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Trump Tweets Invite To Kim Jong-un For "Handshake" At DMZ; Trump Declares China Trade Talks "Back On Track"; Buttigieg Attends Peace Walk As Racial Tensions Flare; Trump: Harris Given "Too Much Credit" Over Biden Debate Exchange; 2020 Democrats Look To Build Momentum Off Debate Performances; Castro Visits Migrant Detention Center In Clint, Texas, Today; Pregnant Woman Shot, Then Indicted For Death Of Unborn Child; U.S. Ousts Host France In 2-1 Quarterfinal Win After Trump/Rapinoe War Of Words; How Protests At Stonewall Inn 50 Years Ago Brought Gay Rights Fight To Forefront. Aired 1-2p ET
Aired June 29, 2019 - 13:00 ET
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[13:00:47] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, again. Thank you so much for joining me this Saturday. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.
Right now, President Trump is in South Korea and all eyes are on the DMZ to see if North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-un, will take President Trump up on his offer for a quick meeting there.
This wouldn't be your typical meeting between two world leaders with a formal invite and weeks of preparation. The President Trump actually initiated the whole thing, very casually, on Twitter. Writing, "If Chairman Kim, of North Korea, sees this, I would meet him at the border, DMZ, just to shake his hand and say hello."
Before leaving for the G20 summit, President Trump talked about his hopes for his trip.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I understand that we may be meeting with Chairman King -- Kim, and we'll find out. We spoke with the people. Kim Jong-un was very receptive. He responded. So we'll see.
Tomorrow, we're going to the DMZ. I said, while I'm there, I'll shake his hand. We get along. There's been no nuclear tests. There's been no long-range ballistic tests. Gave us back our hostages, which was great. And a lot of good things are happening over there.
I let him know we'll be there and we'll see. I mean, I can't tell you exactly, but they did respond very favorably.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you tell us how you see all this unfolding? And if you do meet Kim Jong-un at the DMZ tomorrow, would you step across the border into North Korea?
TRUMP: Sure, I would. I'd feel very comfortable doing that. I would have no problem.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do you think it possible that there would be a third one-on-one summit with --
TRUMP: Oh, sure.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: -- Chairman Kim within this year?
TRUMP: Well, it might happen tomorrow, I mean, to be honest. We won't call it a summit. We'll call it a handshake if it does happen. I don't know that it will, but it could happen. I know I think he'd like to do it and I wouldn't mind doing it at all.
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WHITFIELD: Let's check in with CNN's White House Correspondent, Abby Phillip, in Seoul.
What are you hearing about whether something could really come of this?
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Fred, this was something that really came together very last minute. Frankly, this kind of Twitter diplomacy is really unusual.
But it would be historic if President Trump with were to not only go to the DMZ but have an impromptu, a very brief handshake or meeting with Kim at the DMZ and also step over on to North Korean soil. All of that would be fairly incredible if it were to happen.
And it's all happening, in part, because the Trump administration -- President Trump himself is trying to restart things with North Korea, trying to get these talks back up and running by reaching out to Kim personally, and saying, let's meet face to face, let's shake hands, using that personal relationship that he's believed he's established with the North Korean leader to try to get things going again.
The problem is we're not sure if Kim is going to show up. The White House has made it clear that after the president tweeted that invitation, they seemed some kind of acknowledgement from the North Koreans that they received the message, that they understood what President Trump was trying to say. But will Kim actually show up? It's anybody's guess at this point.
But at the same time, President Trump is hoping he cannot only make that sort of very important visual moment happen but also use this as a way to jump start those talks that in recent months have stagnated after President Trump walked out of the last summit without a deal.
And in recent weeks, they had begun talking again through letters. President Trump received a birthday letter from Kim and he returned the favor with yet another letter. That's all been building up to this moment.
And we'll all find out soon, in just a few hours, whether or not this is going to actually happen -- Fred? WHITFIELD: The president talked about a lot of things. And he also
weighed in on relations with China. What more can you tell us about what his hopes are, aspirations are there?
