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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world, it's 6:00 am in London and 11:00 pm in Los Angeles. From CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Rosemary Church which are next 90 minutes of CNN NEWSROOM, let's get started.

The Pentagon reveals new details about the raid that took out the leader of ISIS.

More Brexit turmoil. The British Parliament rejects the call for a snap election and Boris Johnson will now try plan B.

Intense winds fuel the fires in California. Threatening hundreds of homes and forcing mandatory evacuations.

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CHURCH: Good to have you with us.

We begin with details on the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al- Baghdadi. A top U.S. general says the Pentagon will release videos and photos of the raid in Syria in the upcoming days. Right now, we know the operation started after 11:00 pm local time on Saturday and was completed a little over two hours later.

U.S. Defense officials have confirmed al-Baghdadi's remains are now buried at sea and General Mark Milley says two ISIS members were captured, take a listen.

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GENERAL MARK MILLEY, U.S. JOINT CHIEF CHAIRMAN: There was material taken away. I don't want to characterize exactly what or how much yet until it gets exploited properly but, as a matter of course, we always do sensitive site exploitation on any objective anywhere to do that.

QUESTION: And what about prisoners?

You took some. How many?

In whose custody are they in now?

MILLEY: They're in our custody and they're at a secure facility.

QUESTION: Can you tell us how many?

There were two adult males taken off the objective alive. They're in our custody.

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CHURCH: U.S. president Donald Trump says U.S. forces obtained highly sensitive material on ISIS and CNN's Nick Paton Walsh has more on what we're learning about the operation.

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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A press conference from the Secretary of Defense and U.S. chief of staff did not really give much more information about the, raid other than the quite vivid details provided by president Donald Trump.

They did say that two men were detained and there may be a release of video later. We are learning from some allies, remember, there is something of a push by allies of the U.S. in the region to show how helpful they were in tracking down al-Baghdadi.

We're hearing from allies, different versions of how they assisted in the hunt. Foremost, the Syrian Kurds, the main U.S. ally on the ground in the fight against ISIS, have come forward and said, in, fact they had an informant inside Baghdadi's inner circle, perhaps even in the compound itself, that was able to lead them there, provide plans of the compound and even take from that compound, dirty underwear and a blood sample from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi so they could use that to match it with DNA samples the Americans had to totally prove it was Baghdadi in hiding.

Baghdadi was briefly a prisoner of the United States while he was in Iraq. We are also hearing from Iraqi officials and Iraqi senior intelligence officials that another aide to Baghdadi may have been useful in terms of tracking him down as well.

This man was called Mohammed Alid Sajit (ph) and he was apparently detained on the outskirts of Baghdad about two months ago. He then in turn led the Iraqi forces to a courier; in the raid the courier was killed but the courier's wife had documents that led them to the whereabouts of Baghdadi.

The U.S. has not commented on any of these versions directly but it does appear that they are continuing to hunt against some of Baghdadi's key assistants. A man called Abu Hassan al-Muhajir (ph) is likely thought Dead, according to one U.S. official.

Syrian Kurdish officials saying he was hunted down outside of a town called Jerablus, again like where Baghdadi was found, an area where Turkish backed militia exercise a lot of influence.

There are some gruesome pictures emerging of Muhajir's death and it does appear that he was a spokesperson and possibly part of the chain of succession after Baghdadi's death.

But U.S. officials say they are increasingly limited in their exposure territory inside of Syria. That's one of the main orders Donald Trump gave when the Turkish incursion began, giving the Turkish the ability to move in and that's limiting their visibility. So perhaps they're moving fast to take out as many ISIS leaders that they are aware of, particularly given there's no point giving them their freedom to leave with Baghdadi. They've already achieved that goal -- Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Irbil, northern Iraq.

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CHURCH: Meanwhile President Trump is touting the killing of the ISIS leader, take a listen.

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TRUMP: He was a sick and depraved man and now he's dead. He is dead. He is as dead as a doornail.

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CHURCH: Mr. Trump also tweeted a picture of the hero dog who chased Baghdadi into the dead-end tunnel where he blew himself up. The dog was injured but officials say he is recovering and also back at work.

