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House Set For Historic Floor Vote On Impeachment Next Week; North Korea Claims It Conducted Another "Crucial Test" At Missile Site; Family Says Hacker Accessed Camera, Harassed Eight-Year-Old Daughter; Mayor Declares State Of Emergency In Wake Of Cyber Attack; Officials: Kosher Market Attack An Act Of Terrorism With "A Hate-Crime Bias Slant"; Man Accused Of Slapping Reporter On Backside Arrested, Charged; Firefighters Rescue Duck Stuck On Frozen Lake. Aired 7-8a ET

Aired December 14, 2019 - 07:00   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: North Korean state media are announcing what it calls another successful quite crucial test.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He promised a Christmas gift. He promised a year of end deadline for the U.S. to change its attitude. So we really feel like we are going back to familiar territory here.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY WEEKEND with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: Top of the hour now. Good morning to you. President Trump now a step closer to impeachment. The full House is expected to vote on two articles of impeachment. That's Wednesday, and if passed, that will make President Trump just the third president in the U.S. history to be impeached.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: The president isn't shying away from the political fight here. We've learned he would prefer a long Senate trial with witnesses.

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TRUMP: I'll do whatever they want to do. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't mind a long process because I'd like to see the whistle- blower who's a fraud. The whistle-blower wrote a false report, and I really blew it up when I released the transcript of the call.

And then Schiff gets up and he -- and I blew him up, too, because he went up in front of Congress, and he made a statement about what I said that was totally false.

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BLACKWELL: CNN's Kristen Holmes is at the White House. President Trump seems like he's going to be fully involved in this Senate fight after abstaining from the House portion of this.

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT : Good morning, Victor. Well, that's absolutely right. And that's of course something he wants to do it. It's not really a surprise there. President Trump at his heart is a showman, a T.V. producer and this is arguably the biggest show of his presidency.

So he has offered his views to Senate Republicans saying as you heard there that he'd like the whistleblower to testify. That he'd like Adam Schiff to testify, making it a splashy trial.

But Senate Republicans, many of them are little bit concerned about that. They don't want to open the door to more witnesses brought forward by Republicans because that means more witnesses potentially brought forward by Democrats. So they're kind of working through that right now.

And of course, you remember Senate Republicans are the ones who will finally ultimately decide what this trial looks like. Now we do know that the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has been working with White House Counsel. They met on Thursday and essentially they agreed to work together. They said did not come up with a final impeachment strategy but they said they'd be working in close coordination.

Now, just this conversation between the two of them enraged House Democrats who said it was completely unfair. Take a listen.

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REP. PRAMILA JAYAPAL (D-WA): The foreman of the jury, Mitch McConnell, the guy that decides all the rules is actually going to coordinate with the defendant. That makes no sense whatsoever. It is an outrage.

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HOLMES: Well, and of course, we do know. We've tried to reach out to a lot of these Senate Republicans who have said we are jurors, we cannot comment on this.

However, Mitch McConnell defended his interaction with White House Counsel saying this.

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SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): It was done during the Clinton impeachment as well. Not surprisingly President Clinton and the Democrats and the Senate were coordinating their strategy. We're on the same side.

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HOLMES: And our Dana Bash talked to Tom Daschle who was the Senate majority leader, a Democrat, during Clinton's impeachment. Who said that while he did not talk to President Clinton at the time, his staff was working very closely with the White House staff. They were trying to get all the logistics, the moving parts in place. He said that that was a necessity. PAUL: Kristen, when you talk about witnesses and that the president

wants to call some. That would make many of the people in his camp vulnerable obviously. One of them could be Rudy Giuliani. We understand that his personal lawyer Giuliani was spotted at the White House yesterday. What do we know about that visit?

HOLMES: Well, Christi, this is very interesting. I think we need to make a couple of things very clear. This is an act of defiance by President Trump. This is the day that these articles are being voted in in the House Judiciary Committee. And the man who is at the center of all of this impeachment is here showing up at the White House. That is President Trump essentially saying I don't care what happens. Like this is what I am doing right now. This is my strategy. That is all part of the not retreating strategy.

