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Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) is Interviewed about Fourth of July in Washington, D.C.; Alabama Weighs Case in Unborn Baby's Death; Storms May Dampen July 4th; Matthew Broderick is Interviewed about the Impact of Movies; Memes Take Aim at Ivanka. Aired 8:30-9a ET
Aired July 3, 2019 - 08:30 ET
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[08:30:00] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Political events like this. So what then happens?
REP. DON BEYER (D-VA): Yes, I -- I'm not a lawyer, but there's certainly been a number of people writing in the last couple of days about potential violations of the Hatch Act. And, of course, we've seen all kinds of violations of the Hatch Act with Kellyanne Conway most recently where the head ethicist said she should be fired because of it, although she hasn't been.
BERMAN: Look, you say you represent Falls Church. That's your home. What's your suggestion to your constituents? Do you want the people in your district to go to this event?
BEYER: You know, I don't want people to stay away. I think we -- in any -- even though Trump's a great divider, we need to come together. So I wouldn't tell people to come -- stay away from it. You know, but there will be great fireworks in Falls Church too and in Alexandria, all over northern Virginia.
BERMAN: Is there an aspect of this -- and we've heard others say this also, Leon Panetta among others, the U.S. military doesn't go on parades like this because it doesn't have to because people know how strong the U.S. military is.
BEYER: Yes, I keep thinking about the Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly, carry a big stick. We're going to spend $750 billion, three quarters of a trillion dollars on our defense budget next year. The whole world knows that we're the most strongest military and so we don't need to swagger around and show people. I mean they know.
BERMAN: I want to ask you -- you were on the Ways and Means Committee and the Ways and Means Committee now is engaged in a court battle to get the president's tax returns. It's now official. This is ending up where frankly most people said it was going all along.
Did you guys wait too long to put this in court?
BEYER: No, I don't think so. I think our chairman, Richie Neal, has tried to be very careful and thoughtful about this. And the law from 1924 is crystal clear. It's one sentence long and says, upon the request of the chairman of Ways and Means, or the chairman of the Joint Tax Committee, the tax returns shall be turned over.
You know, by the way, as you know well, the American public doesn't get to see it. I don't get to see it as a member of the committee. Only the chairman. And then if there's something relevant in it, we -- he can move on from there.
BERMAN: Do you think --
BEYER: So I'm hoping that the courts will -- will side with us. And I think they should because the law's so clear.
BERMAN: Do you think that they will be furnished before the election?
BEYER: I -- you mean the election in 2020?
BEYER: I -- yes, I hope so. I think the courts realize this is an important national effort, endeavor. It's part of the conversation. So I don't think they're going to drag it out unnecessarily.
And I'm certainly hopeful that the Supreme Court -- because I think it will go to the Supreme Court -- that -- that they will act responsibly.
BERMAN: The law says "shall furnish."
Don Beyer, congressman from Virginia, thank you very much for being with us. Happy Fourth of July.
BEYER: Happy Fourth of July to you too.
BERMAN: Enjoy your declaration and fireworks wherever they may be.
BEYER: Thank you.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, John, from the first silent film, to the current mega blockbusters, the history of American cinema is sometimes beautiful, occasionally controversy, but always interesting. So this Sunday night our new CNN original series, "The Movies," delivers -- it delves into these stories behind the movies that you love. Watch this.
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RON HOWARD: There is still something about being told a story. A movie is something that's been really handcrafted. It's a mosaic that's been carefully pieced together. It just creates this opportunity to totally lose yourself.
MARTIN SCORSESE: These images live in our consciousness, it stays in our minds, the way music is recalled in our heads. Those images replay and we live our lives by them.
JULIA ROBERTS: It brings all the elements of all of our senses together. There's really nothing else like it.
JON FAVREAU: Even though you're doing something incredibly personal and in many ways incredibly selfish because you're doing something you love so much, then it gets out there in the world and it can change people's trajectories.
ALEC BALDWIN: When you can go somewhere that you can pretty much guarantee you're going to be able to set your worries aside for that period of time, it's like a drug. It's like a drug.
HOLLY HUNTER: It's just a direct conduit straight into your soul.
MORGAN FREEMAN: I grew up wanting to be the movies. It was all about the movies.
BAZ LUHRMANN Since the dawn of man, we like to get around a fireplace and commune in story together. So we can feel for a few hours that we're human together.