The White House seems to be doing everything it can to block testimony in the impeachment inquiry. But at least one more witness is looking to talk. CNN has obtained the opening statement from Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, a Ukraine expert at the National Security Council who was listening to President Trump's call with the Ukrainian president and here's some of what he is set to tell lawmakers in the upcoming hours.

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"I was concerned by the call. I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government's support of Ukraine.

I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security."

The testimony will come out as House Democrats are ready to formalize the impeachment inquiry and CNN's Manu Raju has more now from Washington.

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MANU RAJU, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: House Democrats taking a significant step making it very clear that they're prepared to move in a more public posture in this impeachment inquiry, setting a vote for later this week that would set the ground rules for what that next phase of this inquiry would look like -- public hearings, the release of transcripts, the release of a report and also how evidence will be shared with the House Judiciary Committee.

And that is significant because the House Judiciary Committee is the panel that will first take a crack at voting on articles of impeachment against the president of the United States. And that is expected to happen potentially in a matter of weeks as the Democrats press forward on this investigation and plan to move forward on public hearings.

Now Republicans have been demanding for some time a vote to formally authorize an impeachment inquiry. Now they say that this resolution simply falls short of what they have been demanding. but Democrats say that it is not actually authorizing any impeachment inquiry. They say they don't even need to do that.

But nevertheless, they are in some ways calling the president's bluff in his refusal -- the White House's refusal to provide information, turn over documents and try to prevent witnesses from coming forward.

Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told me they still plan to conduct more closed-door depositions -- several more scheduled for this week -- some have been subpoenaed for next week -- and then we can see that more public phase before Democrats push to potentially impeach this president this fall or even this winter.

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CHURCH: Manu Raju with that report.

And the White House is reacting to this week's vote to confirm this inquiry, saying this, "We won't be able to comment fully until we see the actual text.

"But Speaker Pelosi is finally admitting what the rest of America already knew, that Democrats were conducting an unauthorized impeachment proceeding refusing to give the president due process and their secret shady closed-door depositions are completely and irreversibly illegitimate."

We turn to London now and Boris Johnson isn't giving up despite a defeat in Parliament. The prime minister says that he will try for a December 12th election this time with a different kind of bill to get lawmakers' approval.

It would only need a simple majority rather than a two thirds majority he needed in the motion that failed on Monday. Nic Robertson has now more from London.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Well, it was really no surprise that the Prime Minister didn't get the two-thirds majority to have the election on December the 12th.

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ROBERTSON (voice-over): It was very clear in the debate leading up to that vote that the prime minister was calling the leader of the opposition essentially scared of the electorate, saying he didn't trust the electorate to go to the polls.

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BORIS JOHNSON, PRIME MINISTER OF BRITAIN: There is one party tonight. One party tonight that is actually against a general election. There is one party, there is one party that does not trust the people of this country. This is being done. And that is the principal party of opposition.

Mr. Speaker, I hope -- I hope he accepts tonight that he is no good and that this charade has gone on for long enough.

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ROBERTSON: And the leader of the opposition responding that he doesn't trust the prime minister, that the prime minister must remove very clearly and very completely the possibility of a no deal Brexit. He said that the prime minister had promised that the country would be leaving deal or no deal on the 31st of October. That was a broken promise, he said, by the prime minister.

Indeed, he said the prime minister had spent 100 million pounds in an advertising campaign to let people know and educate people about the possibility of a no deal Brexit later this week.

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JEREMY CORBYN, LEADER, BRITISH LABOUR PARTY: He spent 100 million pounds, Mr. Speaker. 100 million pounds on an advertising campaign to leave on the 31st of October but failed to deliver. And this is serious, Mr. Speaker.

The National Audit Office says it failed to resonate. I asked the Prime Minister, I asked his house with that 100 million pounds, how many nurses could have been hired? How many parcels could have been funded it food banks? How many social care packages could have been funded for our elderly? He has failed because he has chosen to fail.

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ROBERTSON: And after the vote, the prime minister indicating that he will try again to get a December the election, this time using a method that will allow him to only require a simple majority 50 percent support in the Houses of Parliament, one of the senior members in Parliament saying that he could very clearly see another day coming just like Monday with no progress and a lot of arguments -- Nic Robertson, CNN, London.

