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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: A 50 minute meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un.
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KIM JONG-UN, NORTH KOREAN SUPREME LEADER (through translator): Good to see you again. I've never expected to meet you at this place. You'll be -- U.S. (ph) president (ph) to step forward. You will be the first U.S. president to cross the border.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the way. Move.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move, move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Clear. All of you. Clear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on move. Move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we take a picture here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, hey, hey. Come on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on. Guys --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait until they move.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on, guys.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait until they move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, Mr. President.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a great moment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Great moment. Great moment.
TRUMP (ph): Great progress. Tremendous progress.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. -- U.S. over here. U.S. over here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chairman Kim, how do you feel?
JONG-UN (through translator): President Trump has just walked across the demarcation line. That made him the first U.S. president to visit our country.
I believe just looking at this action (ph), this is an expression of his willingness to eliminate all the unfortunate past and open a new future.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I just want to say that this is my honor. I didn't really expect it. We were in Japan for the G20. We came over and I said, hey, I'm over here, I want to call up Chairman Kim.
And we got to meet and stepping across that line was a great honor. A lot of progress has been made. A lot of friendships have been made.
And this has been in particular a great friendship. So I just want to thank you. That was very quick notice and I want to thank you.
So, we're going to go inside. We're going to talk a little while about different things. And a lot of really positive things are happening. And I'm glad you'll be here to see it.
But tremendous positivity, really great things are happening and in a lot of places, but we met and we liked each other from day one. And that was very important.
Thank you, everybody. Thank you. I would invite him right now to the White House.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Clear. Come on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guys -- guys, move back.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: So those two leaders met for as we said nearly an hour. South Korean president called it a big step forward. The question is, what comes next?
CNN International Correspondent, Paula Hancocks with us now. Paula, do you get the sense that there is a new trust built here?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Victor and Christie, it is interesting, the one thing that really stuck out to me from what Kim Jong-un was saying was when he first met President Trump at the MDL, the Military Demarcation Line, between North and South Korea, he said I didn't expect to see you here.
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So until yesterday this wasn't a suggestion to the North Korean leader. And we saw when he was talking about the Singapore summit there was a suggestion it would be at the DMZ, Trump's advisers suggested it shouldn't be. The same with the Hanoi summit.
And yet here you saw history being made as he stepped into North Korea. So even Kim Jong-un it appears was taken by surprise that this had even happened.
Now, we were promised a handshake by President Trump. He said it will possibly be a two-minute chat. It will just a hello at the border.
We certainly saw more than that. This was not a summit, but it was far more than a handshake. Just over an hour, in fact, an hour and four minutes according to the Blue House, they timed that bilateral meeting behind closed doors between Kim Jong-un and President Trump, we don't know exactly what was spoken about there, but when President Trump came out, he said that they have agreed to restart the talks. They are setting up their respective teams to make sure that they are going to push this forward.
Now, one interesting thing again that Kim Jong-un said as he was leading President Trump out of the meeting and heading back toward the northern side of the DMZ, he said -- quote -- "The fact that we will be able to meet each other any time now, I think this is the signal this meeting will send."
So that appears to be the main thing that Kim Jong-un has taken away from this meeting as far as we can tell, the fact that they will be able to meet anywhere, at any point. But, of course, what comes next is the crucial question.
Is this a handshake diplomacy or is this going to move forward? At least at this point we can say the talks are no longer stalled.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: And we'll see what we do -- what they do with those talks. Paula Hancocks for us there in the DMZ, thank you.
PAUL: And that is the big question. We're going to talk with somebody next who has some ideas about what might happen from this point on. Stay close.
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BLACKWELL: This morning, for the first time we saw a sitting U.S. president walk across the border into North Korea. Then North Korean leader Kim Jong-un walked into South Korea, but he did that with President Moon of South Korea back in April.
Now the two sat down to meet for almost an hour. As two other U.S. presidents have visited North Korea, but they waited until they were out of office to do it. President Carter went to North Korea in 1994 to persuade Kim Il-sung to negotiate with the Clinton administration over its nuclear program. He returned in 2010 to free a hostage being held there.
And then former President Clinton went in 2009 to free two American journalists being held hostage by Kim Jong-un's father.
