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[16:00:26] ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST: You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Ana Cabrera in New York. Thanks for being here.
President Trump hoping to add to his already history making relationship with North Korea. That would happen if North Korean leader Kim Jong-un accepts Trump's invitation to show up, shake hands and in his words say hello when the President visits the Korean demilitarized zone, the DMZ, just hours from now. There's no word yet from North Korea on whether Kim is going to show up. But officials there do say they got the invitation and that it is a quote "very interesting discussion."
President Trump told reporters earlier that he would not mind making history on the DMZ for another reason.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you met Kim Jong-un at the DMZ tomorrow, would you step across the border into North Korea?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sure, I would. I would feel very comfortable doing that. I would have no problem.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: CNN's Abby Phillip is in Seoul, South Korea.
Abby, this is either going to be a standard DMZ visit that almost every president has done since the early 80s or it will be a shocking image for the ages. When do you expect to you know which it will be?
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, it will be fairly soon. Probably about 12 hours - a little les 12 hours from now. But you know, President Trump is never want to leave people without a sense of suspense. And that is exactly what he created here.
This could have been basically a run of the mill Presidential visit to the DMZ. Virtually every president has done it. Even though it is not entirely common, they don't do it all the time. It is not that rare for Presidents to go to the DMZ to visit the troops who are there. But President Trump has made this a whole new thing, potentially an opportunity for him to restart a conversation with North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un.
And President Trump's announcement of this on twitter is another part of the drama. We are learning from sources that even people who were tasked with organizing the DMZ visit learned about the President as plan to invite Kim to the DMZ for a handshake meeting on twitter when the President tweeted it.
So again, not unusual for President Trump to create this environment, but it also has created some new challenges, a security challenges to say the least. But also there is a big question, what happens if Kim doesn't show up? Here is what President Trump respondent to that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You made this very public invitation to Kim Jong- un.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would it be a bad sign if he doesn't show up?
TRUMP: No. Of course, I thought of that because I know if he didn't everybody he is going to say he was stood up by Chairman Kim. I understood that. We get along. There's been no nuclear tests. There's been no long-range ballistic tests. Gave us back our hostages which was great. And a lot of good things are happening over there. So I let him know we'll be there and we will see. I mean, I can't tell you exactly, but they did respond favorably.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PHILLIP: President Trump there both upping the pressure on Kim by making THIS a very public invitation that would be in some ways hard for him to turn down, but lowering expectation. Saying even if Kim doesn't show up, everything is going to be fine. The relationship still is on track.
But the reality is, Ana, the reason this meeting and this invitation is happening is because the relationship is not on track. President Trump and Kim really haven't had much engagement beyond a couple of letters exchange in the recent weeks. And there has been no talk of denuclearization on this peninsula. So this is a virtual Hail Mary for President Trump to get Kim back to the table perhaps just with a look in the eye or handshake and pretty much no agenda. There is not really going to be much time for there to be substance coming out of this meeting, Ana.
CABRERA: OK. Abby Phillip, thank you for letting us know what can we expect.
Not for the first time. Twitter is offering an interesting window into the mind of the President Trump. We know for instance, he was paying close attention into the Democratic debates. That's when he wasn't using his social media account to conduct foreign policy.
Joining us now with more is CNN Analyst and Politics Editor for "The New York Times" Patrick Healy and CNN Political Analyst, Sarah Isgur.
Sarah, let's start with the fact that many members of Trump's owned team didn't know about his plan to possibly meet up with Kim Jong-un until they saw the President's tweet today. Why do it this way? Does the President even care about the rest of his team? And is this the best way to conduct American foreign policy?
SARAH ISGUR, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I think there is two factors to that. One, politically, we have seen the President does very well being surprising, being last minute. You know, we were comparing debate numbers, the Democratic debate and the Republican debates in 2015 at this time. And he obviously drew more people because he is spontaneous.
On the other side, I think we have also seen that they had major national security leaks from within the White House. So I'm not surprised that he now likes to play things closer to the vest.
[16:05:25] CABRERA: Patrick, one-on-one relationships with world leaders we know are important to this President. I want to take a look at this picture. This is from the G-20 family photo of sorts. We have that guys? There you see other leaders all looking at the camera waving. Literally, all other leaders in that picture even to take it while but there you see front and center. Trump and Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman having this own moment of their own. If a picture is worth a thousand words, Patrick, what does that image tell you?