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CAMEROTA: OK, even that was fun. Even that promo was just fun. And, John, of course, won, identifying the movies the second he saw them. "The Movies" premiers this Sunday night at 9:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
BERMAN: I cannot wait.
CAMEROTA: Me neither.
We'll be right back.
[08:38:32] CAMEROTA: We are expecting an Alabama district attorney to announce her decision today in the case of a woman charged with manslaughter after her unborn baby died. Twenty-seven-year-old Marshae Jones was five months pregnant when she was shot in the stomach during a fight. Will the DA prosecute her for the death of her unborn baby?
CNN's Martin Savidge is live in Bessemer, Alabama, with more.
What's happening, Martin?
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.
Yes, ever since a grand jury handed down that manslaughter charge against Marshae Jones, the district attorney of Jefferson County here has maintained that she actually has the final say. And today is the day she's expected to announce that final say. And a lot of people are going to be paying attention.
SAVIDGE (voice over): The case of Marshae Jones has become a lightning rod in Alabama and beyond. CROWD: Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.
SAVIDGE: Last December, police say Jones, who was five months pregnant, started a fight with another woman in this parking lot. Authorities say Ebony Jemison shot an unarmed Jones, hitting her in the abdomen, killing her unborn baby. A grand jury handed down an indictment of manslaughter, not against the shooter, but the grieving mother, alleging she was responsible for the death of her fetus by inciting the fight.
The case has outraged abortion rights advocates nationwide who say Alabama puts more value on a fetus than on the rights of the mother.
SHEILA TYSON, THE ORDINARY PEOPLE SOCIETY: How dare you prosecute this young lady. Her life is just that important to us.
[08:40:04] SAVIDGE: Jones' attorneys are challenging the charge, calling the rationale flawed and twisted.
MARK WHITE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: How in the world could you engage in a criminal prosecution, try to charge someone with a crime that carries the maximum sentence of 20 years, and all she was, was the victim.
SAVIDGE: But many here in part do blame the mother for the tragedy.
LORI MCCOWN, LOCAL RESIDENT: It's really just heart wrenching. I believe that if she hadn't approached who she approached, that definitely the baby would be alive today.
TYVIS HOLIDAY, LOCAL RESIDENT: She needs to be charged with something. She did put a child in a dangerous situation.
SAVIDGE (on camera): So you think a lesser crime would be better?
HOLIDAY: A lesser crime, yes.
SAVIDGE (voice over): Whether Jones is prosecuted for a lesser crime, or even at all, now rests in the hands of the Jefferson County District Attorney.
VALERIE HICKS HALE, CHIEF ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, JEFFERSON COUNTY: Whatever decision it is that she makes will be made with fairness, it will be made with equity and it will be made with justice.
CROWD: We shall not be moved.
SAVIDGE: Jones' supporters say they'll be watching to see just what kind of justice Alabama delivers.
CROWD: We've got to fight to make it right. We've got to fight to make it right.
SAVIDGE: The options for the DA are pretty straightforward. She could prosecute on manslaughter, as the charge has already been handed down, or she could go forward with maybe a lesser charge, or she may decide not to prosecute at all. Everybody's going to be waiting to hear what she announces later today.
BERMAN: All right, Martin, we know you'll be there. We're standby for that decision when it comes.
So thunderstorms may steal the spotlight from the Fourth of July fireworks tomorrow in parts of the Midwest and Northeast.
Our meteorologist Chad Myers with the forecast.
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Or they may enhance the fireworks as long as you're inside. Yes, John, there will be some storms around. Not right now. Things have calmed down for the day. There will be a few showers out there for this afternoon, but the temperatures are going to be hot enough and humidity will be high enough that these pop-up thunder showers will be all across the Northeast, the Midwest for tomorrow afternoon.
High temperatures for today, as they say, hot as the Fourth of July, or the third of July. But Ocalla (ph) and the villages and Gainsville, Florida, will feel like 107 degrees today. No relief from a sea breeze. Too far inland there.
For tomorrow, though, 88 in Cincinnati, 91 in D.C. and 88 in New York.
Now, this is the forecast radar for tomorrow. There will be showers around D.C. There will be showers in upstate New York, into Pennsylvania as well, but they won't last a long amount of time. By 8:00, 9:00, there will be showers in D.C., and that's the forecast, all the way through tomorrow's forecast. I don't think we get away in D.C. without at least one or two pop up showers.
