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Jeffrey Epstein Dies After Apparent Hanging in Jail Cell; Dem Candidates Take Stage to Talk Plans for Gun Control; Latinos Worry About Being Targets in Wake of El Paso Shooting; Shooting at Norway Mosque Investigated as Possible Act of Terrorism. Aired 7-8a ET

Aired August 11, 2019 - 07:00   ET



[07:00:24] CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Seven o'clock on a Sunday morning. We're so grateful for your company. I'm Christi Paul.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Martin Savidge, in for Victor Blackwell.

On the show today, center stage, in Iowa, the 2020 candidates get passionate about gun control and the debate, pointing fingers at President Trump for his hateful rhetoric.


SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He's certainly been tweeting out the ammunition.


PAUL: And people in the Hispanic community across the country say they are living in fear now.


JAVIER GUZMAN, ORGANIZER, MAKE THE ROAD: It's real now. It's not like -- we can't connect those dots and people know that they're in danger.


SAVIDGE: And the story of how one kid is turning tragedy into triumph, spreading kindness through the El Paso challenge.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Be kind to everyone and make the world a better place than it is right now.


PAUL: We have all those stories coming up for you. We do want to begin with the demands for answers following the apparent suicide of millionaire financier and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. SAVIDGE: Guards found Epstein unresponsive yesterday morning in a

high security prison in New York. That's where he's been held since his arrest last month in charges he trafficked underage girls for sex. The Justice Department is launching an investigation with Attorney General Bill Barr saying Epstein's death raises serious questions.

PAUL: Polo Sandoval is with us now.

We know, Polo, that Epstein had previously been on suicide watch. Sources say he was not at the time of his death. Are we getting any more answers as to why that was?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi and Martin, we also know that he took his own life just about 24 hours after a court unsealed some documents to provide more insight into the allegations against Jeffrey Epstein. When you take a closer look at the timeline, it gives you a better sense of the days leading up to what took place yesterday.

He was 66 years old. He pled not guilty to charges of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls. He was jailed here since early July when a judge denied him bond and ability to wait for his court proceedings while in his home here.

We also know that this is certainly triggered a lot of outrage here. When you look at what actually happened just days before, before yesterday's incident, we know that he had been initially on suicide watch, particularly after an incident about two weeks ago when he was found here in his cell with some markings, minor bruising on his neck. He claimed he had been assaulted by fellow inmates.

However, officials here never fully said or confirmed if those wounds were perhaps or those injuries were perhaps self-inflicted or if they were the result of some sort of assault here. But going back to the reaction we're getting from across the country, mainly from the nation's top cop, William Barr, saying that he was outraged after hearing about the death of Epstein.

I want to read you a full statement what he released noting on after the news broke here, he wrote, quote, I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning, referring to yesterday, of course, from an apparent suicide while in federal custody. Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered. In addition to the FBI's investigation, I have consulted with the inspector general who is opening an investigation into the circumstances of Mr. Epstein's death.

The alleged victims, of course, also responding with outrage and hope still that there will potentially be some form of justice here, be criminal or civil court. One of the attorneys for one of those alleged victims said yesterday that many of the victims of Epstein shouldn't lose hope.

Martin, Christi, back to you.

SAVIDGE: All right. Polo Sandoval, thanks for that. PAUL: Let's point out this was not Epstein's first time in jail. He

spent 13 months in a Florida jail after reaching a plea deal with federal prosecutors in Miami over sex crime charges. Now, he would have had to register as a sex offender but he was free until July 6th of this year when he was arrested on child sex trafficking charges and then placed on suicide watch, as we said a few weeks later when marks were found in his neck. Polo has talked about. Not clear when he was removed from suicide watch.

This is one of the big questions now. Guards say he took his own life just one day as Polo said after those court documents were unsealed that revealed the names and details of prominent figures that are linked to him.

SAVIDGE: All right. Let's bring in Paul Callan. He is a legal analyst with CNN.

And, Polo, it was just this time yesterday that we were talking to you and there was this initial surprise about the news. Now there's just this almost stampede of questions that everyone has. I'm wondering just how you reflect on it now 24 hours later.

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I remain shocked by the death, Martin.

[07:05:01] That facility MCC, I've represented clients who were actually incarcerated there. It's a place where you keep people while they're awaiting trial.

