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School Shooting Near Columbine Is America's 35th Since Fall; Parents Describe Moment Heard Son Was Killed In School Shooting; Iran Retreats From Nuke Deal, Threatens Uranium Enrichment & Trump To Roll Out New Sanctions; Baby Sussex Has A Name: Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor; House Judiciary Committee Deliberates Barr Contempt As Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Mueller Report. Aired 2:30-3p ET

Aired May 8, 2019 - 14:30   ET


[14:30:00] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Those voices and those images are from Highlands Ranch, Colorado, where -- where authorities are investigating a school shooting. One student was killed, eight others were injured. It happened at the STEM School, Highlands Ranch. It is a public charter school. It is in a suburb. It is seven miles from Columbine High School.


TONY SPURLOCK, SHERIFF, DOUGLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: We have an adult male that we sent out information on yesterday in custody at the Douglas County jail. We originally thought that we had a juvenile male in custody, but through our interviews yesterday, late afternoon, determined that we have a juvenile female that is in custody right now who is the other suspect.

All of the victims that were shot have been released except for three, three children that are still in intensive care and at area hospitals.


BALDWIN: We also now know the name of the student killed just days before his high school graduation. Kendrick Castillo was 18 years of age.

And CNN's Scott McLean just spoke with his parents, where they described the indescribable, the moment they found out Kendrick didn't make it.


JOHN CASTILLO, FATHER OF KENDRICK CASTILLO: Told me she got a text that he might have been at Littleton Adventist so we had a police officer take us over there into the E.R. And they told us he wasn't there and then that is when they broke the news to us in a small room that was adjacent to the nurse's station that, after we identified him, that he had passed and was still at the school, at the scene.

And that's when we found out. But I knew when he wasn't answering. You expect your kid to pick up the phone and tell you, you know, leave me alone. I was guilty and trying to call him and saying maybe this is the wrong thing. Maybe I'm putting his life in jeopardy to have the phone ring and so I was texting and I tried to FaceTime him and I had nothing. My anxiety and my lump in my chest was growing. I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe this was happening to my son.


BALDWIN: Other students, who were in the classroom say, as soon as they saw a gun, Kendrick lunged toward the suspect saving the lives of his teacher and so many other classmates.


CASTILLO: One of the kids told me that, like a flash, he jumped up. She said, "You know, he's a hero. He saved me. He jumped up and he ran. He couldn't even see how fast he was running. Out of the door and after this person." To attack them.



CASTILLO: No. Not at all. Because we raised him that way. We raised him to be good. And I kind of -- until you're a parent and you have something like this happen you struggle with that. Because of what he did, others are alive.

And I thank god for that. But I love him. And he's a hero. He always will be. But there's another part of you that wishes he would have just turned and ran, retreated, hid. Did something to put himself out of harm's way if that was possible.

But we know Kendrick. Maria will tell you, it is no surprise that if danger was facing him, he would approach it and take it on if it was something like that. And, I don't know. I like the world to know that this wasn't your average kid and his people -- people don't believe that -- Google him or research him and find out things about him. But you'll know that he was extraordinary.


BALDWIN: Again, what happened in Colorado marks the 35th school shooting in this country in this school year alone.

[14:34:05] Next hour, I'll talk to the father of a sixth grader -- sixth grade -- who survived it.


BALDWIN: A dramatic move today by Iran amid rising tensions with the U.S. Iran's President Rouhani announced his nation is partially withdrawing from the landmark Iran nuclear deal, saying Iran will no longer limit the amount of enriched uranium it keeps, but Rouhani did not renounce the entire nuclear deal as President Trump did a year ago.

Iran's move drawing a harsh warning from the head of U.S. Central Command moments ago.


GEN. KENNETH MCKENZIE, COMMANDER, U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND: This recent force movement should demonstrate three points for our friends and potential adversaries alike. First, this sends a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on U.S. interests will be met with unrelenting force. General Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has pledged never to send our sons and daughter into a fair fight. And if a fight is to be had, we'll be fully prepared to respond and defend our interests and it won't be a fair fight.


