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More Than 80 Million People Under Threat from Severe Weather; Pete Buttigieg to Make Special Announcement Today; IRS Given 9-Day Deadline for Trump's Taxes; Americans Cry Foul Over Tax Refunds; The Masters Final Round Moved Up Due to Weather; Sergeant Cheats Death in Gun Fight After High Speed Chase; JFK and the Great Space Race. Aired 6-7a ET
Aired April 14, 2019 - 06:00 ET
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[06:00:18] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two children in Texas now confirmed dead after powerful storms moved through that area.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A family that was driving down on the residential street, unfortunately a tree, as they were driving down the street, fell across their car.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is what it is. Case about God's works. So just got to take the bitter with the sweet.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: House Democrats have just sent a new letter to the IRS demanding it turn over President Trump's tax returns.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that with the tax returns, it may open up a whole menu of options for oversight where to focus.
KELSI THORUD, WESH REPORTER: Sergeant Tom Dane was grazed by a bullet that went through his hat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn't know he was shot and he was standing in front of me, and he never retreated. He kept going forward toward the threat.
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY WEEKEND with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you. We are just learning of a third death now due to this deadly storm that is making its way across parts of the U.S. right now. And it is causing a big mess. Massive hail, tornadoes, damaging winds.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Now a sheriff's sergeant in another story here has cheated death after a bullet whips through his hat, grazing his head. This was a shootout after a high-speed chase. We'll show you that.
BLACKWELL: And unhappy returns. If you're not happy with your tax refund check this year, you are not alone. We take a look at the tax laws causing controversy as Monday's tax filing deadline is just one day away.
PAUL: We want to start, though, with these deadly storms that are pushing east right now. The severe weather threat is stretching from New York all the way to Florida. It's affecting 80 million people. Look at what's out there.
BLACKWELL (voice-over): Storms hammered east Texas on Saturday, destroyed some neighborhoods and killed at least two people. In Angelina County two children aged 3 and 8 died when a tree fell on the car. Police say their parents were in the front seat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The mom, she's like, help, help me. So I pulled her in the house and I saw down on the road that her husband is down there, so I ran down there to see what was going on and that's where I noticed that the tree had fallen on their vehicle. When I got down there, I mean, I saw the size of the tree and how it was on the car so I knew that, you know, it wasn't a good outcome.
BLACKWELL: There were several reports of injuries in nearby Robertson County after a tornado, with winds of up to 140 miles per hour touched down. Trees were pulled you up, roofs were torn off buildings, and the cinder block foundation was all that was left in one mobile home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The wall fell in on one of the girls, and her dad jumped in, pushed wall up, and it was horrible.
BLACKWELL: In Alto, Texas, the roof was ripped off an elementary school gym, and in Cattle Mounds the storm flipped over cars and left one family trapped in the rubble.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I was praying again. That big board back there in the backyard like shielded me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I heard my husband jump on a trailer. He was like, where are you? And I'm like, I'm buried up under all of this stuff.
BLACKWELL: Texas saw the beginning of the dangerous and severe storms that are forecast to slam parts of the southeast, Mid-Atlantic and Ohio River Valley this weekend. The powerful system will create the potential for life-threatening winds, strong tornadoes and large hail. Roughly 80 million people could be impacted.
Georgia's Augusta National Golf Club is included in the slight risk area as the Masters Golf Tournament concludes. Tournament organizers have moved up tee times for Sunday because of the storm threat. Final round golfers will play in threesomes off two tees.
TIGER WOODS, MASTERS FINAL-ROUND GOLFER: I don't remember playing in threesome, you know, in a final round of many championships so this will be a little bit different and, you know, with the forecast the way is going to be and it's going to be a tricky round of golf.
(END VIDEOTAPE) PAUL: We want to share some video that we're just getting in with you right now. This is from a storm chaser who just arrived in Hamilton, Mississippi. But take a look at this. Homes are flattened. There are large trees that have been snapped and then toppled. There is sheet metal, as you saw there, wrapped around the top of trees. And there are windows of vehicles that have been blown out.
BLACKWELL: And we're going to see more of this as the sun comes up.