And in a situation like this where you're being held in a special unit where there's additional guarding going on and you have somebody who in all probability had tried to commit suicide earlier, you would expect virtually 100 percent surveillance at all times, certainly a lot more than happened here. So, I mean, it certainly appears to be a shocking dereliction of duty by those at MCC whose job it is to protect these prisoners.

PAUL: You know, what's interesting is, James Gagliano, CNN law enforcement analyst, was on with us last hour and he said part of what shocks him, too, is that facility itself, that the sheets there are paper thin. So, you can't have a situation like this. Something like this wouldn't happen there.

Where do you start this investigation? Who do you start talking to there first?

CALLAN: Well, I don't start, as the president has, with crazy conspiracy theories. I start, I think, by questioning all of the people who were on the security patrol that was on that night, and the early morning hours, when the suicide took place and work your way up the chain of command to find -- you interview other inmates who are close by to see if they know anything.

And it's only then that you start looking at whether there's a conspiracy here, whether somebody on the outside wanted Epstein dead and certainly you could propound a number of people who would have liked Epstein dead because his potential testimony could have incriminated a lot of well-known powerful people. But, the place to start is in the prison facility to see what went wrong there.

SAVIDGE: Beyond that investigation, where else is this case going to go? I mean, what about there had been others who had been mentioned as potential coconspirators of whose who helped Epstein carry out trafficking these women. Does that still go forward?

CALLAN: Oh, I think, Martin, not only does it go forward, but I think this is going to be a major case that everybody is going to be watching over the next year and I say that because Epstein's death by no means ends the litigation relating to what he did. Of course, no more criminal charges can be lodged against him, but his coconspirators, if there are any, can be charged with criminal activity and there will be a large number of civil lawsuits filed by the alleged victims of Epstein.

In the course of those cases, I think we're going to hear about an abundance of, you know, scandalous material. He moved in high circles, moneyed circles, power circles. People who partied with him on his plane and airport that included President Trump, included President Clinton, included a lot of other people who are well known and powerful.

So, Epstein's life will continue in the media even though he died just a couple days ago.

PAUL: All right. Paul Callan, thank you so much for all the insight. It's good to have you here.

CALLAN: Thank you. Always nice to be here.

PAUL: Always.

SAVIDGE: And another topic, Democratic candidates for president are sharing their plans for putting gun reform control into place. In the wake of protest demanding change after those multiple mass shootings, is it going to be enough for voters?

PAUL: And an 11-year-old wants to make sure that last weekend's shooting in El Paso doesn't define his community. How he's honoring the 22 lives lost and how he wants you to help him.


[07:11:44] SAVIDGE: You know, at least five Walmart stores across the country have received threats over the past week. Richard Clayton was arrested for allegedly warning people on Facebook to stay away from a Walmart near Orlando because he was about to get off probation and get his AR-15 back. A 13-year-old boy in south Texas, he's facing a terrorism charge after his social media post caused a local Walmart to be evacuated. And Kansas City police are looking into various threats posted on Reddit and other online sites.

PAUL: You know, a spokesperson from Walmart says the company takes all threats seriously. It's focused on security at all of its stores. It was just last week, 22 people were killed at that Walmart in El Paso.

And there are 16 Democratic candidates for president who are taking the opportunity to stand in front of political supporters to explain what they're going to do to stop gun violence if they win the presidency.

SAVIDGE: Gun control advocacy groups puts together the forum in the wake of the attacks, of course, the ones that occurred in Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas. Several candidates presented their policy plans to address the problem but Andrew's Yang emotional response is capturing voters' attention. A woman in the audience whose 4-year-old son saw his twin sister killed by a stray bullet shared her story and asked Yang for his solution.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As president, how would address unintentional shootings by children?

ANDREW YANG (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you for that. Can I give you a hug? Is that appropriate?

I have a 6 and 3-year-old boy, I was imagining -- I was imagining it was one of them that got shot and the other saw it. That scene that you described, I'm sorry, it's very, very affecting me.

You're right that when there's a gun in the household, you're more likely to have a child get shot or the owner get shot than to kill, let's say, an intruder into entire the house. Those are just numbers. Those are just the facts.


PAUL: Senator Kamala Harris talked about using executive action to get things done if she becomes president. That if Congress doesn't act, of course.