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CHURCH: All of this unfolding as the European Union agreed to a new Brexit extension, which they're calling a flextension.

What exactly is the flextension being offered?

That means Britain now has until January 31st to exit the E.U. but the flex part means that if a withdrawal deal is agreed upon before that date, Brexit could happen before that deadline expires.

It all started with the Benn Act passed by Parliament, requiring the prime minister to request a Brexit extension if no withdrawal deal was in place by the October 31st.

So Thom Brooks is the dean of Durham Law School and a professor or law and government at Durham University in England and joins us live via Skype.

Good to see you as always, trying to work through all of this and see if any progress has been made.

Another big defeat for Britain's prime minister Monday, with lawmakers voting down his proposal for an early general election on December the 12th. Now he is going to try to get this simple majority to approve the early election proposal. Can he do it?

What are the risks?

THOM BROOKS, DURHAM LAW SCHOOL: Great to see you again, Rosemary. I suspect it might be unlikely to get this new bill passed. He wants to have a majority for a general election that enables to not be able to win and he has a minority in Parliament.

He thinks he is going to have a good chance at the polls, going to get public support behind him, in this people versus the Parliament type of battle. However, his problems are centrally that, if you trust him in Parliament to keep him to his word and to not be up to any dirty tricks. I think this is his problem. Until it's the 1st of November, I think you will have a difficult time getting the majority he wants and see if he can win the majority of the public.

I think for the 1st of November, he will get that general election. I think the no deal Brexit will have been avoided and then other parties will agree to hold that election.

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BROOKS: Until then, I think they'll do everything they can to stop him because they simply don't trust him and if Parliament were dissolved and the election called, what he would do in the next day or two.

CHURCH: He's got to get approval for that election and you feel he's not going to get a simple majority? So what's going to happen if that fails between that and the next step

on this incredible journey that were taking?

BROOKS: It's only the current rules on the legislation that he would need a two thirds majority and he failed to do that yesterday so he would basically pass a new law, saying at 50 percent majority, which would be enough to secure a date for the next general election.

This new bill that would be presented to Parliament would mean the other parties could try to change it and revise it. We've already seen several attempts of what other parties will do to amend it. Maybe lowering the voting age; the Liberal Democrats, the SNP have been supportive of votes at 16 years old; ensuring that the bill wouldn't be able to come into force until November.

It's a thorny issue right now on the House of Commons, it would require the House of Lords to approve and they wouldn't have to approve it. And it looks like they're giving the prime minister a difficult time.

They've been particularly strong in trying to stop a new deal exit. He may get this majority vote passed and there will be support for it but I don't think you will see it before it happens, on the 31st of October, Brexit will have truly failed.

CHURCH: They now have until the end of January to get this right and presumably they can do something. We will watch. Thom Brooks, thank you so much for taking us through all of this, appreciate it.

BROOKS: Pleasure.

CHURCH: We'll take a short break and still to come. Wildfires fueled by intense winds are raging in California, threatening homes and causing mass evacuations. Is there an end in sight?

We'll take a look. No matter what the government promises, protesters in Chile say it is not enough. What they're demanding. That's ahead.

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GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM (D-CA): There's a mandatory evacuation and listen to the experts and save not only your own life but don't put our first responders in harm's way.

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CHURCH: That is a warning from California's governor as dangerous wildfires continue to flare up across the state. Right now, firefighters are getting a small break from the powerful winds fueling those flames but those winds are expected to pick up again in the coming hours. Paul Vercammen has more from Sonoma County.

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PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Here in Wine Country, Alexander Valley to be specific, they lost 100 structures, including this historic Soda Rock Winery and now the focus is on the winds in the days ahead.

This has been one devastating fire.

VERCAMMEN (voice-over): Flames, thick smoke and almost pitch black, that's what thousands in Californian faced as they scrambled to leave their homes. Two major wildfires fed by hurricane-force winds are burning at opposite ends of the state.