Because keep this in mind, the entire impeachment is centered around this idea that President Trump and Giuliani together were running this pressure campaign on Ukraine to try and get information about the Bidens.

Now, we do know that Giuliani was just over in Ukraine. President Trump spoke about that visit a couple days ago saying that Giuliani had a lot of a new information that he wanted to share with Congress, he wanted to share with President Trump's allies. So it's possible that trip was one of the things that came up during this visit yesterday.

But again Giuliani showing up here just moments before that vote. That is President Trump essentially saying take me on. I believe this is a hoax and I just don't care what you guys think.

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PAUL: All righty. Kristen Holmes, appreciate the update. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: All right, with us now to discuss all this CNN Political Analyst, Toluse Olorunnipa and White House Reporter for "The Washington Post," I should add. And CNN Legal Analyst, Paul Callan, former New York City Prosecutor.

Gentlemen, welcome back and good morning to you.

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Good morning.

TOLUSE OLORUNNIPA, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning.

BLACKWELL: All right, Toluse, let's start here. Rudy Giuliani, this Wall Street Journal reporting. So the president called as he landed back in the U.S. after this trip to Ukraine and asked what did he get. And he told according to their reporting, their source, the president, more than you can imagine. He's compiling now 20 page report.

Where does this go? Does it go to Trump Twitter, does it go to DOJ and Bill Barr, Fox News, or does it end up on the Senate floor in this trial? OLORUNNIPA: Well, it seems like President Trump is really the only

person who wants to hear from Rudy Giuliani. Even Republicans in the Senate, members of the Justice Department have been keeping him at arm's length because he has been livewire in this entire process.

He's part of the reason President Trump is being impeached right now because he pursued this scheme to try to dig up dirt on the Bidens, try to pressure the Ukrainians to investigate the Bidens. He's been hinting at this bombshell that he's had for several months now and we haven't actually seen any evidence.

And some of the people that he's dealing with in Ukraine are known widely as corrupt individuals. A couple of them have already been indicted by the very Justice Department that Giuliani wants to present this evidence to.

So it's not clear that anyone even within the Republican circles wants to hear what Rudy Giuliani has to say, but because President Trump is keeping them so close, bringing him to the White House and trying to force his evidence or his proposed evidence on the Senate Republicans, it does appear that President Trump is going to try to get Rudy Giuliani and whatever he's saying to be part of this Senate impeachment trial, but it's not clear that anyone in the Senate Republican or Democrat want to bring Rudy Giuliani into the process.

BLACKWELL: Well, Paul, consider this. We've heard in recent weeks Senator Graham, Senator Kennedy, Senator Cruz as well add some suspicion to potentially or expressed some suspicion over Ukraines as they call it influence or meddling in the 2016 election. Is it a foregone conclusion that we will not hear the results or the episode of Giuliani's mysteries in this Senate trial?

CALLAN: Well the president's re-endorsement of Giuliani suggest that we may very well hear some things that Giuliani claims to have discovered on his recent trips over to Ukraine.

This of course has always been a central part of the president's defense that anything that was done with respect to Ukraine one had a legitimate foreign policy reason. And two, investigating their involvement, Ukrainian involvement in tampering with the American election was always going to be a relevant investigation. But obviously it was the Russian investigation that occurred, so that was proper. So why not a Ukrainian investigation?

So I think we'll hear more from Giuliani. And it's actually a very striking and public endorsement of Giuliani that the president continues to meet with him. A lot of people thought the president might distance himself from Giuliani because some of Giuliani's statements have been pretty wild and pretty outrageous, but I think Giuliani's going to play a prominent role in the impeachment.

BLACKWELL: Toluse, last hour we spoke about some of the House moderates who were uneasy about potentially voting for articles of impeachment. Let's flip it and talk this hour about some of the progressives, the activists in the party who -- I mean there's a piece of the Atlantic this weekend who were dissatisfied with the narrow scope of these two articles in impeachment.