PAUL: Now before the historic handshake between President Trump and Kim Jong-un, the president was asked how the substance of the relationship has changed through these meetings. Watch the way he answers Bloomberg's Margaret Talev.
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MARGARET TALEV, SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, BLOOMBERG NEWS: Thank you, Mr. President. Margaret Talev with Bloomberg News.
Why do you want to step into North Korea? And what do you think that handshake could actually accomplish?
Nothing has substantively changed since Hanoi. North Korea has tested short-range missiles. Why does Kim Jong-un deserve this moment?
And how do you respond to the critics who say it's nothing more than a photo op or that you're legitimizing a nuclear state?
I also quickly need to get in one China clarification, which is your agreement with President Xi as of yesterday, does that bring you back to the point in April, where they had made a lot of concessions on I.P. and that sort of stuff? Or are you back at November, back at the beginning of the process?
TRUMP: So it's two very distinct questions.
TALEV: I've got one for Moon also --
TRUMP: Before you do a third -- I know. You'll do that in a second.
TALEV: OK. Thanks.
TRUMP: No, we've made tremendous strides. Only the fake news says that they weren't. If you look again, I don't have to repeat it but if you look again at where we were 2.5 years ago -- and I think I can say the hatred that everybody had for everybody and where it was going -- and I said that if President Obama's term was, for some reason, extended through any method, including having a successor that thought the way that that administration thought, you would be right now at war with North Korea.
And it wouldn't be pretty. It would be tough. We have the greatest military in the world by far. We have a much greater military now than we had 2.5 years ago, as you know very well. You reported on it. We bought tremendous equipment from jets to ships to equipment for soldiers. But we are in a much different place right now, Margaret, than we were 2.5 years ago, much different.
And the previous administration wanted to talk. I would ask people, why aren't they talking. And not everything happens with talks. Some bad things happen with talk, too.
But in this case we are so far advanced from where we were 2.5 years ago --
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PAUL: Ambassador Joseph DeTrani, former special envoy for Six Party Talks with North Korea is with us now. Thank you so much.
JOSEPH DETRANI, FORMER SPECIAL ENVOY FOR SIX PARTY TALKS WITH NORTH KOREA: Thank you.
PAUL: We appreciate, Ambassador, you taking the time to be with us.
DETRANI: Thank you.
PAUL: What do you think -- of course -- must be different in this upcoming summit whenever it is, the president and Kim Jong-un saying their teams are working now to get the process going. But what has to be different next time around than what we have seen in the past?
DETRANI: Well, what has to be different is we have our negotiators meeting. We're actually talking about the substance and the substance is complete verifiable denuclearization. For North Korea, it's a path to normalization with the United States.
It is also a peace treaty. But also the lifting of sanctions. So, this is work for our negotiators.
So, I think that's the difference. If we can have our negotiators actually meeting, and doing the heavy lifting, I think that's progress.
PAUL: So -- but what will they -- what will they have to establish as the foundation before we see President Trump and Kim Jong-un sit down together?
DETRANI: You know, I think they have to establish the end goal what are we looking for? What is the end goal here? When we talk about complete verifiable denuclearization, do we both as North Korea and the U.S. agree that it is complete verifiable, all nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons facility?
And on the part of the U.S., for North Korea, what do we mean by normalization of relations? Transformation of relations, a peace treaty?
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What is the timeline for lifting sanctions? These are issues for the negotiators.
PAUL: What do -- what does the U.S. know about the nuclear ambitions and capabilities of North Korea? Are you confident that it is accurate? DETRANI: You know, I think the -- I think the intelligence community has done a great job on North Korea. I think they understand their nuclear program, their missile program. I think they're looking at that reality and we have all seen it with the nuclear tests, the thermal nuclear tests, with an anti-continental ballistic missile launch in 2017.
So, I think we have a good sense of what North Korea has in regards to nuclear and weapons capabilities. And that's what this is all about.
PAUL: At the end of the day, though, you're still having a U.S. president sitting down with a dictator who has been accused of killing family members that North Korea has huge human rights abuse records.
How do you address that and still get what you want in terms of denuclearization?
DETRANI: No. I think your point is an excellent point. And I think North Korea understands that as they move towards a more normal relationship with the United States and ultimately what they want is a normal relations with our embassies and the respected capitals, they have to address human rights issues, there needs to be transparency and progress on issues like this.
