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President Trump Meets Vladimir Putin in Japan; Countries Tries to Salvage Iran Nuclear Deal; Senator Kamala Harris the Star of the Night; Father and Daughter Laid to Rest with Their Shattered Dreams; World Leaders Gather In Osaka, Japan; U.S. President Trump Meets With Russia's President Vladimir Putin; At Least One Officer Killed In Tunis Suicide Attacks; Democrats Clash In Raucous Second Debate; India's Water Crisis; Clash Of The Titans Friday; Award-Winning Executive Moving On; FIFA Women's World Cup. Aired 3-4a ET
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GEORGE HOWELL, CNN ANCHOR: One on one in Osaka. The U.S. and Russian president to meet at the G20 summit and Donald Trump makes an offhand comment about Russian election meddling.
NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: A feisty debate. The second group of 10 Democratic candidates clashed in Miami, but some of the most powerful moments did not come from front runner Joe Biden.
HOWELL: Plus, later, the countries that signed the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement minus the United States, they meet to find a way to save that deal.
ALLEN: These stories are all ahead this hour, three a.m. Eastern in Atlanta, Georgia. Welcome to our viewers around the world. I'm Natalie Allen.
HOWELL: And I'm George Howell from CNN headquarters. CNN Newsroom starts right now.
We start in Osaka, Japan, for the G20 summit leaders of the 19 most powerful economies in the world and the European Union were altogether right now and for talks. These leaders posed for family photo of sorts. You see it here, but most of the high-level talks of diplomatic deal goes on behind closed doors and private meetings between these leaders.
ALLEN: U.S. President Trump sat down with the Russian President Vladimir Putin a little bit while ago. That meeting of course, highly anticipated against the backdrop of the Mueller report and the Russian interference in the U.S. elections.
As a matter of fact, in this photo op you see President Trump appeared to make light of Russian election meddling. It is a bit hard to hear, but listen to what he says to President Putin in response to a reporter's question.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you tell Russia not to meddle in the 2020 election?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Yes, of course I will. Don't meddle in the election please. Don't meddle in the election.
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HOWELL: And from Japan to Russia our teams have the story cover. Our Matthew Chance in Moscow and Nic Robertson in Osaka. I'm starting with you, Nic. These two leaders met. It is the first time they've met since the Mueller report was released on Russian meddling in the U.S.
The first time we've seen them together since Helsinki. And we heard the president just a moment ago, responding to a reporter who ask, are going to ask President Putin about election meddling? You heard what he had to say, tell us about his response because it is getting criticism.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: You know, President Trump's been under a huge amount of pressure every time he meets with President Putin, have warned him off about meddling in U.S. elections and this is becoming more of a pressing issue with the presidential elections coming up next year.
And President Trump on his way over here to Osaka, when he stops in Alaska, he was asked by a journalist there. Again, this very same question, would he tell President Putin not to meddle in the U.S. elections?
And he very clearly said, you know, I'm not -- I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to say, this is not a conversation we're going to talk to you about, which is pretty much encapsulates the whole -- his whole relationship with President Putin.
It's surrounded in mystery. I mean, he meets with him sometimes without a translator or even, or sometimes just one on one without any translators.
But in this case here, again, it was a journalist prompting the president to respond to this issue. And given what he had said before, which was essentially mind your own business. This time he turns it in what really seems to be quite a flip of handed way to President Putin sitting next to him and said don't meddle in the elections, don't meddle in the elections please.
I mean, Putin doesn't at all appear to take him seriously, and President Trump doesn't seem to offer this up with any degree of vim and vigor that you might expect this would be required of a foreign country meddling in your elections.
I think more on this to come obviously, but the way it's gone down here, you know, that was expected the question would be asked, I don't think anyone quite expected to this type of response. HOWELL: Yes. The meeting in Helsinki certainly had some people
scratching their heads, and then again, his comment from the U.S. president aside -- beside Vladimir Putin. So, OK. That aside, Nic, looking beyond this exchange, what are some of the other key issues these leaders will be discussing?
ROBERTSON: I think the big thing that everyone is watching here and waiting for is the bilateral between President Xi of China and President Trump tomorrow. I mean, this is going to get to the issue of the sort of building the trade war between the two countries.
And to that point President Trump was just asked about reports that he had had to agree not increase tariffs as he's threatened to do on an additional $300 billion worth of Chinese goods. He was just asked that question and he said he did not sign off on that as a precondition to get into the meeting with President Xi.
[03:05:04] He was also asked question that seem to lead from a Wall Street Journal article that suggest that President Xi is going to come into that meeting with a list of demands for President Trump.
So, President Trump saying that he hasn't committed to anything getting into this meeting with President Xi.
HOWELL: Our international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson, thank you again for the insight and perspective on it.
