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Violence Erupts in Hong Kong on China's National Day; New Revelations as U.S. Impeachment Probe Heats Up; House Democrats Subpoena Giuliani for Ukraine Documents; Trump Trying to Find Out Whistleblowers Identity; Saudi Crown Prince Denies Ordering Khashoggi Murder; 18-Year-Old Man Shop By Hong Kong Police; Interview with Emily Lau, Former Chairwoman, Hong Kong's Democratic Party, Protesters Want Democracy and Freedom. Aired 10a-11p ET

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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: A tale of two cities. Violent protests erupt in Hong Kong as Beijing celebrates 70 years of China. CNN on the ground in

both for you this hour.

Plus --

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're trying to find out about a whistleblower. We've got a whistleblower that reports things that

were incorrect.

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ANDERSON: Those words from the U.S. President as some of his key allies are drawn into the impeachment battle. We'll get you to Washington for a

closer look at all the President's men.

Well, it's 10:00 in the morning in D.C., 10:00 at night in Hong Kong, it's 6:00 p.m. here in Abu Dhabi. A very good evening, you're watching CONNECT

THE WORLD with me Becky Anderson.

We start with a tale of two cities marking China's National Day. We start with two very different cities in different ways. In Beijing, order and

control. In Hong Kong, chaos and anarchy. You can see the stark contrasts right here. It's been a day of sometimes violent clashes between

protesters and police in Hong Kong. More than 50 people are reported injury, two of them critically.

Whereas in Beijing festive celebrations and a message of unity from the President there, Xi Jinping telling his country no force can shake this

great nation. But in Hong Kong a special administrative region seeking greater independence from mainland China, the question is anybody

listening?

Anna Coren has been on the streets of Hong Kong all day covering these protests. Anna, a day of chaotic demonstrations continuing, as I

understand it, into the night. Just describe what you've seen and what you've heard?

ANNA COREN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Becky, we were expecting fireworks, some explosions to go off very shortly. We're standing outside the Macau police

station. There you go, celebrations and fireworks that were banned actually here in Hong Kong. So protesters are having their irons,

fireworks. But it has been a day of violence.

Just a short time ago police on top of the building where you can see the lasers. There are a bunch of police. That is the Macau police station.

They were firing tear gas. Yes, but as I say the clashes have been constant throughout the day. Certainly here on the Kowloon side, which is

where we are, police and protesters playing a game of cat and mouse in this area. Protesters throwing petrol bombs. They were doing it right next to

us. Police responding with multiple rounds of tear gas.

And then we learned that earlier this afternoon around 4:00, an 18-year-old man, a male protester that he was shot with a live round in (INAUDIBLE).

This was about 15 minutes from where we are. Police officers have used live rounds but as warning shots over the past 17 weeks. No one has

actually been shot with live rounds. So this, Becky, we are anticipating will be quite a turning point in these protests.

The protesters we've spoken to are angered, they're furious that a police officer opened fired point-blank range at this protester. The protester in

the video you can see him hitting the police officer with a metal pole. Police say that his life was in danger as other police officers, was just

why he fired a live round. But obviously, that is something that will no doubt be investigated -- Becky.

ANDERSON: And you said demonstrators will be infuriated by what has happened. What are they telling you, and what do they want at this point?

COREN: Well, Becky, as we know this has morphed into so much more. This began as a movement, a protest against the extradition bill which would

have allowed the extradition to mainland China. More than 2 million people took to the streets to protest this. But since then, even though that bill

has been formally withdrawn, this has morphed into a fight for freedom, Hong Kong's freedom.

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These protesters want universal suffrage. They want boo be able to vote for their elected chief executive. They want to enjoy the freedoms that

they have always enjoyed, and there has been an encroachment from China on Hong Kong.

We are anticipating the police, and they are. They're moving towards us now. The riot police, Becky, are getting ready. They've got their

flashlights looking at the protesters. No doubt the sign will come up very soon that tear gas will be fired. In which case we'll have to put on your

gas mask.