BALDWIN: CNN Global Affairs Analyst, Jason Rezaian, is a "Washington Post" opinion writer and he's the author of a book "Prisoner: My 544 Days in an Iranian Prison."

Jason, welcome back.

So this news that Iran will keep its excess enriched uranium and heavy water and not sell it to other countries, as it agreed, to limit the stockpile. Tell our audience why that is significant.

[14:40:19] JASON REZAIAN, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: It is significant for a couple of reasons. But first and foremost, they had to do something in response to the international community not coming to their aid on sanctions relief as had been promised under the nuclear deal. So when the Trump administration pulled out a year ago and began to ramp up the economic sanctions over the past couple of months and made more noise about this maximum pressure campaign, for their domestic audience, they had to do something.

The reality is they weren't in a position to ship that excess fuel and heavy water out of the country any way because of those economic sanctions. But I think that the purpose that this serves right now is just an increased ratcheting up of the tension and rhetoric between Tehran and Washington at a time where it is incredibly volatile and unnecessary.

BALDWIN: Well, here is how -- speaking of Washington, this is how Tim Kaine has responded. He's, quote, "Deeply worried that Trump administration is leading us toward an unnecessary war with Iran." Adding that, "Trump's White House has taken a series of actions to increase tensions, including misrepresenting the regular deployment of the 'USS Abraham Lincoln' as a warning to Iran."

Where do you fall? Do you feel like his concerns are valid? How worried should he be?

REZAIAN: Senator Kaine is knowledgeable on foreign issues and has been for a long time and I share his concerns. I think what we're seeing in front of us is a situation being manufactured, frankly, unnecessarily. Iran isn't doing that much different than it has over the previous decades in recent years. (CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: Why would it be manufactured, to your point?

REZAIAN: Well, we hear about the maximum pressure campaign. We're told, on the one hand, that this administration doesn't want a war in Iran or a regime change. I think there are factions within the administrations that want both. And the effects of the sanctions are obviously being felt within Iran and they see an opportunity to destabilize the government even further.

BALDWIN: What about the European leaders, who have all signed on to this deal? They are in this precarious decision. Do they side with the U.S. and Trump and walk away from the deal or do they side with Iran to preserve it?

REZAIAN: I don't think they'll walk away with the deal entirely. And that is precisely why Iran has given up their optional requirements under this deal. The things that President Rouhani has said that the Iranian regime will no longer do were optional measures, good-faith measures, but the essence of the deal is still being lived up to by the Iranian side, the European side and the Russians and the Chinese.

And I think the Iranians will continue to do that. But this is the move to put the pressure on the Russians and the Europeans and Chinese to help with the economic situation internally.

BALDWIN: Jason Rezaian, good to see you. Thank you very much.

REZAIAN: Great to be here.

BALDWIN: In other news, a big day for the new royal baby as he sleeps peacefully through his world debut. Have you seen this photo? And when it comes to the little guy's name, we'll talk once again about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, and how they are bucking tradition.


[14:48:06] BALDWIN: Cute royal baby animation. The anticipation is over. Baby Sussex has made his royal debut and he has a name. And here he is. His name, Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, the queen's eighth great-grandchild.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, posed for the long-awaited family photos inside of Windsor Castle. The couple also shared photos on Instagram, telling the world they are delighted to share their first public moment as a family. They also shared photos of Prince Archie meeting his grandparents and talked about the joys of being new parents.


MEGHAN MARKLE, DUCHESS OF SUSSEX: It's magic. It is pretty amazing and I'm -- I have two best guys in the world so I'm really happy.

He has the sweetest temperament. He's really calm and -- PRINCE HARRY: Except when he --


MARKLE: Yes. And he's just been a dream. So it has been a special couple of days.

PRINCE HARRY: Yes, it is great. Parenting is amazing. It's been two and a half days, three days?


PRINCE HARRY: But we're just so thrilled to have our own little bundle of joy. We'll be able to spend precious times with him as he starts to grow up.

He's already got a little bit of facial hair as well.




BALDWIN: Max Foster is there. He's our CNN royal correspondent outside, of Windsor Castle. And Victoria Arbiter is our royal expert and CNN royal commentator and she's there in New York.

