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ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST: The Driver appears to wake back up, put his hands on the wheel. Not clear if the vehicle was on autopilot, but Tesla warns it's no substitute for an attentive person behind the wheel. Do you think?

It's 5:00 Eastern, 2:00 in the afternoon out West. Great to have you with us. I'm Ana Cabrera in New York, and you are live in the CNN Newsroom.

And it's getting late in the south of France, where even of the world's most powerful people are meeting. Night one of the G7 Summit, the third such meeting for President Trump, since he took office. We have this video of him arriving for a welcome dinner earlier this evening, but we're not expecting to have video of him leaving.

Instead, the White House has called a lid, meaning they will not allow any more filming tonight. This follows an impromptu lunch between the Summit host, French President Emmanuel Macron and President Trump, which reporters were allowed to briefly record. Lunch was the first time the two men had met, since President Trump threatened to hit France with tariffs just hours earlier.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't want them doing anything having to deal with taxing unfairly our companies. Those are great American companies. And, frankly, I don't want France going out and taxing our companies. It's very unfair.

And if they do that, we'll be taxing their wine or doing something else. We'll be taxing their wine like they've never seen before.


CABRERA: A threat. Kind of an interesting way to start a meeting with allies, considering they could help put up a united front against China, as Trump burrows deep into a trade war with that country.

President Trump doesn't appear to be interested in a united front, though. In fact, sources say he didn't even want to attend the G7 Summit in the first place. He thought the last two were unproductive.

CNN Chief White House Correspondent, Jim Acosta is traveling with the president. Jim, tell us more about the president's mindset, heading into this Summit.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Ana, I think what the president is trying to demonstrate is he sees trade as a tool, as a bit of leverage to hold over some of these foreign leaders. And we saw him do it with China earlier this week. It had some rather severe consequences in the stock market at the tail end of the week.

And now, he's starting to do it with France and some of the other members of the G7 that we saw as he was heading off to France just last night. He was, essentially, saying, listen, if France is going to do something to any of our kinds of products, we're going to do the same thing to them. We're going to put a tariff on French wine.

That, obviously, unnerved people over here. Donald Tusk, who is the president of the European Council, told reporters earlier in the day that he's worried that this trade war policy, that the president has in various places around the world, could lead to a global recession.

And so, some of these frayed nerves are already on display. Some of these bitter disagreements on policy are on display. And we're going to see, I think, a continuation of that as this Summit goes on.

Now, the president does have an opportunity to have a sit-down with the British prime minister, the new British prime minister, Boris Johnson. That is going to take place tomorrow morning. And he has the opportunity there to be meeting with somebody who is a bit more like-minded, when it comes to some of these issues on the world stage.

But earlier in the day, as he was meeting with the French president, Emmanuel Macron, some of that frostiness that we've heard in some of these comments going back and forth. That was not on display. The two looked rather chummy, as they were getting along with one another and talking to reporters. The president said everybody is getting along over here at the G7. That's not necessarily the case.

But, Ana, one thing that we should make note to our viewers this evening is -- and you were just touching on this a few moments ago. The president is at this working dinner at the G7 Summit this evening with these other world leaders. And the White House pool, the small group of reporters and photographers who travel with the president everywhere he goes, they were sent home.

And so, essentially, the president is going to be going back to his hotel this evening without any kind of protective coverage as is the way it really can be described. If something were to happen to the president or happen to his motorcade on the way back to the hotel, there wouldn't be any coverage of that, because the pool has been sent home.

It sounds like a bit of inside baseball, a bit of Washington White press corps jargon, but it is an important part of our coverage. And when the president and the White House team sends that pool home, there is the potential that something could happen and it's going to get covered. And we'll just have to rely on what they tell us over at the White House to find out exactly what went on -- Ana.

CABRERA: Do we know, Jim, if this dinner is still ongoing even, and why this lid was called?

ACOSTA: We haven't got an answer as to why it was called. It may have something to do with the French government limiting a number of vehicles in each of these motorcades for the various leaders. That could be one possibility. But we haven't gotten a definitive answer on that. And so, yes, you know, this is all still ongoing, and we're trying to find out exactly what happened here.

But it is an unusual thing to see happen at one of these Summits. Typically, the press is with the president everywhere he goes in some way, shape or form.