PHILLIP: Well, this is the other big piece of news that came out of this new conference as we all waited to find out whether President Trump's meeting with China's President Xi Jinping will make a difference in the trade talks, which, like the North Korean talks, have been stalled for several months now with no comprehensive deal the U.S. has been seeking on the table.
[13:05:07] President Trump described their meeting as positive and he said the outcome of it is not going to be that he's going to lift existing tariffs, but he's not going to put new tariffs on $350 billion in Chinese goods.
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TRUMP: I promise that, at least for the time being, we are not going to put more tariffs on China. We won't be adding an additional tremendous amount -- I guess we have $350 billion left that could be taxed or tariffed. We're not doing that.
We're going to work with China on where we left off to see if we can make a deal. China is going to start -- they're going to be consulting with us and they're going to start spending money, even during the negotiation, to our farmers, our great farmers in the Midwest.
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PHILLIP: So no grand bargain yet but a truce of sorts on that front. And it will be good news to U.S. manufacturers and consumers. And of course, Wall Street that has been dreading the prospect that more tariffs could be on the horizon -- Fred?
WHITFIELD: Abby Phillip, thank you so much, in Seoul, South Korea.
There are a ton of logistics involved here, even for a short meeting or potential handshake that the president is proposing. President Trump weighed in on that possibility of Kim Jong-un actually taking him up on his invitation.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER:: You made this very public invitation to Kim Jong-un. Will it be a bad sign if he doesn't show up?
TRUMP: No. Of course, I thought of that. I know if he didn't, everyone is going to say, oh, he was stood up by Chairman Kim. No, I understood that. It's very hard to -- he follows my Twitter. And it's very hard --
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER:: He does?
TRUMP: Yes, I guess so -- (CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: -- because we got a call very quickly. A lot of people follow it.
But, you know, they've contacted us and said they'd like to see if they could do something. And we're not talking about extended, just a quick hello. And we get along.
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WHITFIELD: CNN's Will Ripley is joining me now from Seoul, South Korea.
This planning would be quite involved. But if it's this spontaneous, does that mean absent of any kind of planning or was there something potentially in the works here?
WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we thought once it was confirmed that President Trump was traveling to the DMZ that there could be a chance of some kind of interaction with Kim Jong-un.
I do need to mention, Fred, the whole Twitter thing. I've been in North Korea during the fire and fury days where President Trump would tweet something and the North Korean officials would respond pretty quickly. It's incredible to think how closely they're following Twitter now when they probably didn't pay much attention to it before the Trump presidency.
But in terms of the planning for tomorrow, they're going to have to decide on a lot of things, even if it is just a couple of minutes that the two -- the two leaders interact.
Will President Trump walk across the military demarcation line, much like President Moon did during the first inter-Korean summit last April?
Will President Trump make history as the first U.S. president to enter one of those blue huts, the military Armistice Commission conference room, where North Korean soldiers and South Korean soldier both have a key to the room? They actually lock the door to the room to make sure the other side isn't in there at the same time.
Could President Trump walk in there and have a chat with Kim Jong-un at the table where negotiations have taken place over the decades of the establishment of the Demilitarized Zone?
It going to be really extraordinary to see what happens, Fred. Nobody is expecting a breakthrough in terms of negotiations.
But what's going to happen potentially is that Kim and Trump are going to capitalize on the one thing that they have. They don't have an agreement about denuclearization but they do apparently have a good relationship. And they could show that to the world in front of the cameras at the DMZ in the coming hours. WHITFIELD: And see how potentially influential that could be.
All right, Will Ripley, in Seoul, South Korea, thank you so much.
Still ahead --
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PETE BUTTIGIEG, (D), SOUTH BEND MAYOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The issues I haven't solved as a mayor are issues that America hasn't solved, that no city has solved, but we've made progress. Sometimes it's three steps forward and two steps back.