Now let's bring in Matthew Chance in our Moscow bureau. Matthew, look, you'll remember President Trump took a great deal of heat for saying just a few weeks ago in an election that he would be open to accepting dirt on whoever he runs against from a foreign government with 2020 around the corner. Is there a sense that there in Russia that Mr. Trump takes election meddling seriously?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I mean, look, I was in that press conference in Helsinki last year when President Trump appeared to take the side of Vladimir Putin over the findings of his own intelligence agencies. And that was real heat that he was taking the, idea that whatever he gets into a room with the Russian leader he seems to completely go wobbling and give away.
And you know, I think no one is expecting any tough talk from Putin this time -- sorry, from Trump this time, least of all Vladimir Putin. He sat there looking quite embarrassed, he gave a little sort of smile when President Trump made that comment to him about not meddling in the elections and waving his finger at him.
You know, but what Putin probably thinks is that, you know, he has got the president of the United States on his side. Yes, Russia has been sanctioned by Congress over its election meddling, but whenever he gets into a room and has a face-to-face meeting with President Trump, President Trump either makes light of it or sort of, you know, agrees with President Putin that it didn't happened or something like that.
And so, you could interpret that as a sort of green light to do more if Russia chose to do so. On the other hand, yes, they have been hit with pretty heavy sanctions from the Congress as a result of their election meddling, George.
HOWELL: And also, Matthew, same question to you from your reporting and insight. What would be the key issues for these two leaders to discuss?
CHANCE: Well, you think it would be that issue of Russia meddling in the 2016 presidential election. But if we leave that aside, I mean, there are whole range of other issues which it would be appropriate for the U.S. president to discuss with Vladimir Putin.
The conflict in Syria, of course, and Russia's backing of Bashar al- Assad against the sort of will of the rest of the international community, the intervention in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. These are still sort of festering course in the relationship between Russia and the west.
Not to mention the Skripal poisoning in Salisbury where Russia is said to have carried out a chemical weapons attack on the streets of Britain. Of course, there had been wide scale sanctions and diplomatic expulsions from the United States as a result of that.
But I think what the White House is actually briefing on, what they're saying is going to be discussed is disarmament, trade and other sort of much less contentious issues between these two political leaders, George.
HOWELL: Senior international correspondent Matthew Chance in Moscow. Matthew, thank you for the reporting.
ALLEN: Well, to U.S. politics now and the race to take on President Trump in 2020. Ten more Democrats took the stage in Miami for the second debate. This one featuring front-runner Joe Biden and one of his top challenges Bernie Sanders.
HOWELL: But it was Kamala Harris, the senator who made many say won the night, she looked presidential many say as she answered questions with poise with clarity. One of the sharp exchanges came when she challenged Biden on issues of racial justice from decades ago. Listen.
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SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: But I also believe -- and it is personal, and I was actually very -- it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country.
And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me.
JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's a mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not praise racists. Everything I've done in my career. I ran because of civil rights. I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights and those civil rights by the way, include not just African-Americans but the LGBT community.
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[03:09:55] HOWELL: All right. Polls show that healthcare though, is a top issue of Democrats in 2020, and the candidates spent the first half hour of this debate talking specifically about that.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The function of the healthcare system today is to make billions in profits for the insurance companies. We will have Medicare for all when tens of millions of people are prepared to stand up and tell the insurance companies and the drug companies that their day is gone. That healthcare is a human right, not something to make huge profits off of you.
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ALLEN: The immigration crisis at the U.S. border with Mexico was another hot topic. Take a look at this eye-opening moment.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Raise your hand if you think there should be a civil offense rather than a crime across the border without documentation. Let's keep the hands up so we can see them.
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HOWELL: Every Democrat on stage eventually raise their hand. President Trump all the way from Japan seized on that moment. He tweeted, quote, "How about taking care of Americans first. That's the end of the race."
ALLEN: Let's dig right into the debate. CNN's Jeff Zeleny was there in Miami. He joins us now. Hello to you, Jeff. First up, I want to ask you, was there a standout moment from this debate?
JEFF ZELENY, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Natalie, I think there's no question that Senator Kamala Harris had one of the most emotional and personal and searing moments to this debate and indeed of both debates that we've seen over the past couple of days when she confronted former Vice President Joe Biden on race. When she confronted her and explained her personal story growing up in California how she went to school, a public school and integrated school because of busing.
And he of course is a young United States senator oppose school busing. So, she was calling on him to essentially apologize for those views or explain those views at the very least. And she started with saying I do not believe you're a racist but then went into that.
And it seemed to catch the former vice president by surprise a bit. He responded and he defended his past position. But I think that moment from Senator Harris was indeed a break out moment for her. She had a few others during the debate as well but she was sharp and crisp.
And she's a prosecutor, a former prosecutor. She's been in the U.S. Senate for a few years now. But I think she of anyone had a break out moment during that period. And I really think it really showed that Joe Biden is rusty on the debate stage and he struggled a little bit to make his point particularly in that instance.