But this has been something that's been going on for 17 weeks, Becky. And as I say this is now a fight for Hong Kong's freedom, for its independence.

They do not identify with China. They continue to say Hong Kong is not part of China. And this is something that on a day like today which is the

70th anniversary of the Communist Party, it's a National Day of celebration obviously on the mainland. Here in Hong Kong they say that it is a

National Day of mourning here and that. If they don't take to the streets, if they don't continue fighting for the freedoms of Hong Kong, then China

will just take over. So they are here for a fight.

If you need to just stop and put that gas mask on, please do. Yes, absolutely. I'm just going to wrap what we've been discussing as you put

that mask on. Protests in Hong Kong after a day of celebration, of course, in Beijing for the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's

Republic of China. Protests as you see here in front of your eyes continue into the night. It's been an extremely chaotic day.

Anna's been on the streets with protesters, with police all day. I think she's probably got her gas mask on now. And anna, just describe what you

are seeing and what you expect to happen next? Because this isn't the first time, is it, that you've witnessed these scenes?

COREN: Normally, Becky, we've been (INAUDIBLE) a month now I hope you can hear me. And we've been following these been following these protests for

months. And Becky, actually, we've discovered -- here we go.

So, we thought the police were coming from the police station. The actual fact they've apt to charge here which is why the protesters have suddenly

dispersed. These are the guys who tackle the protesters to the ground, and as you can see, they've gotten their guns in place. Whether these are

rubber bullets or tear gas. And looks like proper firearms. Do we know what they are? (INAUDIBLE) they've been using pepper spray and this is

what happens. It's intense so is just like one-minute protesters are standing around. The next thing there is loud cries and that goes plus

charge.

More than 1,700 people have been arrested today, dozens more will have been arrested tonight. And we know, too, that more than 50 people are in

hospitals after what happened here today. Two are critical.

OK, we're going to follow the rest of them immediately after the fire. This has now become (INAUDIBLE), Becky, here in Hong Kong. This is a

global financial center, home to the headquarters of more than 1,300 companies and regional headquarters right here in Hong Kong. And this is

what is happening on the streets every single weekend, protesters setting fire, protesters throwing petrol bomb, throwing bricks at police,

vandalizing public property and police responding with tear gas, rubber bullets. This is now Hong Kong, Becky. This is now Hong Kong 17 weeks in.

ANDERSON: This is absolutely remarkable stuff, isn't it? As Anna is just describing. She has a gas mask on obviously, so it's difficult to hear

what she is saying. But let me just repeat for those of you who might not have got it. These are fires on the streets of Hong Kong.

Anna explaining this is a global financial center, and as Anna has been describing, this is 17 weeks into these demonstrations now. You see riot

police on the streets and demonstrators in pretty much what should be described as a standoff at this point. And I think to anna's point, it is

very unclear what happens next.

Of course, it is past 10:00 in the evening. We have witnessed many a night of demonstrations and protests that have turned violent over this 17-

week period.

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We've watched demonstrations and chaos on the streets of Hong Kong today. And here you're witnessing CNN live as things begin to turn pretty nasty

again in the center of Hong Kong.

I'm going to get us into a report out of China and see if we can just re- establish with our team on the ground. So I'm going to pull us away from this just for the time being. But viewers, will try and get back to Hong

Kong. Clearly an important night there. Much more, of course, as we move through this evening. And anything more we get out of Hong Kong I will

bring to you. And we are keeping up, of course, with what is going on in the States as well.

OK, I was expecting us to -- something that says impeachment, but there you go. Right, we're going to do a lot more through the hour of Hong Kong

of course. Apologies, slightly confusing as we try and establish what's going on in Hong Kong. We've got minute blog out for you with minute by

minute news. That is CNN.com.

Let's turn to our other big story this hour, the impeachment inquiry against U.S. President Donald Trump. Charging ahead like a freight train,

closed door testimony on Capitol Hill starts as early as tomorrow. And now we know President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani is the latest to be

pulled into the inquiry. He is being subpoenaed by House Democrats for text messages and other documents related to that now infamous phone call

between Mr. Trump and the Ukrainian President.

