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Iran Accuses United States of "Economic Terrorism"; CNN Gets Rare Access to U.S. Patrol Ship in the Gulf; U.S. Increasing Military Presence in Gulf; Trump Approves Sen. Paul Negotiation with Iran; Interview with Ghassan Salame, U.N. Special Envoy to Libya, Libya on the Verge of Civil War; Film Offers Insight into Life in Aleppo; War Photographer Goes Inside Libya's Battle for Tripoli. Aired 11a-12p ET
Aired July 18, 2019 - 11:00 ET
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MOHAMMAD JAVAD ZARIF, IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: -- security targeting innocent civilians to achieve a legitimate political objectives.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: Iran's foreign minister appealing to the United Nations as U.S. maximum pressure policies extend to Iranian diplomats in
Plus, more on how the U.S. is beefing up its military presence in the Gulf, including at a base in Saudi Arabia.
And on the verge of a full-blown civil war, we hear from the United Nations envoy to Libya about what needs to be done now to stop it.
Well hello and welcome, you're watching CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson, live from Abu Dhabi. Where we begin tonight in the Gulf where
escalating tensions have taken this region and the world to the brink.
As the world watches these waterways, CNN is being granted incredibly rare access to a U.S. patrol ship, the USS BOXER. We get an insider's view of
the military might behind Washington's efforts to keep the shipping routes open for business. Sam Kylie just back from being embedded on the USS
BOXER. And he joins me now here in Abu Dhabi -- San.
SAM KILEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, well, Becky, we were there, just got back late last night in the run-up to a -- it's not an
unusual event, but in the context, a highly tense event. Which is a transition of the USS Boxer, which is the center of an amphibious invasion
force, essentially, through the extremely tense Straits of Hormuz. Which, of course, have been the center of so much recent attention. There are one
or two glitches I'm told. Viewers shouldn't adjust their sets quite yet. Let's take a look.
KILEY (voice-over): It's all entirely routine, until it's not. A U.S. Marine expeditionary force at the ready, while world leaders wrestle with
the tangled question, what to do about Iran. At the center of events, the USS Boxer on its way to already tense Straits of Hormuz.
CAPTAIN RONALD DOWDELL, COMMANDING OFFICER, USS BOXER: Anything that's asked of us that can make the situation, the geopolitical situation more
stable. They're chomping at the bit to kind of get after it.
KILEY: The U.S. has blamed Iran for alleged mine attacks on six oil tankers in this region this year. Iran denied responsibility but is
furious at the U.S. withdrawal from a deal to lift sanctions in return for suspending its nuclear program.
In June, President Trump called off air strikes in retaliation for the downing of a drone by Iran over the Straits of Hormuz. The USS Boxer is
technically an amphibious assault ship. What that really means is that it's an aircraft carrier packed with U.S. Marines. A means by which the
United States can project real muscle, real power, sending an unmistakable signal in this region right now.
And a routine transit to protect shipping lanes through the Straits that bringing a ship this size, carrying 1,500 Marines with the site of Iran's
coast will inevitably be seen as provocative in Tehran. A small error as the Boxer threads through the Straits could spell disaster.
(on camera): When these sort of operations are going on, I mean, there is a potential for a strategic effect from a small error.
BRIG. GEN. MATTHEW G. TROLLINGER, COMMANDER TASK FORCE 51/5: That's absolutely accurate. And all the training we do, all the education that we
do, is the express purpose of getting after that.
KILEY (voice-over): Iran's leaders say they want to keep the Nuclear Deal alive and the U.S. to end trade sanctions that are crippling its economy.
They see the U.S. presence here as potentially explosive.
ZARIF: The United States is intervening in order to make these waters insecure for Iran. You cannot make these waters insecure for one country
and secure for others. You cannot simply disregard a possibility of a disaster. But we all need to work in order to avoid one.
KILEY: The Boxer's flotilla got through the Straits without a hitch. Its air squadron keeping watch overhead has a nickname that coincidentally how
Iran and the U.S. see each other. Evil eyes.
KILEY: Now, Becky, we've just been in touch with the Boxer. They did get through. They did get some attention, as always as expected from IRGC
[11:05:00] But nothing what is described as unsafe. And frankly, on board ship, they also said that that would be the sort of attention they would
give foreign vessels coming that close to American soil, for example. So they're very keen to distinguish between normal activity and abnormal
activity. There has, of course, been abnormal activity recently but moving a flotilla of that level of power through that sea scape, I think is
significant but significant that it didn't seem to raise tensions.