ALLEN: Right. And we also know Bernie Sanders called out Biden on another topic, that would be the Iraq war. How did he handle that one?
ZELENY: I mean, Senator Bernie Sanders and former Senator Joe Biden served for a long time in the Senate together and he got called out for his vote on Iraq. You know, that wasn't exactly a new argument, we've heard Bernie Sanders do that before.
I think that Joe Biden is someone who, he was trying to, you know, defend his past record, of course, he has the longest record of anyone on the stage. And then pivot forward to talk about his plans for the future. But he seemed to struggle a little bit to take command of the stage.
His entire argument is that he believes that he is the strongest Democrat to beat President Trump. That was not necessarily apparent tonight. It was clear that he is going to work for this, he's going to have to be in the mix of this.
But, Natalie, I was struck by one thing, one of their younger rivals on the far end of the stage California Congressman Eric Swalwell. Basically, said it's time for a new generation of leadership.
I caught up with Senator Sanders shortly after the debate, and he said he found that remark to be ageist. He said you can't discriminate on a variety of things so he said that you cannot discriminate on age as well.
Of course, you can make the case that running for president obviously a very tough demanding and grueling job so age is one of the many considerations. But it was striking the generational divide on stage, as well as the ideological divide inside this Democratic Party at this moment.
ALLEN: Right. Interesting spin there on ageism, wasn't it? Also, healthcare came up in this debate. That is something that many candidates -- people that are voting care about they don't think the candidates are addressing enough. And then there was Mayor Pete Buttigieg who talked about immigrants do pay taxes.
ZELENY: Exactly. And I think South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg was one who has not had a lot of experience on the national stage, certainly, and certainly not the debating stage. He did make a several points and certainly got his voice into the argument into the debate and he did talk about how he believes undocumented immigrants should be allowed a health service.
I think the biggest distinction on healthcare was the fact that the idea of abolishing private insurance for this Medicare for all. Bernie Sanders has been leading the charge on that, many Democrats on stage believe that is the wrong approach.
[03:15:04] Only two raise their hands when the moderators asked if they should indeed abolish private insurance. So that is going to be something that President Trump and other Republicans are smiling about because they believe the position is extreme.
That is something that is in fact, not supported by a majority Americans, abolishing private health insurance. So, this is something that is, you know it's really going to be a divide, it is a divide inside this Democratic Party over what's the next phase, if you will, of Obamacare.
Several Democratic rivals from Joe Biden to Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado who said no, no, look, it's time for a public option to expand the Affordable Care Act but not abolishing private healthcare.
So, this is the first of many debates, Natalie. The next one CNN will be hosting in July in Detroit.
ALLEN: All right.
ALLEN: We are just warming up, are we not? OK. Jeff Zeleny for us. Thank you, Jeff.
HOWELL: All right. Still ahead, the scramble to rescue the Iran nuclear agreement. Six countries are getting ready to meet in Vienna, a crucial talk on that deal. We'll have more on the view from Iran's capital.
ALLEN: Also ahead, their deaths have come to symbolize the crisis on the U.S. border. The bodies of the migrant father and border who drowned in the Rio Grande are on their way to back to El Salvador.
ALLEN: In the coming hours, the countries that signed the Iran nuclear deal minus the United States are to meet in Vienna to discuss ways to save it.
HOWELL: This comes after Iran threatened to ramp up its low-grade uranium unless they're provided some path to get relief from the U.S. sanctions.
Let's go live to the capital of Iran, Tehran. Our senior international correspondent Fred Pleitgen is live there this hour. And Fred, clearly, there is pressure on the Iranian economy. With Iran turning that pressure on the E.U. is there a sense that somehow this deal could be salvaged?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I think right now it's very difficult. And I think both the Iranians as well the European nations and the other signatories that are still abiding by the nuclear agreement like China and Russia. I think, George, that they are really feeling that the deal might
slowly be slipping away. It's quite interesting because you have these negotiations of course going on today.
And I just picked up an item here from Iranian state media, the state news agency where the deputy foreign minister of the country who is usually in charge of dealing with a lot of these issues around the nuclear agreement.
[03:20:03] He said that Iran as he put it their strategic patience has run out. The Iranians are essentially saying that you have the U.S. that pulled out of the nuclear agreement. The Iranians believe that the U.S. is now forcing the rest of the world to also not honor that agreement anymore.
Obviously, you have these massive sanctions at Iran, the Iranians barely being able to export any sort of oil. I mean, they do export oil, it's countries that are essentially busting the sanctions like, for instance, China. And the Iranians are essentially saying look, we've had enough of that.
And that's one of the reasons why they've that once they reach that level of the amount of low enriched uranium, they are allowed to have under the deal which is 300 300 kilograms, they say they are going to massively ramped up their production of low enrich uranium because first of all, they can stockpile anywhere. And second of all, they feel that there are certain parts of the nuclear agreement that they just simply won't abide by until they get some sort of sanctions relief.
