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Warren Surges, Biden's Lead Fades In Tight Iowa Race; President Trump Spins Baseless Theories On Whistleblower Mystery; Shooting In Indianapolis Injures Six, Suspect Not In Custody; Washington Student Calls 911 To Report Bus Driver For DUI; Man Dies During Ill-Fated Underwater Marriage Proposal; Saudi Diplomat: "Act Of War" If Oil Attack Launched From Iran; Dozens Injured After 5.6 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Albania; Iran Says It Will Destroy Any Aggressor If Attacked; African-American Student Sues Neo-Nazi Trolls And Wins; Hollywood Honors T.V.'s Biggest Stars Tonight; #3 Georgia Holds Off #7 Notre Dame In Final Minute; UCLA Beats #19 Washington State In Epic Comeback; Report Shows Teams Interested In Antonio Brown; Surfer Has Close Encounter With Great White Shark. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired September 22, 2019 - 06:00   ET




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president faces this whistleblower complaint. He is calling it the Ukraine witch hunt.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The drum beat for impeachment grows louder and louder.

JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power.

SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is time for us to start impeachment proceedings right now!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Saudi Arabia intensifying its rhetoric against Iran more than a week after an attack on its oil facilities.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This would be considered an act of war.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A student reported Catherine Maccarone wasn't acting like herself, smelled like alcohol and ran three red lights.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just got off the bus, me and my friend. Our bus driver, she was drunk.


ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY WEEKEND with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Good Sunday morning. Good to be with you.

And we begin with Senator Elizabeth Warren. Surging in a new CNN poll. Neck and neck now with Vice President Joe Biden.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes. Warren and Biden both well ahead of the other candidates we should point out.

Want to get straight to CNN's Jessica Dean in Des Moines. Jessica, good morning to you.

JESSICA DEAN, CNN WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Victor and Christi. That's right. We are getting these new results of polling here in Iowa from our CNN/Des Moines Register poll and they really show a tightening race right there at the top.

You just explained it. A surging Elizabeth Warren really challenging the dominance of Joe Biden here in the Hawkeye State.

Let's look at some of these numbers. We've got Warren ns coming at 22 percent then you see Biden at 20 percent. And I want to note that means when you consider the margin of error that is really neck and neck. That is a dead heat. No clear winner between the two of them but certainly very tight there at the top.

And then you see Bernie Sanders, the closest candidate following Biden at 11 percent. And if you dig into these numbers you really see that Warren has gone up by 7 percent since June, Biden has come down by three, Sanders by five. You really see that Warren is taking support from Sanders supporters when you dig into those.

Let's take a look at liberal versus moderate Democrats here in Iowa. When you consider Warren and Biden there -- take a look at these numbers Warren 34 percent of support from people who consider themselves liberal Democrats to 10 percent of moderates. And then when you look at Biden it's almost exactly the same numbers slipped which is very interesting.

And then if you look at voters who are 65 and older, this is where Biden is incredibly strong and continues to remain strong. You see he is taking 35 percent of support from voters who are over 65 to Warren's 12 percent. Everybody else in the single digits so that's really where Biden is getting a lot of his key support is from voters 65 and older and then also from these moderate and more conservative Democrats.

And then I want to take a look at this last piece of data to show you which are you supporting or considering supporting this candidate? And when you look at that again Warren coming in on top 71 percent of people here in Iowa who are Democrats considering a candidate.

Warren at 71 percent, Biden at 60. You see Buttigieg, Harris and Sanders all in there in the 50s. But what's really interesting you guys about this poll if you zoom out for the really big picture is that only 20 percent of voters say that they have their minds made up.

So a lot of room for candidates to kind of move and get support here or there because, right now, there is fluidity in this race. So a lot of people still looking around. We were at the Iowa state fair yesterday where 17 candidates pitched themselves to voters. I talked to a lot of voters there and it was funny because if you're wearing one person's t-shirt with another person's button, a lot of people still shopping around, but right now, the takeaway a very tight -- a tightening race there at the top between Warren and Biden -- Victor and Christi.

BLACKWELL: Well, they still have plenty of time to make up their minds. Jessica Dean for us there. Jessica, thank you.

