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New Zealand Bans Assault Weapons 6 Days after Mosque Attacks; Trump Again Attacks War Hero Sen. John McCain; Ex-Trump Aide Hope Hicks to Cooperate with Dem Probe; Justice Department Issues Subpoenas in Boeing Criminal Probe. Aired 6-6:30a ET

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[05:59:26] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. This is NEW DAY. It's Thursday, March 21, 6 a.m. here in New York. Alisyn is off. Erica Hill joins me, and we are waking up to breaking news thousands of miles away that will stir new debate and controversy here in the United States.

The government of New Zealand announced a ban on all military-style semiautomatic weapons, assault rifles, and high-capacity magazines. This action comes just six days after the terror attack there that relied on these capabilities to massacre 50 people praying in two mosques. Six days.

By comparison, the murders at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater were in July 2012; Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 2012; San Bernardino, 2015; The Pulse nightclub, June 2016; Las Vegas, October 2017; Sutherland Springs in November 2017; Parkland and Pittsburgh, last year.

In most cases, years ago, as opposed to days ago. And those looking for new measures to battle gun violence in the United States argue they have seen little here but stalemate and inaction.

ERICA HILL, CNN ANCHOR: As far the action in New Zealand, though, it could all be in place in just a matter of weeks.

The government there announcing, as part of its plan, that it does intend to push this gun policy, these changes through with urgency. The prime minister today also announcing a buyback program to take existing weapons out of circulation. Those who do not comply will face heavy fines or even imprisonment.

CNN's senior international correspondent, Ivan Watson, is live in Christchurch, New Zealand, with more on these breaking details -- Ivan.

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Erica.

The victims from last Friday's terrorist attack, not all of them have even been buried. There are still people delivering flowers here and crying at this makeshift memorial, and yet, the government has announced sweeping changes in the gun laws.

The prime minister here saying that the guns that were used to carry out this atrocity here in Christchurch will now all be illegal. Take a listen.

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JACINDA ARDERN, NEW ZEALAND PRIME MINISTER: Every semiautomatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on Friday will be banned in this country.

We do have guns in New Zealand that are used for legitimate purposes by responsible owners. I've been steadfast in my belief that the vast majority of these owners will support what we are doing here today. Because it's about all of us. It's in the national interest, and it's about safety.

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WATSON: This is so dramatic. The police commissioner said that people with gun licenses who owned some of these guns, as of 3 p.m. this afternoon, those guns are now illegal objects. So how are they going to convince people to hand in weapons? Well, they've already been urged --

BERMAN: We were listening to Ivan there. We cut off Ivan's sound there.

There are going to be gun buybacks. People are going to be urged to give those guns in. There will be more details provided by the New Zealand government over the next few days. We'll talk much more about this in just a bit.

Again, what's interesting here is the contrast to what is happening in New Zealand in just a few days, as opposed to the United States, where very little has happened, despite years of these types of attacks.

New this morning, even allies of the president are asking, "Why won't he stop?" Why won't the president stop attacking John McCain? What kind of example does it set when the commander in chief won't stop insulting a human being who passed away in August, let alone a decorated veteran who endured years of torture, endured years of torture as a prisoner of war? What does it say about the character of the president? How about the character of those around him letting it happen?

The new attacks come amid a series of notable fixations the president seems to have, including the Mueller report and the husband of a White House staffer.

Our Joe Johns is live at the White House. You know, it's just past 6, Joe. The president's been quiet so far. I don't expect it to last.

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: That's for sure, John. And you know, "fixations" is kind of the word when you think about it, because the big picture is really interesting here. The president of the United States just spending days on end obsessing

and complaining about a pair of American war heroes and the effect that they've been having on his life. Senator John McCain, the late Senator John McCain, who was a POW in Vietnam, as well as Special Counsel Robert Mueller who was a Marine captain in Vietnam and won a bronze star there.

