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19-Year-Old Suspect Arrested After One Killed, Three Hurt; 60- Year-Old Woman Killed In Shooting Identified As Lori Kaye; Sri Lanka Hold Vigils For Easter Bombing Victims; Trump: My "Sick Idea" To Send Immigrants To Sanctuary Cities; Four Dead After Falling Crane Crushes Cars; Marvel Film Breaks Box Office Record with $644M Opening Day. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired April 28, 2019 - 06:00   ET

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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: One minute after the hour, thank you so much for being with us. This morning, investigators are scouring the background of 19-year-old John Earnest. He is the suspect in that hateful attack on a religious holiday of a synagogue in San Diego.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, investigators say that he started shooting during a Passover celebration, killed one person, injured three others before calling 911 to identify himself to police. Now, as they review a manifesto, this open letter written by the shooter possibly online, authorities are now working to find out if the suspect had anything to do with the fire at a nearby mosque last month. They're also taking extra steps to keep local places of worship safe.

PAUL: The attack come six months to the day after 11 people were murdered at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh.

BLACKWELL: Now, we're learning more about the victims in the shooting. A woman killed as she step in front of a wounded Rabbi, a child hit by shrapnel a few years after a swastika, several swastikas were painted on her family's home.

PAUL: And there was another worshiper injured in this shooting who said if the shooter's gun hadn't jammed, more children would have been shot. We want to go live to Poway, California now CNN National Correspondent, Nick Watt is there. Nick, I know that it's dark there. I know that it's early there, what are you hearing though about this today?

NICK WATT, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, listen, this is now a community in shock. As the local mayor here said, he said, "This is not Poway. This is not what our town is. We live side by side. We live in harmony. I mean, that is the Chabad center right there. Next door, there's a Greek Orthodox Church, next to that there's another church.

This morning and throughout this weekend, there will be more sheriff deputies posted at religious sites across this county, not because there's a particular threat but just to try and make people feel safe and we are hearing much more this morning about those victim. I'm going to start with that lady, Lori Kaye, 60-year-old woman who died. We spoke with one of her friends, a friend of 25 years who said that as the Rabbi was being on the gurney going into the operating theatre he said that this woman saved his life.

The Rabbi who is 57 years old had been apparently hit in the hand and at that point Lori Kaye jumped between him and the shooter at she was hit. She was at the service that morning, partly to say the morning prayer, the Kaddish prayer for her own mother who died just last November. She leaves behind a husband and a daughter.

And another just horrific detail regarding her husband. Her husband is a physician. He was in the Chabad that morning, that Chabad center that morning. He saw somebody being shot, he ran over, this is according to the friend. He ran over to perform CPR on the person who'd been shot not realizing that it was his wife. When he realized, apparently, he fainted.

Let's hear a little bit more from another member of the congregation, a little bit more about Lori Kaye.

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FRED NASSEN, CONGREGATION CHABAD MEMBER: Friendly. She was welcoming. She was perhaps one of those people that you want to know as a friend. I can't say anything mean or bad about her. When I think of her, I can only smile. All I can say the community lost a great soul.

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[06:04:44] WATT: And the other victim was a nine-year-old girl, Noya Dahan. Now, she was there Saturday morning with her family. With her two sisters and her uncle was also injured. Her uncle apparently says that if the gunman's rifle hadn't jammed that more kids would have been killed. He apparently says that he saw the shooter aiming at the children at which point he grabbed them, he opened the doors, he told the children to flee. They got out. He was hit in the hand.

Now, that uncle, Almog Peretz, he was visiting from Israel for Passover. Visiting from a town called Sderot, which back in the early 2000s was a regular target of rockets coming in from Gaza. Now, his sister and kids, they move here to the United States to look for more peaceful way of life and they move to a town near here. First when they came to the U.S., they had swastikas dogged on their house. They moved here to Poway thinking that it would be safer.

Now, Noya Dahan's father has told CNN that now his kids are saying, "We don't want to live here anymore. This is not safe. This is not where we want to live." They came here for safety. They came here for a better life and now they're saying this isn't a better life. Back to you.

BLACKWELL: Nick Watt for us there in Poway. Nick, thank you very much.