Let's go now to meteorologist Allison Chinchar. She's in the Severe Weather Center. We're seeing some of the damage there in Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana. What more are you seeing?
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: A lot of similar damage in other states. Again, this stretch from Texas all the way to Alabama in the last 24 hours.
[06:05:05] Now some of this damage has been caused by straight line winds but the damage you just saw in that video, that is likely caused by a tornado. Same thing with this video from Alto, Texas. Yes, straight line winds can knock trees down, power lines, but some of the more significant damage to structures, that typically means it was more likely a tornado and in some cases a very strong tornado.
But tornadoes weren't the only thing we saw. Look at some of this hail. You had numerous reports of baseball-sized hail across many areas in Texas yesterday but what makes these unique is the weird shape. They're more like Star Bursts or some people even calling them sea anemones.
We had a lot of storm reports yesterday, over 100 total severe storm reports. Thirteen of those so far being reported tornadoes and that threat is going to continue to push east later on today.
Here is a look at the live radar. The system itself stretches from Michigan all the way down towards Florida. The strongest of the storms right now are located from Tennessee down to Florida. We still have some tornado watches in effect for at least the next several hours. However with that said further tornado watches are expected as the storm continues to progress off to the east.
This is going to be your main threat area for today. Severe storms expected from New York all the way down towards Florida. These yellow and orange colors, that's going to be more of your main bull's eye for the storms. We're talking again, damaging winds, large hail, and the potential for some isolated tornadoes.
Here is a look at that storm continues to progress east. So really kind of impacting the afternoon hours for places like Raleigh and Charlotte, whereas Atlanta would be more likely in the morning. Augusta again is also looking at the potential for severe weather.
Guys, the reason they did this was their best threat is the afternoon so the thought process is if you can push the match a little bit earlier and get those guys out in the morning hopefully they can finish up before the storms get in. PAUL: All right. Allison Chinchar, thank you so much for the heads
up. Everybody take good care out there. My goodness.
BLACKWELL: All right. Mayor Pete Buttigieg is expected to make it official today. He has a special announcement planned in South Bend, Indiana. That's where he's expected to officially get into an already packed crowd of Democratic presidential candidates.
Mayor Buttigieg is right now in third place after Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders in two new polls out in -- Iowa, I should say, and New Hampshire.
Plus Eric Swalwell, California congressman, has a kickoff rally in Dublin, California. This fourth-term congressman with a tough stance on gun control announced he is running for president. Did this last week.
Let's talk now. Julian Zelizer, CNN political analyst and historian at Princeton University, and Siraj Hashmi, commentary writer and editor for the "Washington Examiner" are with us.
Good morning, gentlemen.
JULIAN ZELIZER, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.
BLACKWELL: Julian, let me start with you because you write in your latest piece for CNN.com that in retrospect, his unexpected viability, speaking of Mayor Buttigieg, makes a lot of sense. Why?
ZELIZER: Well, for one, he is the antithesis of President Trump and there are some appeal to that for Democrats. He is thoughtful, he's deliberative, he's young, and he seems to think through his problems. This is also a moment of crisis in the minds of many Democrats and I think they are open to a wider range of candidates than normally you would see, and so I think those are two big factors that make this a little like 1976 when Carter came from nowhere or 2008 when Obama also came from nowhere to win the nomination.
BLACKWELL: Yes, Siraj, Mayor Buttigieg was elected twice in South Bend, a city of a little more than 100,000 people. New to the national stage. There will be questions about, you know, foreign policy, bon fides and many things. So he has a lot of serious questions to answer, although at the moment he seems to be on the come-up.
SIRAJ HASHMI, COMMENTARY WRITER AND EDITOR, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: Yes. I mean, and as Julian said, Obama did not have that much national recognition until he ran for Senate in 2004 and he ran about two, three years later for president and he had a lot of questions obviously about foreign policy. Of course his main platform was being against the Iraq war in 2003.
So Pete Buttigieg he definitely has a lot of questions to answer foreign policy wise, but he seems to have that well-rounded factor and he actually strives for bipartisanship in an era where most voters seem to think that poor leadership, at least according to Gallup, the top issue is that the government gridlock and bipartisanship and poor leadership as we're seeing right now from many of our elected officials is the top issue on many voters' minds at the moment. And Buttigieg seems to strive for bipartisanship above all.