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WHITFIELD: Presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg, talking about the challenges of achieving racial equality and why America is due for a reckoning.
[13:09:29] Plus, Senator Kamala Harris sees a spike in fund-raising following her debate performance. But the president of the United States is not so sure that she's a threat to his candidacy.
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WHITFIELD: Democratic presidential candidate and mayor, Pete Buttigieg, has been marching for peace today in his hometown of South Bend, Indiana, where tensions are flaring.
Earlier this month, a white police officer shot and killed Eric Logan, an African-American man, during an investigation of car break-ins. The officer claims Logan was wielding a knife but the officer's body camera was turned off.
At the recent Democratic debate, Buttigieg acknowledged that he, quote, " couldn't get it done," when it comes to his efforts to diversify the police force.
Last night, CNN's Don Lemon asked him what he meant by that.
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BUTTIGIEG: I was asked about the diversity of the South Bend police force. It's an example of an issue that we're wresting with in South Bend and that a lot of cities are seeing. There's a gap in many diverse communities between the diversity of the community itself and the diversity of --
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Did you mean -- I don't mean to cut you off but did you mean, I couldn't find qualified black officers or officers of color, I couldn't find a qualified chief of color or -- what does that mean that you couldn't get it done?
BUTTIGIEG: I couldn't get us to where the number of black officers on department mirrors our community. And it's really important that that happens if we want to have the kind of trust between communities of color and the department that we need.
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WHITFIELD: CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich spoke with Buttigieg just moments ago.
So what did he have to say about this meeting and the funeral taking place today?
VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Hi, Fredricka. Well, the mayor spent over two hours with the community here in South Bend. He started with a peace march that ended at the tent behind me. The mayor was clapping, singing along as he listened to different faith leaders on stage.
[13:15:02] This was in stark contrast to what we saw last weekend when the mayor was confronted by very angry people in the community. It was very, very tense at times.
The mayor had been planning to attend the funeral of the victim, Eric Logan. I asked him why he didn't. And he said it was because the family said it probably wasn't a good idea and he wanted to respect their wishes.
I also asked him what he's learned in these past two weeks, which has been very difficult for him. He says what he's learned is what has happened here in South Bend is not an isolated incident. It is happening all across the United States.
He says that the lessons he's learned here and the realization that there was a broken trust between the police department and the community is something that he would take forward with him if he became president of the United States.
Now, he is going to remain in South Bend until Tuesday. He's going to have at least one other community-related event. And then Tuesday night, he will get back on the campaign trail.
I think we actually just got the sound from when I spoke to the mayor. We'll take a listen quickly to what he had to say.
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BUTTIGIEG: I'm learning about how all things are connected. The reality is you can't separate what happened here from what's happening more broadly, especially in terms of the trust gap that exists. That's a national challenge and it's going to take national action as well leadership within communities full of people of goodwill to get something done.
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YURKEVICH: Fredricka, you heard him speaking, to my point earlier, that he's learned something here in South Bend that he hopes to take with him into the national conversation as he goes forward.
But he'll spend a couple of more days here in South Bend and then back on the campaign trail -- Fredricka?
WHITFIELD: Vanessa Yurkevich, thank you so much for that.
As 2020 Democrats try to build off this week's debate performances, Senator Kamala Harris is seeing a huge spike in donations. Take a look at the numbers. The Harris campaign said it raised more than $2 million online since Thursday's debate began and 58 percent of those were first-time donors.
Meantime, President Trump is defending Joe Biden over the former vice president's back and forth with Senator Harris on Biden's busing record.
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TRUMP: She was given too much credit. He didn't do well, certainly. And maybe the facts weren't necessarily on his side. I think she was given too much credit for what she did. It wasn't that outstanding. And I think probably he was hit harder than he should have been hit.
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WHITFIELD: Let's bring in CNN Political Commentator, Hillary Rosen, and Wendy Osefo, a liberal commentator and race and culture researcher at Johns Hopkins University.
Good to see you both.