Is there a significant fear or concern about those dissatisfied progressive activists, and is there potential pushback, consequence, for the narrow scope?

OLORUNNIPA: There is some concern within the Democratic caucus that trying to bring together the liberal progressive wings and the more moderate wings of the party around this divisive issue of impeachment will be very difficult in part because you have the progressives who say that President Trump should have been impeached a long time ago including several of the presidential candidates who are saying that the Mueller report was plenty of evidence to impeach President Trump on and the fact that nothing from the Mueller report, nothing about emoluments, nothing about hush money payments has made its way into these impeachment articles. That is a source of angst for many Democrats.

I think several Democratic progressive are very happy that at least we are finally impeaching the president. I think they've been wishing for this for a while and I think there's less concern that they will voice their displeasure. Then some of the moderates will ultimately vote against these articles of impeachment.

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You've already heard from a couple of Democrats, and there could be a handful or more that end up voting against the articles of impeachment. And that's something that Democrats are a little bit more worried about, that they may lose some people on their right or moderate flank.

BLACKWELL: Paul, let's turn to the Supreme Court and the fight over taxes. The Supreme Court said yesterday that they will take up -- actually take fights. These subpoenas in three separate cases to get to the president's financial records.

Before we get into the political implications, detail for us. Just drive home the significance of the acceptance of this case and what it means for this court.

CALLAN: Well, it's very important that the Supreme Court did accept the case. In a way it helps the president because the court won't get to this case until -- they'll probably start looking at it maybe in March. They may not issue a decision until June.

So, until then tax records of the president will not be released because this is stay on all proceedings. So that's a victory for the Trump administration.

Now, over the long run, the court in accepting the case is going to decide a very important thing and that is whether the financial records of a president, the tax records in particular can be legitimately subpoenaed, one in a criminal proceeding because there's a criminal subpoena in New York that's been issued. And two, by Congressional Oversight Committees for assistance in helping to draft legislation which is Congress' position. They're looking at whether new legislation may be needed to deal with

a president that has an enormous array of business dealings which you know, we haven't really confronted in the past in the United States. So there are a lot of important principles here.

And the other thing I wanted to add that we really haven't touched on too is the wildcard in these impeachment proceedings is John Roberts, Chief Justice of the United States. What role is he going to play?

Remember, he's going to be ruling on the admissibility of evidence. He can rule on whether it's appropriate or totally irrelevant to call certain witnesses. So we've got to see how John Roberts shapes up as a major character in the impeachment proceedings as well.

BLACKWELL: He will certainly be watched very closely, Paul Callan, Toluse Olorunnipa. Thank you both.

OLORUNNIPA: Thank you.

CALLAN: Thank you, Victor.

PAUL: Well, breaking overnight, North Korea has claimed for the second time in a week here that it's conducted a, quote, crucial test at a missile site.

BLACKWELL: So state-run media says the launch happened Friday at a facility northwest of Pyongyang, but North Korea will not say exactly what it tested, not even specifically if it was a launch.

PAUL: CNN's Correspondent, Paula Hancocks' live from Seoul, South Korea for us now.

So we know North Korea, Paula, claims this test was part of what it calls a nuclear deterrence system. What are you hearing from where you are?

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi, we've heard from the South Korea Ministry of Defense and they have said that they're working with the intelligence services in the U.S. very closely but they don't have anything specific that they can confirm at this point, so they're obviously analyzing the information as well to try and figure out what it was exactly that North Korea has tested.

Now we do know, as you say they have said it is crucial. They have said it was very successful and part of a nuclear deterrent.

And the very fact that is the second test at the same site within one week is significant. This is the Sohae Satellite Launching Ground; it's a missile launching site. And it's the one that the U.S. President Donald Trump had said that Kim Jong-un back in Singapore when they met had promised him that he would shut down. There was satellite imagery proving that he was dismantling this area. But then earlier this year there was also satellite imagery proving that it was being rebuilt once again.