BLACKWELL: Yes, Siraj, what is interesting here is the president has weighed in, obviously, on the Democratic primary with, you know, Biden and Sanders and O'Rourke and Warren and others. But he has not said that I know of anything substantial about Mayor Buttigieg.
[06:10:01] Is he someone that maybe the president is concerned about or Republicans are concerned about?
HASHMI: There are very few things to knock Buttigieg for. I mean, he served in the military, I believe in Afghanistan during the Afghanistan war and, you know, being an out-in-the-open gay man who has a husband, as he was married last year, there are very few things that Trump can actually hit him on because he is probably going to get the wrath of many Democrats if he tries to, you know, drag him through the mud like he's done with Elizabeth Warren, he's done with Hillary Clinton. You know? He doesn't have the same negatives or unfavorables that many of the other Democrats have had.
BLACKWELL: Julian, let's switch over to Congressman Eric Swalwell who has his first kickoff rally today in his hometown or the first place he was elected. He was, I guess, born in Iowa. In Dublin, California. Gun violence, he's made one of the top issues of his campaign. Now we know from poll that issues, as it relates to the issues, health care and the economy, are often at the top. What do you think about Eric Swalwell making gun control and gun violence a top issue?
ZELIZER: Well, look, this is a tough issue for Democrats in that it's certainly not one that will win a lot of crossover votes but it is an issue that really resonates with the Democratic Party. This is a problem that many people in the party face, feel has not been addressed, and I think there will be a lot of interest in having the issue as part of the mix.
I don't know if the congressman is going to gain traction as a candidate or just using that issue, but I think it's a healthy policy for Democrats to debate. There is a lot of support for gun control and it's a place they can clearly delineate where the Democrats are versus where the Republicans are.
BLACKWELL: You know, the big debate this weekend is about immigration and this plan that the president talked about, funneling migrants into sanctuary cities. More than just considering it which the president tweeted about, talked about at the White House on Friday.
Hogan Gidley, the deputy press secretary, was on FOX last night. It seems that they are moving forward with this. Watch.
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HOGAN GIDLEY, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY: We're working with DHS. We're working with ICE to try and make sure that happens, because after all it's what they want. They should not say this is retribution politically. They should say this is an olive branch.
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BLACKWELL: So that's the White House. Where are Republicans in large on this? I mean, there are some sanctuary cities or cities, blue cities in red states. I think about Atlanta where I am right now. The mayor signed an executive order ending the relationship with ICE. You've got two Republican senators, Republican governor. Are we hearing from Republicans at large on what this could pose for the party?
Julian, for you.
ZELIZER: Oh, no. I mean, we haven't heard much and it's -- look. There's two parts of it is, one, where are persons going to be relocated? But, second, is this use of presidential power. It's literally the bully pulpit. And it is political retribution. The president has been talking about it that way. And it is once again surprising, striking or stunning to see a certain amount of silence from the Republican Party about this use of authority, in addition to the actual implications of what he wants to do. So the party sits by the president as he exercises his power in unusual and many people feel misuse of power once again.
BLACKWELL: We will see if we hear more from the president today.
Julian Zelizer, Siraj Hashmi, thank you both.
ZELIZER: Thank you.
HASHMI: Thank you.
PAUL: Well, President Trump is denying that he offered a pardon to Homeland Security officials for breaking the law. He tweeted this. "I never offered pardon to Homeland Security officials. Never ordered anyone to close our southern border, although I have the absolute right to do so," he says. "And may if Mexico does not apprehend the illegals coming to our border. And I'm not frustrated."
Senior administration officials told CNN earlier that the president had offered to pardon the Customs and Border Protection commissioner chief if he was jailed for preventing asylum seekers from entering the U.S. Now a Department of Homeland Security spokesman has denied that allegation.
BLACKWELL: Well, President Trump is lashing out ahead of the release of the Mueller report. As the deck shuffles in the Democratic race as well for president, who's emerging from the 2020 pact? Join Jake Tapper for "STATE OF THE UNION" this morning at 9:00 Eastern right here on CNN.