Well CNN has also learned U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, was on the July 25th phone call when Mr. Trump pressed Mr. Zelensky to look into Joe

Biden's son.

Well, meanwhile the U.S. President is keeping up his rapid-fire defense on Twitter, but he's getting push back from an internal watchdog which says

the President's claims that the whistleblower's account was hearsay are false.

And the tentacles of the investigation are spreading beyond Washington and Kiev. A source tells CNN President Trump recently pushed Australian Prime

Minister Scott Morrison to help the U.S. Attorney General with his investigation into the start of the probe into Russian interference in the

2016 election.

Let's get you to Washington. Suzanne Malveaux is on Capitol Hill. But first to our senior justice correspondent Evan Perez. And Evan, Attorney

General Barr getting drawn into this impeachment battle. What do you we know at this point?

EVAN PEREZ, CNN SENIOR JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well that's right. You know, the Justice Department here in the United States says that William

Barr, the Attorney General has been pushing for countries to provide information for this inquiry that's ongoing. As you pointed out, this is

one backwards looking. It's looking at what happened after the 2016 election and the investigation that came to be known as the Mueller

investigation.

Bill Barr, the Attorney General has some skepticism about the legitimacy and how that investigation was done, and so that's what's ongoing. And

obviously, President Trump is very much a fan of that inquire because he believes that undermining that inquiry helps bolster his own credibility

for the 2020 elections. So that's a lot what's happening behind the scenes.

But as you pointed out, the Justice Department and White House are now confirming and the Australians by the way are confirming that there was

this conversation between President Trump and the Australian Prime Minister in which the President asked for help in getting information from the

Australian government.

Now if you remember one of the earliest parts of this Russia inquiry came from the Australians. The Australian ambassador at the time said that was

passing on information about perhaps what the Russians were up to, what they knew about Hillary Clinton's e-mails. And so, this is why the

Australians are part of this.

But it goes beyond that. It goes to the United Kingdom, to the Netherlands and other countries that provided intelligence for what became the Mueller

investigation. You can bet that a lot more will come out about those inquiries and what those countries are doing. Whether they are cooperating

with this investigation.

ANDERSON: Suzanne, what are you hearing where you are?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN U.S. CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, things are really moving lightning speed with House Democrats. They of course want to get

key witnesses before them this week and they also want to get those documents regarding the Ukraine scandal. The President and his allies

pushing very hard back.

And then what we've also seen as well, Republicans jumping in on the Senate side -- Republican-controlled Senate. Senate majority leader Mitch

McConnell conceding that yes, the Senate would have to go forward with impeachment if the House passed articles showing that the President in some

way had criminal wrongdoing.

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MALVEAUX (voice-over): House Democrats escalating their impeachment strategy as three committees issue a subpoena to Rudy Giuliani, ordering

President Trump's personal attorney to submit documents related to Ukraine.

REP. RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI (D-IL): We've asked for his documents. We'll then talk to his associates and then decide whether to bring him in at that

point.

MALVEAUX: Giuliani's stunning admission in a CNN interview that he pressed the Ukrainians to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son

fueled the Democrats decision. The three chairmen suggesting he has evidence in the form of text messages, phone records and other

communications. Indicating that you are not acting alone and that other Trump administration officials may have been involved in the scheme.

Giuliani says he's undecided on whether he will appear before Congress.

RUDY GIULIANI, DONALD TRUMP'S PERSONAL ATTORNEY: Oh, I don't know, I'm weighing the alternatives. I'll kind of like go through it. I'll get all

my evidence together. I'll get my charts.

MALVEAUX: This as a source tells CNN, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was also on the July 25th phone call with the Ukrainian President. When

questioned about it last week Pompeo deflected.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE, ABC NEWS: What do you know about those conversations?

MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: So you just gave me a report about a whistleblower complaint, none of which I've seen.