The Europeans by the way, they wrote a letter to the Iranians saying that there will be consequences if Iran does not abide by parts of the nuclear agreement. The Iranian foreign minister then yesterday wrote a letter back to the Europeans, saying that the Iranians are very serious about all of this and they want to see that sanctions relief and they want to see it really quickly.
So, you really feel, George, that that situation is really ramping up. Now all that of course at the same time as you generally have the tensions here between the U.S. and Iran still very high.
Just last night, once again that Twitter war of words between Trump and Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif going into the next round with Javad Zarif, the foreign minister of Iran, in a tweet listing all the things that he believes President Trump needs to do or needs to watch out for.
One of them is that -- the first one is, sanctions aren't an alternative to war. They are war. So basically, that's Iran's position. They say they are abiding by the nuclear agreement; they want to continue to abide by the nuclear agreement even if certain provisions are going to be not abided by.
They say in general they would like to keep the deal in place. But they also say, right now, it is in a very, very difficult situation so those talks are going to extremely important, George. HOWELL: Certainly, the world is watching what these leaders have to
say and following their Twitter feeds as well. Fred Pleitgen, live for us in Tehran. Thank you, Fred.
ALLEN: The bodies of Oscar Martinez and Angie Valeria are on their way back to El Salvador. They will be buried together, far away from where the father and daughter were found in the Rio Grande near the U.S. border with Mexico.
HOWELL: Their deaths have become a symbol the human toll of what's happening at the border. Some migrants say they would rather die in that river than go back to their homeland.
Our Michael Holmes has this.
MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR/CORRESPONDENT: A Mexican woman places a single rose and says a prayer at a place where Oscar Martinez and his daughter Angie Valeria died, a poignant tribute to the latest and most visual victims of the migrant crisis.
Later, National Guard and federal police come by to investigate they tell us, but they quickly leave. The ripple effects of what happened here continue.
One Mexican state government posting on social media warning people not to do what Oscar Martinez did. If you lose your life, it says, there will be no future or dream to pursue.
In this border town of Matamoros migrants wait for their turn to plead their case to the U.S. These days instead of doing that in the U.S. they wait here, sometimes for months.
So many people here say they know exactly why Oscar Martinez did what he did. But they're too scared to go on camera and talk about the system and how broken it is. They say that they won't go on camera because they're worried they'll get seen in the U.S. and that will jeopardize their chances.
You got to understand that. One of them said to us I would rather jump in that river and die than go back to my country.
We meet Xiomara Mejia waiting here two months with her three children having fled gang threats at home in Honduras, she says.
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XIOMARA MEJIA, MIGRANT (through translator): First, before everything else, I need to give safety to my children.
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HOLMES: Xiomara, like others said she can see what drove Oscar Martinez to get into that river.
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MEJIA (through translator): You understand the desperation that leads to making these decisions where everything can go well or badly. They bet all or nothing, and sadly, luck was on their side.
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HOLMES: In El Salvador, preparations are being made for the funeral of Oscar and Angie Valeria, father and daughter to be buried together along with their dreams of a better life.
As we report, U.S. border patrol boats stood by on the Rio Grande, the rose the woman place here washes away in the wake.
Michael Holmes, CNN, Matamoros, Mexico.
HOWELL: Michael, thanks.
The U.S. House has adopted a $4.6 billion Senate bill to send emergency funding to the border. Part of the money will go to healthcare for children in federal custody.
[03:25:03] ALLEN: The vote provoked deep divisions among House Democrats to get adopted their own bill earlier, but Speaker Nancy Pelosi finally agreed to support the Senate measure instead. Progressive say the final bill needed more protections for the children.
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REP. ILHAN OMAR (D-MN): We had an opportunity to put forth a humanitarian policy, and we wasted that opportunity and it's quite sad.
REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ (D-NY): We could've negotiated it in, we could've conference, we could've tried to get amendments in to get humanitarian provisions put in, to get consequences for facilities that abuse kids in. And instead, what we're doing is that we're immediately going to just saying yes to what got passed out of the Senate. We are a House majority, and we need to act like it.
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HOWELL: One facility in Texas, at there -- at that facility more than 100 migrant children are being held in what independent monitor say were poor conditions.
ALLEN: CNN's Nick Valencia has spoken with the man whose sister is in that facility seeking asylum in the U.S.
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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You can hear in his voice that Antonio Jamie Morales is terrified. His sister Isabela Morales is currently being held in the Clint border patrol station near El Paso. The same facility we were invited to tour without cameras. Officials citing safety and security of the children. It was during
our tour that we overheard 17-year-old Isabela, originally from Guatemala on the phone with her brother, telling him, "Estoy vivo," "I'm alive."
He said the people there are scared for their lives. While he is thankful for the news, Isabela's brother Antonio, a legal U.S. resident, is wrestling with the thought that his sister will likely be brought to go to Mexico to wait out her asylum case.