PAUL: And the battle over the president's taxes is heating up. Democrats sent a new letter to the IRS demanding to see his finances with a deadline that's just days away at this point.
BLACKWELL: Plus, a car chase ends with a Florida sheriff's sergeant dodging a bullet.
[06:15:05] Look at that. His head was grazed in that shooting, knocked the hat off. Still ahead, what led up to this moment.
PAUL: And Tiger Woods is within striking distance at the Masters. He is going to have to change some his own history, apparently, to do this, to make this happen. Andy Scholes is live from Augusta National coming up.
PAUL: Nine days, that's how much time the Democrats are giving the IRS commissioner to release President Trump's tax returns. Now House Ways and Means Committee chairman Richard Neal re-upped this demand yesterday.
BLACKWELL: Yes. He told the commissioner, "I expect a reply from the IRS by 5:00 p.m. on April 23rd."
CNN White House correspondent Boris Sanchez joins us with more now from the White House.
Boris, good morning to you.
BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Victor and Christi. Yes, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee Richard Neal is digging in on his effort to get the president's tax returns.
[06:20:03] Yesterday he sent a letter to the IRS commissioner, setting up a second deadline after the first deadline came for the president's tax returns came and went. He's essentially requesting six years of Trump's tax returns and some tax returns related to the president's business interests -- interest, I should say.
Neal is essentially arguing that questions about the constitutionality of his request are invalid and that he has the right to make this request as the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
Look at part of the statement he sent out, he wrote, quote, "It is not proper function of the IRS, Treasury or Justice to question or second- guess the motivations of the committee or its reasonable determinations regarding its need for the requested tax returns and return information."
Of course, that is exactly what the secretary of the Treasury Department, Steve Mnuchin is doing. He's questioned the constitutionality of this request. He told CNN yesterday that this new deadline was just like the first one in that it was arbitrary. He's also said that he wanted to speak to the Department of Justice before handing over these tax returns. Yesterday he told CNN that he had yet to speak to Attorney General William Barr.
This sets up an unprecedented legal fight over the president's tax returns, one that as we've heard from sources here at the White House, they are prepared to go to the Supreme Court to protect -- Victor and Christi.
PAUL: All right. Boris Sanchez, thank you.
BLACKWELL: Well, 2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says he will release his tax returns tomorrow. Senator Sanders has recently been criticized for highlighting that he's now a millionaire and critics say his growing wealth undermines his political message.
PAUL: Sanders talked about this, he addressed this at an event in Indiana yesterday.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I didn't know that it was a crime to write a good book.
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SANDERS: Which turned out to be a best-seller. I don't apologize for writing a book that was -- of the three of the "New York Times" best- seller translated into five or six languages. And that's that.
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PAUL: Now the Sanders campaign has stressed his criticism of billionaires and wealthy corporate interests, that has not changed.
BLACKWELL: Well, with all the talk of taxes, you know that tax day is tomorrow. But --
BLACKWELL: Yes. Sorry.
BLACKWELL: But if you've already filed and you are not happy with that refund, you're not alone.
PAUL: CNN's Polo Sandoval explains.
POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If you haven't submitted your taxes yet, heads up. You may be in for a smaller refund. The government's early filing data shows the IRS has paid $6 billion less in refunds this tax season, a 3 percent drop over last year. The data shows the average refund paid out through the end of March was about 2800 bucks, roughly $20 less than 2018.
Blame the new tax law that adjusted IRS withholding tables in early 2018. The result was Uncle Sam taking a little less out of some people's paychecks during most of last year. The Brookings Institute estimates 80 percent of Americans paid an average of $2100 less in taxes in 2018. The reduction was applied to paychecks throughout the year versus a large single lump-sum refund check, meaning taxpayers may feel a bigger pinch this refund season, explain financial planner Tim Steffen.
TIM STEFFEN, DIRECTOR OF ADVANCED PLANNING, BAIRD: Which obviously doesn't feel the same. But it works the same ultimately. It's the same dollar amount that you would have gotten back. You just got it in smaller pieces so it's maybe not as noticeable for a lot of people.