Guys, back to you.
CAMEROTA: OK, Chad, thank you very much for the forecast.
MYERS: You're welcome.
CAMEROTA: So, up next, swimmers frolic in the waters off of Florida, unaware of the danger lurking just feet away.
BERMAN: And that's the worst kind of frolicking.
BERMAN: Plus, celebrities get their kicks from the newest viral video. What is John Mayer doing --
CAMEROTA: And why?
BERMAN: And how did he not pull his groin?
[08:47:14] BERMAN: So this Sunday the all new CNN original series "The Movies" will explore American cinema through the decades showcasing the biggest Hollywood stars and most pivotal moments in film that have stirred our imaginations, influenced our culture and shaped our lives. Here's a preview.
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ALAN RUCK, ACTOR, "FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF": My father will come home and he'll see what I did. I can't hide this. He'll come home and he'll see what I did and he'll have to deal with me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He always got deep. I mean even with something like "Ferris Bueller's Day Off," you know, he got deep into that un- Ruck character. And Matthew's character was the wise fool, but Alan Ruck was troubled by this evil father. That was really moving.
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BERMAN: Joining us now is Matthew Broderick.
Matthew, thank you so much for being with us.
You were in two of my favorite films in the '80s, obviously "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" and "War Games."
"Ferris Bueller," why do you think that's had such a lasting impact on all of us?
MATTHEW BRODERICK, ACTOR, "FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF": I don't know that I know why, but I guess people want to have a day off. And that really resonated.
But why it -- why it still lasts today is a wonderful surprise to me.
BERMAN: I've watched "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" with -- I have 12- year-old twin boys -- and we watched together. And I kept on telling them it was one of my favorite movies.
BRODERICK: God help you.
BERMAN: Oh, thank you. I'm surviving so far. And I said, you're going to love it, you're going to love it, and they were watching and they did love it but they kept on looking at me like, you're OK with this? You know, you're OK with truancy? Look at what this guy is doing. Are you telling me this is all OK? It was really interesting to see that reaction to kids these days to what you were putting on the screen then.
BRODERICK: Yes, well, it's a little less -- it would be very hard to disappear like that today, you know, just because of phones. Hey, of course, Ferris Bueller has all these clever ways of tricking everybody, so I'm sure he could -- he could probably do it today, too, somehow.
CAMEROTA: We have a clip from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off," so let's watch a moment of this.
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SINGING: Shake it up, baby. Twist and shout. Twist and shout. Come on, come on, come on, come on baby now. Come on baby. Come on we can work it on out. Work it on out.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CAMEROTA: So that's an awesome moment for all of us to relive and to watch. And I'm just wondering, what do you think when you see yourself dancing and singing and rocking out from the '80s?
BRODERICK: There was like 10,000 people on the streets. Somebody counted it.
[08:50:00] It was infectious, you know. It started out very planned out and it got more and more -- people just -- more and more people showed up and it really did take on its own life sort of as it does in the movie.
BERMAN: Well, that's great. Listen, you've done so many things and you've performed in so many different venues and ways. Do you think that film today in the age of streaming and everything else still can reach the audience in the same way and have the same impact?
BRODERICK: Yes. Yes. I always -- I -- people always think that it's the demise of the theater or the movies and it never seems to happen. People, for thousands of years, have liked -- they like to get together and experience these things. So the way that might change, you might look at a different type of screen or whatever, but essentially I think it's always -- always something that we like to do and to do together.
What I like best is when everybody goes into a dark room together and, you know, sort of catches the feeling from the people around them and experiences it together. That's what I like best. But that seems to still have a place.
CAMEROTA: For sure. And, Matthew Broderick, we really appreciate you taking this trip down memory lane with us.
BRODERICK: Thank you.
CAMEROTA: Great to talk to you. Great to see all of those old clips again.
And be sure to tune in. The all new CNN original series "The Movies" premieres this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. only on CNN.
BERMAN: Now check out this video. A news helicopter in Florida captured sharks swimming just a few feet away from people --
BERMAN: This is in Daytona Beach. The swimmers had no idea they were this close to the sharks until they were shown the video. Florida's head shark researcher says that black tip sharks like these do swim in shallower water --
CAMEROTA: Good to know.
BERMAN: Hunting for bait fish, but generally -- generally -- generally mind their own business.
CAMEROTA: Oh, then what am I worried about? They mind their own business.