PATRICK HEALY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: It is the Saudi relationship that President Trump cares about enormously, you know. He has been willing to alienate the traditional historic allies of United States -- Germany, Britain, France, Canada, Mexico so repeatedly and yet, he is willing to reach out and create this kind of orbit of two with people like MBS of Saudi Arabia or Kim Jong-un of North Korea. Vladimir Putin, of course, the most in Russia.
It is - I think history will look back at it as the strangest aspect of the Trump presidency. This willingness to bring in dictators, bring in people who have been implicated in the case of MBS in the murder of Saudi journalist living in the United States and being willing to sort of brush aside issues like Russian interference in the American election of 2016 and joking about it.
You know, President Trump gets the props from the corners about being, you know, surprising on twitter or keeping everyone guessing. But it is -- the reality is the long-term relationships that the United States has aren't just taken for granted by a lot of the diplomats and citizens who worked on those. They can be rocked by a President of the United States. And you are seeing, you know, in this relationships and now with North Korea the question of what is he thinking? What is the larger plan? CABRERA: What is the end game?
HEALY: And what is the end game? Is it just superficial developments like not having, you know, in terms of keeping testing at a limit.
CABRERA: While he is overseas, we know the President has had a divided attention. Obviously he was paying attention to the first Democratic debates this week. He tweeted boring. He was watching the second debate. We know because he offered this critique about the moment when Harris confronted Biden about the anti-bussing record. Watch.
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TRUMP: I thought that she was given too much credit. He didn't do well, certainly. And maybe the facts weren't necessarily on his side. I think she was given too much credit for what she did. It wasn't that outstanding. And I think probably he was hit harder than he should have been hit. I thought he was actually hit harder.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: Hit harder than he should have been hit.
Sarah, the President is now defending Biden?
ISGUR: Well, it is fascinating about that, of course, is that the Democrats are still in a primary. Obviously. And so, you know, we all know that this is a metaphor to be use now in regular life. Primary versus the general.
Donald Trump gets to skip the primary. Because of that he is reaching those middle voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. They by and large are not going to have the same opinion of bussing as the progressive left of the Democratic Party. So in some ways it is a smart take to have. Unfortunately for Joe Biden he is still going to be in that primary for some time to come and the Democrats are deciding who they are as a party. But I thought he was doing more being a pundit. He was speaking to some of those voters that he is going to need in a year and a half.
CABRERA: Sarah, Joe Biden's team says he knows he has to do better. How you help him prep for the next debate?
ISGUR: It almost looks that they prepped him wrong. But I would tell them to do is whatever you did last time, it did not work for your candidate. It may have been the most genius way to prepare in theory ever, but you also have to react to your principal works with.
I, for instance, have had to, you know, throw out debate prep for different candidates. And it is what they work well with. You know, if it means having to actually make them answer the question in a live rehearsal, a lot of candidates don't enjoy that. It puts them on the spot. It makes them, you know, practice is not much fun if you are not good at it. And so, if that is something they were having trouble with the vice
President as doing really live runs, clearly they now have the ammunition to say, sir, last time did not work. We are going to have to try some ways to do this.
[16:10:05] CABRERA: Bigger picture, Patrick. How much do you think this first round of debate impacts the race?
HEALY: It matters when we saw today Kamala Harris announcing that she raised $2 million in just 24 hours after the debate. She brought in 60,000 donors who have never or smaller number than that. But a large number of people who never donated to her campaign before. So it definitely creates visibility for some candidates.
As much as we are writing and covering this election, a lot of voters were just sort of tuning in the other nights. They are going to be watching the CNN debates in July. They are still learning who Kamala Harris is, you know, who Cory Booker is. A lot of candidates still unknown. So they do matter as introduction.
They also matter because Joe Biden is remembered as a very loyal vice President to Barack Obama. But he hasn't been on the stage for about three years. And so people tuning in who are seeing that diversity in terms of age, gender, race on stage and they see Joe Biden there. They may like what he says, but they will certainly will have Democrats saying is he the right person for the moment. Is he reflecting the party where it is now? So in those ways, sure, it does matter.
CABRERA: I mean, both front runners, really. Biden and Sanders were criticized for their debate performance.
Sarah, which candidates benefit the most?