PAUL: And we need to make note that this happened on the last day of Passover. The Jewish community are taught the importance of welcoming strangers into their homes.

BLACKWELL: And joining us now to talk about what this shooting means for congregations all over the world, Rabbi Yossi New, Regional Director of Chabad Georgia. Rabbi, thank you for coming in and I want to start there, this shooting in Poway, six months after the shooting in Pittsburgh and all of the growing number of anti-semitic acts in between, what's your reaction to what you're seeing? The specific and the trend.

YOSSI NEW, REGIONAL DIRECTOR, CHABAD OF GEORGIA: First of all, we have to think of the victim and their family and to offer our condolences. We have to offer our prayers to the victims that they should heal quickly. And then I have an appeal to synagogues and houses of worship here in the United States and all over the world because this was a Chabad synagogue but it's obvious that it was chosen not because it was Chabad, but because it's Jewish and it was random in that sense and it's vital and imperative that synagogues assess and evaluate their security to assure they have the utmost safety for people attending synagogue.

We have a saying that God helps those who help themselves. And then beyond that our tradition teaches us that every time a calamity or tragedy happens, we have to be introspective also and we have to ask ourselves, "How can I become better, how can I become stronger as a result of this?" And it's a challenge to everyone in this country, especially our leaders on both sides of the aisles to ensure that the dialogue in this country is peaceful and even when we disagree that we do so respectfully.

And beyond that, I think, we have to look at violence in this country and I'm talking specifically in entertainment industry. How children, anyone who is being entertained primary with violence on television, video games. I'm not an expert in this field, but there has to be a connection.

PAUL: There's also that conversation that's always being had about gun control, but addressing the guns, the weapons is very different than addressing the hate.

NEW: Correct.

PAUL: How do you do that when you talked about asking yourself questions and being introspective in the hours after something like this? Where do you go? Where do you find your answers?

NEW: It's a great question and, of course, when tragedy like this happens it deeply saddens us and in a way it seems so overwhelming that the world is filled with this hatred and this violence. But the truth is that the power of good, the power of light is greater. There's a wonderful saying in our tradition that a little dispels much darkness and we should not be intimidated by this in any way and believe in the power of good, in the power of good deeds and the power of love to triumph hate.

BLACKWELL: One would expect that a 19-year-old wouldn't go from zero to a hundred without there being some examples, a meme sent or forwarded and a joke that was racist or off-color. What is your advice to people when they hear it at that level before it become something that is manifested like what we saw yesterday?

NEW: Nip it in the bud and I just think that we have to somehow understand or address how we balance free speech and freedom together with a responsibility to ensure that we have a society that is safe.

PAUL: We were listening to Nick Watt there talk about Mr. Peretz and how he talked about these children, more children who would have been injured. There's also part of that story where he had ushered some of these children out but there were two children who were missing for 45 minutes because they were still hiding. They are safe, fortunately. How do you talk to children about this, especially children who witnessed something like this?

[06:10:11] NEW: That is so difficult and I would say at this stage, when it's so fresh and raw, they just need to have love, feel safe and secure, and be surrounded by that. And then as time goes on, then you just have to address it in a more global way.

BLACKWELL: You know, Rabbi, The New York Times is apologizing, maybe you've seen this, for this cartoon that was published in the international edition that depicts President Trump walking a dog with the face of Benjamin Netanyahu with the Star of David on his dog collar. Obviously, trafficking, again, anti-semitic tropes.

What happened yesterday was law enforcement, they believe one man who acted alone, something like that goes through several hands before it's published. They've apologized for it. Are people becoming desensitized to this type of anti-semitism? Are they feeling that they can explain things like this in a away? I mean to what do you attribute not just the major event that happened yesterday but the growth in other types of anti-semitism we're seeing?

NEW: Well, I think we underestimate the power of words. People say, "Ah, he just said it. He didn't really mean it." When God created the world, he created the world through the medium of speech. God said, "Let there be light." And this underscores the power of the spoken word. I think if people think back about what torments them or haunts them the most, it's what would somebody said to them that was derogatory or demeaning, than maybe even in something physical. So it's very important to remember the power of the spoken word. It can create and it can destroy.

