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Horse Owner Plans to Sue over Disqualification; Rain and Storms Threaten U.S.; Harry and Meghan Welcome Baby Boy; Democrats and the Non-College-Educated Vote. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired May 07, 2019 - 06:30 ET
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[06:33:21] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: This morning, racing officials in Kentucky are denying an appeal from the owners of Maximum Security, the horse that was disqualified for interference after crossing the line first at the Kentucky Derby. But the owner, not giving up the fight.
Our Martin Savidge is live in Louisville with the very latest here.
So where does he go now, Martin?
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It looks like we're headed to a court of law. In fact, I would say we're racing in that direction.
Gary West is the owner of Maximum Security. And even though his appeal was rejected about the very second it landed on the desk of the Kentucky Racing -- or Horse Racing Commission, he is undaunted. He says that he is going to push on forward.
By the way, in that appeal, here's just some of the things he listed here. He said that the ruling by the stewards on Saturday to disqualify his horse from the Kentucky Derby were arbitrary and capricious and not supported by substantial evidence.
Well, actually, the referees on that race would say there was a lot of evidence, visual evidence video, as well as the testimony from other jockeys in the race.
Meanwhile, Gary West was on Fox TV last night, and he was basically blaming another horse in the race for all the problems.
Take a listen.
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GARY WEST, MAXIMUM SECURITY OWNER: The one horse actually caused the infraction, not our horse. I believe it will eventually show that if the one horse would have finished ahead of our horse, we would have had every right in the world to claim an objection against the one horse.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SAVIDGE: Now, if you're wondering, who is the number one horse, that is War of Will.
But, again, the referees in the race said, no, it was Maximum Security that actually interfered with War of Will. It was not the other way around.
[06:35:05] So it looks like this is definitely going to be going to a court of law.
As for the Preakness, Gary West has ruled out that his horse is not going to be running. That's the second leg of the Triple Crown. Many are saying you should. What's better than a classic rematch between Country House and Maximum Security? We'll have to see how this all plays out.
John.
BERMAN: Martin Savidge for us in a beautiful Louisville. Looks like a fake set behind you right there. The track is just gorgeous behind you this morning.
SAVIDGE: It does look good.
BERMAN: Next hour we're going to speak with the trainer of the horse that won the Kentucky Derby, Country House. That trainer will join us and tell us about this very difficult few days.
Alisyn.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, there are severe storms, including the possibility of tornadoes that are threatening parts of the plains, the Midwest, and the south, all in the coming days. Heavy rain is also expected to make already bad flooding worse in some spots.
So CNN meteorologist Chad Myers has the forecast.
How does it look, Chad?
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Alisyn, already, 36 river gauges out of the major flood category right now and much more rain to come. And also, of course, the severe weather, as well.
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So, here we are. The next five days, six inches of rainfall in places that are already flooding. That is just going to make everything worse. And, also, here in this orange and yellow zone, the potential for tornadoes today.
Now, yesterday, there were only a couple. But today there could be ten or more. One of those spring type days. And even for tomorrow, work our way into 6:00 tonight, here's where the severe weather will be the panhandle of Texas, Oklahoma, into Kansas. By tomorrow morning, the radar is still going. By the time we wake up and show you this tomorrow, this is what the radar will look like, right through Dallas, Texas, into Oklahoma City and into Tulsa.
The storm does finally move off to the east and the Midwest dries out, but there will be more flooding. We had pictures yesterday from Davenport. That water has to run downhill. And downhill is down the Mississippi. So all of those towns down the Mississippi will see some more flooding as the week goes on and even the month goes on, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: All right, keep everyone posted, please, for those dangerous conditions.
MYERS: We will.
CAMEROTA: Thank you very much, Chad.
So, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle bucking tradition when it comes to their new baby. How they are making their own rules, next.
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[06:41:43] CAMEROTA: It's a boy for the duke and duchess of Sussex. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle welcomed their first child and seventh in line to the British throne yesterday. They are expected to introduce him to the world tomorrow.
For the significance, let's bring in Max Foster, CNN royal correspondent, and Victoria Arbiter, royal expert and CNN royal commentator.
Great to have both of you for this exciting occasion.
We were just saying, Vickie, that you and I were there almost a year ago for their wedding. They've had a busy year.
VICTORIA ARBITER, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: They've had a very busy -- yes, I think we're about two weeks shy of their first wedding anniversary. So not a bad way to ring in that first year.
CAMEROTA: So are you surprised by the new rules that they seem to be setting in terms of they've not announced a name, there have been no baby photos, we don't even know where the baby was born?
ARBITER: Well, actually, when it comes to names, some royals, I think it was the queen, waited as long as three weeks to announce Prince Charles' name. So the name is nothing new. And I think for a couple of reasons.
First of all, they need to live with this name for a couple of days because once you've announced a royal baby's name, there's no reining it back in. so something perhaps the entire pregnancy they thought one name and suddenly they looked at him and said, well, no, that doesn't work.