PAUL: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Well, speaking of Senator Warren the Massachusetts senator took swings at Congress yesterday calling on them again to start impeachment proceedings against the president.



WARREN: Donald Trump has made clear that he does not respect the rule of law. Congress has one responsibility on this and that is to (INAUDIBLE) --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch out for the street. Watch out!

WARREN: -- the impeachment proceedings. This is about Donald Trump and his belief that he is above the law. He is not and it's up to Congress to hold him accountable.


PAUL: And another well-known Democrat is calling out her own party for not impeaching President Trump yet.

BLACKWELL: Last night Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted, "At this point, the bigger national scandal isn't the president's lawbreaking behavior it is the Democratic Party's refusal to impeach him for it."

White House Reporter, Sarah Westwood joins us now from Washington.

Sarah, former Vice President Joe Biden is at the center of this controversy that the president is pushing. What is he saying about this now? Is he calling for impeachment?

SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Good morning, Victor and Christi.

And former Vice President is stopping short of calling for impeachment but he is calling for President Trump to be investigated. And he said based on what the House finds, perhaps the president should be impeached but not going as far as Senator Elizabeth Warren and some other fellow Democrats who have called for the president's impeachment consistently, but also in the wake of this newest scandal stemming from a July 25th phone call President Trump had with Ukrainian president Zelensky in which the president allegedly pressed the Ukrainian leader to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son.

Now Biden had a strong reaction yesterday at the Iowa fair where he was at. He was asked about this. He said that President Trump is only attempting to smear him because he's afraid he could lose to Biden in the 2020 election. Take a listen.


BIDEN: Trump is doing this he knows I'll beat him like a drum and he's using the abusive power in every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me.

This appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power. To get on the phone with a foreign leader who is looking for help from the United States and ask about me and imply things, if that is what happened.


WESTWOOD: The House Democrats are trying to get their hand on the whistleblower complaint that sparked this latest controversy. They could get some answers later this week, Victor and Christi, when acting intelligence director Joseph Maguire appears before law makers to face their questions.

PAUL: So, Sarah, we know that the president was on a tweet storm yesterday. He was talking about all kinds of things related to this, with Ukraine's president and the complaint -- and making a lot of accusations. But he one thing that's really striking here is he has not denied having this conversation, right?

WESTWOOD: That's right. And he was even asked about it directly this week. And he said it doesn't matter what I've spoken to the president of Ukraine about. Not denying when faced with that direct question whether he did talk about former Vice President Joe Biden's son but we see the president employing now a similar strategy that he used during the Russia investigation. He has even labeled this latest situation a Ukraine witch hunt echoing his refrain during what he described as the Russia witch hunt.

He has floated a series of conspiracy theories. He has attacked the media, invokes the deep state this conspiracy theory that there are those within this government working against him. So we are seeing President Trump return for a familiar playbook here, Victor and Christi.

PAUL: All right. Sarah Westwood, always appreciate it. Thank you.

So, as she was saying and we were just talking about, this Twitter feed that the president was on yesterday to try to get his version of the events out there posting a series of tweets yesterday, implying that the whistleblower was an American spy that maybe that person had already been spying on the president himself.

BLACKWELL: Yes. President Trump also tweeted about a crooked and demented deep state and dubbed the whistleblower controversy as you heard from Sarah the Ukraine witch hunt. PAUL: CNN Chief Media Correspondent, Brian Stelter with us from New York now. Brian, good morning to you.


PAUL: So, a lot of questions if the president is deliberately just trying to confuse people because he has not denied having this conversation.

STELTER: I think he is trying to confuse people. He's trying to throw up like of a fog, kind of a smoke screen think of it that way in order to get folks not to know what to believe when it comes to this story and especially about this whistleblower.

It is so frustrating. We have been talking about this whistleblower mystery more than a week now. And it's still unclear exactly what this whistleblower is alleging but so far according to news reports from CNN elsewhere we know it at least partly involves this call with the Ukrainian leader.

There were other issues as well. Other complaint that are a part of the whistleblower's message that we have not heard about yet and all of this is being stonewalled by the Trump administration.