For him it's better that she stays here because it's safer and she has a better chance at fighting for her asylum case.
In a rare rebuke coming from within the administration, the nation's asylum workers union ask the federal court to end the controversial policy that requires asylum seekers to now wait it out in Mexico.
Saying in a court filing that it, quote, "Should not be forced to honor departmental directives that are fundamentally contrary to the moral fabric of our nation and our international and domestic legal obligations."
The union says Mexico is too dangerous for asylum seeking migrants especially women who can expect to wait at least six months, and in some cases, years, for their asylum cases to be heard.
Meanwhile, nearly 2,000 miles away from the Rio Grande as Washington debates border funding legislation this haunting image of a father and daughter who drowned trying to come to the U.S. rattled lawmakers from both sides of the aisle including Speaker Pelosi who struggle to answer when asked about it on Thursday.
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NANCY PELOSI, UNITED STATES SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: So, I can just imagine how that happened. And I -- I just think it's such a shame for that to be the face of America around the world.
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VALENCIA: Nick Valencia, CNN, Clint, Texas.
ALLEN: well, coming up here, breakthroughs and roadblocks. We look at the possibility and challenges facing leaders at the G20 summit.
HOWELL: Plus, much more on the Democrats debate that took place in Miami, Florida. We will show you the best one liner of the night. That's next here on CNN Newsroom.
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NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to our viewers joining us from all around the world, we appreciated it. This is CNN Newsroom, I'm Natalie Allen.
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm George Howell with headlines we are following for you this hour. Leaders of the world's most powerful economies are together in Osaka, Japan right now meeting at the G20 summit. The U.S. President Donald Trump met with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin and appeared to make light of Russian interference in the U.S. Elections in response to a reporter's question. He leaned over towards Putin and said, don't meddle in the elections.
ALLEN: Tunisia's 92 year-old president was rushed to the hospital shortly after two suicides bombings in the capital of Tunis. The first targeted, a police patrol, killing one officer, 10 minutes later, a police station was hit. ISIS has claimed responsibility, as for the president, he has said to be seriously ill.
HOWELL: Democrats hoping to win back the White House that wrapped up their second debate in Miami, Florida. Kamala Harris dominated the contest, hitting front runner Joe Biden on racial justice issues. Bernie Sanders is forced to defend his plan for universal health care.
ALLEN: The candidates outlined their positions on other hot topics, including immigration and gun control. Joe Biden said his number one issue is beating Donald Trump. Bernie Sanders called the president a racist and a pathological liar.
HOWELL: When all the candidates came together, when they try to talk over one another, Kamala Harris broke through with what many say it was one of the best one liners of the night.
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SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA), U.S. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hey guys, you know what, America does not want to witness a food fight, they want to know how are we going to put food on their tables.
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HOWELL: Let's talk all of this now with CNN's senior political analyst, Ron Brownstein. Ron, joining us this hour from Aspen, Colorado. Good to have you with us.
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST, SENIOR EDITOR OF THE ATLANTIC: Good to be here.
HOWELL: Ron, let's start with who broke out tonight and who broke down and lost an opportunity in this debate. There's a lot of buzz for sure about Kamala Harris and some critics disappointed in Joe Biden, who came into this the front runner.
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. I think both sides are right, you know, you rarely have a debate with this many candidates that has his clear break out as we saw from Kamala Harris tonight. But I would say that that was part of kind of a larger shift in the tectonic plates of this race, potentially that we saw. This debate may or may not move the needle immediately, but I thought it moved the axis of the discussion, in an important way. The fact that Biden and Bernie Sanders were situated next to each
other, was reflective of the basic divide we have been following in this race so far, which is mostly been kind of the centrists like Biden, Amy Klobuchar, John Hickenlooper, Michael Bennett, against the more left candidates like, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, most prominently, but several others.
Tonight, I thought Biden and Bernie look less separated by ideology than united by age. I mean, each of them seemed to be a step slow and running behind the younger, more diverse candidates that were immediately flanking them. Both Pete Buttigieg next to Biden, and Kamala Harris, of course, next to Sanders.
And Kamala Harris, Senator Harris, of course, really directly raised the issue of whether the modern diverse Democratic Party wants at its standard bearer a politician who has been in politics for 50 years, and who because he was the only one with a very different Democratic coalition at the time, took positions that are very difficult to explain to today's Democratic coalition. I think it was potentially an important debate in shifting this kind of long term focus from left-right, to kind of old-new.
HOWELL: You know, you talk about that, and there was a really interesting window into that very issue, specifically that exchange over bustling and states' rights.
HOWELL: The vice president not apologizing for his stance on the bustling issue in the past, saying it should be left up to the states. Very interesting to hear that from a Democrat, and then Kamala Harris making the point that busting was pivotal to her saying, essentially that girl was me. This debate from many decades ago doesn't make one candidate look more out of touch, would you say, than the other?