[17:05:03] And the White House pool was designed so you wouldn't have a whole, you know, mob of reporters and photographers all around him. There's a select number of folks who do this to make sure that these sorts of things are covered.

And, you know, typically, Ana, something like a motorcade trip for a dinner back to the hotel, you know, we wouldn't even see the video from that sort of thing. Because it doesn't warrant any kind of coverage. It's just, sort of, a run-of-the-mill type of thing that happens.

But when the pool is sent home ahead of the, you know, president's departure from a major dinner such as this, it does raise eyebrows and raises a lot of questions -- Ana.

CABRERA: OK, Jim Acosta, keep asking those questions for us. Thank you.

With us now, former State Department negotiator and CNN Global Affairs Analyst, Aaron David Miller. Also, former Assistant Homeland Security Secretary and CNN National Security Analyst, Juliette Kayyem.

Aaron, you say this Summit is headed for a train wreck. Why?

AARON DAVID MILLER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: You know, if the past is (INAUDIBLE), Ana, that's exactly where it's heading. I mean, look at Sicily in 2017, Canada in 2018.

Three reasons. First, the president's persona. He's a guy who has a very hard time turning the M in me upside down, so it becomes a W in we. And these summits require a certain measure of coordination cooperation and flexibility.

Second is politics. He actually believes he may be right. That his base is, frankly, pleased by his tendency, and he gets a lot of pleasure out of this, in annoying and defying the European -- his European allies.

And, finally, politics. I'm not sure there's an issue that I could identify right now. I mean, maybe gender equality which is very important to Macron and is very important to Ivanka Trump, and, presumably, to the president, too. Maybe there's congruence there.

But on Iran, on trade war with China, on defending the democracies, and climate, there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of room and space for consensus.

CABRERA: And, Juliette, it's true, the president has had some awkward moments with world leaders in the past. He, famously, pushed the prime minister, Montenegro, out of the way, while heading to a photo- op back in 2017. And then, of course, there was his visit to the U.N. last year. And this happened. Watch.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country. America's -- is so true. I didn't expect that reaction but that's OK.


CABRERA: Juliette, this is a longtime business tie in. It's his third year now as commander in chief. Why does he struggle, when dealing with other world leaders?

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, I mean, first of all, Ana, thank you for the promotion. I was assistant secretary at DHS. I should make that clear. But, you know, part of it is just who Trump is and his role.

And I think what you're starting to see in year three is the reaction by the G7, that they don't have to cater to him in the way they might have felt like they had to in year one. They see the polling. They see the Twitter wilt (ph) meltdown. They see what happened to the United States stock market with the -- with the tariff issue, with China.

I, sort of, describe it as a -- you know, like when your first year in college. You're dating the poet and he seems dark and interesting and, you know, rule breaking. And then, you, sort of, wake up a couple of months later, and you realize he's just a jerk.

And I think that's, sort of, the G7's reaction to Trump, at this stage. They're going to try to get what they can out of Trump. But, at this stage, towards the end of his first term, they're just trying to keep things together, knowing that they're not going to get much movement out of the United States on the key issues that matter to the E.U. They're -- this is, sort of, a do-no-harm G7, rather than we're going to change the word.

CABRERA: I didn't realize I skipped a word when I introduced you there, Juliette.

KAYYEM: That's OK. CABRERA: And I'm glad you caught it. The former Homeland Security secretary, assistant secretary, nonetheless. You have so much experience, and that's why we're so grateful that you're part of this conversation.

Aaron, CNN's sources have told us that the president doesn't see this meeting as particularly productive. In fact, we learned he actually said, you know, I don't think I should go. So, aides managed to add the session tomorrow on the global economy, so he could brag about how the U.S. is doing at these meetings.

I'm just wondering, which of the meetings he's going to have, do you think, is most important?

MILLER: Well, there are two -- I think, two bilaterals that actually -- well, one would certainly be productive. The Japanese and the -- and the U.S. have been working on the possibility of a trade agreement for months. There was some talk in Washington on Friday that they were close to some sort of consensus. So, the meeting with Shinzo Abe that if a deal is announced, I think that would be significant.

Second is his meeting with Boris Johnson who, obviously, is looking for his support in negotiating a bilateral U.K.-U.S. trade agreement, if, in fact, there is a hard Brexit.