The president is trying to diverge attention from that whistleblower complaint and on to other topics and I think it's getting a lot of talking points from his friends on Fox News from Jeanine Pirro and from others who are telling or suggesting to him that maybe this is a spy inside your own government.


What is ludicrous about that of course is that these are intelligence community officials who are on presidential calls, who have been on presidential phone calls for decades. There are transcripts of these calls. This is all normal and the president acknowledged that a couple of days ago.

He said he knows that when he has a call with a foreign leader that many people are listening from the government taking notes, et cetera, trying to help him in whatever way they can perform his functions as commander in chief.

The president changed from that reality now to these talking points about a spy, about a deep state actor. This is the kind of stuff that has been debunked many times but does I think resonates with some people that listen to the Sean Hannitys of the world. And so that is the tactic. That's the playbook we are seeming to play on this. It is tried and true. In the past it hasn't worked with most Americans but it has worked with his most loyal supporters.

BLACKWELL: But I wonder if this is any different -- as you say this is the playbook. We saw this with my predecessor bugged Trump Tower. Three to 5 million voted illegally. This is something that has happened before.


BLACKWELL: But is this different in those other cases there were investigation of some sort. There were other elements who could come out and say specifically that did not happen. Without the disclosure from the DNI, will Americans get an answer, will they get to the point where there is a definitive there was no spy?

STELTER: That's why the fog is so thick in this particular case and why politician benefit from the confusion. Trump benefits from the confusion, from the mystery at the heart of this case.

But there is one key fact that I think we need to keep putting out front and center and that the inspector general who received this complaint, who shared it with the acting director of National Intelligence who wants it to be released to Congress, this inspector general is a Trump appointee. This is not a person who we have any reason to believe, anything to do with a plot against the president.

Of course, even that language, that kind of language out of a TV drama or a movie plays into the president's narrative that people are out to get him and I think we can argue whether that is legitimate at all or not. But this is a Trump appointee inspector general who is concerned enough to want to make sure this gets to Congress.

I keep going back to that as we think about the number of days where there has been stonewalling in this case and maybe in the coming few days we will see a breakthrough. Democrats have -- they have a hearing scheduled. They say they are going to take serious action in this case. Time will tell if they do or not.

BLACKWELL: All right. Brian Stelter, thank you.

STELTER: Thanks.

BLACKWELL: And be sure to watch Stelter's show "RELIABLE SOURCES" today at 11:00 a.m. Eastern right here on CNN.

PAUL: With some breaking overnight. Greek police have just arrested a Lebanese man in connection with a plane hijacking that dates all the way back to 1985.

BLACKWELL: So, if you're not familiar with this case terrorist seize control of a Trans World Airlines flight 847 while it was in route from Athens to Rome. This was June of '85.

PAUL: More than 100 passengers were kept on board that plane for 17 days before they were being gradually released in stages but one passenger, a member of the U.S. Navy was killed and his body was dumped on the tarmac.

BLACKWELL: Police say the suspect was stopped during a routine security check and after his description matched those on a German warrant for his arrest. Next hour we're going live to Athens for more on this investigation.

PAUL: And CNN has a one-on-one with a top Saudi Arabian diplomat. His take on the tensions with Iran and what may come next.

BLACKWELL: Plus, listen to this. An American couple's romantic vacation ends in tragedy. What we are learning about this heartbreaking marriage proposal.

PAUL: And a young target of online hate who had the courage to stand up to fight back and won.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I rocked in fetal position sobbing and crying to the point where I had to take a screen shot of the email and send it to my mom and dad because I couldn't talk.




PAUL: So, breaking overnight. Police in Indianapolis are investigating a shooting that left six people injured.

BLACKWELL: So, this shooting happened last night just blocks from the city's entertainment district. Authorities say some of the victims are teenagers, but they have not released their names or their ages.

Investigators do not believe the shooting is gang-related. At this time, police are looking for one suspect.

Police in Washington State say a student called 911 to report his bus driver for drunk driving.