MALVEAUX: A source familiar with a recent call between the President and the Australian Prime Minister tells CNN that President Trump pressured him

to help Attorney General William Barr review the origins of the Russia investigation. The White House dismissing the report calling it part of a

previously announced investigation.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): It's OK to cooperate with Mueller to get Trump, but it's not OK to cooperate with Barr to find out if Trump was the

victim of an out of control intelligence operation? We're not going to have a country like that.

MALVEAUX: President Trump and his allies called out by the intelligence community inspector general who was a Trump appointee, forcefully pushing

back against Paul's narratives that the whistleblower lacked first-hand knowledge of the conduct outlined in the complaint. The document stating

the whistleblower possessed first-hand and other information and that the I.G. determined other information obtained during the ICIG's preliminary

review supported the complainant's allegations. Meanwhile, President Trump's focus, finding out who the whistleblower is.

TRUMP: Well we're trying to find out about a whistleblower. We have a whistleblower that reports things that were incorrect.

MALVEAUX: The whistleblower's attorney tweeting. They are entitled to anonymity and is not to be retaliated against. Doing so is a violation of

federal law.

SEN. MARK WARNER (D-VA): Any rational person would be concerned about the whistleblower's safety.

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MALVEAUX: And so, Becky, it's going to be a very full week this week. We're talking about tomorrow the former ambassador to Ukraine, what did she

actually know? She will be deposed about that phone call, the relationship with Ukraine. She was recalled abruptly in May.

On Thursday we're going to be seeing the former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine, Kurk Volker, a longtime Republican. What did he know about

Giuliani's role. And then finally on Friday -- as we had mentioned before -- the Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson who's been

before Congress members before. He is the one who said that the whistleblower's complaint was actually urgent and credible. Those are just

the beginnings of this process here, the first three in the hot seat this week -- Becky.

ANDERSON: Suzanne Malveaux there in Washington for you. Thank you, Suzanne.

Well, a new poll, opinion poll on the impeachment effort shows a shift within Donald Trump's party that could be, just could be a game changer in

next year's election. I want to get to that in the next hour of CONNECT THE WORLD so do stay with us for that.

Now you'll recall that Ukraine's President did not get his start in politics. He was an actor and a comedian. So maybe that's why he felt

comfortable with a visit from this guy. Tom Cruz stopped by to see Mr. Zelensky on Monday. They apparently discussed possible filming locations

in Ukraine and the actor got a pretty bold compliment right out of the gate.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY, IRANIAN PRESIDENT: You're good-looking.

TOM CRUZ, ACTOR: It pays the rent.

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ANDERSON: Not a bad come back, Tom Cruz. But we were hoping you'd say you had me at hello.

And just ahead, reports of injuries on both sides of the Hong Kong protest including someone shot. More on the violence that has broken out as China

celebrates National Day.

Plus, the son of Jamal Khashoggi is speaking out a year after his father's brutal murder. But the Saudi journalist's death still shrouded in mystery.

A live report on that is just ahead.

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ANDERSON: All right, welcome back. It's 21 minutes past 6:00 here in Abu Dhabi.

The brutal murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi triggered shock and outrage around the world well one year later Khashoggi's son, Salah

Khashoggi, is defending his country. Claiming enemies of Saudi Arabia are exploiting his father's death. The statement was tweeted out by Saudi

state media after it appeared on Salah's Twitter feed.

Well Khashoggi, his father, was a staunch critic of the Saudi regime and the kingdom's young Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Bin Salman says as

the leader of Saudi Arabia he takes full responsibility for Jamal Khashoggi's killing but denies ordering it.

Well, CNN's Nic Robertson has covered this story extensively for us over the past year, and he joins us now from London. And there was a question

out there that is if Saudi Arabia is trying to draw a line under this whole affair, has it worked, Nic? And I want to get your sense and your idea

about just what we've heard from Khashoggi's son today?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, well one of the thing his son said and heard his son say before, is they have a sense as

the family, though, custodians and guardians, if you will, of the memory of their father, the ones who knew him the best over many, many years, that

his death -- their father's death is sort of being exploited by the East and the West. They've said that before.