SANDOVAL: Getting to keep more of your income throughout the year is a good thing but financial experts expect plenty of disappointment as people often look at refunds as a sort of forced savings plan, using the extra money to pay for mortgages, bills, or maybe that family get- away.
MELISSA VELEZ, TAXPAYER: I usually pay my -- the house insurance in full, car insurance in full for the year. And that still leaves me extra to go on a nice vacation.
SANDOVAL: Taxpayers like Melissa Velez can still do that next year, says Steffen.
STEFFEN: But instead of doing it in a lump sum at the end of the year when you get your refund, do it as part of a monthly automatic withdrawal out of your paycheck or out of your checking account or something like that. It's probably a better way to save anyways to do it on a regular monthly basis or recurring basis rather than a one- time-a-year thing when you have some extra cash.
SANDOVAL: The size of your refund may also depend on the political dynamics of your state because the new tax law which causes people in states with high tax rate to receive lower refunds, according to Steffen, states with the highest tax rates tend to be more blue than red so people living in red states are getting bigger refunds this year.
Polo Sandoval, CNN, New York.
PAUL: Now next hour, Michelle Singletary, personal finance columnist for the "Washington Post," is going to be with us. She's talking about tax day, about why you may expect to get a refund and end up actually having to pay.
PAUL: Which is really, I'm sure, more jolting than otherwise.
[06:25:03] BLACKWELL: Because people sometimes just count this, as that woman said, pay the big bills.
BLACKWELL: It's like a savings that --
PAUL: You count on it.
BLACKWELL: That they were waiting for. PAUL: Absolutely.
BLACKWELL: All right. So we will have that next hour.
But still to come this hour, powerful storm pounding the U.S. Homes are damaged, power lines are down. Look, this is just coming in from Hamilton, Mississippi, on the Eastern side of the state, near the Alabama line. Trees ripped in half in some communities. We'll tell you where this is heading next.
PAUL: And this video, I mean, it shows inches from death for this Florida sheriff's sergeant. His hat is shot off, his head is grazed by a bullet during a shoot-out. We have more of this video for you. Stay close.
PAUL: A breaking news this morning. The threat of severe weather is turning into a deadly storm. Eighty million people from New York to Florida are in the path of this thing.
[06:30:04] Three people we know are dead as a result of these storms. One in Louisiana, in Texas two children ages 3 and 8 were killed when a tree fell on their car. And we're just getting word of multiple confirmed fatalities in Monroe County. That's from a spokesperson with the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency.
BLACKWELL: So of course that number will increase unfortunately. And we've got new video now from Monroe County. Hamilton, specifically. You see homes here ripped apart. Large trees down. Windows of vehicles and mobile homes we know have been blown out.
We have on phone with us Cecil Cantrell, sheriff of Monroe County in Mississippi.
Sheriff Cantrell, first good to know that you're OK. Thank you for spending a couple of minutes with us. Tell us what you're seeing there. I understand you described to our producers that it is a mess there.
SHERIFF CECIL CANTRELL, MONROE COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI: Well, actually, what we're doing is waiting until daylight comes. We know we've got probably over a hundred homes that has either been destroyed or structural damage. We do know that we have -- at least one fatality. We have trees down all over the county, especially in the south and the eastern part and northern part of our county. Of course, we got electric lines down, power poles down. It's very serious situation. Trees all over the road. This is -- it's just really bad here.
PAUL: I know that you had a heads up regarding this coming. Is there an indication that people really took that information to heart that they were prepared for this?
CANTRELL: I think a lot of people did. I think most of the people down in our part of the country, we have a lot of storms and weather conscious. But, you know, still some folks say well, it's not going to hit here, so you just don't ever know. You don't know about that. I think that a lot of people do, though, yes.
BLACKWELL: So you said that you're going to be waiting until the sun comes up to go out and see the full breadth of the damage, but are there, that you know of, rescues and responses happening right now?
CANTRELL: We've got search and rescue here. We have the Highway Patrol here. We have multiple agencies. We have sheriff's departments from other counties and other cities that have sent people and we have some people. We're on the Alabama line right here. Some of the fire departments from Alabama over in the Sulligent, Vernon, and that area, they're here helping us.