PAUL: Police arrested the driver on September 12th after she completed two trips carrying students. Students were on board the bus at the time she was arrested but listen here to part of the 911 call.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just got off the bus me and my friend and on bus 8 our bus driver Catherine, she was drunk because she was, like, she passed three red lights and she got on a side -- on the side road by the 76. And there's still kids on there.

And I was telling my friend to get off with me and his sister but the bus driver wouldn't let him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did she smell of alcohol?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Her breath sort of smelled like alcohol.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you said she ran how many red lights?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: About three red lights.

(END AUDIO CLIP) PAUL: The bus driver is on administrative leave while the school district investigates, obviously.

So, what should have been a better romantic proposal, ended just in a horrible way for an American couple who were vacationing in Africa.

Steven Weber and Kenesha Antoine were staying in a cabin with a bedroom submerged beneath the ocean. This was off the coast of Tanzania. Weber swam underwater holding a handwritten note asking her to marry him but he never resurfaced. CNN's Farai Sevenzo has the story.


FARAI SEVENZO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Tragedy struck for an American man who died when he was proposing to his girlfriend under water. He wrote on a note, I can't hold my breath long enough to tell you everything I love about you, but everything I love about you, I love more every day. Will you please be my wife?

Sadly, he didn't resurface and his girlfriend went to post on her Facebook post, "You never emerged from the depths so you never got to hear my answer.


Yes! Yes! A million times, yes. I will marry you!"

But of course he had already died. She went on to say, we never got embrace and celebrate the beginning of the rest of our lives together as the best day of our lives turned into the worst in the cruelest twist of fate imaginable.

The U.S. State Department confirmed that a U.S. tourist had died in Tanzania and, of course, this has touched many people across social media.

Farai Sevenzo, CNN Nairobi.


BLACKWELL: Saudi Arabia blames Iran for the strikes on its oil facilities and if they are proven right, they say it would have been an act of war. Our interview with the top Saudi diplomat is next.

PAUL: And, listen, there were dozens of people injured after a powerful earthquake hit Albania overnight. We have an update for you ahead.


BLACKWELL: A top Saudi diplomat tells CNN that it would be considered an act of war if confirmed that Iran launched that attack in its oil facilities. The Pentagon says they have evidence that drones and cruise missiles used were produced by Iran.


PAUL: CNN's Nic Robertson sat down with the Saudi minister of state for foreign affairs to address the incident and what happens now.


NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What do you want Iran to do now? And if their politicians are in New York this week, they represent the country, what can they do?

ADEL AL-JUBEIR, FORMER MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF SAUDI ARABIA: We want Iran to behave like a normal nation. We want Iran to stop being a revolution and be a nation state. We want Iran to stop interfering in the affairs of other countries and supporting terrorist groups and we want them to stop providing ballistic missiles to terrorists groups. And we want them to make sure that they are never in a position to acquire a nuclear weapon.

We want them to be good neighbors. We want to have good relations with Iran. We want to trade with them but we can't do this if all we get from them is death and destruction.

For 40 years we have tried to extend our hand of friendship the Iranians and all wet got was death and destruction.

ROBERTSON: Are we on the threshold of military response? Do you believe?

AL-JUBEIR: We don't want war. The U.S. doesn't want war but it's up to the Iranians if they keep continuing along this path then they risk the possibility of military action. But nobody wants war. Everybody wants to resolve this peacefully. And the end result has to be an end to Iran's aggressive policies.

ROBERTSON: I don't see the difference at the moment, if you don't mind me saying of Iran producing these weapons and then waiting for an investigation to find out where they were fired from because surely it all amounts to the same thing that you're going to come to the same point. Eventually are you playing for time by saying that we are investigating right now when you perhaps have a very strong inclination?

AL-JUBEIR: We hold Iran responsible because the missiles and the drones that were fired at Saudi Arabia are not only against Abqaia and Khurais but also from Yemen were Iranian built and Iranian delivered missiles so we hold them responsible. To launch an attack from your territory, if that is the case, puts us in a different category.

ROBERTSON: What is the different category?

AL-JUBEIR: This would be considered an act of war.


