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Jimmy Carter Weighs in on the 2016 Election; Handshake at the DMZ; Trump meets with Bin Salman; Trump Defends Biden in Recent Debate; Buttigieg Faces Racial Tensions in Indiana; Medicare For All Top 2020 Debate Topic; Record High Summer Temps in Europe; the U.S. Women's Soccer Team Wins in France; The Yankees and the Red Sox Play in London. Aired 6-7a ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If there's a theme so far to President Trump's G20 visit in Osaka, Japan, it's his sunny relationship with dictators. In the space of a single day, President Trump made light of Russian interference in the 2020 election to Vladimir Putin's face.
JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He lost the election, and he was put into office because the Russians interfered.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you on behalf of a lot of people, and I want to congratulate you. You've done really a spectacular job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Praised the Saudi prince who many believed was involved in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The murder of Jamal Khashoggi, sir, the Crown Prince?
TRUMP: Thank you so much...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And tweeted hopefully about seeing Kim Jong-un again if only just to shake his hand. If only.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you do meet Kim Jong-un at the DMZ tomorrow, would you step across the border into North Korea?
TRUMP: Sure. I would. I would. I would feel very comfortable doing that.
ANNOUNCER: This is "New Day Weekend" with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN HOST: Good Saturday morning to you. There's a lot going on. We're starting with President Trump now on the way to South Korea and what could be an historic meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN HOST: The president tweeted an invitation to meet Kim Jong-un at the DMZ for a handshake.
PAUL: Or maybe more. He says he would now consider, think about this, he would consider stepping across the border into North Korea. That's something no other president has ever done.
BLACKWELL: Now, there's a lot more coming out of this hour 14-minute news conference from the president. President Trump said trade talks are back on with China with new tariffs on hold. Now he pushed back on the idea that he was joking about election meddling with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and he said the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi made him angry, while defending his relationship with the man the CIA says ordered that murder. Joining us now live from Seoul, South Korea, CNN White House Correspondent Abby Phillip. Abby, the president made a lot of news, but there could be this major moment that's coming if Kim Jong-un responds to that tweeted invitation.
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right Victor. A lot of news from President Trump in that press conference but we'll start with that. What could be a historic moment if Kim Jong-un accepts President Trump's invitation to meet him at the DMZ, the Demilitarized Zone which is not far from here in Seoul. And President Trump is also saying that he would be willing to go over into North Korea, step foot on to North Korean soil, and he would feel comfortable doing that. Listen to him talking about what could happen tomorrow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you do meet Kim Jong-un at the DMZ tomorrow, would you step across the border into North Korea?
TRUMP: Sure, I would. I would. I'd feel very comfortable doing that. I would have no problem.
PHILLIP: So while we wait for whether or not that will happen, there are also a number of other pieces of news the president made. And on China, on trade, this is one of the big things that he was trying to accomplish in this meeting. The president had a dinner with China's President Xi Jinping where they were trying to reset this relationship as it relates to trade. The president made some news by saying he is not going to put new tariffs on China, basically calling it a bit of a truce as they try to restart the talks. Listen.
TRUMP: We will be continuing to negotiate, and I promise that -- for at least the time being we're not going to be lifting tariffs on China. We won't be adding an additional, you know, tremendous amounts of -- we have I guess $350 billion left which could be taxed -- could be tariffed and we're not doing that. We're going to work with China on where we left off to see if we can make a deal.
PHILLIP: So this is by no means a breakthrough. But for U.S. markets, for farmers, for other business leaders in the United States, it will be good news that there is not on the horizon $350 billion in tariffs on Chinese goods coming down the pike but it still seems that they are still quite far apart in terms of resolving some of the major issues and coming up with a grand deal that President Trump has been seeking. In the meantime, there was also another piece of news from President Trump as he met with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman yesterday as part of the G20 meetings. He was asked did you raise the death of Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist who was killed in a consulate in Turkey? And President Trump defended his positive relationship with the Saudis and said he did, in fact, raise that issue.
TRUMP: There's a lot of things happening. At the same time I will also say -- and nobody said, nobody so far has pointed directly a finger at the future king of Saudi Arabia.