PAUL KORETZ, LOS ANGELES CITY COUNCIL: If you're in the mandatory evacuation zone and you are still there watching this, you're an idiot.

VERCAMMEN (voice-over): In the south, new evacuation orders have been issued in Los Angeles as the Getty fire sparked early Monday morning, scorching hundreds of acres. People forced from their homes on the west side of the 405 freeway near the Getty Center Museum.

ERIC GARCETTI, LOS ANGELES MAYOR: There are 500 firefighters there on the line right now and in some of the most topography of Los Angeles.

VERCAMMEN (voice-over): Up north in California wine country, the Kincade fire is raging ,driven nearly 2,000 people from their homes. Wind gusts reached 93 miles an hour and PG&E says that those winds forced to cut power out of an abundance of caution.

MARK QUINLAN, PG&E: About 965,000 customers have been impacted at one time or another during this event.

VERCAMMEN (voice-over): The company says forecast for high winds Tuesday could force them to shut off power to more customers.

VERCAMMEN: For right now, the winds are calm and they're working diligently on containing these fires, 5 percent contained and more than 66,000 acres burned -- reporting from Sonoma County, I'm Paul Vercammen.

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CHURCH: Chile is bracing for another day of protests despite the president's cabinet reshuffle and the promises for reforms. Matt Rivers reports the anger at the government of economic inequality is undiminished.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, after yet another day here in Santiago, Chile, with the Pinera administration trying desperately to do anything to quell the frustration and the violence and just the anger at the government. The only thing that remains clear is that they have not found the solution to all of that yet.

And the way I know that? Take a look for yourselves. There are still people out in the streets. This protest have been going on for more than a week now and you can see people absolutely packing the streets. Some peaceful, some not. I mean, look all the way down there. These people generally are heading towards the main presidential palace, kind of right in the center of Santiago.

And there are thousands, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands in the streets yet again. We have seen quite a bit of violence just a few minutes ago, we saw a pharmacy being looted. Looting has taken place quite regularly during this protest. We've seen tear gas deployed and we have seen water cannons deployed and that has become a regular occurrence.

What the government tried to do today was take yet another step to appease these protesters. So, we saw eight cabinet ministers in President Pinera's administration being replaced. That's just the latest move after a series of promised economic reforms after the curfew that had been in place for a long time was lifted by the government.

The state of emergency as of today was lifted by the government. They have promised to increase pensions benefits and yet still, the people are out on the streets, they would call then not real solutions, just fake promises is what we've heard from people.

And their protests issues remain the same. It all starts and stops with economic inequality, they want tension reform, they want more funding for public (Ph) education, they want wage growth. They think that the policies of this government for 30 years now have benefited the rich at the expense of the middle-classes and the poor classes.

How this ends, how this all stops, when people stop coming into the streets? That's the open question at this point -- I'm Matt Rivers, CNN, in Santiago, Chile.

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CHURCH: We'll take a short break. Still to come, the ISIS leader is dead.

But his legacy may continue to inspire others?

Plus young lives literally on the line in the wake of the truck deaths tragedy and we will take a closer look at the heartache a shadowy trafficking network is inflicting on families in Vietnam. Back in just a moment.

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. I'm Rosemary Church. I want to update you now on the main stories we've been following this hour. A key witness in the U.S. impeachment inquiry says he reported concerns about President Trump's Ukraine call. CNN has obtained the opening statement from Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Veneman who is there to testify in the coming hours.

He was listening in on that call and says he felt the White House pressure on Ukraine would hurt national security. Boris Johnson will try again in the coming hours to secure a December election. The British Prime Minister failed Monday night when M.P.s rejected his plan. Now he says he'll offer up a new motion that only needs a simple majority to succeed. Mr. Johnson hopes the new parliament will approve his Brexit plan which would break the long deadlock over the U.K. leaving the European Union.