The president has set this up as Donald Trump against two men who distinguished themselves decades ago as defenders of the United States. It's not clear what he's getting from this, and his allies even are asking him to stop.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: USA! USA! USA!

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, you better love me. I kept this place open.

JOHNS (voice-over): Standing before workers at a military tank factory, President Trump once again launching into a tirade about Senator John McCain, a Vietnam War hero who died of brain cancer nearly seven months ago.

TRUMP: So I have to be honest, I've never liked him much.

JOHNS: The president taking credit for McCain's funeral and complaining that he was never thanked.

TRUMP: I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted. I didn't get thank you. That's OK. We sent him on the way.

JOHNS: The president was not invited to the senator's funeral, and Meghan McCain has said she was surprised that the president's daughter and son-in-law attended.

MEGHAN MCCAIN, DAUGHTER OF JOHN MCCAIN: It made me uncomfortable; and I hope I made them uncomfortable.

JOHNS: Meghan McCain tweeting this photo of herself Wednesday night with the message, "Nothing breaks me," a reference to the moving story she told at her father's funeral about being thrown off her horse as a little girl.

MCCAIN: I look back across that time and see the expression on his face when I climbed back up and rode again. And I see the pride and love in his eyes as he said, "Nothing is going to break you."

JOHNS: Despite the president's vitriol, the majority of Republicans remaining silent. McCain's close friend, Senator Lindsey Graham, choosing not to condemn President Trump. SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: I think the president's

comments about Senator McCain hurt him more than they hurt the legacy of Senator McCain. I'm going to try to continue to help the president.

JOHNS: "The Washington Post" reports that some close to the president have attributed his frustrations to worrying over the looming report from Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which the president said Wednesday he wants publicly released.

TRUMP: Let it come out. Let people see it. That's up to the attorney general.

JOHNS: Mr. Trump claiming that he should not have to deal with the investigation due to his, quote, "tremendous Electoral College victory."

TRUMP: I got 63 million votes. And now somebody just writes a report? I think it's ridiculous. But I want to see the report.

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JOHNS: And of course, there's even more on the back and forth between George Conway, the husband of presidential adviser Kellyanne Conway, and the contest, if you will, of words between him and the president.

The president called George Conway a whack job on departure to Ohio just yesterday. Kellyanne Conway, for her part, defending the president in an interview.

Back to you, John.

BERMAN: All right. Joe Johns for us at the White House.

Want to bring in Karoun Demirjian, congressional reporter for "The Washington Post" and a CNN political analyst.

And Karoun, this isn't sixth grade, OK. This is the White House. This is the commander in chief. And the president's event yesterday in Lima, Ohio, was an official White House event. Official business of the United States of America; and he uses that platform, in front of that audience, to attack John McCain. I think it left a lot of people scratching their heads.

KAROUN DEMIRJIAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I think so, except for -- I mean, really, because John McCain passed so many months ago, and the president still hasn't let this go. This is the normal rivalry that we saw when McCain was alive, and Trump never could really like him and stop insulting him. But clearly, that hasn't ended, which means that, you know, Trump, we knew he couldn't let things go, but it never dawned on us quite how far that would go.

To expect a thank you from the family of a deceased man because you let him fly on a plane when he would normally get those honors, not really something that you should still be grousing about seven months later. BERMAN: And it is striking to me. There have been a few Republicans

who have stood up and said something. Mitt Romney put out a tweet. Johnny Isakson called it deplorable. And Mitch McConnell put out a statement honoring John McCain.

But there is still relative silence there. John McCain served with many of these men in Congress for years, men and women in Congress for years, and they're all remaining silent. Why?

DEMIRJIAN: It seems like they just want to hide from this. There's so many things that the president says that they don't want to have to engage him on, because they want to be able to stick with him as much as they can for various policy things and because 2020 is looming.

But in this one, yes, it's surprising. This is an easy thing to defend against. And the fact that so many people are not doing it makes you wonder how many people are just trying to shrink back and avoid the president in these situations or whether that's actually something that's respectable or not as a position to take is open to question as you are.