ISGUR: I actually completely agree with everything you said. And I think even at a more basic level, name I.D. Joe Biden with near universal name I.D. every debate in some sense is going to hurt him because it is going to allow those other 19, maybe we will set Sanders aside, 18 candidates to build up their name ID simply by being on that stage. The more that name I.D. delta narrows for Joe Biden, the worse it is.
So I think everyone, all other 18 or so, have a lot to benefit from. Clearly, Harris perhaps benefitted the most this time. But you saw several other who actually did very well and have people talk about them. Just take Marianne Williamson for a second. We all sort of have been talking about her in the conversation a way that absolutely was not the case 72 hours ago. So you never know who is going to benefit. But again, I would say at this point early on, name I.D. is a lot of the problem that 18 candidates have.
CABRERA: Sarah Isgur and Patrick Healy, thank you both.
Fresh off the debate stage. We are talking to several presidential candidates. Congressman Tim Ryan will join us next. Would he shake hands with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un at the DMZ? And U.S. women's soccer team star Meghan Rapinoe escalating her feud
with Donald Trump will also leading the team to a world cup semi- finals. Where she is opting to go instead of the White House if the team goes all the way.
You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM.
[16:16:25] CABRERA: We could witness an historic moment overnight. President Trump will travel to the DMZ, the Demilitarized Zone that separates North and South Korea. He has invited Kim Jong-un to meet him there. He says if offered, he would cross the border and step to North Korea, something no other sitting U.S. president has done before.
I want to bring in Democratic presidential hopeful, Congressman Tim Ryan from Ohio.
Congressman, good to have you with us.
REP. TIM RYAN (D-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hi. Thanks for having me.
CABRERA: If elected President, you want to decide which relationship you want to have with Kim Jong-un. I'm sure you disagree with the President's style and diplomacy over twitter and just praise of a dictator. But, is America is safer because of President Trump's decision to engage to engage Kim Jong-un directly?
RYAN: I don't think so. I think a lot of this stuff needs to be handled at lower levels and then the President comes in to seal the deal. And I just think it isn't getting us anywhere. What it does is it gets the President on TV. That is what he wants. He is running the apprenticeship program out of the oval office. And I just think he wants to get TV ratings and get attention to himself. He is very, very good at that. I don't think there is anybody better. But it is not good for our foreign policy at all.
CABRERA: Would you shake hands with Kim Jong-un at the DMZ?
RYAN: I would not. Not until we had some deal or we are at least very, very close to having some deal. I mean, what is the deal? Like where are we? Does anyone have any clue what we are talking about now?
You know, we have so many positions in the state department that need filled and so many positions with the government that need filled. Ambassadorships that need filled. We got migration crisis coming from Central America.
If you want to go anywhere, he should go down there. But he does everything based on TV ratings. What is scintillating. And the border crisis is scintillating. Him going to the DMZ is scintillating. That's all he does. But we are not getting anywhere. And that's the problem. And every time he does this, it is distracting from the problem in the
United States which how are we going to get this economy going for the 75 percent of the American people that are living paycheck to paycheck. We can't do that if we are distracted.
CABRERA: I hear what you are saying. But if you are President, you do have to deal with foreign policy. What would your foreign policy plan be?
RYAN: Well, again, we don't want distractions. And you take the drone that got shot down in the Gulf, in the Persian Gulf. That is because we disengaged from Iran. And so, all of a sudden, we have an issue. Now all of a sudden, we have to Marshall resources. Now all of a sudden, and the President is distracted.
What I am saying is there is enough chaos in the world. Let's try to solve it the best we can or re-stabilize it and then focus on what is happening in the United States. It is not good here. It is what I am trying to say in the debate the other day. We have to focus on the American economy. We have to focus on rebuilding the middle class. And the more the President does things like this just to get TV ratings and eyeballs on of TVs, it comes against -- it cuts against what our real plan should be and that is rebuilding the middle class here in the United States.
CABRERA: You have said your concern, Democrats are not connecting with working class voters. I want you to take a look at the New York Post cover from the second night of the debate.
It reads who wants to lose and shows candidates raising their hands. And they were, of course, raising their hands when asked a different question if they would support healthcare for undocumented immigrants. Admittedly, this was on night two. You took part in the first debate by in the state like the one you represent, Ohio. So critical to winning any election. Do you worry these moments are the type that signal your party is not focused on the working class?
[16:20:11] RYAN: No. I mean, you know, talking about taking people's private health insurance away is not a good way to connect to people who maybe the only real benefit they have is private health insurance.