PAUL: And thank you to Nic Robertson for that there. There are dozens of people are recovering from injuries this morning after a 5.6 magnitude earthquake hit Albania. The earthquake lasted just a few seconds. The tremors were extremely strong though.

BLACKWELL: According to the Ministry of Defense, this is considered the strongest earthquake in the last 20 to 30 years. So far, there are no reported deaths but plenty of buildings were damaged.

PAUL: She was terrorized by neo-Nazis but decided she was not going to back down. Now they are apologizing and paying the price. We have the story for you next.



BLACKWELL: Thirty-one minutes after the hour.

The head of the Elite Revolutionary Guard in Iran says that they will pursue any aggressor and seek to destroy them even if there was a limited attack on them.

PAUL: This comes on the heels of the U.S. announcing that it will send additional troops to Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates in response to that Saudi oil attack. And the Defense Secretary Mark Esper says, the troops would be, quote, defensive in nature and primarily focused on air missile defense.

BLACKWELL: CNN Senior International Correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh is in Iran following these developments. Nick?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: At the moment though, the avenue, as you said there, diplomacy seems to be slightly slim.

Now, we know that Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, and his foreign minister, Javad Zarif, or the latter (ph) in New York, the former (ph), on their way to New York for the U.N. General Assembly. They said they will be presenting some kind of (INAUDIBLE) peace initiative there.

And then answer to the U.S. news though, they will be sending more troops to Saudi Arabia and the UAE today marking the start to the anniversary, the start of the 80s Iran and Iraq war particularly brutal. This is called holy defense week.

We heard from President Hassan Rouhani how he is reacts to the idea that there are more U.S. troops on the way.


HASSAN ROUHANI, IRANIAN PRESIDENT: We announced to the world that the presence of foreign forces can be problematic and dangerous for the region for international waterways, for maritime security, for oil and energy security. But our path and our way is creating unity in coordination with the region's countries. (END VIDEO CLIP)

WALSH: It does appear though at this stage that chances of military action by the United States are relatively slim.

You heard Donald Trump talking tough about sanctions, sanctions that, frankly, aren't as tough as the way he laid them out to be. You heard him also talk about how there would be more troops on their way here. It does seem as though he is opting for what he calls a strong position of restraint and no military response. Which means, as I say, diplomacy, the possibility of something being sorted by out between Iran and its neighbors shift to New York and the general assembly at the United Nations this coming week.

But also many, I think, are trying to work out exactly what this week has taught everybody in a particularly tense gulf region. Iran is still blamed for this attack by the United States and Saudi Arabia. In fact, we heard this morning the U.K., a key U.S. ally, saying it was implausible that the Houthi Yemeni rebels in Iran says were behind this actually carried out that attack, a matter that will require a lot of technology to get hundreds of miles through Saudi Arabia and air defense.

Still, the question is Iran denies its involvement here, has the fact it's been blamed for it yet escaped some kind military appraisal (ph) left it stronger or has this lesson more broadly been learned everyone around that don't want this particular region to end up in conflict. We'll have to see if the U.N. meetings yield any kind of slowdown in the tension here. Back to you.

PAUL: All right. Nick Paton Walsh, we appreciate it. Thank you.

So we want to tell you about this African-American college student who was terrorized by neo-Nazis. They had nasty tricks on campus and just virtual hate online towards her.

BLACKWELL: So at first, she went into hiding and then she decided to fight back. She took her trolls to court and won.

CNN's Sara Sidner has her remarkable story.


SARA SIDNER, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the first time Taylor Dumpson has sat down and did a television interview after suing and winning her case against the people who were tormenting her online. She actually sat down face-to-face with one of them and received an apology.


Taylor Dumpson's life changed forever within hours of becoming an American first. Dumpson went from being elected American university's first black female student body president in its 125-year history to being plunged into a world of hate. TAYLOR DUMPSON, STUDENT LEADER: I was on my way to campus. I was wearing AKA-like jacket and I ended up having to take it off because the hate crime literally the letters of the sorority on the bananas, and so me wearing that button-down that I had just gotten was -- that was me walking around with a target on my back.