BERMAN: It's funny, because I did have someone close to a U.S. senator Republican tell me, you know what, he just doesn't like to touch this stuff if they can avoid it. They just want to stay as far away from it as they can.

But in the bigger picture, it's really interesting over the last week. You know, CNN put the president's economic approval at 71 percent, yet he's attacking John McCain, who died in August. He's going after the husband of a White House staffer, you know, George Conway. He is talking about the Mueller report. He can't seem to focus on something that might help him.

DEMIRJIAN: No. But it's also up to speculation as to what that might be that he could focus on that would actually make all of this go away.

Yes, he started the McCain thing, and he started the George Conway thing, although he could have ignored the Twitter account of Conway. He's not been exactly silent about picking on the president.

But Trump is not very good at avoiding his own distractions. Sometimes they're useful for him when he wants to avoid bad press on something, to dig into the Russia probe. But sometimes he's creating his own mess. And at this point, it seems like he hasn't really got control over which message is supposed to be dominant.

BERMAN: You know, his supporters say he can walk and chew gum at the same time. As far as we can see this week, there's only gum. That's the thing. All right, Karoun.

DEMIRJIAN: He's getting stuck in it.

BERMAN: Right. We'll talk to you again in a little bit. Thanks, Karoun.

DEMIRJIAN: Thank you.

HILL: Hope Hicks is cooperating with Democrats in their investigation of possible obstruction by President Trump. The former White House communications director agreed to turn over documents to the House Judiciary Committee.

[06:10:05] CNN's Kara Scannell is live in Washington with more on this development. Kara, good morning.

KARA SCANNELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Erica. That's right. So Hope Hicks, one of Donald Trump's closest aides, has agreed to cooperate with the House inquiry where Democrats have asked her to turn over her diaries, her journals, and notes that she had taken as part of a wide-ranging document request covering a range of topics, including the false statements that former national security adviser Michael Flynn made to the FBI, the firing of former FBI director James Comey, the hush-money payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, as well as the drafting of these statements around -- surrounding the reasons for this Trump Tower meeting in 2016 between Donald Trump Jr. and the Russian lawyer.

Now, Hope Hicks has agreed to cooperate with the investigation, but the White House is still invoking executive privilege around some of these communications. The White House itself has not responded to the House committee's request, but the House Judiciary chairman, Jerry Nadler, told Anderson Cooper last night than invoking executive privilege is not a shield against any wrongdoing.

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REP. JERRY NADLER (D-NY), JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: It's fundamental law that executive privilege cannot hide misconduct. You cannot use the executive privilege to hide misconduct by the president or by anybody around him. And the Nixon case, which was decided 9-0 by the Supreme Court, was very dispositive on that point.

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SCANNELL: Now, Nadler has said that they've received a substantial number of responses from a large number of people. One entity that has been hesitant to respond to multiple congressional requests, the Trump Organization -- Erica.

HILL: Kara Scannell with the latest this morning. Kara, thank you.

Joining us know, Elie Honig, former federal prosecutor and a CNN legal analyst.

Elie, as we look at this, the development that Hope Hicks is going to cooperate, that is big, given what Kara just laid out of the noncooperation has received from the White House and even the Trump Organization.

What do you think is most interesting in terms of what Hope Hicks may give them? ELIE HONIG, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: She's sort of perfectly situated to be

a devastating witness against the president and those around him, particularly on the obstruction of justice inquiry.

So Hope Hicks was inner inner circle. She was inside the room when some of these key conversations and decisions were made. And as a prosecutor, that is the best kind of cooperating witness. Someone who can take you into the inner sanctum where the decisions were made.

And if I'm investigating this case, I'm looking at two things in particular with Hope Hicks. No. 1, after that Trump Tower meeting in June of 2016 where Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. and Manafort met with Russians to try to get dirt with Hillary Clinton, Hope Hicks was instrumental in putting together the false public statement, claiming that the meeting was actually about adoptions.