Talking about, you know, these other issues. We have to talk about wages. We have to talk about pensions. We have to talk about opportunity. I mean, if you have a good job today in the United States, you are still insecure about it because of what is going on with trade, because of what is going on with globalization and automation. And the federal government needs to have aggressive response that says we will rebuild the middle class.
This is what I want to do. I want to start and have a real economic policy that is going to be inclusive of everybody regardless of the region. I mean, look, it is happening all over the country. There is factory workers in my district that lost their general motors jobs. There is a tent city in L.A. There's people in the fishing industry on the coast. There's waitresses affected by the ripple effect. We have to focus on rebuilding and that's what I want to do. That
will be my sole focus, how to rebuild the middle class. If you are interested, if that's what people want, go to TimRyanforAmerica.com and help me build this campaign out.
And I will tell you, I didn't get a lot of time the other night, but we moved the needle. "The Washington Post" power rankings moved us up two points. Only Kamala Harris moved more than I did after the debate because when I talked about the economic message it moves voters and we are starting to get some real traction.
CABRERA: And I want to give you an opportunity to get more specific. Because you talk about helping the middle class. Let's talk about health care and the issue. The other question that was asked of the debate candidates at the night two which we just posed up there. I'll ask you. You didn't get to answer this question. Do you support healthcare for undocumented immigrants?
RYAN: I support -- they should be taken care of for sure. I mean, these are kids that go to school with our kids. So we have to make sure if you are here in the country that you have some basic level of care because you are interacting within our society. The kids are going to schools with kids who may have health insurance. And if they don't have any, that is not good for anybody. I don't want to make a long-term issue of all this, but we need to take care of people while they are here which we are saying this is exactly why we need comprehensive and immigration reform. Get these folks out of the shadows and get them into the system and start bring about some stability to our immigration policies in the United States.
CABRERA: So just clarify, yes or no? You would provide healthcare coverage insurance or Medicare for all or whatever the plan is specifically in order to cover undocumented immigrants as well?
RYAN: They should have some healthcare whether it is part of a broader system or not.
CABRERA: They get health care if they show up at the emergency room, obviously. I mean, that happens in today's reality. But do they get insurance coverage under Tim Ryan as president?
RYAN: They should have something that looks like preventative care to go see a doctor. As I said if it is part of a broader system or not, we can have that discussion. But they should have health care. They are human beings. They are here. Their kids are going to school with our kids.
CABRERA: So would you have raised your hand when asked the question? Would you raised your hands?
RYAN: Yes. Should they have some healthcare? Absolutely. I mean, look, come on, these are kids in our country. We want to take care of them. I mean, the problem is the political system is broken and the President wants a broken system so he can campaign on this issue.
We need to say look. We are going to fix this so we can get to the business of fixing the economy for everybody. -- white, black, brown, gay, straight. All of the people who take a shower after work and working their rear ends off and have two or three jobs and living paycheck to paycheck. We have to stop the distraction. Fix these problems and that's what I want to do is fix it.
CABRERA: There was a moment between you and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard over 9/11. I want to play that moment for our viewers. It starts with you talking about the need of a U.S. president and Afghanistan to keep a check on the Taliban.
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RYAN: When we went in there, they started flying planes into our buildings. So I'm just saying right now --
REP. TULSI GABBARD (D-HI), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11. That's why I and so many other people joined the military to go after Al-Qaeda, not the Taliban.
RYAN: The Taliban was protecting those people who are plotting against us.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: Just wanted to give you a chance to clarify. Did you make a mistake there?
RYAN: No. No, not at all. The Taliban was housing Al-Qaeda. That's where Osama bin Laden was. That is where they organized the attack against the United States. And look, I was against the war in Iraq. Had been during my first congressional election. I have not been for expanding. I think we should try to reduce to the extent we can our troop presence. But you cannot leave large swaths of land open to terrorists plotting to do harm against the United States.
And again, it needs to be a multilateral approach. But I have been on the defense committee for 12 years. I know who the Taliban is and I know who Al-Qaeda is. I know more about what is happening in the Middle East than I wish I did. But the reality is the Taliban houses people and as they move into power, they will have the ability to protect these terrorist organizations like Al-Qaeda to potentially do something else. And I think if you are the president of the United States, you have the responsibility to secure the country. And unfortunately that happens. But we can reduce. But my point was you can't just leave. You have to have a level of engagement and the best we can do in the multilateral way, the better which is why you got to have a lot of friends. Which is why President Trump is not the guy to do it. Because he is not making friends around the world. And it puts more the burden on the United States. N
[16:26:06] CABRERA: OK. Congressman Tim Ryan, I appreciate you taking the time. We hope you will come back and share more of your positions and your vision for America. Thanks for being here.