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WHITFIELD: Hilary, it's interesting that the president would weight in. Of course, he was asked about it. But it's interesting that he kind of comes to the defense of Joe Biden, who he already acknowledged was kind of his political nemesis in 2020. Does the president's feedback here matter and/or how do you read what he had to say?
HILARY ROSEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Oh, I think that, you know, really no Democratic voter cares what Donald Trump thinks about the debate.
But what is instructive, obviously, is, you know, the way he damns Joe Biden with frank praise. He didn't do very well, she overreached. These are things we'd expect him to say.
But I think the piece that matters for voters is that everybody looked at that debate stage for those two nights and said, who can we see going toe to toe with Donald Trump in a general election debate. And that is relevant.
WHITFIELD: Wendy, do you see that Trump ought to be looking at that field, you know, as a serious threat, that it's no longer really just Joe Biden who's getting everyone's attention, but that Senator Harris, her performance, and the ideas came from Elizabeth Warren, that these are people to reckon with for the president?
WENDY OSEFO, RACE & CULTURE RESEARCHER, JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY: Absolutely. I think Donald Trump should be looking at this field as a serious threat. Anybody that can conjugate a verb, Donald Trump should look at as a serious threat.
When we look at someone like Kamala Harris she came very strong but in a very good way. There has been conversation on whether or not she's presidential, whether she can hold her own and she was able to do that. Not only did she show she could confront former Vice President Joe Biden but she can also do so for Trump.
And that entire is filed with individuals who are bringing forward policies, who are bringing forth new ideas. That's should be a threat for Donald Trump and anyone who thinks that the Republicans are going to stay of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
WHITFIELD: So Senator Elizabeth Warren was back on the trail today, touting her plan for Medicare-for-All. Take a listen.
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[13:20:03] SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA): I'm with Bernie on Medicare-for-All. I'll tell you why. Because I spent a big chunk of my life studying why people go broke. And a big part of this is about health care bills. It's not just health care bills for people who don't have insurance. It's health care bills for people who do have insurance.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's right.
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WHITFIELD: A couple of things, Hilary. It was Elizabeth Warren at the Rainbow/PUSH today. It was Joe Biden yesterday trying to either better explain his position on busing, et cetera.
Why is this particularly important for a candidate to use the megaphone, particularly at the Rainbow/PUSH meeting there with Jesse Jackson?
ROSEN: On the debate stage, you get 10 to 12 minutes. I think Biden had something like 13 or whatever. You can't possibly communicate to the American people everything you want to say. So people tend to use the days after these debates to either, you know, hammer something home or clean up a mess.
And Elizabeth Warren, I think, has been actually pretty aggressive and thoughtful about not being -- she's not afraid to align herself with Bernie Sanders because she's shown on that stage that night and came out of that a winner and I think Joe Biden recognized that he had some cleanup to do.
I think that Kamala Harris' shot at the vice president was a little bit of a cheap shot but what it demonstrated is that Kamala can go toe to toe with power and she benefits from that. WHITFIELD: Wendy, how do you assess how these candidates have
differentiated themselves, thus far, appearing on the debate stage, making appearances. Pete Buttigieg today in South Bend making an appearance at a walk and rally, particularly in response, you know, to concerns and emotions running very high after a police-involved shooting.
OSEFO: What I see is that they took what happened at the debate and they're trying to flesh out those ideas and places that may be seen as weaknesses.
I think, for instance, for the first night of the debate, Castro came on very strong when it came to immigration. And right now, as people are thinking of the whole immigration policy, they're thinking about him and the ways in which he talked about it.
When we're talking about busing and segregation, and what does that look like, the first thought is Harris.
So everyone is having their own little niche right now and they're carving that out. And I think that's really important.
To your earlier question about Rainbow/PUSH and Jesse Jackson, something that has not been underscored here is the importance of the black vote. So, again, how are they speaking to black voters because black voters are the bedrock of the Democratic Party.