SIDNER: A still unidentified person committed on campus hate crime stringing up bananas with nooses with the initials of the historically black sorority Dumpson belongs to and other racist messages. Days later, she was under attack by neo-Nazis spurred on by Andrew Anglin, the creator of one of the most prolific neo-Nazi websites.

DAVID BRODY, LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS UNDER LAW: He told his many, many followers to basically go get her.

SIDNER: A hate-filled feeding frenzy began when the website published her name, photo, contact information and social media accounts. The Anti-Defamation League was the first to warn Dumpson. They emailed saying she had become a national target for hatred.

DUMPSON: I was alone, home alone. The first thing I did was I closed my blinds. I locked all the doors. I turned all of the lights out and in the way that people tell you when it's a hurricane or a tornado warning, you know, to hide in a hallway and get small and crouch down, that's what I did. I rocked in fetal position sobbing and crying to the point where I had to take a screen shot of the email and send it to my mom and dad because I couldn't talk.

SIDNER: After months of online harassment, she was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress syndrome. Everything from her ability to study to her ability to eat was impacted.

DUMPSON: I was terrified. I didn't know who these people were. I didn't know where they were. I didn't know if they were coming to find me. I didn't know if they knew where I was already.

SIDNER: Dumpson decided to fight back.

With the help of a Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, she sued some of the people investigators could find who trolled her. She sued the website and Anglin, its creator.

SIDNER: What would you say to the Andrew Anglins of the world?

DUMPSON: You picked the wrong one and you picked somebody that wasn't going to back down.

SIDNER: Dumpson won her case.

BRODY: To the best of our knowledge, this is the first court decision in the country that has held that online harassment can interfere with public accommodations.

SIDNER: The judgment equated online harassment with physical harassment.

BRODY: Civil rights laws do not stop where the cloud begins.

SIDNER: Anglin did not respond for comment, neither he nor a representative for his company showed up in court.

The judge handed Dumpson a default $725,000 judgment. And, separately, she received something almost no one does, a face-to-face apology not from Anglin, but from one of the trolls. She agreed not to say his name or exactly the word exchanged as part of a restorative justice settlement.

Online, especially, people want to snap back, right? They want to clap back. They want to attack. And that's not what you did here.

DUMPSON: I think that we always have the opportunity and the possibility to grow. And for me, it was really, really important to even though -- even though you're a white supremacist, even though you're a neo-Nazi, even though you think like this, I don't think you'll always going to think like that and I don't think that it has to be that way.


SIDNER: The man who apologized was the only one who came forward. He also promised to walk away from online hate and do community service.

Now, when it comes to Taylor Dumpson, she was accepted to law school. She is now a law student. But she say she doesn't disclose where because she knows she will always be a target. The hate has not completely stopped.

PAUL: Strong girl. Strong lady.

BLACKWELL: Well done. Sara Sidner, thank you for that.

Okay. Tonight is the night. Television's brightest stars will be honored at the prime time Emmy Awards.

PAUL: What to expect. Tonight, Zachary Pincus-Roth from The Washington Post. Is this going to be (INAUDIBLE)?

BLACKWELL: Is this the way we have to speak when they're playing that music? What to expect, tonight is the night, the Emmys are coming.

All right, we'll talk to Zachary in a moment.



BLACKWELL: Well, that is just --

PAUL: That (INAUDIBLE) take again.

BLACKWELL: That is just magical. Every time they play it, I feel special inside.

PAUL: I feel like we are in the love boat or something is what I feel.

BLACKWELL: Question, can anybody dethrone Game of Thrones? Will Julia Louis-Dreyfus keep up her winning streak with another lead actress win?

PAUL: We're going to find that out tonight when television's biggest starts are honored at the 71st Annual Prime Time Emmy Awards. And with us, Zachary Pincus-Roth, Washington Post Section Editor.

So I want to know, Zachary, from you first and foremost, I mean, we've got a million who signed a petition to get a remake of the final seasons of Game of Thrones. Is it still a lock in the best drama category?

ZACHARY PINCUS-ROTH, STYLE SECTION EDITOR, THE WASHINGTON POST: Yes, I think it is. I mean, yes, as you mentioned, I think a lot of people were not as happy with Game of Thrones in its final season but the show still got 32 nominations which is a record for a show, the most nominations for a show in a single year ever. And I think it will win the drama series Emmy. I think it's pretty much the favorite.