So it just shows once again just how the relationship between the U.S. and North Korea is deteriorating. We're seeing more rhetoric as well between the two leaders. The words dotard and rocket man have resurfaced once again showing that things are not going well.

And this comes as well just a day before Stephen Biegun, the U.S. Special Representative for North Korea arrives here in Seoul. He's going to be meeting with South Korean officials. It was being billed among some as a potential last-ditch effort to try and put these North Korean-U.S. discussions back on track.

But of course, with North Korea carrying out this test just before he arrives here, it shows that North Korea's focusing on the Christmas gift, it is promised the United States that the year-end deadline it is given Washington and the new path that it is threatening to take.

So once again we are back to speculation here trying to figure out exactly what North Korea is going to test next. And of course, what this Christmas gift could possibly be.

PAUL: All right, Paula Hancocks, appreciate it so much. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Consider this if you have those in-home security cameras. A family in Tennessee is claiming that hackers accessed their cameras and watched their daughter in her bedroom.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who is that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm your best friend. I'm Santa Claus.

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PAUL: Also, there's new information out of New Zealand this morning following the eruption of a volcano on White Island. We'll tell you what's happening now.

BLACKWELL: And it's the game where pageantry and history meets on the football field. Here's Coy Wire.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Welcome to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Home of Independence Hall where Thomas Jefferson's first signed the declaration of independence in 1776. This city is also home to one of our nation's greatest sporting events. The Army Navy game, America's game.

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PAUL: Eighteen minutes past the hour. Glad to have you with us this morning. I want to tell you about another person who's died after being injured during the eruption of New Zealand's White Island volcano. This volcano erupted Monday. Dozens of people were visiting the very popular tourist spot. Police say the official death toll is now 15. They also say the remains of another person are still missing at sea.

Officials have released the name of a 21-year-old victim from Australia, Krystal Eve Browitt. And there's a picture. There is a GoFundMe page that says she, her sister and father were on the island. Her mother stayed on board the cruise ship at the time. Krystal's sister and father apparently are reportedly both comatose and being treated in hospital burn units now.

BLACKWELL: New Orleans is under a state of emergency this morning. The city was hit by a cyber attack. A phishing attempts and suspicious activity were detected on the city's network yesterday. The city says servers and computers were powered down as a precaution. Mayor LaToya Cantrell says no ransom has been demanded in the attack and she does not believe the city's information has been compromised.

PAUL: YouTube channels posing as U.S. news outlets have racked up millions of views on false and blatant misinformation over several months this year already.

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PAUL: The accounts exploded a YouTube feature that automatically creates channels on certain topics. YouTube has -- they shut down many of the accounts now. It raises questions though obviously about the company's preparedness for tackling this information on its platform. Weeks here before the Iowa caucuses. CNN Politics and Technology Reporter Donie O'Sullivan with us now.

More on this story. Donie, good to have you with us. What do we know about the vulnerability even as we head into 2020 here?

DONIE O'SULLIVAN, CNN REPORTER: That's right. YouTube is telling us yesterday that these accounts are not linked to Russia, Iran or to government, nation state actor, anything like that, that these accounts were simply run actually from South East Asia by scammers and spammers who are trying to make money from those sort of pre roll ads that you see on YouTube. But if you think about this, the effect that this has, it's the same, right?

These misinformation, false thumbnails and false inflammatory images going viral being seen at least 10 million times in the platform. The information was brought to us -- brought to CNN by a company called Plasticity. It's a San Francisco-based startup who also briefed YouTube and they took down some of these channels as a result of that research. But again, as you said, Christi, it raises sort of a lot of questions about how prepared these platforms like YouTube are with just a few weeks ago to Iowa.