And we're seeing that with Buttigieg going to this town hall and making sure that he's showing his concern for the police involved shooting.
So, again, these are things where they're trying to round their bases to make sure all their ducks are in the row.
WHITFIELD: Particularly, with the Democratic vote. I mean, just barely. Almost of half of the Democratic vote is black voters, right?
OSEFO: Yes.
WHITFIELD: All right.
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WHITFIELD: Go ahead, real quick, Hilary.
ROSEN: I was going to say, real, quick, Buttigieg I think is showing a little bit of his inexperience to talk about this issue with blacks and police as kind of a new thing --
OSEFO: Absolutely.
ROSEN: -- something America has to recognize. I think he's got to start to fix that.
WHITFIELD: Hilary Rosen and Wendy Osefo, good to see you both, ladies. Thank you so much. ROSEN: Thank you.
OSEFO: Thank you.
WHITFIELD: Still ahead, President Trump's planned deportation raids back on after being postponed.
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TRUMP: But yes, we will be removing large numbers of people. People have to understand, yes, the laws are --
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: In a week?
TRUMP: Yes, starting in a week after -- sometime after July 4th.
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[13:27:33] WHITFIELD: President Trump says he still plans to begin immigration raids across 10 U.S. cities starting in about a week. Last week, the president called off the raids for two weeks to see if some agreement on immigration reform could be reached with the Democrats.
And at the end of the G20 summit, the president was asked if he will be sticking to that deadline.
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TRUMP: Oh, yes.
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TRUMP: Unless we do something pretty miraculous. But the Democrats, it seems to me, they want to have open borders. For the life of me, I cannot figure that out. It's one thing -- because I want people to come into our country. I'm all for that. The only problem is that they have to come in through a process. They have to come in legally.
But, yes, we will be removing large numbers of people. People have to understand, yes, the laws are --
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: In a week?
TRUMP: Yes, starting in a week after -- sometime after July 4th.
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WHITFIELD: Those cities include San Francisco, Chicago, Houston, New York, and Miami. Several city leaders have said that will not assist in those raids.
Meantime, 2020 Democrats are visiting immigration facilities across the country this week.
Today, Julian Castro is touring a Texas detention center in Clint, Texas, a facility that has faced intense criticism amid reports of horrible conditions. And Beto O'Rourke will host a rally outside that same facility tomorrow.
CNN National Correspondent, Natasha Chen, is live outside that center this morning.
What kind of activity have you seen?
NATASHA CHEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fred, everybody is waiting here for Julian Castro, who we expect in just a few moments.
What we're told from his staff is that he's going to try and tour the facility first before speaking to the press.
We're not sure if he'll be allowed access inside this facility because, after all, he did say that earlier this week he tried to access the Homestead facility on the outskirts of Miami. While he was allowed to see the processing area there, they did not let him in to the main area where the migrants are kept to see the conditions inside.
So we'll see what happened arrives here momentarily.
So far, CNN crews have been given a tour inside Clint here in this facility with no cameras, just pen and paper only.
We're told that the majority of the migrants in this facility are unaccompanied minors, more than a hundred of them, who, on average, stay here between six to 10 days.
[13:30:00] And that is far longer than they're supposed to be kept here. But the folks who have been giving us the tour has said the long
processing time is because of the lack of resources and a bottleneck considering how many migrants are coming in.
So we will see what happens when Castro arrives. And like you said, we are also expecting O'Rourke tomorrow -- Fred?
WHITFIELD: Natasha Chen, thank you so much.
Next, a pregnant woman shot in the stomach is now the one facing charges after her baby died. Will those charges stand? We'll discuss, next.
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WHITFIELD: Alabama finds itself once again in the center of a debate over the rights of pregnant women. This week, a grand jury in Jefferson County indicted 27-year-old Marshae Jones for manslaughter. Jones was five months pregnant when she was shot in the stomach last December, killing her unborn child. Investigators say Jones initiated the fight with the shooter and,
therefore, put her baby at risk. But many are questioning the state's position.