She also addressed the sentiment that President Trump contributed to the atmosphere that led up to the shooting in El Paso when the suspect told police he targeted Mexicans.


HARRIS: People say to me, did Donald Trump cause those folks to be killed? Well, no, of course, he didn't pull the trigger, but he certainly been tweeting out the ammunition.


PAUL: Joining me now to talk about this, the 2020 race for president, CNN political analyst, Toluse Olorunnipa, White House reporter for "The Washington Post".

Toluse, always good to have you with us. Thank you.

I wanted to ask you, first of all, let's talk about Andrew Yang. I mean, he showed such vulnerability there in that moment when he cried on stage. It's something we don't always see. Some people may appreciate it. They may relate to it.

And you juxtaposition that with this picture of President Trump with his thumb up at a time when we're all just trying to -- everybody is just trying to process what has happened over the last week.

Does Yang's reaction speak to people in a way that draw him to them, or is there a risk that people will look at him and think, we need somebody who will not break down on stage?

[07:15:14] TOLUSE OLORUNNIPA, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I think the country is looking for some kind of leadership on this issue of gun violence. And Yang is showing something that's different from what we've seen in the past.

Democrats put out a lot of policies on issues from taxes to immigration to health care. It's a very policy-focused primary. But when it comes to the issue of gun violence, that's an emotional issue, and we're seeing Democrats not only put out plans, but also are trying to connect with the emotions Americans are feeling.

A lot of fear out in the country and a lot of concern that this is a problem that has defied solution for so long that politicians have not been able to come up with any type of solution to the fact that we continue to have mass shootings on a regular basis in this country and President Trump often goes to the hospitals or goes to the scenes of these shootings. But in terms of pushing for legislation or policies to make sure they don't happen in the future, we haven't seen much.

So, from Yang, we're seeing an emotional connection and trying to connect with the angst that's in the country. And I think that's something that a lot of voters, especially in places like Iowa that are very tuned in, they pay attention to. People cannot only put out policy but also speak to the country, speak to anger and the angst and frustration that's out there in the country. And I think that's what Yang was doing by just being raw and emotional. I think you'll expect to see more of that from Democrats going forward on this issue.

PAUL: The empathy and the respect and the, yes, people can relate certainly to that. No doubt about it.

I want to talk about Kamala Harris as well.

Do we have the sound bite here of what she said regarding President Trump? She says she gets asked something all the time about his responsibility in these shootings that we've seen.

OK. I'm sorry. We don't have it. I will tell you what she said.

She said: People say to me, did Donald Trump cause those folks to be killed? Well, no, of course, he didn't pull the trigger, but he certainly had been tweeting out the ammunition.

I mean, that is a biting one liner. It is memorable. Is that something that moves the needle for her? OLORUNNIPA: We have definitely been seeing Democrats get closer and

closer to the line and assigning responsibility, culpability to President Trump for what happened specifically in El Paso. A number of Democrats saying that he is a white nationalist. He fans the flame of white nationalism, that he's putting out into the atmosphere these types of ideas that some of these deranged killers can latch on to idea of invasion of country, the idea that immigrants are taking over.

So, we are going to expect to see more of that from Democrats. Kamala Harris got close to the line saying even though the president didn't pull the trigger, that he is giving the ammunition to these killers who want to follow his footsteps and follow the lead that he's putting out there by making these anti-immigrant comments that he's made over the past two and a half year. It is something that may turn off some voters who say that's going too far.

But the Democratic base wants someone who is going to take the fight to Trump and not be afraid to cross some lines because we saw President Trump cross all manner of different lines in 2016 and he was not punished by the voters. He was actually rewarded by voters when he attacked John McCain, when he went after all these sacred cows on the right. So, Democrats want someone who is willing to take the fight to Trump because they know he's not going to play by the rules either.

PAUL: A lot of people think Biden may be the one to take the fight to Trump, but he's had a couple dicey moments. Let's listen here.


JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I watched what happened when the kids from Parkland marched up to -- I met with them and then went up on the hill when I was vice president. They went up the hill to go all those neighborhoods. All those congressmen are like, I'm not here. I'm not here. Don't tell them I'm around.

This president is fan the flames of white supremacy in this nation. His low energy, vacant-eyed mouthing of the words written for him condemning white supremacists this week, I don't believe fooled anyone.