There are large numbers of people being prosecuted. He's very angry about it; he's very unhappy about it and I did mention it to him very strongly. But they're prosecuting large numbers of people. That was a bad event.
PHILLIP: I have to correct something here that President Trump said. He said no one has pointed the finger at the Crown Prince. That is not true. Quite a few people are saying that something like this could only have happened with his okay, so many of those people who are implicated in that murder are tied to the Crown Prince, as well. But as you can see there, President Trump weighing in on a wide range of issues.
One more thing Victor and Christi, he talked about that democratic debate this past week, especially the one involving former Vice President Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. The president somehow decided to defend Joe Biden in that exchange with Kamala Harris. He said that he didn't think Kamala Harris did as well as everybody thought he did and he also didn't think that Joe Biden did as poorly as everybody thought he did. A little bit of the president putting his finger on the scale there in that race and tweaking the democrats. But I think it's clear that President Trump has been watching that even as he's been overseas dealing with a lot of thorny international issues. Victor and Christi.
PAUL: Yes, very good observation. He actually said I think Biden was hit harder than he should have been hit, as well, adding that. Abby Phillip, we appreciate it so much. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: So President Trump says that he may meet again with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un but it all started with this twitter diplomacy. Here's the tweet from the president -- "I will be leaving Japan for South Korea with President Moon. While there, if Chairman Kim of North Korea sees this, I would meet him at the border, DMZ, just to shake his hand and say hello, question mark, explanation point." Joining me now is CNN Global Affairs Analyst Aaron David Miller, former state department negotiator and CNN Political Commentator, Errol Louis, political anchor for "Spectrum News." Gentlemen welcome both to you.
Errol, let me start with you. The president just asked to meet Kim Jong-un with the casualness that I call my friends or text them when I'm in New York and say, "Hey, let's meet for tacos." Is it plausible to think that that is - what it is - it is what it is on its face that there is no kind of background work to see if there will be this meeting, or the president just tweeted out, "Hey, if you see this, meet me at the DMZ?"
ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well look, some of the reporting suggests that a secret and undisclosed meeting to the DMZ was on the president's itinerary. For him then to go to Twitter and sort of put this out, music to the dictator's ears. Something that this very repressive leader very much wants which is for the president to sort of normalize him and act as if he's somebody that the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, would go out of his way and go up to the border of a repressive regime where there are an estimated 200,000 people in captivity, political prisoners subjected to torture, execution, physical abuse, just to shake the dictator's hands, it's almost unthinkable. But, you know, this is what he said and I imagine this is what he might do.
BLACKWELL: Live pictures on the right of your screen here. This is Air Force One landing in Seoul, South Korea, after about a 90-minute flight after the president's news conference this morning in Osaka. This is going to be, of course, a meeting with Moon Jae-in, President of South Korea and there could be that meeting with Kim Jong-un, as we're discussing.
And Aaron David Miller, let's bring you into the conversation here, if the reporting is accurate that there were these kind of behind-the- scenes negotiations and planning for this meeting at the DMZ, what's the virtue in trying to convince the world that the president just sent out a tweet and say, "Hey, meet me at the DMZ?"
AARON DAVID MILLER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: You know, a lot of this trip is driven by what I call the "summit of the vanities." Clearly with Mr. Putin that's the case. The president thinks of his own persona, his own needs and his own interests first. With Kim I think it's very clear. I think Errol's right, it's a clear victory for Kim Jong-un who has made very little compromise on the nuclear issues or on human rights. But for the president, I think it's even more important because he really believes that Kim, not the Iran agreement and certainly not Vladimir Putin, is his ticket into the history books.
He changed -- fundamentally changed the conversation with respect to North Korea and I think he deserves credit for that. But I think he really does believe by keeping Kim on the string, by flattering him, by stepping into North Korea, that in fact he preserves the option of a credible agreement at some point during the course of his presidency that would clearly by any standard win him, win him the Nobel. It would be quite interesting, as well, if President Trump grabbed President Moon and the three leaders had a trilateral.
Frankly, that would be an American interest because it really is in our interests to foster a much better relationship between these two leaders to obtain security and stability on the Korean Peninsula.
BLACKWELL: Errol, quickly before we move on to China, the significance of the possibility that the president could take that step into North Korea. We saw Kim Jong-un and Moon Jae-in take that step a couple of months ago over the border back and forth into their respective countries. This president says, sure, I'd have no problem with that.