And we have got a lot of people on the ground. We got a lot of boots on the ground out at this point. And it's -- of course, you can't really tell everything. I mean, you can't -- some roads you can't even get down because so many trees across the road.
PAUL: I know you're probably about half an hour from daylight. Do you know or do you have a gauge of what your most urgent need is going to be in the next few hours?
CANTRELL: Well, you know, at this point, we just know we're going to need some supplies for these people that are -- you know, some of the people are going to be homeless, probably it looks like. We're going to have some misplaced people so, you know, that's number one, trying to take here the people that have been misplaced at this point, making sure that they have a place to stay and water and all of the necessities at this point.
That's what we're really looking to help these people. Of course we know there are several that were taken to the hospital, so I don't know exactly what kind of number on that. But we know several people went to the hospital for injuries. But we are just kind of standing by at this point and just waiting for it to get daylight so we can really assess the damages.
PAUL: Do you have any flooding, sir?
CANTRELL: Do what, ma'am?
PAUL: Did you have any flooding there?
CANTRELL: Any flooding, yes, ma'am. The roads, we had several roads that were flooded. As a matter of fact there is a town on north of here, it was flooded. The whole town was about flooded. We do have some water in some houses and we have rescued some people that were in those houses, but it's a very serious storm that came through here. I mean, it's a miracle that we don't have more that we have confirmed killed at this point. But right now, we just know it's one person has not survived in that.
BLACKWELL: So that -- it would be the fourth death confirmed now in this run of storms that is going across the country.
Sheriff Cecil Cantrell there in Monroe County, Mississippi, again, glad you are OK. Thank you so much for spending a couple of minutes with us and we'll check back with you after you get a look and get to work once the sun comes up.
PAUL: Take care, Sheriff. Thank you so much.
CANTRELL: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
[06:35:02] BLACKWELL: Also just want to remind you that we got from the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency that there are multiple confirmed fatalities, multiple injuries also in Monroe County from the weather. The Emergency Management Agency has not put a number to those but again one in Louisiana, one death in Louisiana, two children killed when a tree fell on a car in Texas, and now one additional confirmed from the sheriff there. But the number in Mississippi will increase as we learn more throughout the morning.
PAUL: And of course, as you saw there by the map, this storm is moving east. It doesn't seem to be losing any of its potency. And in its path, the Masters.
BLACKWELL: Yes. And tens of millions of people as well. But let's talk about the Masters. Tiger Woods poised to win his first major in more than a decade.
Andy Scholes is live from Augusta this morning. Some changes being made to accommodate or try to get as much play in before the storm hits.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Victor and Christi. Those severe storms are expected to hit here in Augusta around 2:00. So they had to move up the final round in order to try to finish it today.
The players are going to tee off at 7:30 a.m. Eastern this morning and they're going to go from holes one and 10 and instead of pairs for the final round, they're going to go out in threesomes, the first time it's ever happened in Masters history.
Now Tiger Woods, he will be in the final threesome to go out later on this morning. He's going to tee off 9:20 Eastern. And you know he's pumped up to try to win his first major since 2008. He says he's probably going to wake up at 3:45 a.m. today to try to get ready.
Tiger had a great round three yesterday to get to 11 under for the tournament. And every time he's reached that mark here at the Masters after round three he's gone on to win. I followed Tiger around yesterday and nearly every person here cheering their hearts out for him. Tiger, he had a big smile on his face for much of the round and after his round yesterday, I asked Tiger how much fun he was having out there.
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WOODS: It was a blast. I mean, I was able to, you know, let the round build and, you know, methodically work my way around this golf course and put myself in a good spot. You know? It's a little different than being 23. I certainly had a lot more years ahead of me and, you know, at 43, I don't. It's just reality. (END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHOLES: Yes, Tiger two shots back heading into today's final round. He's never won a major without a share of the lead heading into the final round. And today he is going to be chasing this guy, Francesco Molinari, from Italy. He was on fire yesterday getting to 13 under. Molinari's first appearance at the Masters, get this, was in 2006 and that year he was a caddie for his brother, 13 years later he's in position to win the tournament. And Molinari talked about going head- to-head against Tiger today.
