaign office Brad Parscale is quietly building a massive reelection campaign far different from the insurgent 2016 operation. This is a real conditional as Donald Trump gets as operation versus 2016?
BRAD PARSCALE, TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Yes. It's traditional but not traditional. There's traditional senses to it that we now have an operation in time to build a building that has proper things. Last time it was not for any fault that some of the people run it but it's just a fly by night sometimes because he was going so fast. And this time we already know, we already have the president of the United States, we have to come to see, we know where we're going.
BASH: The Trump campaign never really ended.
TRUMP: I, Donald John Trump --
BASH: In a highly unusual move, the President filed for reelection the day he was inaugurated. A year later, he hired Parscale who long worked with the Trump organization but never in politics before the 2016 campaign as a digital media director.
PARSCALE: I think, maybe for the candidates it wouldn't been right and maybe I'd never been here sitting in this chair and then you got a situation. But I wake up every day, I believe that I'm right guy for this situation.
BASH: In 2016, Parscale along with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner brought an unprecedented number of digital ads on platforms like Facebook, targeting their message. Thanks to a massive voter data vault. Reince Priebus started at the RNC which is still growing in a big part of the 2020 plan.
PARSCALE: And it now can -- you know, has hundreds of millions of records in voter history, consumer data. And when we put pointed into that machine and we say, this is what's happening. They can spend our models and saying, these are the people you need to talk to, this is the message that you should talk about to him about. Imagine as a country before with no roads and no maps and no directions. And all of a sudden you can lay here another piece of paper over and tells you where everything is.
BASH: How is different now?
PARSCALE: I think you see a massive injection directly into your devices and to the places we can communicate with you where you can't turn away.
[02:50:06] BASH: What do you mean by that?
PARSCALE: Text messaging, other technologies and other things. There's other --
BASH: Well that's -- I mean, Obama used that in 2008.
PARSCALE: Yes. But not to the scale. There's -- look, Facebook could used also. Only difference is the scale we used it. The precision we used it. And we can continue the scale precision.
BASH: Like stepping up technology turning rally goers into volunteers.
TRUMP: We had one election we won, now we're going to be two for O, and everything is going to be perfect.
PARSCALE: 10,000 people might watch in each rally. Those 10,000 might now 10 people, they might -- they are the army that wants to work for the President. And so we need to give them digital technology right on their phone as they're waiting for the President, while they're standing outside, whether it's couple days before when they're excited that interest -- their picking of, I'm going to go see the President and say, hey, here are some activities we'd like you to do.
Who of your 10 friends you do with, you know, it's much more efficient two years out to try to find a possible vote or possible donor. It's just a considerable advantage that the other side won't have because you just can't replace time.
BASH: It is still a family affair. Kushner has a leading role as do son Eric and his wife Laura, who has an official senior adviser title. But they all know who's really in charge. How involved is the President and this?
PARSCALE: And the president stays involved. When I show him the direction we're going, the things we're building, he's excited and he gives me in public, this is what you think we should be doing. He's always and I've always said he's the campaign manager, the communications director, the finance director, he is the master of the Trump train and I'm the conductor on that.
BASH: Dana Bash, CNN, Arlington, Virginia. CHURCH: Oh, beware of the smombies, those smartphone users who ignore
their surroundings. We will tell you how one city is trying to combat this growing problem. Back for that in just a moment.
CHURCH: Well, after topping the list as the most expensive city in the world for five straight years, Singapore has two new rivals, Paris and Hong Kong had tied with Singapore as the costliest places to live out of 133 cities. Zurich follows, Geneva and Osaka are fifth, Seoul, Copenhagen and New York tie for seventh. And Tel Aviv and Los Angeles come in 10th. Well, common prices do range across the cities though looking at the five most expensive, a loaf of bread and Singapore cost about $3.40 but in Geneva, it cost about $6.00 on average.
For a woman's haircut, those in Paris could pay around $119, while those in Zurich pay about $45.00 less on average. The economic and political crisis in Venezuela have made Caracas the cheapest city in the world. It replaces Damascus for the least expensive spot. Three Indian cities are also in the top 10 cheapest places to live, Bengaluru, Chennai and New Delhi.
Well, most of us have done it at one point or another, becoming so engrossed in our cellphones that we actually lose all awareness of where we are. Now a South Korean City is trying to protect distracted pedestrians with some high tech cross walks. Michael We have the report.
MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You may have seen videos like these, a pedestrian getting hit by a car while on a smartphone. Or this one, a woman walks into a poll on the sidewalk.
[02:55:00] Or a man nearly walks into a bear on the street. They call them smombies, smartphone zombies who text while walking. It's a global problem. And now a city in South Korea has found a high-tech solution. Ilsan, about 30 kilometers outside of Seoul has installed flickering lights and laser beams at a road crossing to warn smombies of potential accidents. Here's how it works, a radar sensor and a thermal imaging camera detect a smartphone user as he or she approaches the crosswalk.
Then a laser beam from a nearby power poll sends an alert to the pedestrian cell phone, warning of an approaching vehicle. And the red, yellow and blue lights on the road begin to flash alerting both the driver and the distracted pedestrian.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (through translator): This flickering light makes me feel safe, as it makes me look around again. And I hope that we can have more of these in town.
HOLMES: The warning system developed by South Korea's Institute of Civil Engineering and Building Technology is currently installed at one crossing in Ilsan but the developers expected to go nationwide soon. South Korea's Traffic Accident Analysis System says 1600 pedestrians were killed in traffic-related accidents and 2017. In a country where smartphone penetration is high, the developers hoped that the warning system will help bring down that number. Michael Holmes, CNN, Atlanta.
CHURCH: And Tel Aviv is also protecting its phone-obsessed citizens. The city installed light trips in the pavement of a central intersection, hopeful pedestrians will pay attention when crossing the street. They head of Tel Aviv's traffic management division says data collected in the past few days shows that it might be working. But not everyone agrees.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't believe it's going to help, the zombies are zombies. And when they look down, they simply looked down and they don't see anything.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I was crossing the road it didn't really do much of an effect on me. I was still occupied on the phone itself and I just wasn't paying attention to the light.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I crossed the street, it makes me pay attention to the traffic lights, to the cars, to the roads, everything around me. Great. Great solution.
CHURCH: Best solution, put the phone down while you cross the street. There it goes. Thanks for joining us. I'm Rosemary Church. I'll be back with another hour of news in just a moment. You're watching CNN. Do stay with us.