She worked directly with President Trump on Air Force One about that, and she was reportedly texting with Don Jr. on the ground about it. So I'd want to know all about that, and I want to see those texts.

And second of all, she was apparently in -- part of the decision- making process in the firing of Jim Comey, which is, of course, key to the obstruction, as well. So I'd want to know from her what was the real reason.

HILL: Two major moments. So we would all love to know those reasons, right? Especially be a fly on the wall when they get them.

The other -- another development, Politico is reporting that prosecutors are telling Rick Gates not to cooperate at this point with House Judiciary. Could come later.

Why would prosecutors tell a cooperating witness to not cooperate with another investigation?

HONIG: That's what I would do in if I was in the prosecutor's shoes here. Whenever you have a cooperating witness, especially if you plan to use them in the future. And this tells me these prosecutors have real plans for Rick Gates in the future as a cooperator. You want to keep them behind glass. You want to keep him locked away from other people.

You don't want that person out there being questioned publicly, being cross-examined, having their credibility attacked until you can put them on stand -- on the stand at the trial.

Now, they've already used Rick Gates at the Manafort trial, and I think this is another indicator. He withstood cross-examination. He's the only cooperating witness in this case so far who's taken the stand at trial, been cross-examined under oath by a very good defense lawyer and stood up. But the jury clearly credited Rick Gates, at least as to many of the accounts.

So all of this tells me that the prosecutors have real plans to use Rick Gates again, not just as a background witness, but as a trial witness. HILL: Really quickly, before I let you go, we just heard Jerry Nadler

say to Anderson Cooper, listen, executive privilege is not here to shield wrongdoing. But executive privilege hasn't been extensively tested in the courts. How do you see this playing out?

HONIG: Yes, so the last real test we had was 1974 with Richard Nixon, the opinion that opinion that Representative Nadler talked about. And he characterized it correctly. It is meant to protect national security, military secrets. It is not meant as a general shield against criminal liability.

But the big difference here is we have a completely different Supreme Court. All the justices from 1974 are gone now. We have a completely new court. And so I think the president's going to be banking on particularly his new people, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, to perhaps change that.

HILL: Elie, appreciate it. Thank you.

HONIG: Thanks, Erica.

BERMAN: A huge development overnight in all the questions surrounding Boeing. Justice Department prosecutors have issued multiple subpoenas in a criminal investigation of Boeing's FAA certification and marketing of 737 Max 8 planes. A criminal investigation. And this was launched after October's Lion Air disaster, even prior to the crash of the Ethiopian Airlines jet.

Our Jessica Schneider is live in Washington with the details here. Again, a criminal investigation.

JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, John. Good morning.

Criminal investigators wanted information from Boeing on its safety and certification procedures for the 737 Max, including details on its training manuals for pilots, plus, how the company marketed the aircraft.

So the Justice Department's criminal division, it is leading this probe along with the FBI field office in Seattle as these questions continue to compound and some new details are emerging about those two doomed flights.

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SCHNEIDER (voice-over): The criminal investigation into Boeing's 737 Max jets ramping up after a second deadly crash in five months, with sources briefed on the matter telling CNN that the Justice Department has issued multiple subpoenas related to the certification and marketing of Boeing's best-selling plane.

The criminal probe initially began last October after a Lion Air flight crashed in Indonesia. A Boeing spokesperson telling CNN earlier this week that the company does not comment on ongoing legal matters. The FAA announcing that Boeing will roll out a software patch and

pilot training program to address issues with the jet. Earlier, it said it expected a fix by April.

DENNIS MUILENBURG, BOEING CEO: We're taking action to fully reassure airlines and their passengers of the safety of the 737 Max.

SCANNELL: The Defense Department's inspector general also launching an investigation related to the U.S. manufacturer probing whether acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan, who was an executive at Boeing and worked there for more than 30 years, violated ethics rules by promoting Boeing over other military contractors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He clearly should not be schilling for Boeing products or saying bad things about the competitors of Boeing at the Defense Department.