So, OK, we have a baby and we have a name, Max -- Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. Tell me everything you know about the name.

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Archie is just a name they like. And Harrison means son of Harry. So it is simple and very little analysis to give it.

But what is interesting is that they haven't gone back into the royal history books to pluck out names, which is what they normally do. So I think they're saying we're trying at least to be a relatively normal family. And I think it makes them quite relatable.

[14:50:09] Archie is a popular name right now for children in the U.K. So they're reflecting that. And in a makes them relevant. I think it is interesting.

Also, Brooke, titles. So he does have a right to use the title of Earl of Dumbarton, for example. And the queen could have made him a prince technically, as well, but they've chosen not to have any title at all for their son, which is quite an interesting indicator.

BALDWIN: So to that point, Victoria, if he doesn't have the title, he's still technically a prince, right?

VICTORIA ARBITER, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: Well, when Charles becomes king -- this dates back, Brooke, to 1917 when George V didn't anticipate there being four generations of royals alive at the same time. So at the moment, this baby is not eligible for a princely status.

But when Charles does become king, he does become eligible. But by that time, many years from now -- the queen is still fighting and fit and robust and strong -- it may be decided by Harry and Meghan they don't want the princely status. Prince Charles may issue new letters patent further reducing the number of people that have an HRH status.

So all of that has to be decided. But I think for right now, this proves that Harry and Meghan are keen for their child to have as private a life as possible and it is easier to have a private life without the burden of an HRH title.

BALDWIN: And I know naming your child, it is a very personal thing. But, Max, they're not just anyone. And is there a formal protocol? Would they have had to clear it with the queen or not at all?

FOSTER: No. So there are formal protocols and laws on how things should work for the top six, if I could call them that, in the royal family, the top six in the line of succession. So that ends with Harry. For example, he had to get permission from the queen to marry Meghan. But anyone below that. So this baby, little Archie, he doesn't have to do anything specific.

And I think -- Victoria was talking about privacy, it very important to Harry. There's a very clear line. And an example of that is that it is pretty clear that Meghan was rushed up to London to have her baby. The palace just won't confirm or deny that. That's a signal from Harry saying there are certain things we don't have to share, and even under lots of pressure, we're not going to share it.

I think by saying that child isn't going to have a title, it doesn't have a former royal role. And therefore, he has a bigger right to privacy than we do as a duke and duchess with senior royal roles.

BALDWIN: And how do you think the queen feels about that?

FOSTER: I think the queen will let him do whatever he likes because this baby has very little chance of ever becoming king himself.


FOSTER: Also, the reality is lessons were learned back in Diana's day. Too many sort of restrictions placed on Diana. She was told to do -- told to do things that she didn't want to do. For example, there are all sorts of rules she had to adhere to. They learned a lesson from that. So what they tried to do, particularly with Meghan and Harry, is give them lots of freedom to do things in their own way so they don't have the same problems again, as it were.

BALDWIN: OK. Max Foster, Victoria Arbiter, thank you so much. Baby Archie. Thank you.

[14:53:29] Back here at home, any moment, the House Judiciary Committee is set to vote on holding Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt of Congress. And President Trump's response? To assert executive privilege over the entire Mueller report. We'll see where this goes, live.


BALDWIN: We continue on. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thank you for being here.

Let's get to live pictures here. House Judiciary Committee meeting right now up on Capitol Hill. Any moment now, members will be holding a vote as to whether they choose to hold Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt for refusing to turn over the unredacted portions of the Mueller report. And that is just one of the epic political maneuvers underway in this fight to get the report's full details. And keeping in mind, it is 20 days since the redacted version went public.

The other maneuver meant to keep redacted portions confidential came this morning from the White House. The president invoked executive privilege over the entire Mueller report and its underlying evidence.

So we start this hour with CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent, Manu Raju, on Capitol Hill.

Just, first of all, we're waiting for the committee to vote. Tell me more about when that will happen and what happens once they make a decision?

[15:00:06] MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we do expect a vote this afternoon. It has been taking some time because the voting process is sort of a freewheeling process.