LOUIS: Yes, it was so casual. It was really startling, Victor and you know, look, it would be such a wonderful thing if he could step into North Korea and step back with some of the human rights prisoners that normally one would expect the American president to at least be concerned about or express concern about.
If it improves nuclear diplomacy, you know, all to the better. It's unclear whether or not that's going to happen. Frankly, there's no evidence that that's going to happen.
BLACKWELL: Aaron, let's talk about China now -- this much-anticipated meeting between President Xi of China and President Trump. The president, President Trump says that he's agreed not to increase tariffs on $350 billion of imports from 10 to 25 percent but he also says that Huawei, this Chinese telecom giant, U.S. companies can sell goods to Huawei and he didn't take off the table the potential for taking Huawei off the Commerce Department's entity list -- banned from selling their products in the U.S. Here's what the Commerce Department says about Huawei. Let's put it up. "The U.S. government has determined that there's reasonable cause to believe that Huawei has been involved in activities contrary to the national security or foreign policy interest of the United States." How can he walk back a national security concern in the interest of trade, Aaron?
MILLER: Well how does the president reconcile any of the anomalies and the contradictions that define most of what he does both domestically and politically? I said it earlier, "the summit of the vanities." He thinks primarily about what is good for him at the moment. Most China experts predicted there would be no breakdown and no breakthrough and that's essentially what's happened.
The Huawei thing is clearly a gift to the Chinese and I think the president sees it as kind of dangling an incentive to Xi in the event when talks begin to see if in fact they can reach a deal on trade; again, very much the president's persona, the president's ego and president's interests often put above the national interest. BLACKWELL: Again, on the right side of your screen, this is Air Force
One just landed in Seoul, South Korea. We're waiting for the president to deplane. Of course, we've got that live picture and you'll see that if the president decides to walk over to the cameras, as he often does, we will see that, as well.
Errol, back to you on China. One of the claims the president made today is that the Chinese will start buying tremendous amounts, in his characterization, of agricultural products from U.S. Ffarmers. He says that he's helping the farmers by -- watch this math -- taking $16 billion of the tariffs, which the president argues are paid by China but they are not, they're paid by U.S. Companies and then, in most cases, U.S. Consumers, and then giving that to the farmers in aid. Fact check that for us. The president saying, "I'm taking the tariff money and just handing it to the farmers; everybody is good."
LOUIS: Yes, no, that's -- that's not actually how it's going to work at all. In fact, what we're more likely to see and what I see the president signaling here is that he's going to want all of this resolved and stabilized. I think, you know, we'll have a short week in the markets next week, but they'll probably be some kind of favorable move, kind of a little bit of a pop because of the talk about stabilizing this entire relationship.
The president doesn't want this hanging over his head going into the election year. I think he's going to reach whatever kind of deal he can, walk back some of the trade talk, he's certainly done enough that he can go back to his base and say, I'm talking tough with China. We're not going to let them walk over us, and all of the kind of rhetoric that we've heard from him for the last several years. But in the end, he's going to make the relationship as normal as possible to make sure that he has a healthy economy going into the election year.
BLACKWELL: The healthy economy, the transactional relationship also at the center of the narrative with Saudi Arabia, Aaron. The president saying today that he was horrified, I'm paraphrasing here, by the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a U.S. resident, "Washington Post" columnist, but then immediately went into describing the economic relationship with MBS, Mohammed Bin Salman, the Crown Prince there. The president here continue the narrative that, yes, that's terrible, but look at the money.
MILLER: Yes, well, you know something, this is what I call the great bamboozle. The narrative that, yes, that's the narrative that, yes, that's terrible, but look at the money. Yes, well, you know something, this is what I call the great bamboozle. I mean think about it, his four predecessors on their first four and four I think went to Canada or Mexico. This guy goes to Saudi Arabia. He's made a judgment, in my sense wrongly and Saudi Arabia is an important country but, he's made a judgment that the Saudis are the hook on which he wants to hang America's strategic hat.