The race that led to the death of ISIS lead Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi began just after 11:00 p.m. local time on Saturday in Syria. And a little more than two hours later Baghdadi detonated himself and was declared dead by U.S. Special Forces. U.S defense officials confirmed on Monday that Baghdadi's remains have been buried at sea. Well, the ISIS leader is gone but his horrific legacy lives on. Baghdadi went from an unassuming ordinary man to become the head of a vicious terror group. CNN's Brian Todd takes a look at the reign of terror Baghdadi unleashed.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As a young man he was shy, withdrawn, said to mumble as he spoke. When he was captured by U.S. forces during the early years of the Iraq war, he was thought of as little more than a local thug. But now in the wake of his violent death at the hands of U.S. Special Forces, experts say there's never been another terrorist leader quite like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

PETER BERGEN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: He created a functioning state in part - in the part of the world where most states don't function very well. I mean, they collected taxes. They had a DMV, they, you know, acted like a state. He also created a terrorist army, and he also created sort of a death cult.

TODD: Under Baghdadi's leadership, ISIS burned a captured Jordanian pilot alive and videotaped it. The terror group crucified some prisoners, displayed the heads of others on spikes in busy public areas of their former Capitol Raqqa, Syria.

PAUL CRUICKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: He was looking to shake people in the West but he's also looking to energize his supporters for the most extreme of ISIS supporters. These videos energize them.

TODD: Possibly the most enduring and horrifying of Baghdadi's legacies, the holding of at least four American hostages, exhibiting them and other westerners in orange jumpsuits and beheading them on camera. In one of those videos, a tall mask Stone Cold killer known as Jihadi John trash talk to his enemies by name as he presided over the beheading of American journalist James Foley.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An attempt by you, Obama, to deny the Muslims their rights of living in safety under the Islamic caliphate result in the bloodshed of your people.

AKI PERITZ, FORMER CIA ANALYST: This was really the video that launched 1000 warships. This -- when he murdered Jim Foley on online, he suddenly became this -- the boogeyman that scared the west.

TODD: Baghdadi was said to run ISIS almost like a corporation with spreadsheets on assassinations and operatives missions. And there were some terrifying missions. November 2015, a coordinated assault in Paris killed at least 130 people, including about 90 inside the Bataclan theater. 2016 bombings at the Brussels and Istanbul airports killed more than 70. Other mass killings were ISIS inspired, like the truck attack in Nice, France which killed 84 people.

And two mass shootings on American soil, killing 14 in San Bernardino, California and 49 at the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. What does it say about the man who presided over all this destruction, that at the very end, he chose to take the lives of three children with him by detonating a suicide vest right next to them.

CRUICKSHANK: It tells you that the only thing that counted in the final moments of his life was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, that these children, these innocents that were with him did not matter a jolt to him.

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TODD: Will another Jihadist leader ever emerge to be able to lead ISIS or another terror group who could the same level of fear into the West that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi did?

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TODD: Analysts say other jihadists leaders have learned from Baghdadi's examples of how to use the media. So that is possible. What's likely not possible they say is for another militant leader to govern an area the size of Portugal with a population the size of Bulgaria's. Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

CHURCH: CNN Intelligence and Security Analyst Bob Baer joins me now. Always good to have you with us.

BOB BAER, CNN INTELLIGENCE AND SECURITY ANALYST: Thank you.

CHURCH: So from local thug to most-wanted terrorist Abu Bakr al- Baghdadi's reign of terror has come to an end. But what happens next to ISIS? How will they feel the leadership vacuum left behind by the death of Baghdadi? And what can we expect in terms of retaliation from this terror group?

BAER: Well, for a start, the Shura Council will pick a new leader, on somebody with religious qualifications that is charismatic in some ways or another. And they vote on him. But I think right now the Islamic State in order to put themselves back on the map, they're going to have to launch some sort of an attack, whether it's in Baghdad or London or Paris, it doesn't really matter but that's going to be their main goal is to claim, listen, we are still alive and we can hit anywhere in the world. I think that's a fair certainty.

CHURCH: Yes. That is - that is a worry but as you say, expected in the aftermath of this. So President Trump said Baghdadi was crying and whimpering at the very end and died like a dog and a coward. He also said Baghdadi's death was bigger than the killing of Osama bin Laden. What's your reaction to the President's characterization of Baghdadi's death and what impact might that have on ISIS followers?

