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Trump Says Immigration Raids to Start Soon Across Country; CBP Agent Accused of Publicly Shaming Migrant Man; U.S. Adds 224,000 Jobs in June Beating Expectations; Search Teams Find Body of Missing Utah College Student; Parents of Otto Warmbier File Claim for Seized North Korean Cargo Ship; CNN's "THE MOVIES Premieres This Sunday Night. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired July 5, 2019 - 15:30   ET



BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: President Trump says raids on undocumented immigrants will get underway soon across the country. The move comes after he postponed those sweeping raids planned for ten major cities last weekend. The President granted a two-week delay to see if Congress would reach an agreement on immigration reform. But with Congress on recess through next week, the President now says the mass roundups are back on. Just as long as you don't call them raids.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, I don't call them raids, I say they came in illegally. And we're bringing them out legally. These are people where we have the papers, we've gone through the court system. They'll be starting fairly soon. But I don't call them raids.


BALDWIN: CNN's Natasha Chen is live in El Paso outside one of those Border Patrol stations. And Natasha, what else did the President say about the situation at the border?

NATASHA CHEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, President Trump responded to the past week and more of reports of really poor conditions inside these detention facilities where migrants are being held including one report from an internal watchdog over the past week talking about dangerous overcrowding, lack of basic food, hygiene, and laundry facilities for the migrants. And of course that follows other reports about similar situations in west Texas facilities. Now CNN crews have gotten to go inside a couple of these facilities but never with cameras, only pen and paper.

And during those visits, our colleagues have observed sanitized conditions and resources for the migrants but, of course, these reports and visits by watch dogs, by lawmakers continue to come back showing that these are not places designed to hold this many migrants. Here's what the President had to say about that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: When people come in illegally and then it's crowded, and I've seen some of those places. And they are run beautifully. They're clean. They're good. They do a great job. They do a great job. They're crowded because the Democrats will not give us any relief from these loopholes. We have loopholes that are so bad, we have asylum that is so bad. So these places are, many of them, not all of them, but many of them, they're incredible. They're really well run.


CHEN: Now recently the House and Senate passed a $4.6 billion bill to send resources immediately to the border to address some of the issues here. That was signed about President on Monday, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Let me ask you about something. Now, we've had some CNN exclusive reporting coming from a Border Patrol agent calling out colleagues they say were humiliating a migrant from Honduras. Can you tell me more about that?

CHEN: Yes. Well, our colleague, Nick Valencia, received some e-mails that's show that one Border Patrol agent witnessed an incident, this is in early March where he observed his co-workers inside one of the facilities handing a handwritten note to a Honduran migrant. And the note said in Spanish, I like men, as this person, as this migrant was made to hold that sign and was paraded through the facility potentially with an intent to humiliate him. Now through these e- mails we're seeing that this particular agent who witnessed all of this approached his colleagues, told them in it was unprofessional.

But the e-mails show this is potentially one of several incidents like this of unprofessional or poor behavior and lack of response from management. Now a CBP official did tell CNN that this is being forwarded to the Office of Professional Responsibility as they're in charge of hooking into this allegation, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Natasha Chen, thank you. And of course, thanks to Nick Valencia and all his work he's done along the border there. We are minutes from the closing bell. Take a quick check of the big board. On a day where we saw strong jobs numbers. The President, of course, celebrating those numbers and then goes after the fed chair.

Again. And later, heartbreaking development in the case of a missing college student in Utah. Police in Salt Lake now say they have found MacKenzie Lueck's body. Hear what we have learned about the suspect.


BALDWIN: The U.S. jobs report exceeding expectations today. The economy adding 224,000 jobs in the month of June, a strong come back for the labor market after a disappointing May. 335,000 people also entered the labor force last month. That is substantially more than usual. The unemployment rate did rise slightly to 3.7 percent, the highest level since March. That number is still historically low. Rick Newman is a columnist for Yahoo! Finance. And the author of "Rebounders, how winners pivot from setback to success." So thanks for coming in on a holiday week with me. Your biggest takeaways?

[15:40:00] RICK NEWMAN, COLUMNIST FOR YAHOO! FINANCE, AND AUTHOR OF "REBOUNDERS, HOW WINNERS PIVOT FROM SETBACK TO SUCCESS": Good report. Really not much to complain about at all. As you pointed out, much higher than economists were expecting. There had been concerns about a slowdown in manufacturing based on some survey data that we've seen. That didn't really show up. And I think economists have been expecting to see weakness in manufacturing because of the Trump tariffs which are raising costs for manufacturers.