But also I think out of respect to the queen, they're going to want to run things by her. No doubt the queen will pop down to visit Harry and Meghan either today or first thing tomorrow. So I'm not surprised on the name.
Pictures, of course, you've been used to having simply because we've seen the royals leaving the hospital. Since 1970, the duchess of Kent was the first to do a photo upon leaving the hospital. So I think everyone's highly anticipating pictures tomorrow.
CAMEROTA: So, Max, tell us the candidacy significance of this baby in Britain. I mean the fact that it is a baby of mixed race, the fact that, you know, Meghan Markle is American, and just what it means in terms of the mood of the country right now?
MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: I think what Meghan has managed to do is engage a whole new audience with the British royal family because, you know, the queen is a master of this. None of us have anything, pretty much, in common with her, but she managed to connect with the public in a quite extraordinary way. It's very important for the monarchy to be supported by the public and parliament, otherwise they no longer exist.
What Meghan does is allow people to relate to the British monarchy. So she's good news for the British royal family. The -- we're hearing there from Victoria about the name possibly coming soon. We'll see them tomorrow.
Also, we're going to be discussing titles, as well, because currently this young boy won't be a prince. But, actually, when Charles becomes king, it will be a prince. That's the way the system works. So we're expecting to hear from the queen that perhaps she'll decree that this young boy will be a prince, in the same way she's treated the younger Cambridge children.
CAMEROTA: In terms of the name, Max was just reporting that once that they -- that the betting public, at least, are -- think that they're considering are Arthur, Alexander. He mentioned Spencer. Spencer would be an interesting choice, of course, because of Harry's mom. I mean that one just seems to kind of hold some poignance.
ARBITER: I think Spencer is definitely the sentimental favorite. It's unusual to use surnames as a first names in the U.K. And as Max was saying, we don't know about titles yet. If this baby doesn't have a title, the last name will be Mountbatten-Windsor. So they're going to be trying to find a name that works with quite a long surname as well.
But I think in terms of names, we're going to see a name that is very strong, that's who this couple are, but something that works on both sides of the pond. Harry has been very keen that no matter what they've done during Meghan's tenure within the royal family, he wants to honor her American heritage, as well. So Alexander we talked about a lot yesterday. That works, why? Well, Alexander is the masculine form of Alexandria, which is the queen's middle name. That's the royals taken care of. But Alexander Hamilton was one of the U.S.'s founding fathers. He was a well-respected man in his day. So I think we're looking at a name that's going to work for both of these -- both of these parents moving forward. [06:45:30] CAMEROTA: So, Max, in terms of when we get our eyes on the
newest royal, are they going to put a picture out on Instagram, are they going to walk out? I mean what's the plan for when we can see the baby?
FOSTER: Well, they've told us that they are going to have this opportunity, this photo call tomorrow. It will be very controlled. Very much like the one that we saw yesterday. So there will be a TV camera, there will be an agency reporter and there will be a stills photographer, and they will capture the family within the castle walls behind me. So that's going to be a big moment.
Alisyn, I'm expecting those pictures to come in, possibly live during our show tomorrow. So that's a big moment for John to look forward to in particular, I think. But that's going to be a big moment.
And then they'll sort of disappear, I think, because they keep emphasizing this privacy point. They want to be able to celebrate privately. They haven't even confirmed to us where they've had the baby, where the duchess had the baby, despite these media reports that she was whisked away to London -- a London hospital overnight.
CAMEROTA: John Berman is giddy with excitement, I can tell you, Max. He is very excited that this could all happen on our watch.
So, Victoria Arbiter, Max Foster, thank you both very much. We will look forward to that tomorrow, right, John?
BERMAN: I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, honestly. And I will say, there is an irony that we're going from the royal segment to a U.S. elections segment, democracy.
CAMEROTA: Yes, I know.
BERMAN: Need to cover a little bit of democracy here.
CAMEROTA: You seem to be a fan of democracy. I get it.
BERMAN: So they could be part of the secret sauce to a Democratic electoral victory. What is the key swing voting bloc this year? And who's leading with them? Prince Harry Enten joins us next.
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[06:50:48] BERMAN: So it could be one of the key voting blocs in the Democratic presidential primary, and there is one candidate doing particularly well with them. Which bloc? What candidate?
We're now joined by prince Harry, the duke of polls, for "The Forecast."
HARRY ENTEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICS WRITER AND ANALYST: I salute. I do not wear a crown. I salute both of you.
CAMEROTA: OK.
BERMAN: Excellent.
So what have you got here? We're talking about non-college whites, correct?
ENTEN: That is exactly what we're talking about.
So let's take a look right here.
And what essentially is, if we look at how similar these two sort of coalitions have been, Biden doing well among older voters. Same as Clinton. Ideologically, they both do better with more moderate conservative Democrats. Race, they're both doing better with non- whites than white Democrats.