And the reality is they're not confronting the Iranians, they're expanding opportunities for Iranian involvement in Yemen and in Qatar. They're not doing much, frankly, with respect to Israeli-Palestinian peace. Oil prices, it's in their own interests to keep market share and to keep prices relatively low and eight months ago, Jamal Khashoggi walks into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to a horrific, horrific death and yet the CIA reports, medium to high confidence that the crown prince ordered the killing.
The U.N. Special Repertoire on torture almost reached the same conclusion yet Mr. Trump simply whistles - whistles by the graveyard on this one. No accountability, no accounting, and, in fact, enabling the cover-up that has gone on now for eight or nine months. And there, Victor, will be no change in Trump's attitudes toward the Saudi. The crown prince has bamboozled him and he finds great advantage -- arms deals, money, the glory of kings, all of that appeals to his ego, and in his view, the American national interest.
BLACKWELL: Yes, he was very complimentary, Errol, of Mohammed Bin Salman. And the U.S. - Saudi relationship has always been a challenging one to balance the relationship that was reserved to energy and arms sales and the rest but this president sat down and congratulated him. And also in this news conference said that what he's doing with women has been tremendous.
Live pictures here of the president deplaning in Seoul, South Korea. Of course, he'll be meeting with Moon Jae-in, the President of South Korea. There is that invitation that is out there to Kim Jong-un and we've heard from the foreign minister of North Korea in which they say that this invitation from the president, sent via twitter last night was, quote, "very interesting suggestion" there, but they say they've not received an official proposal so the casual way within which the president has invited Kim Jong-un to meet him at the DMZ, the North Koreans are asking for a bit more formality, I guess, or maybe they're both playing coy because there is the reporting that there has been some underground, behind-the-scenes effort to make this meeting happen. Maybe the president just wants the rest of the world to believe that he can send a tweet and invite the dictator of North Korea to the DMZ and there he will meet him.
The president meeting with officials there on the ground and then he'll start off on his day, local time, 7:18 p.m. Can't imagine there will be too much on the itinerary tonight as the president has had a long day. Let me come back to you on MBS, what we were talking about Errol. The president compliments about MBS being a reformer in Saudi Arabia. That was the narrative at the start of this administration and when MBS became the crown prince but that seems to have changed over the last several months and years.
LOUIS: Well, that's right. It's been mixed signals to say the least. For example, a lot of attention was paid to Saudi Arabia, finally allowing women to drive on their own but then the women who led the movement were subjected to a crackdown by the crown prince. We also have to keep in mind that any hopes of stability that might be provided by a strong relationship with the Saudi regime are greatly undermined by their adventurism in Yemen, which is the world's greatest humanitarian crisis at this point where you've got hundreds of thousands of people who have been displaced. I mean, it's an absolute catastrophe. You know, there are no good choices. I talk to a lot of Middle East
experts. They say there were never any good choices in that particular part of the world but that the set of choices that the administration has made in this case, you can see that it's going to lead us into problems that you're never, ever supposed to fall into. In other words, siding entirely or embracing so completely this particular regime is going to cause a lot of problems for American diplomacy.
BLACKWELL: I see the president now boarding Marine One as he heads off after landing in Seoul, South Korea. Let me come back to you, Aaron. There was something you said, this was ahead of the 2018 G20 in Buenos Aires in which you said that the conventional wisdom is that President Trump hates these multilateral meetings like the G20, but there's another dimension in which he thrives.
He knows the world is watching and is quintessentially the thing he loves the most. It's a big stage.
How much do you think that that context, that framing, influences what we've seen from the president over the last couple of days, and what we'll see potentially in South Korea?
MILLER: I think it's everything, Victor. I think -- you have probably the first president in history who has a natural ability to turn the "m" in me upside down so that it becomes a "w" in we. His persona, his needs, his requirements, his ego, that has shaped U.S. diplomacy. I worked for half a dozen administrations, both republican and democrat. I voted for republicans and democrats. Never have I seen an administration so defined by the needs and requirements of a single individual.
Walking out of the Iran deal was largely driven by the president's campaign commitments and his desire to fundamentally separate himself from Barak Obama, his predecessor. I think it's everything. And when in fact ego drives the relationship, the president believes his persona, his forceful personality can actually turn and manage leaders and will help prisoner relationships that are very important, Victor. The reality is it is not the personal interest, it's the national interest that defines things, and that's why President Putin and Xi and Kim Jong-un and MBS and the other authoritarians with whom Mr. Trump treats I think have such an advantage. They play on that ego, they play on that flattery and by and large, to use Mr. Trump's own standard, we're not winning.