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FRANCESCO MOLINARI, HOLDS A TWO-STROKE LEAD OVER TIGER, TONY FINAU: It's going to be a battle. There is him, there's a lot of guys, and like I said, yes, it's great but, you know, it's a different tournament, different cause. A few months has passed by and anything can happen tomorrow.
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SCHOLES: All right. And the leader board just remains stacked with big names. Eleven guys within five shots of the lead.
Victor and Christi, we should have a fantastic finish here today in Augusta. Just hoping that the players out there can beat the storms.
PAUL: Yes. You take care of yourself, Andy, you and the crew out there. Everybody who's out there. Because as we've seen these are some are wicked storms here.
SCHOLES: All right.
PAUL: And we're going to keep you posted throughout the morning. We're getting new video, we're getting new information. We'll keep you abreast of what's going on.
In other news this morning, as well, Hillary Clinton, Fareed Zakaria, one-on-one, from the Mueller report, the 2020 race. The former Democratic candidate for president, she's talking about all of it. "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS" this morning, 10:00 Eastern right here CNN. We're back in a moment.
[06:43:29] BLACKWELL: This was an extremely close call for a sheriff's sergeant in Florida. This body cam video of the moment a bullet tore through his head and grazed his head. And now we're learning new information about the carjacking suspect and how this whole dramatic scene unfolded.
Kelsi Thorud from CNN affiliate WESH in Orlando has the story.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone is northbound high rate of speed 415. SHERIFF MIKE CHITWOOD, VOLUSIA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: The scary
part of this is, as you can see, it's a two-lane highway, north and south. It's 2:30 in the afternoon.
THORUD: Sheriff Mike Chitwood says the video picks up as the department's chopper is overhead 30-year-old Phillip Marsh after Marsh has just hijacked a woman in Deltona.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He held that gun really high, guys, so make sure he doesn't slam in your cars right at the point.
CHITWOOD: You know, he's running for his life. Probably speeds are up to 80, 90 miles an hour.
THORUD: In the video you see Marsh swerving through traffic, at one point even towards a deputy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got a hit. I got a hit. He swerved at me but I got a hit on the front tire.
CHITWOOD: Is Tommy got a hit? Air one is telling the people who are positioned outside the road how many seconds before they get to where he's going to place the stop sticks.
THORUD: Eventually Marsh is forced to stop in the middle of State Road 44.
CHITWOOD: He'll jump out, gun to his head, and he starts running toward the black SUV, the guy seized it, makes a move. Deputy McDaniels pushes him back toward us and he is firing that whole time. That is Tommy getting shot.
[06:45:03] THORUD: Sergeant Tom Dane was grazed by a bullet that went through his hat.
CHITWOOD: See his hat go off and his head go back? That's where Tommy got hot.
THORUD: Sheriff Chitwood says Marsh was shot multiple times.
CHITWOOD: We're able to disarm him and we have deputies that are CPR and first-aid trained. They intubate him. They were putting pressure on wounds. Sergeant Dane realizes he's hit and says I got to go and get some help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I got hit with a bullet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Seven air one, can you land that, police?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We do Medevac.
THORUD: Sergeant Dane was air-lifted to the hospital where he was treated and released. Marsh died from his injuries.
CHITWOOD: Last night when I watched the body camera video over and over and over again, it really hammers home the bravery, the leadership. I mean, you see no panic there.
BLACKWELL: Wow. That was Kelsi Thorud reporting.
Now deputies say the suspect had been reported missing and suicidal earlier in the week and he had reportedly threatened to commit suicide by cop.
PAUL: So as we approach the 50th anniversary of the moon landing, historian Douglas Brinkley gives us the story behind his new book "American Moonshot," one of the most ambitious achievements in the history of human kind. This is really interesting. Stay close.
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JOHN F. KENNEDY, FORMER UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things. Not because they are easy but because they are hard.
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PAUL: From JFK's words to the moon. More than 500 million people worldwide watched as Neil Armstrong and the Apollo 11 crew made that lunar landing. This summer marks the 50th anniversary since the monumental event and now there's a new book telling the back story of that mission.