And another thing that they've said before as well, is that they trust and believe in the Saudi leadership to deliver justice, and that's what they're

saying again now. Now, I think in terms of that what we've heard from the Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman accepting responsibility. Saying that

regardless of rank, the criminals will be pursued and will be charged once the investigation is complete.

It is a step in the right direction, but it does lack, if you will, the transparency of the legal process that one would anticipate in many other

countries if such an argument was to be convincingly made. This is the story of Jamal over the past year.

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ROBERTSON (voice-over): One year since Jamal Khashoggi's brutal murder. His body is still missing. His killers yet to be convicted. Justice for

this internationally respected Saudi journalist who had become increasingly critical of his leaders yet to be delivered. Now on the eve of the

anniversary of his killing inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, October 2 last year, Saudi Arabia's ambitious Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman is

answering allegations he had a role in the killing.

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MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, SAUDI CROWN PRINCE (through translator): Absolutely not. This was a heinous crime. But I take full responsibility as a leader

in Saudi Arabia.

ROBERTSON: His interview with "60 Minutes" is the first time he has publicly accepted any responsibility. An indication he grasps the damage

the killing has done to him and the kingdom.

SALMAN (through translator): This was a mistake, and I must take all actions to avoid such a thing in the future.

ROBERTSON: Yet these actions remain shrouded in secrecy. The trial of the Saudi officials involved, many of them captured in CCTV footage in Turkey

before and after the killing, began in January and remains behind closed doors. The U.N. special rapporteur on the murder, is one of the only

international officials publicly shedding light on the case. She listened to secret Turkish recordings of Khashoggi's killings.

AGNES CALLAMARD, U.N. SPECIAL RAPPORTEUR: There's nothing in the recording that indicated an accident.

ROBERTSON: Her 98-page report was condemned by Saudi officials yet provides the most detailed insight so far of what happened. His killers

planning on cutting him up with a bone saw and putting on headphones while they did it.

CALLAMARD: The matter of fact way with which the protagonists are discussing the dismemberment of Mr. Khashoggi, in the conversation itself

they expressed concerns but not over what they are about to do but over their own fate and protection.

ROBERTSON: Turkish CCTV footage recorded outside the consulate before and after the killing shows what appears to be another part of the cover-up.

Bags believed to contain Khashoggi's body parts removed and taken to the nearby consul general's residence.

When Turkish investigators did get access to the consulate more than a week after Khashoggi's killing, they discovered chemicals had been used to clean

up the scene.

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ROBERTSON: So the bottom line, Becky, a year on is Jamal Khashoggi's murder really remains as much a mystery I think to most of us as it did

when it occurred almost a year ago today and tomorrow in fact.

ANDERSON: Yes, and Nic, it is absolutely clear that the kingdom is aware of the toxic atmosphere that this brutal killing created in capitols around

the world. Including that of Washington where a very polarized Congress working in an unusually bipartisan manner to let Riyadh know that this

killing was completely unacceptable. That their action in Yemen are completely unacceptable.

Behind the scenes, though, it has to be said and for those of us who work and live in this region, it is very clear that the Crown Prince's vision

2030 continues within the country, opening up of its tourism. You know, that there are a number of very positive moves that have been made in that

kingdom. Which as I say, you know, have been overshadowed to a certain extent by this -- by the brutal manner of this killing of Jamal Khashoggi.

ROBERTSON: Oh, no, absolutely. And the IPO of Saudi Aramco, one of the largest if not the largest company in the world, is sort of dragging if you

will. And the Crown Prince is trying to speed that up and move it along. Because the success of that IPO will be how much of and how quickly and how

efficiently he can deliver many of the reforms and changes he wants to make as part of the vision of 2030, and the killing of Jamal Khashoggi clouded

that. We saw how there was a drop off in the attendance of that business forum in the months after.

There's another sort of cloud on the horizon that's interlinked here as well and it may remain-- that cloud may remain on the horizon. But of

course, we now know that President Trump and the phone calls that he had with the Crown Prince and the King in the time shortly after Jamal

Khashoggi's kill, there were no transcript records kept, and there was a limited number of people, limited to the Secretary of State and the

national security advisor, the only other people who were aware of the contents of that call.