PAUL: Yes. Very good point. I want to focus too on another story we're following today, another security system, the home security system that was hacked for family. This next video we're going to show here first of all, is one of the latest. A Florida couple who claims a hacker access to home security camera and made comments that were racist about their biracial family and it makes them wonder, you know, how long this person may have been watching them but, what, take a look at this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait, wait, so does your child come out black or like -- kind of like a light skin? I don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing. Wait. Does your child look like an Oreo?

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PAUL: So, the couple was -- I just want people to really envision this, you're in your home, you're cooking dinner and all of a sudden some voice comes up in your home and is talking to you and telling you things that you had been doing and talking about family members who are not currently there which makes you wonder how long it's happened.

Also want to show you what happened in Mississippi. This family's saying hacker access to their security camera and harass their eight year old daughter. Look at it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who is that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm your best friend. I'm Santa Claus.

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PAUL: OK. So then the girl screams for her mother there because again, she's in her bedroom. All of a sudden, this person comes up and starts talking to her out of nowhere. People are sitting at home going, how do I make sure this doesn't happen to me? To that, you say what?

O'SULLIVAN: Yes, Christi. I mean, this sort of sad thing about this is the hackers probably weren't even all that sophisticated. So, many of us use the same passwords for many years across all sorts of different accounts, our e-mail, maybe our ring login, social media logins, but a lot of people don't realize is, you know, going back over the past few years, past decade, even MySpace was hacked, Yahoo was hacked, LinkedIn was hacked.

If you have an account on one of those networks, and are you, you know, it's possible that your password from those services are up on just the open web and anybody can access them. So if you are then using that password for your ring, that's how a hacker could potentially get in and see what you're doing at your home and speak directly like a voice of God coming into your home.

So how do you protect yourself against this? Well, you should change your password frequently. It should not be, you know, something that somebody can easily guess, like the name of your past. And also, you know, you think about those sort of security questions. You know, if you get locked out of your accounts, oftentimes they'll say, oh, what was the name of your first girlfriend or what was the name of your favorite past?

And, you know, you think now about social media, a lot of us post photos of our family, post photos of our dogs.

PAUL: Of our pets and our names. Yes.

O'SULLIVAN: Yes, exactly. So if, you know if your dog is named Bailey, don't make that your backup security question. Also, in this case, there's the course two factor authentication where, you know, you can get a code texted your phone, ring is basically suggesting I think that's, you know, a lot of these people didn't have two factor authentication set up. But really, I actually think the company should start just making that a mandatory part of logging into a system like this.

You know, I think people before might not have cared so much of saying, oh, you know, if somebody gets into my e-mail, they get into my email. But this really shows how technology I guess is combining and being part of our you know, real lives. I mean this is now if somebody has your password, they're not just getting into your e-mail account, they are getting into your home and being able to watch what you're doing.

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PAUL: Yes. To watch what you're doing, no doubt and maybe to try to configure how to get into your home when you're not there. Donie O'Sullivan, thank you so much for the input. Appreciate it. Listen. We're getting some new information about the attack on a kosher supermarket New Jersey. Officials now saying flat out. This was a hate crime, an act of terrorism.

BLACKWELL: First, we'll talk about hate crimes in America with Professor Frederick Lawrence. He's a distinguished lecturer at Georgetown Law and author of Punishing Hate: Bias Crimes Under American Law. That's next.

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PAUL: There are new details I want to share with you this morning in the investigation into the kosher supermarket shooting in Jersey City. Officials now say it's being investigated as an act of terrorism. With "A hate crime by a slant."

BLACKWELL: CNN's Alexandra Field has more for us.

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ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Surveillance video shows the chilling moments when the attack started. You can see the two shooters approaching the kosher market in Jersey City, they then open fire. They've been identified as Francine Graham and David Anderson. Authorities say they are now looking for a white van that belonged to Anderson as part of the investigation.

Authorities say the investigation could take weeks or months. They have now recovered five firearms that belonged to the shooting suspects left at the scene of the crime.

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They say the suspects also had an improvised explosive device, a viable pipe bomb, in the car, they use to get to the market. Hundreds of shell casings were also recovered at the scene.