CAMEROTA: They mind their own business and it's fine.
BERMAN: Yes, no, there's nothing fine about that.
CAMEROTA: All right, first there was the ice bucket challenge. Now the bottle cap challenge. That's become the latest viral trend. The idea is to spin kick the cap --
BERMAN: That's John Mayer.
CAMEROTA: Off a bottle without knocking the bottle over. Now, this was started by mixed martial artist Max Holoway (ph), who then challenged singer/songwriter John Mayer, you're right, John, who is doing it, I think, really well there. Then action star Jason Satham (ph).
BERMAN: He's in "The Meg" (ph).
BERMAN: A great movie, "The Meg." Best movie about oversized sharks I've ever seen.
CAMEROTA: Oh -- oh, I see, there's a theme.
And UFC fighter Connor McGregor follow suit. Now others are taking part in the challenge with far more mixed results.
BERMAN: I have to be completely honest with you, I don't understand why.
CAMEROTA: Well, hold on, don't you want to see the mixed results first?
BERMAN: Well, sure.
CAMEROTA: Because our associate producer, Jorge, tried to do it. So let's watch him. That's not him. Here we go. This is him in our office. Let's see if he can do it. In our office, NEW DAY offices. OK, he did it.
BERMAN: Yes, take that John Mayer.
CAMEROTA: That was fantastic. Take that John Mayer.
BERMAN: I think that John Mayer trained for -- for weeks.
CAMEROTA: That's not a mixed result. That's a fantastic result.
BERMAN: That is a fantastic result.
CAMEROTA: Hey, what's this?
BERMAN: That is a --
CAMEROTA: The horizon?
BERMAN: A blank wall.
CAMEROTA: That's the horizon.
Is something bad going to happen here?
Oh, wait a minute, that's also not a mixed result.
BERMAN: That's great.
CAMEROTA: I feel we oversold that mixed result part.
BERMAN: No, I think it was a great -- it was a great result.
BERMAN: All right. So, Ivanka Trump, as far as we know has not tried this yet, but she is everywhere, when we come back.
[08:57:37] CAMEROTA: So there was a lot of scrutiny over Ivanka Trump's role at the G-20 Summit. Here's Jeanne Moos' take.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): From landing on the moon, to landing with the pilgrims, Ivanka Trump has been everywhere lately thanks to a video showing a moment when the president's daughter tried to join a conversation with heavyweight said like the leaders of France and Britain at the G-20 Summit.
THERESA MAY, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: A lot of people start listening who wouldn't otherwise listen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
IVANKA TRUMP, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DAUGHTER: And the same -- MOOS: Resulting in awkward body language that some read as what's she doing here, and thus was born #unwantedivanka, crashing the last supper, joining Yoko Ono and John in bed, walking across Abbey Road with The Beetles, barging in on Nixon and Elvis.
The meme rocked Twitter as Ivanka sat atop a beam with construction workers, and spied on a royal wedding kiss.
It was the French government that posted the video snippet that inspired the meme. But now the French are saying, oops, selling "Politico," we didn't anticipate the reaction. We are not responsible for the use made of the clip. How would they know Ivanka would end up amid Egyptian hieroglyphics clinging to the Loch Ness Monster, at risk of being kicked by U.S. soccer star Meghan Rapinoe, adrift with Jack and Rose after the sinking of the Titanic.
LEONARDO DECAPRIO, ACTOR, "TITANIC": You must promise me that you'll survive.
MOOS: #unwanted Ivanka has survived for days. The White House blamed Ivanka haters, telling "Vanity Fair" they were absolutely pathetic.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Has anyone ever heard of Ivanka?
MOOS: It had been a high profile trip for the president's daughter. She even made North Korean TV. After Korea, she made stops everywhere, from "Brokeback Mountain" to Mount Rushvanka, transported by bike like E.T. And like E.T., Ivanka took off. She was even spotted in O.J.s Bronco, #unwantedivanka riding with a wanted man.
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
CAMEROTA: Ah, the creativity of Twitter. Never ceases to amaze me.
[09:00:00] BERMAN: Look, there was E.T. E.T. was the favorite.
CAMEROTA: I didn't see that one coming.
BERMAN: It was good.
CAMEROTA: All right, everyone, have a wonderful holiday. I'll see you tomorrow. Have a great weekend.
BERMAN: Yes, I'm not going to be here.
CAMEROTA: I know.