SCANNELL: A spokesman telling CNN Shanahan welcomes the probe and has at all times remained committed to upholding his ethics agreement filed with the DOD.

SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: Do you support section investigation?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I do.

SCANNELL: Meanwhile, new details are emerging about the final moments of the doomed Lion Air flight. Reuters reports that the plane's crew can be heard on the cockpit voice recorder, desperately fighting for nine minutes to pull up the nose of the jet, which kept diving toward the sea, possibly due to a faulty sensor that triggered an automatic system on board.

Seemingly unaware that the plane's computers was causing the dives, Reuters reports that the pilots frantically scoured the operations manual, then said a short prayer before plunging into the sea.

The day before the crash the same plane had the same problem. Indonesian authorities confirmed that an off-duty pilot who was riding in the cockpit was able to step in, instructing crew to shut off the malfunctioning flight control system.

After being sent to maintenance, the jet was cleared to fly the next day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't understand why, at least, it wasn't test flown or brought up on the ramp and tested again.

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SCHNEIDER: And the chairman of Indonesia's safety agency just wrapped a press conference confirming some of those details about the doomed Lion Air flight back in October, but disputing reports about the conversations that were captured on the cockpit voice recorder, including that Reuters report that the plane's crew scoured the flight manual and prayed in the minutes before the crash. Now Erica, the Senate will have a hearing next week that will look

into the aviation safety as well as the grounding of these 737 Maxes -- Erica.

HILL: Jessica Schneider with the latest for us in Washington this morning. Thank you.

New Zealand is taking action on assault weapons just six days after a terror attack in that country left 50 people dead. Six days. So why has the U.S. done hardly anything after so many mass shootings over the span of 20 years? We'll discuss next.

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[06:22:49] BERMAN: All right. Breaking overnight, the prime minister of New Zealand announced a ban on all assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and military-style semiautomatic rifles. And this came just six days after 50 people were shot to death inside two mosques. Six days after the terror attack there.

And it stands in stark contrast to the stalemate here in the U.S. whenever the discussion comes to making changes after the many mass shootings here.

Karoun Demirjian is back with us. I want to bring in Symone Sanders. She was the national press secretary for Bernie Sanders in 2016. Scott Jennings is with us, former special assistant to President George W. Bush; also worked for Mitch McConnell.

And Karoun, to you first, again, what's notable here, without taking sides on gun violence prevention, what's notable here is the speed with which New Zealand is taking action here. Six days after a mass shooting. Twelve years ago, I mean, sorry, six years ago was Aurora. So, you know, the United States much slower, if it takes any action at all.

DEMIRJIAN: It's a remarkable difference. And it's also remarkable that you saw the leader of New Zealand just say that right immediately, that they were going to do something about their gun laws.

You've seen the leader of the opposition saying, "Yes, I like this idea that she's put out there," and really, it's been very smooth.

And every time there's a mass shooting that really makes us stop in our tracks -- whether it's Sandy Hook or Orlando or any of the other terrible mass killings that have happened -- we get into fights. And there's not that sort of clear leadership and clear unanimity that you've seen in New Zealand. So it's a stark difference.

HILL: You bring up such a great point about getting into fights, Karoun. And Scott, I want to throw this one to you. Why is it that it's so difficult to even have a conversation about common-sense gun legislation? That seems to be something that sets people off, and they say, "No, no, no, no, no, stop, stop. I can't even have a conversation." Why? SCOTT JENNINGS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, you used the term

"common sense." I think there's a lot of different views about what common sense means.

To some people common sense is banning guns or confiscating guns. To people who believe in ownership, that wouldn't be common sense at all. And even that terminology, I think, is relatively divisive.

I think the American system of government and our Constitution is much different than New Zealand's. They obviously have a system that allows them to ban and confiscate guns. Ours just doesn't allow for that.