PAUL: So there's an illustration of one moment where people would consider it a gaffe. He talked about meeting Parkland in '08 and spoke as though he was vice president at that point, of course he was not. And then a different moment where he rallied his troops, he spoke to the people and really moved some people with that speech about the president.

Do these moments for him balance each other out? Or what is -- I'm wondering what the risk is that the gaffes he has will be forgiven or will be too detrimental to him?

OLORUNNIPA: There are a lot of voters that give Joe Biden a pass on some of these gaffes because they know him and have known him for such a long time.

But my colleague Matt Viser has a story in "The Washington Post" today talking to some voters in Iowa who think Joe Biden has lost his mojo. They're hoping that he gets it back because they want to be able to vote for him. They think he's a centrist candidate that can win back some of those Trump voters that Trump got in the Midwest from Obama in 2016.

[07:20:06] But they're concerned that maybe he won't be able to stand on the debate stage with President Trump.

And we're already seeing President Trump start to tweet out questions about Biden's mental acuity, whether or not he lost a step or whether or not he has all of his marbles, basically attacking Joe Biden over whether or not he's getting too old to fight on the political stage. And there are a number of voters that that kind of message appeals to because they're wondering, with all of these gaffes and with all of these questions, whether or not Biden will be able to stand on the debate stage on Trump and take it to him.

So, that's something he has to deal with over the next six months as voters decide whether or not to cast their ballots for him.

PAUL: I have to ask you one more thing. What do you make of the president tweeting these unfounded conspiracy theories about the Jeffrey Epstein death and the links to the Clintons? Is it appropriate to be hearing the president put this stuff out there?

OLORUNNIPA: Well, it's absolutely unprecedented for current president to spread conspiracy theories about a previous president, specifically on the idea that maybe a previous president is behind the death of Jeffrey Epstein. It's pretty unfounded. It's baseless. It's something we have seen this president do on all manner of issues.

But the fact that he's doing after a previous president shows he does not have any kind of rubric in terms of what he decide to put out there on social media. He's willing to spread conspiracy theories and even have people within his own party, Marco Rubio, saying by spreading conspiracy theories, that shows how foreign nationals, foreign countries can interfere in our elections because country can be susceptible to believing all manner of conspiracy theories as long as it's someone on the other side and President Trump is using that for political benefit.

But it does draw the question whether or not that's good for the country, because having conspiracy theories out there, having people believe all the stuff allows the Russians or others to come in and spread similar theories, similar conspiracies in the future going into 2020.

PAUL: All right. Toluse Olorunnipa, always grateful to have you with us. Thank you.

SAVIDGE: We just want to take a moment to show you a tweet from the president's former director of communications, Anthony Scaramucci, who you will remember was in the job for just about 11 days. Yesterday, the president called him incapable on Twitter after Scaramucci criticized his meeting with survivors of the shooting that took place in Texas.

Here is Scaramucci's response: For the last three years, I have fully supported this president. Recently, he has said things that divide the country in a way that is unacceptable, so I didn't pass the 100 percent litmus test. Eventually he turns on everyone and soon it will be you and then the entire country.

Just ahead, outrage and anger spilling into the streets of New York this weekend over those massive deportation raids at food factories. We'll discuss what the Trump administration is asking ICE field officers to do this week.

PAUL: And it's a community on edge. Police reveal the motive for last week's shooting in El Paso. Latinos across the country say they're really worried now about their safety, some even afraid just to go outside.


[07:26:54] PAUL: After immigration officials in Mississippi detained 680 people in deportation raids, human rights advocates are outraged over the children who were left without care.

SAVIDGE: Police in New York say they arrested 100 people at a protest that took place outside of a building that supplies office space for ICE agents.


SAVIDGE: Dozens of people blocked at intersections, stopping traffic in both directions. Those arrested were charged with disorderly conduct.

PAUL: And that's just an example of some of the fear that is still being felt across the country a week later after that deadly mass shooting in El Paso, particularly among Latinos and people of color. These communities are no longer the target of just racist rhetoric but of deadly violence.

CNN Polo Sandoval takes a look at it.


SANDOVAL (voice-over): Some 2,200 miles from El Paso, Hispanics in Long Island, New York, say they are living in fear. Saturday's attack targeting migrants in El Paso reverberated across minority communities across the country including here in the city of Brentwood, New York, not far from where there was a series of attacks targeting Hispanics a decade ago, where Maria Magdalena Hernandez worries Salvadoran immigrants such as herself could also become the targets of white nationalists.