BLACKWELL: Yes. That seems like, you know, honoring the series, honoring the contribution over the eight seasons instead of just season eight. So what are your other pick? We showed a few of them.

PINCUS-ROTH: Yes. So in the dramas, I think it will be -- for actress in a drama, Sandra Oh for Killing Eve. That's the BBC America show, in which she plays a spy hunting an assassin.

And I think also for best actor in a drama, Billy Porter for Pose. That's the show on FX set in the bar (ph) culture of New York in the '80s and '90s. And Billy Porter is a fan favorite and also known for his very elaborate outfits in the red carpet.


And then over on the comedy side, I think for best comedy, it will be The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, which won last year, and that was a year in which actually Veep, which is its top competitor was on hiatus because of Julia Louis-Dreyfus' breast cancer. But I think Marvelous Mrs. Maisel might make it out but Veep is definitely a contender in its final season, which is very well received.

I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus will win for best actress. She has won six times for this role, which is a record for a single role. And this would be her ninth Emmy win and that would set a record for the most wins by a single performer.

And then over for best actor in a comedy, I think it will Bill Hader for Barry, which is a very well received show on HBO about a hit man who becomes an actor and he'll repeat this year, I think.

PAUL: So you line all of that up and you had very -- what do I want to say -- objective viewpoint of his list.

BLACKWELL: So your list is a broadcast shutout. It's the cables and the subscription services.


BLACKWELL: Or streaming services, I should say.

PINCUS-ROTH: Yes, definitely. And in recent year, you know, broadcast has fallen by the wayside in the Emmys and the, you know, premium cable like HBO and the streaming services have really taken charge. This year, HBO had the most nominations. Last year, it was Netflix. They have kind of been in this race.

And as T.V. has gotten more fragmented and there are shows on Netflix and Amazon and Hulu, those are getting a lot of the nominations this year. And some of those are shows that people don't know as well.

BLACKWELL: All right. Zachary Pincus-Roth, good to have you.

PINCUS-ROTH: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: You got a favorite?

PAUL: Well, I actually watched Chernobyl, the limited series, and I was riveted, and I still haven't even seen all of it. I've got it recorded. But it's one of those things you kind of have to be ready to sit down and watch.

BLACKWELL: You have to be ready. I feel that same about my pick for When They See Us. It's a four-part series by Ava DuVernay, fantastic. I love Maisel.

PAUL: Yes, I love Maisel. Yes.

BLACKWELL: Veep was great too.

PAUL: All righty. Just, you know, talk amongst yourself because we all have our favorites.

So, listen, it is a comeback of the college football season and the chances are you missed it.

BLACKWELL: UCLA and Washington State combining for 100 points and then some.

Plus a Cape Cod surfer, pretty close call with a great white shark. And, surprisingly, he is calm through this whole thing.


DEVON ZIMMERMAN, CAPE COD SURFER: I thought this little seal was popping up. I turn around and it was the head of a shark. And then I saw its fin and utterly froze.



BLACKWELL: A record crowd was on hand in Athens, Georgia to watch the Bulldogs beat Notre Dame.

PAUL: Andy Scholes has more in this morning's bleacher report.


PAUL: Good morning.

SCHOLES: Fans have been looking forward to this game for years. There's a big one, top ten matchup, Georgia coming in ranked third and Notre Dame seventh.

Two years ago, the Bulldogs went up to South Bend and beat the Fighting Irish, so Notre Dame looking for a little revenge in this one. They were more than two touchdown underdogs but they took a 10-7 lead into halftime and that's when the Bulldogs got it together, Jake Fromm leading Georgia for 16 unanswered points in that second half, the defense trying to hold on at the end of this one. Notre Dame going for the Hail Mary, they chased Ian Book out of the pocket and his pass coming up well-short.

Georgia wins 23-17 in front of a record crowd, more than 93,000 in Athens. And Notre Dame now lost 11 straight against top five opponents.

Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew back in his old stopping grounds watching Washington State play UCLA, and Minshew rocking solid jorts at the game. He said he cut them himself.

It looks like he is going to watch his alma mater into a blowout win. Washington State was up 49-17 halfway through the third quarter, 32 points. But UCLA then made an epic comeback. Dorian Thompson- Robinson, Demetric Felton for a touchdown just over a minute left, and that would put the Bruins up for good. 67-63 was your final. More than 1,300 yards of offense in that one, 130 points combined of Pac-12 record.

All right, two days after being cut by the New England Patriots, a few teams are interested in signing Antonio Brown. Those teams want more information regarding his legal situation and the NFL investigation. Now, that news is according to what Brown's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has told Adam Schefter of ESPN.

The Patriots, they cut Brown on Friday. The NFL says their investigation is ongoing. Brown's former trainer, Britney Taylor, has accused him of sexual assault in 2017 and rape in 2018. Another woman has accused Brown of sexual harassment in 2017. Brown denies all of those allegations and he has not been charged with any crimes.

Finally, the main event at UFC Mexico City called off after just 15 seconds after Yair Rodriguez accidentally poked Jeremy Stephens in the eye. And as you can imagine, the fans, they were not very happy about the short match. They rained down boos and were throwing drinks and beers at the flyers as they left the octagon.

You know, you never want to see that, guys, but you can kind of understand being a little upset when the main event lasted 15 second. PAUL: Yes. They are thinking, I paid for this?

BLACKWELL: Yes. Ticket isn't cheap, neither was the beer that you throw. And I can understand that you paid $9 for the beverage, finish it.

SCHOLES: At that point, you've got to (INAUDIBLE).

BLACKWELL: Quick chug, you can do it.

PAUL: All right. Listen, we have this occasionally segment that we like to call All of a Sudden.

BLACKWELL: All of a Sudden.

PAUL: All of a sudden, because that's when things get good. And we only use it when it's warranted in stories. So if you're in the mood for maybe surfing, you want to paddle out, minding your own business, and then --

BLACKWELL: All of a sudden, you're looking over your shoulder and a great white shark's fin. Look at this.


ZIMMERMAN: It was pure shock and you see it literally the moment where I recognized what's going on. And my only response is to lift my feet out of the water and drop my jaw.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Devon Zimmerman on that moment he saw the great white.

ZIMMERMAN: I had only been out in the water for only two minutes and I thought this little seal was popping up. I turn around and it was actually the head of the shark and I saw his dorsal fin and utterly froze.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Back on the sand, the man who captured that image, Joe Mault, shouted a warning, held his breath and kept shooting.

JOE MAULT, PHOTOGRAPHER: It was definitely tense. It felt tense. And he very calmly turned around and paddled back in.

ZIMMERMAN: I thought, okay, I don't want to splash too much to bring too much attention to myself, but I also need to go very fast.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How hard was your heart pounding?

ZIMMERMAN: Oh, my God, I mean, I didn't -- it's still pounding. I mean, I don't think I've actually sort of found myself calm and collected.

(END VIDEO CLIP) BLACKWELL: That's why I don't surf.

PAUL: That's why?

BLACKWELL: That's why.

SCHOLES: So I've been, you know, snorkeling before. After all the stories we do, I don't think I'm ever going into the deep ocean ever again. Now, deep ocean, I mean, by not very far out.

BLACKWELL: Andy, there's a story to lead us to do nothing.

PAUL: Nothing, just sit at home and lock ourselves in the house.

BLACKWELL: After all of the stories we do, All of a Sudden though really is the best part of every story. It leads into the interesting part of --

PAUL: It is. I'm just glad he is okay.

BLACKWELL: Yes, we should say that too.

PAUL: And I just think I don't (INAUDIBLE) to turn around. I think I would just --

BLACKWELL: Well, I'm glad he made it out.

PAUL: We all are. All of a Sudden. Andy, thank you.

SCHOLES: Yes. All of a Sudden, screaming.

PAUL: Exactly.

All right, thank you so much for starting your morning with us.

BLACKWELL: We've got much more ahead in the next hour of your New Day. It starts after a quick break.