BLACKWELL: We're watching that Marine One is about to take off. We know that the president will be having dinner with South Korean President Moon Jae-in in about an hour or so if they're still on schedule. Aaron, one more to you here and you brought up Iran. You've got a new piece out just this weekend, asking if Trump can negotiate with Kim Jong-un, why not Iran? Of course there are several geopolitical factors there from the Gulf States to Israel and all the domestic concerns. But the most important element, the Iranians don't want to talk right now. What's the potential that current pressures if they're consistent and, Aaron, this is to you, are enough to change that? MILLER: Slim to none, Victor. Slim to none. I mean, you can't -- a
brief for the Iranian regime, it's a serial human rights abuser. It's a regional menace. It executes I think more people than any other country in the world than China but the reality is you're going to target the supreme leader. That is a very unsubtle way of saying that in fact we're not interested in negotiations with the United States. We want the regime change. Not a change in your behavior that we want, it's a change in personnel.
I think by and large there are individuals, I think Mr. Bolton belongs to this group and perhaps Mr. Pompeo, as well, who frankly would love to see the regime changed and frankly, most people I think would. But we can't do it. We couldn't do it in Venezuela in our hemisphere, 50 countries that support us with a legitimate leader out in the streets. We can't do regime change there. How did we -- how does Mr. Trump expect to do it in Iran? If you're sending those signals you're not interested it seems to me in talking.
BLACKWELL: Well, Iran one of the topics that came up in that wide- ranging news conference this morning with the president. Aaron David Miller, Errol Lewis, thank you both. Lots of topics Christi, that came out from the president today.
PAUL: No doubt about it. And, President Trump of course joking with Russian President Vladimir Putin about fake news. Why this morning journalists in Russia may not think that's a laughing matter.
PAUL: Twenty-seven minutes past the hour right now and this morning President Trump firing back after former President Jimmy Carter suggested that he was not legitimately elected. Listen to this.
TRUMP: He's been trashed within his own party. He's been badly trashed. I felt badly for him because you look over the years, his party has virtually -- he's like the forgotten president. And I understand why they say that. He was not a good president.
PAUL: Not sure who says that. But the president's comments are a direct response to President Carter who was asked about Russia's interference in the 2016 election. Listen to this.
JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's no doubt that the Russians did interfere in the election and I think the interference, although not yet quantified, if pull an investigation would show that Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf.
PAUL: In a meeting with Vladimir Putin, President Trump seemed to joke with the Russian president about his dislike for the media.
TRUMP: You don't know what (inaudible) from Russia.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
PAUL: There were chuckles there. And this is something that you may not know that's worth noting. The committee to protect journalists has found at least 25 journalists have been killed in Russia between 2000 and today. Former United States Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, responded to the president's comments in an interview with Anderson Cooper last night.
JAMES CLAPPER, FORMER DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: I think if the president's instincts were allowed to prevail he'd have a similar system for oppressing the media in this country as Putin enjoys in Russia.
PAUL: I want to get to CNN International Editor Nic Robertson. He's in Osaka, Japan, this morning following the developments out of the G20. This week was the first time President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had met since the release of the Mueller report, as well. First of all, the significance of that meeting.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL EDITOR: The significance seems to be that President Trump is not willing to push President Putin on not meddling in the upcoming presidential elections even though, you know, President Trump's already started his own campaign.
This is - this is a live issue. He's willing to take it appears from what he said at the press conference today that President Putin again denies meddling in the 2016 election over and above President Trump taking that over and above what he's hearing from his own national security officials. What we're told they did talk about that was on the agenda, Syria, Iran, Ukraine, Venezuela.
You know, into the substance of how hard President Trump pushed President Putin on not meddling, again, the response from President Trump seemed very disappointing to many people. When he was asked he said he had raised it but he wasn't going to push it because President Putin told him I'm not meddling. PAUL: So I'm wondering how this was received in Russia, Nic. I know
that you're not there. But when you've got 25 journalists who have been killed in Russia, is it believed that President Putin himself is behind that?