(on camera): What's changed in the last few days? Is there more fear? (SPEAKING SPANISH)

(voice-over): For me, there's an increase fear, says Hernandez. Adding we may not talk about it, but it's definitely palpable in and around our communities and deserve dignity, respect and peace. Hernandez's feelings were shared by many we spoke to including her co- worker, Javier Guzman.

JAVIER GUZMAN, ORGANIZER, MAKE THE ROAD: He was trying to kill immigrants. That's why we went all the way down to the border, so that's scary.

SANDOVAL: Guzman, an organizer with Make the Road New York, which helps migrants, says this concern has been heavy on the minds of the families he helps.

GUZMAN: We have seen a lot of fear in the community because of that, because it's real now. You know, it's not like -- we can connect those dots. And people know they're in danger just because of the color of their skin.

SANDOVAL: It's also personal for Latinos on the West Coast.


SANDOVAL: When things like this happen, we get more worried and we can't remain calm, says Jose Sanchez, a Mexican native living in L.A. This week, President Trump called on the nation to condemn the racism and white supremacy espoused by the El Paso shooter. For many, it fell short.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America.

SANDOVAL: The president did not acknowledge that some of the racist words that police believe the shooter posted online actually echoed the president's own words. In an online manifesto, police say the killer rambled about a, quote, Hispanic invasion of Texas.

TRUMP: You look at what's marching, up, that's envision.

Our country spoke, we're full.

How do you stop these people? You can't.

CROWD: Shoot them.

TRUMP: That's only in the panhandle you can get away with that statement.


CROWD: Shoot them.

TRUMP: That's only in the panhandle you can get away with that statement.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The president's words, some say, have fueled racism, embolden white supremacist and create a climate of fear among the nation's nearly 60 million Latinos.

Back at the scene of the deadliest attack on the Hispanic community in years, the shock and grief are still raw.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're being attacked. And our government needs to step in. If not, the people here will step in.

POLO: Others are putting their message in writing at the overgrowing makeshift memorial three little girls said they were American citizens and the daughters of Mexican parent were afraid to go outside, they wrote to the president. We hope you read this message. God bless you.


CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Our thanks to Polo Sandoval there.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: With me now to discuss all of these threats further is CNN political commentator Luis Gutierrez. He is a former Democratic congressman for Illinois.

And thank you, sir, very much for joining us this morning.

LUIS GUTIERREZ, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Thank you for having me this morning.

SAVIDGE: Tell me about the conversations you're having with immigrants, with Latinos, with people in communities across this country and how palpable is this fear?

GUTIERREZ: It's very palpable. So, think of a city like Chicago, like many other large urban cities, there might be a Greek town, a Chinatown. There isn't a Mexican town in Chicago, per se, but little village, 26th Street, is a predominantly Mexican, immigrant community within the city of Chicago.

I just want to make clear that many people think you shop in Chicago, the Magnificent Mile, second largest revenue stream in tax dollars to the city of Chicago is 26th Street. I tell you, I saw the street on a Sunday, a Sunday where you will see many children walking hand in hand with their mom and dad as they go about shopping, a lot of other commercial strips in Chicago on a Sunday afternoon are pretty desolate. Not 26th street.

Yet people are fearful of coming out, the neighborhood mall, car sales are down when you talk to the used car sales men. People aren't shopping. People aren't buying. People are living in fear.

And that's in a city like Chicago where Mayor Lightfoot has taken very great steps to protect the immigrant community, L.A., New York and yet people are still fearful. Let's remember, 5 million American citizen children have parents that are undocumented.

When you conduct these raids, like the one they did in Mississippi, you literally leave behind thousands in the case of Mississippi, hundreds of American citizen children without a parent. And that is a really, really scary situation. I have been there when it's happened. And I've held the children in my arms after their mom or dad has disappeared. I've been to local schools to talk to children that are traumatized and other children simply see their classmates disappear because in the end many times the American citizen children are forced to go to a country they know nothing about.