PAUL: And when we look at what's happened in the last six months, when we start with what happened in Pittsburgh at the Tree of Life last year, then you have the New Zealand mosques, you have the Christchurch in New Zealand, the churches in Sri Lanka just last week, the churches that have been burned down in Louisiana. Why are houses of worship, not necessarily just one faith but houses of worship such a target right now? Do you have a sense of that?

NEW: Well, I think that historically religion has always been a target. It's prominent. It represents our value system and people who are fighting that and people who are angry, is just the easiest target, the most obvious one. PAUL: And do you feel that you have a handle on the security that you

need to add to your congregations?

NEW: We take our security seriously, but we will certainly assess it and --

PAUL: You're reassessing because of this.

NEW: Yes.

PAUL: Again, Rabbi, thank you so much for taking the time to come in and talk to us this morning.

NEW: My pleasure. God bless.

PAUL: You too.

BLACKWELL: Thank you.

PAUL: You too.

BLACKWELL: Now, on his way to a rally in Wisconsin last night, the President said this about the latest synagogue shooting.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hard to believe. Hard to believe with respect to the synagogue in California near San Diego and we're doing some very heavy research. We'll see what happens, what comes up. At this moment, it looks like a hate crime. But my deepest sympathies to all of those affected and we'll get to the bottom of it.

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BLACKWELL: With me now to discuss, Julian Zelizer, CNN Historian and Professor at Princeton University, comes from a family of rabbis. Julian, welcome back and I just keep thinking about this nine-year-old girl and her family who moved to Poway because in 2012 their house was painted with swastikas and they moved to this community because they thought it would be safer for them. These active anti semitism, violent acts are happening more often in more places. Why?

JULIAN ZELIZER, HISTORIAN & PROFESSOR, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: Well, we've seen a big uptick. There's a number of factors. Some of it stems from social media. Some of it stems from expansion of white nationalist activity and sometimes it has lone wolves. Sometimes it's more organized than that. And some of this is the legitimation of this kind of rhetoric in the public square and I think all three converge to create horrible moments like this.

BLACKWELL: President Trump was asked about the expansion of, as you call it, white nationalist activity after the shooting in Christchurch, that massacred at the two places of worship there. Listen to his response about that expansion.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you see today white nationalism as a rising threat around the world?

TRUMP: I don't really. I think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. But it's certainly a terrible thing, terrible thing.

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[06:15:01] BLACKWELL: And Julian, more than rhetorically that matters, the understanding of the threat matters on a legislative level as allotment and allocation of resources, how are we seeing that in this government?

ZELIZER: Well, it's been traced already that there's been a retrenchment of funding for programs to target white nationalist organizations here in the United States, reversing some of the progress that had been made since the late 1990s. So that has an immediate impact on going after the institutional resources of groups that promote hate and then as the Rabbi said, the rhetoric matters and a lot of the rhetoric has come from the very top of the political leadership, and that fuels a really toxic environment and so both of those really are unacceptable.

BLACKWELL: Soon after the shooting at the Pittsburgh mosque and I was there reporting from it, you wrote for the Atlantic magazine that the President needs to demilitarized his rhetoric. What do you mean by that?

ZELIZER: Well, the President uses very aggressive and toxic rhetoric on a number of issues ranging from the way he talks about people seeking to come into our borders, immigrants undocumented and documented. And also, he has a pretty long record now of trafficking an anti-semitic tropes as well.

And I don't know what his intentions are when he uses this kind of language, but he puts it out there and he taps into very long standing historical traditions of hatred that exists here in the United States, anti semitism, nativism, racism and others. And so that's why the President has to use his bully pulpit with a sense of great responsibility.

ZELIZER: Vice President Joe Biden when he got into the race, he started that video with the President's response to Charlottesville, guaranteeing that at least for his campaign the President's character and his rhetoric about situations like Charlottesville and what we saw yesterday will be at the center of the campaign. When people go to vote, are they thinking about the soul of the nation, the character of the President or gas in the car, food on the table, money in the bank and job opportunities?

ZELIZER: Well, I think you just laid out the big question of 2020, because the economy is doing extraordinarily well right now and that is President Trump's best asset going into election day. On the other hand, there is this sense that the fundamental values at the heart of this administration for many Americans are not what they want to see embodying the leadership of the country.