[03:35:00] BROWNSTEIN: You know, I think we've talked about this before. Joe Biden was first elected in the public office in 1970, which means if he is the Democratic nominee in 2020, he will be the nominee 50 years after he was first elected to public office.
George, that has never happened in American political history. Not in the Democratic Party, not in the Republican Party, not in the wig (ph) party or the Federalist Party. We've never had a nominee chosen for the first time 50 years after his first election, and what that means is he took position and faced issues and also face pressures that are very different from where the party is today. And nothing symbolizes that I think as much as bustling.
You know, I have not heard him make that distinction before, certainly some of about -- essentially, he wanted local control and was only fighting the federal engagement in it. Some of his comments were I think critical of bustling itself, at the time suggesting he was racist to assume that African-American kids could only learn if they were around white kids, for example, but more fundamentally, as you were noting, the logic of that would have precluded the federal government from getting involve in everything on civil rights. Was it really up to Alabama and Mississippi to decide whether public
accommodations needed to be integrated or whether a poll tactics was still a viable way of determining who should vote? You know, I don't know if people are going to blame him for that per se, because it was 45 years ago and I think many African-American leaders in their own party will acknowledge the party face very different pressures at that point, but it does go to these larger issue of whether he -- someone rooted in an era so different is really the right person to mobilize this very different Democratic coalition today.
HOWELL: You know, there's also a very important moment for Mayor Pete Buttigieg, that moment where he was asked about his city's police department and why the city has such a small percentage of African- American officers in relation to the City's population. The mayor essentially saying, he just couldn't get it done. Contrast that with the vice president's inability to apologize. How was that moment for Mayor Pete?
BROWNSTEIN: I thought that was actually quite good and I thought he was quite good in the whole debate. I mean, I thought -- I would agree with kind of everyone, you know, in the continental U.S. who thought that Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg were the standouts here, and also again representing that generational change and that demographic diversity. Buttigieg is the first openly gay candidate for president. I thought he did quite well.
His problem is that right now, he is kind of constrained, he is what I appraised that I coined about 15 years ago -- a wine track candidate in the Democratic Party. Meaning essentially, he appeals almost entirely to white upper middle-class liberals, he cannot -- so far he has not appeal to African American voters and it's really hard to imagine after everything he has been dealing within the last few days, that that's going to get a lot easier for him.
The reason that Harris is potentially formidable, if she can kind of get out of second year, which is where she has been stuck for most of this race, and certainly she seemed to suggest that tonight, is that she has the potential to not only do well again among African American voters, but also among college educated white women, and between them, a college educated white women and African American voters are about 45 percent of all Democratic voters.
I'm not saying that Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders have dissipated all of their assets in this race in one night, they both have a lot of assets. And Biden in particular is very strong among older Democrats, you know, leading by three or four to one in polls, but if his core claim to the nomination is that he is potentially the strongest nominee against Donald Trump, there was nothing that happened on that stage tonight that would reassure people of that, you know, and trying to imagine him debating Trump. If anything, I think Harris looks like someone who could, as she said, prosecute the case against the president.
HOWELL: It was an interesting debate for sure. Ron Brownstein, we appreciate your insight. Thank you.
BROWNSTEIN: Thank you.
ALLEN: We returned now to the G20 summit in Japan. U.S. President Trump says he expects productive talks with China's President Xi Jinping. Among the topics, the trade war and rising tariffs. Now, Naoyuki Yoshino, is Dean at the Asian Development Bank Institute, and joins us from Osaka. Thanks so much for being with us Mr. Yoshino. I want to start here. Do you think there will be significant progress toward easing China-U.S. trade tensions here? If there isn't, do you expect world financial markets will be disappointed and have a clear decline?
NAOYUKI YOSHINO, DEAN AT THE ASIAN DEVELOPMENT BANK INSTITUTE: I think they are meeting today in Osaka today and tomorrow is very important. Because of the trade dispute. The market has a pessimistic atmosphere, so I don't think discussions will go very well. And I think they hope, not only to discuss about trade issues, but also they should talk about capital probe, liberalization of the capitol probe of China and the exchange rate should be market oriented. Those are the very important discussions.
[03:40:05] Because 1980's, Japan and Germany were the two nations exporting a lot to the U.S. Then, Japan had started to liberalized exchange rate, and Germany, Japan has started to set up factories into Asia, U.S., and Europe. So that kind of a production network should be followed by China.
ALLEN: Well, if the U.S. and China engaged in a trade war, and the U.S. and China buy less from each other, could other nations in East Asia as examples, Japan, or the Philippines, gain by exporting more to China and to the U.S.?
YOSHINO: I think there are lots of transportation network and also (inaudible) networks going on. Currently, Asia is exporting a lot to U.S. and Europe. However, neither class of Asian economies are growing. So, for several years later, I think that Asia, will also clear a big market, not only U.S. and Europe. So in the short run, it may go on trade disputes, but in several years later, Asia itself can have lots of imports from U.S., Europe and also trade relations among Asia could be created.