ROBERTSON: You know, yes. I think is the very simple answer, yes. Who's going to go ahead and try to prosecute a president who holds absolutes power in the country? You'd have to be a very brave judge to do that and Russia's not the kind of place where a judge is going to stick their head above the parapet.
I was in Russia many times in recent years but last year I was covering the sudden death of a journalist who unexplainably fell from a fifth story apartment where he was living. Apparently special forces police had arrived there shortly before. The next thing is neighbors find his almost dead body on the pavement outside.
I talked to the journalist at the newspaper where he worked and none of them there really wanted to go on the record and speak up about who was responsible. They did want to note his death. They did want to say that they didn't trust what had happened but to actually accuse President Putin and hold him to account for this atmosphere of fear for the reality of the fear that people don't report things that they could otherwise report because they're afraid of what would happen, people get arrested for going out and protesting, never mind criticizing the government in newspapers. President Putin has -- has an incredible writ across the media in Russia, such that they won't criticize him, and they pretty much tow his party line all the time.
PAUL: Nic Robertson, we appreciate you walking us through it so much. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg is back in Indiana and addressing the racial tension between South Bend police, and the city's African-American residents head on today. What we can expect, that's ahead.
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BLACKWELL: Democratic Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg is back in South Bend, Indiana, today to mourn the death of Eric Logan. He's an African-American man who died in a police shooting. It sparked national attention. Buttigieg will not attend the funeral, but he will attend a peace walk in the community gathering later this morning.
His city is grappling with racial tensions between the police and the city's black residents. It's an issue he was forced to address at the first Democratic President Debate this week and last night on CNN Buttigieg talked about how he would handle racial issues if he's elected president.
PETE BUTTIGIEG, 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well I don't think all these issues are things that somebody can just claim to have solved. The issues that I haven't solved as a mayor are issues that America hasn't solved that no city has solved but where we've made progress, sometimes it's three steps forward and two steps back. I'm not going to present myself as the person who is going to resolve racial tension or racial inequality in this country. That's not the story I'm telling.
PAUL: And one of the major issues democratic candidates talked about during the debate, expanding healthcare coverage for more Americans. The thing is they're split on how they're going to make this happen. Some support a single-payer healthcare system; others proposed different plans such as a public option. Tami Luhby for CNN with us now. We're hearing so much Tami about Medicare For All as it's dubbed. Help people at home understand exactly what that means.
TAMI LUHBY, CNN WRITER: Sure. Medicare For All is Sanders' vision on how to transform the American healthcare system. It would be a pretty radical change from what we have now. Right now, about half of Americans are covered by their workplace insurance. Most people, you and I and others, get their coverage through their jobs. About a little over one-third get it through government programs such as Medicare or Medicaid, and the rest are either on the individual exchange or are uninsured. There are about 9 percent who are uninsured.
Under Medicare For All, as Sanders envisions it, it would cover almost everything. Everybody would be covered, and they would have their hospitalizations covered, emergency care, doctors, maternity, mental health, and what Medicare doesn't have right now it would have vision, dental, hearing aids, so it would be extremely comprehensive and no -- there would be no co-pays, no deductibles, no premiums so it would be at no cost to patients.
PAUL: I was going to say, very - I got you catching yourself there because this is ...
PAUL: ... because this is what everybody is confused about. You're talking in a way that makes it sound as though it's free health care, you're not going to have to worry about it. Somebody has to pay for it.
PAUL: And that's going to come by the way of taxes. LUHBY: Yes. And so we don't really know how much it's going to cost;
Sanders hasn't detailed it. There have been a few studies that say it would cost about $32 trillion over ten years. Sanders has offered some options on how to pay for it which does include raising taxes on all Americans. But he argues that many people would come out ahead because, you know, as many of us know, health care is not cheap right now. We pay high premiums when we go to the doctor, we have to pay a deductible, we have to pay co-pays or co-insurance. Sanders is arguing that even though taxes will go up, for many they'll still come out ahead because they won't have any of those costs.
PAUL: But it will hurt the people who are on Medicaid now, right, because they aren't paying extra taxes and they're getting Medicare.
LUHBY: Well so Medicare is for seniors and Medicaid is for the low income.