SAVIDGE: It is the children, especially the reaction that we have seen that has struck the hearts and the minds of many people. Let me ask you this, I hadn't thought about it initially, but having talked to Latinos in the aftermath of the massacre that took place inside of Walmart and then the raid that came a few days later, how this added salt to the wound. And I'm wondering, now the administration is instructing ICE field officers to conduct even more raids, to find even more businesses in the coming weeks.

Do you expect that we will continue or to see perhaps raids as severe?

GUTIERREZ: I unfortunately believe so. I think this is part of the measures that Donald Trump is taking in order to stoke the fears in our communities and also to say to his constituent, you know what, you know why you don't have good health care, because we got to give it to immigrant. You know why your schools are overpopulated, because of those immigrants. You know why you don't have a job? It's because of those immigrants.

He blames immigrants, these invaders, people like me whose mom and dad came to Chicago in 1953 because, you know, they were looking for a better life. And guess what, it kind of worked out for the Gutierrez, as it does for most. And I think what Donald Trump fails to understand that he can go after the immigrant but he should remember that Latinos as a community are 50 million strong in the United States of America. And they're organizing.

So I do work with the national Partnership for New Americans. We're in 37 states across the country. We're giving immigrants the legal services that they need and the protection and we're training them. We have people out on the street training the immigrant community on how to protect themselves.

But in the end, you've got to go to work, right? I thought Donald Trump said he was going after the murderers, the rapists, the people who are selling drugs. These are people in meat-packing plants.

Who the hell wants to really work in a meat-packing plant if you have any alternative, but they do the work? Many of them, God, think of Mississippi. Can you imagine 3,000, 4,000 Latinos in the middle of Mississippi? You don't think that everybody notices that they are there before Donald Trump decided this? Of course they did.

But no one else, let me repeat this, no one else wants this. And we should say to people, hey, if you're violating the law, we're coming after you. But if you're here raising your children, you're working and you're doing the kinds of jobs across this country that those of us that were fortunate enough, blessed enough, to have been born in this country.

So what we're doing is saying, look if you're an American citizen, you have to fight because these immigrants are literally, not figuratively speaking, literally your neighbor. You go to church with them, you sit in the pews with them, you shop with them, their kids go to school with your kids, they're an integral part of our community and we should not be going after them.

But our community is organizing. The point I want to make, yes, there's the fear but there's also the resistance. Every year -- the year after presidential election, the number of people that apply for American citizenship is down.

Not in 2017. It's up. And it continues to be up in 2018, 2019. There are over 1 million green card holders that are currently in line and applying for American citizenship. We're going to do everything we can to get them ready for the November 2020 election.

SAVIDGE: Luis Gutierrez, thank you very much. What we hear is people going from shock to anger to action. Thank you, sir, for joining us.

GUTIERREZ: Thank you.

PAUL: So the inmate who escaped from a Tennessee prison this week was spotted last night. What officials say helped them narrow the search area now and where that is.


[07:40:58] SAVIDGE: These have been tense weeks in Hong Kong. We want to check in with where things are this morning. There are thousands who are protesting now for a tenth straight weekend. Hong Kong police reporting, protesters to stop what authorities are calling illegal acts, but that's not stopping the protesters who are marching and chanting free Hong Kong.

PAUL: In the meantime, escaped inmate Curtis Ray Watson, he could be maybe captured soon. Officials in Tennessee say they have received a credible tip now. This happened last night. And it's helped them narrow the search area. Law enforcement agents, helicopters, canine units are currently at the scene in Lauderdale County, one of the local roads are reportedly blocked right now.

SAVIDGE: And it isn't that he's just an escapee, he is suspected in the death of a 64-year-old connections worker who was found dead at her home earlier this week. Officials believe that he remained in the area after his escape. The reward for the capture and conviction of Watson has risen to $57,000.

PAUL: And they say if you see him, do not approach him. Please just immediately call 911.

SAVIDGE: Meanwhile, authorities in Norway, they're now investigating a shooting at a mosque as a possible act of terrorism.

PAUL: Investigators say the suspect shot through the glass door of the mosque that injured one person before being overpowered.

CNN producer Salma Abdelaziz says that the suspect apparently expressed right wing sympathies online.


SALMA ABDELAZIZ, CNN PRODUCER: Another worrying development in the tragic shooting of a mosque in Oslo. Police recovered the body of a young woman inside the suspect's home. She's believed to be related to the suspect, but investigations are still under way. At about 4:00 p.m. local time, a young white man a Norwegian citizen, according to authorities, entered the mosque. Eyewitnesses say he was wearing all black, had on a bullet proof vest and was carrying a shot-gun like weapon and a pistol.