ANDERSON: Isn't it interesting? But as your report suggested, this could easily be seen as provocative, as far as Iran is concerned. The U.S. can
argue -- and it does --that they are preparing for any eventuality, as they are or reported to be doing so with troops in Saudi at present.
KILEY: Yes, so we've got now announced, it's not an extra 500 troops. We now know, if you recall, the Americans announced a couple of months back,
they were sending an extra thousand troops to the region. We know that 500 are now going to what appears to be evolving air base perhaps or some kind
of base not very far from Riyadh. Interestingly kind of beyond they believe the range of some Iranian missiles. So that is definitely odd
event they're taking. Also part of the diplomatic reassurance the Americans giving to their allies at a time with the Gulf nations are very
jittery about this tension between the U.S. and Iran
ANDERSON: And they clearly have cause for concern. We have seen Iranian tankers -- sorry, tankers targeted in the Arabian Gulf. We have seen
drones hitting installations in Saudi. Coming back to the Iranian Gulf, I just want to clear up one thing that's been sort of doing the rounds today.
Iran itself saying that it has seized, as they describe it, a foreign oil tanker. Now, we need to be very careful about what we report as issues and
incidents which have clearly got a political cloak and those that might not, as it were.
KILEY: There's quite a lot of spin around at this time. So for example, the State Department put out a message saying that they condemn the seizure
of this vessel without acknowledging whether or not it's a police operation. Which is what the Iranians claim. Nor indeed even naming the
vessel. We got back to them saying, can you name it? Do you know what it is?
In this visceral atmosphere, it's these sorts of comments that can raise tensions perhaps unnecessarily at a time when the information loop is
sometimes quite slow. What we know or understand from Iranian authorities, for their part of the story, that they have seized a foreign vessel. They
haven't named it. It's not very big. It sounds big but a million liters of fuel is not a lot in this region.
It was seized just inside the Straits of Hormuz and it's suspected of being involved in some kind of smuggling operation. That would be a situation
that's also reflective of what a country has people exploit within a country that's under sanctions. As soon as sanctions are imposed, bad guys
get busy. There's lot of money to be made busting sanctions. Maybe this bunch of have fallen fowl with the wrong people in Iran.
ANDERSON: Bad guys like maximum pressure, right?
Thank you, Sam. Sam's been busy. We're taking a very short break.
Iran's foreign minister though and what he had to say at the United Nations up next. Leaders pushing for a political solution to the crisis in Libya.
I spoke to the U.N. special envoy. That interview also ahead this hour. Stay with us.
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ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with Becky Anderson. It's 7:10 in the UAE.
The Iranian Foreign Minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, will meet with the U.N. Secretary General just hours from now. He gave, that is Zarif gave a
blistering speech at the U.N. on Wednesday accusing the United States of waging, quote, economic terrorism against his country. He said U.S.
sanctions on Iran are illegal and represent, quote, the greatest threat to the achievement of Iran's sustainable development goals. That was his
audience, by the way.
Right now Zarif along with every other Iranian diplomat out in the States can go well almost nowhere while they are there. Let me give you a quick
tour of the few places that they can go. First, to the United Nations headquarters. A stone's throw away there's their permanent mission to the
U.N. A few blocks uptown on the fringes of Central Park, the Iranian ambassador to the U.N.'s residence. And in the whole of Manhattan, well,
that's it, three places. Across the bridge, they've been given a six-block radius near the waterfront in Queens. It's unclear why that's the case but
there is apparently a school there popular with diplomats' kids. Lastly, they are allowed to go out to JFK airport. There's not a lot to do there,
but leave, of course.
Well, let's bring in Robin Wright. An expert on Iran and the Middle East whose known Foreign Minister Zarif for more than three decades. In fact,
she just spoke with him before joining us on the show. She is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Center and a contributing writer for the "New Yorker".
You've just spoken with Zarif. What did he tell you?