[06:25:07] I think, really, the appetite in this country should be around policy changes. I think the common thread among a lot of American shootings, is that some system, some database, some process that has human input has broken down and allowed someone who shouldn't have a weapon to have a weapon. Someone with, say, mental health issues.

So I think that's probably the place where we're most -- most likely to find common ground. But it won't be around banning or confiscating guns. I think that's a political nonstarter in this country.

HILL: But there is actually a lot of common ground around having the conversation around, as you point out, some of the mental health laws. We've seen changes at the state level, not at the federal level, but at the state level. And think we even have some numbers on support in the United States that we can maybe pull up for certain types of gun legislation.

Symone, you know, so let's take the common sense, as Scott recommends, out of the conversation. Is there a place to start the conversation now using New Zealand as an example?

SYMONE SANDERS, CNN COMMENTATOR: Yes, I think there has to be a place. Look, so we should not have to wait until the next mass shooting in America. We don't have -- we should not have to wait until children are literally fleeing from schools or folks are running for their lives from mosques or the places where they pray to have a conversation about what we can do to make it more safe for folks to live their everyday lives.

Look, I do not actually think that it's out of the question to have a conversation about banning semiautomatic weapons. I think what's specific about what's happening in New Zealand and what was proposed is that it's about the capability of the weapon. And so what you saw a lot of the language that will be posed in the bills that will go through parliament will be about the capability.

So you saw bump stocks, for example. There was a topic of conversation in the United States a couple weeks ago -- a couple months ago, actually. And a conversation around banning bump stocks.

We saw universal background checks being passed in the United States House of Representatives just last month. And so there are, I think, common sense, common ground place where

folks can start that we don't have to, again, wait until the next mass shooting. But the idea that weapons of war should belong on the streets in America anywhere, I just think is a little farfetched.

BERMAN: I want to move on to a different subject, since we have a lot of to discuss, but I just want to say, to note what Anthony Scalia said in one of the landmark decisions on gun violence prevention. This is the Heller case. Because he set the standard for what can and can't be legislated when it comes to guns.

He says, "The Second Amendment does not protect those weapons not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes," and he singles out short-barreled shotguns.

He also says, "We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."

So, you know, Scalia who allowed for handguns to be -- or overturned a handgun ban in D.C., did say there are ways you can limit guns if you decide to. If you decide to.

Now, Scott brought up confiscation there. That isn't necessarily what the United States would do. But if there's a will, changes could be made. In New Zealand there was a will in six days.

I want to talk, Scott, to you about John McCain and about what the president has been saying about John McCain. It was notable to me that the president did this on an official White House trip yesterday. This wasn't some political rally. This was a White House organized, government-paid-for speech, and he attacked John McCain.

It seems to me that, at a certain point, that there would be Republicans who would stand up and say, "Stop. Stop this." Your thoughts?

JENNINGS: I think that it's not a good idea for the president to continue to go down this rabbit hole. It doesn't help him. It doesn't help the Republican Party. I think it offends a lot of veterans; it certainly offends a lot of Republicans. Although we have these conversations frequently regarding President Trump.

He says things that people cringe at or that they wish he wouldn't say, and then you have the conversation with yourself, if I speak out against him, if I say stop, is this going to modify his behavior?

And I think most Republicans, I think, John, that you're referencing, have concluded that it would not modify his behavior. It's beyond cringe worthy to hear someone speak of an American hero like John McCain in the way Donald Trump is. A lot of Republicans, certainly a lot of Democrats had a lot of policy differences with John McCain. The man is dead, the man sacrificed for our country. There's every reason to leave this alone.

And there's also every reason to believe the president won't, because this is what the president does.

But I think that it wouldn't matter, frankly, how many Republicans said, "Hey, man, stop doing this." In fact, that might make it even worse.

So I wouldn't expect this to go away. It's disappointing, I wish he wouldn't do it. It doesn't help the cause, and it certainly doesn't help him get reelected in 2020.

HILL: Symone, you want to weigh in quickly?

SANDERS: Yes. I think that, one, I believe that there's so such thing as too low for the president.

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