And so if this becomes a values debate, I think the President is very vulnerable and Charlottesville remains a symbolic moment for many in this country of where the President of the United States moved in the wrong direction because of his refusal to be strong in denouncing a neo-Nazi rally.

BLACKWELL: Julian Zelizer, always good to have you.

ZELIZER: Thank you.

PAUL: Well, people are holding vigils outside St. Anthony's Shrine in commemoration of Sri Lanka this morning. Christians are praying. They're lighting candles for the victims of this horrific Easter bombings last week. Remember, 253 people were killed and 500 more are still recovering. That is an image of what's happening there today.

BLACKWELL: President Trump speaking to a pretty raucous crowd in Wisconsin, laid out what could be the next phase of his immigration strategy.

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TRUMP: Last month alone, 100,000 illegal immigrants arrived at our borders. Now, we're sending many of them to sanctuary cities. Thank you very much.

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BLACKWELL: We'll tell you what immigration officials are saying about the President's message.

PAUL: And four people died after a crane collapsed in Seattle. It crushed cars in the street below. We'll show you more.

BLACKWELL: Also, April rarely looks like this.

PAUL: What?

BLACKWELL: But this is April in Minnesota. Several cities in the Midwest are experiencing record low temperatures and snow.

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[06:22:48] PAUL: Well, four people were killed when a crane fell from the roof of a building in Seattle. It fell on to vehicles that were in the street. Three others including a four-month-old were taken to the hospital. They were treated for non-life threatening injuries. But the Seattle mayor said it was a tragic day in Seattle. Washington's governor and Democratic presidential candidate Jay Inslee called it a, quote, terrible accident.

BLACKWELL: Well, President Trump says the U.S. is now sending undocumented migrants to sanctuary cities.

PAUL: He made the comments during a rally last night in Wisconsin. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: Now, we're sending many of them to sanctuary cities. Thank you very much. They're not too happy about it. I'm proud to tell you that was actually my sick idea ...

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PAUL: That's a line that has a lot of people going, "What?" What Boris Sanchez is at the White House right now. So the question this morning was the President revealing new White House policy or was he just was he just playing to the crowd there, Boris? Is there some consensus on that this morning?

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No. Good morning, Victor and Christi. It appears the President was just playing to the crowd according to what we've heard about the story. Remember that when this idea, reports about this idea first emerged, the White House dismissed it as something that had been previously discussed and then abandoned.

Abandoned in part because of what CNN heard from DHS officials who told us that they told the White House that this idea was likely illegal. It came up twice before and was abandoned. The White House told us it was an idea that they dismissed and then President Trump ultimately went back on all of that and said that he was considering it.

It does not appear at this point that the White House is actually carrying out this policy. We've yet to get official confirmation on that, but the President was in front of a supportive crowd and he felt the urge to tout one of his big issues which is immigration. And another confounding moment, the President also went after criticism unclear from who that he wants to be president for life. Listen to what he said.

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[06:24:58] TRUMP: Our love for America will always be stronger than a corrupt thirst for power. This - I don't - I'll tell you what, people said, "Oh, he wants to take over the country. He wants to extend." They don't believe I'm believing in six years. He wants to extend. He wants to have presidency for life. These are sick people. I promise at the end of six years, I'll be very happy but you're going to be left with the strongest country you've ever had. I promise you that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Again, we're still waiting to hear exactly who the President address that to, where that criticism is coming from. He's obviously very confident also about his 2020 prospects. The President spent some time yesterday using some of his favorite pet names to go after potential 2020 rivals.

He went after Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders as well. Pretty much what you would expect from President Trump going into 2020 at a rally in front of a very supportive and raucous crowd. Also, some counter programming from the White House Correspondents' Dinner which the President, again, skipped last night, Victor and Christi.

PAUL: Good point. Boris Sanchez, we appreciate it. Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Of course.

BLACKWELL: And in this conversation of rhetoric from the President, former Vice President Joe Biden says that 2020 will be a battle for the soul of America and he got a swift counterpunch from the President. Can the former vice president maintain his lead among Democrats? That's coming up on STATE OF THE UNION with Jake Tapper at 9:00 am Eastern right here on CNN.

PAUL: Well, straight ahead Israel is standing with the Jewish community in the U.S. after this deadly synagogue shooting. They say they will not be defeated by hatred. We have a live report for you from Jerusalem.