LUHBY: So seniors do pay -- some republicans and others are saying this would hurt people on Medicare.
LUHBY: Again, we don't have enough details to really know how it would change. Medicare, they do have premiums and very small deductibles and co-insurance. So yes, one could argue that they may pay more in taxes. We haven't seen studies on that. But they would actually be getting a lot more. They would not have to pay -- right now Medicare doesn't cover dental. It doesn't cover vision. It doesn't cover hearing aids, which are thousands of dollars. So, and a lot of seniors can't afford to get them so they don't get them. Under Medicare For All, they would be able to get their teeth fixed. They would be able to get hearing aids. So it remains a question I think academics have to look at it more as to how -- whether seniors would come out ahead or not.
PAUL: All right. All right and of course the big question is private insurance. Dr. Sanjay Gupta earlier this week said that this is where people fall off. When they realize they can't keep the insurance they currently have.
PAUL: We'll see how that all goes through. Tammy Luhby, we appreciate you walking us through. It thank you.
BLACKWELL: We're about a week into summer, and Europe is seeing record-breaking temperatures and now we're starting to feel heat in the U.S. Here's Allison Chinchar.
ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: That's right. Over half a dozen states dealing with dangerous heat alerts across portions of the Midwest. We'll talk about how long this heat wave will last.
PAUL: Have you noticed summer's off to a scorching start in Europe where country after country is seeing all-time record highs. Look at Paris. Overheated crowds found a place to cool off at some of the city's most popular tourist attractions. There were extra pools opened, hours extended this week as temperatures reached 114 degrees Fahrenheit. A similar heat wave in 2003 killed 14,000 people. This is really serious here. And the soaring temperatures fed wildfires that are burning near the Spanish town of Talado. Temperatures there rising to more than 107 degrees.
BLACKWELL: It's also hot in the U.S. I mean, half a dozen states are dealing with heat advisories, more than 50 million people under threat of swear weather, so of course we go to CNN's Allison Chinchar with us now. Listen, we're going into the 4th of July week, that break. Everybody likes a hot summer. For some people, this is dangerous.
CHINCHAR: You like it to feel like summer, you just don't want it to get to be dangerous heat when you're talking about the summertime. And unfortunately that's what we're going to be dealing with for this weekend. Here you can see nearly 15 million people under either a heat advisory or even an excessive heat watch for the city of Minneapolis. This is mainly focused across portions of the Midwest but if that wasn't enough, you also have the threat for severe storms, not just for the Midwest but also across portions of the North East. We're talking cities like New York, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., also under the gun.
The threats themselves are going to be large hail, damaging winds, and the potential for some isolated tornadoes. The timeline for a lot of these storms, especially in the Northeast is going to be shortly after lunchtime today and it will carry through into the evening and even the overnight hours for a lot of the coastal cities. You also have the severe threat out across portions of the Midwest this afternoon and into the evening hours.
It's that added moisture that's really going to meet that heat index or the feels-like temperature, brutal in some places. Kansas City topping out with an index of 100; De Moines 101, even Minneapolis, where the feels-like temperature right around 93. Here's the thing -- a lot of times in these instances, you worry about heat instances, but also please do not leave children, elderly, or pets in your vehicle on a hot day. We're coming off of last year, 52 people died in hot car- related deaths. That was an all-time record for hot car-related deaths. This year so far, we're already up to 15; one of those being in just the last 48 hours.
Here's why this is important. Your car acts like an oven if these hot days. Sure, the outside temperature is hot, but it has more than impact on the inside temperature because in just about ten minutes being in that hot car, when the outside temperature is say, 90 degrees, the inside temperatures jumps to 109. This is important because at 107 degrees, your organs can already start to fail. So again, you're talking ten minutes here. Now fast forward, say, a little bit more, to 30 minutes in a car. You run an errand, you forget about it, something's in the car, again, same temperature, 90 degrees, Victor and Christi, now becomes 124 degrees which does not give many people any time even if you were to call help for them to be able to get those people to survive. So please again, it's worth mentioning a second time, please do not leave anyone or any pet inside of your hot car on a day like today.
BLACKWELL: And be sure to check on the elderly who may be home alone who do not have A.C. Make sure you at least give a call or stop by. Allison Chinchar, thanks so much.