[06:50:05] I spoke with CNN presidential historian and author Douglas Brinkley about his new book, "American Moonshot: John F. Kennedy and the Great Space Race."
PAUL: So first and foremost just give us an overview of this book, how JFK saw space exploration as a way really to set himself apart from his political peers at the time?
DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, CNN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: You know, Senator John F. Kennedy in the late 1950s seized on this Sputnik satellite that the Soviets had put up in 1957 to say we're losing the space race. Well, there's a missile gap and he used this issue over and over again like a club on Eisenhower and Nixon. When he eventually procures the Democratic nomination in 1960 at the Los Angeles Convention, space exploration becomes a major tenet in his ability to beat Nixon. And in fact in one of the debates he says directly to Vice President Nixon, if you're elected I see a Soviet flag on the moon. If I'm elected, there will be an American flag planted on the moon.
PAUL: Yes. No doubt about it. What about -- let's listen to the case that's being made today by Vice President Mike Pence?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is the stated policy of this administration and the United States of America to return American astronauts to the moon within the next five years. Some will say it's too hard, it's too risky, it's too expensive. But the same was said back in 1962.
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PAUL: So what's the difference in messaging here? I mean, what did, say, JFK do well?
BRINKLEY: Well, you know Kennedy was a master salesperson going to the moon. I mean, at my University of Rice he spoke in front of 40,000 people in the stadium and made a big challenge. We choose to go to the moon not because it's easy, because it's hard. And he connected space exploration to Christopher Columbus and Magellan and Louis and Clarke. It's a brand-new age of discovery, public discovery. He called space the new ocean.
You'd have to put a lot of character, momentum and prestige on going to the moon or doing something big. Vice President Pence was right to go to Huntsville, Alabama, and say five years we might go back but he didn't inflame the imagination. Perhaps we should be talking about the first woman on the moon. You know, we've had other moon walkers but no woman has ever been there.
So there are things that the Trump administration could do to excite the public, mainly they need to fund NASA. Back in the 1960s NASA had about 4.4 percent of the annual federal budget. Today it's a third of 1 percent.
PAUL: So there's -- this cost $180 billion, $185 billion in today's currency, of course, were it to happen today and there's a lot of push and pull in Congress regarding that. But Vice President Pence did mention advancements by Russia, by China. Where does the U.S. stand in the space race right now?
BRINKLEY: Well, one of the things Kennedy had going for him is that it was bipartisan because we all wanted to win the Cold War, we wanted to beat Russia, we wanted to prove the democratic capitalism was superior to totalitarianism. But right now with the U.S., China is our biggest competitor. They are going to the dark side of the moon. They have the technology to lead the world in space exploration.
So it'd be interesting to see if we start getting moved forward in going to Mars, going back to the moon because of China if we use this kind of sports metaphor, beating them, whether that will be the prod that actually accomplishes going back to in space in earnest.
PAUL: Doug, you know, I know that you interviewed key figures whom without their work this would not have happened back in the day, it wouldn't have been successful. What is your takeaway from those interviews? What do you think you learned that perhaps surprised you?
BRINKLEY: You know, that many of the astronauts thought they were going to the moon but they were really in awe of seeing earth. You know, this blue-green fragile planet out there, we're all alone in the universe and they had a kind of spiritual epiphany, many of them, and there was a connection to the environmental movement. They came back and said let's save the earth.
Today the new moonshot might be an earth shot, it might be that we have to start saving our oceans and forest and have clean air and get rid of toxic waste. So, you know, it was really that part of it that I didn't fully comprehend. And also how much NASA in the '60s built tech quarters in the south, in coastal Florida, and in Houston, San Antonio, Alabama, Mississippi. They had a strategy that there needed to be technology based space exploration, money, space hardware from the southern zone and that was because Kennedy wanted to win that region when he ran for re-election in 1964.
[06:55:09] PAUL: So interesting. Great book. Douglas Brinkley, "American Moonshot: JFK and the Great Space Race," already on the "New York Times" best-sellers list. Congratulations to you. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us, Doug.
BRINKLEY: Thank you.
PAUL: We're so glad to have you here. Thanks for watching.
BLACKWELL: Much more ahead in the next hour of NEW DAY SUNDAY which starts after the break.
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