But I think the key here is getting them to agree on the denuclearization issue and then that gets them on a path to normalizing relations which would include the whole question of human rights. And also illicit activities.
PAUL: All right. Ambassador Joseph DeTrani, we appreciate so much you taking time for us.
DETRANI: Thank you, Christi. Thank you.
PAUL: Ambassador, thank you.
DETRANI: Thank you.
BLACKWELL: So, President Trump, Chairman Kim made history this morning. They now say there will be talks. We'll talk with a former State Department negotiator about what is ahead for these two countries and how the president can get to denuclearization if it is possible.
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BLACKWELL: Well, President Trump made history this morning, is now the first sitting U.S. president to set foot in North Korea.
PAUL: Take a look at this, as he crossed the DMZ, posed for photos with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, or watched this whole thing play out here.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to head up to the Bush bunker. Get (ph) a nice meal last night, sir?
Sir, if you look about 60 kilometers into the distance, you see that mountain out there? That's (INAUDIBLE). The heart (INAUDIBLE).
TRUMP: You say that used to be very dangerous, very, very dangerous. After our first summit, all of the danger went away. Much different place.
So, I want to thank you very much. Very special group of people. I just look at you, look how healthy and how strong and how good. And we really appreciate it. We appreciate it very much.
So this was a scheduled visit from a number of months ago. We went from the G20 and I promised your president, President Moon who is a friend of mine, I said we have to see the DMZ, and so this was scheduled for a long time ago. And then yesterday I had the idea, maybe I'll call Chairman Kim and see if he wants to say hello.
So we didn't give him much notice, but we become -- we respect each other. We respect each other. Maybe even like each other.
And he's agreed to meet and I'm going to meet him in about four minutes. So I'm going to cut my speech a little bit short other than to say you are terrific people. You've done a fantastic job. And we're with you all the way. You know that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stay low, stay low.
JONG-UN (through translator): Good to see you again. I've never expected to meet you at this place. You'll be -- U.S. (ph) president (ph) to step forward. You will be the first U.S. president to cross the border.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the way. Move.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move, move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Clear. All of you. Clear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on move. Move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we take a picture here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, hey, hey. Come on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on. Guys --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait until they move. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on, guys.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait until they move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, Mr. President.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a great moment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Great moment. Great moment.
TRUMP (ph): Great progress. Tremendous progress.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Come on. Come on. Come on. Go, go, go.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Move, move, move. Go.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are they going?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Straight. They're going straight. They're going straight --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you feel?
TRUMP: Great. I feel great. It's a great honor to be here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop, stop, stop.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop.
TRUMP: A great honor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. OK. OK.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. OK. OK.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) hasn't expected this moment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. over here. U.S. over here. U.S. over here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Chairman Kim, how do you feel?
JONG-UN (through translator): President Trump has just walked across the demarcation line. That made him the first U.S. president to visit our country.
I believe just looking at this action (ph), this is an expression of his willingness to eliminate all the unfortunate past and open a new future.
TRUMP: I just want to say that this is my honor. I didn't really expect it. We were in Japan for the G20. We came over and I said, hey, I'm over here, I want to call up Chairman Kim. And we got to meet and stepping across that line was a great honor. A lot of progress has been made. A lot of friendships have been made.
And this has been in particular a great friendship. So I just want to thank you. That was very quick notice and I want to thank you.
So, we're going to go inside. We're going to talk a little while about different things. And a lot of really positive things are happening. And I'm glad you'll be here to see it.
But tremendous positivity, really great things are happening and in a lot of places, but we met and we liked each other from day one. And that was very important.
Thank you, everybody. Thank you. I would invite him right now to the White House.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Clear. Come on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guys -- guys, move back. Stay behind me. Stay behind me.
TRUMP: This is a great day for a lot of people -- it's a great day really for the world if you think about it. We're (ph) on (ph) North Korea, South Korea. It's a great day for the world and it's an honor for me to be here. Thank you, both, very much.
I have to say that when I first became president of the United States, there was great conflict in this area. Great, great conflict. And now we have just the opposite.