PAUL: So enough with the words. No more controversy. The U.S. rose above the noise Vince Cellini, whoo.
VINCE CELLINI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes they did. The United States had never played a host nation in a women's World Cup but under that pressure, they thrived and survived to play another day. We'll take a look.
PAUL: Listen, it was called the biggest match in the history of women's soccer. Whether it was a win or not, it's probably debatable, but it was a good one.
BLACKWELL: The U.S. survives against France in Paris, Vince, big win.
CELLINI: Yes, absolutely. They pushed through in a lot of ways in this match. The U.S. had a lot of talk swirling around them; target on their backs, heading into the tournament, a blowout win against Thailand, criticism for that, and the controversy surrounding co- captain Megan Rapinoe and President Trump. But none of that seemed to matter.
A sold-out crowd in Paris to watch this match between the two favorites, and the buzz was simply incredible. A match worthy of a final, but it was played in the quarters. Back in the U.S., massive crowds at watch parties and they barely had a chance to get settled, just five minutes in. Rapinoe on a free kick and somehow manages to get past a sea of bodies through the defenders into the back of the net; when she's basking in the moment, the fans erupting across the Atlantic.
But Rapinoe was not finished. We go to the 65th minute, U.S. on the break, (inaudible) the cross through the box, and Rapinoe alone and burying it. Now the U.S. is up two - nil and they need it because now they're up 2-1 and France was pushing to tie this across hits defender Kelly O'Hara in the arm. No penalty is called. No handball is called and the U.S. survives and after the game the team says they never lost focus.
(BEGIN VIDEO) MEGAN RAPINOE, U.S. SOCCER TEAM: I don't spend a ton of time on twitter And I learned a long time ago that there's only devils in the mentions.
BECKY SAUERBRUNN, USWNT DEFENDER: I'm just so proud of her. She's brave, and she took all that pressure and put it on her back and carried it. And she deserves it. She deserves -- everything she stands for, everything she puts into the game, everything she fights for, it's amazing. And she's really just backing herself up by being an absolute baller out there so it's really awesome to see.
CELLINI: OK, following the match, Rapinoe and the team getting another invite to Washington. This time from New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to tour the House of Representatives to which Rapinoe responded, "Consider it done." Remember she and the other members of the team said they would not go to the White House even with President Trump inviting them. Next up for team USA, England, 3:00 p.m. Eastern, July 2; two days before Independence Day.
Meanwhile major league baseball following the lead of the NFL and the NBA exporting America's national pastime across the Atlantic. Look how quickly they worked. The game's fiercest rivalry the Yankees-Red Sox and the transformation at Westham United Cricket Field in London, the first time Major League Baseball has played a game on European soil.
And of course when in London, do as the Londoners don't. Some Sox players bringing kids for the double-decker bus tour of the city yesterday. Before the game today, first pitch today at 1:10 p.m. Eastern and it's a smaller configuration of the stadiums you see in the big league ballparks so we can expect some runs and scoring.
And finally, the thing nightmares are made of. Thousands of bees swarmed a cricket match between Sri Lanka and South Africa being played in London yesterday. Instead of running in sheer panic like any sane person would do, the players dropped to the ground. This guy is awfully calm about it. It actually seemed to work. Who knew that was the strategy when attacked by bees? Remember "Tommy Boy" when Chris Farley was like, "Bees. Bees." That would be me. I would be totally...
BLACKWELL: But is that what you're supposed to do? You're supposed to just drop to the...
CELLINI: I don't know the bee handbook. I'm not sure exactly what...
BLACKWELL: And the bees don't ...
PAUL: I don't think they would like come after you unless you are probably - you know, I guess you fell and you're down.
CELLINI: Christi, bees.
BLACKWELL: And there really is nothing more American in London than getting on a hop on - hop off bus.
CELLINI: There is.
BLACKWELL: Really? I feel like that's the thing you do. Vince Cellini, thanks so much.
CELLINI: Thank you. Thank you so much.
PAUL: All righty, we're going to be right back. Breaking news from Japan overnight. The president has been addressing a number of issues and now says the U.S. is holding off putting new tariffs on China. What else he said. He talked about so many things, we're back in a moment.