BAER: Well, Rosemary, first of all, we have to remember the Islamic State grew out of a humiliation and that was the invasion of Iraq in 2003, when we destroyed the Sunni leadership in that country and what happened after that is (INAUDIBLE) members and religious types all joined the Islamic State or first al-Qaeda. And, you know, what the last thing you want to do now is humiliate somebody who's just been defeated because that will just draw more followers and more incentive for a lone wolf to make attacks.

CHURCH: So why do you think he was talking like that?

BAER: Oh, I don't think he's advised to, I just think he's a Trump as usual. He was, you know, comparing himself to Obama. He was appealing to the base. He was appealing this whole sense of revenge. We got you, you know, you killed some Americans. Now we got you now, in a draw support. I just can't imagine anybody in the chain of command in the military recommended that he go on like that.

He first refer to a Muslim as a dog is unnecessarily insulting. I mean, look at, Rosemary, at a time like this you just have to sit down and say, look, we have to get over this, the violence has got to stop. We have to find a solution the Middle Eastern, it's -- there's a political speech that goes with this, but she failed to give.

CHURCH: Right. And the informant to smuggle down Baghdadi's underwear and a blood sample to confirm his identity took incredible risks, of course to make this raid possible. Do you think too much was revealed about how he did this and talk to us about the process of how he would have laid the groundwork for this.

BAER: Well, it was somebody, Rosemary, who was clearly already close to Baghdadi. Somebody Baghdadi trusted, clearly in a movement like this. You've got people that are disaffected for whatever reason because of the violence, and they decided to take revenge. And then they approached the CIA, usually. And then the CIA asked, well prove that you're close to him.

And he goes into the compound, gets a sample of his blood, his DNA, in this case, his underwear, it's brought out. And once that process gets underway, in they go to stage two, which is making sure that Baghdadi is where the asset says he is. You -- last thing you want to do if you're Delta Force or any American forces fly into an area like that and arrive at an empty house. CHURCH: But indeed, and of course, what happens now to that informant and his family, we do understand he left with the U.S. forces after this operation took place.

BAER: He'll probably get what's called Appeal 110. He's resettled by the CIA in the United States under an assumed name and given a pension isn't the word for it but given enough money to live on the rest of his life.

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BAER: Somebody like this as well rewarded clusters of price on Baghdadi's head, you know, he will probably get that money. He'd be well taken care of. The whole idea is to send the message out to the rest of the members of the Islamic State as you defect us and we'll take care of you.

CHURCH: Bob Baer, thank you so much. We always like to get to your analysis, and of course, your perspective on these matters. Thank you so much.

BAER: Thank you.

CHURCH: To another story we've been following very closely. The driver charged in the deaths of 39 migrants found in a sealed truck container in South Eastern England has appeared in court. 25 year old Maurice Robinson is facing charges including manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people. He remains in custody. Prosecutors claim he's part of a global trafficking ring. Three other people have been arrested and released on bail.

Investigators say they still don't know who the victims are or where they came from. But some families in Vietnam including this one who spoke with CNN, say their loved ones may have been in that truck. And CNN travel to a village in Central Vietnam with three families have told local authorities their missing loved ones could be among the 39 victims. Ivan Watson met them and asked why so many young Vietnamese are willing to risk their lives with a smuggling network.

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IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A family in mourning, this grieving mother clings to her boys. All she has left she says from her husband who she believes is dead.

TRAN THI HA, WIFE OF LE VAN HA (through translator): On October 20 seconds, he calls and said he would go from France to the U.K. and he would not have any phone signal. Since then I had no connection with him.

WATSON: Photos of the couple in much happier times. 30-year-old Le Van Ha left Vietnam to go to Europe three months ago. His father says, Le's second son was born after that departure. Grandfather Le Minh Tuan believes his son suffocated to death in a shipping container in Britain last Tuesday, along with 38 other migrants. My son is dead. We have a huge debt, and two grandchildren. One of them has never even met his father he tells me.

At least two other families in this farming community in central Vietnam also fear they lost loved ones in that shipping container in England. The question, why are Vietnamese risking their lives and enormous debt to smuggle themselves to Europe? Rice paddies like this have been left abandoned, uncultivated because residents say they just can't earn enough money growing rice anymore.