And it is my honor. And it is the chairman's honor. I can say we work well together and, Mr. President, thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. -- hey, hey. Hey, you back off. Back off.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop. No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let go --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I need help here.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: U.S. --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go. Go.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Excuse me.
[06:30:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it was not our excellent relations between the two of us, that could not have been possible to have this kind of opportunity. So I would like to use this cooperation to create more good news, which nobody expects in the past, and also to propel our good relation (INAUDIBLE).-- left to fend for themselves.
TRUMP: I want to thank you, Chairman. You hear the power of that voice. Nobody has heard that voice before. He doesn't do news conferences, in case you haven't heard. This was a special moment and this is, I think, really, as President Moon said, this is a historic moment, the fact that we're meeting.
And I want to thank Chairman Kim for something else. When I put out the social media notification, if he didn't show up, the press was going to make me look very bad. So you made us both look good, and I appreciate it. But we've developed a great relationship.
I really think that if you go back two and a half years and you look at what was going on prior to my becoming president, it was a very, very bad situation, a very dangerous situation for South Korea, for North Korea, for the world.
And I think the relationship that we've developed has meant so much to so many people. And it is just an honor to be with you and it was an honor to step over the line and I was proud to step over the line. I thought you might do that. I wasn't sure but I was ready to do it. And I want to thank you. It's been great. It has been great, very historic.
And just saying, one of the folks from the media was saying this could be a very historic moment. And I guess that's what it is. But I enjoyed being with you and thank you very much.
And speaking with President Moon, oftentimes he was saying this is historic, just the meeting is historic. And I think there is something to that. It will be even more historic if something comes of it, something very important. But a lot has already come up.
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BLACKWELL: A historic moment indeed. But the question is, what are the global implications of this and where will these talks go from here? We'll discuss next.
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BLACKWELL: More on the historic moment this morning between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. The President, now the first sitting U.S. President to set foot in North Korea. The President has proved that he is not afraid to have these unconventional meeting with leaders like Kim Jong-un. But what does this say to U.S. allies or other world leaders?
Let's discuss now with Aaron David Miller, CNN Global Affairs Analyst and former State Department Negotiator.
Aaron, welcome back.
Let's start here with just your reaction to the optics of the President taking those steps into North Korea and the sentimental warm relationship that we saw play out this morning in the DMZ.
AARON DAVID MILLER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: I mean, I think that's the key to this in many respects. President Trump made, I think, a strategic decision to change the basic conversation, in essence, to stop talking about North Korea and start talking to North Korea.
Now, maybe it was done for reasons of domestic politics, of personal vanity, maybe he's determined, and I think he is, to look at North Korea as a signature issue of his presidency. It is his ticket into the history books. It is his ticket to a Nobel. It is a way to separate himself in such a fundamental way from all of these departures.
30 years, Victor, American administrations and presidents have tried everything, sanctions, cooperation with our military allies. And on these two occasions in 1994 and 2003, serious diplomacy in which North Korea committed itself to denuclearization and yet we find ourselves in 2018 with Chairman Kim basically saying his nuclear program was complete. He has ballistic missiles that can hit the Continental United States and anywhere from 15 to 60 deliverable nuclear weapons.
So I think this is a critical signature item in the President's diplomacy. And it may well be that there is a window that Kim, in fact, senses that Trump going into an election campaign, there is an opportunity to take advantage of Trump's own willingness to sit down and engage with Kim in the event he ends up with -- Kim ends up with a successor that is not nearly as willing.
BLACKWELL: So there are these talks that the two have agreed to, and you know the cycle, this has been going on for some time now, that there will be talks, then an agreement, and then a breach of that agreement, and then a breakdown and then talks again, right? So we're going back into the cycle.
But there is a player here that we have not discussed, an hour and 38 minutes into the show, and that's China. And their role, even if they do not have a seat at the table, how much of an influence they have over this relationship especially as we saw President Xi there just a couple of weeks ago in Pyongyang.
MILLER: Right. I mean, we still don't know the basic tick tock on the back story. Maybe in fact it was the birthday greeting from Chairman Kim to Trump in the last week or so that put the idea of a meeting. Maybe it was the Xi/Kim meeting of ten days ago in which they discussed and maybe Xi delivered a message to the President that Chairman Kim would be open.