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[06:30:24] BLACKWELL: All right, just in that 19-year-old suspect in the synagogue shooting in Poway, California, we've learned that he has been booked into the San Diego Central Jail and charged with one count of first degree murder, three counts of first degree attempted murder. That's according to the San Diego sheriff's inmate website. He's scheduled to be arraigned on Wednesday.

PAUL: Yes. And this, of course, following that shooting in Poway, one person died, three others are wounded and recovering today, including a nine-year-old girl. The Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs says, "They're standings side by side with their brothers and sisters in the U.S." We actually called Jewish people are united people, a quote that will never be defeated by hatred. CNN Correspondent Oren Liebermann is in Jerusalem with more details.

Oren, thank you so much for being with us. What is the mood there?

OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Victor and Christi, this shooting happened just as the Sabbath, a day of rest here was coming to a close, a day that's supposed to be one of peace, tranquility and reflection. And it was as the Sabbath was going out here, as that weekly holiday was ending that news of the shooting came in and it was horrific news. It was also a very painful reminder of the news from six months ago, the Pittsburgh shooting that also happened just as Sabbath was ending here, so this a very stark reminder of what happened and then happened once again now in California.

A statement from Israel's President Reuven Rivlin condemn the shooting, of course, and said thoughts and prayers with the family of Lori Gilbert Kaye. The statement reads, "The Jewish people will never allow anti-Semitism and hatred to triumph. The murderous attack on the Jewish community during Pesach, our holiday of freedom, and just before Holocaust Memorial day, is yet another painful reminder that anti-Semitism and hatred of Jews is still with us everywhere. No country and no society are immune."

It's also worth pointing out that as the Israeli President says, this was happening at the conclusion of the holiday of Passover, a holiday where Jews celebrate their freedom, and it's right before what's known here as Memorial week, including Holocaust Memorial Day as well as memorial of soldiers day. So all of that leads into how impactful this shooting was on the Jewish community. Of course, not only in the U.S. and in California, but also in Israel.

A statement from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reads, "I condemn the criminal attack in the synagogue in California." It is a strike into the heart of the Jewish people. The international community should intensify the battle against anti-Semitism." Netanyahu also said he would convene a special discussion this week with those who work to fight anti-Semitism around the globe in the wake of this shooting. Certainly the Pittsburgh shooting also hanging on everyone's minds as well as they reflect and try to cope with what happened in California, Victor and Christi.

PAUL: Oren Liebermann, thank you so much. We really appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Let's go to Washington now where the White House Correspondents' Dinner took on a more subdued tone this year.

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RON CHERNOW, HISTORIAN & KEYNOTE SPEAKER: My main theme here tonight is that relations between presidents and the press are inevitably tough, almost always adversarial but they don't need to be steeped in venom.

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[06:38:08] PAUL: Well, there's a lot of history and little humor at the White House Correspondents' Dinner last night, because it was very different this year rather than a comedian they had historian Ron Chernow in a place of a featured speaker.

BLACKWELL: Yes, stark difference compared to years past. Chernow honor journalist and he set the tone for the evening with this.

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CHERNOW: We now have to fight hard for basic truths we once took for granted. When you chip away at the press, you chip away at our democracy.

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BLACKWELL: CNN Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter joins us now with more. Brian, according to you, how was Ron Chernow received?

BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: I think he was very well-received in the room, so to speak, and among members of the public that watched as well. This is a very serious time. Journalists in newsrooms across the country do feel they're under a certain amount of threat from the President's rhetoric and from others.

And so Ron Chernow brought a historical perspective to this. He pointed out that the relationship between the press and the president has always been adversarial, that's how it should be. But he said it should never be venomous. Here's another part of what he said last night.

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CHERNOW: Washington felt maligned and misunderstood by the press, but he never generalize that into a vendetta against the institution.

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STELTER: Never against the institution. Of course, the insinuation very clear there that past presidents did not call the entire media the enemy of the people as we now see these days. He also wrapped up by quoting Mark Twain, a lot of people got a laugh out of this. Here it is.

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CHERNOW: Politicians in diapers must be changed often and for the same reason. Good night and God bless America.