[17:10:06] So, I think those two meetings, I think, are very important. Juliette, I think, raises a good point. This is, really, the diplomatic equivalent of the hypocritic oath which is, basically, do no harm. I mean, Macron has so lowered expectations that for the first time in 44 years, since the G7 convened in 1975, there probably will be no agreed statement or no statement at all.

CABRERA: Right. I mean, unfortunately, though, there is harm happening to the planet right now as they are meeting. The Amazon Rain Forest is on fire. It's a high priority for at least some on these world leaders. But President Trump has complained, in the past, that the G7 spends too much time talking about the environment.

Juliette, do you think the way to get through to him would be to connect these fires to, say, the migration crisis?

It might be. I mean, but, you know, Don -- the idea that Donald Trump used global warming or environmental issues as niche issues just, sort of, shows his mind frame. And, I think, in particular, when you talk about the E.U. They definitely see this as a -- as, potentially, an existential threat, regarding what's happening in the Amazon right now.

But Trump has already, sort of, undermined -- to the extent he can do more harm, undermined, I think, any idea that we're going to get something good vis-a-vis Brazil out of this. And the reason why is because he's been tweeting about trade agreements with Brazil. That seems to be a compliment.

That seems to be a carrot to Brazil, rather than being harsh, saying, look, if you don't get your act together, start to not only stop these fire, but also stop the policies that have engendered these kinds of fires, then we won't -- then we will, sort of, end a lot of the, sort of, major South American trade deals that are going between the E.U. and U.S.

The -- Trump has made it clear that he does not want to do this, thereby undermining the E.U.'s ability to use a stick against Brazil. The notion that you view environmental issues as niche issues at this stage, in terms of where the globe is, just means, as I said, again, just hold on another year, I think the E.U. is thinking, and see what happens in 2020 here in the United States.

CABRERA: Aaron, both presidents, Trump and Macron, have talked about Russia perhaps being allowed back in, restoring the G8. Do you see a scenario where that happens?

MILLER: Not here. And it shouldn't happen. And not only that, I mean, the whole bet. Clinton's bet on getting Russia into the G7 and make it the G8 was, really, a bet on a different kind of Russia. The Russian economy is nowhere near as productive as these other seven. And I don't think getting to the G8 means much, frankly, to Putin, other than as a -- as a symbolic, sort of, reward of international validation.

I don't think -- Macron and Trump may have talked about this. But I think the chances of re-admission, without significant concessions from Putin, most likely on Ukraine, chances of that, Ana, are slim to none.

CABRERA: OK, Aaron David Miller and Juliette Kayyem, thank you, both, for being here.

Ahead this hour, fighting the fires, as the crisis in the Amazon Rain Forest intensifies. World leaders are blasting the president of Brazil.

Plus, reality in America. How a high school being built in Michigan will have new places for staff and students to hide.

And Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg undergoing treatment for cancer, again. What we've just learned about her latest health setback.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.



CABRERA: One and a half soccer fields every minute. That is the staggering amount of precious Amazon Rain Forest that is going up in flames every 60 seconds. The Amazon's tree canopy which helps to provide 20 percent of the world's oxygen is being decimated. About two-thirds of this unique ecosystem lies in the country of Brazil.

And Brazil's president is taking the brunt of criticism for the blazes. Like President Trump, he expresses skepticism about the climate crisis and has, repeatedly, said Brazil should open up the Amazon to business interests so that mining, agricultural and logging companies could exploit its natural resources.

Much of the world disagrees. There are protests at home and abroad. This demonstration took place in London. World leaders at the G7 Summit are talking about it and U.S. presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, tweeted this. "As the Amazon burns, Brazil's Trump-like president who let loggers and miners destroy the land isn't acting. Trump must not seek a trade deal with Brazil until Bolsonaro reverses his catastrophic policies and addresses the fires. We need American leadership to save our planet."

CNN Senior International Correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh is joining us now in Porto Velho, Brazil. Nick, you've told us some of these fires were deliberately set by farmers who want land to grow crops or graze herds. Is that still happening?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, look, we spoke to police, further down the road from where I'm standing here, deeper inside what was once the thick Amazon jungle before. And they said, yes, the fires that they've seen by the side of the road, they think, were started deliberately. And also, too, they believe that at night is when they see the most, sort of, surge of flames. That's when people go out, it seems, and start these fires.