Instead, locals have been sending loved ones overseas, sometimes illegally. And they add that many of these new homes have been paid for with foreign remittances. I sent my three sons to Europe, this man tells me, after years abroad, two of them were deported from Britain sent home in handcuffs. But he says their earnings paid to build this three-story house. Everyone here seems to know someone who smuggled themselves to Europe.

And they call the shadowy network of smugglers who move people across borders the line as in assembly line. This family tells me they're angry at a so-called high quality line that promised 100 percent success at smuggling 29-year-old Vo Nuoc Nam (ph) across the English Channel to Britain. His mother praise, he's not one of the migrants who died in the container. Back at the Le household, there's already a shrine built to their missing son.

Le's father says he mortgaged his house and farmland to pay the line $33,000 to smuggle his son to Britain. He said, I will go to Britain to earn money for the family, to build a new house Le's father says. Now this grieving family is begging the British and Vietnamese government to send their son's body back so they can hold a proper funeral. Ivan Watson, CNN, Do Thanh, Vietnam.

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CHURCH: And coming up after a short break. The sport of football is searching for a solution to an old to common problem. The racist abuse one footballer experienced and what it's doing to the sport.

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CHURCH: For about a week now many in the Bolivian capital have been protesting last week's elections, which gave President Evo Morales a fourth term in office.

Opposition candidate, Carlos Mesa and his supporters believe the election was rigged. And are demanding a recount at a second round of voting.

President Morales, says he's open to a runoff if there's proof of fraud. CNN's Gustavo Valdes has more now from La Paz.

GUSTAVO VALDES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This was the largest gathering of Bolivia has taken to the streets. It's outside of La Paz and the reason they had to move it to this place is because earlier today a large number of miners came to this city using heavy explosives, almost like dynamite, to close off the area in which the civic organizations had initially organized this meeting to express their disapprovement with the political process.

What happened? President Evo Morales over the weekend asks his supporters to create blockades to counter the blockades that for seven days the civic groups have established all over the country in most cities that have paralyzed Bolivia as a way of pressuring Evo Morales into recognizing that a second round, it's necessary. He still believes that he got enough vote that he got the threshold necessary for a fourth consecutive term.

This afternoon I talked to the minister of health who was one of those heading the support on the streets, saying that Evo Morales play a fair game, that the result should be -- should be respected, and are these people the once who are breaking the law by demanding a second round.

These people simply said they cannot believe the way the votes were counted, they want a second round. It's been seven days of protests, and the country, it is already having an economic impact and it's become a battle of wills. Can they stay protesting, blocking the cities enough that people won't feel it on the pocket? Or does the president has the patient to let this go by and continue with his fourth term that would start in January?

Gustavo Valdes, CNN, La Paz.

CHURCH: Well, bloody clashes between anti-government protesters and police in Iraq have now claimed the lives of at least 82 people. A human rights group says more than 3,700 have been injured since Friday.

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CHURCH: Authorities have imposed a nightly curfew in Baghdad. Many students have now joined the protest defying a warning from the prime minister who has promised reforms but done little to quell the unrest.

Protesters are angry over high unemployment, alleged government corruption, and a lack of basic services.

Well, football is struggling to stop the racist incidents that have plagued the sport for years. One footballer who has experienced abuse on the pitch is Linford Harris. A disciplinary panel acknowledged he had been abused earlier this year. But it also found him guilty of misconduct and banned him from six games.

CNN "WORLD SPORT" contributor Darren Lewis spoke with Harris about the state of the game.

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DARREN LEWIS, CNN WORLD SPORT CONTRIBUTOR: Can you describe how you felt when you heard the abuse in the first place?

LINFORD HARRIS, FORMER STRIKER, WYMESWOLD: At first, I didn't -- I didn't know what doom hadn't spinning because I've got a penalty here. And so good way to get back in the game, but also it was -- but it's just sad, it's sad. That's all I can say, it's sad and I just want a bit sport, direct us so you can look to, on the pitch.

And after it carried on, it's like -- if I'll be into, I don't know, it's hard to explain. It just lost and done. Don't feel like football when I was on the pitch then that time. So, yes, just disappointed inside.