So the Chinese clearly have a role to play. And in a way, they'd like to see progress on this, but they also do not want to see what I would call the domestication of North Korea. They do not want to see an agreement that unifies the peninsula, certainly not under American auspices.
And can you imagine if President Trump succeeded, not just in creating an interim agreement on the nuclear issue but actually presided over a formal end to the North Korean, South Korean war, this would put American influence together with Japan right on China's doorstep.
So Chinese would like to use the North Korean issue to leverage their other issues including trade.
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BLACKWELL: Yes. They also don't want to see tensions and sanctions so stiff on North Korea that there is a refugee crisis at their border that they have to deal with as well. So it is a very narrow space for China.
Aaron David Miller, good to have you.
MILLER: Thank you, Victor.
PAUL: Well, former NBA star Dennis Rodman had a message with the President and Kim Jong-un ahead of this historic meeting. He Tweeted, quote, wishing my friends real Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un a very good meeting, much love to you both and keep up the wonderful progress, #peace and love.
Rodman sat down with CNN's Chris Cuomo last year and said North Korea's leader is moving on from the past and so should the U.S.
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DENNIS RODMAN, FORMER NBA PLAYER: Yes. I think that if Trump goes there with a great heart, with his heart on the table, and let Kim to see him, really emotional, as far as speaking to him, ain't going to be about war, ain't going to be about hatred or what happened in the future or the past and other past. I'm sorry, the past. We move on to the future.
Now, I've told people about Kim Jong-un. He's all about the 21st century. He's trying to progress his country. And Donald Trump is going to do a great job of trying to reach out and make sure that our hands, America's, our hands are always open.
Let's make this happen. If Trump can pull this off, more power to him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: A new controversy this morning for former Vice President Joe Biden. A crowd at a fundraiser turns on him over comments he made about making fun of a gay waiter. We'll explain when we come back.
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PAUL: Well, this morning, we have to talk about another birther conspiracy. This is similar to the one against former President Barack Obama crossing the internet. But this time, Senator and presidential hopeful Kamala Harris is the target.
BLACKWELL: So during Thursday's democratic presidential debate, Donald Trump Jr. re-Tweeted a Harris critic that questioned her identity. Trump Jr. later deleted the Tweet, but not before it was seen by his millions of followers. Harris' campaign is compared the comment to President Trump's birther conspiracy that targeted President Obama.
PAUL: Former Vice President Joe Biden, who had a tense exchange, remember, with Harris during this week's debate, is among many of the 2020 candidates who are defending her this morning, writing this, quote, the same forces of hatred rooted in birtherism that questioned Barack Obama's American citizenship and even his racial identity are now being used against Senator Kamala Harris. It is disgusting and we have to call it out when we see it. Racism has no place in America.
We should also point out that Washington state governor and 2020 candidate Jay Inslee had this to say.
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FMR. GOV. JAY INSLEE (D-WA): Well, unfortunately, it appears that the rotten apple doesn't fall too far from the rotten tree. And what comes to mind is the question to the whole Trump family, at last, have you no decency, sirs?
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BLACKWELL: Harris was born in Oakland, California to a mother from India and father from Jamaica. And in March, the Senator addressed the issue of critics who questioned her heritage.
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SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA): I'm not going to spend my time trying to educate people about who black people are. I was born black, I will die black and I'm proud of being black. And I'm not going to make any excuses for anybody because they don't understand.
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BLACKWELL: With us now, Daniel Lippman, reporter and co-author of Politico's Playbook. Daniel, welcome back. And let's start here with the obvious similarities between what we're seeing as it relates to Senator Harris and what the President promulgated against President Obama. But that was President Trump then private citizen Trump, this is Donald Trump Jr. in a re-Tweet that was deleted. How broad is this? How impactful could it be?
DANIEL LIPPMAN, REPORTER AND CO-AUTHOR OF POLITICO'S PLAYBOOK: Well, it has clear signs of being similar to the whole birtherism against former President Obama because, basically, it's questioning your legitimacy to be an American citizen and an American President. And, unfortunately, these types of things target people who are minorities.
And so many Americans may not be as familiar with the fact that there are many African-Americans who are from Jamaica, who immigrated from Jamaica. And so -- and Kamala Harris is not just African-American but also her mom is from India. And she used to visit that place as a child a lot.