You might think that they'd be less likely to hire if they're unsure about what is happening. That did not show up in this report. There were 17,000 new manufacturing jobs. Wages were a little bit weaker than they could have been going up 3.1 percent year over year. But really this is really a very strong report.

BALDWIN: Tell me about the notes you have in your hand because you did some comparisons.

NEWMAN: I've been tracking the Trump economy versus six prior Presidents and especially President Obama. So how does this compare to job creation for President Obama? During his second term, he averaged 217,000 new jobs and in his last year 207,000 new jobs per month. Trump has averaged 194,000 new jobs so far and this year that has actually slowed to 172,000. We are seeing a slowdown in the labor market. And that actually makes sense. That is what you expect to see this late in a business expansion.

One thing that has been a little bit better under Trump is wage growth has better since we got from 2016, 2017 last year was a little stronger. I think it peaked at 3.4 percent year over year. And now it's back down 3.5 percent. That's OK.

BALDWIN: I wanted to ask about interest rates. Because the President also took more shots at the Federal Reserve chair today. And, of course, wanting them to lower the interest rates. So here was the President.


TRUMP: If we had a fed that would lower interest rates, we'd be like a rocket ship. But we're paying a lot of interest and it's unnecessary. But we don't have a fed that knows what they're doing. So it's one of those little things. But if we had a fed that would lower rates, you would have a rocket ship.


BALDWIN: Again, we've been hearing this from the President. He wants to lower rates. Do you think today's jobs numbers mean it will be more difficult to do


NEWMAN: Yes. And that's why are seeing markets react a little bit negatively today because, I mean most economists think the fed knows what it's doing. You could argue they went a little bit too far last year, maybe raised by like a quarter of a point more than they should have. But that's not a lot. So now they have signaled that if incoming data looks weak and there are troubles to worry about. Yes, the fed will lower the interest rates. Bu when you have 224,000 new jobs per month. I mean that's a great number and the unemployment rate is at 3.7 percent. As you said historically low.

It's hard to imagine the fed will lower interest rates under that scenario. So markets want lower rates because that makes money a little bit cheaper, it makes people a little bit more willing to buy stocks. The debate now is well, the fed has signaled they might do it, but they're probably not going to do it at their July meeting. So maybe it will happen in September. It's a very interesting problem. Because interest rates are really low already. So the fed is just not going to get much bang for the buck by lowering much more.

BALDWIN: Despite what the President says over and over?

NEWMAN: He is hectoring the fed, he is a tariff man and he is a low interest rate man. So we'll see if he gets what he wants.

BALDWIN: Rick Newman, thank you very much.

NEWMAN: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Now I want to take a moment to honor this week's CNN Hero. Carry Brodie is helping refugees get closer to American dream with a culinary jobs training program.


KERRY BRODIE, FOUNDER, EMMA'S TOUCH: What we're teaching our students isn't just knife skills and it isn't just cooking. It's the idea that you are human and you have value. And that's something that people have tried to strip away from others for such a long time.

What is the dream team cooking up?


BRODIE: Samba cake. Awesome.

(voice-over): That experience of watching our students transform, of seeing our students really come into their own inspires me.


BALDWIN: We love hearing stories like these. You can nominate someone you think should be our next CNN Hero. Go We'll be right back.


BALDWIN: We have some breaking news now in the case of missing University of Utah student, MacKenzie Lueck. Police say investigators have now found her body. They recovered her remains Wednesday in a canyon north of Salt Lake City. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHIEF MIKE BROWN, SALT LAKE CITY POLICE: In the wake of this tragic, tragic incident, I am relieved and grief stricken to report that we have recovered MacKenzie Lueck from Logan Canyon. I spoke with MacKenzie's family this morning. Another devastating call. Despite their grief, we hope this will help them find some closure and justice for MacKenzie.


BALDWIN: A suspect has been arrested in Lueck's disappearance. He faces, disappearance -- he faces murder and kidnapping charges and CNN's Ryan Young is with me with more details. How absolutely awful for this family. What more have police divulged?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, no, really some tough details to learn. And these new facts must be just super difficult for MacKenzie's family. We learned today that police found the remains of the young woman's body just 23 years old, this all started on June 17th when the University of Utah student texted parents to say she made it back to Salt Lake City where she landed at the airport.

Then according to police, she took a Lyft to a park before she disappeared. Then through some digital detective work, they found two phones pinging in that same park around 3:00 a.m. and the detectives turned their attention to Ayoola Ajayi at his house. There when they go there, they talked to neighbors who said they something maybe burning in the backyard. The believe it was gasoline being used.