Meanwhile, last month, Alabama passed one of the strictest abortion laws in the country, making it illegal for virtually all abortions in the state.
Let's bring in Avery Friedman, a civil rights attorney and law professor, as well, and criminal defense attorney and professor, Richard Herman.
Good to see you both.
AVERY FRIEDMAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Hi, Fredricka.
RICHARD HERMAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Hey, Fred.
WHITFIELD: Avery, you first.
Police say Jones instigated the fight, but she didn't pull the trigger. In fact, the young woman who shot Jones eventually had her murder and attempted murder charges dropped. The grand jury chose not to indict the shooter because they felt it was in self-defense.
[13:35:18] Help explain the sequence here and how, in the end, it is Jones facing the charges.
FRIEDMAN: I got to tell you, Frederica, you couldn't hire screenwriters to come up with something like this. It's just impossible.
The fact is Miss Jones, who was the victim of the shooting, was indicted on a law which is somewhat unique to Alabama, that if you get into a fight, I guess that gives the person who is being on the other end of the fight an opportunity to pull a gun and shoot you. Everybody's Wyatt Earp down in Alabama.
At the end of the day, she could have been charged with assault, with battery, but, no, they are using a dubiously unconstitutional law to charge Jones, who will face 20 years.
I think ultimately that law is going to be held unconstitutional. I think she goes free unless the prosecutor starts showing some good sense and charge her with the appropriate crimes, not that Alabama law. Doesn't work.
WHITFIELD: Richard, thus far, prosecutors are going full steam ahead on how they are pursuing this case, that it's Jones who should be held culpable here. How do they do that?
HERMAN: It's like my friend, Paul Mooney, says all the time, it's the end of the world. I mean, it's the end of the world.
Look at this fact pattern here and look what's going on. The tragedy is off the charts. This is so tragic -- (CROSSTALK)
HERMAN: -- I can't even begin to analyze it with a legal cap on.
It's just beyond absurd that this woman, who is five months pregnant, and gets recklessly shot by a woman putting five shots, supposedly warning shots, into the pavement, warning shots into the ground, not in the air, to the ground, and one of the bullets ricochets and catches her in the stomach where she's five months pregnant, and the fetus dies, the grand jury in Alabama are facing manslaughter on the shooter, says, no, it's OK, she could have done that.
And now the victim is now not the victim. The fetus is the victim, according to police, and so she gets charged. She's in prison, Fred. She's facing 20 years because she took a risk, a risk under the manslaughter statute, that she should not have taken because, apparently, in Alabama, if you're pregnant and you do anything to risk that child being born healthy, you can be charged criminally.
They are taking women --
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HERMAN: -- they are bringing them back to prehistoric times.
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HERMAN: This is outrageous!
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WHITFIELD: Our CNN affiliate, WBRC, reached out to the district attorney in this case, who said this, "While the grand jury has had its say, our office is in the process of evaluating this case and has not yet made a determination about whether to prosecute it as a manslaughter case, reduce to a lesser charge or not to prosecute it."
So it sounds like there might be some wiggle room or second thoughts.
FRIEDMAN: Oh, yes. There has to be, Fredricka, because under the Alabama law, even if a fetus is not viable, even if it it's not viable, that is a felony. So the law, again, is clearly unconstitutional.
You don't know whether or not some prosecutor that has an ideology wanted to move that agenda along.
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FRIEDMAN: Yesterday, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Alabama anti-abortion law was unconstitutional, wouldn't take the case, let the federal appeals court decision stand. So this is another variation on the same thing.
WHITFIELD: Is this public opinion that potentially is swaying the district attorney's office here or what? Richard? HERMAN: It's political, Fred. They have to run for office, so
politics plays a big part of it down there. These are all holy rollers over there. They're going to support --
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FRIEDMAN: Hey, take it easy.
HERMAN: They don't care about reality. They're devoid of reality here.
FRIEDMAN: Take it easy.