Now, authorities are saying that this attack could have been far worse. They credit two police officers who heard the gunfire, ran to the market, and were able to keep the suspects from getting back out onto the streets. Listen to this.

STEVEN FULOP, MAYOR OF JERSEY CITY, NEW JERSEY: They had intentions of doing more than murdering three people. And that was not a secret location that is a known location really where the Jewish community congregated. So, it was no question a hate crime and no question rooted in anti-Semitism. I think more and more information will prove out that point. And I'm happy we're calling it for what it is.

FIELD: State and federal authorities say they are now investigating this as a domestic terror incident with a hate crime bent. They say the suspects demonstrated anti-Semitic and anti-law enforcement beliefs.

Along with the three people that they killed inside that kosher market, the shooters also killed a 15-year veteran of a Jersey City Police Department. His body was found about a mile away from that market, he was a father of five. Detective Joseph Seals will be laid to rest in Jersey City on Tuesday.

In New York, Alexandra Field, CNN.

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PAUL: And we had Mr. Frederick Lawrence, with us now. He is a distinguished lecturer at Georgetown Law, former president of Brandeis University, and author of "Punishing Hate: Bias Crimes Under American Law."

Good morning to you, sir. Thank you for being with us.

FREDERICK LAWRENCE, LECTURER, GEORGETOWN LAW CENTER: Hi, Christi. Good to be with you.

PAUL: Thank you. When you first heard about this and started reading about this incident there in Jersey City, what stood out to you as evidence of a hate crime?

LAWRENCE: Well, the fact that they traveled quite a distance to commit this crime, that they picked this particular location which is known to be a congregating place for the Jersey City Jewish community.

Now, the fact that it's a kosher market next to a synagogue, next to a school, all of these are powerful pieces of evidence of motivation.

People worried about how do you prove racial motivation and sometimes it's hard, I regret to say sometimes it's actually not hard at all, and this case looks like a very powerful case for a race -- religiously motivated hate crime.

PAUL: I know that, you know, social media sites are pretty a fertile ground for some of these hate groups to grow and to proceed here. We know that there are threads on Facebook, on YouTube, on Reddit. Is there any legal navigation to break down these groups without infringing on, you know, some might say some of it is First Amendment right? How -- where is the breakdown there?

LAWRENCE: Right. Well, look, the answer is people can express hateful views, but they can't act on those hateful views. So, how do you -- how do you address it when it's happening?

The answer is that words have consequences, not just hateful words, but also helpful words. And those have to come from all sources. I think if you listen to what, for example, the Jersey City mayor has said about this crime, that's the kind of talk that is extremely helpful that he says it's important that we label this as a hate crime, and he's right.

And I think, making that message loud and clear that you influence people who would otherwise potentially be drawn to this kind of behavior.

PAUL: That could be -- that could be dangerous.

LAWRENCE: Absolutely.

PAUL: Is there a rise in hate crimes as we see it or are we just getting better at identifying?

LAWRENCE: That -- that's a great question. And I think the answer is that we've gotten better to identifying over the past decades. So, what appears to be happening over the past couple of years is, in fact, a rise in hate-motivated behavior which is extremely disturbing.

I have to tell you when I first wrote Punishing Hate, I dearly hope that by this point, these issues would be well behind us, and we beyond to other things that we were talking about it's a society.

I would never have dreamed that we would still be dealing with this. But if we are, then it is terribly important that we call these crimes what they are. Now, these crimes don't just have an impact on the individual victims.

You've got Jewish Americans all over the country who feel victimized by this. It's not just a sense of sort of sympathy that they feel, you know, bad for the people for whom this happened. They actually feel victimized themselves. This is the classic pattern of a hate crime.

And with there's an Amy Baptist Church that is vandalized someplace. It's not just the people at that church, it's African Americans all over the country who feel victimized.

PAUL: Real quickly, Mayor Bill de Blasio, says that a new NYPD unit is going to investigate extremists online hate crimes. How impactful do you think that could be a good start?