Essentially, the argument about that is denied by some. But, essentially, President Jair Bolsonaro has created a, sort of, environment, in which people feel it's OK to do that. The deforestation and the promotion of agriculture, using the land for grazing, for growing crops is better than letting it remain the lungs of the earth.

Now, obviously, the roads we've driven down here have seen destruction on either side. We saw a flash fire ourselves by one highway. You can see extraordinarily fast, how quickly the dry land caught and 100 yards of it gone in a matter of five minutes. That's the challenge that the Brazilian government faces here, along with, frankly, global condemnation for their attitude towards it.

We saw it slight softening of President Bolsonara's attitude in a speech yesterday. He seemed to accept the scale of the problem. He still said, though, it was part of the annual burning season they often face, and suggested the outside world should, kind of, mind its own business.

[17:15:03] But they have deployed the army. And, in fact, we saw over here, on the banks of the Amazon, you'd normally be able to see clearly right down there during the day, Ana. But the smoke from the fires has made the view pretty tough all day long.

We saw, earlier, what looked like a military airplane coming in; 43,000 troop, the government says, are on their way. Where are they going to go, what precisely they can do is the enormous challenge here. Because putting out fires -- well, most of these fires are in the middle of nowhere, far away from the main highways and susceptible to the high winds blowing around me here. To put them out, you have to move tons of water. You have the huge logistical (ph) operation that could take weeks. I think many people are hoping that maybe the rain will come in and try and slow these down. We may see some of that next week. But, still, this instant has focused global attention on the Bolsonaro government's policies.

They've been quite clear, they believe, the Amazon is a resource that should be exploited. The outside world has accused them of lying. France needs to do more. Germany is suggesting trade pacts should be on hold until they put these fires at bay.

And, really, the top -- the clock ticking on the Amazon canopy here. We all need it. We all breath it. And since I've been talking, about four football fields of it have disappeared.

CABRERA: Wow, think about that. That really puts it into perspective. Nick Paton Walsh, thank you for the reporting.

This is a chilling sign of the times. A high school in Michigan built to include places for students to hide. Details on the district spending millions to prepare for the worst.

You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM.



CABRERA: Welcome to the reality of going to school in America, including active shooter drills, bulletproof backpacks, and $48 million renovations to make it harder for a gunman to carry out a mass shooting.

Here's new what the new Fruitport High School in Michigan will look like. It will have curved hallways, half walls to help break up open areas, doors that lock on demand, and hidden corners for students to hide. The architect behind this plan usually designs prisons. And said with the school, he focused on striking a balance between security and a welcoming presence.

I want to bring in former FBI Senior Official, Katherine Schweit. She is an expert on active shooters, and co-authored an FBI study on mass shootings over a span of 13 years, including when Sandy Hook happened.

Katherine, thank you for joining us. You've studied hundreds of mass shootings, I know, --


CABRERA: -- including how they were carried out, how they ended. Are the design features, of this school that I just described, going to make it one of the safest in America?

SCHWEIT: Probably so. The school isn't scheduled to be finished for quite a while, and it's been under construction for more than a year and already. It's about two hours from where I grew up in Michigan. I think that the changes are, certainly, logical and I understand what the architect was trying to -- trying to design.

It's sad to say that we have to do this. We need to think about this, in terms of any place that we want to go to. But the architectural changes are going to -- are going to make it safer.

We know from research that high school shootings generally occur -- it's the high school student who's in that school --


SCHWEIT: -- who's doing the shooting. So, better prevention.

CABRERA: And on that note, that actually led me to this question which is, you know, if it is a student who would be at the school already, they would have knowledge. That person would, you know, have knowledge of these different design features. So, would they be as effective otherwise?

SCHWEIT: Well, you know, I know that -- I know the shooters are generally from the schools themselves and -- based on our research. But the design is to prevent a constant shooting, like shooting down a hallway so it's curved hallways and spots where people can tuck below and get out of the way of a shooting. And even though schools in the United States are safer than they've ever been before, this is, kind of, a scary reality that we're just dealing with right now.

People also want to also feel safe where they are. And this type of construction is going to allow the students to feel safe. I will say this about the timing of the shooting. When we researched the time and the amount of time it took to do one of these types of shootings, in the shootings where we could identify the time commitments, that less than five minutes occurred, 70 percent of them were over in five minutes or less. But 35 percent to 40 percent of them are over in two minutes or less. So, having a place to duck away, a door that's locked, some place that's harder -- a harder target is a good solution in any situation, whether it's a school or a business.