Should somehow those contents become public, we don't know what's contained within them. But again these of things that detract from what the Crown

Prince is trying to achieve, and it is worth underscoring here.

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Actually in Saudi Arabia on the street there is immense support particularly among the young population for what is achieved so far.

ANDERSON: Nic Robertson in the house for you. Nic, thank you for your analysis always extremely important. And we've got a lot more for you

online folks, including what Khashoggi's murder says about one of Donald Trump's closest allies. CNN's national security analyst, Peter Bergen,

takes a look at the toll on Saudi Arabia's relationship with the U.S. one year on. That is CNN.com.

Well, Khashoggi's killers called him a, quote, sacrificial animal. Well we speak to the woman who led an investigation into his death. That is coming

up.

And the protest in Hong Kong who was reportedly being shot by police, the latest escalation of violence, a new video that appears to show him moments

after he was wounded. Details on that up next.

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ANDERSON: We're following two contrasting scenes today. One of an orderly mass military parade celebrating decades of communism in China. The other

violent pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong. And we have learned from Hong Kong's police that an 18-year-old man has been shot with a live round.

They say the officer's life was in danger. It's the first-time lethal force has been used in over four months of unrest.

A video has emerged alleging to show a wounded protester on the ground asking to be taken to the hospital. Now police are also claiming

protesters used corrosive fluid and injured officers. CNN cannot independently verify that claim, though the images are those that have been

provided to us by the Hong Kong police.

Joining me now the former chairwoman of Hong Kong Democratic Party, Emily Lau, who has been nicknamed the city's iron lady. And let's just get

specifically to what many are saying will be a game changer, the shooting of an 18-year-old man by Hong Kong police with live bullets. Your

response.

EMILY LAU, FORMER CHAIRWOMAN, HONG KONG'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY: Well, of course this is terrible, and we don't want to see that. But of course all

the scenes that you've seen in Hong Kong today is exactly what the protesters want and what many Hong Kong people want. To show Xi Jinping

that although he's trying to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the founding of the PRC, there are people in Hong Kong who are bitterly unhappy, and he

and Carry Lam, the chief executive here have to find a solution.

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Otherwise I mean Hong Kong is going to be ruined and people are very, very upset -- Becky.

ANDERSON: Emily, last time we spoke it was in August. You said, there was no need for, quote, rivers of blood in Hong Kong. Are you concerned now

that that is where this is headed?

LAU: Well, I still hope that there will be no rivers of blood and certainly we do not want to see the Peoples Liberation Army, more of them

pouring into Hong Kong. Although people suspect that they are here already dressed in the police uniform. So we don't want that, Becky. And the

thing is, I guess the people are not really asking for independence. I know some journalists think that some are, but the majority are not. They

just want the government to setup an independent commission of inquiry to look into the whole saga.

ANDERSON: So President Xi touched on Hong Kong in his National Day of address. This is important. It speaks to what you've just said. He

touched on Hong Kong on his National Day of address in Beijing. Here what he had to say. Have a listen.

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XI JINPING, CHINESE PRESIDENT (through translator): Forging ahead we must remain committed to the strategy of peaceful reunification in one country,

two systems. We will maintain long-term prosperity and stability of Hong Kong and Macau. Advance the peaceful development of cross straight

relations. Unite the whole country and continue to strive for the complete unification of our country.

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ANDERSON: Let me repeat that. He says the nation will continue to, quote, strive for the complete unification of our country. What does that mean to

you?

LAU: Well, of course he's referring to Taiwan. And as you know the Taiwanese President, Tsai Ing-wen, who went to the London School of

Economics with me at the same time and she was doing quite badly last year. But then the turmoil in Hong Kong helped and now she's top of the pops and

she's going to win the presidential election next year.