LAWRENCE: It could be if you -- if you assign people to actually be focused on that, then they will pay more attention, and I also think it has a salutary effect for people who might otherwise be drawn to this to know that the police are paying attention.

Again, you don't want to restrict speech, you don't want to respect expression, but people have to know that when they -- when they operationalize those beliefs in a criminal way, that those will not only be punished, but punished at a higher level, because they exact a deeper harm on the individuals, on the target community, and really on the entire society.

PAUL: Frederick Lawrence, a very thoughtful -- please, very thoughtful mindset there. I thank you so much for the conversation. Good to have you.

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LAWRENCE: Thank you, good being with you.

BLACKWELL: So, the battle over who gets a ballot in 2020 could have drastic consequences in next year's presidential election.

Coming up, why nearly a quarter-million voters may soon be removed from the roles.

PAUL: And after leading protests and rallies around the world, making Time magazine's cover, getting hit by criticism from President Trump, climate change activists Greta Thunberg, says she needs a break. What's plans for the future? Coming up.

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BLACKWELL: Well, after months of protests and trekking around the world, 16-year-old climate change activists Greta Thunberg, says she needs a break.

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GRETA THUNBERG, STUDENT AND CLIMATE ACTIVIST: You need to take breaks, otherwise you cannot -- I mean you cannot do this all the time, you have to rest as well. I don't know how long I will rest, but not for too long.

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BLACKWELL: Well, she was named Time's Person of the Year this week for her work, raising awareness about the climate crisis. And joining me now is Justin Worland, a Time magazine environment writer, and co- author of the piece on Greta.

Justin, welcome to the show.

JUSTIN WORLAND, ENVIRONMENTAL WRITER, TIME: Thanks for having me.

BLACKWELL: Let's start here with a simple question, why Greta for Person of the Year?

WORLAND: I think there are two really, really obvious reasons. One, I mean, she's changed the discussion around climate change. A year ago, or I should say in August of 2018, she was one person striking. And in September, she brought 7 million people around with her. And that's really reinvigorated the conversation for climate activists, in many ways, and also changed a lot of the politics surrounding climate change.

That was one obvious reason and the other reason is just, there's been a whole slew of different youth movements that have popped up this year and in recent years. And she's sort of the best representative of all of those different movements. I mean, she doesn't formally represent them, of course, but she is a sign of the young people really standing up and saying it's time to do something different.

BLACKWELL: Well, and speaking of standing up, and she spoke to leaders at COP25, just ended yesterday, this a U.N. climate change meeting in Madrid. And she says that the strikes which as you mentioned started -- the major strike was last September. It's achieved nothing, she said, because greenhouse gases have continued to rise.

She also said there that, that she needs a break. Is she starting to show a degree of frustration with how slowly some of these moves?

WORLAND: Well, the truth is, she's been frustrated the whole time. I mean, that's sort of her -- that's her -- that's how she expresses things. And you know, she told us when I talked to her before she left, you know, some things are changing, but basically, nothing is changing, so long as we continue to keep emitting and emitting carbon dioxide.

So, you know, I think that, that line is really part of her bigger message that's been pretty consistent. I mean, I'm sure for her, it is really frustrating that you know, you can bring 7 million people to the streets, but a lot of people really aren't listening.

BLACKWELL: Yes. All right, Justin Worland, thank you so much for being with us. It's a great piece there in Time magazine. Good to have you this morning.

WORLAND: Thanks for having me. Yes.

PAUL: All righty, Army-Navy day. One afternoon what brotherhood takes backseat to Reagan right.

BLACKWELL: Coy Wire is in Philadelphia. Hey, Coy.

WIRE: Hey, good morning to you. Coming up, we're going to talk about some of the things that make this rivalry so special like the special uniforms they unveil -- each one tells a story. Army-Navy game covers live from Philly. Coming up after the break. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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BLACKWELL: The 120th Army-Navy game, it is today. Brotherhood and service beat in a good old fashioned rival.