CABRERA: But is the complete overhaul of how we design public spaces realistic, though, or are we missing the equivalent of, you know, adding seat belts and air bags to cars?

SCHWEIT: Well, I think that prevention, obviously, is our best -- our best hope. And in -- reconstructing every single thing isn't possible. There are millions -- 5 million kids in the American schools today. We're not going to reconstruct their buildings.

This particular building in Michigan was built in the 1950s. It was scheduled for reconstruction anyway, and the -- and the people who lived there wanted to have a building built in that same location to keep the school on their -- on their campus. So, that's the purpose behind this. You can't have the purpose behind all construction and reconstruction based on school shootings. It's more important that we go to prevention. We look for prevention methods.

CABRERA: Let's talk more about prevention.


CABRERA: The FBI says it is seeing an increase in tips, --


CABRERA: -- since the shootings in El Paso and Dayton. We know of at least 29 people who have been arrested for threatening to carry out mass attacks since those two mass shootings. The suspects range between 13 and 38 years old. Most are white males. Most made the threats on social media.

So, what signs should people be looking for?

SCHWEIT: Well, I think, as long as they don't profile, right, as long as they don't say it must be this type of person and -- or that type of person, I think that's the most important thing. You -- because you want to make sure that you look for everybody around you, male, female, young, old, rural, urban, young -- you know, in whatever category, whether a student or not.

But what are you looking for? You're looking for behaviors. You need to look for somebody who is withdrawing from society. Their conduct is atypical. You -- friends, family, peers, teachers, coworkers, bosses, that's who know -- that -- those are the people who can see when somebody's behavior becomes atypical.



KATHERINE SCHWEIT, CONSULTANT AND SPEAKER ON WORKPLACE VIOLENCE: -- context is atypical your friends, family, teachers, co-workers bosses that who know - those are the people who can see when somebody's behavior becomes a typical.

And so whatever that person's typical behavior is that - and they suddenly start acting differently, they withdraw from society and they start talking about - they have suicidal comments and they start talking about somebody should do something about this or somebody should do something about those people who - those kind of atypical language.

And then on top of that the actions, where may begin to do things like acquire ammunition, they acquire more guns. They go to the range more often than they usually go to the range if they do carry a weapon or if they do own weapons. It's not owning a weapon it's the atypical behavior behind owning a weapon.

It's not being on social media. It's the atypical behavior of suddenly starting to search for and idolize and talk about how people who have committed these acts are really the real heroes or particular behaviors that have to do with hate groups. Those are all things that you need to look for and you also need to report them.

CABRERA: Okay. That's important information. Katherine Schweit, thank you very much for taking the time. This week we heard the President refer to himself as the chosen one. What did evangelical voter's think of both parties think about it their frank conversation next? You're live in the CNN Newsroom.



CABRERA: Evangelical voters are a core constituents here for President Trump. He took 81 percent of their vote in 2016. That this week he tested that support by saying among other things saying he was, "The chosen one" to take on China and re-tweeting a far-right conspiracy theorist who compared him to the king of Israel.

So does this behavior change any evangelical minds about voting for him in 2020? To find out, CNN's Randi Kaye gathered nine evangelical Christians, in Charlotte, North Carolina, most we should note were Republicans but the group also included one Democrat and two voters not affiliated with either party.

Some in the group do have political ties including one Former State Representative and another who has volunteered for various campaigns and one who worked for the Clinton Administration. Here's their conversation.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think any of us are looking for a Pastor in Chief.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know. I think we're looking for a Commander in Chief.

RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Evangelical Christians in Charlotte, North Carolina, weighing in on campaign 2020 and President Donald Trump.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many of you at this point do plan to vote for Donald Trump? One, two, three, four.

KAYE: Four support Trump. Four are still undecided and one will absolutely not vote for Trump.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This man is not morally sound as a leader. As a Christian.

KAYE: Trump's recent comments calling Jewish people disloyal if they vote Democratic is a turn off to some in our group.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do you make of that statement?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As a Trump supporter, I think he was out of line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does it offend any of you that the President seems to be treating this vast religious group the Jewish people in this case as a monolithic voting bloc?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What bothers me is any time a religious group is lumped together so that they can be lobbied as if they are all going to vote one way.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are not monolithic and that's what part of Trump's problem is even when he refers to immigration or whatever he'll go Hispanics. They're not monolithic.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this rhetoric dangerous?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is not new rhetoric. It's just that we have a President now who speaks plainly. It does not make him a racist.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When critics of Donald Trump call him a white supremacist and call him a racist, you disagree?