ALLEN: And do you think a lack of progress in the talks leading to a major China-U.S. trade war could cause a global recession?
YOSHINO: I hope it will not happen in the talks, especially I hope that they can talk about not only trade issues, but also exchange rate liberalization, market oriented exchange rate system and also capital mobility. If some country is trading so much surplus, then exchange rates will be appreciated and that will reduce the export from one country to another. So market oriented exchange rates is another important topic they should discuss. I hope they will not focus just on trade, but also looking at exchange rate, capital mobility, and also the (inaudible) of their discussions.
ALLEN: Well, with the summit their happening in Japan, I want to ask you, Japan has the world's oldest population, and aging will shrink its labor force. What must it do to remain one of the world's leading economies?
YOSHINO: Yes. The aging population is a serious problem for Japan. Japan had a very high growth potential, however, when we are facing with Asian populations. The effectiveness of monetary policy has drastically limitations. In the textbooks, people think, if their economy is not doing very well, we should do monetary policies or fiscal policies, but I found out, when the population is Asian, the effectiveness of maritime policy diminishes.
The reason is, monetary policy is a affecting to the companies to produce. However, the entire population are outside of the influence of monetary policy. So, when the population is aging, effectiveness of monetary policies diminishes. What is important is structural reform, especially letting older people to keep on working as long as possible, and then rely less on patients and social welfare. So, what the Asian population we are facing in Japan should look at structural reforms, rather than relying on monetary or fiscal policy. That could be a very good lesson to the growing economy and other economies.
ALLEN: We certainly appreciate your time and your expertise, and we will be following the summit closely, Naoyuki Yoshimo, thank you so much.
YOSHINO: Thank you very much.
HOWELL: In India, a water shortage is putting millions of people at risk there and the problem, well, it's only getting worse.
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HOWELL: Welcome back to CNN Newsroom. India is in the middle of a very severe heat wave. More than 130 people died as a result, this summer alone in the monsoon rains that usually bring relief, we, it came late this year.
ALLEN: And for cities facing critical water shortages, it's been too little too late. Nikhil Kumar shows us how the water crisis is spreading across the entire country.
NIKHIL KUMAR, CNN NEW DELHI'S BUSINESS CHIEF: Hundreds of thousands forced to line up behind tankers. Sometimes for hours, with precious buckets of that basic of human necessities, water. These were the scenes in Chennai, India's six largest city and its water supply nearly ran out.
But this isn't an isolated problem, India is facing a nationwide water crisis. Here in the capital New Delhi, as summer temperatures soar that seems of common residents lining up to collect water from tanker. That's their only supply of clean water now. This is government tanker, but too often they have to resort (inaudible) in sums to private tankers from the government supply isn't enough.
As country battles a brutal heat wave that has killed more than 130 people this summer, as many as 600 million Indians are estimated to be facing an acute water shortage. Critical reservoirs such as (inaudible) that supply Chennai have almost dried up. The result of lower than usual rainfall.
And years of mismanagement have cause groundwater levels to plummet, a long-term problem that experts say will take years to remedy. It's so bad, that 21 major Indian cities including New Delhi, as well as India's technology capital Bengaluru are forecast surround of groundwater by 2020.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What you see in Chennai is a shock on manifestation of the water crisis, but it's a long term trend of declining water the sources of (inaudible).
KUMAR: The upshots, mass desperation and anger. In Chennai, residents came out with empty containers to demand actions. There were similar scenes in (Inaudible), southwest of Chennai where 550 people including political activists were arrested for protesting outside of government buildings. Yet there's no quick fix.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It only gets worse before it gets better. This is not just a two day problem or a one week problem before the monsoons hit. This is a problem that is there to stay.
KUMAR: And so even after Chennai, tens of millions more could be force to scramble for something that so many of us take for granted. Nikhil Kumar, CNN, New Delhi.
HOWELL: All right. That is the situation in India. And in Europe much of the same. Heatwave there has already forced some schools in France to close.
ALLEN: Yes. Let's bring in meteorologist, Derek Van Dam, who is in the World Weather Center. Derek, I've been looking at pictures on the internet and it just seems very few are being spared right now in Europe.
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes. That is right. Now schools are closed, but it's already caused forest fires and is already buckled some railroad pines, believe it or not because of the heat. It's also caused poor air quality for many of the large cities over western and central Europe. Here's what's happening, were actually drawn in this warm air from the Sahara in North Africa. This ridge of high pressure just causing that extreme of very high temperatures for the Iberian peninsula as well as much of western and central portions of the continent.
[03:50:04] Now, what you are looking at is a departure from normal map. Here's Africa, here's Europe and look at that dark shading of red centered across France and Spain. That is an area where we have seen above average temperatures for the majority of this week. And we are really peeking with are heat wave right now as we head into early parts of the weekend for that area.