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[06:39:51] STELTER: According to Mark Twain it never fails and Chernow did a lot of that, recalling history, bringing the past into the present day and into the future. So he was well-received and I think more broadly this correspondents' dinner which used to be derated as a nerd prom where a bunch of third rate celebrities would show up. It has turned into a more serious event about the First Amendment and that is entirely worthwhile at a time when basic values are being debated, being argued about when there is this campaign against the media from some politicians.

By the way that's something that's going to continue past President Trump. I think we will see other politicians in the future engage in this same kind of rhetoric and so it's important to get back to the basics at an event like this.

PAUL: So, Brian, here's the thing I mean the President has boycotted it has his administration, essentially this year. But do you get the sense he might not be there, but they're paying attention.

STELTER: Yes, I think that's true in both directions. The President pays very close attention and his absence was felt as well. In fact, I had some journalists in the room say it felt less tense this year because there weren't White House aides, press officials present. You think about what is likely his press officials like Sarah Sanders and her aides, they are caught between having to do their jobs and talk with us and try to answer our questions, hopefully, accurately versus working for a boss who derives the institution.

There's an ongoing tension there. It's gotten worse lately in the wake of the Mueller report where Sarah Sanders has been proven to be misleading the press on multiple occasions. That tension continues to get worse and worse. And yet if you look at polls, most Americans see through the media attacks the anti media venom and I think that's a good thing.

And by the way, look, there were still a few stars there, the red carpet still having some people there but it was more of a Washington event celebrating journalists and what journalists do. That's the most important thing about this. It's about what journalists do every day trying to get to the truth, not always succeeding but trying every day.

BLACKWELL: Well, Brian, let me ask you how hot were these after parties because you are wearing a tuxedo at 20 minutes to seven?

PAUL: He is.

STELTER: I'm going to sleep on the way home, Victor.

PAUL: I didn't even noticed that.

STELTER: I'm going to sleep on the way home.

BLACKWELL: OK. I guess that's my answer.

PAUL: You know what, Brian, we want to hear the rest of it later.

STELTER: RELIABLE RESOURCES.

PAUL: You can just talk to us off camera of that.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

STELTER: 11:00 am.

BLACKWELL: We will do that.

PAUL: Yes, that's right, 11:00 am he's going to really --

BLACKWELL: Yes.

PAUL: That is a good tease right there. Brian Stelter, you're a smart man.

BLACKWELL: All right.

STELTER: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Thanks, Brian. All right, President Obama seemed to take a few swipes at his successor last night during the commemoration of Nelson Mandela's birthday. We'll let you read between the lines yourself here, watch.

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BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you don't know what you stand for and what your values are and what you believe, then you also don't know what can be compromised and what can't be compromised. What's of lasting value and what is situational and temporary. And I changed my mind all of the time based on facts and evidence.

The challenge we have in our politics in every country is when people start conforming facts to their opinions and biases, as opposed to trying to shape their opinions and biases based on the facts. Because if you're starting off based on facts then we can have a discussion, we can have an argument.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PAUL: President Obama getting deep there.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

PAUL: All right, it's snowing in April in the Midwest.

BLACKWELL: No.

PAUL: Thank you so much. I needed all of that little - from Victor, keeping me going --

BLACKWELL: You need some punctuation?

PAUL: Yes.

BLACKWELL: I got you. I got you.

PAUL: Yes, sir. And listen, this is so potent. It is still moving northeast. You are not off the hook if you're in that area. A live weather report from CNN Allison Chinchar next.

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[06:47:26] BLACKWELL: It's spring, so they say.

PAUL: Is it?

BLACKWELL: Winter is not ready to say goodbye yet, because the snow is still out there for some folks.

PAUL: Particularly in the Midwest, late season and we mean late season snowstorm. It's not usual to have snow in April, but the amount that it's getting. Half a dozen of cities are expected to get record low temperatures as well. CNN's Allison Chinchar live at the weather center. So what kind of temperatures are we talking about today, Allison?

Allison Chinchar: Below freezing and even in the 20s. The odd thing is I walked into the studio this morning and I said, "Oh, my gosh, it's freezing in here." My producer, Haley, actually said, "Well, it could be worse, you could be in Chicago." Because yes, again, it's 31 degrees right now in Chicago, the record 28, so they are going to be awfully close to tying if not even breaking a record low this morning. Places like Madison, Wisconsin and Dubuque, Iowa have already broken the record and we still got a couple of more hours of cold temperatures left to go.