And so I don't think that this is going to be a huge theme of the republican message against her if she's the nominee because it did not go along very well with Obama. He got two terms. And this seems even more farfetched against Kamala Harris because she was born in California. There's no question that she is legitimate to be elected president if a majority of Americans want her.
BLACKWELL: There was also no question that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, but, of course, that went on for quite some time as well.
Let's talk about --
LIPPMAN: Hawaii is a little more -- you know, we love Hawaii, but most Americans haven't even been to Hawaii. And people in Hawaii think that they don't feel as connected to the mainland, but, you know --
BLACKWELL: I hear you. But, you know, most Americans haven't been to Wyoming, nobody questions that as a state.
All right, so let's go here to this new Joe Biden, some might call it a gaffe. He was speaking at a fundraiser in Seattle. And he made this off-color remark that said that five years ago, if someone had, quote, made fun of a gay waiter that it would have been brushed off. It appears that he was suggesting that public sentiment about gay rights had progressed in just the last five years. Of course, he was Vice President five years ago.
The crowd pushed back, some shouting, not in Seattle, others saying, yes, maybe that would have happened, but long before five years ago. Another problem for Joe Biden or is this a major problem?
LIPPMAN: I think this is a more of a momentary issue, especially since there is no audio or videotape of this because it's a private fundraiser that he lets his -- you know, a pool reporter go into, which is more than you can say of many other democratic and republican candidates to let reporters into private homes when they are talking behind closed doors.
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But this is just another owned goal by Vice President Biden. There is no need for this type of controversy. And you don't want to, you know, tick off the gay community, which is a very -- very important part of the democratic constituency. So there is just no need for him to say something that is also not true.
BLACKWELL: All right, we'll see if this one has legs. Daniel Lippman, thank you so much.
LIPPMAN: Thanks, Victor.
BLACKWELL: 2020 democratic candidates Julian Castro and Senator Amy Klobuchar the guests this morning on State of the Union with Jake Tapper. You can watch right here at 9:00 Eastern right here on CNN.
PAUL: So there was royalty, a heated rivalry and a whole lot of scoring. That spectacle as America's past time made its debut in London. We're going to take you there.
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PAUL: So when you say honey, I want to go to the Yankees game and I say, all right, and then you tell them it's in London.
BLACKWELL: A historic moment. Vince Cellini is here.
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An expensive ticket, actually, if you go to the game.
VINCE CELLINI, SPORTSCASTER: Yes. I don't think it was really exemplary baseball that folks in England saw. It's not really how the game is supposed to be played. Pitching and defense out the window as these teams combined to score 30 runs. When we talked about that yesterday, there could be a lot of run scoring in a small stadium.
And yesterday, they packed the London stadium, sold out nearly 60,000 people on hand to watch the first ever MLB game in Europe, and they got the royal treatment. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle making an unexpected appearance, they threw out the first pitch.
And no baseball game is complete these days without a race featuring oversized heads of famous people, Henry the 8th, the Loch Ness monster, Winton Churchill and Freddie Mercury. Mercury won it, so he was the champion.
And then you get to the game itself. Thank you. And it was wild. The Yankees and Red Sox box scoring six runs in the first inning, six homeruns, 37 hits combined for the two teams, 30 runs, the second most ever in the series. And they have been playing baseball since 1903, these two. The Yankees come out on top 17-13, the final.
Well, the semifinals are set at the Women's World Cup. Sweden doing something few teams have done against Germany in the tournament, that is come from behind. Down 1-0, the Swedes scored two straight goals. Before yesterday, Germany had only lost two World Cup matches ever when scoring first. They were 28-2-2. Sweden will play the Netherlands, making its first ever trip to the semis coming up on Wednesday.
And, remember, team USA plays England in their semifinal match on Tuesday, and that is at 3:00 P.M. Eastern time, so much excitement from that Women's team for team USA. We're down to the semis, folks. How about that? PAUL: Yes, good luck to them.
BLACKWELL: I do like a good Freddie Mercury pun.
CELLINI: Of course. Well, that was easy.
BLACKWELL: Thank you.
PAUL: Thanks.
So President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, they met, but the question is what happens beyond the photo-op. We'll talk about that.
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