ROBIN WRIGHT, FELLOW, WOODROW WILSON CENTER: One of the striking things is that there's an enormous amount of tension. A lot of angry rhetoric that's
coming both from Washington and Tehran. But there is a sense that there is beginning some kind of movement to try to break the impasse. To try to
make sure that the tensions do not escalate and do not lead to some kind of kinetic operation or military confrontation.
And I think that's reflected in the reports of Rand Paul being dubbed as an emissary to deal with the Iranians. I think it's reflected in some of the
ideas that Foreign Minister Zarif is putting out there in terms of how could they accommodate some of the issues the United States have. While
also dealing with Iranian concerns, particularly on the lifting of sanctions. So they're at a very opening stage but the mere fact that
anything is happening, I think, is one of the first hopeful signs we've had in a very long time.
ANDERSON: You bring up Rand Paul. I'm interested to get your thoughts how he might operate with regard with the Iranians. I mean, he's no John
Kerry. How would you describe him and how do you expect him to cope with any potential discussions on negotiations? After all, we still do know
that Donald Trump has said the door is open, the Iranians haven't said they're willing to talk yet.
WRIGHT: That's true. Rand Paul has always been his own man when it comes to foreign policies, a little bit like Lindsey Graham. Difference on
different issues but he has always spoken his mind. And President Trump is also his own diplomat. Whatever the advice from his National Security
Adviser, John Bolton, he's often acted in his own way.
I mean, you know, he came very close to doing a second deal with Kim Jong- un. It was only the last minute that Bolton convinced him that it wasn't the best deal for the United States and Trump walked away. But Trump's
instincts were to do it.
[11:15:00] And so the fact that the President still says he's willing to do a deal with the Iranians, that he's willing to talk to the Iranians,
despite what John Bolton, who is the deepest most outspoken hawk within the administration. I think, again, indicates that there is at least a crack
in the door.
ANDERSON: All right. Robin, in the meantime, I just want to talk about these U.S. travel restrictions that the Iranians are under. Zarif himself
confined to the immediate area around the United Nations in midtown Manhattan. He said the Iranian diplomats and their families are, and I
quote him here. Living in basically inhuman conditions in New York and civilians are suffering back home. Let's have a listen.
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ZARIF: Our people are also subjected to the most brutal form of economic terrorism. Deliberately targeting innocent civilians to achieve
illegitimate political objectives. The unlawful extraterritorial economic sanctions imposed on Iran by the United States in violation of Security
Council Resolution 2231 represent the greatest threat to the achievement of sustainable development goes up Iran and many of our neighbors.
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ANDERSON: And you could argue, Robin, that these travel restrictions on Iranians in New York now as part of the diplomatic mission there, part of
what he described as economic terrorism, perhaps he would argue that. Certainly, part of the sort of maximum pressure campaign. They seem to be
the harshest place on any diplomat, more than Cuba, North Korea, any country my team was looking at. Any country in the past. Is this just way
too much at this point?
WRIGHT: Well, the administration's made clear until there is some kind of breakthrough or some kind of agreement, that they will continue to up the
cost. And I don't think this is the last kind of pressure we're going to see whether it's the big things in terms of sanctioning or the small things
in limiting the physical ability of Iranian diplomats to move around New York City. It's striking that you can't even go out to dinner under Zarif
while he's in New York under these terms. He made the point this morning of saying, well, it's not like he's going to Broadway away anyway. But,
yes, I think that it's going to make it harder. And that's the message and that is one of the tools, one of the many tools in President Trump's tool
ANDERSON: Robin, pleasure to have you on. Make time for us again, please. This story is not going away. Thank you.
WRIGHT: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Well I want to bring your attention to Libya now. Where the death toll is mounting in a conflict that has been almost forgotten by the
rest of the world. Now an urgent warning from U.N. officials who say Libya could be on the verge of a full-blown civil war. One that would not only
devastate the country for years to come but have massive implications for the world around it.
In a moment, I'm going to speak to the man trying to rally the global community into action. But first, I want to remind you just how we got
here. And a warning, this next report does contain some disturbing images.
ANDERSON (voice-over): Libya, once one of Africa's richest nations and a leader in the Arab world now stuck in a state of chaos. It's been eight
years since Muammar Gaddafi was ousted and killed in a Western and Arab backed uprising against his rule. But what was seen as a moment of hope
has spiraled into a grinding conflict. Pitting two main factions against each other.