RYAN: Yes. Timryanforamerica.com if anybody wants to help out. Thanks so much for having me. CABRERA: Thank you.
Just in, a "New York Times" is reporting, a trump consultant is now running a Joe Biden web site. And the thing is it is not a Biden web site. It's a fake. Details next.
You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM.
[16:30:12] ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: Tens of millions of people across the nation watched the first 2020 debates. Now the ratings are in and are higher than expected.
Joining us now is Brian Stelter, CNN chief media correspondent and anchor of CNN's "RELIABLE SOURCES."
Brian, how big were the ratings? How do they compare to past debates?
BRIAN STELTER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, 15 million viewers for the first debate on Wednesday night and 18 million viewers for the second debate on Thursday night. That has to do with the fact that the higher polling candidates were on night two. Both these debates were much higher rated than television executives expected or Democratic officials expected.
Typically, you have a debate, back in the 2004 and 2008, maybe five or 10 million viewers if the network is lucky. In this case, 15 million and 18 million viewers. Off the charts for the Democrats. It was the highest rated Democratic debate ever.
There's one metric where the Republicans are still ahead. The highest-ranking primary debate ever, President Trump's first debate in 2015 when he was still new to the Republican presidential scene. That debate on FOX had 24 million viewers. Democrats are not beating that.
It is significant to see so many millions tuned in for two nights of debates. It speaks to the enormous interest in this primary and the enormous desire by Democrats to beat Donald Trump.
CABRERA: I'm sure you were keeping an eye on social media during the debates. Who were the candidates talked about the most and what do the reactions on social media tell you?
STELTER: Kamala Harris is head and shoulders above the others in terms of the volumes of tweets, about candidates and the number and Google searches. A lot of searches for Marianne Williamson's name during the debate on Thursday night, because people were not familiar with her and trying to find out about her for the first time. That is the benefit early on in the cycle.
After the debate, if you compare, it was all Kamala Harris. Google searches across the country for Kamala Harris. It speaks to her breakout performance. It may explain why her campaign says it has a surge in donations. You watch the debate, then decide who to support and send money to. Some of that is happening. CABRERA: We have new reporting this afternoon. The "New York Times"
reported a consultant who makes content for Trump's reelection campaign is also trolling Democrats with a fake Joe Biden Web site that is designed to look like Biden's official campaign page. But it is a Web site that mocks the former vice president.
Instead, GOP consultant, Patrick Mauldin, told "The Times" he alone paid for the fake Biden Web site, not the Trump campaign.
Brian, what do you see is the difference between this and the disinformation campaign the Russians ran in 2016?
STELTER: The only big difference is it is an American doing it and not a foreign actor. It's not a foreign propaganda campaign. It is somebody right inside the U.S. doing it. We have seen a lot of this.
It is important to recognize, heading into a long election cycle, it is not just foreign actors or foreign meddlers that try to disrupt elections.
There are folks, on both the right and left, by the way, that engage in this trickery and trolling.
Now sometimes the excuse is made it is a joke or prank, it is trolling, not harmful. Ultimately, when voters are more confused and less informed, that is a bad thing, regardless of the motivations.
We saw it during some of the special elections in the last couple of years, in Alabama, for example, trying to set up Web sites to confuse people, Twitter sites to confuse people. Often times, it is U.S. citizens, Americans doing it. It is important to recognize that going forward.
Bottom line, it is true, Ana, if it is too good to be true, it probably is. If you are on a Web site and it doesn't seem like it is all there and fishy, it probably is.
In this case, it was uncovered by Matthew Rosenberg, of the "New York Times." I'm glad he did. He didn't link to it. That is the problem. When news outlets link it, it is giving it attention.
STELTER: So it's important to be careful when dealing with the misinformation, even if it just going to be a prank. In this case, I'm not sure it was a prank.
CABRERA: It is a good reminder to us and viewers that you have to vet the information that comes across. Don't believe everything you are reading on first glance.
Thank you so much, Brian --
STELTER: Yes. Thank you.