So I mean, it's so stupid. If only President Xi and Carry Lam would do things to respond to the protesters demands I think the situation will come

down and will de-escalate. But if they insist on cracking down on Hong Kong and not responding then I think things will get worse. And I'm sure

Tsai Ing-wen will win with so much -- such a huge majority. I guess President Xi doesn't want to see that.

ANDERSON: Emily, what happens -- sorry, yes, Emily, what do you expect to happen next? I mean, it looked pretty chaotic on the streets tonight. One

person already being shot as the Hong Kong police have admitted to. I mean, how concerned are you that this goes horribly wrong at this point?

LAU: Well, of course it is possible, Becky. Of course it's possible. We are dealing with a communist authoritarian regime. But then yesterday

there were reports saying that the head of the Hong Kong/Macau affairs office under the state counsel in Beijing has been side lined. I hope he

will be sacked soon and I hope other officials responsible for Hong Kong would be sacked. It may be wishful thinking, but anyway, I mean, now that

I'm on CNN, I again want to appeal to the world to speak out to support Hong Kong so that we can continue to be a free and vibrant city, a city of

China. But still we can have our own human rights and freedoms and personal safety and develop democracy.

ANDERSON: Emily Lau, joining us here on CNN. Thank you very much indeed. And more of those images as we get them into CNN.

Britain's Duke and Duchess of Sussex had another busy day in Africa as their whirl wind tour nears its end. We are live in Johannesburg for you

in just a moment.

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ANDERSON: Welcome back. You're watching CONNECT THE WORLD.

And we're going to get you to Africa where Britain's Duke and Duchess of Sussex are nearing the end of their ten-day tour. The Royal couple

spending the day apart with Prince Harry wrapping up his solo tour of Malawi. Meanwhile, his wife Meghan visited the U.K. back to charity in

Johannesburg aimed at tackling sexual violence in school. Before that she spoke at the University of Johannesburg about empowering gender equality in

education.

CNN's Max Foster is following Royal tour. He joins us now from Johannesburg where Meghan is right now. And what have we found out about

Meghan during this tour -- Max?

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think what we found out is what she really cares about. You be this issue of women's empowerment

which she brings into every single event and the University event was a good example. She's patron of the Commonwealth group of universities.

It's a patronage she picked up from the Queen. And it's about supporting universities across the Commonwealth.

What she's doing is using that as a platform to try to support female students, female academics. She announced a grant today, so she brings all

of her events around to the issue that she cares about. That allows her to engage into these events, and people are always struck by how genuine she

is. Which is important because she's had months of bad press, Becky. And she's been accused of being a hypocrite because of her lifestyle up until

this point, but actually I think during this tour she does have genuine interests and she is coming across as a genuine person. That's been very

powerful for her.

ANDERSON: Thank you, Max. Max is in Johannesburg.

Right after reaching the dizzying heights of our first ever Champions League final last year, Spurs -- that's my team for those of you who don't

regularly watch -- are back in action in Europe's elite club competition later today. Taking on German giants and five-time European cup winners

Bayern Munich at our glorious new stadium in North London. Ahead of the clash, Bayern Munich's coach has been talking up the talents of the front

men. Have a listen.

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NIKO KOVAC, BAYERN MUNICH MANAGER (through translator): I claim that Harry Kane and Robert Lewandowski are the top two or three or four in the world.

Both of them are very successful and I'm eager to see how it goes tomorrow.

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ANDERSON: Kane, clearly one of the best strikers in the world, but then I would say, why wouldn't I. Are you a fan, Rhiannon?

RHIANNON JONES, WORLD SPORT: Of Spurs or Cane?

ANDERSON: Cane, Spurs, doesn't matter which.

JONES: Of both, yes, Becky, I've got to say, I'm impressed by both. How are the nerves, by the way? Despite the speculation of unrest in the Spurs

dressing room, Becky, you'll be pleased to hear the views of one award winning journalist. He says Pochettino's side are ready to fight for their

shirt. More from where that positivity came from coming up shortly.

ANDERSON: Fantastic, looking forward to it. Taking a short break, folks. Back after this.

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