On the one side, there's the Government of National Accord, or the GNA led by the Prime Minister Fayez al-Sarraj. It that controls the capital,
Tripoli and the western part of the country. It's backed by the U.N.
The east is controlled by General Khalifa Haftar and his Libyan National Army or the LNA. He has some significant international support. Allegedly
getting weapons and cash from key allies in the Gulf and North Africa. At one time, the general even took a call from Donald Trump.
And in the back fueled between them, multiple tribes of swaying allegiance and militant groups like ISIS vying for control. In November, finally, a
breakthrough. The rival leaders agreeing to meet, but the prospect of peace quickly dashed. In April, General Haftar launched an attack on
[11:20:00] The World Health Organization estimates that more than 1,000 people have been killed in the clashes since. The bloody campaigns have
forced tens of thousands of families to flee their homes. Some deciding to make the perilous journey across the Mediterranean in search of a better
life. Its estimated thousands have drowned trying and it's not only Libyans. The instability has turned Libya into a migration corridor for
the continent. So close to Europe, it's a popular but often deadly checkpoint for those willing to risk a trip across the sea. Before they
do, they're often caught up in Libya's bloody battle.
In early July, an air strike killed more than 50 people at this migrant detention center in Tripoli. While world powers call for a political
solution, the conflict, for now, shows no signs of slowing.
ANDERSON: Well, my next guests are trying to almost single handedly, it seems, rally world powers into action. U.N. special envoy to Libya,
Ghassan Salame, recently had this warning. Libya is on the verge of descending into a civil war which could lead to the permanent division of
the country. The damage already done will take years to mend, and that is only if the war is ended now.
Mr. Salame, that was two months ago. We have seen further violence since you spoke those words. How concerned are you that things could get a whole
GHASSAN SALAME, U.N. SPECIAL ENVOY TO LIBYA (via Skype): I'm concerned. I'm concerned with the number of people killed. Who are now 1,100 people
killed. And I'm concerned about those injured and the many thousands. I'm concerned about the hundreds of thousands of people who have lost their
homes or left their homes, at least. I'm also concerned with the fact that the arms embargo imposed on this country has blatantly and repeatedly
violated by a number of countries.
I'm also concerned because the Security Council has met five or six times since the beginning of this war and was unable to come to a unified
position. So all of these are symptoms of a situation that is not very promising. But I keep being (INAUDIBLE) to sort of reestablish a minimum
of unity among the countries involved in the Libyan crisis and that's why I have been in touch or visiting a number of these countries. I came back
today from the UAE. I was recently in France and Germany and some other countries, Italy. Before that, because my intention is to try and restore
the minimum of unity in the national community without which it's very hard to think of the de-escalation with the conflict in the country.
ANDERSON: I understand. All right. Well, let's just have a look at what has been going on. Because as you rightly say, you've just got back from
the UAE. You've been doing a tour of other European countries. We understand that there are a myriad of stake holders here. There has been
an international call for a cease-fire in Libya. Egypt, France, Italy, the UAE, the U.K. and the U.S. released this joint statement earlier in the
week. It reads, and I quote.
We call for an immediate de-escalation and halt to the current fighting and urge the prompt return to the U.N. mediated political process. There can
be no military solution in Libya.
Great, but it goes on to say.
We call on all member states to prevent destabilizing arms shipments to Libya.
Herein, sir, lies the issue. Some of the very states who signed up to this statement are alleged to be amongst those sending arms and materials to
both sides in direct violation of U.N. arms embargo. Do you see evidence that these countries -- the countries on this statement and others are
willing to stop fueling this conflict and are prepared support sanctions on those who persist?
SALAME: I believe the key here is in the assessment. And the assessment is that your proxy can still win the war militarily. It's very hard for
you to stop supporting him with money, with weapons, with diplomatic support.
[11:25:00] If your assessment is that after three months of fighting, soon four months of fighting around Tripoli, the military situation remains a
state of stalemate where nobody is in a position to really impose itself militarily. Then you may think again and say, well, am I investing in the
right cause? And that's where we are now. I feel that many of the countries who have been supporting either side in the conflict have come to
be much more realistic in their assessment of the situation on the ground. A situation we have --
ANDERSON: Are you prepared to call out those who -- let's name those countries, shall we? Can you name them?