An altercation ensued between him and worshippers inside. A 75-year- old man was lightly injured but ultimately worshippers were able to overpower the shooter and stop him before police arrived. Police took him into custody and found multiple weapons at the scene.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was called by one person and tell us that and we went out with a lot of police units and when we came to the mosque, some people in the mosque had been taking care of this person. We have him in our custody tonight.

ABDELAZIZ: This very mosque had increased its own measures after the Christchurch terror attacks earlier this year. These attacks resulted in more than 50 people dead after two mosques were attacked in New Zealand. All of this takes place as Muslims prepare to celebrate Eid al-Adha, the most important Muslim holiday of the year.

Al Noor Islamic Center, the one that was attacked, had a festival for Eid scheduled on Sunday. Some 1,000 people were supposed to gather and celebrate but all of this now thrown into question as the community deals with this tragedy.

Salma Abdulaziz, CNN, London.

PAUL: Salma, thank you.

You know, they say that kindness is contagious. But there's an 11- year-old boy who is hoping it can help heal his El Paso community, and he wants you to be part of this.


[07:48:30] SAVIDGE : After the tragedy like the one that occurred in El Paso, people often ask, well what can you do? Leave it to a young person to give us some ideas. Twenty-two good deeds to honor 22 lives lost. That's how -year-old Ruben Martinez is taking action after last

weekend's mass shooting in El Paso.

PAUL: And you know what, there are so many people that are already in on this with him. They're posting online about their random acts of kindness. They're hoping this will build up the community.

I spoke with Ruben and his mother Rose about this idea how he came up with it. He calls it the El Paso challenge.


RUBEN MARTINEZ, 11-YEAR-OLD WHO STARTED #ELPASOCHALLENGE: Like -- I like went to a hospital to do -- to give roses to workers and victims, I paid for someone's food. I gave cards to the first responders. I gave food to the first responders. And then I -- and then I donated toys to other kids.

PAUL: Boy, I bet those first responders really appreciated that. What did they say to you?

MARTINEZ: They said thank you and they said, God bless you.

PAUL: Rose, what is it like to watch your son take this challenge on?

ROSE GANDARILLA, RUBEN'S MOTHER: It just warms my heart. I keep telling him, son, I can't even express to you in words how proud I am of you. I just have to support him. It's been great seeing the response that we have received and he has received from the community and even people out of town.

[07:50:06] Some large corporations have also been in touch with him. He'll be working with some of them in the near future as well.

PAUL: So did I hear him right? You said you were on your way to Walmart when you heard about the attack?

GANDARILLA: Well, that morning we had -- we were going to go to Walmart to get his school supplies. But a family member was having a benefit 5K run for a scholarship fund that she has. So we had said we were going to Walmart right after the 5K. Obviously, you know, when we were headed home from the 5K is when everything had just happened. And we witnessed a lot of first responders heading that way.

PAUL: So, Rose, I understand that he came to you and said, I don't want to go to stores. I don't want to leave the house. As a mother, how do you respond to that?

GANDARILLA: It was heartbreaking. I just -- I looked at him and said, we cannot do that.

Sunday is when we started talking. I asked him if El Paso ever been mean, have they ever hurt you? Of course he replied no. I said, there you go. Most people are good, son. What can you do to help? Maybe we can come up with something you can do to help. So he went to his room, came back about 30 minutes later with a

notebook where he had written #elpasochallenge on top. He kind of like he was writing it for school. He wrote purpose. And he explained what he wanted to do.

So, at that moment I knew I had to share it at least with my colleagues and friends so that they could help and he could feel like he was, you know, doing something to help. Of course, we never expected the response we have gotten so far.

PAUL: So, Ruben, do you think there are still other kids that are afraid like you were? Have you talked to anybody? What are your friends saying?

MARTINEZ: I think there were a lot more kids that were scared than me. There were a lot more kids I think who were really, really scared, because none -- because no kid should ever have to witness anything like that.


PAUL: I would love to see what you are doing for the El Paso challenge. Tweet a picture of your good deed. I want to see it, @Christi_Paul, with a #elpasochallenge and #humankindness.

We'll be right back.


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