But here, this is the key, the dissimilarity, as you were hinting at, is on education. And take a look at what happened back in 2016. And what we see is that Bernie Sanders actually won those whites without a college degree by about 7 points in the median state with an entrance or exit poll. But Hillary Clinton actually did better with whites without a college degree. She won those by 7 percentage points.
Now, take a look at what's going on this year. This is from our latest CNN poll. Other polling looks sort of similar and we'll get to that in a second. Whites without a college degree, Joe Biden with 36 percent. Whites with a college degree, only 21 percent. So he's doing 15 points better with whites without a college degree than he is with whites with a college degree. That is a total reversal of what we saw last time around with Hillary Clinton, who was doing better with this bloc than this bloc.
CAMEROTA: That's interest. And do we know how President Trump is doing with whites without a college degree?
ENTEN: I mean this is -- and we'll get to this in a second, this is Donald Trump's bread and butter. This is his group. And he -- and we saw a lot of whites with a college degree leaving the Democratic Party. Joe Biden, I think we have here, that working class Joe, middle class Joe. This polling represents this fairly well.
BERMAN: This is very interesting to me in the Democratic primary politics because this shows that Joe Biden's cutting into the Bernie Sanders coalition.
ENTEN: That's --
BERMAN: He crosses a line there between Hillary and Bernie from 2016.
ENTEN: Right. That's exactly right. And what we've seen so far in the polling, right, is Joe Biden has gained over the last week and a half since he's entered the race. Bernie Sanders has fallen. Part of that is name recognition and Joe Biden being the news, but also part of that is the fact that Joe Biden's actually eating into Bernie Sanders' coalition. So, yes, there are some dissimilarities, but there's a real similarity here with Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders tending to do better with whites without a college degree. And we see this fairly well in the latest Iowa poll from Monmouth University. What we saw there was Joe Biden again, Iowa, we don't have a breakdown of whites with a college degree versus whites without one, but Iowa Democrats are almost universally white.
Among those without a college degree, Joe Biden at 34 percent, with a college degree, Joe Biden at 20 percent. And you see here, Bernie Sanders doing slightly better without -- among those Iowa Democrats without a college degree than those with a college degree. Of course, that's very different from what -- than what we see down here with Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren and also a big difference between Warren and Sanders, where Warren does better with those with a college degree than those without. But, again, here, this is the key number, look at that, right there, those without a college degree, Joe Biden doing significantly better than those with a college degree.
CAMEROTA: But it's interesting to see Kamala Harris doing as well as Bernie Sanders with college degree educated.
ENTEN: Yes. I think this is exactly -- I think this is exactly right. Kamala Harris, right now, she's going to expand her coalition. She's going to have to do better among those without a college degree. And she's not doing that. That might also be part of the reason why she's struggling with African-American voters is because they overwhelmingly tend to not have a college degree.
Just -- just on this point, think this is sort of key. In a Democratic primary, these two groups are interchangeable. They both make up about 30 percent of the vote versus non-whites who make up about 40 percent of the vote. But in a general election, if you're looking for someone who might be able to come to that Trump coalition, whites without a college degree make up a significantly larger chunk of the electorate than whites with a college degree.
CAMEROTA: How do you feel about the royal baby, just out of curiosity.
ENTEN: You know what, I like the royal baby. I'm a big fan.
CAMEROTA: He's speaking baby talk to the royal baby.
ENTEN: I'm a big fan. Look at this. Prince Harry, if you look at the net popularity ratings, Prince Harry, Meghan, duchess of Sussex, both very popular among U.K.-ers, versus the politicians. We don't really like our politicians here. In the U.K., they don't like their politicians either. Net negative favorability ratings, but Prince Harry and Meghan, very well liked.
BERMAN: I just will note one irony here, no one voted for Prince Harry. There are no elections for the royal family. So the fact that you have public opinion polls --
[06:55:02] CAMEROTA: He's really a stickler about the voting thing in Britain.
ENTEN: You know what, they didn't vote for him, but they love him.
BERMAN: There you go.
CAMEROTA: There you go. Fair enough.
BERMAN: Harry, thank you.
CAMEROTA: Thank you, Harry.
ENTEN: Thank you.
CAMEROTA: All right, his horse won the Kentucky Derby under a cloud of controversy. The trainer of Country House joins us live with the derby drama.
BERMAN: But first a look at the CNN special "Champions for Change." This time, anchors and correspondents will introduce you to people who have left a lasting impression on us.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Some people --
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Some stories --
ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: Are so powerful --
ALISON CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: They leave their mark.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Nobody has ever affected me the way your son did.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Their work creates real impact.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: On their communities --
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN ANCHOR: On their country --
POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: On us all.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Meet the change makers we have never forgotten.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What a difference seven years makes.
GUPTA: This is the place where you jumped.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. This is the place where I lived.
COOPER: Wow.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is Bill from CNN.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is my first time, today.
BILL WEIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: These are the champions for change.
BURNETT: It is amazing.
GUPTA: I just get to tell your story.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Champions for Change," a week-long CNN special event, all next week.
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