KAYE: This evangelical voter isn't sold on Trump, but she's happy he's calling attention to issues she says Democrats are ignoring like undocumented workers taking housing from African-Americans who need it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He talks about that. Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room. Illegal immigration, immigration, nobody wants to talk about it. There is not a city in America that is black folks are not on these streets. Go see charlotte. People who look like me are on the literal streets.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you okay with supporting Donald Trump?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are imperfect. We are going to offend one another. He is not the Pastor at Friendship Missionary Baptist Church. He is my President.

KAYE: Trump has been married three times and has said he has never asked for forgiveness from God and was one's pro-choice but none of that seems to sway his evangelical supporters.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you able to look past Donald Trump's flaws and support him?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because it's not my place to judge his heart.

KAYE: And this week when the President referred to himself as the chosen one, echoing what some evangelical leaders have said about him that certainly caught this group's attention.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When we ask the question is he the chosen one? For what? To help our trade agreements with China? Maybe. Is he the guy that's going to help us solve racism in America? Heck no!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Part of your faith includes forgiveness. Can you forgive the President for some of the things that he said? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. I forgive him absolutely, but I still have to stand the gap for those who are brutalized on a regular basis and who are left behind.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you forgive the President?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have that as a central tenet of our faith.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't have to agree, but I can certainly forgive.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is nothing that cannot get under God's umbrella.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: God is a God of forgiveness.

KAYE: Randi Kaye, CNN, Charlotte, North Carolina.


CABRERA: Just a programming note. Tomorrow night CNN will have back- to-back live Democratic Presidential Town Halls. Montana Governor Steve Bullock takes the stage first at 6.00 pm with my colleague Allison Camerota and then I'll moderate a conversation with New York Mayor Bill De Blasio at 7:00 tomorrow night only on CNN. Coming up, the cancer scare leaving the future of the Supreme Court hanging in the balance.



CABRERA: Just yesterday we learned of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's new battle with Pancreatic cancer, surveying is just the latest remainder of how much weight her seat carries on the High Court. Ginsburg leave the liberal side of the bench which currently leans conservative 5-4, if she were to step down it would hand the President the third Supreme Court appointment of his term. President Trump sent his prayers to Ginsburg ahead of his departure for the G7 Summit in France.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Well I hope she does really well. Our thoughts and prayers are with her and it's a very serious situation. I'm - I'm hoping she's going to be fine. She's pulled through a lot. She's strong, very tough, but we wish her well, very well.


CABRERA: Let's bring in CNN Supreme Court Analyst, Joan Biskupic. Joan, what does Ginsburg's seat signify for both sides of the aisle?

JOAN BISKUPIC, CNN SUPREME COURT ANALYST: Well, it's so important Ana. She is the senior liberal on this very tightly-divided court. Conservatives do control in many of the closely divided cases, but she has worked hard with those on the left to stop the conservative majority from rolling back liberal precedents from the 1960s and 70s.

So far, most notably, the 1973 decision Roe V. Wade that made abortion legal nationwide, and you mentioned that President Trump has already had two appointees, but as you know, those two appointees Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh succeeded conservative jurists.


BISKUPIC: If Ruth Bader Ginsburg felt the need to step down and Donald Trump got a third appointment it would be far more significant because this individual would be succeeding someone very much entrenched on the left, and in fact, she is - she is sort of the left word poll with Justice Sonia Sotomayor on this bench and it would tip dramatically to the right and change the law in America.

CABRERA: We know Justice Ginsburg took in a Broadway show on Thursday evening. She has a speaking engagement on Monday it doesn't sound like she plans on slowing down, does it?

BISKUPIC: It doesn't, and each time she has survived cancer she's come back with a renewed sense of mission. She believes very much in being visible and as we heard on Friday, the cancer has been treated and apparently eliminated and her feeling is get out there, live each day to the fullest. She hasn't canceled any of her upcoming commitments and fully expects to be back on the bench on the traditional first Monday in October.

CABRERA: She's 86. She's been on the bench for 26 years. Do you think retirement has crossed her mind at this point?