HERMAN: They're letting a bunch of ancient, dinosaur old men on Viagra dictate what a woman can do with her life.
FRIEDMAN: Oh, man.
HERMAN: This is completely absurd what's going on.
FRIEDMAN: No, that's irresponsible.
HERMAN: They have to drop these charges immediately and wake up to reality and to the legal system because it's outrageous, Fred. It's not just like --
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FRIEDMAN: That broad brush is way out of line.
HERMAN: In 18 years with you, Fred, this is the most outrageous case we've ever done. It's insane.
WHITFIELD: Avery, you get the last word on this.
FRIEDMAN: Look, that broad brush is way out of line. That's not legal analysis. The fact is --
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HERMAN: No, it's right on line.
FRIEDMAN: Let me finish my thought.
Whatever law was enacted --
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HERMAN: Thirty-eight states have this law.
FRIEDMAN: They may be wrong -- they may be wrong but the fact is, until such time as a court holds it unconstitutional, it is constitutional. That's what the battle is here. I think it's going to be held unconstitutional. It's over anyhow. It's over.
[13:40:10] WHITFIELD: And in 18 years, you two always enlighten us and help us better understand these cases that are so ever complicated.
FRIEDMAN: And sometimes we agree --
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HERMAN: It's because of you, Fred. It's because of you.
FRIEDMAN: That's right.
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WHITFIELD: No, it's because of you!
(LAUGHTER)
But I am happy that we are always together.
Avery, Richard, always, thank you so much.
FRIEDMAN: Yes, all the best. Take care.
WHITFIELD: Appreciate it.
HERMAN: Take care.
WHITFIELD: Still ahead, when the spotlight shined brightest, the U.S. showed up in a very big way. Look at that. A winning will over France at the women's World Cup.
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WHITFIELD: Welcome back.
The United States women's soccer team knocks out the host nation, France, in a 2-1 victory and is headed to the World Cup semifinals now.
The spotlight mostly fell on star player, Megan Rapinoe, who has been all over the headlines this week following a back and forth with the president over whether or not she would visit the White House if the U.S. wins the World Cup.
[13:45:04] Rapinoe scored both the goals in last night's match and was instrumental in the team's success.
Amanda Davies joining us from Paris.
Amanda, with so much focus on Megan Rapinoe, do you think she lived up to the pressure? She really exceeded it. But it looks like she works even better under pressure.
AMANDA DAVIES, CNN WORLD SPORTS ANCHOR: Yes, Frederica. Boy, did she live up to expectation. It almost seems like it was written in the stars after all those headlines that she'd made in the run-up to the game. As you said, her verbal sparring with President Trump about a prospective visit to the White House. It was only ever going to be Megan Rapinoe who stars on the pitch last
night.
And Coach Jill Ellis said we really shouldn't be surprised. It's these moments that Megan Rapinoe has consistently shown through her career that she thrives on.
She has always talked about how she wants to use the platform of what she does on the pitch to highlight the causes, the political causes, the social causes that she's so passionate about off it.
And really, she stepped up and put in the performance last night. But she's done that consistently. She's a player who made her debut for the U.S. women's team 13 years ago. She helped them to Olympic gold in 2012 in London, World Cup success four years ago in Canada, and now is having the World Cup of her life, five goals in four games so far.
She said she was under no doubt that everything around her was going to distract or not distract her in the game yesterday.
And you feel as the tournament goes on, this platform, this stage of hers is just going to get even bigger.
WHITFIELD: OK. And then, up next, right, against England?
DAVIES: Yes. And I'm afraid this is where my loyalties come to the fore, very much.
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DAVIES: USA against England, USA against England on Tuesday night.
Interestingly, I was messaging with the England coach, Phil Neville. He said he really wants his side to face the USA, the defending champions, the top-ranked team in the world, because he feels that England step up and play better and bigger the better their opponent.
On paper, though, you have to say it's the U.S. who are the favorites. They have their World Cup pedigree. But England are threatening a shock.