CABRERA: -- as always. Don't forget to watch "RELIABILE SOURCES" with Brian Stelter, tomorrow
morning at 11:00 Eastern.
[16:34:32] Coming up, President Trump turns a coordinated cyberattack on the United States into a punch line with Putin as one former president suggests that Trump's 2016 win was illegitimate.
CABRERA: President Trump brushing off accusations he is too cozy with dictators and autocrats and other world leaders accused of strongarm policies. He said, quote, "he got along" with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman and Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom he shared an impromptu joke with on Friday.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFED REPORTER: Will you tell Russia not to meddle in the 2020 election?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes, of course I will.
Don't meddle in the election, please. Don't -- don't meddle in the election.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: Earlier, I spoke with CNN's Fareed Zakaria, host of "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS," and got his reaction to that moment.
FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN ANCHOR: The sad thing is what President Trump did was entirely predictable. He just can't get over the idea that any kind of serious conversation about this and any serious push back seems to legitimize the view that the Russians helped him get elected. Which they did. That part of the Mueller report is clear.
You know, what is not clear is whether there was collusion on the Trump campaign's part.
But the Russians tried to have Donald Trump get elected is absolutely plain.
CABRERA: Related to this issue of Russian election interference, I want to remind our viewers that last week Trump said there were a couple of former presidents, two, that he talks with, George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter. For example, we know President Trump called Jimmy Carter in April to discuss U.S. and China trade talks.
Listen to what President Carter said Friday.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's no doubt the Russians did interfere in the election. I think the interference, although not yet quantified, in the investigation that showed Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and he was put into office because of the Russian's interference on his behalf.
[16:40:07] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So do you feel President Trump is an illegitimate president?
CARTER: Based on what I said, which I can't retract.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: Fareed, a former U.S. president questioning the legitimacy of the sitting president in public. How significant is this?
ZAKARIA: It is significant in it reminds us of the point I was just making. No doubt the Russian government tried to help elect Donald Trump. Whether they succeeded, I'm not sure I would go as far as President Carter that, without that Russian help, he would not have been elected. We don't know.
We know the Russians intended to and they made efforts. Whether the efforts made the difference versus other factors, who knows.
You know, this is partly why I think Trump is so sensitive on the issue and can't seem to desegregate that from what should be a core issue of defending the national interests of the United States.
The United States government should be determined to make sure a foreign government doesn't interfere with the electoral process of the United States, any of our Western allies. That piece of, I wish President Trump could separate that from his ego.
CABRERA: I want your take on a 2020 presidential debate moment when the candidates were asked, what do you see as important early steps in reversing the damage done to the U.S. reputation abroad. Listen to their answers.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We've got to restore the relationships that he's destroyed with our allies.
UNIDENTIFIED DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: One of my first phone calls is to call the European leaders and say we're back.
UNIDENTIFIED DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We have no idea which of our most important allies he will have pissed off worse between now and then.
What we know it is that our relationship with the entire world needs to change.
JOE BIDEN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES & DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We know NATO will fall apart if he's elected for four more years. It's the single most consequence alliance in the history of the United States.
KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA): All the members of the NATO alliance.
REP. ERIC SWALWELL (D-CA): The first act in foreign policy, we're breaking up with Russia and making up with NATO.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CABRERA: Fareed, are current U.S. relations with key allies that bad?
ZAKARIA: It's bad at two levels that it is important to understand. One is it's bad at the level of governance. That can be fixed. New government in the United States, new people in Washington can reach out.
What is more damaging is that in the public opinion, the image of America and the image of the president have cratered.
If you look at France or Germany, and you ask people in the last year of the Obama presidency in Germany or France, do you trust the American president, and 80 percent of French and German people said they trust the American president. That number is now in single digits in France and Germany. And 8 percent or 9 percent say they trust the U.S. president.
How do you change that?
CABRERA: Fareed Zakaria, always so good to get your take. Thank you.
CABRERA: Cities around the world are holding events to mark PRIDE week. Coming up, now one night 50 years ago helped sparked a revolution and bring the fight for gay rights to the forefront.
You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM.
[16:47:11] New York celebrates World PRIDE 2019 this weekend. Lady Gaga got the celebration started yesterday. This year marks the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall uprising, the protest at the gay bar in New York that became a major catalyst for the gay rights movement.
CNN's Polo Sandoval recounts what that day was like for people who were there 50 years ago.
POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At New York City's monumental Stonewall Inn are those who come to pay homage
JOSEPH NEGRELLI, RETURNS TO STONEWALL INN: I'm ready. I'm ready.
SANDOVAL: -- and those who come to remember what they lived through back in the summer of '69.
NEGRELLI: Nothing was really different that night except that people decided to fight back.
SANDOVAL: As New Yorker Joseph Negrelli remembers it, NYPD barged in as he sipped a drink inside the Stonewall. Before that night, this tiny Greenwich Village bar was known mostly as a place for LGBT men and women to be themselves.
For many, sharing in the relative safety of the place came with a price. They were subjected to frequent police raids, described by New York's police commissioner five decades later as discriminatory and oppressive.
NEGRELLI: If you were feminine or you were dress nonconforming to your sexuality at birth, you were arrested and tried to be humiliated. That is what was happening that night.
SANDOVAL: The night of June 28th, 1969, the bar's patrons revolted and fought back, refusing to comply with officers.
NEGRELLI: Someone threw a bottle from Sheraton Square Park into Christopher Street.
SANDOVAL: That was the start of the night that would galvanize the modern-day LGBTQ civil rights movement.
NEGRELLI: That is when 75 people moved forward and blocked police. They got a big surprise that night. I was surprised. Immediately what happened was that they started to call for groups of homosexuals to come together.
SANDOVAL: Eventually, the call spread around the country and world.
NEGRELLI: The civil rights movement and women's movement galvanized together. But it was the transvestites and minorities that were the forefront runners of the Stonewall riot.
SANDOVAL: Five decades later, many of the voices that refused to be silenced returned to where it started.
For Servias Santiago (ph), it had been 50 years since she set foot at the Stonewall.
SERVIAS SANTIAGO (ph), RETURNS TO STONEWALL INN: I thought I would never been here again. A lot of abuse here.
SANDOVAL: Santiago is back with her fellow Stonewall elders for the 50th anniversary of the rights. So is Carlos Jay, who participated in subsequent protests at the bar.
[16:50:05] CARLOS JAY, RETURNED TO STONEWALL INN: In 1970, we thought it would be wonderful to hold hands in the street. We never dreamed we would be able to get married. It is an incredible advancement. We need to embrace all individuals, particularly our most disadvantaged.
SANDOVAL: The activists says more needs to be done for homeless LGBTQ youth and transgender women of color.
JAY: We used to say none of us is free until all of us are free.
SANDOVAL: Polo Sandoval, CNN, New York.
CABRERA: The U.S. women's soccer team's star player, Megan Rapinoe, refusing to go to the White House if the team wins the World Cup. The Washington, D.C., invitation she is accepting instead.
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CABRERA: The United States women's soccer team advances to the semifinals after knocking out France in the 2-1 victory. This win came in large part to star, Megan Rapinoe, who scored both of the team's goals.
Rapinoe was in the headlines after a back and forth with Donald Trump over whether she would visit the White House if the U.S. wins the World Cup.
But now she and the team have a new invitation post World Cup run, to the House of Representatives.
Freshman Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted after the match, "It may not be the White House, but we'd be happy to welcome Megan Rapinoe and the women's national team." Rapinoe responded, saying, "Consider it done."
[16:55:11] Is there anyone "Saturday Night Live" star, Kate McKinnon, can't impersonate? She does a perfect Hillary Clinton, Jeff Sessions, even Justin Bieber. Now we can add self-help guru and spiritual author and Democratic president candidate, Marianne Williamson, to McKinnon's repertoire. Take a look.
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MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, SELF-HELP GURU & AUTHOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's really nice that you've got all of these plans. But if you think we are going to beat President Trump by just having all these plans, you have another think coming. Because he didn't win by saying he had plans. KATE MCKINNON, COMEDIAN: I heard a lot of plans. If you think plans
are going to be beat President Trump, you have another think coming. My plan is to gather all of the sage in America and burn it.
My plan is to harness the energy of babies to finally put a man on the moon.
WILLIAMSON: My first call is to the prime minister of New Zealand, who said that her goal is to make New Zealand the place where it is the best place in the world for a child to grow up. I would tell her, Girlfriend, you are so on.
MCKINNON: And I said to the president of New Zealand, I said, Girlfriend, you are so on.
And I would say to Donald Trump, Boyfriend, you chill. Thank you.
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