LEWIS: It was right about the 78th minute of the game. Can you talk us through what happened?

HARRIS: Yes, it was around the 78th minute, and like I said, and we got awarded a penalty. And that was it that's when it all got heated and shouts, you black, be wise (INAUDIBLE). But, yes, it was disgusting. So, we hear all these chants, and then, as I've lots run to ref, it's waiting for me to take it.

And as everyone out and saying, you black, and singing slur. And then, after I've got it for a challenge, this one had typical black man ruining it for everybody. So, it's coming from two angles now. So, if it needs to be done.

LEWIS: You left F.C. Wymeswold after that.

HARRIS: Yes, yes, I left F.C. Wymeswold and I quit football because I just don't want to go for it again basically. It's not more the football (INAUDIBLE). If I go through that again, it just ruined me.

LEWIS: So, did you not feel protected at that level?

HARRIS: Not, not at all, not one bit. It took about 20 minutes for the game to actually get abandon. Like we agreed, we finish still chasing my former members around the premises. So, it's about five minutes of being around this person.

He's making these noises and finds women animals, it's just racism. It's hard to us because it's half an hour, a lot of nothing a half- hour. Well, if he got violent and things like that to my family members. And they got told to remove themselves on the ground.

And to me, that's racism because that belongs many people have heard it witnesses and stunts saying, that he's being racist. That's when my former members (INAUDIBLE). To me that's racism and it's clearly happening.

LEWIS: Is this kind of thing quite common at non-league level?

HARRIS: Yes, yes, because these racial abuses, the thing is that professionally, you've got big crowd, you've got support, (INAUDIBLE). You can -- you can be racists. And he could find out the next game while you playing. He can just walk for a gate and stand right on the side and give it you again.

LEWIS: You're aware of the Haringey Borough situation?

HARRIS: Yes.

LEWIS: What did you make of that?

HARRIS: Personally, I wasn't surprised at all because it's everywhere. But same emotions, you just want it to stop but it's not going to stop. But the first thing you think of is the person alone that went for it. I'm sorry that I went for it. There's going to be more people go through it. I just hope you get to support that deserves --

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Well, baseball is America's national pastime. But heckling politicians is another near and dear tradition as President Trump found out at the World Series. Jeanne Moos has our report.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: When President Trump looked at the first lady and smiled, and smiled, and smiled, was he hearing what we were hearing?

Lots of booing, plus an impeach Trump banner and veterans for impeachment peeping out behind home plate. Not to mention.

AMERICAN CROWD: Lock him up!

MOOS: Hey, but at least, nobody threw any shoes at him like we did at President George W. Bush in Baghdad. It's not a ball or a strike.

Practically, all politicians get booed. For instance, Mike Pence.

AMERICAN CROWD: Boo!

MOOS: Arriving at the Broadway musical Hamilton.

MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I nudged my kids and reminded them that's what freedom sounds like.

MOOS: Freedom sounded like this when Hillary Clinton said Bernie Sanders wasn't a Democrat until he ran for president.

HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I'm -- you know, I'm -- and well, it's true -- it's true. You know it's true.

AMERICAN CROWD: Boo!

MOOS: It's bad enough getting booed. But imagine getting booed on your birthday. That's what happened to Rudy Giuliani on his 74th birthday at his beloved Yankee Stadium. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The New York Yankees wish a very Happy Birthday to Mayor Giuliani.

AMERICAN CROWD: Boo!

MOOS: "Crappy birthday, Rudy," said the New York Post.

President Obama even got booed by the Boy Scouts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boo!

MOOS: After he sent a video message rather than appearing in person at the scout jamboree.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boo!

MOOS: But Obama turned boos to cheers at the Democratic convention.

BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's Donald Trump.

AMERICAN CROWD: Boo!

OBAMA: Don't boo, vote.

MOOS: Candidate Trump got booed for trying to silence Jeb Bush.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Let me talk, quiet. A lot of time -- a lot of time.

AMERICAN CROWD: Boo!

MOOS: Don't bother trying to shush an entire stadium. You're destined to strike out big league. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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