PAUL: Yes, Coy Wire is in Philadelphia. And Coy, I know the U.S., anyone who serves in either these branches and this is the one game they point to every year say you got to win. Yes?

WIRE: Yes, no doubt about it. More than anything. This is their Super Bowl, it's bragging rights for a lifetime.

Good morning to you, Christi and Victor. And this game is so special, it's the only major college football game that's played today. President Donald Trump will be here for a second straight here.

It's also one of the greatest rivalries of all time, and so special that each team unveils new uniforms. Each one tell a special story. Here is what some of the players had to say about them.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The uniforms are sweet, you know, it's something we all get energized by.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is one game a year we're able to, you know, twist it up a little bit. It's pretty fun for the players.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Being able to go out there and then something that just looks, you know, sweet like Nike designed it. You know, Phil Knight has got the signature on the inside.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You look good, you play good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we take a lot of pride in knowing that our uniforms are better than theirs and it's a pretty fun game before the game.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not only do they look sick, but there's a lot of history that's behind them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's war gear, it's not -- it may look pretty, but the game's not meant to be pretty.

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WIRE: Now, as I said, each uniform telling a story, armies this year represents the first cavalry division from back during the Vietnam War. Navy's uniforms represent their 60s era when they had two Heisman Trophy winners including Roger Staubach, Joe Bellino, and now each Navy jersey also pays tribute to someone who has served in our U.S. Navy with a patch.

This patch that I have here represents Caleb King, a former Navy linebacker who was one of two naval aviators who was killed when his aircraft crashed. You know, so this is what this game is all about, more than just football. It's this one Saturday afternoon at 3:00 p.m. We all get to watch the cheer on and support those who have committed themselves to a life of service and to all of us.

So, that's just one of the many things that makes the Army-Navy game so special.

PAUL: So, well put. Yes, good luck to everybody for the game. But thank you, first and foremost, for your service. To you and your families because we know when they are serving their families in their own sense of serving as well without them.

Thank you so much, Coy. Really appreciate it.

BLACKWELL: Thanks, Coy.

WIRE: You're welcome.

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BLACKWELL: All right, so the men accused of slapping a reporter's backside while she was live on air, he is now facing charges. We've got an update on that case, next.

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PAUL: Well, Wisconsin court decision with big 2020 implications this week. A judge ordered the State of Wisconsin to purge 234,000 names from its voter rolls.

BLACKWELL: Now, the purge targets voters who fail to respond to a recent mailing part of the state's routine effort to update his roles. A conservative group sued to enforce the law which requires the state to remove voters if they don't respond within 30 days.

This could be a very big deal. Here is why. In 2016, President Trump won Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes by fewer than 23,000 votes.

PAUL: Well, the man accused of slapping a reporter on the backside as she reported live at an event in Savannah, Georgia has been arrested and charged with sexual battery now.

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BLACKWELL: Alex Bozarjian -- Jian, rather, of CNN affiliate WSAV told police that the runner identified as Thomas Callaway, smacked and grab her buttocks last week.

Now, you can see that happened here, we've highlighted the band. It's stunned her, as you'd imagine, made a pause, but she finished the report.

WSAV, says Callaway turned himself in yesterday, was released on bond. He's not commented on the charges, but Callaway apologized earlier this week to the reporter. PAUL: Stuck by the rescue in Iowa, Council Bluffs firefighters saved a duck that was stuck on ice. Take a look at this. Yes, we have video. It was stuck in the middle of a frozen lake so the firefighter said it was a good opportunity for them to train.

BLACKWELL: After crews rescued the duck, they took it to Midlands Humane Society for treatment. It appeared to have an injured wing. The Humane Society will look after the duck until they find it a new home.

PAUL: I'm glad had it's all better. Hope everybody in Wisconsin is OK to with the just nasty weather that everybody seen the last few days. Next hour of your NEW DAY starts after a quick break.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ms. Jackson Lee.

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JAYAPAL: Aye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Gohmert.

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