SALAME: Well there is a list of countries that have been supporting each of the two sides. But I should say also that a lot of the weapons used in
the battle are still from Kaddafi's arsenal, which were huge and like millions of pieces of weapons have gone into the hands of the population.
So the new weapons are only adding to this already heavily infested country with weapons. In the wrong hands.
ANDERSON: In early April, sir, you were preparing a major national conference that would chart the way for a peaceful solution. You had talks
between Sarraj and General Haftar here in Abu Dhabi just back in February. General Haftar who was aware of these preparations, then decided to attack
Tripoli. How damaging were his actions then and how much blame should he now take for the situation on the ground as it is today?
SALAME: I don't believe the U.N. should become a factory for blame. But I can tell you one thing. The momentum was there so was the political
settlement before the war started. Indeed, on the 27th of February, an understanding had been reached between Sarraj and Haftar throughout our
mediation. Was a number of important points that had been matters of contention between the two before and they were agreed upon.
And on the 14th of April, we had invited 156 Libyans from all the political spectrum to come and meet in Gadamis, in the western part of the country,
in order to come with the national government on which they all agree. And out of 156 people invited, we had 156 acceptances. That is why the sort of
shortcut into the military solution ended up being not a shortcut but in fact an impasse, a stalemate. And that is why --
ANDERSON: Yes, I understand that. I understand that. Let me just put this to you. Because I think we are recognizing that that assault on
Tripoli was extremely damaging to the prospect for peace. After Haftar assault on Tripoli, Donald Trump publicly endorsed the general in a phone
call praising him for fighting terrorism and securing oil resources, whether or not the point was to try to get him to return to reconciliation.
Did that tacit support for General Haftar hinder your efforts towards peace?
SALAME: Well again, this is not up to me to sort of devise what the American policies should be in Libya. What I am happy with is the fact
that during the past two or three weeks, especially after I had met with Secretary Pompeo, and that members of the mission have been doing a lot of
work on an operational level in Washington in the past few days, I can say, one, there is a new interest to know more about what's happening in Libya.
Second, there is still concentration on counterterrorism. But there is a new interest we have been calling for the political process. Because the
best way to fight terrorism is not through drones. It is by building a national authority that takes care of terrorism over the country it's
supposed to rule.
ANDERSON: I understand. I hear what you're saying.
SALAME: I sense a new feeling in Washington into this state action and I am going to cultivate that intensely in the next few days.
[11:30:00] ANDERSON: I'm interested to hear that. I know you've been in this job now for two years. I think this is the first time I've heard you
talk about an interest or at least a new interest from the U.S. when many people say policy on Libya, quite frankly, very, very confused. And those
who see the U.S., of course, for once, perhaps, as a neutral broker who may actually be able to make a difference in this situation.
Let's just have -- listen to what Frederick Wehrey, hang on, sir. Let me put this to you. Libya expert, Frederick Wehrey, explains what's going on
in Libya like this.
The current fighting is partly the outcome of exclusionary politics, economic corruption and unresolved social fractures stemming back to the
aftermath of the 2011 revolution. Since that time, he says, Libya's elites and militia bosses have scrambled for economic and political spoils to the
detriment of Libya's citizens, he says. And he goes on to say, a mix of difference in interference by international and regional states have
brought Libya to this point.
I wonder how much responsibility you think Libyan -- the Libyan elite knows who have, as you have described it, benefitted from the fog of war. How
much responsibility do they bear for the current situation?
SALAME: A very large one. And I am frank with them and I tell this to them and I tell it to you today. To a large extent, the war on Libya is a
war for resources and the war for positions is meant basically as an introduction to resources. And that is why thinking, some serious thinking
-- and we have been doing that in the U.N. mission -- about a better, a fair redistribution of the oil is absolutely necessary for any political
agreement to succeed. You cannot think in the economy, the oil economy like the Libyan one that you can come to a political solution without
addressing the crucial issue of the fair redistribution of the oil revenue.
ANDERSON: And with that, sir. We're going to have to leave it there. It's always a pleasure having you on. Please make time for us again. The
envoy for Libya from the United Nations who has a tough job on his hands. But sir, we wish you the best, thank you.
We're going to take a very short break. Back after this.