In fact, we have set June record maximum temperatures now, not only for Germany, the Czech Republic, and we talked about that yesterday, but France has now been then added to that dubious list. We had a temperature recorded a 42.3 degrees and that might get hotter than that. And we just checked the airport readings for Madrid's temperature at the airport yesterday, they broke their June high temperature. Still needs to be confirmed, but that was at 40.3 degrees Celsius and it could potentially get warmer than that today for Madrid in Spain.
Now I want to show you some of the video coming out of Catalonia, this area has seen over 65 hundred hectares already burned, because temperatures continue to store, the conditions are extremely dry. And you could see the hundreds of firefighters that are battling these blazers, trying to get them contained unfortunately with the heat and the dry conditions in place, we expect this to spread. Potentially as far as 20,000 hectares through the course of the weekend. So, not good news there.
There's the forecast temperature for Madrid, 42 today 42 tomorrow, more the same than to loose. Leon, you could see temperatures in the upper 30's so the big story here of course, is the excessive heat. There is however some relief in sight, look at the temperatures starting to go on the downward trend as we head into the first half of next week. There's a cold front that is going to help push back the heat towards the Mediterranean, you could see the shades of green shifting into at least the western section of Europe.
Now, we have a big soccer match today, the Women's World Cup taking place in Paris. Quarterfinals, we've got France versus USA, it will be hot to start out, but it will cool off nicely, kick off this evening 9:00 p.m. so we got that going for them, right. Natalie and George.
ALLEN: Yes they do.
HOWELL: All right. We'll take whatever they can get.
ALLEN: Cool ways. Thanks Derek.
HOWELL: Derek, thanks. All right.
ALLEN: The intensity is building and you mentioned it the Women's World Cup. Friday seem a blockbuster match as Derek just mentioned, when France and the U.S. face off. And England will be waiting for the winner, will show you how the lioness's roared into the semifinals next.
ALLEN: Apple's chief design officer, you probably heard of him, Jony Ive. That is Sir Jony Ive is leaving the company now after almost 30 years. Apple just announced Ive will start his own design company, but he will continue to work closely on Apple projects.
HOWELL: Jony Ive and Apple's co-founder Steve Jobs, both partnered on a remarkable run of products and Ive played an award winning role in the sleek design of the candy colored Imax, the iPod and the original iPhone that helped provide Apple's fortune, he helped make Apple into one of the world's most valuable company.
ALLEN: You could say he's a bit of a success.
HOWELL: Pretty important fellow there. It's a clash of titans later at the Women's World Cup. The host and holder will face off on Friday.
ALLEN: And England will be waiting for whoever wins that match. USA or France. Our Patrick Snell previews what's ahead, and looked at why England is suddenly dreaming of glory.
[03:55:05] PATRICK SNELL, CNN SPORTS REPORTER: At the Women's World Cup in France, it's all eyes on Friday's blockbuster of a quarterfinal clash between the host nation France and World Champions at the USA, but both those teams now know it's England to lie and wait for the winners, after the Lionesses three-no victory over the 1995 winners Norway on Thursday in the (Inaudible). The English have never won the Women's World Cup, but they were ahead after just 127 seconds. Jill Scott making no mistake with the finish there, and look at this, the Manchester City midfield are being cheered on by a majesty night legendary iconic David Beckham no less in the crowd there.
Now ahead of the match, England Phil Neville had said, Ellen White now also was the ultimate threat, and he is front of goal, to prove her point, her fifth strike of the tournament, making it two to no, in favor of the English. Just shy of the hour mark, a stunning strike as two become three. The ball is teed up brilliantly for Lucy Bronze, and she just smashes it hard in the Norwegian keeper. Utterly un- savable, three-no, it would end heartbreak for Norway, but scenes of joy for the Lionesses, who now becomes the first English team ever to reach a third successive semi-final at a major tournament. Fans loving it as well. So, there's also a second consecutive semi-final in FIFA World Cup for the Lionesses, hoping to go one better now than their semi-final defeat in the last World Cup in Canada. But to do that, a reminder, they have got to get past the winner of that huge match on Friday. The USA against the host country France.
ALLEN: Absolutely. We will be covering that for you.
HOWELL: Yes. So, OK, believe it or not. What you are about to see here, it's not dirt. Take a look here. This is actually a swarm of bugs. Mayflies, to be exact, they are hatching fast and invading parts of Ohio.
ALLEN: These swarms come from Lake Erie and are actually a positive sign, scientists say it means the quality of the water in the great lakes is good. Luckily, mayflies don't stay around for long, they live up to two days once they come on land. Swarms typically last about a month and I guess that person won't be driving that car.
HOWELL: How fun will that be to clean that car? ALLEN: Thank you for parking on my car, mayflies. All right. Thank
you everyone for joining us, we appreciate it and we will see you back here Friday night, Saturday morning. I'm Natalie Allen.
HOWELL: And I'm George Howell. The news continues with our colleague Max Foster in London.