We're going to Lyon tomorrow to speak to both sides. Hopefully, we'll have a little more insight as to how it's shaping up tomorrow.
WHITFIELD: It's going to be a nail biter.
All right, Amanda, thank you so much, in Paris.
Cities around the world are holding events to mark PRIDE weekend. Coming up, how one night 50 years ago helped spark a revolution and bring the fight for gay rights to the forefront.
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[13:51:59] WHITFIELD: This weekend marks 50 years since police raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City, touching off days of riots that are widely credited as the start of the modern gay rights movement.
It happened in the early morning hours of June 28th, 1969. Patrons were inside the Stonewall Inn, drinking and dancing, when police, enforcing anti-gay laws, burst in, as they had done many times before. But this time, something changed. The patrons, tired of being harassed, fought back. What followed were six days of protects.
This weekend, the Stonewall Inn serves as one of the main focal points for PRIDE celebrations in the city.
Lady Gaga was there yesterday and delivered an emotional speech encouraging attendees to celebrate and to be proud of who they are.
I'm joined now by Sarah Kate Ellis, the president of GLAAD, an organization that works to promote acceptance of the LGBTQ community.
Good to have you, Sarah Kate.
SARAH KATE ELLIS, CEO & PRESIDENT, GLAAD: Thanks for having me.
WHITFIELD: You're there in New York City. You were at the Stonewall Inn event yesterday, saw, sought concert unfold, Lady Gaga, Alicia Keys. Describe for me what it was like, what was the mood like, what were people saying, thinking, and feeling.
ELLIS: I have to say it's electric here in New York City this weekend. Yesterday was phenomenal.
For a community that has lived in the shadows and been demonized for centuries, to see the amount of celebration and recognition has been simply breathtaking at this moment in time.
WHITFIELD: So it's mostly celebratory, but in, no way, shape, or form, is there a feeling of this is it, that all the goals have been met. So how do you hope this is also serving as a reminder of what still needs to be reached and obtained?
ELLIS: Yes, I think this is a great moment to pause and celebrate those who have gotten us here in the past 50 years, and really to take a look forward.
There's so much that we still have to achieve. We can still be fired in over half the states in the United States from our jobs. We can be denied housing. We can be denied services. We can be put through conversion therapy as minors. We can still -- in 10 states, loving couples can be denied adoption. There's a lot to go.
Also we're seeing a steep rise in hate crimes against our community. The FBI reported a 17 percent increase in hate crimes year over year. New York City police reported, the first four months of this year, a 45 percent increase against people because of their sexual orientation.
And we just released a poll at GLAAD, called Accelerating Acceptance, that looks at acceptance in America and we've seen a rollback with our young Americans. And we attribute that to the current administration that we're living under and the hate and the rhetoric and the rollbacks that we're seeing under this administration.
[13:55:04,] WHITFIELD: And before, when you talked about the hate crimes, you were talking about the legislation, or lack thereof. During the campaign, the president did -- or the last campaign, really, 2016, the president sought to cast himself as an ally of the LGBTQ community.
Do you feel like, under this administration, there has been progress? Are you still in anticipation of work to be accomplished under this administration?
ELLIS: I think there has been progress, despite this administration. We keep track of it at GLAAD. There have been 114 attacks by this administration on the LGBTQ community. That includes policy rollbacks and rhetoric coming out of this administration.
Despite that, we have been able to get the Equality Act through the House of Representatives, which protects the LGBTQ community. But it is stalled in the Senate.
We've also seen corporations and we've seen content creators, especially out of Hollywood, step up and tell our stories and humanize the LGBTQ community because they realize that we have a lack of leadership and that we are under attack.
WHITFIELD: Sarah Kate Ellis, of GLAAD, thank you so much.
ELLIS: Thank you.
Still ahead, President Trump is hoping for a meeting with North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. But will the dictator actually show up? And can the president of the United States get a deal out of him? We're live, next.
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