[11:35:00] ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is CONNECT THE WORLD with me, Becky Anderson. Welcome back and for those of you who are just joining
us, you are more than welcome.
Here's a question to ponder. Would you document your child's earliest days on video to later show them a life they are too young to remember? Well,
what if those days were defined by this?
The sound of bombs exploding against glass and concrete. Would you record that reality? So that later, your child could understand? Waad Al-Kateab
has and in this remarkable documentary called "For Sama", she illustrates the female experience of war in the Syrian city of Aleppo. Relayed as a
love letter to her daughter. I'm delighted to say that Waad Al-Kateab joins me right now alongside, "For Sama" other Emmy award winning co-
director, Edward Watts. And to both of you, thank you.
Just step back for a moment. It's an extraordinary documentary. Just take us back to the point at which you were shooting. And very briefly, give
our viewers a sense of what was going on in your life at that point.
WAAD AL-KATEAB, CO-DIRECTOR, "FOR SAMA ": We, as Syrian, we totally understand what we went through and we know why that's happened. And it
was a moment when you feel your life would be ended at any moment and you will be killed. And that's why it's very, very important for us to
document that minutes. And just save it for the whole history.
ANDERSON: I want to look at part of the trailer for this and get our viewers a sense of quite how extraordinary this footage is. Stand by.
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TEXT: Sama I know you understand what's happening. I can see it in your eyes. You never cry like a normal baby would.
That's what breaks my heart.
The hospital has been bombed. My daughters in there.
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ANDERSON: Edward, what did you find most extraordinary about putting this documentary together?
EDWARD WATTS, CO-DIRECTOR, "FOR SAMA": Well, so many things, actually. I mean, Waad gathered one of the greatest archives, I think, of the whole
history of this Syrian conflict. And it's not, I think, one of the things that really stood out for me was she hadn't just captured the horror and
the catastrophe that hit Aleppo, which people are more familiar with. But she'd also captured the humanity, the humor, the bravery, the love, all of
these intimate moments between ordinary Syrians. Which I think is something that really, we haven't come into contact with, a lot of the
films that have come from Syria.
ANDERSON: Well there's such a powerful moment in the documentary when the hospital is being bombed and someone jokes that Sama is thinking, mom, why
did you give birth to me? It's been nothing since war since the day I was born. Is that a thought that stayed with you?
AL-KATEAB: It does like all the time as a mom and you know, as just a woman that wants to live her life normally. And I think this is the same
moment which all Syrian mothers now in Idlib, they lost a place out of their control. They still have the same experience now and they are
thinking about their children. How they are being bombed, as we're speaking right now. That's really unbelievable that it's still happening.
It's now three years after what we went through.
ANDERSON: Waad Al-Kateab and Edward Watts, "For Sama", award winning co- directors, we appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
AL-KATEAB: Thank you very much.
WATTS: Thank you.
ANDERSON: "For Sama" well worth the watch viewers.
Still ahead, the conflict in Libya rages on despite growing calls to end hostilities. We've been speaking to the man trying to sort that out this
hour. Up next, some truly striking photos from Libya. That's next.
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ANDERSON: In tonight's Parting Shots for you we return to one of our top stories this hour, the conflict in Libya. All but forgotten it seems but
one man capturing much of it is war photographer Andre Liohn. Who has both compelling and heartbreaking images from Tripoli. Have a look at this.
ANDRE LIOHN, FREELANCE WAR PHOTOGRAPHER (voice-over): When the Libyan revolution started, I was one of the first photographers and journalists
that entered Libya.
Every day, more difficult for people to really understand what is happened on the ground. Why are the war happening? Why are people still suffering?
Why are our politicians not taking decisions that can prevent those wars to happen?
I start taking photographs because at the time, I did believe that photography would help reconciliation that never happened. People got more
and more divided and today, they're truly divided.
A recent picture that I have down in Tripoli now in a hospital of a father who went to the hospital during the night with his wife. Seriously wounded
after their house was attacked by an air strike.
I think it's important to say that children, women, old men, civilians, they will be killed for nothing. The message that I would like to send
with my photographs is a message of hope.
ANDERSON: A message of hope from war photographer Andre Liohn.
This is your world. We've connected it like no one else can. I'm Becky Anderson. Thank you for watching. It's the end of the week for us here in
the UAE. We will see you next week.
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