Because of this, these are all of the areas where you have freeze mornings. Here's why this is important this time of year. No, it may not be below zero or anything crazy like that but you have a lot of stuff that's already started to bloom. You have plants and flowers that have already started to come out now becomes the question of whether or not they stay that way. This is a picture from Chicago of snow on some of those said flowers, because yes they were one of the locations that picked up a decent amount of snow yesterday.

Here's a video, you can see Wrigley Field in the distance right there. Look at the snow just coming down yesterday at times. It was coming down in blankets, visibility was reduced. You had numerous delays across the airports in Chicago and here's why.

Now, Stockton, Illinois was actually the official marker that got the most, six inches there. Oakley, Wisconsin also picking up six inches of snow yesterday. Chicago at the O'Hare Airport picked up about two and a half inches. That is enough to break the daily record there. Rochester, Minnesota airport also breaking a record snowfall amount.

Now, that system that was in the Midwest yesterday is now pushing into areas of the Northeast. So places like Erie, Pennsylvania, Buffalo, you're going to get some of that snow as well. The good news is, however, for the coastal big cities, we're talking New York, Boston, places like that, you're just going to get rain. It's just and warm enough, if you will, along the coastal regions to only have it be rain.

In here you can see is that system pushes through or mostly affects cities like Philadelphia, New York and Boston later this afternoon and into the evening. But here's the thing, you had snow in Midwest, how would you like some more snow? The next system is on its way in a few days and it's going to bring even more snow to the Midwest, not to Chicago per se, but you also are going to see portions of snow.

Take a look at this in the UP of Michigan, Northern Wisconsin, Northern Minnesota and this is Sunday later on tonight and into the day Monday. So there's really not even much of a break from that first system guys into the next system. The one thing I will point out, warmth is on the way. Take a look at Chicago, for example. Yes, the next three days are going to be well below average, but Victor and Christi, finally those temperatures, the sunshine all of the things you actually picture for spring will be here by the end of the week.

[06:50:28] BLACKWELL: Well, at least there's some good news on the horizon.

PAUL: Yes.

CHINCHAR: Yes. Thank you for finding it. BLACKWELL: It's after another snow coming, but there is good news

coming. Allison Chinchar, thank you so much.

CHINCHAR: Thanks.

PAUL: So Marvel Avengers: Endgame breaking box office on opening day. Movie chains running around the clock adding show time to meet the demand from all of the fans. We'll tell you what we're learning this morning.

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[06:54:57] PAUL: Our 2014 CNN Hero Dr. Wendy Ross has spent years working to make the daily experiences of people with autism more inclusive. Well, she is expanding her mission now, training fellow physicians and staff at Jefferson Health in Philadelphia and she's finding ways to ensure all patients receive the medical care that they need and that they deserve.

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WENDY ROSS, 2014 CNN HERO OF THE YEAR: Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, good to see you, Dr. Ross.

ROSS: Hey, how are you? Hi, Alex.

Patients coming in on spectrum may have a more difficult time communicating and without doctors that can understand how to interact with them, they're not going to get appropriate health care.

Some of the accommodations that our program provides are noise cancelling headphones, things like fidgets to help reduce their anxiety. We are really providing autism-friendly health care.

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PAUL: To learn more about Wendy's groundbreaking new program or if you'd like to nominate a CNN Hero, we'd love to meet them. Go to cnnheroes.com.

BLACKWELL: Marvel's Avengers: Endgame had the biggest opening day ever and the weekend clearly isn't over yet. The film made an estimated $644 million at the worldwide box office one day. Avengers: Infinity War held the previous record for its opening around the world last April, but Endgame is the conclusion to Marvel Studios decade of series of blockbuster films, 644 one day.

PAUL: Now, I will tell you one kid at our school gave it away because he saw it, one kids started crying because they had not seen it yet. This is a big deal people in case you're wondering.

BLACKWELL: I'll watching in the headrest of --

PAUL: Of a flight? Yes, I know.

BLACKWELL: I'll get to it.

PAUL: We'll be right back.

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