Police tell us they did found some grim evidence at the house, charred materials that we are told they believe is human tissue. And of course, we know today we know they found a body. Now, Brooke, all the questions about how did the two get connected? What's the motive? How was the communication? None of that has been talked about so far. The other part about this, you have neighbors in that neighborhood who say up until this point, they really didn't think he was a bad guy.

In fact he had an Airbnb in back of his house and apparently people had been coming there. His mother has talked about the fact, he was a very good son, what else do you expect a mom to say, but at this point so many people have questions about exactly how he ended up here. Now there was one contractor who came forward who said he wanted to build like a secret room and got a bad feeling about building the room so he didn't build it.

But as of right now, when you have this information coming out, about a body being found and then some of the material being burned in the backyard, there are so many questions that we still haven't got answered just yet and of course police are still building this. But you could see, not only the emotional but the physical toll that it is taking on detectives and police officers at this news conference. Brooke, this is really shaking people because obviously you have a student who vanished and then you have this fatal ending that so many people are just heartbroken about.

BALDWIN: Awful. Ryan Young, thank you for the update and new details.

Got an update now for you from the parents of Otto Warmbier that American college student who was detained in North Korea and returned to his parents comatose, he later died after being awarded the $500 million judgment against the North Korea government, Fred and Cindy Warmbier are now filing a claim for a North Korean cargo ship that as seized by the United States this past May for assets to pay off part of the judgment.

The Warmbier's say quote: "We are committed to holding North Korea accountable for the death of our son Otto and we will work tirelessly to seize North Korean assets wherever they may be found."

Coming up next here on CNN, Senator Kamala Harris turns in nearly $12 million in fundraising in the second quarter. It's about $9 million shy of what Joe Biden's team raised who of course she's been sparring with since last week's debate.


BALDWIN: This Sunday the all new CNN original series "THE MOVIES" will explore American films through the decades showcasing the most pivotal moments that have influenced our culture and shaped our lives including the 1980s cult classic "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." Here is a clip from the series.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was so much reality in the script of "Fast Times" and the way Cameron wrote "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" is that he went back to high school.

CAMERON CROWE, DIRECTOR: I never graduated traditionally. So the idea was I could go back and have the senior year that I didn't have and write about what it is to be a high school student.

I learned so much. The pop culture establishment, they don't know what's happening with kids right now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE ACTOR: Stacy, what are you waiting for? You're 15 years old?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE ACTOR: I did it when I was 13. It is no huge thing. It is just sex.

CROWE: These kids are having a super short adolescence and having sex years before you know they're having sex. And they're all working. It's fast food, it's fast adolescence, it is all disposable and what are we doing to a generation that has to be adult at a younger and younger age?


BALDWIN: And guess who I get to talk to. Judge Reinhold who played Brad Hamilton in "Fast Times", Judge, thanks for being with me.


BALDWIN: So I mean, this film, total cult classic. Why do you think it has such staying power, like why do you think it resonates even for teens today?

REINHOLD: Well, it's like Cameron said in the clip, the origin of the material I think is one reason why it holds up. Because just kind of to push a point, he wasn't wearing a wire, he masqueraded as a senior in high school, he was at the request of "Rolling Stone" wanted an expose on what it was like to be a high school student n the early '80s. And so he didn't wear a wire, but he wrote everything and sometimes he would hear a great riff and run into the boys' room and write it down.

A lot of the dialogue, good percentage of the dialog from the movie actually was said. So I think that has something to do with why it keeps resonating. Because of the origin of the material.

BALDWIN: So that's "Fast Times." When I found out I got to talk to you, one of my favorite movies of all time forever and ever is "Beverly Hills Cop".

REINHOLD: Thank you.

BALDWIN: And I laughed and laughed and laughed. I mean your scenes with Eddie Murphy in his trademark -- I won't even do it but people know. You could hear it. What was it like doing those movies, what was it like working with him?

REINHOLD: He was so comfortable improvising. My origins were theatrical so I stuck to the script. I mean I was loose enough but I had no idea he was a tsunami of comic invention.

BALDWIN: Can you tell me a story. Can you tell me a story of when he's zigged and you had to zag?

REINHOLD: Oh, well, Yes. It was fun because I got used to reacting to him, but if you ever see the movie again, whenever I put my hands in my pockets, I'm intentionally creating pain for myself because I can't blow the take. He's -- he's just fabulous and so what my partner John Ashton, he'd go like this -- and I would just put my hands in my pockets and I go home with like bruises.

BALDWIN: Judge, thank you. Again "THE MOVIES" premieres Sunday night 9:00 and if you are in New York City, come join me over here at Hudson Yards --