BISKUPIC: I think that she knows it would possibly loom, but if she can get up each morning, put on the black robe, put on one of her many collars including the dissenting collar she often wear, she's coming in. She's not going to go.

I do not see Ruth Bader Ginsburg leaving the court, if she can help it, while President Donald Trump - while Donald Trump is President because she knows what the consequences could be for America?

CABRERA: She stood up for women's rights for decades. As someone who has followed her closely, what else would she want to accomplish before she hangs up her robe?

BISKUPIC: I think that's a great question, and I think definitely she would not want a rollback of abortion rights. I think she would also want to make sure that she helped hold the line on some of President Trump's bolder policy initiatives that are now being challenged.

She also, Ana, was one of five votes, a bare majority for same-sex marriage and I think she wouldn't want any change on that. And also picking up on what you said about her very busy speaking schedule. I think she wants to stay out there, be visible and remind people that there are three women on this nine member Supreme Court. CABRERA: She's pretty amazing person. Joan Biskupic, thank you so much. Many studies show that too much screen time can be unhealthy for young people, but this CNN hero is teaming up with hospitals to make screen time healing time.

As a high school student working out of his parent's basement, Jack Weigel (ph) set out to prove that gamers can also be do-gooders. Today he's making video games a part of recovery for sick kids all across the country.


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CABRERA: To see Jack and his gaming team and healing action go to We have some breaking news just in to CNN, reports of multiple injuries at the PGA Tour Championship in Atlanta after bad weather moves in. Stay with us.



CABRERA: We are following breaking news. Multiple people injured after lightning strikes at the PGA Tour Championship in Atlanta. Let's get right out to Patrick Snell CNN Anchor of World Sport. Patrick, what happened?

PATRICK SNELL, CNN ANCHOR, WORLD SPORT: Yes. Ana, welcome to East Lake really disturbing scenes here at the 2019 Tour Championship. Behind me there around the 15th and 16th greens two lightning strikes this according to the USPGA in a statement with lightning striking a tree near the 16th green, the par 4 hole.

And debris from that causing the injuries, injuring four people in that particular incident. A total of six. Now we have also witnessed emergency services here out on the course which is hosting this $15 million event.

Police vehicles as well and what I can tell you Ana is that the organizers here of this FedEx Cup Final have announced suspended play for this day, Saturday. It will resume at 8:00 in the morning on Sunday. But huge concern here.

The good news, if we can take and can take the positive according to the statement it does say that according to our latest report their injuries do not appear to be life threatening that is according to the statement and that the tournament organizers took the decision to suspend play for the day due to the safety of their fans, players and partners being of the utmost importance.

I just want to remain of you is that lightning and golf courses have been an issue front and center this year. Earlier this year at the U.S. Womens' Open lightning striking a tree there in video that went absolutely viral during that particular event in Charleston, South Carolina. Disrupting play on the second day of that particular event. Disturbing scenes here and we are monitoring events very closely indeed to see how it all pans out moving forward in to Sunday as well.

CABRERA: And Patrick I understand players had already left the golf course because of the weather moving in. Was there any efforts to get spectators out of danger?

SNELL: What we do know is that the players had to arrive just after 4:15 pm local time here in Atlanta for the second day running, the weather kicked in and play was suspended. So their rounds have been disrupted. But this is very much secondary when you consider fans and fan safety.

We are now understanding that people have been evacuated from the course for their own safety. That is now confirmed we can tell you as the situation plays out here at East Lake in Atlanta.


CABRERA: As far as you can remember has anything like this happened at a PGA event before? You mentioned the women. An event like this, I guess, similar circumstances?

SNELL: Absolutely surreal. It is nothing that I've ever witnessed quite like this. I can give some personal insight to it I was actually inside the media center. That is insignificant when you reflect of what was being going out there on the course as I say in that area close to the 15th and the 16th hole where there is a fan zone as well near that area near to 16 Ana.

But the media center, I can tell you I was walking across it and it absolutely not only was it absolutely hugely, hugely loud. The whole building just shaking incessantly. It was at that point that our first thoughts were going out to people on the course and just what is going on.

CABRERA: Sounds scary. Patrick Snell thank you for that update. Good to hear, believed non-life threatening injuries, thank goodness. I'm Ana Cabrera in New York. I will be back in about two hours from now. My colleague S.E. Cupp continues our coverage of today's news right after a quick break. Don't go anywhere.

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